Fire, Faith and the Forge
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- The Forge of Vulcan is the name given to a large expanse of desert in the middle of its largest continent, but it actually encompasses more than you might think. From the Fire Plains of Raal to the holy Mount Seleya of the Vulcan IDIC, let's take a look at the map of Vulcan and its history to see what else we can find in the Fires of this desert world.
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Proto-Vulcan lore would make an excellent fantasy TV series.
And/or post-apocalyptic.
Which would be horribly mangled by Hollywood.
@@westrim Mad Max + LOTR + Star Trek on Vulcan
@@inventist With a little bit of Dune mixed in as well.
I _love_ that they have a myth of slaughter - so green blood - that's associated with oxidised copper deposits - green rocks. That's such a cool little detail weaving together science, mythology, and the alien biology of the Vulcans.
I'd love to see more Trek pre-history like this. Cool stuff!
Vulcans and Roumlans. It's crazy to see them as the same
I'd love to see a series where the Romulans clash with the Vulcans and eventually ditch Vulcan. (Sarcastic Vulcan salutes. 🖖🏻🖖🏻)
Vulcan is my favorite trek species, and I love hearing stories about the time before the awakening. Great video!!
Thank you for the hard work brother.
this video is more trek than the section 31 movie
So its just a movie?
For a moment, I was hoping for a dimensional portal to Azeroth's Mt Hyjal and the temple of Ragnaros.
I've always liked the idea that the vulcanes have multiple offshoots, like the romulans, remans, and that one other species. I find it super interesting that they all come from a previously space fairing civilization that died out thousands of years earlier
Trek TV/movies are like....
Klingons and Vulcans:
Look at our lore bro its so deep bro.
Tellarites and Andorians:
We argue and fight, mostly off screen.
I also like it for the reason you stated near the end.
❤ Thank you
Live long and prosper ✨️
Fascinating.
It's interesting to think about Vulcan being a post-apocalyptic society, living high-tech lives among the ancient ruins of the long-gone civilizations.
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Is there a full map of Vulcan? Of any world besides Earth, I'd expect it to be more detailed than it has been. I feel like Bajor has been better explored in stories than Vulcan.
I always thought so too, but perhaps Vulcan feels so empty due to how tectonically active the planet is. The Vulcans could've kept much of their planet uninhabited (very few major cities) since it'd be too dangerous to construct permanent settlements on most of the planet
Maybe there are some Vulcan colonies that are more densely settled than even their own homeworld. But this is my personal analysis, I may be wrong :0
I found multiple from different sources and few actually agreed on distances and locations. This map I did sourced multiple ones and amended it as best I could to count for canon, but even this is still not going to be accurate.
There are alot of parallels between ancient Vulcans and Tolkien’s Elves.
We're the Elves transplanted on Vulcan by the Valar?
Hooray something to wash the taste out with
I'm assuming you're talking about the S31 movie. I'm a Trek apologist and this was our version of Stargate: Origins.
...that bad?
@@Nethershaw the Rachel Garrett character was nice to meet. Chaos is my friend is a dope line.
SPACE!!!
If Vulcan had problems with sand worms similar to Graboids. They should get Starfleet to time travel to Earth to get Burt Gummer he would get rid of their sand worm problems.
Shai Hulud is the source of the spice, tho... So worm eradication explains the existence of Plomek soup.
@@vortimerofkent128Dang.. so this is why Vulcan cuisine is so stale, the spice no longer flows :c
With being Warp capable around the 4th century, really ties in with the Romulans having that "Holy Roman Empire" feel. Of course, history of the split is sparse (though if it's not as sparse as I think, i'd live to see a vid on the split!) But i could totally see an era of Romulan history in which they try to erase records of their Vulcan origins out of a sense of nationalism, especially if done around the time of the Reman subjugation. Sort of a "nah, we were totally here first, dont listennto the Remans, they're just trying to make you hate your heritage" vibe.
OK so I have a headcanon, hear me out: Vulcan telepathy is NOT innate or naturally evolved, it was artificially introduced through nanites or something similar. If it was possible in the time of Surak to be able to feel the deaths of other Vulcans like Spock does, they could never have glassed the planet, it would have caused too much pain. Plus, Romulans don't have telepathy so that points to more evidence that before the Time of Awakening there was no telepathic connection. I think that after the Time of Awakening someone decided that the best way to stop the planet from being nuked again was to give people the ability to directly feel the minds of others. If everyone dropping a bomb knew that they'd experience the deaths of everyone they killed I bet a lot less bombs would be dropped.
Somehow this reminds me of Morrowind.
I must be the stupidest salamander ever.
Obviously Vulkan was based on the Vulcans.
Into the fire's of battle, unto the anvil of war.
The whole shared planetary orbit thing had to be created because when ST:TMP was made they had forgotten that in TOS Spock had stated that Vulcan had no moon, and so lo and behold there was a scene on Vulcan with two "moons" in the sky. When fans pointed out the incongruity the filmmakers admitted that they had goofed and were like "Oops!", so some explanation had to be woven into the lore. I would have preferred to ignore the goof and just have them edit the special effects graphics out.
Oh for sure, but it adds some uniqueness and character to the system.
Stromboli in space
So i saw the section 31 pilot.....
Same, I am debating doing a video on it for next week.
was it good?
@sulljoh1 it was alot to take in. But very flashy. I wasnt bored or angry. Not even disappointed. But concerned. 😆
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a breakdown of the xcv 330 enterprise
Why are alien worlds so small. Really: one site for the whole damned planet? And why are aliens monocultural? (I know the practical reason; what does canon say?)
*Algorithm Cookie* 🍪
Will you make a political map of Earth in different centuries?
My understanding is that after WWIII in the 21st century the nations formed the United Earth Government. And that was the governing body until at least the Burn. Don't know after that.
@borkhthree-jackdaws5918 yes, but also it would be interesting to see the xxi century on earth, with the irish reunification, khan's empire, pancaribbean government, the ECON, the US with more states, neotrotskyist france, Old Britain, and many more examples
Why don't you make it?
@LokiOdinson-fz8ps i tried, the problem is that there is no canon borders in most mentioned countries from the xxi century, so each trekkie can make a different map according to their thoughts
Not a very good desert if they dont have sand worms...
How do you know they don't?
If they have similar sand worms to the Graboids. The vulcans should get Starfleet to time travel to earth to get Burt Gummer he can take care of their problems.
The Vulcan Science Academy has determined that time travel is not possible.
The Spice must flow. 🏖️🪱
Yeah. Any desert that doesn't have sand worms is kind of a letdown.