What an excellent video. That long axis coming from the shoulder IS the correct power source, rather than the Radius and Ulna rolling around each other only. So good John.
This lesson was one of the best I've seen on the net. It was easy to comprehend, your demonstrations were clear cut and explained nicely, the visuals were done well, and the drills you gave with advice was dead on accurate and very helpful. I'm impressed. This is from a former USPTA guy with perfect scores on my playing and teaching tests. I'm going to recommend this video to people I know who could use this to improve their service motions, whether they like it or not. 😂😂👍
This is the best description of the mechanics of pronation I have seen. As a new assistant high school coach I struggle to teach this and find a lot of resistance based on players’ lack of understanding why. I’m looking forward to trying this.
Thanks so much, and totally agree. In fact, I am offering a free serve assessment. If interested, here is a link to sign-up: performanceplustennis.com/?ff_landing=17. Best, John
You hit the nail on the head at 9:12, "the ball is a distraction." I discovered that when I tried to serve with my eyes shut--that confirmed my toss inconsistency, but it also helped me know where my body parts were. This lesson fits right in with "The Inner Game of Tennis". THANK YOU!! Jeff PS. My greatest struggle: "chasing" a bad toss and losing technique. Short term goals: learn to place the ball in the strike zone and acquire the discipline to recognize a bad toss and to restart the serve.
Hi Paul, Thanks for your feedback. I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel. Also, I offering a free serve assessment this month. Click here if you would like me to review your serve: performanceplustennis.com/?ff_landing=17. Best, John
This is what i looking for ! many videos about serve is always about : how many degree your body , how many degree your leg , how many degree your rotation and so on. but they dont show what to do at the moment of impact
Here is a video I published 8 years ago on wrist snap and pronation, which may help you: ua-cam.com/video/OxaR-mMGvDo/v-deo.htmlsi=lBLPY9Ay4vUS6Hnn Unfortunately I never produced the product ideas presented in the video, but you mock one up quite easily. Let me know if you have questions. Best, John
@ Hi John Thank you so much for the reply. I am now unsure if I actually use my wrist as my technique is very similar to your advice. Maybe, like Boris my, what I thought was a snap, happens after the contact. My serve is ok and opponents do comment on my serve, not much else mind. Thanks again. I will take this on. Happy New Year
hi john thank you for that so good video! i have a question though because you did not relate the pronation topic to the different serves: on my flat serve i pronate fully, while on the slice serve it appears to me that i pronate into contact but then no more. it feels ok for me but sometimes i wonder if this might be wrong and i should work on full pronation on slice serves... all the best from germany! (maybe a good video, the pronation with regard on the different serves?)
Thank you John for these steps. As a player who wasn’t coached, I decided to film myself and noticed that even though my racket drop was good, my racket opened up way too early and there was no pronation. In your experience how long does it take a player to develop this skill? Does it take longer for a rec player who has served the wrong way for years and has to overcome muscle memory.
Hi Zachary, Thanks for your questions. It does take time. This is one of the more challenging changes to make, but it can be done! The more you rehearse without the ball, the better, until you really start to feel and produce the right motion. Good luck and keep me updated on your progress. Best, John
Pronation is (fairly) simple. 1) get full extension at contact 2) keep your edge as long as possible and 3) accelerate dammit! If you get enough racket head speed, and do the first two, you will naturally pronate. You have to. Beginners and intermediates may tense up and decelerate and that gets in the way of what should naturally happen....assuming your form and toss are proper too. big ifs I know.
@@jraymond6637 thanks for your great question. Actually pronation happens on every serve, but it occurs into contact for both flat and slice serves. Pronation naturally occurs after contact for top spin serve.
@@PerformancePlusTennis it worked. The most important thing for me is what you say about hold light and feel weight of the racquet head (very very imp. for me) and then bending the knees for Proper trophy position … I had plantar fasciitis so was having tough time loading for the trophy position…
What an excellent video. That long axis coming from the shoulder IS the correct power source, rather than the Radius and Ulna rolling around each other only. So good John.
…From about 10:13 - 10:20, might be the most important 7 seconds ever, in learning what the serve motion is, as far as the arm portion.
Thank you so much for the great feedback! Best, John
This lesson was one of the best I've seen on the net. It was easy to comprehend, your demonstrations were clear cut and explained nicely, the visuals were done well, and the drills you gave with advice was dead on accurate and very helpful. I'm impressed. This is from a former USPTA guy with perfect scores on my playing and teaching tests. I'm going to recommend this video to people I know who could use this to improve their service motions, whether they like it or not. 😂😂👍
Thank you so much for your kinds words and support! I hope you find all the content here on the channel to be of value to you! Best regards, John
The palm slap exercise is such a good idea and I can practice it anywhere during my day. Thank you!
Thanks for the feedback Telmo. Keep me updated on your progress. Thanks, John
I have two coaches teaching me how to do the pronation, but this video is far better than anything.
This is the best description of the mechanics of pronation I have seen. As a new assistant high school coach I struggle to teach this and find a lot of resistance based on players’ lack of understanding why. I’m looking forward to trying this.
Hi Bill, Thanks for the great feedback. Keep me posted on your team’s progress. Best, John
The best explanation abou pronation. Gongrats
Thank you! I hope you’re benefiting from all the content here on the channel! Kindly, John
This is such a detailed helpful guide on probation. I want to add that everyone should be recording themselves to help with progression
Thanks so much, and totally agree. In fact, I am offering a free serve assessment. If interested, here is a link to sign-up: performanceplustennis.com/?ff_landing=17. Best, John
You hit the nail on the head at 9:12, "the ball is a distraction." I discovered that when I tried to serve with my eyes shut--that confirmed my toss inconsistency, but it also helped me know where my body parts were. This lesson fits right in with "The Inner Game of Tennis". THANK YOU!! Jeff
PS. My greatest struggle: "chasing" a bad toss and losing technique. Short term goals: learn to place the ball in the strike zone and acquire the discipline to recognize a bad toss and to restart the serve.
Awesome comments and contribution to the lesson...thank you! Best, John
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Best collection of service videos l have ever seen.😊
Thanks a lot 😊
John, really good video here.
Thank you, Bob! I hope you are doing well! Best, John
I really liked the explanation you presented in this lesson for serving with pronation. Thank you!
Hi Paul, Thanks for your feedback. I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel. Also, I offering a free serve assessment this month. Click here if you would like me to review your serve: performanceplustennis.com/?ff_landing=17. Best, John
Brilliant teacher !
Thank you! I hope you benefit from all the content here on the channel! Best, John
GREAT Lesson. I thought this was going to be boring. IT WASN'T!!!!!
Waw the best explanation that I see about the serve . thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful!
This is what i looking for !
many videos about serve is always about : how many degree your body , how many degree your leg , how many degree your rotation and so on. but they dont show what to do at the moment of impact
Glad to know the video was helpful to you! Please be sure to check out my serving playlist for more lessons. Thanks, John.
Excellent video!
I like your way to teach, very good drills.
Thank you very much!
These are great drills! They immediately helped the pronation on my serve.
Hi Mark, I am glad to hear it! Keep me updated on your progress. Best, John
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I like your video thankyou.what size tension u use and what kind string u use.
Hi and thanks! I use Wilson Sensation at 48 lbs. Best, John
great video, john. particularly liked the picking up the ball professionally which I had never linked to pronation (and never been able to do!)
Thanks for the feedback, Paul ! How’s that Ball pick up coming along? Best, John.
Easy steps to follow. 👍. Also great that you don’t use the term wrist snap which implies to use wrist flexion
Thanks Jason! Best, John
Thanks, really useful tips...a lot of them you can do at home
Very good
Great advice. My serve is ok but this will help me make so much better. Unclear on using your wrist which I know i do. Should I stop this. Great vid
Here is a video I published 8 years ago on wrist snap and pronation, which may help you: ua-cam.com/video/OxaR-mMGvDo/v-deo.htmlsi=lBLPY9Ay4vUS6Hnn Unfortunately I never produced the product ideas presented in the video, but you mock one up quite easily. Let me know if you have questions. Best, John
@ Hi John Thank you so much for the reply. I am now unsure if I actually use my wrist as my technique is very similar to your advice. Maybe, like
Boris my, what I thought was a snap, happens after the contact. My serve is ok and opponents do comment on my serve, not much else mind. Thanks again. I will take this on. Happy New Year
@@peterrandell8519 Thanks for the update and feedback! Happy New Year!
hi john thank you for that so good video! i have a question though because you did not relate the pronation topic to the different serves: on my flat serve i pronate fully, while on the slice serve it appears to me that i pronate into contact but then no more. it feels ok for me but sometimes i wonder if this might be wrong and i should work on full pronation on slice serves... all the best from germany! (maybe a good video, the pronation with regard on the different serves?)
Hi, I have made a video in response to your question. It will publish soon! Best, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis great! perfect!!!
Good tips, thanks
Thanks Hal. I hope you are doing well! Best, John
Class!👍💪🎾
Thank you! Best, John
I'm a QB in football and this helped so much with understanding pronation.
Awesome! Thanks, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis haha it isn't john but still thanks
Thank you John for these steps. As a player who wasn’t coached, I decided to film myself and noticed that even though my racket drop was good, my racket opened up way too early and there was no pronation. In your experience how long does it take a player to develop this skill? Does it take longer for a rec player who has served the wrong way for years and has to overcome muscle memory.
Hi Zachary, Thanks for your questions. It does take time. This is one of the more challenging changes to make, but it can be done! The more you rehearse without the ball, the better, until you really start to feel and produce the right motion. Good luck and keep me updated on your progress. Best, John
Pronation is (fairly) simple. 1) get full extension at contact 2) keep your edge as long as possible and 3) accelerate dammit! If you get enough racket head speed, and do the first two, you will naturally pronate. You have to. Beginners and intermediates may tense up and decelerate and that gets in the way of what should naturally happen....assuming your form and toss are proper too. big ifs I know.
Hi Will, Thanks for your feedback and comments...very useful contribution to the video! Best, John
Loved to learn how to pick the ball up from the floor 😂
We will do a UA-cam short on this topic - Randy
Hello John. Can I ask you if high level players pronate their arms/ shoulders on a slice serve, or do they supinate on a slice serve?
Hi Peter, Thanks for reaching out with a great question. I will address this in my video that will be released Friday morning. Stay tuned! Best, John
I have never played tennis before but for some reason I just feel like I would excel in it
Go for it!
Pronation is mainly for flat serve right ? For slice serve and kick serve, I feel it is hard to add pronation
@@jraymond6637 thanks for your great question. Actually pronation happens on every serve, but it occurs into contact for both flat and slice serves. Pronation naturally occurs after contact for top spin serve.
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I’m 48 can I still achieve this? It will
feel so great to achieve it
Hi Nirav, Yes you absolutely can achieve it! Follow the instructions and practice drills...you will get there! Best, John
@@PerformancePlusTennis your videos have been the most useful of all the videos out there. Pls keep posting. Thnx
@@PerformancePlusTennis it worked. The most important thing for me is what you say about hold light and feel weight of the racquet head (very very imp. for me) and then bending the knees for
Proper trophy position … I had plantar fasciitis so was having tough time loading for the trophy position…
Take care of that Plantar issue! Are you getting physical therapy? Best, John @@niravdesai7
@@PerformancePlusTennis yes thanks. I’m taking care of it
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