I don't think so. The borg are logical. They don't change their ways that vast. They would do it the same way they did in the beginning. As long as the species met their criteria, they would assimilate that species and not go on an assimilation spread kike you say
@@dougsmith6262 I always felt that species 8472 was too much of a crutch for the writers. They needed a reason to make voyager relevant and so they ended up making the Borg retarded. Voyager literally added nothing, zero, there was no single thing that voyager added to the collective knowledge or understanding of 8472….. All they did was apply Borg nano technology with a bio dampening field to make the nano probes mimic 8472’s own signature in order to trick it’s immune system into ignoring them. This was an adaptation done by an EMH which we know for a fact that the Borg have encountered before. The Borg already had the ability to make this adaptation on their own without voyager they simply waited until voyager made the modification. Even without voyager though you do see over the course of both episodes that the Borg ships do become more resistant to the bio beams and overtime they do adapt even without the ability to shoot back. Again realistically with 1000s of species that the Borg have encountered and the hundreds if not thousands of different types of weapons and approaches and tactics they’ve seen…. You would think they would have come up with at least some form of adaptation to 8472 or just try different approaches but apparently they didn’t….. We’re just expected to believe the borg kept throwing ship AfterShip AfterShip AfterShip AfterShip at 8472 and doing nothing differently which is the clinical description of insanity. A species known for their adaptation …simply did not change or adapt or attempt to change or adapt at all. 8472 is a crutch of the writers not a well thought out enemy
I wonder if they lowered their standards, like recruiters in actual wars. You know things are rough in the Collective if they start going after Kazon, lol.
makes me wonder if they returned to some biologic reproduction. Since that would help faster. Create children, use genetic modifications to "age" them to full grown adults and are born as human borg. All machines are nanites in this clone whatever.
That explains exactly WHY the Kazon are so bitter and hostile. The Kazon are collectively thinking: "oh REALLY?!? You think we're NOT good enough to assimilate? *ALL Kazon give the Middle Finger to the Borg* "well, FRIG YOU!!!"
"WE WILL NOT ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGY TO OUR OWN. IT'S SH*T. HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU EVER GET YOUR PATHETIC, WACK @SSES INTO SPACE ANYWAYS? STEAL IT FROM INTERGALACTIC GARBAGE WORKERS? YOU GREASEBALL HOBOES WITH YOUR DON KING HAIR? WHO THE HELL'S YOUR HAIR CARE AVATAR? COOLIO? BUSTA RYMES? LIL JOHN? DAMN, RESISTANCE IS UNNECESSARY. YOU ARE JUST NOT WORTH OUR F*CKING TIME OR EFFORT. F*CK. GO AWAY NOW. AND,FOR BORG QUEEN'S SAKE, FIND A DECENT F*CKING HAIR STYLIST!!!"
@@Transilvanian90I don"t know if simple code changes would be enough. From what I gather from my friends, who are much better at this stuff, even erasing the data wouldn't be enough. You would have to physically destroy the hard drives.
@@Transilvanian90I don’t think Starfleet has anything even remotely approaching the Cole protocol…. I think pretty much everything is an open book to them and even then, The Cole protocol would fail in the face of the fact that they assimilate biological knowledge as well, and all it would take would be to assimilate someone who knows the location of a world or is an engineer versed in the knowledge they’re looking for.
@@Matt-yg8ub Hard knowledge yes, they can definitely acquire that, world locations they probably know anyway, but codes and other secret info can be destroyed if designed properly and the possibility accounted for
@@Transilvanian90 But Starfleet never struck me as that kind of organization. Cryptography was just not their thing, if anything they pretty much conceded espionage and secrets to the likes of the evil Romulans and the dirty dirty section 31. The federation was far too idealistic and utopian to ever sink to those lows…. At least 90’s TNG was, the reimagined grittier darker, lens flare version appears to depict the federation officer as basically the Soviet KGB
I've always liked to think that the Borg aren't really looking to assimilate the galaxy, as else they'd have made a lot more progress, but are more farming the galaxy for technology and biological developments. Which explains why they have tunnels everywhere, even to other realities, just so they can feed on the widest selection available. Of course a lot of the Borg's drones and ships are effectively salvage with patch-worked technology stuffed into them, or divided like a cell to make two new wholes, rather then being built from scratch. Makes me wonder what a Borg drone and their ship would look like if they build them directly.
I like how We Have Engaged the Borg describes (IIRC) the pre-Federation Collective. Their Assimilation Requirement was based on a species 'harmony' and how their inclusion would improve the Borg's overall perfection. They may take a species that's been in space thousands of years, or one that hasn't even reached orbit. The tech acquired didn't, primarily, matter, just the effect they'd have on 'perfection'. And on their ships, I've got a headcannon that there's a lot of Borg vessels that, at their deep cores, started as another races. A ship is assimilated, used as a minor support ship for the Collective, but over time is expanded on into a scout, then expanded more into a sphere, then a cube/station.
Considering how a small science vessel in ENT managed to gain mass via (presumably) Borg-sourced replicators, it wouldn’t be surprising if all cubes started out that way.
This has always made by far the most sense to me since the BORG Don’t behave at all like they are trying to conquer anything but rather just poking around looking for technology
Remember, the borg Watchword is "EFFICIENCY." They don't spend all their energy and resources trying to assimilate races they don't feel would bring sufficient value. They select what they think are optimum targets. In that way they are the polar opposite of the otherwise similar Cybermen from Doctor Who, who just constantly want new meat and spare parts.
On their ships, I think the Borg DO purpose-build their ships. Assimilated ships like they attempted to do with the Enterprise, Voyager and the shuttle thing Archer fought are probably stopgap measures mostly for special circumstances. After all, the cube at Wolf-359 didn't bother assimilating ships, just blew through them. That's probably more typical.
The Borg try to hold a Star Search / American Idol kind of talent competition, but only like four species send out a representative, and soon there is a panel of bored drones watching as some guy makes silly noises by tapping on his cheeks. Waiting in the wings, someone practices drinking water while making a dummy talk, only to start choking.
And one of them is a Kazon. They barely get started with their performance when all 4 X’s light up in rapid succession. As they get booed off the stage, one stage shouts “There’s a reason we never assimilated your species!”
@@ReallyBillyBoggs I don't think it would officially be a Lower Decks background detail until, after he starts choking on the water, the puppet coughs it out.
If the Borg assimilated the Talaxians, they'd have something far more dangerous than any technology: culinary expertise. No one, I mean, no one can resist great food, let alone a million different variations of leola root recipes. Resistance would then be truly futile.
In one of the Star Trek anthology books I read there was a short story where that pair of Pakleds that abducted Geordi located a Borg cube, voluntarily boarded it, forced themselves to be assimilated into drones against the Borg's wishes because that specific Borg Cube was the one from the Battle of Sector 001 at the beginning of the Star Trek: First Contact.
What I've always wondered about, is that it has been hinted at that the El-Aurians have had multiple dealings with the Q. And, Guinan never seemed to be particularly scared of Q when he showed up. In fact she seemed quite ready to throw down when he appeared on the Enterprise. So, how did a species confidant enough to stand up to the Q, get assimilated in the first place?
I always found that interesting as well. Maybe the borg are like predators such as lions, tiger, bears and wolves. The singular El Aurian or small groups are vulnerable yet the species itself can fight back.
The El-Aurians may have had the ability to deal with a 'supernatural' threat, like the Q. But, they may have lacked a useful defense against a physical threat like the Borg. It's like someone developing advanced hacking abilities to hijack an opponents ships and vehicles through their computers, but they face an army with analog systems.
Since El-Aurians have an innate ability to sense changes in the timeline, maybe a Q or few just kept messing around with the timeline for funzies, and the El-Aurians made a giant species-wide fuss about it that was too annoying to ignore and spoiled any entertainment that could’ve been gained from the timeline changes. And unfortunately, the El-Aurians could not be quietly retgoned without breaking the universe, so the Q just caved and restored everything, hoping they wouldn’t have to deal with such nuisance ever again.
It goes the other way too -- see Q2: "If the Continuum has told you once, it's told you a thousand times. DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG." I doubt the Q are actually _scared_ of the Borg but they definitely treat them with special caution that they don't extend to regular species. So there's a pretty mysterious and interesting dynamic between El-Aurians, Q, and Borg.
8:05 - it is my (unfounded) opinion that when the Think Tank in the Voyager episode of the same name said they "solved" the phage and said the crew would "hardly recognize them" ... I believe they meant they sent in the Borg to "solve" the phage... by assimilating every last one of them.
dark, but pragmatic. It is a very logical way of dealing with a problem species/plague. Just send in the bigger, scarier plague and let them fight it out.
I would love to see a Star Trek series revolving around the early days of the Borg, maybe before they went all "Resistance is Futile" on a quest to perfection.
As far as I know, it was a bloody war. 2 anchient and advanced species fought a war. One of them were completly wiped out, the other developed themself into the Borg and started assimilate other civilisations. The rest is history.
When you listen to this you realize the Borg are not interested in conquering territory or expanding for the sake of expansion, they basically just poke people occasionally so that people continue to try to come up with better ways to resist and in doing so they grow and every time the Borg poke at them, they learn more and they grow and advance towards their perfection
So I just got done scouting out all the Delta Quadrant Patrols. The old ones, not the ones that you can just que up for. They are pretty awesome man, and right up your alley I think. They would have to be temporal patrols, as they happen before Gaul gets his, but they would be totally worth it for you I think.
I would liike to point out an Adendum from the Seven of Nine novel: Species 13: the Tak-Tak. An insectoid race who the borg got their personal sheild technology from. Only a handful of individuals were assimilated, but Seven indentifies them as the species who posessed a unique type of shield tech that the borg adapted and used on their drones. There is also another species identified in the novel. The novel starts with the assimilation of that species' homeworld, some of the survivors subsiquently end up on Voyager, but i forget their name but they possess powerful psychic abilities, one of them even tries to drive Seven to commit suicide in the novel.
@@CharlesTaylor-o9p according to the book, the Tak-tak had a certain kind of shield tech that let them reconfig their shields to match weapon frequences, or something to that effect. When the borg got their hands on it, they implimented it first on the drones, giving them their personal shields that we know now.
klingons where assimilated as well reference the voyager episode where 7 when in regen went to the dream realm were they whwere themselves and not drones
I believe the episodes you're referring to are "Unimatrix Zero" parts 1 & 2, but a Klingon drone was also seen in the episode when proximity to a Vinculum caused Annika to develop a form of DID from the different drones associated with the particular vessel
@@andrewmalinowski6673 Isn't there also one in First Contact? I may be mis-remembering that, but I feel like there was one. I want to see assimilated Gorn though... TOS Gorg would be hysterical, but cool; STO Gorg ("and now they have a cybernetic dinosaur" Michael Burnham, The Measure of Morality, Part 2) would be intimidating and impressive, and then there's absolute horror-show that would be SNW Gorg (would be terrifying)!
thats kinda what the games are for....We are human beings so we won't get a non human view. It defeats the point of the show. Maybe you would live a spin off.... I wish new trek would stop focusing on key events in star trek lore. Discovery was garbage, lets look for the progenitors work...yea, a topic of one episode became the whole point of all 10 episodes...no filler, just an indiana Jones like tv show that barely felt like star trek at all. They were so abiguous that they rarely told you were they were or how far they traveled. It's just instantaneous travel...even picard was bad. Let me warp to a place days and days away, then warp back as if no time had passed at all....these writers are lazy and don't sound like they were the original workers...so we are only asking for garbage when we have people who didn't actually create the show working for it. they just copy everything already done.
when you said every species I was led to believe you would be starting with species 1 and then working your way through "every species the borg assimilated"!
My theory is that the Borg don't even acquire all the brain knowledge of an individual they assimilate. From a neurological standpoint, the nanoprobes could infect the brain stem of say, a human, and pick up the electrical signals of neurons firing. But without the entirety of the consciousness of the individual, these memories or knowledge is simple electrical impulses. The Borg override the humans individuality, so accessing these memories is a bit hit and miss. Without a fully conscious and self-actialised individual, the knowledge and memories can't be access by brute force because they need to be accessed in accordance with how humans access them. Either through dreaming l, relaxation techniques, behavioural modification or hypnosis to name a few examples. That can't happen because the human is a drone of the collective. Their so called distinctiveness and knowledge can't consciously be access by the collective as a whole because without living as that individual, the rest of the collective would just seen images or experience thoughts or memories without context. This is how I believe the Borg receive their knowledge in most cases. They see glimpses perhaps of technology, ideas and thoughts without context and therefore must peice it together. By assimilating say 100k humans, they start building a more comprehensive picture or for want of a better term, a much larger section of a jig-saw when it comes to acquiring knowledge. From thousands, they can extrapolate technology, theoretical and applied experience by building this bigger image. But they can't just assimilate one person and gain every single bit of knowledge from them. Each person is a fragment of a whole. Which is probably why the Borg assimilate so many of a species, to gain this deeper knowledge.
So the Brunali is the equivalent to a fast food joint to the Borg? They pop out of their transwarp, look at the Burnali homeplanet and go: 'Sure, I could pop by for a quick snack', assimilate a few of them and then continue on their merry way, repeating this cycle every once in a while. Kinda like how when you pass McDonalds on the way home from work and you don't feel like cooking, so you just pop by for a burger and some fries before heading out.
Voth come to Earth. "We submit claimance of ancestry to this world." Humans. "So you're saying we have family in the delta quadrant?" Borg. "You will be..." Humans and Voth. "Oh shush you!"
Yeah I think the Klingons, Romulans, Breen, Cardassians, Tzenkethi, etc might have something to say about that, big powerful species just showing up in their backyard trying to say "we belong here this is ours we'll take what we want primates."
With the Breen not having blood I'd assume they can't be assimilated. Would the Tolians high body temperature melt the nanoprobes. I'd assume it's possible they could reprogram the nanoprobes similar to what the EMH does to modify the nanoprobes to take out Species 8472 could be altered to assimilate non standard humanoids
@@thestanleys3657 yeah, its what I was thinking, its just a curious thought exercise as they have very advanced tech The Borg would likely be interested in getting their hands on.
@@ShikiKiryu the Borg probably think you can never have enough tech 🤤😅. The Tolian web tech would probably be desired by the Borg to help in subduing targets. I think I recall someone saying Breen ships are partially organic so maybe an issue there
this is one reason a followup on picard season 3 needs to happen. the federation knowing the borg are pretty much gone (not counting the jirati borg) need to go into their space and clean up the mess they left behind. Id pay to see a show about this
Two questions: Guinan's people had FTL tech in the late 1800's, earth time. Much earlier than a lot of species. So by the time that the Borg found them, that tech would be much more advanced than maybe even the Borg had? Though why they needed Star Fleets help to move survivors is unknown (also why Starfleet didn't ask who they were fleeing from is also a mystery worth looking into. Something tells me that Section 31 knew about the Borg long before The Enterprise D encountered them in person the first time). Second: 7 of 9 was human with Borg technical implants. She wasn't "upgraded" with other species biological traits at all. She was young enough to be ungraded, as she was still a kid when captured. So do the Borg think humans are biologically superior?
Given that Section 31 was around during Enterprise-era in the 22nd Century in some form and the Arctic Encounter leftover from First Contact, they probably did.
That’s really not how a collective works…. Think of the individual drones like cells in a body. Any body requires many different kinds of cells, in this case they didn’t need to upgrade seven from being human because her function was “hot blonde babe” for communications purposes. I’m not exactly sure what tertiary adjunct of unimatrix 01 means…. I get the impression she was basically in the Queen’s chain of command
@@Matt-yg8ub "Tertiary" implies "third" (i.e. Primary, secondary, tertiary), so Seven was likely third in command within the central, primary unimatrix. A "unimatrix" being a term to describe both the massive structures that Borg construct as bases, and as the name for the twelve largest, cylindrical capital ships used by the Borg....so Seven was the third highest-ranking Borg in the Collective, stationed in either the "Borg capital city" or the Queen's flagship. Perhaps both.
@@GrymmSoul Yes but the fact that she was a tertiary adjunct means that she would’ve been the third representative of that unimatrix. realistically her title means nothing because it was made up by the writers and I don’t think they ever intended for it to mean anything specific, but you can tell by the later interactions between seven and the queen there had been a relationship between them.
Well given how easily Seven connected to the cube in Picard Season 1 "tertiary adjunct" probably made her one of the back-up queens since she already had the necessary implants to do the job.
Arturis's species were brilliant _idiots._ They were so capable, but decided to turtle and fight _a endless wave_ [800 Cubes in the end] when they had the tech to get a significant proportion of their species out of range. A fleet of Quantum Slipstream ships could have taken them very far away from Borgspace, Arturis's ship bypassed the Borg armada and dropped out in the middle of his home system, so they could have gotten ships out. Their amazing physical and mental abilities¹ as a species meant they could prosper anywhere else they set up shop. Just on an individual level they were a OP species even without their technology. But that it took 800 Cubes to finally defeat them is a testament to their technology and power. Just a few large ships from Species 116 arriving in the Alpha Quadrant would have had a drastic effect on the balance of power. Especially decades earlier than the events of Voyager or even centuries - 116 is a low number. No one would be able to stop them setting up wherever they wanted. They could have even gone the Voth route and have mobile city ships as their centre of power instead of settling on a new planet(s). And that's not even taking into account their other technological achievements … particle synthesis sounds awesome. If they had anywhere near a equivalent level of biotechnology they could have also artificially brought their numbers back up with IVF/gene banks/growth tanks/genetic synthesis. Far 'lesser' species came up with out of the box thinking in facing the Borg, perhaps while incredibly intelligent and advanced, they just were 'too logical?' But Arturis was a schemer who came up with a convoluted plan, so they are/were capable of 'dirty tricks'. ¹ imagine a _sane_ member of their species joining any Starfleet crew. They would become the _superhuman_ of the crew [Spock, Data, Odo, Kes/Seven of Nine] who has abilities far above a Human's. "Captain, I'll get my multiple phaser wounds treated _after_ I finish extrapolating and decoding this ancient fragment of … done it. Oh, and can you let maintenance know that a couple of dead Nausican pirates are stuck in the bulkheads of corridor 8 section 3? I threw them into the walls and their bodies broke through a jefferies hatch."
This is easily the most horrific part of the borg, all these people that we know literally nothing about and probably never will becasue they fell total victim to the borg. Its lore that could definitely use expansion on. Having a series that focuses on one of these lost species ultimately futile struggle and assimilation would really bring back the horror factor of the Collective.
do you think the borg would assimilate an animal if it had something like, absurd regen, or resistence ti energy weapons to see how to replicate it, or would they just dissect it
I think they would assimilate if it had the neurological ability to serve as a drone. Otherwise, they would just dissect it to determine the physical traits they desired.
I'd assume one of three reasons they don't use cloaking: 1. The technology is incompatible with the Borg's distributed power systems. 2. They find cloaking energy inefficient. 3.They do not need to use cloaking.
Why would they need cloaking technology? For the past 900 years they'd been able to assimilate thousands of species, and losses typically mean nothing to the Borg. Considering their technology is years ahead of Starfleets and resistance is almost always futile they have no need of cloaking technology.
actually we only ever saw one planet that the spatial trajector could go to but they said in the episode that it could go to many, so it's logical to assume that they could also use it to settle many other planets.
The D'deridex Warbird? Specifically, a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird from Star Trek Online. The D'deridex was the Romulan response to the Federation's Galaxy-class starships, serving as the Star Empire's capital ships long after the destruction of Hobus; while the Romulan Republic has delved into more modernized ship designs with innovative tech. The Republic, however, continues to use the D'deridex Warbirds that they could manage to steal, or which were brought in by captains defecting from the Tal Shiar-dominated imperial remnants, to the Romulan Republic. In true Romulan fashion, the D'deridex was designed to be huge and imposing, specifically in comparison to Galaxy-class ships, in an endeavor to intimidate the crews of even Federation flagships.
While I don't want them to fully reveal the Borg's origins... a good plot would be recovering remains of an ancient crash site on an unknown planet, and recoverin' primitive Borg corpses, thus just showin' us just a glimpse of their past, but not an origin.
.....and because the Kazon don't possess any beneficial biological traits either; stating that assimilating Kazon would have a deleterious affect on the Collective, setting the Borg backwards from achieving "perfection." Assimilating Kazon isn't only useless to the Borg, it would essentially devolve them.
Oberth? Pretty sure that was a Grissom-class ship. The front of the hull of the Oberth comes to a distinct point, while the Grissom sports a much more rounded design. In fact, both ships have each other as customizable skins...so it literally could be an Oberth set to look like a Grissom, or is just the Grissom......and I feel like Rick wouldn't be bothering to fly around in a Tier 1 Science vessel, when he no doubt has the T6 Grissom. To be fair, either way, I'd be terrified to fight a Borg fleet in either rinky-dink science ship, with its hull made of cardboard, hope, and desperation, lol.
While they screwed up the borg from their original better concept, the Borg certainly did innovate without assimilation. It's been shown many times at least in battle.
Its interesting that they cannot assimilate a technology just from a single vessel, but would need the entire species to get their engineers, scientists, and innovators in order to properly assimilate the technology.
I personally wonder if a member of the Q has/could be assimilated. They have a rule "Don't provoke the Borg" so I think there has been some encounters.
Why didnt the rescued El Aurians notify Starfleet about the Borg? I still dont understand. Gannon was involved with starfleet for a a few decades and didnt say anything till the Borg Cube parked in front of the Enterprise D in the J25 system.
I cannot remember where this line took place but I could swear that I remember Seven of Nine telling someone on Voyager that there was a species the Borg encountered in which this species was already considered perfect and to assimilate would “detract them from perfection.” Does anyone know what episode this was?
Think you might have misremembered. She was talking about Kazon and that they were inferior and would detract from the perfection of the hive. Not sure of episode.
She spoke of a physics and energy source that the board had tried to develop notice the omega molecule by saying that it was absolute perfection and that it was somehow the integration of all of its components in a way the board treated with an almost though she did not use the word religious zeal
I wonder where the BORG local (hand?) came from? I imagine, it's based on the original civilization that became the first BORG ("Source 0" / by their own doing or from an outside source), but why does it still exist, its meaning, if any is long forgotten? ;-) I believe there's no original BORG ("Source 0") alive and have been extinct for untold centuries?
I still think the earliest Voth with warp didn't get past that Time dylation issues so the Voth aren't truely 75 million years old just a few 100,000 or less by their own calendar so like 30,000 thought years in the galaxy may of only be say 5 years for them
I thought telaxians were ignored by the borg as assimilation would be a negative to the borg, or something like that when seven was first introduced to the show.
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in the books the borg have a mass invasion with like 5000 cubes
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@@seancondon5572 no its are, fix ur English
after the war with species 8472 i think the borg went on assimilation spree to recoup the heavy losses they took
The only species to offer true resistance, according to Seven.
I don't think so. The borg are logical. They don't change their ways that vast. They would do it the same way they did in the beginning. As long as the species met their criteria, they would assimilate that species and not go on an assimilation spread kike you say
@@dougsmith6262 I always felt that species 8472 was too much of a crutch for the writers. They needed a reason to make voyager relevant and so they ended up making the Borg retarded.
Voyager literally added nothing, zero, there was no single thing that voyager added to the collective knowledge or understanding of 8472….. All they did was apply Borg nano technology with a bio dampening field to make the nano probes mimic 8472’s own signature in order to trick it’s immune system into ignoring them.
This was an adaptation done by an EMH which we know for a fact that the Borg have encountered before. The Borg already had the ability to make this adaptation on their own without voyager they simply waited until voyager made the modification.
Even without voyager though you do see over the course of both episodes that the Borg ships do become more resistant to the bio beams and overtime they do adapt even without the ability to shoot back. Again realistically with 1000s of species that the Borg have encountered and the hundreds if not thousands of different types of weapons and approaches and tactics they’ve seen…. You would think they would have come up with at least some form of adaptation to 8472 or just try different approaches but apparently they didn’t….. We’re just expected to believe the borg kept throwing ship AfterShip AfterShip AfterShip AfterShip at 8472 and doing nothing differently which is the clinical description of insanity. A species known for their adaptation …simply did not change or adapt or attempt to change or adapt at all.
8472 is a crutch of the writers not a well thought out enemy
I wonder if they lowered their standards, like recruiters in actual wars. You know things are rough in the Collective if they start going after Kazon, lol.
makes me wonder if they returned to some biologic reproduction. Since that would help faster. Create children, use genetic modifications to "age" them to full grown adults and are born as human borg. All machines are nanites in this clone whatever.
I love how the Borg encountered the Kazon, but chose not to assimilate them fearing it would detract from perfection. BURN!!! 🤣
It always felt like a burn towards whichever writer came up with the Kazon.
@@zerrodefexExactly!
That explains exactly WHY the Kazon are so bitter and hostile.
The Kazon are collectively thinking: "oh REALLY?!? You think we're NOT good enough to assimilate? *ALL Kazon give the Middle Finger to the Borg* "well, FRIG YOU!!!"
"WE WILL NOT ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGY TO OUR OWN. IT'S SH*T. HOW IN THE HELL DID YOU EVER GET YOUR PATHETIC, WACK @SSES INTO SPACE ANYWAYS? STEAL IT FROM INTERGALACTIC GARBAGE WORKERS? YOU GREASEBALL HOBOES WITH YOUR DON KING HAIR? WHO THE HELL'S YOUR HAIR CARE AVATAR? COOLIO? BUSTA RYMES? LIL JOHN? DAMN, RESISTANCE IS UNNECESSARY. YOU ARE JUST NOT WORTH OUR F*CKING TIME OR EFFORT. F*CK. GO AWAY NOW. AND,FOR BORG QUEEN'S SAKE, FIND A DECENT F*CKING HAIR STYLIST!!!"
(P.S. I would have said if you hadn't.)
Would ABSOLUTELY be interested in Starfleet's protocol when a ship or colony is assimilated!
Probably similar to the Cole Protocol in Halo, make sure that you change all access codes and classified info that the Borg could get.
@@Transilvanian90I don"t know if simple code changes would be enough. From what I gather from my friends, who are much better at this stuff, even erasing the data wouldn't be enough. You would have to physically destroy the hard drives.
@@Transilvanian90I don’t think Starfleet has anything even remotely approaching the Cole protocol…. I think pretty much everything is an open book to them and even then, The Cole protocol would fail in the face of the fact that they assimilate biological knowledge as well, and all it would take would be to assimilate someone who knows the location of a world or is an engineer versed in the knowledge they’re looking for.
@@Matt-yg8ub Hard knowledge yes, they can definitely acquire that, world locations they probably know anyway, but codes and other secret info can be destroyed if designed properly and the possibility accounted for
@@Transilvanian90 But Starfleet never struck me as that kind of organization. Cryptography was just not their thing, if anything they pretty much conceded espionage and secrets to the likes of the evil Romulans and the dirty dirty section 31. The federation was far too idealistic and utopian to ever sink to those lows…. At least 90’s TNG was, the reimagined grittier darker, lens flare version appears to depict the federation officer as basically the Soviet KGB
I've always liked to think that the Borg aren't really looking to assimilate the galaxy, as else they'd have made a lot more progress, but are more farming the galaxy for technology and biological developments. Which explains why they have tunnels everywhere, even to other realities, just so they can feed on the widest selection available.
Of course a lot of the Borg's drones and ships are effectively salvage with patch-worked technology stuffed into them, or divided like a cell to make two new wholes, rather then being built from scratch. Makes me wonder what a Borg drone and their ship would look like if they build them directly.
I like how We Have Engaged the Borg describes (IIRC) the pre-Federation Collective. Their Assimilation Requirement was based on a species 'harmony' and how their inclusion would improve the Borg's overall perfection. They may take a species that's been in space thousands of years, or one that hasn't even reached orbit. The tech acquired didn't, primarily, matter, just the effect they'd have on 'perfection'.
And on their ships, I've got a headcannon that there's a lot of Borg vessels that, at their deep cores, started as another races. A ship is assimilated, used as a minor support ship for the Collective, but over time is expanded on into a scout, then expanded more into a sphere, then a cube/station.
Considering how a small science vessel in ENT managed to gain mass via (presumably) Borg-sourced replicators, it wouldn’t be surprising if all cubes started out that way.
This has always made by far the most sense to me since the BORG Don’t behave at all like they are trying to conquer anything but rather just poking around looking for technology
Remember, the borg Watchword is "EFFICIENCY." They don't spend all their energy and resources trying to assimilate races they don't feel would bring sufficient value. They select what they think are optimum targets. In that way they are the polar opposite of the otherwise similar Cybermen from Doctor Who, who just constantly want new meat and spare parts.
On their ships, I think the Borg DO purpose-build their ships. Assimilated ships like they attempted to do with the Enterprise, Voyager and the shuttle thing Archer fought are probably stopgap measures mostly for special circumstances.
After all, the cube at Wolf-359 didn't bother assimilating ships, just blew through them. That's probably more typical.
The Borg try to hold a Star Search / American Idol kind of talent competition, but only like four species send out a representative, and soon there is a panel of bored drones watching as some guy makes silly noises by tapping on his cheeks. Waiting in the wings, someone practices drinking water while making a dummy talk, only to start choking.
this feels like a lower decks skit lol
And one of them is a Kazon. They barely get started with their performance when all 4 X’s light up in rapid succession. As they get booed off the stage, one stage shouts “There’s a reason we never assimilated your species!”
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I don't think it would officially be a Lower Decks background detail until, after he starts choking on the water, the puppet coughs it out.
If the Borg assimilated the Talaxians, they'd have something far more dangerous than any technology: culinary expertise. No one, I mean, no one can resist great food, let alone a million different variations of leola root recipes. Resistance would then be truly futile.
"WE WILL ADD YOUR DISTINCTIVE CULINARY SKILLS TO OUR ROOT STEW RECIPE DATABASE."
In one of the Star Trek anthology books I read there was a short story where that pair of Pakleds that abducted Geordi located a Borg cube, voluntarily boarded it, forced themselves to be assimilated into drones against the Borg's wishes because that specific Borg Cube was the one from the Battle of Sector 001 at the beginning of the Star Trek: First Contact.
What I've always wondered about, is that it has been hinted at that the El-Aurians have had multiple dealings with the Q. And, Guinan never seemed to be particularly scared of Q when he showed up. In fact she seemed quite ready to throw down when he appeared on the Enterprise. So, how did a species confidant enough to stand up to the Q, get assimilated in the first place?
I always found that interesting as well. Maybe the borg are like predators such as lions, tiger, bears and wolves. The singular El Aurian or small groups are vulnerable yet the species itself can fight back.
The El-Aurians may have had the ability to deal with a 'supernatural' threat, like the Q. But, they may have lacked a useful defense against a physical threat like the Borg. It's like someone developing advanced hacking abilities to hijack an opponents ships and vehicles through their computers, but they face an army with analog systems.
@@Treveli45 I suppose that the Borg could have developed a defense against races like Q, and Al-Aurians...perhaps, even the Dowed.
Since El-Aurians have an innate ability to sense changes in the timeline, maybe a Q or few just kept messing around with the timeline for funzies, and the El-Aurians made a giant species-wide fuss about it that was too annoying to ignore and spoiled any entertainment that could’ve been gained from the timeline changes. And unfortunately, the El-Aurians could not be quietly retgoned without breaking the universe, so the Q just caved and restored everything, hoping they wouldn’t have to deal with such nuisance ever again.
It goes the other way too -- see Q2: "If the Continuum has told you once, it's told you a thousand times. DON'T PROVOKE THE BORG."
I doubt the Q are actually _scared_ of the Borg but they definitely treat them with special caution that they don't extend to regular species.
So there's a pretty mysterious and interesting dynamic between El-Aurians, Q, and Borg.
8:05 - it is my (unfounded) opinion that when the Think Tank in the Voyager episode of the same name said they "solved" the phage and said the crew would "hardly recognize them" ... I believe they meant they sent in the Borg to "solve" the phage... by assimilating every last one of them.
dark, but pragmatic. It is a very logical way of dealing with a problem species/plague. Just send in the bigger, scarier plague and let them fight it out.
Nice. I'd never considered that!
that would literally be the biggest gamble the think taank ever did! as it put them in danger of the borg but would be something they would do!
I would love to see a Star Trek series revolving around the early days of the Borg, maybe before they went all "Resistance is Futile" on a quest to perfection.
like the Battlestar Galactica prequal series Caprica?
As far as I know, it was a bloody war.
2 anchient and advanced species fought a war.
One of them were completly wiped out, the other developed themself into the Borg and started assimilate other civilisations. The rest is history.
Not Star Trek, but we technically do: the rise of the Cybermen in Doctor Who.
"REALLY nasty" Borg: 'Resistance Is Encouraged.'...😏
When you listen to this you realize the Borg are not interested in conquering territory or expanding for the sake of expansion, they basically just poke people occasionally so that people continue to try to come up with better ways to resist and in doing so they grow and every time the Borg poke at them, they learn more and they grow and advance towards their perfection
So I just got done scouting out all the Delta Quadrant Patrols. The old ones, not the ones that you can just que up for.
They are pretty awesome man, and right up your alley I think.
They would have to be temporal patrols, as they happen before Gaul gets his, but they would be totally worth it for you I think.
I would liike to point out an Adendum from the Seven of Nine novel: Species 13: the Tak-Tak. An insectoid race who the borg got their personal sheild technology from. Only a handful of individuals were assimilated, but Seven indentifies them as the species who posessed a unique type of shield tech that the borg adapted and used on their drones.
There is also another species identified in the novel. The novel starts with the assimilation of that species' homeworld, some of the survivors subsiquently end up on Voyager, but i forget their name but they possess powerful psychic abilities, one of them even tries to drive Seven to commit suicide in the novel.
The Skedan. The novel is titled: Star Trek Voyager Seven Of Nine.
@@Lizfan2 i know, i have it.
@@TheGuardianofAzarath Me too
So, the Tak-Tak had advanced Tactical Tech?...
@@CharlesTaylor-o9p according to the book, the Tak-tak had a certain kind of shield tech that let them reconfig their shields to match weapon frequences, or something to that effect. When the borg got their hands on it, they implimented it first on the drones, giving them their personal shields that we know now.
Even though the humanoid form was the standard fare, it seems as if Seven of Nine implied that non-humanoid forms have been also assimilated
Those are inside the unicomplex or in a Borg Tactical cube.
klingons where assimilated as well reference the voyager episode where 7 when in regen went to the dream realm were they whwere themselves and not drones
I believe the episodes you're referring to are "Unimatrix Zero" parts 1 & 2, but a Klingon drone was also seen in the episode when proximity to a Vinculum caused Annika to develop a form of DID from the different drones associated with the particular vessel
@@andrewmalinowski6673 Isn't there also one in First Contact? I may be mis-remembering that, but I feel like there was one.
I want to see assimilated Gorn though... TOS Gorg would be hysterical, but cool; STO Gorg ("and now they have a cybernetic dinosaur" Michael Burnham, The Measure of Morality, Part 2) would be intimidating and impressive, and then there's absolute horror-show that would be SNW Gorg (would be terrifying)!
He even has a bat'leth in the dream realm; perhaps the most Klingon thing ever aside from the end of TNG Birthright Part II.
I wish new trek would produce shows that focused on key events in Star Trek Lore but from the other powers' perspectives.
thats kinda what the games are for....We are human beings so we won't get a non human view. It defeats the point of the show. Maybe you would live a spin off....
I wish new trek would stop focusing on key events in star trek lore. Discovery was garbage, lets look for the progenitors work...yea, a topic of one episode became the whole point of all 10 episodes...no filler, just an indiana Jones like tv show that barely felt like star trek at all.
They were so abiguous that they rarely told you were they were or how far they traveled. It's just instantaneous travel...even picard was bad. Let me warp to a place days and days away, then warp back as if no time had passed at all....these writers are lazy and don't sound like they were the original workers...so we are only asking for garbage when we have people who didn't actually create the show working for it.
they just copy everything already done.
I mean that is what Section 31 will let us see
The Borg: built like a patchwork quilt.
when you said every species I was led to believe you would be starting with species 1 and then working your way through "every species the borg assimilated"!
I was worried about that, too.
Dodged a bullet there 😌
My theory is that the Borg don't even acquire all the brain knowledge of an individual they assimilate. From a neurological standpoint, the nanoprobes could infect the brain stem of say, a human, and pick up the electrical signals of neurons firing. But without the entirety of the consciousness of the individual, these memories or knowledge is simple electrical impulses. The Borg override the humans individuality, so accessing these memories is a bit hit and miss. Without a fully conscious and self-actialised individual, the knowledge and memories can't be access by brute force because they need to be accessed in accordance with how humans access them. Either through dreaming l, relaxation techniques, behavioural modification or hypnosis to name a few examples. That can't happen because the human is a drone of the collective. Their so called distinctiveness and knowledge can't consciously be access by the collective as a whole because without living as that individual, the rest of the collective would just seen images or experience thoughts or memories without context. This is how I believe the Borg receive their knowledge in most cases. They see glimpses perhaps of technology, ideas and thoughts without context and therefore must peice it together. By assimilating say 100k humans, they start building a more comprehensive picture or for want of a better term, a much larger section of a jig-saw when it comes to acquiring knowledge. From thousands, they can extrapolate technology, theoretical and applied experience by building this bigger image. But they can't just assimilate one person and gain every single bit of knowledge from them. Each person is a fragment of a whole. Which is probably why the Borg assimilate so many of a species, to gain this deeper knowledge.
Composite retroengineering of a sort.
So the Brunali is the equivalent to a fast food joint to the Borg? They pop out of their transwarp, look at the Burnali homeplanet and go: 'Sure, I could pop by for a quick snack', assimilate a few of them and then continue on their merry way, repeating this cycle every once in a while.
Kinda like how when you pass McDonalds on the way home from work and you don't feel like cooking, so you just pop by for a burger and some fries before heading out.
I’d love to see a video of what happens when a ship is assimilated.
I've been fascinated by the Borg for years. Voyager over used them, but whatever. So I was happy to see this video pop up
the borg are the star trek daleks, they will always be trotted out as the big bag again eventually
Voth come to Earth.
"We submit claimance of ancestry to this world."
Humans.
"So you're saying we have family in the delta quadrant?"
Borg.
"You will be..."
Humans and Voth.
"Oh shush you!"
Yeah I think the Klingons, Romulans, Breen, Cardassians, Tzenkethi, etc might have something to say about that, big powerful species just showing up in their backyard trying to say "we belong here this is ours we'll take what we want primates."
Also fact that by humans evolving on earth, legally voth could never claim earth alone, even ti such genetic proof form the voyage of the voyager
@@mikeohawk95 "Claim", no. Take, maybe.
The Voth in STO
"You will be Eliminated."
I have to wonder if the Tholians and/or The Breen have ever been or even could be assimmilated by The Borg in some manner.
With the Breen not having blood I'd assume they can't be assimilated.
Would the Tolians high body temperature melt the nanoprobes.
I'd assume it's possible they could reprogram the nanoprobes similar to what the EMH does to modify the nanoprobes to take out Species 8472 could be altered to assimilate non standard humanoids
@@thestanleys3657 yeah, its what I was thinking, its just a curious thought exercise as they have very advanced tech The Borg would likely be interested in getting their hands on.
In Prodigy they almost assimilated a Medusan. Without any need to even infect the body with nano probes.
@@ShikiKiryu the Borg probably think you can never have enough tech 🤤😅. The Tolian web tech would probably be desired by the Borg to help in subduing targets. I think I recall someone saying Breen ships are partially organic so maybe an issue there
I was wondering about that too. Also the founders, aquatic and lower gravity species.
this is one reason a followup on picard season 3 needs to happen. the federation knowing the borg are pretty much gone (not counting the jirati borg) need to go into their space and clean up the mess they left behind. Id pay to see a show about this
7:14 Unkown
A+ show today my friend!
I’d be interested in a video that covers ship security tactics generally
Two questions: Guinan's people had FTL tech in the late 1800's, earth time. Much earlier than a lot of species. So by the time that the Borg found them, that tech would be much more advanced than maybe even the Borg had? Though why they needed Star Fleets help to move survivors is unknown (also why Starfleet didn't ask who they were fleeing from is also a mystery worth looking into. Something tells me that Section 31 knew about the Borg long before The Enterprise D encountered them in person the first time).
Second: 7 of 9 was human with Borg technical implants. She wasn't "upgraded" with other species biological traits at all. She was young enough to be ungraded, as she was still a kid when captured. So do the Borg think humans are biologically superior?
Given that Section 31 was around during Enterprise-era in the 22nd Century in some form and the Arctic Encounter leftover from First Contact, they probably did.
That’s really not how a collective works…. Think of the individual drones like cells in a body. Any body requires many different kinds of cells, in this case they didn’t need to upgrade seven from being human because her function was “hot blonde babe” for communications purposes. I’m not exactly sure what tertiary adjunct of unimatrix 01 means…. I get the impression she was basically in the Queen’s chain of command
@@Matt-yg8ub "Tertiary" implies "third" (i.e. Primary, secondary, tertiary), so Seven was likely third in command within the central, primary unimatrix. A "unimatrix" being a term to describe both the massive structures that Borg construct as bases, and as the name for the twelve largest, cylindrical capital ships used by the Borg....so Seven was the third highest-ranking Borg in the Collective, stationed in either the "Borg capital city" or the Queen's flagship. Perhaps both.
@@GrymmSoul Yes but the fact that she was a tertiary adjunct means that she would’ve been the third representative of that unimatrix. realistically her title means nothing because it was made up by the writers and I don’t think they ever intended for it to mean anything specific, but you can tell by the later interactions between seven and the queen there had been a relationship between them.
Well given how easily Seven connected to the cube in Picard Season 1 "tertiary adjunct" probably made her one of the back-up queens since she already had the necessary implants to do the job.
Thanks for the explanation, whole species. Otherwise I would have thought this one would be 6 or 7 hours.
I live the pub Ric 😂 its what makes you a good youtuber and great content
In non cannon book the Hirogen were assimilated 110,000 years ago by an early version of the Borg then became nomadic hunters
Arturis's species were brilliant _idiots._
They were so capable, but decided to turtle and fight _a endless wave_ [800 Cubes in the end] when they had the tech to get a significant proportion of their species out of range.
A fleet of Quantum Slipstream ships could have taken them very far away from Borgspace, Arturis's ship bypassed the Borg armada and dropped out in the middle of his home system, so they could have gotten ships out.
Their amazing physical and mental abilities¹ as a species meant they could prosper anywhere else they set up shop. Just on an individual level they were a OP species even without their technology.
But that it took 800 Cubes to finally defeat them is a testament to their technology and power. Just a few large ships from Species 116 arriving in the Alpha Quadrant would have had a drastic effect on the balance of power. Especially decades earlier than the events of Voyager or even centuries - 116 is a low number. No one would be able to stop them setting up wherever they wanted.
They could have even gone the Voth route and have mobile city ships as their centre of power instead of settling on a new planet(s).
And that's not even taking into account their other technological achievements … particle synthesis sounds awesome. If they had anywhere near a equivalent level of biotechnology they could have also artificially brought their numbers back up with IVF/gene banks/growth tanks/genetic synthesis.
Far 'lesser' species came up with out of the box thinking in facing the Borg, perhaps while incredibly intelligent and advanced, they just were 'too logical?'
But Arturis was a schemer who came up with a convoluted plan, so they are/were capable of 'dirty tricks'.
¹ imagine a _sane_ member of their species joining any Starfleet crew.
They would become the _superhuman_ of the crew [Spock, Data, Odo, Kes/Seven of Nine] who has abilities far above a Human's.
"Captain, I'll get my multiple phaser wounds treated _after_ I finish extrapolating and decoding this ancient fragment of … done it.
Oh, and can you let maintenance know that a couple of dead Nausican pirates are stuck in the bulkheads of corridor 8 section 3? I threw them into the walls and their bodies broke through a jefferies hatch."
The video about what happens when star fleet loses a ship to the Borg is a great idea Rick!
This is easily the most horrific part of the borg, all these people that we know literally nothing about and probably never will becasue they fell total victim to the borg. Its lore that could definitely use expansion on. Having a series that focuses on one of these lost species ultimately futile struggle and assimilation would really bring back the horror factor of the Collective.
I would love to know which spezies is spezies 00001.
😅😂
the first borg
They created the Borg, the Borg controls them, the rest is history. Pretty much Species-1 are all dead
Would be the species that developed the tech that became the borg.
do you think the borg would assimilate an animal if it had something like, absurd regen, or resistence ti energy weapons to see how to replicate it, or would they just dissect it
I think they would assimilate if it had the neurological ability to serve as a drone. Otherwise, they would just dissect it to determine the physical traits they desired.
Something I always wondered was since the Borg assimilated Romulans and Klingons why didn't they develop cloaking technology?
I'd assume one of three reasons they don't use cloaking:
1. The technology is incompatible with the Borg's distributed power systems.
2. They find cloaking energy inefficient.
3.They do not need to use cloaking.
Why would they need cloaking technology? For the past 900 years they'd been able to assimilate thousands of species, and losses typically mean nothing to the Borg. Considering their technology is years ahead of Starfleets and resistance is almost always futile they have no need of cloaking technology.
actually we only ever saw one planet that the spatial trajector could go to but they said in the episode that it could go to many, so it's logical to assume that they could also use it to settle many other planets.
Great video
Thanks for this, great video :)
yes please make that video i am courius about what information there is
Kazon "what do you mean we're not good enough to assimilate!!!"
Great looking Romulan warbird.
The D'deridex Warbird? Specifically, a Legendary D'deridex Miracle Worker Warbird from Star Trek Online.
The D'deridex was the Romulan response to the Federation's Galaxy-class starships, serving as the Star Empire's capital ships long after the destruction of Hobus; while the Romulan Republic has delved into more modernized ship designs with innovative tech. The Republic, however, continues to use the D'deridex Warbirds that they could manage to steal, or which were brought in by captains defecting from the Tal Shiar-dominated imperial remnants, to the Romulan Republic.
In true Romulan fashion, the D'deridex was designed to be huge and imposing, specifically in comparison to Galaxy-class ships, in an endeavor to intimidate the crews of even Federation flagships.
nice vid thanks
While I don't want them to fully reveal the Borg's origins...
a good plot would be recovering remains of an ancient crash site on an unknown planet, and recoverin' primitive Borg corpses, thus just showin' us just a glimpse of their past, but not an origin.
I enjoy these sorts of comprehensive overview videos. Gotta love the Borg, lol. Thank you for the video.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
I was disappointed that the kazons couldn't be assimilated because of the tech they stole were insufficient
Kazon could be assimilated, they just had no value to the Borg, because they sucked.
Imagine being so worthless the borg don't even want to use you as a bullet sponge lol
.....and because the Kazon don't possess any beneficial biological traits either; stating that assimilating Kazon would have a deleterious affect on the Collective, setting the Borg backwards from achieving "perfection." Assimilating Kazon isn't only useless to the Borg, it would essentially devolve them.
The Borg are scary, but you _terrified_ me by opening on a shot of an _Oberth class._
Oberth? Pretty sure that was a Grissom-class ship. The front of the hull of the Oberth comes to a distinct point, while the Grissom sports a much more rounded design. In fact, both ships have each other as customizable skins...so it literally could be an Oberth set to look like a Grissom, or is just the Grissom......and I feel like Rick wouldn't be bothering to fly around in a Tier 1 Science vessel, when he no doubt has the T6 Grissom. To be fair, either way, I'd be terrified to fight a Borg fleet in either rinky-dink science ship, with its hull made of cardboard, hope, and desperation, lol.
For the mighty algorithm gods 🍻
A ship assimilation video would be cool.
Yes id love any and all stuff on the borg and there collective. Like what they do when they assimilate a ship and its crew.
Really liked this one. Fascinating and sad. ty Rick.
Right off the bat, a ton of Borg Sphere arriving upon a single Federation vessel.
@7:16, you wrote "unkown" instead of unknown.
High quality video regardless.
Missed opportunity to have your voice change into a borg voice slowly over the course of the video!
Forgot Klingons. They got at least one bird of prey as we see a Klingon drone on the enterprise E during first contact
While they screwed up the borg from their original better concept, the Borg certainly did innovate without assimilation. It's been shown many times at least in battle.
What STO mission is this at 10:15?
I've not seen this one before?
That's the latest version of the main Federation tutorial. It's been redone several times now.
@@spacebase1119 when was that added?
I've not seen it before?
1:16 that’s the species whom invented particle synthesis, and means to build better tech such as the dauntless cruiser
Its interesting that they cannot assimilate a technology just from a single vessel, but would need the entire species to get their engineers, scientists, and innovators in order to properly assimilate the technology.
UNKOWN!
Hey Rick sorry I'm late, I suffered a quantum dilation earlier.😅
This should be renamed to “all knows species blessed with a glimpse of perfection”. Borgification would be great
NPC
@@ymishaus2266 The worst part is, you'd have people on Earth today insane enough to want to join the Borg
It would be interesting to know who species 001 has been/would be.
Klingon, telaxian, bajoran, have all been mentioned or shown also.
I personally wonder if a member of the Q has/could be assimilated. They have a rule "Don't provoke the Borg" so I think there has been some encounters.
Nightmare fuel: Assimilated Hortas...😱😫
The assimilation of the Videans means the Borg know how to cure The Phage. They just don't because they're The Borg
Why didnt the rescued El Aurians notify Starfleet about the Borg? I still dont understand. Gannon was involved with starfleet for a a few decades and didnt say anything till the Borg Cube parked in front of the Enterprise D in the J25 system.
Guinan was the only El'aurian that had that ability. She got it after being in the Nexus.
Species 874 is a mood.
If the Borg were ever to send a ship to the Star Wars galaxy, the Hutts would be of interest, if only for the biological defenses that the Hutts have
If they got a time lord or time lady in the collective, they would be true master of time travel
Question do are the Borg species numbers by technology or just being the x species assimilated
The shocking thing is how many humans they assimilated in the Delta Quadrant.
This makes the Borg even more horrific.
I never understood how any species in the delta quad exists and how they haven't all unified against the borg.
What about the sikarians? The borg assimilated the special trajector technology in ST Picard
7:05 yes please.
"Don't provoke the BORG!" - Q
I'd love to know what happened to the Borg Collective that Chakotay restarted??
7:13 - heehee ... "Unkown"
7:14 *Unknown
If they am assimilate the Medusans, can they assimilate energy beings or races like 10- c?
I cannot remember where this line took place but I could swear that I remember Seven of Nine telling someone on Voyager that there was a species the Borg encountered in which this species was already considered perfect and to assimilate would “detract them from perfection.” Does anyone know what episode this was?
Think you might have misremembered. She was talking about Kazon and that they were inferior and would detract from the perfection of the hive. Not sure of episode.
I do remember what she said about the Kazon but that is not what I was thinking of.
She spoke of a physics and energy source that the board had tried to develop notice the omega molecule by saying that it was absolute perfection and that it was somehow the integration of all of its components in a way the board treated with an almost though she did not use the word religious zeal
@@keithtorgersen9664Now I'm trying to remember, I might have to go a voyager binge now to find it.
I wonder where the BORG local (hand?) came from? I imagine, it's based on the original civilization that became the first BORG ("Source 0" / by their own doing or from an outside source), but why does it still exist, its meaning, if any is long forgotten? ;-) I believe there's no original BORG ("Source 0") alive and have been extinct for untold centuries?
I still think the earliest Voth with warp didn't get past that Time dylation issues so the Voth aren't truely 75 million years old just a few 100,000 or less by their own calendar so like 30,000 thought years in the galaxy may of only be say 5 years for them
Which species do you think the borg wouldn't be able to assimilate like e.g the Voth
You forgot the Klingons... they have been seen as drones
Imagine having to neuter your technological developments because you live next to the Borg
What happened to the Borg by the time Discovery arrives in the future?
i always wondered why the el aurians never told the federation about the borg or if they did why nothing was ever done
Think if the Borg runs into Homeworld's beast.
I'm surprised they don't go after Dominion cloning tech.
Is there any ny other species than 8472 that the borg can't assimilate?
how would it be when the bark from Star Trek and the Cybermen from Doctor Who swapped universes
I thought telaxians were ignored by the borg as assimilation would be a negative to the borg, or something like that when seven was first introduced to the show.
i think that is the Kazons. I seem to remember 7 saying that Telaxians make good tactical drones.
@@hughsmith7504 I thought it was physical labor drones.
I really wish we could fet a remake of the star trek armada games with dominion and have it handle massive battles