I own the entire series. By far one if the best life stories of a human being who happens to be a hero. The stress of being that is truly shown as they have issues just like everyone else but a responsibility to save the world all of the time.
I wish they did more stories like this you’ll have things get close in regular issues like spider man getting overwhelmed by serious adult problems all while being a young kid and doing his best to make his hero’s proud but nothing like this showing an adult possessed with regrets and weight old man Logan touched on that a sadly marvel only wants to delegate these stories to special labels that go defunct after 2 series just like DC I guess.
Depends on your definition of famous. He was a very well known character way before the movies. He had series dated back at 1994. While Robert Downey Jr certainly elevated the character it's not like he wasn't well known.
I think that this storyline shows that good heroes are not without weaknesses, they simply have the power to overcome their weaknesses. I think with today's modern depiction of comic book heroes that the staff working on the books are afraid to show heroes failing, but a hero that has flaws can be more endearing to fans. Our weaknesses are as much a part of us as our strengths we just have to find a way to overcome our flaws and enhance our strengths.
I wasn't a regular reader of this in my youth but I did get a few of him being an alcoholic and it was brilliant. The best one had to be with the cop betting him.
Marvel don't care to flesh out the personalities of it's characters like the comics did. Last one who did it imo was sam reimi in the first Spiderman trilogy who really portrayed the struggles of Peter Parker in his non super hero persona. And perhaps a little of hulks struggles with his mutation but that's it .
Yeah that was one of the problems I had with the Ironman movies. He was only an alcoholic for about 10 minutes in the movies when he was for years in the comics.
Remember in the Superman films when Christopher Reeve goes alcoholic? I loved it. Johnny Walker Red, too. I've never seen a Red drinker who wasn't a drunkard. Imagine a Korean Iron Man addicted to soju and whiskey! Red and Blue suit! Before anyone shames me, know that I used to be a drunkard myself. And I'm Asian.
Sounds like they took ALOT of this for Ironman 2 but didn't have the balls to REALLY flush it out. shame could of been just as good if not better than part 1
Have you read extremis it's one of my favorite Iron Man comics I love how adult, mature and violent the story is and how messed up mallen is in that comic book
Iron man, Hank Pym , cp America all have very much juice in the comics as characters regarding their personalities but Marvel doesn't care to portray that. Pym for example and his defective brain is sth which he always struggles to cope in the comics and overcome. But for marvel as long as their characters have a sassy line that's enough character development..
Demon in A Bottle is one of Marvel’s best storyarcs. Seeing Tony give in to alcoholism was a story as great as the 1971 Amazing Spider-Man #s 96-98 anti drug issues which was written by Stan “The Man” Lee at the request of the US Department of Health, Education and Welfare, with the backing of the Senate (and, which pre dates by 2 years DC’s Green Lantern/Green Arrow #85). Demon in A Bottle also shows why Tony Stark is a better character than Bruce Wayne as he was seen having a weakness that can be identified with; when Tony relapsed in Iron Man #s 166-193, the cost was far more severe, with the lost of Stark International and most of his wealth; Batman never went through that- The Joker War only reduced him to a millionaire; even Green Arrow lost far more than Bruce, though it became the catalyst for Oliver Queen to be a social activist in the 1970s.
Your opinion,many will agree and also disagree. But both characters were at time extra douchebags,bordering on fascism,but prince of gotham is way more interesting then the weapons dealer.
i wouldn't say batman didn't have a moments of weakness, if i remember there is a story arc, where batman failed to save a kidnapped child from drowning due to not being able to get rid of a large debris separating him and child from drowning. and started taking Venom after that incident to increase his strength unfortunately he started taking more and more as the story progresses to the point he became addicted to it. and when he didn't get his fixed he started lashing out on gordon and even thought about killing him. note the story takes place before Knightfall in where bane is first introduced.
Tony drank again as a sacrifice for Odin not because of the watcher also the best outcome of civil war was never cap’s idea the watcher said that if cap actually listened to tony instead of instantly trying to fight him they would’ve come to a compromise
I don't know why Tony Stark came out about being Ironman. I remember back in the day a superheros would go to great lengths to protect their alter ego. Except of course The Fantastic Four and The.Incredible Hulk and The She-Hulk and a few others. Just saying. Have a great day everyone
From the time when marvel build real deep and interesting characters for everyone, instead of today's shallow estereotipes for adults with children's brains with 30 years old!
I own the entire series. By far one if the best life stories of a human being who happens to be a hero. The stress of being that is truly shown as they have issues just like everyone else but a responsibility to save the world all of the time.
I wish they did more stories like this you’ll have things get close in regular issues like spider man getting overwhelmed by serious adult problems all while being a young kid and doing his best to make his hero’s proud but nothing like this showing an adult possessed with regrets and weight old man Logan touched on that a sadly marvel only wants to delegate these stories to special labels that go defunct after 2 series just like DC I guess.
It's just so interesting that Iron man has been around for decades but never officially got famous until the movies came out
@@Saddonghussein good point mate
Depends on your definition of famous. He was a very well known character way before the movies. He had series dated back at 1994.
While Robert Downey Jr certainly elevated the character it's not like he wasn't well known.
@@GothPaoki yea but it didn't last long at all, because no one cared but I see what you mean
@@Saddonghussein true 👍
Secretly one of my favorite runs, as I'm an X-Fan at heart, particularly Cable.
This story inspired me to never ever touch a bottle of alcohol and to never drink. I'm 27, 28 in January and still have never drank beer or whine.
I actually wish they did more stories like this. Characters dealing with real world vices like this.
I think that this storyline shows that good heroes are not without weaknesses, they simply have the power to overcome their weaknesses. I think with today's modern depiction of comic book heroes that the staff working on the books are afraid to show heroes failing, but a hero that has flaws can be more endearing to fans. Our weaknesses are as much a part of us as our strengths we just have to find a way to overcome our flaws and enhance our strengths.
Videos about age of apocalipse, total carnage, the first secret wars and the comics infinite war would be cool!
my band in college, jerseybound, had an album called: in the morning, jerseybound will either be sober. or dead!
I wasn't a regular reader of this in my youth but I did get a few of him being an alcoholic and it was brilliant. The best one had to be with the cop betting him.
The entire Demon in the bottle, is my favorite Iron Man comic.
the director of iron man 2 wanted to adapt this story but disney said no.
The Iron Man 2 movie really botched this plot.
Marvel don't care to flesh out the personalities of it's characters like the comics did.
Last one who did it imo was sam reimi in the first Spiderman trilogy who really portrayed the struggles of Peter Parker in his non super hero persona.
And perhaps a little of hulks struggles with his mutation but that's it .
Everybody has been as drunk as Tony Downey Jr was when he was record scratching. We all know that feeling.
Yeah that was one of the problems I had with the Ironman movies. He was only an alcoholic for about 10 minutes in the movies when he was for years in the comics.
Remember in the Superman films when Christopher Reeve goes alcoholic? I loved it. Johnny Walker Red, too. I've never seen a Red drinker who wasn't a drunkard. Imagine a Korean Iron Man addicted to soju and whiskey! Red and Blue suit! Before anyone shames me, know that I used to be a drunkard myself. And I'm Asian.
I agree alot more no overdrunkenness 😄😰
Had all of those....wonderful run❤️😍
I never drink alcohol in my life.
Another great video and very good story I like it
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This guy again? No thank you. You guys just letting anybody narrate, I really want to audition.
I Like titles this channel writes.
Also, there is a fun what If Short where Iron Man had eating habits instead of alchohol addiction
Yeah, in the comic book he used to fly drunk.
Sounds like they took ALOT of this for Ironman 2 but didn't have the balls to REALLY flush it out. shame could of been just as good if not better than part 1
Have you read extremis it's one of my favorite Iron Man comics I love how adult, mature and violent the story is and how messed up mallen is in that comic book
Iron man, Hank Pym , cp America all have very much juice in the comics as characters regarding their personalities but Marvel doesn't care to portray that. Pym for example and his defective brain is sth which he always struggles to cope in the comics and overcome. But for marvel as long as their characters have a sassy line that's enough character development..
I saw this in a convient store when was a kid. I started to get it, now I regret it.
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Yep, Demon In A Bottle. I still have my original issue.
Got this New back then.
Demon in A Bottle is one of Marvel’s best storyarcs. Seeing Tony give in to alcoholism was a story as great as the 1971 Amazing Spider-Man #s 96-98 anti drug issues which was written by Stan “The Man” Lee at the request of the US Department of Health, Education and Welfare, with the backing of the Senate (and, which pre dates by 2 years DC’s Green Lantern/Green Arrow #85).
Demon in A Bottle also shows why Tony Stark is a better character than Bruce Wayne as he was seen having a weakness that can be identified with; when Tony relapsed in Iron Man #s 166-193, the cost was far more severe, with the lost of Stark International and most of his wealth; Batman never went through that- The Joker War only reduced him to a millionaire; even Green Arrow lost far more than Bruce, though it became the catalyst for Oliver Queen to be a social activist in the 1970s.
Your opinion,many will agree and also disagree. But both characters were at time extra douchebags,bordering on fascism,but prince of gotham is way more interesting then the weapons dealer.
i wouldn't say batman didn't have a moments of weakness, if i remember there is a story arc, where batman failed to save a kidnapped child from drowning due to not being able to get rid of a large debris separating him and child from drowning. and started taking Venom after that incident to increase his strength unfortunately he started taking more and more as the story progresses to the point he became addicted to it. and when he didn't get his fixed he started lashing out on gordon and even thought about killing him. note the story takes place before Knightfall in where bane is first introduced.
HE hit the bottle again after Civil War after the Watcher showed him that if they just went with Cap's idea everything would of been fine.
Tony drank again as a sacrifice for Odin not because of the watcher also the best outcome of civil war was never cap’s idea the watcher said that if cap actually listened to tony instead of instantly trying to fight him they would’ve come to a compromise
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I don't know why Tony Stark came out about being Ironman. I remember back in the day a superheros would go to great lengths to protect their alter ego. Except of course The Fantastic Four and The.Incredible Hulk and The She-Hulk and a few others. Just saying. Have a great day everyone
From the time when marvel build real deep and interesting characters for everyone, instead of today's shallow estereotipes for adults with children's brains with 30 years old!