The 2024 BMW M2 is fine, you guys are just mean

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  • The BMW M2 was my favorite modern BMW ever made. However the newest on is a little bit bigger, heavier, and well...might not look the best for everybody. So let's talk about it.
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  • @ThatDudeinBlue
    @ThatDudeinBlue  Місяць тому +3

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    • @davect01
      @davect01 Місяць тому

      Oh hell no.
      I know you gotta have sponsers but these betting apps are notoriously bad

    • @mazda_miata_
      @mazda_miata_ Місяць тому

      @@davect01money is money, let him get his bread

  • @kevinmartinez2548
    @kevinmartinez2548 Місяць тому +82

    It's incredible how BMW made a car that is both over & under styled

    • @Bmwstephen
      @Bmwstephen Місяць тому +3

      It’s incredible that bmw brought back scion tc and threw an M badge on it

    • @Acer435
      @Acer435 Місяць тому

      @@Bmwstephenbut scion TC is a great car tho, as a bmw owner and enthusiast

  • @sambear6079
    @sambear6079 Місяць тому +113

    You would think the previous M2 is the newer one if you looked at both...

    • @sirspeedsalot
      @sirspeedsalot Місяць тому +14

      Nah , the older m2 looks mad ugly tbh this is the first m2 that looks good to me .

    • @Unicornpirate
      @Unicornpirate Місяць тому

      @@sirspeedsalot You have garbage taste then. You probably think the Pontiac Aztec looks good too

    • @smamq
      @smamq Місяць тому +54

      ​@@sirspeedsalot You're definitely in the minority lol

    • @karolmaciejewski340
      @karolmaciejewski340 Місяць тому +4

      I like G87 looks , and it's amazing all-rounder

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@sirspeedsalot yeah..... I think thats just you

  • @alanhall9477
    @alanhall9477 Місяць тому +45

    Driving the new M2 the best way I can describe it is the love child of an American muscle car and a 718 Cayman. I was blown away by how nice these cars are!

  • @CJsOutOfRum
    @CJsOutOfRum Місяць тому +86

    I really appreciate the low poly model that they shipped this year. Maybe we can get the high Res version next year!?

    • @Friedsalad
      @Friedsalad Місяць тому +10

      Gotta pay the subscription fee for the high res

    • @andrewames3748
      @andrewames3748 Місяць тому +2

      I actually kinda like this year's M2. Not a fan of the M3 and M4, they both look huge and really don't like the giant kidney grilles.

    • @foxvbowser
      @foxvbowser Місяць тому

      2024 M240i* 😅

  • @BIGG.5r
    @BIGG.5r Місяць тому +69

    It’s giving dodge magnum vibes 😂😂😂

  • @VitaGrandis
    @VitaGrandis Місяць тому +134

    Looks like a straight up box

    • @exoedge6322
      @exoedge6322 Місяць тому +31

      In person they’re killer

    • @garythecyclingnerd6219
      @garythecyclingnerd6219 Місяць тому +11

      Hey at least it doesn’t have the M3’s beaver teeth.

    • @cobaltlukather9045
      @cobaltlukather9045 Місяць тому +21

      so everyone screaming "just make it like the E30" is complaining that...its like the E30?

    • @zolztizio21
      @zolztizio21 Місяць тому +7

      So did the E30 M3

    • @ThatDudeinBlue
      @ThatDudeinBlue  Місяць тому +26

      #cardboardmod

  • @speeeding
    @speeeding Місяць тому +41

    This car and the M3/M4 will be looked back as BMW's "fried egg" era of design.

    • @ExileXCross
      @ExileXCross Місяць тому +6

      Someone has clearly dated themselves, that milestone has come and gone with the Chris Bangle-era BMW.

    • @speeeding
      @speeeding Місяць тому +4

      @@ExileXCross Design is cyclical and not linear, which is the reason why history repeats itself.

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Місяць тому

      ICE is going away, no "looking back on"

    • @JacquelineLanceTenor
      @JacquelineLanceTenor Місяць тому +2

      That's an insult to fried eggs 😂

    • @TehNiCoLaS
      @TehNiCoLaS 13 днів тому

      @@JacquelineLanceTenor will never be as bad as the early 2000s porsches cracked egg headlights, this new m2 is beautiful

  • @CrispyRounds
    @CrispyRounds Місяць тому +11

    Saw this in the press release awhile back, and there was a certain angle that made it look like the last generation Scion TC and I cant unsee it.
    At least it seems like a blast to drive.

  • @gadgetguy99
    @gadgetguy99 Місяць тому +17

    Loved this car from the second I first saw it. I wish the M2 came in Thundernight Metallic like the M240i.

    • @nickwong3054
      @nickwong3054 Місяць тому +1

      Such a sexy color

    • @FR3SK010
      @FR3SK010 Місяць тому

      I agree, I’d wrap it in TM the next day if got one

  • @ExistUNDRGROUND
    @ExistUNDRGROUND Місяць тому +26

    Pretty bold of BMW to make a new Scion TC

    • @static7985
      @static7985 Місяць тому +5

      i cant unsee it now

  • @allantilley3716
    @allantilley3716 Місяць тому +3

    You DO NOT have to be parked to change those settings. The controls are easy to figure out in no time

  • @nathantroutman4728
    @nathantroutman4728 Місяць тому +38

    Front bumper has a aftermarket look to it

    • @strykerman7888
      @strykerman7888 Місяць тому +1

      Even the headlights look aftermarket.

    • @CutACrow
      @CutACrow Місяць тому +3

      Mandella effect. You're thinking of the BIG SNIFF fix which was a aftermarket bumper.

    • @Dinrog
      @Dinrog 14 днів тому +1

      from 2002...

  • @pennycopperhatch9315
    @pennycopperhatch9315 Місяць тому +2

    These Dashboards with Superglued screens on them look like the Interior designers DGAF at all....Makes the whole overall dashboard look horrible...especially on a Bimmer....
    The previous M2 Comp was DOPE!..

  • @davect01
    @davect01 Місяць тому +3

    At least the kept the grill small
    Exterior kind of looks like a WRX.
    Using the screen to control everything is a trend that needs to die. I can get a ticket for using my phone but now they want us to touch a screen and go through multiple menus to do the most simple of things

  • @S2kTi
    @S2kTi Місяць тому +4

    I had a 2019 M2C with a 6 speed. Loved it. Such a beast. Was really looking forward to the new one until it was announced.. couldn't do it. Went with a 981 GTS instead and didn't look back.

  • @Thinginator
    @Thinginator Місяць тому +2

    This car looks interesting and unique, and the past 20 years of previous BMWs (with the exception of the i8 and i3) were utterly boring to look at, fight me. Congratulations BMW, you finally made a non-hybrid that doesn't look like a Camry with a mustache! Good for you. Still would rather avoid BMWs because I don't trust their long-term reliability at all, but this is the most appealing thing they've made in decades IMO.

  • @ike2010
    @ike2010 Місяць тому +6

    The bolted on widescreen display on the dash is lazy design. The previous generation F series had a much nicer and more integrated dash. It's even worse in the X series because it's bigger. Hate the lack of physical buttons. I own a couple of BMW's and seriously thinking about ditching the brand because the design is so poor. Love the manual though.

  • @Slade.
    @Slade. Місяць тому +2

    Your titles always have a negative spin on them. I get it, a negative title will get more clicks but it’s disheartening, especially when you are such a positive legit guy. Instead of saying “does the manual
    BMW M2 actually suck?”

  • @thedarkgreenvanman
    @thedarkgreenvanman Місяць тому +2

    So apparently I’m the only guy who think it looks fricken amazing. Reminds me of the show Nascar Racers

    • @sirspeedsalot
      @sirspeedsalot Місяць тому +2

      I'm right there with you , this is the first m2 that I actually find attractive, the previous ones look horrible to me so I always preferred the m4 . Until now , this thing is sexy.

  • @TheRacingJoker
    @TheRacingJoker Місяць тому +22

    Lego front bumper 😂 that said I like BMW. But the M4 GT3 is pretty much the only modern BMW I actually really like. That and the M8 GTE

  • @Lethal_Venom
    @Lethal_Venom Місяць тому +5

    I was looking at getting one of the previous M2's but ended up getting another Terminator Cobra again

  • @Losersluck_
    @Losersluck_ Місяць тому +2

    I’m a big fan of the styling. Reminds me of my 325is e30.

  • @blu_is500
    @blu_is500 Місяць тому +1

    Amazing performance, but yeesh...the styling. Referencing the Lego blocks is the perfect characterization! 😀 Thanks for posting!

  • @MoonRammer
    @MoonRammer Місяць тому +5

    I genuienly love the new m2.

  • @Grimm-Gaming
    @Grimm-Gaming Місяць тому +3

    At least it looks way better then the new m4 and up

  • @MuddyTubMedia
    @MuddyTubMedia Місяць тому +3

    I love it honestly. Loved it since day 1. I want one

  • @user-dg7gn4qk1y
    @user-dg7gn4qk1y 5 днів тому +1

    absolutely love my 2024 M2 i can't find one thing about it to fault. i installed after market grills for front and undercarriage. i have friends with 911 and corvette and as far as i am concerned they can keep them. BMW out did themselves on this model, i might buy an additional one, 2025 in a different color !

  • @karolmaciejewski340
    @karolmaciejewski340 Місяць тому +1

    I really like how this car looks

  • @ROKRSDRIVECLUB
    @ROKRSDRIVECLUB Місяць тому +1

    I had fun in the one I reviewed. The 6 speed was a little meh but hella fun!

  • @shannacollins4741
    @shannacollins4741 Місяць тому

    Ok David good question for you would you rather get a Cadillac CT5 V Blackwing or a BMW M2 Comp ?

  • @crackerjack3253
    @crackerjack3253 Місяць тому

    I thing the purpose of the exterior design is to make it look a little retro which I think looks cool

  • @CalebBaker500
    @CalebBaker500 Місяць тому +1

    Saw one recently and that rear end is a SHELF.

  • @pixelguitarman
    @pixelguitarman Місяць тому +1

    I like this M2 because the design reminds me of the E36

  • @Boooost704
    @Boooost704 Місяць тому

    Need to see you drive a tuned m340 on the channel

  • @blahblahblah-jz4en
    @blahblahblah-jz4en 18 днів тому

    Love the g87,, great to see bmw make an actual sports car and leave behind the dark ages of life less sedans that appeared to have been inspired by the toyota corolla design team. There's a reason people have always just said "its a beemer", because for the last 20 years every bmw has looked the same. Fantastic to see bmw get back to their roots and make a stand alone killer car, just love it.

  • @imSchwaggy
    @imSchwaggy Місяць тому +6

    The f87 m2 is the best looking modern bmw. Since the e92 m3.
    If money wasn't an issue I'd put the g87 m2 drivetrain in the f82 that would be sick.

    • @cowboi9042
      @cowboi9042 Місяць тому

      f80 is the best looking wym

    • @imSchwaggy
      @imSchwaggy Місяць тому +1

      @cowboi9042 f80 is a sedan 3 series so it's automatically ugly. Sedans are for 5 or 7 series. Nothing else.

    • @cowboi9042
      @cowboi9042 Місяць тому

      @@imSchwaggy i happen to like the m3 sedan it has character, the coupe may be a bit better tho

  • @trackntrail2869
    @trackntrail2869 Місяць тому

    You don't need to stop to go into sport mode. Just program whatever you want to the M1 M2 buttons and you can switch to them at any time.

  • @EZ_EZzzz
    @EZ_EZzzz Місяць тому

    That’s great man 👍👍 nice

  • @ApolloGuise
    @ApolloGuise Місяць тому +1

    crazy how the true elephant in the room wasn't addressed, the weight. the thing is a boat compared to the last gen and just a few pounds shy of the m3/m4. You can feel it.

  • @JohnJohnson-dv1ds
    @JohnJohnson-dv1ds Місяць тому

    I’ve had a new 230i for a year now. Great car, and with O to 50 in fiveish seconds, it’s kept me out of jail.

  • @brandonchism6960
    @brandonchism6960 Місяць тому +1

    As an E36 owner, hearing this car described as a box is laughable 😂

  • @brelaxed13
    @brelaxed13 Місяць тому +8

    I own this car and have 16,000 miles on it. iDrive 8 is best infotainment on the market. It is so well thought out, so easy to use, is fast and looks amazing. I get compliments on my car almost every day. People love it in real life. Since everyone in the internet is a sheep, it is the contrary.

    • @RCCOWolke
      @RCCOWolke Місяць тому +3

      It looks fantastic in real life. I can’t wait to get mine next year!

    • @yusuf90s
      @yusuf90s Місяць тому +1

      i got my 2017 m2, and yeah people love it and I love it. Looking sharp, going fast. I'm using daily its so chill.

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Місяць тому

      Compared to an Emira it looks really bad, and yes I've seen one in person

    • @asthecrowflies1201
      @asthecrowflies1201 Місяць тому

      ​@@fzr1000981 cool story

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 Місяць тому

      @asthecrowflies1201 reality....the M2 is a relatively good value but lines are fugly and only the blind deny it

  • @ryan4888
    @ryan4888 Місяць тому

    changing AC on the new BMW screen is one button press to get to menu (it's fine, definitely the least offensive of new car screens imo)

  • @RayFalco814
    @RayFalco814 25 днів тому

    Great video. Thanks man

  • @TBIRD0625
    @TBIRD0625 Місяць тому +10

    I've seen a few in person now and in different colors........ it's just not a good looking car. I don't understand how people buy so many of these new cars with how terrible so many designs are these days. Performance wise doesn't even matter to me if a car is that ugly

    • @TheBasher-_-
      @TheBasher-_- Місяць тому

      Idk it ĥonestly looks stunning to me. Very retro cool

    • @Ryan-rp1es
      @Ryan-rp1es Місяць тому

      Like most cars if you lower it with a front lip it’s looks much better

  • @jeast417
    @jeast417 Місяць тому +2

    While I don't like the boxy design that much this is the m car I would go for

  • @NiteRider165
    @NiteRider165 Місяць тому

    The original M2 with the tuned 340i engine is my favorite. The sound and the feeling are the best

    • @gedam131
      @gedam131 Місяць тому +1

      You mean the N55? I own this M2 and i can confirm, it’s great!

    • @NiteRider165
      @NiteRider165 Місяць тому

      @@gedam131 yeah not the S55 motor, if only people knew you can get a 340i M package and then get a stage 2 Dinan Tune and some better shocks and you got yourself an M2 Sedan but better

  • @sayerherrera4482
    @sayerherrera4482 Місяць тому +3

    I think the new m2 is actually badass you guys will wish you bought one someday

    • @Mattxwill1
      @Mattxwill1 Місяць тому

      You can already see some admitting the looks growing on them. I have been in the car scene for 30 years and rarely do people like the new models, then lo and behold after a while after the new model comes out "the last model was so much better". This happens all the time especially with BMWs and Audi's.

  • @emiliomoreno682
    @emiliomoreno682 Місяць тому +1

    I really like the m2 especially the new one ofc I love the last one it is and has been a great car while I think that people shit on it it’s not deserved it is a cool ass car it is the car I want to buy because it’s kinda cheap in Mexico(it is built and designed here) abt $90,000usd or $1.6million pesos

  • @brandonmarks6035
    @brandonmarks6035 Місяць тому +1

    i dont like bmw but i really like the way this one looks idk y id like to own one eventually

  • @reformedartist8528
    @reformedartist8528 Місяць тому +1

    Just bought an F87 M2 competition. Worth the penny though the new one was not too bad. It's good but it feels still heavier like you're driving a camaro or muscle car more than a lightweight car.

    • @blackfish4674
      @blackfish4674 Місяць тому

      Not too bad? Lol it shits on the f87

    • @reformedartist8528
      @reformedartist8528 Місяць тому

      @@blackfish4674 it’s better performance wise in modding and straight line speed but it still feels like a heavy car compared to the old car. But it’s my opinion

  • @somedude9934
    @somedude9934 Місяць тому +1

    I mean I love it but its also my dream car so I may be a bit biased.

  • @scottyk329
    @scottyk329 Місяць тому

    Its the E30 reincarnated. Same boxiness same flares. Looks way more like an E30 than the last gen M2

  • @chuckcribbs3398
    @chuckcribbs3398 Місяць тому

    Honestly, getting the base M2 for around $65k is a bargain in my opinion. Probably the best car in the range for 450 HP. And it’s an M car.

  • @ThechronocrosserII
    @ThechronocrosserII Місяць тому

    I was like, "no way it looks like a Scion Tc". *googles scion tc*. "....oh". Funny cause I drove a 2nd gen tc for 7 years and when i first saw these cars, I fell in love with the styling....makes sense.
    Also funny, i saw this car on my way to work before seeing this video...ya know....wealthy college students.

  • @johngormley3908
    @johngormley3908 Місяць тому

    I don’t think it looks awful especially in the blue. What is horrible is the interior ergonomics

  • @frannaaaa44
    @frannaaaa44 Місяць тому

    Is it awd yet?

  • @_clutch_3634
    @_clutch_3634 Місяць тому

    Audi from the side, Scion from back, magnum in front

  • @Kjetil523
    @Kjetil523 Місяць тому

    Modern car makers are sadly stuck thinking these screens are nice or cool. They suck so bad and they are gonna date the cars like hell in a few years

  • @gladdy02
    @gladdy02 Місяць тому +1

    "the looks have grown on me" is UA-cam code for, this thing is hideous but I have to be nice 🙂

  • @oxolotleman7226
    @oxolotleman7226 Місяць тому +6

    I like the look tbh.

  • @Mp-jw1qg
    @Mp-jw1qg Місяць тому

    the automatic one sucks too. my 2023 m40i xdrive is bone stock with no tune, just 3 gallons of e85 and i destroy the automatic m2 in dig race and from a roll. my neighbor has the m2 and i got the m40i. the m240i is lighter, stops in shorter distance and acclerates like the m2 wishes it could with a tune.

  • @emperorbobarino
    @emperorbobarino Місяць тому

    Bosnian Ape Society was right. The next one is going to be a boulder with a rondel crudely carved on the front. MSRP $150k (market adjustments may apply). Sign up now for your 30 year car mortgage with BMW Financial Services today!

  • @a_catfish5180
    @a_catfish5180 Місяць тому

    I love the looks of the g80 but the new m2 is just fine for me, yesterday I saw one and it’s just a bit too bulky for me

  • @morgangrant5180
    @morgangrant5180 Місяць тому +3

    Picked up one of these a couple weeks ago.bim loving it. It's like I'm shallow Hal. I like the look. It doesn't look like other cars. It doesn't need to be the same formula as the e46 or any other generation. If you want one of those or an e92?. Buy one of them while you still can. Had one of each. They're great cars, but I've moved on. What it lacks in feel it makes up for in raw power and modern comfort.

  • @averycoolturtle
    @averycoolturtle 11 днів тому

    I like the way they look, at least more than the other new BMWs

  • @xubious
    @xubious Місяць тому

    You know what’s cooler than this? The ranger raptor

  • @BMWROYAL
    @BMWROYAL Місяць тому

    2:50 the m3 and m4 are also manual

  • @RS4xDave
    @RS4xDave Місяць тому

    I’m sure this car can run circles around the previous gen M2 but man was that car gorgeous compared to this thing (emphasis on thing)

  • @BlackWater6937
    @BlackWater6937 Місяць тому

    It’s an engineering marvel that they got the M2 to weigh the same as the Mustang GT. Lol

  • @dnice362
    @dnice362 Місяць тому

    This car o my looks good in black

  • @Jtbg80
    @Jtbg80 Місяць тому

    Glad bmw is still making manuals but tbh the manual isn’t good and I can see why somebody would go for a automatic. Still a really good and fun car tho overall.

  • @Masterphr-og7db
    @Masterphr-og7db Місяць тому

    I love the new m2

  • @reyesI165
    @reyesI165 Місяць тому

    Looks like a Scion TC my 10 yr old self would build in Midnight Club 3 😂

  • @mikemellon80
    @mikemellon80 Місяць тому

    Car looks amazing a modern version of the e30. The color blue that seems to be on all the press cars and all the ones I see for sale I’m not a fan of

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 Місяць тому

      The baby blue color is subjective. But I would slap this on a 2013 GT86 & the new GR86

  • @jeremywhittler8591
    @jeremywhittler8591 Місяць тому

    Is nobody talking about that grabby clutch?
    The new m2 has the snachiest clutch ever

  • @PresidentSpxdes
    @PresidentSpxdes Місяць тому

    Perfect Timing is ironic

  • @nikst7463
    @nikst7463 13 днів тому

    Those coolers below grills sticking out like that is weird for this price

  • @user-ge6rd4yr3d
    @user-ge6rd4yr3d Місяць тому

    I literally hate the giant hitler stache grills on f80s but GOD THE BOXY M2 JUST LOOKS AND FEELS SO SEXY I shivered when I first looked at it this car is worth buying post depreciation it will 10000000% be a collector car for it unique styling and ass clenching preformance with a third pedal.

  • @Myron143
    @Myron143 19 днів тому

    If I bought the 2024 bmw m2 cs, i would replace the headlights and the back ones as well with the older ones

  • @gregorypatzelt6964
    @gregorypatzelt6964 Місяць тому +1

    Idk about that grill

  • @SteezzyAsian
    @SteezzyAsian Місяць тому +2

    A tasteful lip kit on the front and these things look mint, but i think they need an aftermarket tailights

  • @lyndoncobb7077
    @lyndoncobb7077 Місяць тому +1

    I love the new M2 the look really grew on me especially lowered on nice wheels The issue with the new M2 is the weight and the price

    • @sirspeedsalot
      @sirspeedsalot Місяць тому +1

      The price seems pretty great to me which is why I was thinking of getting one. I wanted the m8 comp but this is like half the price so I might get the m2 for now then trade it in after I've beat the shit out of it for a couple years .

    • @lyndoncobb7077
      @lyndoncobb7077 Місяць тому

      @@sirspeedsalot if u can get one for MSRP why not but at one point I saw them going for damn near 100k

    • @hpickettz34
      @hpickettz34 Місяць тому

      Price wise its the fastest car for less than 70k

  • @routeddown66
    @routeddown66 Місяць тому

    If it was a few hundred pounds lighter a bit smaller and somehow added variable awd at same price point or more id over look its bizarre styling and buy it immediatly

  • @bk8230
    @bk8230 Місяць тому

    I'm sure it performs well. just looks a bit odd.

  • @totalkaos7312
    @totalkaos7312 27 днів тому

    Do the dealers let you test drive these?

  • @probegt75
    @probegt75 Місяць тому

    And it'll be lucky to last 100,000 miles...looks sick though

  • @al90vette
    @al90vette Місяць тому

    Take one home: m2 or dark horse?

  • @KidNato
    @KidNato Місяць тому

    The design language has way more personality than the rest of their coupes and sedan.
    It also feels JDMish (?) with its body kit so I get why a lot of folk do not like it

  • @tew3
    @tew3 Місяць тому

    wait, am i crazy or was the thumbnail originally the blue 2022 model?

  • @unwanted_zombie
    @unwanted_zombie Місяць тому

    What they did to the looks of the M3, 4 and 2 are a travesty. Idc about the power plants, but damn they looked so good in the previous gen.

  • @shawarmaman907
    @shawarmaman907 Місяць тому

    Just single turbo the g87 and let it ripp!!

  • @freedomfox8183
    @freedomfox8183 Місяць тому

    I just can't with the front bumper there's literal squares😂... Looks like a child is heading that department

  • @samuelhoward8504
    @samuelhoward8504 Місяць тому

    It’s just a red headed step child, that’s all. I want to like the m2 but I just feel bad for it. It’s just freakin weird on the outside. Nothing stands out as ugly specifically, it’s just not great to look at

  • @wiscopyro
    @wiscopyro Місяць тому

    Idk man, it looks werid. Also, I don't want my dashboard display to be one big screen, I want analog gauges.
    Bimmers aren't for me.

  • @GarrettsGear
    @GarrettsGear Місяць тому

    I'm desperate. I don't even care what they do to their cars, as long as they continue to offer gasoline-powered manual cars.

  • @cse5975
    @cse5975 Місяць тому

    3800lbs😅 The "small" BMW... the last real small BMW was the E8x 1 series....

  • @G2Merica
    @G2Merica Місяць тому

    So, I heard Uhaul bought BMW and redesigned the M2….

  • @TerrannotOP
    @TerrannotOP Місяць тому

    many of these types of cars are meant to be driven auto. I remember when this channel was so critical of the A90 supra while praising the new Z but guess which one turned out to be a highly sought out car for enthusiasts. BMW is the king of 50-70k USD, not even close. This car is going to be the same.