THIS is why Marvel Legends is Hated...
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2023
- As collectors, we've all at least once, forgot about a pre-order we placed out of impulse. My current greivance is the new Spider-Man 2 PS5 Gamerverse Spider-Man, which caused quite a stir amongst the Marvel Legends community. I figured I'd turn lemons into lemonade and use this figure to illustrate the current state of Hasbro's branch and the ire its drawn from long-time Spidey fans.
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I don't care for the PlayStation designs, but I still think it deserved to have the details rendered into the body like the Miles Morales figure. Not just painted.
It really annoys me how both these figures have parts that are accurate but also miss crucial details. Either are completely accurate to the game and I am so confused how they messed up this new one. Miles was an amazing figure so why can’t they get the main character right?
Now you know what it's like to be a power rangers fan collecting LC figures, except this is almost every single release. Or the figure straight up disintegrates into pieces.
they do it on purpose so they can come out with a revised version. There isn't a definitive one because they need us to go back and buy the newest release of the same character. They do it with the black series all the time. They omit parts and pieces then release another one down the line with it but omit something else. The figures are now meant to be fodder picked off and put back together to get your definitive version
The reason is because they use concept art to make these toys not the final product this is y yoys sometimes do not look as the show/movie or game
@@BloodMuffin612 They use concept art for games and stuff that is going to release. The Spiderman game has been released several years ago, thats not valid in this case
They just get a normal spider man figure and slap a logo from da game oh they won’t notice -
The 2018 PS4 Spider-Man figure uses the Sunfire body.
with the spider-uk head sculpt
Nerds
web man
@@newuseralert I’m a big boy
What boggles my mind is how they somehow got the colors backwards. The 2023 one should have the darker, more saturated colors since, at least from what weve seen in the game, thats how the colors look on the suit. And the 2018 one should be leaning more towards the reddish-orange and cobalt blue
The issue with marvel legends is that they reuse plenty of body molds but rarely add anything new to them. No shading, no new accessories, nothing. They don’t even lower the price, they actually increased it by $10! And it’s these kinds of scummy practices that make them so hated. If you look at something like sh figuarts they reuse plenty of their goku body molds but they actually add new unique faces and paint jobs on top of them already having a good base mold, and the price is $35. Then there’s the new naruto figure they made which is a completely new sculpt with tons of accessories and great articulation and it costs less than this spider man which is already in an outdated mold and comes with less accessories than most spider man figures. If import companies are starting to sell things for cheaper than domestic for a much higher quality then there really is a big problem. I mean even jada toys who is very new to the game is starting to make some amazing moves. Their street fighter line has almost import quality articulation and paint and come with a good amount of accessories for $25 and they barely reuse any molds. They already confirmed that their mega man figure will also be only $20 with a ton of accessories as well. Marvel legends the way they are now doesn’t even begin to compare with the other figure companies when it comes to price and quality. I’m surprised people still buy their stuff despite it being incredibly mediocre at best.
For people like me as a PR fan, it's cause there's no other option. There's either no figures for some characters from their series toylines, the figures are very, of their time with the proportions and builds, and of course, are old for most cases. The LC has so much QC issues and not just the actual quality, accessories not being included that should be, accessories being weirdly wrong for some reason, etc. But that's what I gotta deal with cause Hasbro just doesn't care to have better supervision of the design teams and people making the figures.
@@valen9835 yeah I feel for y’all. Sad that these are the people making figures of characters fans want. And y’all don’t got any other option cause if marvel legends goes away there’s pretty much no other figure company that’s gonna make most of these very unknown characters.
Just wait people are sculpting and printing up their own figures. I'd start thinking about investing in a 3D printer. I'm sure there will be artist out there that will start to sell their files for people to print and paint their own at home. We just have to wait til the resins become more durable.
@Jvm-iq2qe I reached the point where I'd rather make a custom, rather than buy these ML figures for obscure characters
@@matineyang I agree cuz I definitely would get one if the files could be bought and I didn’t have to do it myself. The true fans will start our own shit and profit from it. Cuz I would buy 3d figures if there are durable. There’s ton of characters I would like to have
this body really does not suit this version of spider-man, not only that but i’m really not a fan of the retro/ryv body in the first place. he deserved a new sculpt (like miles) AND complete accessories, not those web affects we’ve gotten too many of. paint is sub par and the head sculpt looks worse than in the render. the insomniac suit isn’t my favourite, not even one of my favourites (so i probably won’t buy this figure.) but hasbro can’t keep doing customers like this.
PS4 Spider-Man alt suits have original molds, but not the main suit for some reason.
@@-supernova-8164 because they know that everyone is going to buy it anyway, cause , is Peter
6:09 Like I said before, on the other video, I'm not too big on the torso articulation, especially after handling a couple of valaverse figures, they really need to change the position of the peg of the upper torso to the center, to get better range for the front and do I will always prefer a ball joint on the waist instead of a crunch
Recently I've cleaned the 🤡 makeup and stopped buying repaints and characters I don't know. Being a completest was fun until I noticed the mid figs I spent so much money on were just collecting dust.
Unless he goes on a heavy sale im not touching. Im really disappointed in Hasbro for thier decisions here, feels like they let their feelings get in the way of this figure
I understand if someone doesn't like any of these design choices from the game but more of us do than don't and we keep getting nonsense for a hefty price or not available anymore
I don’t care about those spider webs, but I need 2 more hands 😢😢
Normally, I just collect Black Series figures. However, I've also been a fan of the Fantastic Four for a long, long time. It's a faded and subtle fandom but it's there. So, I must admit, I have a few Fantastic Four Marvel Legends. I don't have the fabled Haslab Galactus though. I'd rather sleep in bed with my girlfriend than on the couch with Galactus, which would certainly happen if I spent that much money on a toy. I like my girlfriend. She looks like Britney Spears, only without the psychosis.
Lmaoooo
I like how it went from a rant about action figures to just talking about your girlfriend lmaoooo
@@noahlutzke9456, she's greeat. She's sitting on the sofa now, watching TV, while I write this, as a matter of fact. She just doesn't get my hobby but, as I always remind her, at least I'm not doing worse things, like drugs or booze.
@@tombowling8646 lmao very true. Action figure collecting is the only hobby that’s remained consistent throughout my life
I'm right there with you, brother!
this is way too buff for playstation spiderman. he's muscular, not buff like this. absolutely lazy to re-use the body instead of making it right.
This buck seems more fitting for Spider-Man 2099, the alternate costume that was in the game. He was swole.
It kills me that they didn't even use the correct blue on the body
I stopped collecting for good this year and let me tell you it’s the best decision I’ve made in a long time! I recommend it. Live stress free and stop purchasing expensive yet low quality and recycled figures just to have them sit on a shelf to collect dust. Nothing this year is gonna be better than what we’ve already seen and I highly doubt it will be better next year as well. Good luck to you and your wallets friends! Over and out.
This would have been sick if it came with the mechanical arms we see in the reveal trailer
Had to won’t even give you extra hands😂 don’t even think about those mechanical arms
I think the price is too much for the new marvel’s spider man £35 the shf dragon ball line is the Sam price as that
As much as I love Spiderman im glad I'm not the biggest action figure collector because I would be so pissed with the quality and what they did with it
Goodness I’ve learned a few things in a short period of time… since October when I got my first figures as a beginner collector. I don’t collect Marvel figures but I’ve some experience with Star Wars which made me jump into the Vintage Collection rapidly after seeing that Black Series Kenobi Vader.
The Renew Your Vows Spider-Man included THREE sets of hands including the ones by default on the figure AND a swappable head, same for MJ’s Spinneret. In Canada, the set is $85 CAD (some say 80, others say 90 so average).
Now the Marvel Spider-Man 2’s hero has two extra hands that aren’t mirrored… a few web accessories… If it was $35 CAD, that would be fine. In fact, for a quality 6inch figure, this would be amazing since both Black Series and McFarlane also have their own shares of issues along with the price but a good figure is always worth it when factoring in accessories, sculpting, articulations and brand.
It is $50 CAD. FIFTY!!! So imagine for a second. Two hands that aren’t mirrored but found on another packaged Spider-Man that is more expensive but gives you double the number of figures… no swappable head despite the hero potentially showing his face for story segments or cutscenes… is $50 CAD before taxes and potential shipping which ends up being $60 or $65… even $70 in the worst case scenario and we’re not talking about retro packaging for collectors.
Again, $35 USD for this “Marvel Gaming Greats Legends” Spider-Man… and $63 USD at BBTS for the Renew Your Vows… This is the definition of laziness and that is a shame from Hasbro.
Yet Hasbro can do a near impeccable Black Series Cal Kestis for Jedi Survivor at the same price and offer a completely new sculpt except for the BD-1 droid. And for $20, Vintage Collection has a Cal Kestis with new sculpt and modern articulations. They can do it right when it counts!
Marvel fans are being robbed with this Spider-Man and would be better off saving for the Renew Your Vows bundle or wait for a permanent discount until the game comes out and eventually gets discounted as well.
Collect Hot Toys my man much better detail, accessories etc and they hold their value!
They see what people are paying in the aftermarket’s. It’s ridiculous for some of these items. I recently got my first marvel legends Spider-Man. It was renew your vows from the two pack. And I got Toby sh figuarts. Spider-Man. I like the Renew your vows much much better. All these toy companies are ripping us off.
First one is on the sunfire body mold. Was used for a lot of other figures ECXEPT for spiderman suprisingly enough. Recently however. Theyve been using it for spiderman but never in the classic deco. In fact, they made a whole new body mold, say for maybe the arms and legs, for spiderman which is the predecessor to the "renew your vows" buck.
2018 version uses the same body as deadpool
Inflation is one thing, but this seems like a really big foul up on the price. Why is this guy hitting the same price ($35.99) in the US as in Canada. This seems like Hasbro accidentally listed this at this price to American retailers and they ran with it. In Canada this figure is listed all over for that price, which is equal to every regular release Marvel Legends figure.
Diamond select is much better than these both
My first and only marvel legends I ever bought was the homecoming spidey advanced suit and immediately regretted lol
Ooh that was a bad choice. The MCU ones are pretty bad. I’d recommend the Renew Your Vows Spidey or the Retro Symbiote suit. Those are prett sweet
In my case it was infinity war iron man…IT SUCKS
@@andresreynoso7254 oof! I also died to get it!! It would've been my second figure but that headsculpt.... and fixed hands
Such a let down, even the mk 85 was a disappointment to me, I really gave up on hasbro
Technical it's still spiderman 1 version as new spidermal 2 game has not shown off any images yet
I don't "hate" Hasbro, it is just a fact that Hasbro "doesn't love" us......
I have no way home spider man and iron spider so that is enough for me, why I need a 100 spider man with the same body mold that is just waisted my money .
Only things stopping me from buying it are the price, the choice of paint colour (would have like the deeper blue + res combo the RYV fig has) and the fact that this figure looks comicy when Miles - from the same game - looks realistic.
Can't understand the bad decision making they had for the new one.
Yea this sculpt benefits him because it's taller bit the Amazing Fantasy body is better fit for a spiderman figure in general.
Why hasbro never learn to left that ancient articulation on torso and use double ball peg? Just look at jada toys street fighter figur, with double ball peg, you can get good ab crunch, rotation, side to side, something a spidy figure needed
It's because they're terrible at using ball joints correctly
The Mafex figures are amazing I really wish hasbro would start innovating with their collector oriented figures the prices keep going up and it’s the same quality as it was when it was cheaper they were 19.99 when I started buying them they are now $5 more I get inflation is a thing but they could at least at in more joints or actually make a new figure instead of repatriating everything
The PS4 Spiderman sculpt comes from a classic Spiderman / webman figure
I got it for a lot cheaper since they messed up the price at Gamestop in Canada, I'm ok with it at that price (also it's my first Spidey figure).
Yea, ain't Canada way higher with their prices?
@@DarkspiderDavid91 technically the number is higher but it’s all relative, and in this specific case we had it for a “normal” price at least at GameStop.
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I've been collecting marvel legends for several years now, and due to the films going downhill, and the figures going downhill in some areas, I kinda gave up on marvel. The reason I liked marvel in the first place was because of my dad, and I've been a Godzilla and Transformers fan for several years now, so I'd rather invest more in them than marvel.
No need for the silly web accessories, just give us all the proper hands..2 fists, 2 wall crawlers, 2 shooters. Oh, and for the increased price point..extra head.
In case it's not mentioned in the comments, doesn't that old one use the Sunfire body? The Spiderman 2099 from the Sandman wave also uses it.
"Who hates Marvel Legends is because never heard of Mcfarlane DC multiverse"
So, as a long time Power Rangers fan, i have no problem with having the same mold over and over with just a repaint. I mean, every single team of 5-7 rangers are just two separate molds (male and female) with the almost the exact same suit with only slight difference. My problem is the rise on the price and the specific "character tax" that hasbro seems to do.
Ps4 spidey looks like he reusues retro spidey body mold but didn't ps4 spidey come out first before retro?
Frank and Sons pretty fair prices they check online value and know if they want to sell it they have to find a value somewhere in between reseller and a steal
I want toy biz back. The Spider-Man 2 figures were awesome
In Australia it’s standard price
I like the look of it but I really don’t like that blue even tho it’s sorta accurate
I hate how tight those shoulder joints are i usually use a small blade to shave off a thin layer of that shoulder cuff then add some Vaseline and it rotates smoothly with no issues
Now I already have the 2018 figure, but I'm tempted to get the 2023 one too. Mostly because it's the cheapest way to get the RYV Spider-Man at the moment. Ya surprisingly in Canada the new figure is the regular price, and doesn't have the same price increase as it is in the US. I do wonder if they did this to save some budget for a future PS5 Black Suit figure with new sculpting.
Also I do find it hilarious that people are saying stuff about this when McFarlane is coming out with TWO Blue Beetle movie figures with different accessories, as well as the numerous amounts of repaints and releases with different accessories.
If I remember correctly the PS4 Spidey body mold was first utilized for the Marvel Legends Pizza Spidey.
I'm pretty sure cause around that time Diamond Select had released their own Spectacular Spidey and it was pretty much a battle between Marvel Selects superior molding detail vs the Marvel Legends' new super articulated body.
No, ps4 spidey is referred to as the "Sunfire" buck. It's sunfire buck with Spidey UK head.
i wish we got a brand new sculpt for the new one, like we have for pretty much every other gamerverse spider-man figure after the original 2018 version, but it’s hasbro so it’s to be expected unfortunately. also i don’t know if it’s just my figure but the blue looks more grey to me on the new one, definitely prefer the original colour scheme on the 2018
The steep 35 dollar price is all that dissuades me. Way too expensive for any Marvel Legend of that size. The lack of two web heads is a non-issue for me.
Not agreeing with price hikes and i didn't order either figures but the original ps4 spidy figure came out as Gstop exclusive in 2018/2019 before the world chaos of 2020 so like every product and companies across the board hiked prices past inflation rise prices.
Hasbro's price points keep creeping up and they're pricing more collectors out of their lines. I stopped with Legends and Black Series. I am not so invested in Andor or The Mandalorian to buy 5 figures of one-appearance characters at $25 a pop (or higher), or a fifth repaint of the lead character I *do* like. They want to rope in collectors... but those same collectors tend to be savvy enough to know where to draw the line on when too much is too much, and domestic versus import figures. Buy five Mando repaints or buy one really nice Mando with a ton of accessories from SHF or MAFEX? Pretty easy decision.
The 2018 model has a lil spider coming out with his own shoulders
There are things that bother me about Hasbro and McFarlane. I enjoyed the Marvel Legends X-Men 97 line. I picked all of them up. . Hasbro gets lazy while McFarlane makes some weird sculpt choices and gives us way too many Batman figures. Also, I'd rather have more accessories with a McFarlane than a card and a stand. More hands, heads, weapons, etc. I really like that Knightfall Batman though.
Agree on that, would they have more accesories, it surely would appeal more to collectors. I collect the Masterverse line from MOTU, so I know just how much of a difference a good set of accesories can make when buying a figure.
I feel like I like the original's colors better. It looks closer to the game.
I personally never understood why they made the ps4 Spider-Man’s red into more of an orange and the blue more of a cyan. But hey it makes it a little bit more unique.
It was so funny that people were so adamant the logo needs to be whjte yet never complained about raimes being gunmetal or tasm2 suit being gunmetal
Not only are the white Spider logos and stitching not included in sculpt (inaccurate) but the color schemes are straight up wrong, the blue was never that light in the 2018 game. Also, these bodies are just way too bulky for Insomniac Spider-Man
I collected all the Spider-Man classic looking villains of marvel legends. I got most of them for some decent prices however through the the span of a few short months they increased the prices by a lot. So much so I had to stop collecting marvel legends. Which I don’t mind because some of there new releases don’t come with much and are to expensive. I’m just glad I got most of the figures before I stoped
The 2018 ps4 spidy is the sunfire or spidy 2099 body
So far in 2023 I’ve bought Daredevil Elektra… & that’s it. I finally got my hands on the MojoWorld box set for a great price. but I’m pretty sure that was last year.
What kills my interest for marvel legends is that I know what I'm buying isn't new, it's simply another paint deco difference from currently existing parts and soon, the shelf begins to look uniform in shape, so why buy the exact same toy but with a slight different paint job? It's like early Funko Pop Vinyls, they were notorious for being lazy in design with cookie cutting. Also, why pay £10-£15 MORE for a 6 inch figure when I can get a bigger, just as articulate and more detailed one from McFarlane? It makes no sense.
Hasbro has a monopoly and they know it.
The previous version came from the Spider Uk figure. Just for reference.
11:01 its using a sunfire body mold
My first two and likely only Marvel Legends figures would be the Retro 2099 and Amadeus Cho Iron Spider because as far as I know, this is the only line that has those two
They look great and all but man, the quality control can be rough - Iron Spider is great but 2099 has very tight thigh cuts and his right leg is wobbly
I was kinda hoping that for the price point, these would be on the more premium side of things, akin to PR Lightning Collection
It makes me sad that my favorite spider would have that kind of issue - I mean he can hold poses well but I worry how long it’ll take before it breaks
I only payed $18.99 for the old ps4 spiderman
Nice!
Dang. That paint quality up close. Nothing a touch up cant fix but man.
Renew the bows and AF15 spideys were my last ML and I think they will remain that
I am pretty sure the 2018 figure was the Spider UK figure
Can the hands on these two be swapped ? I think the hands of the first figure are much cooler with the knuckles !!!
Why not Diss shf too from 80 dollar figure to 180dollar now ahhaha
The wallcrawling hand is useless. I mean, you need two wallcrawling hands to pose him wall crawling... You mean two wallcrawling hands if you want him in the classic crouching pose...
Most Hasbro ML have almost always looked like they're made from like 5 different Sharpies and a reused body mold. They're not even $20 figures
I've been enjoying it, but I get that not being clear that making a figure of the PlayStation Spider-Man has like two or three extra layers of licensing fees can make that price seem crazy. I'm sure we would have already gotten a lot more gamer Spider people otherwise.
I’m just picking up the Guardians Volume 3 wave and that’s pretty much it, I haven’t collected marvel legends since 2017, and I just love the guardians too much so I had to pick those up haha
It looks like they just used white out to repaint the figure.
Marvel Legends got me $800+ cuz all the toys I got aint worth it anymore😂, I have to sell the figures I got at low price cuz I know the figures I got over the years aint worth $20+🎉. Not gonna scam my buyers 😊
I feel like the blue of spider-man 2 is too off color but I love the brighter look of it compared to the original one. I feel like that brighter orangish red is more fitting for insomniac spider-man
Just going to get miles and then hopefully they release the Symbiote suit and it’s not half assed
Someone should let this guy know that government plays the largest role in what price hasbro charges. In the years between the two figures, government has inflated the currency supply and hasbro along with all manufacturers had to adjust retail pricing accordingly.
The increase in price outpaces inflation. In other words, while a price increase would be warranted, the price has increased beyond just trying to cover increased costs due to inflation.
It would have been one thing to screw people over with the hands, if the body was new, but they didn't even have to tool a new body, it is peak hasbro
I think it’s the Spider-Man UK figure that the PS4 Spider-Man figure is based on
K would definitely pay a extra 30 dollars just for a new sculpt
Cool video keep it up👍
It is just so HATEFUL how Hasbro ML team treats us, customers, with these scrutiny repaints with HIGH PRICES and selled as something new... not even the accessories are new. What are we paying for? Paint???!! that's why i've abandoned ML line...
Toe articulation. Finally back.
the hed sculpt is much more game accurate on the new insomniac spider man
The ps4 Spidey you have kinda reminds me of the Steve ditko spiderman that marvel legends made. At least it’s definitely the head
They really got to step it up now these days I’m very picky with marvel legends.
The 23$ one is actually 110$
MSRP is $23
I like the figure but they should have thrown in some hands and an unmasked head. Something for that price point.
Jumped the gun not “jumped AT the gun.”
Come on Sir, He has a different box. That’s why you need it. It’s like a comic book variant.
they should've used a new mold that doesn't look like comic body. examples miles morales' figure.
i collect transformers and black series and yeah, hasbro's stuff suffers, they barely improve if at all, and the prices for what you get are borderline scams, hell a recent black series i got (fives) has wonky details, like the helmet details are way WAY too small
Glad I got the original figure when I had the chance
2:00 I'm the complete opposite, at first I really liked the suit, but after playing on PC it just feels like a "Walmart" suit. That head sculpt is amazing tho, would be a good contender for a 90s cartoon custom.
Also ps4 spidey at gamestop was only $22.99 awhile later on sale release price was $32
Kinda unfair that insomniac miles gets his own figure sculpt and all that and insomniac Peter just gets the average figure sculpt, but it’s hasbro what’d you expect.
I have to agree with @coldboyous , I reccomend the S.H. Spider-Man PS4 Figure it's super accurate, I for one actually have it.
The new one is 💩 but I like the head sculpt if only they had a dark tone red like in the game