D335 is started for the first time after a period of being flat. The AVR was to be checked so Dave Peacock sets out to start the Type 4... 5th time lucky!
When the cylinder temperature increases and the rings start sealing off due to increasing pressures, the white smoke (unburnt diesel fuel) starts changing to black smoke as more of the injected diesel ignites. At this point, some cylinders actually start producing enough power to carry themselves, but others are still being motored. As starting continues, more cylinders kick in and the thing comes to life. What a great visceral experience to actually start these things in cold weather!
Enjoy while you can, Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind. To turn these cold motor takes lots of electric starting power , keep in mind, rods, cylinders, cranks etc are much bigger, , it’s slower so combustion ratio is low , the fuel puddles on the cold cylinders because of incomplete combustion, and the turbo is blocking air cause it won’t spin till the first real ignition happens and that’s when you see the first puff of smoke go from grey or blue to black. Then another puff, and another then the turbo finally spools up, and finally after 5. Minutes voila .
Always loved the whistle of the fans and turbo's. Sunday was busy near my house for shunting, usually Brush and BoBo but sometimes something with a nose. I would watch for hours and stand on our bridge over the heat rising from the fans. Went to Rolls Royce at 16 and trained as a diesel engineer. Love those diesels. Thanks Dr Rudolf.
Youngsters seldom appreciate the sound and fury of enormous diesel engines. I was First Officer on a Danish sailing ship that had an Alpha 3 cylinder, air start, 750 rpm redline. In a pinch, t could be "push" started, or you could just start walking on the flywheel!
@@paulcatley2224 Nowhere in my comment did I say that it is a Napier Deltic engine. The turbochargers are manufactured by Napier, and this engine is fitted with four of them.
We had English Electric diesels in Australia, and the South Australian Railways (SAR) had these 16 cyl 4 turbo versions in their 900 class, when maintained they started very quickly, probably in about quarter of a revolution, a great engine.
Videos like this, and you guys who know about these incredible machines, just amaze me. As a hobby, I restore the old 2-cylinder John Deere tractors and have difficulty remembering the firing order :) I cannot imagine what it must be like to work on these grand engines. Thanks for posting this. Dick Day Norfolk, Nebraska USA
Great sound ! Not heard that whistlin' since I was at Guide Bridge back in the early 80s. Bring back the good old days ! Thanks for the vid. Just wish I had some of all my excursions.
I rode behind the "Green Howards" when I first went to England in 1980, London-Hull, there was nothing like that VROOM sound they put out...a Fairbanks-Morse x three, incredible!
@Triplex5014 Most diesel-electrics use the generator, some latter Alcos used an air-starter. My guess is that the first four or five tries here were done with the cylinder cocks open to prevent firing, in order to pre-lube and get possible jacket water out of the cylinders (a necessity with EMD's). When the last try comes, it fires right up. And I love it, as I said a long while ago, this beast's an Alco in quadraphonic!
I used to drive a fuel truck powered by a Cat 3208 which is a naturally aspirated V8. It was15 years old at the time and had spent alot of it's time idling. I would leave it running at high idle for about 15 minutes just to blow all the white smoke out of it due to oil setting in around the piston rings while it sat overnight. It ran fine once I did that. Likewise this tired old locomotive. Happy trails old friend.
Ruston V16's. Same engines are installed on tugs, 'Shaldar' & 'Tirrick' where I work. I must get some video of a start up and post on here. They sound exactly like this when coming to life. Instead of batteries, ours start with compressed air blasted into the cylinders in sequence to turn the engine, and are kept heated to a constant temperature, so fire up intantly, run smoothly, and may be put to hard work right away.
This whistle takes me back to Crewe in the 70's and also the North Wales Coast Line. My mum and dad were on the beach, I was sat on Rhyl Station, brilliant.
Very nice indeed ,when Brittania Ruled !!!! Just memories and tears now , ta ta U K 'twas a good place to be a few decades back . I remember 1980 New Street Station stood right next to Deltics starting up , thought I'd get suçked into the grilles !!! Scary but amazing when your 9 , very fond mamaries ....
my friend I have NO wish to start some sort of argument going here BUT there was a feasibility study done way back in 1949ish that proved steam trains could run more efficiently and less polluting than diesels (they've actually done it in Switzerland ..true) .. If you have a valid point to make please make it BUT please there is NO need to be insulting or rude in your comments its brings you down not me and if I am a tree hugger I'm proud of it Bless
+mike clarke Terrible pollution here. These old diesel and steam engines should be cut for scrap and melted down to prevent this horrible smoke which should not be allowed in the 21st C.
heelfan1234....you have made the same comment on quite a few of these videos....Diesel is here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it.Anyway,what happens when there's a power cut or there's damage to overhead power lines due to storms or vandalism?What do they use to keep the railways running?Diesel locomotives
Love these Deltic engines originally designed for submarines. They are supercharged not turbocharged as some people have thought, I have worked on these engines for many years with three crankshafts, eighteen cylinders and thirty six pistons. A nightmare to work on.
Everyone seems to think they hear a turbine whine. I know they're supercharged like radial aircraft engines to get an air charge into the manifolds. I read somewhere they had turbo chargers.
Either insufficient compression, not enough advance in injection timing, or, it needs glow plugs. Once warmed up, I'll bet it runs smooth as silk, and burns perfectly clean. This is undoubtedly a cold start. I have to admit, I do like the sound!
used to drive a detroit v-12 that was just as cranky. Once it started and was hunting, go inside shed and keep dogs company until it warmed up and was idling normally. Neat post.
That's exactly the sound I used to hear at the small local station near Blackpool called Layton station, when these things start sing their song you Never forget, it was great I loved it. 😊😃👉😲😎
When the camera panned to the right at 2:25 and showed front of the train.... I half expected to see some dude using a crank to roll the engine over....😋
Man, I could listen to that hunting idle for hours and not tire of it! Listen to those turbo's wake up! Sulzer V-16 with four turbo's if I'm not mistaken. Awesomw video. Thanks for sharing with us. Rick - Wisconsin - USA
I had a cool dream one-time that I got to restore an old locomotive that wasn't all that big, so I only kept one engine in it and changed-out its drivetrain to a Semi-truck drive system and had that as "my truck" for a while. Weird dream, but it was cool at the time.
@vai2iant : Yep it is 4 stroke. It's a 247 litre V16, 4 valves per cylinder, turbocharged, diesel engine with direct injection. It produces (correct me if I'm wrong) 2000bhp at 1000rpm. These engines were not designed to start well from cold, I believe they have a quite low compression ratio to reduce peak pressures.
Somebody designed that engine, then showed it to his boss for the first time, and he was like 'yeah this sounds like a really good idea. Let's build a train around it' :D
grate vid from a few few years a go its lke its running on fire mote desial goood to see a classic desial running and good to see a saved loco from scrapper
How can these and the deltics be so ugly yet so beautiful to the eyes and ears. Top video. It left me in tears. I felt I was hand cranking it (the engine that is). I'm exhausted. It's such a relief when you to hear it firing on all or almost all cylinders.
The cold-morning diesel start-up procedure: Check all fluids... Check battery condition... Say a prayer, ahead a tear... Turn the switch, count to six, then engage the starting-gear!
When the cylinder temperature increases and the rings start sealing off due to increasing pressures, the white smoke (unburnt diesel fuel) starts changing to black smoke as more of the injected diesel ignites. At this point, some cylinders actually start producing enough power to carry themselves, but others are still being motored. As starting continues, more cylinders kick in and the thing comes to life. What a great visceral experience to actually start these things in cold weather!
Enjoy while you can, Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind. To turn these cold motor takes lots of electric starting power , keep in mind, rods, cylinders, cranks etc are much bigger, , it’s slower so combustion ratio is low , the fuel puddles on the cold cylinders because of incomplete combustion, and the turbo is blocking air cause it won’t spin till the first real ignition happens and that’s when you see the first puff of smoke go from grey or blue to black. Then another puff, and another then the turbo finally spools up, and finally after 5. Minutes voila .
@@tomasneel1980 "Josephine Biden is ending all Diesel engines of every kind"
Complete BS.
@@beeble2003 Agree, he's the one that has over stayed his time.
it sounds angry in the start, to early in the morning, no coffee no cigarettes, and it is chill ;-)
Sounds more like it has had way to many cigarettes.
Hejsa min Svenske broder, hilsen fra Århus Danmark
straxx99 he ain't your brother.
Just listen to those turbos, they'd win x-factor, what a sound
And you sound like an idiot
Cold start on a typical January morning in the UK.
Don`t you just love it, no mater what sort of vehicle you`re driving!
Always loved the whistle of the fans and turbo's. Sunday was busy near my house for shunting, usually Brush and BoBo but sometimes something with a nose. I would watch for hours and stand on our bridge over the heat rising from the fans. Went to Rolls Royce at 16 and trained as a diesel engineer. Love those diesels. Thanks Dr Rudolf.
Pretty much exactly what I did expect
Same reaction I had. I was waiting for something to explode
I thought that light behind the exhaust outlet was flames!!
That sound and whistle!! Memories!!!!!
My neighbors had better be glad I can't get one of these in my back yard!
Zombie comment revival........
Just one?! 😉😁
Me too
Youngsters seldom appreciate the sound and fury of enormous diesel engines. I was First Officer on a Danish sailing ship that had an Alpha 3 cylinder, air start, 750 rpm redline. In a pinch, t could be "push" started, or you could just start walking on the flywheel!
That sound just makes you feel good.
Would love to experience it first hand.
That sound of 4 Napier turbos singing is just gorgeous!
thats not a napier deltic engine, its a v16 english electric
@@paulcatley2224 Nowhere in my comment did I say that it is a Napier Deltic engine. The turbochargers are manufactured by Napier, and this engine is fitted with four of them.
Just listen to those turbos sing!
Edited *Incorrect statement*
PantherSerpahin huh. Ok, learn something new every day.
They're definitely turbos, made by Napier. There are 4 of them, each serving 4 cylinders.
UppyJC Now I'm confused, but I have to go with you based on the sound.
TigerDude333 WTF do you mean dude? Turbos are loud and you can clearly hear them in this video.
Hey, the video is BACK!
This is still one of my all time favourite train videos!
Many thanks for this!
Rick - USA
Love the sound of those turbos.
Wow I first listened to this vid 12 years ago & I still love it
We had English Electric diesels in Australia, and the South Australian Railways (SAR) had these 16 cyl 4 turbo versions in their 900 class, when maintained they started very quickly, probably in about quarter of a revolution, a great engine.
that whistle on tickover brings back memories i lived next to deltic lines as a kid in the 70's
DONT KNOW WHY BUT I LOVE TO LISTEN TO TRAIN STARTING UP!!!
Videos like this, and you guys who know about these incredible machines, just amaze me. As a hobby, I restore the old 2-cylinder John Deere tractors and have difficulty remembering the firing order :) I cannot imagine what it must be like to work on these grand engines. Thanks for posting this.
Dick Day
Norfolk, Nebraska USA
Remembering the firing order on a 2 cyl? doesnt it have to be 1-2
Yes. Note the smiley face following this statement.@@Knucklehead4400
Looks like it was holding that smoke in it's lungs for a long time!
The sound of a Deltic brings my childhood rushing ack. I lived in England and loved to hear them go by pulling a train under load. What a sound !
This one is a Class 40 not a 55 (Deltic)
thats not a deltic its a v16 english electric class 40,
That sounds fantastic! Thanks so much for sharing, I could listen to it all day!
Oh thanks man, that's an insane displacement.
Damn this engine sounds beautiful.
it's a wicked sound alright. bloody beautiful
Wow! What a sight, the sound is great!
Great sound !
Not heard that whistlin' since I was at Guide Bridge back in the early 80s.
Bring back the good old days !
Thanks for the vid. Just wish I had some of all my excursions.
Guide Bridge. Awesome location. The Class 40 sound is just about the finest I know of. Quad turbo V16. How good can it get?
Awesome video.
Love the start and clag.
These are the real locomotives.
Excellent ! thanks for posting.
I rode behind the "Green Howards" when I first went to England in 1980, London-Hull, there was nothing like that VROOM sound they put out...a Fairbanks-Morse x three, incredible!
Oh my God - what a beutiful sound - music!
@Triplex5014 Most diesel-electrics use the generator, some latter Alcos used an air-starter. My guess is that the first four or five tries here were done with the cylinder cocks open to prevent firing, in order to pre-lube and get possible jacket water out of the cylinders (a necessity with EMD's). When the last try comes, it fires right up. And I love it, as I said a long while ago, this beast's an Alco in quadraphonic!
I used to drive a fuel truck powered by a Cat 3208 which is a naturally aspirated V8. It was15 years old at the time and had spent alot of it's time idling. I would leave it running at high idle for about 15 minutes just to blow all the white smoke out of it due to oil setting in around the piston rings while it sat overnight. It ran fine once I did that. Likewise this tired old locomotive. Happy trails old friend.
Ruston V16's. Same engines are installed on tugs, 'Shaldar' & 'Tirrick' where I work. I must get some video of a start up and post on here. They sound exactly like this when coming to life.
Instead of batteries, ours start with compressed air blasted into the cylinders in sequence to turn the engine, and are kept heated to a constant temperature, so fire up intantly, run smoothly, and may be put to hard work right away.
Glad to this vid back. Its an all time favorite of mine!
'love the smell of diesel first thing in the morning.... it smells like....Victory!
This whistle takes me back to Crewe in the 70's and also the North Wales Coast Line.
My mum and dad were on the beach, I was sat on Rhyl Station, brilliant.
Very nice indeed ,when Brittania Ruled !!!! Just memories and tears now , ta ta U K 'twas a good place to be a few decades back . I remember 1980 New Street Station stood right next to Deltics starting up , thought I'd get suçked into the grilles !!! Scary but amazing when your 9 , very fond mamaries ....
my friend I have NO wish to start some sort of argument going here BUT there was a feasibility study done way back in 1949ish that proved steam trains could run more efficiently and less polluting than diesels (they've actually done it in Switzerland ..true) .. If you have a valid point to make please make it BUT please there is NO need to be insulting or rude in your comments its brings you down not me and if I am a tree hugger I'm proud of it
Bless
mike clarke The diesel engine is simply more efficient about 50% & it actually pollutes less. Look up coal fly ash.
+mike clarke Terrible pollution here. These old diesel and steam engines should be cut for scrap and melted down to prevent this horrible smoke which should not be allowed in the 21st C.
heelfan1234....you have made the same comment on quite a few of these videos....Diesel is here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it.Anyway,what happens when there's a power cut or there's damage to overhead power lines due to storms or vandalism?What do they use to keep the railways running?Diesel locomotives
Yes that's true, but the cost of maintaining a steam engine far out ways the new stuff
Oh man, gotta love the sound of those turbos. I'd drive that around just to listen to them all day lol.
Love these Deltic engines originally designed for submarines. They are supercharged not turbocharged as some people have thought, I have worked on these engines for many years with three crankshafts, eighteen cylinders and thirty six pistons. A nightmare to work on.
Everyone seems to think they hear a turbine whine. I know they're supercharged like radial aircraft engines to get an air charge into the manifolds. I read somewhere they had turbo chargers.
That's a 40 not a Deltic
Either insufficient compression, not enough advance in injection timing, or, it needs glow plugs. Once warmed up, I'll bet it runs smooth as silk, and burns perfectly clean. This is undoubtedly a cold start. I have to admit, I do like the sound!
Can't rev it up till the oil warms a bit.
Class 40 shows how to 'REALLY VAPE'
ArcturanMegadonkey l
Excellent !! amazing sound, a close second to the fab twin napier. Thx for sharing
OMG. What a beast of a machine.
used to drive a detroit v-12 that was just as cranky. Once it started and was hunting, go inside shed and keep dogs company until it warmed up and was idling normally. Neat post.
That's exactly the sound I used to hear at the small local station near Blackpool called Layton station, when these things start sing their song you Never forget, it was great I loved it. 😊😃👉😲😎
Those turbos are amazing.
When the camera panned to the right at 2:25 and showed front of the train.... I half expected to see some dude using a crank to roll the engine over....😋
Or you'd see someone with jump leads hooking it up to a shunter
I love that sound, I know the smoke isn't good, but it's beautiful!
WOW, this is the symphony of power...
beautifull sound.
God I remember having to start a road full of those things on shed duty, winters morning and prep for a weeks running, still a nice engine to drive.
it was just the nature of that particular one. this one is music to the ears.
Sounds like a giant monster snoring when it idles lol
i could listen to that all day.
...just the sound of priming the pumps and draining the cylinders are music to my ears!
I love the sound of these oldtimers starting up. The smoke the whine of the turbos.
Built in a time when silencers were for girls. Thank the Lord.
love the "cklunck sound of a diesel engine starting when it is cold!
Love that sound.
Man, I could listen to that hunting idle for hours and not tire of it! Listen to those turbo's wake up!
Sulzer V-16 with four turbo's if I'm not mistaken.
Awesomw video. Thanks for sharing with us.
Rick - Wisconsin - USA
English electric v16 not sulzer
I want that for my daily commuter. The grumpy giant sound makes well worth rising 2 hours earlier every day to make for cold start.
That's me starting in the morning too.
Class 40 - used to drive them! Never had one this cold before thought, mega surprised the batteries weren't totally flattened.
Love the sound of EE turbos spooling up!
i can smell the easy start from here :)
Anyone who knows anything about diesel engines would not be surprised by this video. I'm not sure what would've been unexpected....
Listen to those turbos whine. So sweet.
Diesel: The clean alternative to coal powered steam locomotives.
+Killian Keane well, better Than waiting 90 Minutes for steam pressure to build
+Macin toshiba 90 minutes? You're hoping! It's usually around four hours, at least. You'd maybe get away with three if it's a particularly small loco.
I had a cool dream one-time that I got to restore an old locomotive that wasn't all that big, so I only kept one engine in it and changed-out its drivetrain to a Semi-truck drive system and had that as "my truck" for a while.
Weird dream, but it was cool at the time.
The best English Electric by far - love the Vee 16's
Diesel Gewitter mit Turbo Jodeln. Ein Symphonie für sich.
VW clean diesel power at work.With cheat software removed.
Yeah, because your 6L engines are better.
Engine controls by Lucas, the Prince of darkness.
Add blue
Brilliant! i had speakers up quite loud , i was kinda pretending i was stood infront of it what a great sound!
Amazing! beautiful sounding.
@vai2iant : Yep it is 4 stroke. It's a 247 litre V16, 4 valves per cylinder, turbocharged, diesel engine with direct injection. It produces (correct me if I'm wrong) 2000bhp at 1000rpm.
These engines were not designed to start well from cold, I believe they have a quite low compression ratio to reduce peak pressures.
I feel the same way trying to wake up early some mornings.
Diesen Sound liebe ich. Der Diesel Nagel vor sich hin und der Turbo jodelt.
big old turbos sining there ring out!! sweet
Diesel stinks like hell, but watching these beasts NEVER gets old!
i love the sound that the turbos make
Those turbos sounds awesome!
Grant Gilbert don't they just!
That's how I feel before my first cup of coffee!
Imagine being woken up by that int he morning!! Brilliant :-D
Best sound in the world :)
I was all cosy sleeping rough in the shed behind when this fucking thing woke me up at 5.30am..
Sweet EE music...never gets old! :)
I love the sound of turbo charger
These engines are fitted with superchargers not turbochargers
Bob W what are the differecnes between them?
Tom Smith A turbocharger get's it's power from the exhaust gases of the engine whereas a supercharger is usually belt driven from the engine.
got it,thx
Super chargers are normally belt driven on small engines and gear driven on large engines
Love the sound of those old 2 cycle sub engines
are they 2 cycle ?
@@jchristian8413 Nope, 4 stroke
Diesel power! Beautiful!
Somebody designed that engine, then showed it to his boss for the first time, and he was like 'yeah this sounds like a really good idea. Let's build a train around it' :D
Now that's one hell of a start-up!
D335 is the number of the beast...
Cook thanks :) Man it almost looks exactly like this place over here in the states...amazing :)
Highly popular with local residents - NOT !
I don't give a fuck
grate vid from a few few years a go its lke its running on fire mote desial goood to see a
classic desial running and good to see a saved loco from scrapper
That is awesome.. you can just feel the grunt..
It seems the prophecy on smoke breathing metal dragons was spot on. lol
Cold starting, old diesel.
How can these and the deltics be so ugly yet so beautiful to the eyes and ears. Top video. It left me in tears. I felt I was hand cranking it (the engine that is). I'm exhausted. It's such a relief when you to hear it firing on all or almost all cylinders.
The cold-morning diesel start-up procedure:
Check all fluids...
Check battery condition...
Say a prayer, ahead a tear...
Turn the switch, count to six, then engage the starting-gear!
Sounds like my 1969 Cutlass trying to start in the middle of winter.
Makes the hairs on my neck stand up! Beautiful sound