@backfire after watching many of your videos and doing some research I have decided since I need a new hunting rifle to get the CVA Cascade XT 7 PRC 24" 1:8 twist it weighs 7.25 lbs do you feel this would be good enough for someone with neck and shoulders issues for recoil management?
@@shortkid8599 yeah exactly. The 277 fury has less case capacity and getting those velocities out of a short barrel. Not sure why Jim is downplaying the fury
@@foubert45 i believe he got his 3120 number from MDT's blog post claiming SIg listed the 150gr bullet's velocity out of a 16 inch barrel at 2833fps, then the author said the velocity out of a 24 inch barrel would be 3120fps. I personally have no idea how accurate that is.
277fury is designed for short barrel use. That’s why the pressure is so high, so the army can accelerate that bullet to full rifle speed with just 13inches of barrel.
277 fury from a 14.5 inch barrel (ie the barrel designed for the NGSW/XM7/Spear) is identical in velocity to 270 Win from a 24 inch barrel. So if you prefer a shorter barrel in a AR type platform for your hunting rifle, then I guess 277 fury might be your huckleberry. But if you’re good with a few more inches of barrel length, then there’s no reason to get 277 fury over regular vanilla 270 Win.
So you may be overlooking one of the main attributes in the 277 fury that we're all looking for. It was touted to shoot the 3100 ft per second with 150 grain projectile with an 18-in barrel. This would be a game changer
8.5 lbs for a Magnum cartridge is fine weight for the rifle. My 300 WSM in the Savage M110 Long Range Hunter and really is well balanced and doesn’t recoil much especially with a muzzle brake. Cut weight elsewhere like Brady Miller does and have the best most accurate and consistent weapon that you can get. The App looks legit and would be welcome on any range including one who is doing load testing.
The box listed velocity for the venari is a 130gr going 2700 fps, the fmj is a 135 going 3000. I think that spread is insane for essentially the same weight projectile. The lower velocity is likely standard pressure, but that makes reloading days very difficult if you have two pressures or if the fmj is too high of a pressure for a gun, perhaps something rebarreled.
The 277 Sig Fury aka 6.8 x 51 leaves me curious, will it become widely available being a military cartridge or will it become the 223 vs 5.56 x 45? you can shoot this one in that one, but not that one in this one, don't need a clone of a complex question. Then what about reloading the bi-metal cases, will that be acceptable or taboo, what about pressures? I think most bolt actions made for the current crop of fire breathers are capable of handling the increased pressure provided the bi-metal case is used, but straight brass is another story. The cartridge is intriguing, but is the juice going to be worth the squeeze? Being a 270 Fanboy, I shoot a Ruger No.1, 26" barrel and get 3200 fps with a 130 grain bullet, I am intimately familiar with the caliber and what it can do.
Hope the new Sig 365 has a better trigger than the one I own. I've spent close to $600 on upgrades on the pistol to make not only the trigger better but the overall function of the pistol. Though there is not an improvement overall the trigger is still far from what I would consider crisp and without a bunch of creep. I have too much money in it to sell it, or I would.
I'm more interested in the all brass fury. Its basically just a modernized 7mm-08. I'm hoping that with military adoption it will become a cheaper and more available replacement to it's older brother
I was in the middle of watching the video posted near midnight on 7-13 and it said that the video was taken down by the uploader. Maybe more information became available and he wanted to make a revised video that was more accurate.
BUT….will the on shelf ammo actually be running the same chamber pressures as the military version? Will it be like 10mil now days and watered down for most boxes you buy? If it’s not running that 80k psi pressure then it’s pointless and nothing special over 270win even at all
@@Basin.hunter nice to have but that’s gonna stagnate the market on this round for a long time. 80$/box is high, especially with the economy the way it is right now
@@gavincline209 yeah it’s definitely not good pricing but they are trying to pay for the extra tooling and stuff with the two part case. Like I understand it but I’m not gonna pay that much when 6.8 western is $20 cheaper
@@Basin.hunteroh I definitely get the price increase. But that’s just what’s also gonna hold this cartridge back in the civilian side for a long time. The question is, can it survive that length of time and still hold on, or get kinda shunned away from mainstream like the 5.56??
Im not sure how i feel about that info. I bought the cross magnum chambered in 300 win mag, and about 1 week after i got it, they dropped the sawtooth with that barrel. Both the same price
Just two days ago at one of our local gun shop I saw a Sig Cross 300WM, not with proof research, and they had it priced at, ready, $2,495! But, then again they are well known for being over priced. But, I was comparing the weight to my RPR 338LM and it felt so much lighter. I don't know Jim, you are recommending it. Maybe I should put it on my list.
I was impressed with your review of the Beretta BRX1.. When our 13 year olds were born we had the same idea my son's name is also Ruger and he is left handed.. Was wondering if you are going to make a recoil pad for that rifle?
Sad the military is investing in a cartridge for basically throw away rifles with the extreme pressures. Just a thought is invest the money in accuracy training for those shooting the rifles. A properly trained soldier does not need a 50rd magazine with a sub par rifle spitting magma.
Bro a m249 comes with 200 round belts “but a properly trained soldier doesn’t need that many rounds”. You are a fool if you think having more ammo is a sign of soldier inadequacy. The 6.8x51 was made to win more fights, you are not smarter than the engineers at sig or the ngsw officials who care more about winning fights than the cost
It's my understanding that the 277 Sig was developed for the military to replace both the 5.56 and the 308 and still be utilized in an AR platform with a 16'-18' barrel. It clearly does that. For hunting applications it really doesn't offer much over what is available now unless you desire the latest most technologically advanced AR system. Probably great for hogs but you have so many choices for that endeavor.
Sir, love your videos, appreciate your views...especially as a fellow Utahn. Two questions: 1. Why don't you provide more data/thoughts on sectional density? It doesn't even appear in your spreadsheet. Seems like very important information to hunters. Would be very interesting to see how 277 Fury compares in available loads. 2. Would you consider commenting on why more gun and stock manufacturers don't provide tool-less lop adjustments like that Sake 90 you have? As a grandfather who shares my guns with children and grandchildren of both genders, this seems an extremely beneficial option.
The Sig Cross at 8.5 lbs is probably a very good platform for the 7 and 300 PRC's. Im sure it provides the stability desired for these extended range heavy hitting cartridges. As for me I think its just too much all around to be considered a go to every day "backcountry" rifle for hunting. I still feel that most game is taken within 500 yds (its called hunting) and normal traditional cartriges and rifles provide a more sensible option. Tell me a 6.6 lb Tikka T3x in 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win with 3 in a mag isnt enough. Heck even 30/06 and 270 will work just fine. Wringing out the most on the target courses is a different story. As for the 277 Fury. Extreme pressure means diminished service life. Most of the rounds for sale in 277 Fury aren't even the high pressure rounds, they're loaded to normal pressures and need normal barrel lengths to acheive normal velocities. So I guess Sig basically reinvented the 284 Win.
Hi Jim, unrelated to the video but would you consider doing a review / comparison of soft rifle cases for scoped bolt action rifles. I’ve got plenty of tactical bags and hard cases but am having a hard time finding a simple soft case that is half decent. Thanks!
Looked into the app & most of the reviews are complaining about a montly fee to use & trying to sell you extra stuff. Why does everything have to be a subscription now? Great idea, but just charge $5 once off & leave it at that.
Have you ever had a problem with a SIG product? Have you talked to their customer support? It's beyond awful. It's worse than rude. I don't treat people that cut me off in traffic the way they treat their customers. I have lots of SIG stuff but no more.
Well they must not like you at all then. I have tons of sig products and have had to use their custom services a few times and they have been top notch and have fix or settled any issues I had promptly and to my satisfaction every time. They have been super nice and have had stuff fixed and returned faster than I thought possible. Maybe it's you
Used them multiple times for broken sights , parts purchase, custom work, service packages and simple questions. Never a problem. Always courteous and helpful!
@CDinNC they've been great to me. They couldn't have been nicer, faster and more respectful if they tried. I have a lot of sig products and they have fixed or resolved any problems I've had.
What’s the civilian version of the .277 Fury? Is it the 6.8x51 which doesn’t have the hybrid case or how can we get our hands on it? Not interested in melting a 13 inch barrel after 2k rounds
6.8x51 with the hybrid case is the military version .277 fury is the civilian version. I’m not sure .277 fury even comes in a hybrid case. Which essentially makes it a .308 necked down to .277
@@msquared9605 You can get the .277 fury in the hybrid case or in the brass case for cheaper ammo. Also they are testing super hard coatings that you would put on machining tools in the barrel over the rifling to increase barrel life
9:54.... your numbers are wrong. Its showing the drop for the .277 at 400 yards being more than the .270 win but the .227 fury is faster at the muzzle by (as you mentioned) almost 200fps and then the 600 yard drop flip flops. There is no way that both those numbers are correct unless its defying this laws of physics
At 3m50 you briefly show what appears to be an MDT chassis with what looks like maybe a removable rear stock button?? (button just up-left of the MDT logo on the grip) What chassis is that? It looks quite intriguing...
Do they make an over the shoulder sling for the sig cross because I have an across the body sling and it is hard because I have a bino bag and with all my hunting gear?
Do not really see the need for the277fury. To me. It's way under powered for what it's supposed to be. Now with that cartridge could push3400 Feet a second. Now we would be talking about real innovation.
It’s pushing a 135 grain projectile at 3000…out of a 16 inch barrel. That’s insane man. Just think what kind of velocities a hand load with the hybrid case out of a 26” barrel could achieve
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@backfire after watching many of your videos and doing some research I have decided since I need a new hunting rifle to get the CVA Cascade XT 7 PRC 24" 1:8 twist it weighs 7.25 lbs do you feel this would be good enough for someone with neck and shoulders issues for recoil management?
.277 furry was designed to achieve its velocity in short barrels. Hence the need to have a steal-head case for increased pressure.
Came here to say this. Those chrono values are out of a 13 inch barrel. The 6.8 western number in the vid is probably with a 20+ inch barrel
@@shortkid8599 yeah exactly. The 277 fury has less case capacity and getting those velocities out of a short barrel. Not sure why Jim is downplaying the fury
@@foubert45because he hates sig and probably you too.
@@foubert45 i believe he got his 3120 number from MDT's blog post claiming SIg listed the 150gr bullet's velocity out of a 16 inch barrel at 2833fps, then the author said the velocity out of a 24 inch barrel would be 3120fps. I personally have no idea how accurate that is.
Please do a video solely on that software.
Yes! That could be game changing for me. I'm cheap on targets at the range, what can I say?
"The App is not available in your country" I'm in the country sig sauer comes from. Well thanks for nothing.
277fury is designed for short barrel use. That’s why the pressure is so high, so the army can accelerate that bullet to full rifle speed with just 13inches of barrel.
$9.99 a month? No thank you Mr. Cohen.
I was excited to check it out till he said what it cost :/
the big diff in this cartridge is in a SHORT bbl....it will do more than anything else in the short barrels........OnWard........
“8.5 lbs is a chunk for a hunting rifle” lol Jim would throw up if he saw how heavy my 300 PRC is that yes I lug around the back country happily
That software is way cool. I would like a video of you using that on the rifle range!!
that app looking fire tho. we need more of that.
Errata:
At 9:44 you say that .277 Fury is 250fps faster than .270 Win... but the difference is only 150fps (3120fps - 2970fps = 150fps).
277 fury from a 14.5 inch barrel (ie the barrel designed for the NGSW/XM7/Spear) is identical in velocity to 270 Win from a 24 inch barrel.
So if you prefer a shorter barrel in a AR type platform for your hunting rifle, then I guess 277 fury might be your huckleberry. But if you’re good with a few more inches of barrel length, then there’s no reason to get 277 fury over regular vanilla 270 Win.
Yes but XM7 have 13" barrel. So 277 fury is even more impressive.
So you may be overlooking one of the main attributes in the 277 fury that we're all looking for. It was touted to shoot the 3100 ft per second with 150 grain projectile with an 18-in barrel. This would be a game changer
The graph shows that the 277 fury has more drop at 400 yards than every other cartridge but significantly less drop at 600 yards. Is that a typo?
Different zero distance possibly
@@ryankoch3958 look at the energy numbers as well
8.5 lbs for a Magnum cartridge is fine weight for the rifle. My 300 WSM in the Savage M110 Long Range Hunter and really is well balanced and doesn’t recoil much especially with a muzzle brake. Cut weight elsewhere like Brady Miller does and have the best most accurate and consistent weapon that you can get.
The App looks legit and would be welcome on any range including one who is doing load testing.
277 Fury ammo won't be available in common bolt actions anytime soon because of the pressure.
On your comparative chart, what was the barrel lengths. I think the sig fury is designed to have high velocity in really short barrels.
The box listed velocity for the venari is a 130gr going 2700 fps, the fmj is a 135 going 3000. I think that spread is insane for essentially the same weight projectile. The lower velocity is likely standard pressure, but that makes reloading days very difficult if you have two pressures or if the fmj is too high of a pressure for a gun, perhaps something rebarreled.
Great Video. Backfire, when are you going to make a Back Fire Recoil Pad for the Sig Cross?
I agree with this. When?
Just be aware that OHD is currently only available for iOS (APPLE iPhone). SIG SAUER engineers are hard at work on an Android version.
The 277 Sig Fury aka 6.8 x 51 leaves me curious, will it become widely available being a military cartridge or will it become the 223 vs 5.56 x 45? you can shoot this one in that one, but not that one in this one, don't need a clone of a complex question. Then what about reloading the bi-metal cases, will that be acceptable or taboo, what about pressures? I think most bolt actions made for the current crop of fire breathers are capable of handling the increased pressure provided the bi-metal case is used, but straight brass is another story. The cartridge is intriguing, but is the juice going to be worth the squeeze? Being a 270 Fanboy, I shoot a Ruger No.1, 26" barrel and get 3200 fps with a 130 grain bullet, I am intimately familiar with the caliber and what it can do.
Hope the new Sig 365 has a better trigger than the one I own. I've spent close to $600 on upgrades on the pistol to make not only the trigger better but the overall function of the pistol. Though there is not an improvement overall the trigger is still far from what I would consider crisp and without a bunch of creep. I have too much money in it to sell it, or I would.
They took down the new video?
I'm more interested in the all brass fury. Its basically just a modernized 7mm-08. I'm hoping that with military adoption it will become a cheaper and more available replacement to it's older brother
all brass case can't take the huge pressure of the 277 fury
Funny how all those new cartriges are just trying to be 300wm
I was in the middle of watching the video posted near midnight on 7-13 and it said that the video was taken down by the uploader. Maybe more information became available and he wanted to make a revised video that was more accurate.
What was he saying in the video? Just going by the title alone it sounded like it was in bad taste, so maybe people were outraged so he pulled it?
Sounds like it’s Sig Connect’s ODH app
How on earth are they still not producing a 6.5 PRC Cross…?
Do we know who makes that app? Is it Sig?
It is sig indeed!
No more fish stories with the app. This plus the Garmin Xero would put the rest to bed
Yes! The verification aspect is awesome. I will try to challenge my buddies with this if we can't share a range day.
BUT….will the on shelf ammo actually be running the same chamber pressures as the military version? Will it be like 10mil now days and watered down for most boxes you buy? If it’s not running that 80k psi pressure then it’s pointless and nothing special over 270win even at all
They have both the hybrid case in high pressure and normal brass case ammo, the hybrid ammo is full 80ksi but $80 a box
@@Basin.hunter nice to have but that’s gonna stagnate the market on this round for a long time. 80$/box is high, especially with the economy the way it is right now
@@gavincline209 yeah it’s definitely not good pricing but they are trying to pay for the extra tooling and stuff with the two part case. Like I understand it but I’m not gonna pay that much when 6.8 western is $20 cheaper
@@Basin.hunteroh I definitely get the price increase. But that’s just what’s also gonna hold this cartridge back in the civilian side for a long time. The question is, can it survive that length of time and still hold on, or get kinda shunned away from mainstream like the 5.56??
@@gavincline209 I think it’ll get cheaper eventually maybe it’s still really new in every way. But idk if it will or not only time will tell
Im not sure how i feel about that info. I bought the cross magnum chambered in 300 win mag, and about 1 week after i got it, they dropped the sawtooth with that barrel. Both the same price
Can you make a Back Stop for the cross? Not many options, if any at all, to upgrade that flimsy thing
Just two days ago at one of our local gun shop I saw a Sig Cross 300WM, not with proof research, and they had it priced at, ready, $2,495!
But, then again they are well known for being over priced. But, I was comparing the weight to my RPR 338LM and it felt so much lighter. I don't know Jim, you are recommending it. Maybe I should put it on my list.
But on Sigs website the hunting ammo is only 130gr at 2710….. that’s pretty mild and well short of a 130gr 270
I was impressed with your review of the Beretta BRX1..
When our 13 year olds were born we had the same idea my son's name is also Ruger and he is left handed.. Was wondering if you are going to make a recoil pad for that rifle?
Wasn't the real benefit of .277 Fury same speed at shorter barrel length?
I'll wait until load date for the hybrid cases come out but will be getting a Cross rifle.
Doubt that fury round is around for long
It’s the round that goes in the army’s standard issue rifle. .277 fury is here to stay.
@@shortkid8599I don’t think it’ll stick
Is it the round that’s the army’s standard issue rifle? As an aside, I’ve seen ammo on shelves for years now but never a rifle.
Ive really been debating back and forth on this rifle
Sad the military is investing in a cartridge for basically throw away rifles with the extreme pressures. Just a thought is invest the money in accuracy training for those shooting the rifles. A properly trained soldier does not need a 50rd magazine with a sub par rifle spitting magma.
How are they throw away rifles?
Bro a m249 comes with 200 round belts “but a properly trained soldier doesn’t need that many rounds”. You are a fool if you think having more ammo is a sign of soldier inadequacy. The 6.8x51 was made to win more fights, you are not smarter than the engineers at sig or the ngsw officials who care more about winning fights than the cost
It's my understanding that the 277 Sig was developed for the military to replace both the 5.56 and the 308 and still be utilized in an AR platform with a 16'-18' barrel. It clearly does that. For hunting applications it really doesn't offer much over what is available now unless you desire the latest most technologically advanced AR system. Probably great for hogs but you have so many choices for that endeavor.
That sig app looks really good. Reminds me of some of the laser training apps.
need the weatherby 307 alpine ct next!
Please review the sig cross magnum. Switchback outdoors have been loving their's.
That feature is amazing on a app that allows you to carry so much data for all your rifles.
Gee .. How did I walk to the target the target to measure the last 50 years ? Obesity in America 2024
Or maybe it’s because we have to wait for the range to get called cold and it takes half an hour for guys to clear.
Sir, love your videos, appreciate your views...especially as a fellow Utahn. Two questions: 1. Why don't you provide more data/thoughts on sectional density? It doesn't even appear in your spreadsheet. Seems like very important information to hunters. Would be very interesting to see how 277 Fury compares in available loads. 2. Would you consider commenting on why more gun and stock manufacturers don't provide tool-less lop adjustments like that Sake 90 you have? As a grandfather who shares my guns with children and grandchildren of both genders, this seems an extremely beneficial option.
I would love 277 fury, but hopefully in some affordable rifles
I might take a look if the rifle comes in 300 PRC.
Holy smokes that is best thing I’ve seen in a while the app.
The Sig Cross at 8.5 lbs is probably a very good platform for the 7 and 300 PRC's. Im sure it provides the stability desired for these extended range heavy hitting cartridges. As for me I think its just too much all around to be considered a go to every day "backcountry" rifle for hunting. I still feel that most game is taken within 500 yds (its called hunting) and normal traditional cartriges and rifles provide a more sensible option. Tell me a 6.6 lb Tikka T3x in 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win with 3 in a mag isnt enough. Heck even 30/06 and 270 will work just fine. Wringing out the most on the target courses is a different story. As for the 277 Fury. Extreme pressure means diminished service life. Most of the rounds for sale in 277 Fury aren't even the high pressure rounds, they're loaded to normal pressures and need normal barrel lengths to acheive normal velocities. So I guess Sig basically reinvented the 284 Win.
Jim, please do a review on the cz 600 alpha. love your stuff
I.had cz it sucked
I have a cz 600 American in a 6.5 creedmoor. My tightest group so far is .2 of an inch. Worth every penny
Hi Jim, unrelated to the video but would you consider doing a review / comparison of soft rifle cases for scoped bolt action rifles. I’ve got plenty of tactical bags and hard cases but am having a hard time finding a simple soft case that is half decent. Thanks!
I'm dying for the full review of the sawtooth in 7prc. I have been a sig fan boy since before it was cool and can't wait to see how it preforms.
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Hey love the videos! Any plans to do a review on the weatherby model 307 alpine ct??
Most interested in the Romeo X Enclosed and the 277 Fury/6.8x51 cartridge.
Well, I did come for the rifle, it was in the title after all, but that app is cool for sure.
Hey. Where'd the recent upload go?
I want it in a more compact format. 16” or 14.5/3 with a welded brake. I want 6mm ARC. I’m over the magnums.
Damn another gen3 of sig in under 5 years
Will the Sig Connect app work with rifles using steel targets?
Looked into the app & most of the reviews are complaining about a montly fee to use & trying to sell you extra stuff. Why does everything have to be a subscription now? Great idea, but just charge $5 once off & leave it at that.
@@andrew8212 unfortunately apps cost money to build and support
Nice rifle but does it come in left hand bolt action as well ? The 7mm PRC Hunting rifle
6.5 prc should be an option ?
I actually have one or the sig cross magnum sawtooth in 7mm prc being ordered as soon as they dropped. Was really hoping to get a backstop pad
Wanting a Fix vs Cross video even if there’s a Cross bias.
Can you do a direct comparison between the fierce mnt reaper and the sig cross sawtooth both in 7PRC?
That app is cool but no way I’m paying $120 a year for it.
What is the software called? Is it a paid service or a free app to use to access all the app include
Subscription after a trial. SIG Connect
Have you ever had a problem with a SIG product? Have you talked to their customer support? It's beyond awful. It's worse than rude. I don't treat people that cut me off in traffic the way they treat their customers. I have lots of SIG stuff but no more.
Well they must not like you at all then. I have tons of sig products and have had to use their custom services a few times and they have been top notch and have fix or settled any issues I had promptly and to my satisfaction every time. They have been super nice and have had stuff fixed and returned faster than I thought possible. Maybe it's you
Used them multiple times for broken sights , parts purchase, custom work, service packages and simple questions. Never a problem. Always courteous and helpful!
@CDinNC they've been great to me. They couldn't have been nicer, faster and more respectful if they tried. I have a lot of sig products and they have fixed or resolved any problems I've had.
Yeah you should do an AITA on this one bud. It sounds like maybe you were asking for way too much or you were the one being awful lol.
So, it's a .270 WSM? Looks almost the same ballistically. I see 150gr 270 WSM listed at 3150.
What’s the civilian version of the .277 Fury? Is it the 6.8x51 which doesn’t have the hybrid case or how can we get our hands on it? Not interested in melting a 13 inch barrel after 2k rounds
6.8x51 with the hybrid case is the military version
.277 fury is the civilian version. I’m not sure .277 fury even comes in a hybrid case. Which essentially makes it a .308 necked down to .277
@@msquared9605 You can get the .277 fury in the hybrid case or in the brass case for cheaper ammo. Also they are testing super hard coatings that you would put on machining tools in the barrel over the rifling to increase barrel life
For that price and weight, get a Seekins PH2...
SIG CONNECT is unfortunately not available in Canada 😢
Good stuff
Why did you not compare the Weatherby 270 Mag in your .277 Acubond compare. I realize it is an older cartridge but still active.
9:54.... your numbers are wrong. Its showing the drop for the .277 at 400 yards being more than the .270 win but the .227 fury is faster at the muzzle by (as you mentioned) almost 200fps and then the 600 yard drop flip flops. There is no way that both those numbers are correct unless its defying this laws of physics
Any idea if they plan n releasing this in 300 WM?
I click for the rifle but now I change my mind let keep talking about the app😅
At 3m50 you briefly show what appears to be an MDT chassis with what looks like maybe a removable rear stock button?? (button just up-left of the MDT logo on the grip) What chassis is that? It looks quite intriguing...
Ah, I think I found it, it's the MDT HNT26 by the looks of it. Unfortunately way out of my price league. Wish the MDT Oryx had that feature!
Mr Backfire. Do Scope Cam. Improve channel with scope cam. Sir. Common. Sense. Please
Can't agree more. Then we also get reticle comparisons and other bonus content just from an added POV.
@@skys-the-limit hell yeah 🤘
If you would've come to shootah you could've shot the flux raider 365 early!
What does it do that my 30-06 model 70 doesn’t?
cost a LOT more 😂😂😂
Get out past 400yds much better. .30-06 is my favorite but cmon man, what’s wrong with showing new and other guns and calibers 😂
277 Furry gives you the speed and ballistics from a much shorter barrel..... Barrel length is a huge deal for the military!!!!
Would be awesome if they made a southpaw!!!
Opinion on the begarria mg hunter in 7mm prc?
$10 a month for that app no thanks Sig what a joke
Barrels are too long on the Sawtooth guns.
Do they make an over the shoulder sling for the sig cross because I have an across the body sling and it is hard because I have a bino bag and with all my hunting gear?
Sigs best product wasn’t even mentioned
When is the review bergara mg light in 7 prc coming?!?!
Do not really see the need for the277fury. To me.
It's way under powered for what it's supposed to be. Now with that cartridge could push3400 Feet a second. Now we would be talking about real innovation.
It’s pushing a 135 grain projectile at 3000…out of a 16 inch barrel. That’s insane man. Just think what kind of velocities a hand load with the hybrid case out of a 26” barrel could achieve
My furry with the hybrid case get 3040fps avg out of a 16.5" barrel 150gr facrir6 rounds man there's alot to cover on this
ZZZ…..just what’s needed. Another cartridge to add to the overwhelming ridiculous number already available thus keeping prices high.
What's the group camera range out to will it go 100 yards or above
How was the accuracy on the sig cross
Not going to trust what Sig does with the data from that app….
Do we know the release date of the 7prc rifle