Destiny 2 - IT WAS ALL APART OF THE PLAN! The Awoken Final Shape
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2024
- The Awoken were born from Light and Dark. The way to enter the portal? Light and Dark. Over the past week we’ve learned a lot about how to enter the Pale Heart realm including a sibling bond, the Veil and Quantum Entanglement. Today we discuss these mysteries.
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The Awoken have evolved a ton since their days in the Distributary. Today we discuss their evolution into the Final Shape and the forces at play behind the Traveler and Veil. Paracausal magics, quantum entanglement and more!
Fun fact about quantum entaglement: There are scienstists looking to actually use it to send messages over the globe instead of electricity to send information even faster over longer distances.
Oh also, Uldren and Mara helped us end Destiny 1 by telling us how to get into the Black Garden, and now they'll help us end Destiny 2. Their story really comes full circle.
You mean uldwen right, lol😊
@@joelsheldon6794 uldren
Son of a ...😮
@@joelsheldon6794 he was Uldwyn back before the Distributary, he was Uldren after becoming Awoken, and now he's Crow
Quantum physicist here (Ph.D). Your description of entanglement was very good. The important things to consider about it is 1) Quantum entanglement proves that the universe is non-local, i.e. distance doesnt matter (see Bell's theorem and the ESR Paradox). In addition, when particles are in an entangled state, all possibilities exist until they collapse into a discrete wavefunction that describes their states. This occurs when they are measured, or observed. Before observation, they are essentially an infinite set of possibilities. Today, we already use quantum entanglement in quantum computers and in some encryption schemes. This isn't science fiction folks, its science fact.
I wish(no pun intended) that Mara and Crow would acknowledge Zavala more as an Awoken than just some Guardian Commander in the cutscenes or in the newer stories.
Then again I guess he's contributed the most to the traveler by leading guardians against the dark forces in sol.
Our guardian might've slain almost every major threat, but It Was the commander who got us right in the 1st place.
It’s because reef born awoken and collapse born awoken are completely different.
@@solongspacecowboy4779how so? I thought the awoken all came from the same place
Hey evaze, you and byf are carrying the lore-side of destiny rn. We haven't been getting much lore but y'all are still making it enjoyable ❤
Some day bungie will acknowledge their dedication! ❤
@@MrSpiritualDesire hopefully in game representation
Rick and morty heist level of planning from traveler.
Deep lol
That’s autism
With a little help from some old friends!
texting minors?
Quick 5 min adventure. In and out
I loved how you avoided pronouncing Sloane's ghost name 😂 awesome video!
a Kugelblitz is a lot of heat. So....the queen is on fire?
This looks good keep it up evaze
I wonder if the devs can make special lines for the Guardian-Awoken in that case - like in Forsaken
My Hunter main is the Awoken, so it was quite interesting to hear some special things from Petra, Corsairs, being called "cousin" a lot of times)
Another fantastic piece.
With the length of this season it would be cool to take a look at the different creatures that inhabit the world of Destiny. We know of worms, Leviathans, dragons but what about other things like the giant frog in the concept art.
As a physics undergraduate soon to do my masters, hearing Osiris say sound was a force of nature kinda hurt😅
If only bungie actually had a plan at all
Very interesting video. I appreciate all you do good sir!
SO, Savathun bring Crow to the Tower, make him to remember His past... It was all of this? Her plan? Geez.
Quantum entanglement is about sharing. The small can share energy or connections like chemicals and when bonds or shapes or patterns match in specific ways, something different emerges. Like hydrogen and oxygen making a bunch of different things even though the pieces are simple, when combining or connecting, small differences can make an infinity. We as humans exist similar to how planets exist but different in some ways. Think of how the Big Bang made differences and those differences cascade like a plants branches and separate/transform into other things. Transmutation but the form is local and made on site but expanded in different ways. Similar to how a planet can host so many differences and that can cause things on different scales to emerge like how a rock can be born of a collision and separation but once separated the pieces can be connected to differences. Just like we see galaxies and planets as separate, so are the differences between human and planet. When a human says a word, it’s moving the fabrics of reality, the words cause a difference in the flow of energy through matter. Maybe since the form is locally built, that means all potentials are existent but hidden within kinda like how a tree hides a chair or table within its fabrics. It’s all wild but what if realities are hidden like how we found math? Like humans can take pieces and see differences but it’s not fully connected to the full pieces, we use fractions of reality to simulate differences. Maybe we can see the potentials even when they aren’t fully realized which allows construction of differences or kinda pulling them out of the game. Building the body and mind, understanding would be the key to bringing alternate versions here but death might be the only thing that breaks our current form from the energy and the current goes back to potential but can be seen by the difference so maybe all that is unreal can become real just as babies are born or how we take the tree and find the potential hiding within and bring it out. Comment may be confusing but it’s nutty to think on because quantum mechanics is real and it’s not magic, it’s documentation of how things work on that scale and with those differences. When introduced to an environment not suited the potential can not be realized, similar to how humans don’t have enough knowledge and connections like tools to manufacture quantum structures of a range that can connect to the macro. Like spider silk and the amino acid chain and how we haven’t accumulated and reconstructed enough to understand it and make better constructions. Like how buildings are still bricks and stuff when we could upgrade our homes with technology and safety features. That’s like the body taking in new differences and updating the immune system. Expansion isn’t only in direction but sort of transmutation and growth in differences and connections. It’s simultaneous and error is allowed, that’s why people think the universe is self correcting but it’s like how a math problem is set up to have one answer. A planet works the same, an environment only allows certain answers but those can bring new problems and answers.
Hmm so it’s like being connected like your shadow. With enough light you can cast it to different surfaces and still be connected to it - as you move it moves in the same time. Given that quantum entanglement would be in terms of particles and light years acting as the distances (the ley lines exist in nature and time but have exits - like an spatial interstate) all we would be doing is using Crow as shadow gps. Since Mara can separate things with her power it’s not like she can’t create a bridge with Awoken Magic - look at how we can access the shattered realm. I can be wrong about this.
@@driverslineocsz4418 kinda. But a shadow is in the current. Imagine syncing different realities but not the whole reality but a portion. The link would be the sync between and then the path is open. Like making something early after looking through the potentials. It would be like syncing an alternate reality and bringing it to here. Imagine a prediction and then bringing the prediction here well the backwards is possible but only if we had something known to connect or sync to. It’s like when we think, we are predicting but as we fill the gaps with what we do to make it real ie chopping down the tree and cutting it up and stuff, instead we sync to a place where it’s already been done and then jump there. The problem is that we don’t have an anchor point so we send crow to be our anchor that we can sync to. He’s already connected to the witness so it’s like he’s matched up kinda like a watch or hiding in the witness shadow. It’s like how a thought is a connection to something or a reflection. So imagine parentheses around earth and now that’s 1 well the traveler is something different but can match 1 so the things within that can be created or realized. Imagine potentials growing potentials but the realized is the base like earth and then all the animals and people are potentials. Well it takes potentials that are realized sometimes to pull potentials that are unrealized. The devices used by the neomuni allowed for seeing the differences similar to us with simulations that are fed data from our current. The current can see the difference of past and future but it’s not just past and future but lateral movements as well. Time isn’t just forward and back. Energy flows through the components that make up time and what makes up time? Difference. Maybe humans are predicting but the syncing of our present/current with the difference is what we see as the future. Maybe the future doesn’t exist and we just keep writing differences until we have enough similarities to grow in more difference. But back to the potentials and travel between. Maybe when we sync and jump it’s not like we moved but we kinda just continued. Like reality is skipping rope and we can sync/jump in. Maybe Deja by is because we don’t see the differences because it’s so close to being parallel. Think of how a human is a creation within this creation, what if we could create the other reality in a jar and then sync our current to the parallel, we would never know the difference or the difference could show up as Deja Vu. Reality is changing itself so we could make a pocket reality like a sim and then expand it and grow different connections and then enter it in parallel just lil the traveler but the traveler can pull stuff back out like a 3d printer or how a brain can be built with memories that never happened. The traveler can create the differences or the potentials similar to how we can pull the potentials from trees to make chairs or how we see a potential before full realization( when i say fully realize i mean created unlike imagined. The pieces it together and not scattered across the fabrics of reality. We are all pieces of reality just like the planets and space, we all are hiding potentials within ourselves similar to the tree. Our reality holds potentials as well and we are aren’t the differences. It doesn’t really matter past or present because the pieces hold each other. The parentheses are like the bounds and sometimes when enough difference, the bounds are expanded and connected like a cosmic web. Sorry if it’s all scattered. Sync up enough and you have a parallel reality similar to a simulation but if the sim is made of the real then isn’t it a real place that holds real value? Look at video games and books and how they hold value even though they are a portion, same with humans and animals. We may all be separate but it’s all connected. We can come back out of the book, out of the games, we can come back to the present similar to how a baby is born. We are still babies playing with infinity yet we think that we’re smart. Honestly, humans predicted gods. It’s not crazy either, look at gene editing and crispr, the ancestors didn’t understand but they could see the difference similar to how science works. Maybe when we get there, all potentials are within the current and that’s why it expands and creates difference. We are born of the universe and molded by it, we are still being molded but now we can guide it using the differences. Books movies, shows, thoughts, all to guide the current through potentials. The reason for expansion is the difference. As a difference shows, it can expand into new difference and then the connections happen, it’s not grow first expand after, its expand then grow connections and those create more difference so it’s like rolling down hill or a cascade.
@@driverslineocsz4418 sorry for the long reply. If the shadows were synced then that would be a point to enter from but since the witness and crow were already connected, they can see the difference and trace it back to the connection point and then they can see difference and follow it like a thread which will lead to the witness. The problem is that the witness went through an infinity so it’s quite difficult without the connection. Maybe we lose crow and use the ghost? Both crow and our ghost were touched by the witness and connected. A difference caused by the witness that can be seen and understood so we can follow. Mara and crow have a similar connection and that’s why we are sending crow first, so we can have a sync/bridge. Then we all follow the bridge made from the two connecting points. Since we were created within this reality, maybe since the traveler is parallel we can be created within similar to how the traveler can create outside, ie revive us/recreate us or how it can terraform planets. It’s not just the power that runs parallel but itself can. Like a computer housing a simulation and from the simulation it uses 3d printer to make what was on the inside on the outside.
@@user-if1ly5sn5f bro we can definitely be friends!! I read it all and I can say this:
1. We became Osiris’ right and left brain
2. You pointed out my “threads of connectivity” theory of how everything is connected (hence Einstein’s e=mc2 equation, but here me out as we know energy is neither destroyed or created but traded from one to the next but at no loss since they are connected but that’s a rabbit hole for something else)
3. Multiverse theory is a real bitch because of the realized and unrealized potentials- which is why in the movies the one rule is not to touch or alter anything when existing in a parallel universe.
4. Since we know that crow was touched by the witness - as you said that it narrows down what needs to be done. Wherever the witness is the “shadow” can be as it is the anchor point - Riven’s wish magic will set the pin to it as crow is the unrealized potential that exist to the realized potential.
5. Strand is used to weave the fabric of reality so I’m think Osiris will work with Mara to allow this.
Definitely good points you made though.
@@user-if1ly5sn5f there’s another parts of Deja vu I think it’s called deja reve (already seen and haven’t experienced) and jamais vu (never seen but have experienced ) and Deja vu well you already know how that works. I’m thinking the witness is going to get a taste of Jamais vu because of how eerie it is.
Osiris mentions gravity, magnetism and light. Which would co relate with void, arc and solar respectively. But he also mentions "sound".
Could that be a hint at a future fourth light subclass?
It would suck so bad if they added a 4th light subclass and not a 3rd darkness one
yes we shout the witness into submission lol.
I'd say sound would relate more to Resonance, which would likely be a darkness subclass. Good catch though
It could mean a power of balance since we recently learned that the Veil (the true darkness) and the Traveler were once the same being one force. So the third subclass could be a balance of both. Though my own personal theory is that we'll get it from the next sagas main villain. Because, it seems to be that different forms of darkness gave us our darkness powers
Stasis (The Witness)
Strand (The Veil)
Next villain, maybe who gifts it and that's maybe why it's not in the final shape?
@@dropkick3024 A completely new affinity would be awesome, one beyond light and dark or one that is both
I know the 9 are supposed to be planetary beings, but it would be nice to meet one represented in game as a character that has manifested its way to our level.
They also say the witness traveled to a direct point inside the traveler after stepping through the portal what if he went to a direct person inside the traveler seeing how quantum entanglement works what if the traveler is some sort of kingdom?
that would definitely be in line with some really old concept art and lore entries. I hope that turns out to be the case. I could imagine the Distributary being a Light+Dark variation of the Light-only world that exists inside the Traveler
I kinda figured this tbh interesting also first :p
3:49
Quantum entangled particles actually reflect the exact opposite states of whatever it's partner has aka it's charge, spin and other proprieties so maybe the Traveler and Vale are a reflection of passable states of the universe?
Void-Gravity?
Fire-Solar
Stasis-Ice
Arc-electricity
Whilst Solar and Stasis oppose each other thematically and visually. Stasis is not really Ice, but absolute control, no chaos. Which can happen only through removal of all energy, which creates ice.
@@theoutergod8666 but hey its just a theory, they are things that don't make sense in the context of the universe but mirror things we see in it, not just as the abilities themselves work and operate but how they effect and reflect nature as seen within the universe.
Its not necessarily an opposite state. It's a complimentary state. The Pauli Exclusion Principle says particles in the same energy state can't have the same four quantum numbers, so when entangled, they will take on different states, but not necessarily "opposite". In addition, larger systems that are entangled don't have the same restriction under the PEP, so you could have a larger entangled system (like two people) that took on identical properties when their wavefunctions collapse.
They’re were some correct things said regarding quantum’s but electrons have separate spins. You did do a good job though
Watch interstellar. Same theme with Matthew McConaughey and his daughter. Great movie. Must watch
This all makes sense, but what I want to know is. How many other shapes are their out in the universe, if were entering the "FINAL SHAPE" what was the original shape, what started everything that evolved into what it is now. Are there other shapes outs there, clones maybe?
I think the final shape is where what witness stops all evolution, leave everything the way it is no more births or deaths have everything at a stalemate. He's been pulling the strings the entire time since the collapse
How funny would it be if Mara was the one who gave the witness the final blow and she takes their power in order to reshape reality like her throne world using the Ahamkara
3:50 it’s thought that the quantum doesn’t interact normally with macro so things like humans and how X-rays can pass through portions well the quantum is like that but with specific connections similar to how a magnet has a specific connection from specific portions. So things like a magnetic field can move quantum materials or particles but a macro object would vary depending on the pieces because similar to a magnetic field, it’s not the whole thing interacting but a portion making a connection to another portion, like brains and the connections to the rest of the body. The current (like water and energy) flow in connection but can create difference. The difference can connect but the farther it is from each other, the lass connections are shared. Like distance and time and how a difference is spread over the variables of the current and the difference creates time or a range that can be measured in separation which we could call time. Forward and backwards are not time, time is in every direction and the insides and out of things. That’s why everything is possible and we can see the potentials before creation or full realization.
The quantum physics here is quite simple, in laymens terms whatever stimulus particle A recieves is also observed in particle B, jow im not going to breach into Quantum mechanics (its a headache please dont try to make sense of it if you dont have a firm understanding of it, it took me years of reading and study just to understand a fraction that I do now) but I will say its really as simple as that it can even be used as a way to communicate like in the sci-fi game Mass Effect though the difference in reality is (and proven quite recently)that quantum entanglement isnt limited to pairs, it can take on many entanglements at once but how is something ive yet to learn and how this functions without breaking my meager understanding of its mechanics/physics
About the quantum dice thing. It doesnt make sense. A dice "showing six" is entirely based on the viewer's position in this case. I think a more appropriate example of what you were trying to say would be that on the scale of the XYZ axes, they're in the same exact position. Because for both dices to be "showing six" on two different hemispheres of a planet, and therefore with gravity pulling them in different directions compared to the center point of it, it would require the universe to be actually based around human knowledge, in this case the simple notion of numbers and also just how a dice works, and not the contrary.
Queen Mara 😫
Infinity?
Perhaps you should call Jada Pinkett Smith, She’s an expert on entanglements 😅
I’m starting to love the new Mara, (my queen)
Bruh they out here makin very liberal use of the word quantum
Kugelblitz
milk
M . I . L . K
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I’m also not a physicist but I think dark matter is what causes quantum entanglement or perhaps the quantum level equivalent. Humanity has still not figured out why the universe keeps expanding, seemingly by a force we cannot see. Hence the name: dark matter.
>I'm not a pshycist
>starts talking about THE most obscure type of matter in the entire collective knowledge of humanity
Manbearpig
y cant Zavala or rhyule do it they r awoken
Because they don't share the bond Crow and Mara do? Duh, this was literally said by Crow THIS WEEK!
who's rhyule?
idk how to spell his name to cryptarch@@xXx_Regulus_xXx
too much science. i dont understand at all lmao
Yeah fr, I came here to shoot with guns and throwing purple magic at humanoid bugs, not to read entire essays about how literal quantum physics works in the comment section