Already have crossfire in several kwads, but wanna try tracer. Do you think flying the tracer and crossfire in the same flying day would cause some issues with flying/timing? For example, if I'm more used to it being faster on Tracer, when I go back to a crossfire kwad, will I feel the difference? Be super noticeable? Afraid I'd like tracers latency that much better that I'd want to upgrade all of my kwads to tracer, which I'd rather not due being heavily invested in crossfire already. What's your thoughts?
Really, really interesting! Thanks a lot for the interview, Lee! 😃 But all of this just makes me even more confused about which to get: Crossfire or Tracer. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
When in doubt, get both lol. Just hide it from the wives/girlfriends. I'm having mine delivered to a friends house. I just got the crossfire a few months back and definitely don't want to be yelled at by the wife
Is the 25% discount only available when you purchase directly from Team Blacksheep? In some countries you can only buy from resellers, due to huge delays importing and high import duties.
great video. Forgive my ignorance. Someone just gave me his TBS Tracer module for my TX16s. Is it only for FPV drones? Does it have any purpose for RC planes?
Yesterday in the Lounge he said they're stopping the 25% discount this week already. I ordered Crossfire a week before Tracer release and didn't receive it yet. Not sure if I wanted to buy Tracer also, but not stoked about that cause I thought the discount was aimed at people like myself who just stepped into Crossfire.
Is it possible to get 16 channels for with the cube and gimbal. Or us channel 8 till 16? I can only see it works the other way. Use channel 8 of the radio and this sends channel 1 with the system.
Hi great video any chance you may know why my Tracer receiver is not showing up on crossfire devices on my Tango 2 it bound itself and worksI just can’t see it...? Cheers!
If I have an ACCST Horus X10S and I do the ACCESS upgrade that FrSky offers, will I not need to do the inverter mod? I know he said the radios being sold now won't need it, but what about older models that get upgraded?
I have the tracer installed on 4 quads and they will all show up in the agent x except for 1. It binds and works but agent x nor lua will read it so I can adjust settings. Any ideas?
I will absolutely do that. It’s really weird it functions just fine and the signal strength comes up on my taranis but the lua script and agent x lite dont see it. Anyway I’m using a mamba f7 50 amp pro stack with WiFi and Bluetooth. Not sure if that makes any difference.
Throughout some troubleshooting we have found that the receiver has this issue no matter the quad or flight controller. I was given a ticket number to have it replaced. Mike Chin has been very helpful! Still not sure what the problem was. Probably just a defective part. Still love their products!
Having a Tango 2 Crossfire with a bunch of modules would make it cumbersome, big, bunch of antenna's, and therefore pointless in my view. I'd buy a Tango 2 Tracer with multi protocol support , so just one antenna, TODAY. If the price is reasonable of course. I like the tracer mostly because of its small antenna's for my small models under 250g to be ready for the new 2020 drone regulations. And it being a machine gun makes it future proof and multi module support would make it possible for me to migrate my models step by step.
@@Painless360 thanks for the reply I'm just wondering do you have to unlock it to get the full features at all like you used to have to do with the TBS crossfire
It depends on your plans for the future. Crossfire has the best range and penetration. Tracer has a faster response, is more compact, and beats even the best current 2.4Ghz transmitters by miles and light-years.
I recently bought crossfire and also bought tracer on launch. I mostly fly micros and wings and although I could use the FPVCycle minimortal T to get crossfire working on my toothpicks and whoops, I really like the smaller antennas of the tracer system that come with the receiver. The lower latency was appealing, and for my use case the range of even a 2.4Ghz non-SPI receiver is overkill, it's more about the weight and convenience.
Thank you both for your time its greatly appreciated!
🥃cheers🍻
You're so much more relatable than Mr Steele, wow he's so condescending. Great video and I think I'm going to get a tracer
Already have crossfire in several kwads, but wanna try tracer. Do you think flying the tracer and crossfire in the same flying day would cause some issues with flying/timing? For example, if I'm more used to it being faster on Tracer, when I go back to a crossfire kwad, will I feel the difference? Be super noticeable? Afraid I'd like tracers latency that much better that I'd want to upgrade all of my kwads to tracer, which I'd rather not due being heavily invested in crossfire already. What's your thoughts?
Lee another excellent session with Trappy, thanks
Really, really interesting! Thanks a lot for the interview, Lee! 😃
But all of this just makes me even more confused about which to get: Crossfire or Tracer. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
When in doubt, get both lol. Just hide it from the wives/girlfriends. I'm having mine delivered to a friends house. I just got the crossfire a few months back and definitely don't want to be yelled at by the wife
Is the wifi module in the Tracer for TBS Cloud 2.4ghz? will it interfere with the Tracer when flying?
Nice question
@@justhackitfpv even if, it wont. do u have any interference with other mobile phones while in the same network..?
When are we getting long range on the Tracer??
Is the 25% discount only available when you purchase directly from Team Blacksheep? In some countries you can only buy from resellers, due to huge delays importing and high import duties.
great video. Forgive my ignorance. Someone just gave me his TBS Tracer module for my TX16s. Is it only for FPV drones? Does it have any purpose for RC planes?
You can use it in anything. Just get the right reciever. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 Thanks a bunch.
Any idea if there are plans to release a smaller receiver for tiny whoops? Like the 10mm x 10mm ghost receiver.
Yesterday in the Lounge he said they're stopping the 25% discount this week already.
I ordered Crossfire a week before Tracer release and didn't receive it yet.
Not sure if I wanted to buy Tracer also, but not stoked about that cause I thought the discount was aimed at people like myself who just stepped into Crossfire.
Send them a support ticket. Theyll sort it out
@@rebindfpv800 I know they will, but not necessary. I got it today so I can still apply. I just think it's weird they quit the discount so soon.
Is it possible to get 16 channels for with the cube and gimbal. Or us channel 8 till 16? I can only see it works the other way. Use channel 8 of the radio and this sends channel 1 with the system.
how about penetration through walls? think crossfire will be better in complex situations like inside a bando building?
Longer wavelengths like Crossfire will penetrate obstacles better than shorter ones. Happy flying!
Hi great video any chance you may know why my Tracer receiver is not showing up on crossfire devices on my Tango 2 it bound itself and worksI just can’t see it...? Cheers!
You need the Tracer module to use the Tracer recievers...
Hi Lee,
Any thoughts on tracer's frame transmission reliability?
It works great. No other thoughts. Why?
I couldn't get the discount code to work until I updated my TBS Agent X to the lastest version.
If I have an ACCST Horus X10S and I do the ACCESS upgrade that FrSky offers, will I not need to do the inverter mod? I know he said the radios being sold now won't need it, but what about older models that get upgraded?
u just need accst
hah. I got my tracer with the 2W max sticker also.
should I be worried that I did not get the production model or is there absolutely no difference?
No idea, sounds like it was a error on the sticker printing!:D
@@Painless360 guess I got my first collectible item, wonder what's it worth on ebay :)
I have the tracer installed on 4 quads and they will all show up in the agent x except for 1. It binds and works but agent x nor lua will read it so I can adjust settings. Any ideas?
I've not seen that here. Let me know what it is when you find out please..
I will absolutely do that. It’s really weird it functions just fine and the signal strength comes up on my taranis but the lua script and agent x lite dont see it. Anyway I’m using a mamba f7 50 amp pro stack with WiFi and Bluetooth. Not sure if that makes any difference.
Throughout some troubleshooting we have found that the receiver has this issue no matter the quad or flight controller. I was given a ticket number to have it replaced. Mike Chin has been very helpful! Still not sure what the problem was. Probably just a defective part. Still love their products!
Does the kiss keychain work with it like crossfire does so u can have a little screen
I would expect so, the protocol is the same. Happy flying
Is multibind possible with tracer? How about over the air updates?
Yes and yes.
I have a Taranis QX7. Will this work in my radio?
Yes. Covered in the video
Nick is it accst or acces, i have the same question?
So radios with existing CSRF support can run Tracer?
Yrs.
Is TBS Tracer allowed in EU? Does it support EU LBT?
See the TBS website for the full starement of conformity.. TBS work very hard to make sure that the system is legal..
I have futaba t10j ..can i use tbs tracer using ppm
No idea, sorry.
Having a Tango 2 Crossfire with a bunch of modules would make it cumbersome, big, bunch of antenna's, and therefore pointless in my view. I'd buy a Tango 2 Tracer with multi protocol support , so just one antenna, TODAY. If the price is reasonable of course. I like the tracer mostly because of its small antenna's for my small models under 250g to be ready for the new 2020 drone regulations. And it being a machine gun makes it future proof and multi module support would make it possible for me to migrate my models step by step.
Hi just wondering does tbs tracer work in the uk
Very well. Happy flying
@@Painless360 thanks for the reply I'm just wondering do you have to unlock it to get the full features at all like you used to have to do with the TBS crossfire
Operation is the same as the Crossfire Micro Tx module ;)
@@Painless360 nice one thank you very much for the information take care
Maybe it is time for me to move from crossfire to tracer now haha
If I have crossfire should I get tracer?
Probably not. Unless you're a racer or fly hardcore freestyle like Steele then you won't notice a difference
It depends on your plans for the future. Crossfire has the best range and penetration. Tracer has a faster response, is more compact, and beats even the best current 2.4Ghz transmitters by miles and light-years.
I recently bought crossfire and also bought tracer on launch. I mostly fly micros and wings and although I could use the FPVCycle minimortal T to get crossfire working on my toothpicks and whoops, I really like the smaller antennas of the tracer system that come with the receiver. The lower latency was appealing, and for my use case the range of even a 2.4Ghz non-SPI receiver is overkill, it's more about the weight and convenience.
🤩👍👀🇭🇷
My tracer says 2w is that right?
Answered in the video...