The Custodes are a *whole* different ballpark from the Astartes. Whereas a Space Marine is, for all intents and purposes, mass produced super-soldiers, the Custodes were literally hand crafted by the Emperor himself from birth.
Yeah, they are arguably the oldest creations of the Emperor, his personal companions. They are known to have appeared even during the earliest events of the Unification Wars. Custodes are more akin to Primarchs than astartes in that they were individually hand-crafted from the ground up rather than recruited. I doubt there even was a standardized creation process.
@@wulferikgebhardt5312 well technically speaking their is "new" custodes still produced, but the production process is definitely harder, and is literally tailored for the subject that will receive it, and the selection process for the child that will be turned into a custodes start WAY younger than for SM, and they're almost completely remodeled at a cellular level. in the end all we know about the process is it's one of the most secret of the imperium only know by the most inner circle of the so called imperial household and that it requires really youg children.
@@kalzhae I didn't know that. I thought the Emperor made his 10.000 companions, got vegetable'd and that was it for the Custodes. Can you tell me where you got this from?
Technically, not every Space Marine even wears the full power armour. Most chapters have their Scouts wearing the lighter armour though since Cawl's introduction a new variant of power armour has been in use that adds stealth and mobility without sacrificing most of traditional power armour bonuses.
@@Tullaryx isn't the black carapace one of the last implant they receive and that's why scout don't use full power armor ? because unless i completely miss-read the codex the new stealthy armor are used by full fledged primaris, not scout, it's just that they were integrated into the scout company because they basically do the same task
@@kalzhae prior to the arrival of the Primaris Marines. Nearly all Chapters’ Scout were not full Astartes Brothers. To my knowledge, the Space Wolves Wolf Scouts were complete off script. As the Wolf Scouts were generally made up of veteran brothers. Advancement in wargear & the quality of Primaris pretty much turn Scout companies and/or squads as specialized full-fledged Marines.
@@TheBongReyes isn't what i said more or less ? i was mostly speaking about the scout themselves not the company. i know that now scout company incorporate non scout units that are full fledged marins themselves.
Kharn the Betrayer plowing and tearing apart bare handed and butt naked out of a Stasis pod multiple Fully Power Armor clad Chaos Space Marines, there to assassinate him. Is a CHAD moment that can gives a never ending Hard on...
He: " A Planet for just 1000 Men is just preposterous " Me: "Hmm, how about the Story about the two Guardsmen, who found the Combat Knife S.T.C. Didn´t each one of them got a Planet as a reward ?"
@@huntereyeofdarkwood5417 Yep, re checked the Story.The Mechanicus gave one Planet to each of them, and made them Gouveners. I don´t know if that´s a "clever" move. I personaly do my living with Video Editing, so settin me infront of a whole Planet suddenly to rule it... I don´t know. Since im not trained in ruling & Managing Hive Citys, im pretty sure I would f*** this up in no time. But the WH40K Universe is not know for it´s logic =D
Astartes chapters aren't the only people on their home worlds/worlds or recruitment. There are usually quite large populations of normal humans just doing human stuff with the astartes chapter recruiting a tiny fraction of the population as they are required.
This is true, and it has historic parallels. If we consider the classical knightly tale of the questing knight, he's almost invariably described as "solitary." At the same time, it is understood by the audience at that time that he's not actually alone; he has his retinue. This amounts to numerous servants, one or two squires, his wife perhaps, her maidservant, a falconer, a cook, and so on. Also, as mentioned, the fortress worlds needs a pool of humans to recruit from. The larger that population is, the more suitable candidates are likely to emerge.
Or a couple. For the sake of holding strategic objectives, having a space marine chapter stationed there is worth more than anything the Imperial Guard can muster (Unless its Cadia.)
It's also not really much of an issue since most of the Loyalist Legions only had a few thousand surviving Astartes, so the Second Founding would have consisted of around 100 Chapters, probably less. So that'd be less than 0.01% of the Imperium's real estate set aside for the use of the Space Marines.
such as Fenris homeworld of the Space Wolves chapter sadly due to the Cainus Helix they can only recruit from the population of that world and no where else
Well to be fair the reason that the Death Guard turned to Nurgle was because they COULDNT die. The plagues and diseases caused horrific tolls on their bodies and minds but their space marine bodies wouldn’t succumb to death so they suffered more and more without the sweet release of death.
Psychology of Space Marines: you might at first think that space marines are just hand waved as being impervious to the horrors of war, but they are not. They are just extremely resistant to it. A good example is the Iron Warriors before the heresy. They were the best siege experts in the galaxy, so they were continuously used for that role. While other legions raced across the stars, conquering planets and getting all of the honors, the iron warriors stayed behind and ground stubborn planets to dust. The constant strain and high casualties of siege warfare made the Iron Warriors extremely dour and cold. It didn’t help that when they found their primarch, he pretty much told them that they weren’t good enough. Eventually, this broke the legion, and they fragmented into pieces, first turning on the emperor, and then each other.
the armor is nervous system linked via the black carapace which is essentially an organ that's implanted later on basically they flay the aspiring space Marine and then put that layer of cabling black fibrous cabling underneath it and then restitch the skin back on (sometimes the black carapace which can be defect and doesn't work it's also a extra layer of protection similar to highly advance kevlar tendrils) and the tendrils are retractable and can disconnect from the armor.
Regarding the chapters getting their own planet, they weren't always the ONLY ones on those planets. The planets would often be used to recruit from and would sometimes help dictate the chapter's traditions and personal combat styles. Examples would be Fenris(Space Wolves) is a frozen wasteland on one side and boiling oceans on the other, and Baal(Blood Angels) is comparable to Mad Max in some cases. Both are extremely harsh and dangerous planets that result in high quality recruits, they are also the homeworld of their founding Primarchs. Others have planets that are bordering on a death sentence for anyone other than a Space Marine, meaning that no one else can live there even if they wanted to and the Imperium gave them the ok to colonize it. Some are also Fleet-based meaning that they have no planet and everything is done within their chapter's fleet, their recruits usually come from a small list of colonized planets that are usually very difficult and dangerous to live on. These planets are chosen because the fleet chapter doesn't have the option of providing a harsh environment on a homeworld so they need them "pre-adapted" so to speak. Every chapter has different traditions and methods of recruitment as a result of their combat styles, whether they're plant-based or fleet-based, if they are planet based it's based on how dangerous that planet is or if the recruits are locals or come from other planets. There are so many different ways that recruitment works that you could make up the recruitment methods of a chapter to be nothing but full on torture and it would make sense.
Grey Knights are Astartes, the only difference between them and the rest of the chapters is where their geneseed is from. As for the Custodes, only up until recently have they become a fighting force again. For the last 10,000 years, they've been inside the Palace and very rarely did they leave. As for some of your other questions/statements, here's a bit of info. The final geneseed organ, called the Black Carapace, allows the Space Marine's armor to interface with him and it acts more like a second skin. Anyone can use power armor, but they're generally slow and clunky. A Space Marine moves as if he's wearing nothing. As for a planet for 1000 men, they need to recruit and the planet will usually be where they do so. If it's 1 in a million men can become an Astartes, they need the numbers. And usually the planet is a terrible place to live, to provide th best possible recruits.
That is true, but I suppose the focus here are on "normal" Space Marine creation, and the Grey Knights are special snowflakes in that regard. As for the Custodes they are custom made by the Emperor like super cars, and their process of being created is therefore not the same at all.
@@Mamurai yeah. An Astartes is taken as a child, no older than 14 and usually at around 8 years old. A Custodes is taken as an infant and torn apart and rebuilt through alchemy and the Emperor's machines.
well there's Baal homeworld of the Blood Angels an irradiated hell hole of a planet then there's Fenris homeworld of the Space Wolves a frozen hell hole of a planet only the Ultramarines recruit from a comfortable planet 😒
@@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Iron Hands come from a planet with constant, massive earthquakes. Salamanders from a planet that's pretty much Mustafar. Imperial Fists and Dark Angels recruit from a multitude of worlds. White Scars from Chigoris, a world that before being ravaged by Chaos and the Red Corsairs was not that bad of a place.
@@austindow9850 well, at least the Ultramarines have nice enough worlds to recruit from. Also, Space Wolves tend to recruit later than other chapers (or at least they did in old lore, not sure if they changed it). Ragnar was recruited to begin the process at 16, and the youngest person amonst the 100+ people at his recruitment camp was 14.
@@zhentable if we are talking about which of the two would give you a somewhat painless death I too would go for the world eaters because at least there a small chance they will kill you quickly while the night lords if given the chance would torture you for weeks or months at which point death would be a welcome release but the night lords will probably deny you that mercy.
@@oiwithyou Both original Legions were "violence with a a point", however the chaotic approach of the world eaters is what would qualify them best for wanton violence. Whereas the Night Lords used violence and stealth to produce the maximum amount of terror within a foe, while world eaters are mostly content with just slaughtering them.
@@CombatVeteranReacts It is, and he also have a currently ongoing series on the different types of assassin's in the imperium, the different planets, and also a full beginners guide to explain what 40K is, etc. Other great channels that i would recommend are Majorkill, Bruva Alfabusa, and Oculus Imperia.
I second that! Its one of my favourite Leutin's video's. Luetin really nails the grim universe with his voice and extensive knowledge. Lots of correlation can be found between our past and common life of the imperium.
The last implant an Astartes receives is the Black Carapace, basically a partially mechanical second nervous system which links directly with their Power Armor, turning it into essentially a second skin for the wearer
@Combat Veteran Reacts To a point, the powered armour plate is connected to the warrior on a semi biological level. They are literally plugged into the suit. On the body of the Marine are multiple ports that link into the central nervous system. He thinks, there for it moves. Or he can see it or smell it. Its called the Black Carapace. It is a near bullet proof subdermal skin implant that covers the whole of the body on maturation. However, this means that they can interface directly with the power armour as if it were a second skin. But, if the armour is damaged or in some way rendered inoperable, they can remove that piece of the plate or replace as needed.
There's definitely a difference between passionate violence and what I can only call cold, calculated violence. The first can be a genetic or conditioned defense against trauma, and has no capacity for consent, awareness, or control, while the second is a deliberate thing anyone can theoretically learn.
The Imperial Guard is built in a similar way. The Imperial Guard does not work so much in a mixed fashion (Mobile infantry, Infantry, artillery, etc) because that would allow them to be flexible and survive alone if they fell to Chaos. They built their army so that they made large parts less flexible, not as a flaw, but as a feature.
Best part? No 2 Chapters do things the same. The Blood Angels basically put your in a coffin for the changes, the Space Wolves' Wolf Priests are both the Chaplains and the Apothecaries.
Short answer? At the end of their training they get one last gene seed called the Black Carapace that is put under their skin. It grows there and links with their nerves and access ports are cut into them to link to their armor. Prior to this they can use a form of armor, Scout Armor, which is not powered but it gets them used to it. Now, not all of the Chapters have the same gene seeds - some are missing some entirely (the one that lets them spit venom or acid is one that fades in and out) - and I think one or two of the successor chapters don't have the Black Carapace gene seeds.
24:19 that's actut not exact, a chapter can't contain more than one thousand of marins, but chapter also have a literal army of serf, servitor, worker, techpriest, priest etc. and in general if the world in questions already have population on it it remains on the planet but are now administered by the chapter instead of the administratum
9:49 they are interfaced to their armor through the Black Carapace which allows them to wear the armor like it is a second skin. Though to my knowledge there is no mention of a connection where waste disposal is concerned, but there would almost have to be something like a catheter or miniature waste receptacle to be able to process it.
Custodes have a COMEPLETELY different creation method, they are each an individual work of art, a masterpiece, where as the spacemarines are basically mass produced generic tools by comparison.
The codex Astartes is both a book of both rules and regulations, but also book of doctrine and strategy, there is 16 solutions for every problem roboute guilliman could think of. It was supposed be a baseline so that way chapter masters could develop new strategies off it. But some chapters and space marines take it too seriously. Captain Titus of the ultramarines said it's was less a book of regulations and more a book of guidelines, half of the chapter being very strict on it. One chapter was destroyed by elder xenos because of how strict they were. Other chapters were a lot less favorable of it including the space wolves and the black templars who followed it only through a loophole so they could recruit above the 1000 space marines per chapter rule.
This is a second comment. Something that isn't worthy of a video, but might be interesting to you. "Space Marine Markings"... Hopefully one of the first hits on google (image search) is a list of some of the symbols used on their armor. Not all artists know these things well. But when they do, we tend to notice it. This is just a small one that isn't generally listed. Space Marines (non-chaos) have their chapter on their Left shoulder, and their "role" on their Right shoulder. Knowing just this can give you some insight into the chapters "Black Templar" and "Deathwatch". (I'm sure if you ever ask for it, you can get sources for more of this, and similar things)
Non codex compliant chapters may have their own system of markings. Blood Angels for example denote battle field role by helmet color and the right shoulder displays their company marking.
Astartes homeworlds are not only populated by Space marines, there are regular humans managing lots of menial jobs and basic infrastructure, and tech priests doing mechanical work. It's just that the Space marine chapter functions as the planetary government of that planet, and the chapter master is the planetary governor. Also, sometimes the "homeworld" for a chapter is a smaller celestial body, like a moon, or an asteroid. Some Astartes chapters based entirely within orbital or free roaming spacecraft as well.
I think the best explanation of the difference between Astartes and Custodes is this: an Astartes is a sword produced with a mold by an apprentice, while a Custodian is a masterwork handcrafted spear produced by a true master of his craft
20:10 the longest that a space marine (that isn’t a dreadnaught) has lived would be Commander Dante, current chapter master of the Blood Angles, who is over 1,500 years old. The oldest dreadnaught is Bjorn the Fell Handed, a member of the Space Wolves, who is over 10,000 old and has fought side by side with the primarch of the Space Wolves, Leman Russ.
there was a salamander that got trapped when his ship crashlanded he just kindof sat in his chair watching over a set of relic armor for about 8k years its i think the only marine to ever die of old age as he passed away shortly after he was found
@@ashardalondragnipurake yes I am aware of Gravius, I just wanted to give the more common answer to the question of who is the oldest space marine. Also Gravius is dead. Also he didn’t die of old age, an apothecary gave him the emperor’s peace because he couldn’t get out of his chair and the planet was about to explode.
@@joshtompkins1538 you dont lose a record just because you die damn glory stealing dante still needs to live a long time until he gets that old and can call himself the oldest in history
Yep, they fight just fine without the armor on (minus the benefits of having the armor on of course). Out of combat they go around unarmored typically. As it's been said they interface directly through their black carapace implant to the armor. Humans without the implant wear power armors time to time but don't have the response time/control Marines do due to a lack of direct interface. They can stomp around, punch, shoot etc but don't have the second skin feel Marines have with their power armor. Full fledged marines who lead Scout Marines (who haven't undergone the full organ implanting process, especially the Carapace for the armor interface) regularly enter combat without a full set of armor on. They wear just the chest piece like the scouts/trainees wear.
Personally I’d go with UltraMarines or SpaceWolves UltraMarines because they are one of the(IMO) most efficient and reasonable Chapters/Legions and they actually planned for what to do AFTER the Imperium didn’t need Legions of Astartes Also Guilliman is a Badass and def. one of the best Primarchs overall(again this is just my Opinion, I think Guilliman is one of the most reasonable Primarchs and he actually planned for after the Imperium wouldn’t need Legions of Astartes, he just seems overall to be very practical) SpaceWolves because they are absolute Badasses and also I have some Viking Ancestors so bonus points for that
The Custodes are made through a completely different process, a good way to think about it is that the Custodians are each an individual masterpiece of genetic engineering, where as the space marines represent the ability to mass produce super soldiers, the imperium has 1000 space marine chapters and assuming they are all following the codex astartes and each have 1000 space marines, the imperium would have around 1 million space marines, That also does not include the traitor marines, the custodes always have and always will be the 10,000
14:50 besides genetics there’s also the factor of the techno barbarians and thunder warriors were from and for a time of strife. The nurture probably played as much, if not more of a part in their ‘instability’ as their nature. Space Marines prefer to recruit from worlds that already have a martial or combat bent, and it was said before though kind of dropped by the wayside that some chapters (and even legions before) would recruit from the most brutal and violent criminals on penal worlds.
What I like in your reactions of 40k is how you compare it to other fiction, real history and to real world. Bit of over analysis to compare what some others do, but to me that's just great! Love your work, keep it coming! I'd love to see some point your reactions to orkz as everybody knows: DA GREEN IZ DA BESTEST!!! WAAAAAAGGHHH!
Custodies are more like a “personal royal guard” unit, than a fighting force. 1-on-1 they are better than space marines and grey knights, but they never leave the palace. Only recently have some left and performed missions due to the return of Roboute Guilliman who’s now Lord Regent of Holy Terra, and as the primarch of administration, he won’t waste resources.
I racomand also reacting to Helsreach is a Warhammer fan film and is amazing it talk about the war on Armageddon, and I think you might be interested in it from the point of battle style and the narration of that history.
@@tacitus5665 yes they are great films too, but personally i like more Grimaldus story because i like when the enemies sorround you and you must fight with your brother for not die. The emperor protects.
The armor does in fact interface directly with their body through an implant call the black carapace. Visually they are several black ports that have pushed through the skin. A space marine's already impressive strength is augmented by electrically driven artificial bundles of muscle, the black carapace allowing the marine to use the electric muscles as if they were a natural part of their body. This is usually what accounts for a marine's impressive agility despite wearing a suit that makes them the equivalent of a tank. Should the power to the muscles fail a marine can still use his armor, albeit at a reduced capacity as his natural muscle is now bearing the weight of the ceramite plates.
There are many cases where space marines fight with out armour, in many case they have been captured by enemy and manage break free. Like Brother Cloten of Blood Angels who was captured and torture by Fabius Bile and left to die in one of his laboratories, who then did break free while succumbed to Black Rage and Red Thrst and killed all mortal followers of Bile. Blood Angel Strike Force did find him feasting on remains of his enemies... He then greeted them and said: "Welcome brothers, join to my feast..."
The mental reinforcement is not absolute. Space Marines can and will break under heavy mindbreak via chaos or just from too long in the line of duty. Danteis a thousand years old and in his last major battle wanted to die so much he hallucinated Sanguinius and begged him to let him die.
So yes the Space Marines armor is connected to their nervous system via the Black Carapace which is why they can move so fluidly with the armor system. When it comes to the whole waste excretion thing a Space Marine is perfectly capable of dropping a log all on his own, but what the power armor allows them to do is take their waste and recycle it into nutrients that are then injected into the Marine making them have to ingest food and water much less frequently in the field. Also with the whole genitals thing my personal opinion/head cannon is that while they have all the proper piping to use them they've been subjected to so many chemical treatments that theres no way it all still works.
My favourite part is actually learning about all the unique mutations that occur - for example, one mutation leads to excess bone growth which causes bone like claws and armour to grow around the marine but at the cost of extreme pain
To answer your question: yes, space Marines are neurologically connected to their armor. However, they can remove the armor (other than their neuro implants).
For lore, I would reccomend watching more Luetin09 videos. 40k theories is also quite good, but he deals more with theories and speculation. There are a lot of people who give misinterpreted and inaccurate lore, but Luetin is extremely accurate. Arch warhammer's videos are way too long for you to react to, especially because you offer your own thoughts, besides which he tends to ramble a lot and interject speculation without prefacing that he's speculating. Oculus Imperia is another great youtuber, but his lore videos are done in a roleplaying perspective of an Imperial recordkeeper.
I'm really enjoying your commentary. you're obviously a very well-read person even in things unrelated to soldiery. which is a very nice paralel to how astartes are sometimes depiced in some novels. one example is in Horus Rising (which I'd recommend you read, because it's an excellent book), where even line astartes are expected to read philosophy (among other things) to become warrior-scholars, so they have a place in the imperial society once the Great Crusade is finished, and peace is brought to the galaxy. obviously the events of the Horus Heresy threw a spanner in the works.
Leutin09 is a great channel. You might want to look up his titan or give city videos next. Custodies, yes. Grey knights are space marines though. Just a special group. Gene seed is likely a combination of gene alteration, nano tech, and possibly warp sorcery. This is because there are a few more mechanical sounding organs, and some hints here and there to some supernatural element. They have an organ that allows them to interface with their power armor like a second skin, meaning that they can ignore most of the safety things that normal humans require to not hurt themselves, and are not clumsy with it. That said, they are not dependent on it to survive. Just to not get shot. There has been some instances of space marines breeding with humans, but the offspring was purely human. The Emperor wanted to make sure that the Imperium belonged to humanity, not trans/human super soldiers. The custodies were there, but were a small elite force. You could not make a proper army out of them, nor are they made to properly work as a large army. The thunder warriors were more powerful than a space marine, but had a few problems like spontaneously dying or insanity. The way I understand it (no expert) Sociopath: no empathy or remorse. Psychopath: illogically violent. I think you are right. Those things are different (those two types of violence). There is actually no known life span for a space marine. They all just eventually die violent deaths. The imperium actually did a ton of stuff to try and prevent future Horus Heresies. Things like fire-walling the naval (space) and ground forces of the imperial guard, and possibly the mechanics as well (or at least the Titans). Also, all but the most loyal and tested imperial guard regiments are not allowed to have combined arms anymore. This way, it is easier to counter them should they turn traitor. And finally, they introduced the commissars (if they were not already a thing) to ensure loyalty, bravery, and competency of the guard one way or another. The space marines do not just have the entire planet to themselves, unless it was uninhabited before. It’s just a base of oppositions. They could only interact with the locals for things like recruitment and supplies, out right rule the planet, or anywhere in between. They can also bed fleet based and move around. One problem with space marine gene seed is that it is asexual reproduction (sort of, the base human was made normally). That means any mutation or defects will be passed down if that gene seed isn’t taken out of circulation if you will. Which is tough because they have to wait for new gene seed, or dip into reserves if they have any.
my understanding is that the armor is just armor and it can be removed for servicing at no physiological inconvenience to the marine. But while worn, it does capture and reprocess any waste from the marine's body (urine, sweat, feces) to reclaim the water.
a note about the Thunder Warriors, the talk of stability has to do more with enhancing performance at the cost of lifespan a Thunder Warrior would, without external support, only live for a couple decades, built given they spent those decades in heavy heavy combat that time was moot. in Stargate SG-1 there was a warrior caste called the Kull Warriors that had a similar principle. their physiology was so jacked their lifespan was mere months
The homeworlds also have civilians, so it’s not just 1000 people on a planet. The fortress-monastery is where the marines actually live, which is basically just one city on the planet
The Custodes were created around the same time as the Thunder Warriors. However, the way they were created was vastly different and far more difficult in terms of making Custodes. That’s why there will never be more then 10,000. The Thunder Warriors are like proto-Astartes, by having normal humans converted to Thunder Warriors. This is different from the tube method of crafting Custodes. Also, there’s a comment in that Creation of Space Marines video where Luetin misspoke and the Thunder Warriors were made to fight the Techno Barbarians. The Techni Barbarians being remnants of humanity that fight and control their own pockets of territory on Terra, basically warlords.
Space marine armor is directly connected to their nervous system through an organ called the black carapace. They can engage in combat and survive outside of their armor for extended periods of time. Therefor I believe they can excrete normally but it’s not something that is brought up often. Some background on “the age of strife” that was mentioned in passing. At the most bare bones all interstellar travel became impossible for a long period of time. At the same time many planets did not independently produce enough resources or food to support their full population including earth. (Imagine New York City becoming isolated and needing to support itself for years) thus the majority of societies collapsed and huge amounts of info and technology were lost. Even in the 10k years later not all the lost planets have been found.
The power armor interfaces with the final organ transplant, which is called the Black Carapace. This organ is implanted by literally skinning the aspirant, laying the black Carapace on like a skin, and then sewing the skin back on the poor bastard. They don't remove the, ahem, "twig and berries." However, the space marines are rendered infertile and have no sex drive after the process is complete. The custodes are the Secret Service, the astartes are spec ops/Rambo on space steroids.
20:32 I think that’s also why Astartes are, almost by design, a separate warrior caste. They -can’t- go back to normal society, one because they’re no longer quite human, and two they have to witness and inflict some of the most horrific and gruesome violence one could see. There’s horrors that individual marines have seen that would break even the strongest warrior today, or even a guardsman (see the daemonculaba, or don’t) and yet they keep going out of an indoctrinated sense of duty and purpose. A space marine committed to a task WILL succeed or WILL die trying.
I do like how a few select chapters like the Salamanders and to an extent the Ultramarines actually do interact with their planets society to a fair degree (lots of Salamanders literally live part time civilian lives when not on missions).
@@ShadowGhost0117 that is a nice touch, but even still there’s an anecdote from an Ultramarine story where they were at a noble’s party as a bit of ‘mandatory fun’ for themselves, and they conduct themselves in engaging in small talk like they’re running room clearing drills.
Chest wall implant “black carapace”, allows complete neurological integration between astartes and armour. The power armour’s fibres and servos operate in complete unison with the astartes brain signal’s. The signal to move the muscles to walk or lift their arm, also signal the power armour to do the same.
Custodes are glorified body guards, and the Grey Knights pretty much only fight chaos (Daemons, traitor marines, cultists etc) while the space marines does it all.
bodyguards who are second only to primarchs and hero-level astartes characters. Grey Knights concentrate on Daemonic opponents but they can and have fought against none daemonic enemies and bested them. Grey Knights psychic abilities will still devastate non-daemonic targets.
well custodian being glorified body guard is a little underestimating them. even since HH they were able wreck almost any threat but until recently weren't allowed to leave the palace. but from the few fight they took part of they're monstrous, even compared to space marins
@@kalzhae Tho they are the toughest troops the Imperium can field, they dont fight for the Imperium, only the Emperor. And no one exept for them selfs kept them locked in the palace til Guiliman kicked them out to get some sun and get some fighting done.
@@prisregil well technically what kept them in the palace was an imperial edict, not themselves, but yeah they only serve the emperor not the imperium, but all that changed when the emperor allowed Big G to command them, now their is some custodes that fight with the imperium instead of just protecting the palace and only the palace
Space Marines are totally fine out of armor. They wouldn't want to fight without it, but they can and will if needed. When used he armor is connected to their nervous system, but it's not a permanent connection.
Connects is via the black carapace. This is a semi-organic polymer layer added under the skin to bridge the induction ports mounted in the skin to the armor. It is possible some of the abdomen ports include functions to handle waste excretion in armor. It is worth noting that in the Horus heresy books the marine barracks include showers and latrines. I can’t imagine why these ships abs bases would include a latrine if the marines literally didn’t need it. As to sex…one of the most famous space wolves literally goes out wenching after his first deployment. Like goes out and gets laid, and one of his fellows kinda gives him a look over it, but doesn’t press the matter. The general impression I’ve always had is that Marines are fully intact and likely even functional. They just don’t care. To them a woman’s beauty is like the beauty of a finely crafted Bolter or work of art. That being said, I’ve seen one flirt, once again Horus Heresy Novel. He was doing so expressly because of his opinion the woman he was speaking to would respond favorably and it was achieve his machinations quickly. Also, unless the emperor’s children regrew them after their fall, which is possible, then they certainly still have the plumbing and it’s all still hooked up. I’m inclined to suspect it works Becuase none of the EC where shocked, they just where surprised by how fun it was.
If u look at how normal(ultramarine) space marine chapter structure & its each company structure, they actually a bit more than 1k astartes inside 1 chapters...
Unlike a sea of unintresting react channels, this man discusses the concepts and refers to things that have similarities with things in real life. Good job there my dude :)
20:30 I cant reference it but early lore, like a timetable for marines that aren't on assignment blowing something up said they spend 23.99 hours a day praying, practicing, or being hypno-indoctrinated/mindwiped with 5 minutes of free time they can dedicate to something productive or virtuous of their own free will, like extra prayers or reading. Which is actually war more grim dark than most takes in current 40k. Your whole chapter of 1000 super soldiers are constantly being killed and replaced. But you replace them and the new guy that sits down in the brother Landis hypnobooth is the one that is called brother Landis now. Like maybe the chapter master and chaplains or medics know what's going on but everyone else are just literally cogs that get replaced constantly with fresh bodies but the institutional memory of the chapter removes all their individuality
You could argue that the greatest of all the superhuman traits that astartes possess, is the extreme levels of mental discipline that even the most baseline astartes has.
During the crusade astartes were once considered the basic soldier and were supported by the solar auxilia who did more of the true grunt work, such as infiltration, assisting the astartes as human meat shields, as a form of police to ensure a planets loyalty remains after it is conquered, as for the mechanacus which was know as the mechanacum was actually more liberal and more progressive than the modern day mechanacus
The one thing about the Emperor of Mankind’s mentality is due to the fact that he has been on Earth since the Stone Age, so he’s seen both the best and the worst in humanity.
The "1000 people on a planet" implies that they have a lot of normal people in their service to run facilities/ships and logistics but nobody ever talks about the housecleaners in 40k :-). They also have people from the Mechanicus or other factions there, so this starts to become the size of an organization/state instead of just 1000 dudes sitting in a castle. The recruiting worlds often are pretty inhospitable which works as a pre-selection. One book about the Dark Anegsl describes that a primitive tribe prepared his young men for the test when the Space Marine gods come. The chapter sends a chaplain and the young people do some dangerous hunting/fighting until very few remain as candidates. The winners are then taken one by one to a tomb and the chaplain told them that they did well and that one final test will be done which will be so painful that they may ask for being killed if they cannot bear it and that this is not shameful for them or their families. They got some injection (was it something in relation to geneseed?) or so, cannot remember - but those who suffered too much were killed by the chaplain and buried in the tomb. The others were taken to the ship to see the stars and to never return. I'd like to know how long it takes to teach these people everything important about the universe though. They don't even know what a toaster is but should end up with enough knowledge and intelligence that they themselves could run a state of humans, which is what some of the fallen Dark Angels did, Primarch-style. Selecting people just because they are strong sounds kind of dumb.
I'm sure it has been addressed but oh well. yes they can fight with no power armor and are still at that point as hard to kill as the hulk on pcp. they have been known to come back from non lethal head shots in weeks. also for the custodes show up a bit later at least in the form that you are thinking. first he got good at making super people with thunder warrior, then he got better and made the primarches and in that made his custodes guard. at least that is my understanding. fun thing about the lore and the books and stuff is it is all cannon because all info in the grimdark goes through redaction or chaos or just lies. also great job with the channel
The grey Knights are Astartes, just particularly psychicly sensitive ones, and specially trained, to combat threats of the warp, or fight in other very specific situations.
@@tacitus5665 well they’re pretty much Space Marines, but not like any other chapter. As they have no father primarch that all other chapters and even traitor legions have.
You talked about our military being somewhat hereditary these days. I can confirm to a point that all roads a family chooses may lead in similar directions. As my mother, and every male in my family for the last 4-5 generations excluding myself and my youngest uncle were Marines, and my uncle went Army, I have worked private security through a group contracted by ICE, and I now work hospital security, the job may be different but the goal is ultimately the same…in a sense. I once vowed to never become military personnel for any branch unless we see “safe and realistic” space travel and navies in our time. I would rather train and defend at home if ever someone is dumb enough to invade us like the Red Dawn movies, better to be prepared for the unlikely than to be unprepared at all. That and I couldn’t get through boot camp without being sentenced to death row or dying in training, I’m built for running away physically and I don’t take orders I give them. I’m not cut for that life and it’s fine, if I ever have kids I pray they will join if anything to have a better life.
The custodes are the ones that killed all of the thunder warriors. Custodes player here. Also custodes are the handcrafted version of a mass produced model.
13:37 The Astartes aren't affected biologically when it comes to emotions, temperament, and especially personality. etc. It is just *so* ingrained in them, by hypnosis, the Ecclesiarchy, etc. to serve the emperor that, generally apart from chaos influence/warpfuckery, an Astartes would never even think about hurting a fellow battle brother, or betraying the emperor. They are conditioned in MANY ways to endure the physiological and mental hardships of being an Astartes. As for the Thunder warriors (The one they were mentioning), They were created for one single purpose, War. Since the Empire of Man didn't exactly know how those first gene warriors would be, they posed a serious risk to themselves and others, and were thus very unstable. For an interesting read and the info about the Thunder warriors warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Thunder_Warriors
The origins of the Custodes are unclear, though early accounts from the Terran Unification Wars assert that the Custodes were around even before the Thunder Warriors, always guarding the Emperor. The theory goes that the Custodes came first, and the Thunder Warriors were an early attempt at simplifying the process for mass production. They succeeded in that regard, and many sources claim that the Thunder Warriors surpassed both the Custodes and the Astartes in terms of raw strength, but they were physically and mentally unstable, being prone to psychotic breaks and sudden organ failure. To that end, the Emperor created the Primarchs as imperfect copies of himself and based the template for the Space Marines on them. This development allowed the Space Marines to be mass produced with little inherent defects, and created 21 generals who surpassed the Custodes and the Thunder Warriors both physically and mentally, thus making them second only to the Emperor himself. There were complications later on, but that was mostly the result of external factors, like the Chaos Gods corrupting the Primarchs and their Gene-seed, creating mutations that spread across the Legions physically and psychically and made them more susceptible to the influence of Chaos and the Dark Gods. There were also other factors, like terrorist attacks on the Gene-seed stores on both Terra and Luna, experiments and modifications done before, during, and after the Horus Heresy thay lead to various strains of Space Marines, like the Raptors, but mostly ended in causing long-term damage to the Gene-seed samples that only became evident centuries or millennia later, most famously during the 21st Founding, better known as the Cursed Founding, although this was mostly due to experiments carried out by the Adeptus Biologis wing of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Ironically enough, Guilliman is actually to blame for a lot of this, as he issued a decree as the de facto Lord Commander of the Imperium after the Horus Heresy to hasten Gene-seed cultivation to recoup the losses suffered by the Loyalists Space Marines during the Heresy, but this rushed cultivation period ultimately lead to many of the long-term complications, such as several organs implanted during the conversion process atrophying to tge point of uselessness, such as the Betcher's Glands.
I don't know if it would hit too close to home or a social faux pas to ask, but could you react to baldemort's iron warriors video. I want to hear your opinion of them. For context, they had horrific attritional warfare that "dehumanized" them (if that is the right word for it when they are Astartes, but I digress) and they had to deal with the ancient practice of decimation. I am a Pharmacologist (different from a pharmacist think more research-oriented) and I have seen through my research 2nd or 3rd hand how horrific that is for the human psyche. I would sincerely appreciate hearing your opinion as an actual soldier/officer. It's hard to really understand some psychiatric patient's problems and create medication for them when you have the capacity to help (medical knowledge), but lack the context or life experience to comprehend and therefore try to match what exactly a patient needs to the chemicals/substances which might induce the desired effect. I apologize for the long-winded comment and question which will probably be buried in the comments section anyway, but it would be an interesting reaction and educational for me.
9:45 Yes, the Black Carapace implant, is a 20cm semi translucent organ that is implanted under the skin of the Marines chest, and it grows slowly, to cover his entire body. Its between the Skins and muscles and connectors apears on the thing, like USb ports if you will, that lets a MArine connect Neuraly to his armor. Making the Marine and the Armor one seemless unit, wich allows the marines to get the absolut maximum output of their Power Armors, and having the Armors in turn boosting further the allready formidable natural capabilities of the Marines. But even without a Power Armor, a SPace Marine can still easly, even barehanded kill dozens if not more of foes. Don't forget that they have the strenght of 6-8men, stamina and endurance, thats lets them fight for 72hours straight, nearly impervious to pain, with Blood that clots nearly instantly to avoid blood loss. If they arn't fighting a Chaos Marines, or anything more dangerous, then even naked, there is little that is actually a danger to a Space Marine.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Hello yeah thats is possible, i think actuall record for space marine is around 312 hours without sleep. Dont remeber specifics but it was achived by some space marines defending fortress under siege.
Chapterworld are most of the times rather deadly by 40K standarts with a "low" population (so 30-100 Million tops) and if a chapter gets 1 Aspirant (a young man 12-ish) from a 1000 canidates, they are extrem lucky. Some of the older codizes sad of 1000 aspirants 1 became a full fleshed Marine, you sea the necessity for it. In the Blood Trials of the Blood Raven (Dawn of War: Ascension) Gabriel Angelos gained 1 Aspirant from 10K candidates.
Yes, Space Marines, at least Ultramarines, have functional genitals. Libido is at the freezing point thought. The Black Carapace is combination of cybernetic implants and nervous system extension that interfaces with the Crysis like undersuit. Looks like Matrix slots.
Psychopathy is a mental disorder that causes the inability to connect, both emotionally, empathically and in some cases even intellectually to other creatures. Sociopathy is someone capable of empathy and emotional connection but has learned, most often due to outside factors, to hamper or distance themselves from said emotional and empathic responses. Btw, you should check out the 40k fan animation "The Raptor" it is fantastic.
Citizen it your your duty as a guardsman to watch the lore of Occulus Imperia as pertaining the details of the founding, history and tactics of each orginal space marine legion. Thought for the day: STRINGSTORM creates excellent hymnals to the emperor.
Can't wait till you see how in depth the lore is with Astartes. Grey Knights and Custodes are completely different processes so they don't show up here.
They can move in the armor even if it were powered down. And I don't have the source readily available, but I read that the Space Marines will wear their power armor on their back while recovering from wounds. (Not at all times, but as part some part of the process, while they are jogging... running... it's a bit fussy. But it was a significant distance... that I remember) (If the terminator armor were to be powered down, they would not be able to move it. In some part because of it's weight, but mostly just because it's more rigid)
Custodes ( 1:30 ) are for defense of terra and elite troup/guard of the emperor, they doesn't count as " fighting force ". grey knight are space marine the top of the top. but still they are space marine. And there is like 1 grey knight for 1000 space marine
sociopaths are cold violent, psychopaths have the incorrect emotions, and can be manipulative, but have hot anger. sociopaths dont plan, psychopaths do, and sociopaths crave power. psychopaths dont
Yup to the generation after generation being in the military. I am 4th or 5th generation to have served but only the 3rd generation to have fought in a war and, that is as far as I have managed to dig up but likely further back family has served. So I agree.
Custodes and Grey Knights are Space Marines. With Custodes having their Gene Seed from the Emperor rather than a Primarch. Grey Knights Gene Seed is unknown except to the Inquisition upper echelons, the Temple Secretum of the Officio Assassinorum (secret keeper assassins), or the Grey Knights leaders (some speculate given the amount of psychicers within the GKs that a certain one eye cyclops Primarch gene seed is used).
@@CombatVeteranReacts one could say that besides Logar he's responsible for much of the imperium woes after trying to call Big E via interstellar communication via ritual sacrifices and help from those within the warp to warn of Horus betrayal.... At the cost of breaching the webway portal directly to the Golden Throne on Earth.
Whether or not a space marine is castrated will in all likelihood vary from chapter to chapter based upon tradition. In any case, they will have mechanism for discarding biological waste, but due to their efficient metabolism they dont need to do it nearly as often as normal humans. Furthermore, their suits come with specialized recycling systems that can re-use waste and extend their effective operating times with no nutrient intake by frankly ludicrous amounts, literally years. Their armor does integrate with their biology, via the "Black Carapace", a special sub-dermal fullbody implant that allows their suit to perfectly monitor the marine's entire biology, and allows the marine to control their armor as if it was literally a second set of skin and muscles, including artificial nerve endings. For a space marine, the armor *is* their body. That said, they can certainly operate without it, at reduced capacity (but still far beyond normal humans). However the donning and removing of power armor can take a very long time unless it is heavily damaged, as it requires extensive mechanicus blessings to allow the machine spirit to function properly as well as careful management of its connection with the black carapace.
In order to be a space marine, you also have to be able to continue while your suit is non functioning (ie strong enough to still preform the job efficiently and effectively while carrying all the dead weight as if it where mostly functional).
just wanted to nerd-clarify that nucleotides are the building blocks of DNA & RNA, and amino acids are the building blocks of proteins! love your energy and thought process, and that you know when you don't know something-- that is really critical. Just got to the end, and wanted to add that genes that "destabilize" might be analogous to elements called "pseudogenes", which typically appear at first glance to encode a protein, but in reality cannot be expressed due to lacking critical elements (proper start/stop sites or lack of transcriptional enhancer sites, etc.) Some of these are mutated copies of other genes that never made it to full protein-coding status, while others can be genes that used to be expressed in common ancestors, but then lost their coding ability so that they're e.g. not actually expressed in humans. In W40K, the process of genetic selection and drift might be shaped by the Warp/Chaos Energy (genes accelerated to non-functionality or introduction of "corruptive" genes) or the Emperor/gene seed caretakers (magical/mythical protection against genetic degradation, introduction of novel genes, or reactivation of latent genes) perhaps.
The grey knights and the custodes are both technically space Marines. In fact the grey knights are blatantly space Marines. Custodes are the emperor's guardians so they have their own class.
yea space marines even without armor and weapons are still tough and strong enough to beat down anyone who thinks they are no longer a threat. when they are not in a war they are often back home in fortress monasteries where they train and chill, often wearing robes and trying to stay comfortable while being looked after by their serfs. space marines are even encouraged to sleep. while they can go prolonged periods of time without it thanks to having brain similar to some lizards, they can shut down some parts of it at a time without it effecting the whole, this does have a negative effect on the long run so they take few hours of actual sleep daily. despite their inability to dream. they do eat good food while at home as well, even alcohol is served. but its only for flavor because their over working bodies prevent intoxication. the ones who are being forged into space marines eat less complex foods, often jelly like substance with lots of nutrition value to encourage their physical mutation, but simple enough not to cause digestive track issues. because you just got your stomach held open by metal claws while some guys rearranged room to fit in extra organs.
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The Custodes are a *whole* different ballpark from the Astartes. Whereas a Space Marine is, for all intents and purposes, mass produced super-soldiers, the Custodes were literally hand crafted by the Emperor himself from birth.
From BEFORE Birth!
Also, they barely get involved with the rest of the Imperium. Only lately have they gotten out their hidey-hole and actually done stuff of note.
Yep, Custodes are basically a completely different beast.
The Astartes are like the best production models of super cars you can get. The Custodes are The Emperor's garage full of custom racers.
@@zhangeldy4097, after birth. In age around 4-6 years.
Custodes don't show up here because their recruitment process is completely different to a space marine's.
Yes, there's no gene enhancement, therapies or implantation. Custodes are pretty much molded down to the genetic, if not, atomic level.
Yeah, they are arguably the oldest creations of the Emperor, his personal companions. They are known to have appeared even during the earliest events of the Unification Wars. Custodes are more akin to Primarchs than astartes in that they were individually hand-crafted from the ground up rather than recruited. I doubt there even was a standardized creation process.
@@wulferikgebhardt5312 As said by Amon Tauromachian "I am a work of art, never to be repeated."
@@wulferikgebhardt5312 well technically speaking their is "new" custodes still produced, but the production process is definitely harder, and is literally tailored for the subject that will receive it, and the selection process for the child that will be turned into a custodes start WAY younger than for SM, and they're almost completely remodeled at a cellular level.
in the end all we know about the process is it's one of the most secret of the imperium only know by the most inner circle of the so called imperial household and that it requires really youg children.
@@kalzhae I didn't know that. I thought the Emperor made his 10.000 companions, got vegetable'd and that was it for the Custodes. Can you tell me where you got this from?
Space Marines can fight and function perfectly fine when buck-naked. The power armor just allows them to be even more terrifying.
Technically, not every Space Marine even wears the full power armour. Most chapters have their Scouts wearing the lighter armour though since Cawl's introduction a new variant of power armour has been in use that adds stealth and mobility without sacrificing most of traditional power armour bonuses.
@@Tullaryx isn't the black carapace one of the last implant they receive and that's why scout don't use full power armor ? because unless i completely miss-read the codex the new stealthy armor are used by full fledged primaris, not scout, it's just that they were integrated into the scout company because they basically do the same task
@@kalzhae prior to the arrival of the Primaris Marines. Nearly all Chapters’ Scout were not full Astartes Brothers. To my knowledge, the Space Wolves Wolf Scouts were complete off script. As the Wolf Scouts were generally made up of veteran brothers. Advancement in wargear & the quality of Primaris pretty much turn Scout companies and/or squads as specialized full-fledged Marines.
@@TheBongReyes isn't what i said more or less ? i was mostly speaking about the scout themselves not the company. i know that now scout company incorporate non scout units that are full fledged marins themselves.
Kharn the Betrayer plowing and tearing apart bare handed and butt naked out of a Stasis pod multiple Fully Power Armor clad Chaos Space Marines, there to assassinate him.
Is a CHAD moment that can gives a never ending Hard on...
He: " A Planet for just 1000 Men is just preposterous "
Me: "Hmm, how about the Story about the two Guardsmen, who found the Combat Knife S.T.C. Didn´t each one of them got a Planet as a reward ?"
Lol Damn, thats a reward right there
An STC for stronger slightly sharper combat knives.
@@CombatVeteranReacts i belive They efectivly became the govener of those planets.
@@huntereyeofdarkwood5417 Yep, re checked the Story.The Mechanicus gave one Planet to each of them, and made them Gouveners.
I don´t know if that´s a "clever" move.
I personaly do my living with Video Editing, so settin me infront of a whole Planet suddenly to rule it... I don´t know. Since im not trained in ruling & Managing Hive Citys, im pretty sure I would f*** this up in no time.
But the WH40K Universe is not know for it´s logic =D
@@ragnarx88 That's what your bureaucracy is for. You don't have to do anything.
Astartes chapters aren't the only people on their home worlds/worlds or recruitment. There are usually quite large populations of normal humans just doing human stuff with the astartes chapter recruiting a tiny fraction of the population as they are required.
This is true, and it has historic parallels. If we consider the classical knightly tale of the questing knight, he's almost invariably described as "solitary." At the same time, it is understood by the audience at that time that he's not actually alone; he has his retinue. This amounts to numerous servants, one or two squires, his wife perhaps, her maidservant, a falconer, a cook, and so on.
Also, as mentioned, the fortress worlds needs a pool of humans to recruit from. The larger that population is, the more suitable candidates are likely to emerge.
Not to mention all the Chapter Serfs that do menial tasks, and command their ships, for the Marines to let them focus on combat duties
While there are millions of worlds, so it's not really that big of a deal to give one under the administration of Space Marine chapter.
Or a couple. For the sake of holding strategic objectives, having a space marine chapter stationed there is worth more than anything the Imperial Guard can muster (Unless its Cadia.)
@@iZallen or Sly Marbo 😉
24:25
They get a planet WITH a population to recruite from. So it's not just them there.
It's also not really much of an issue since most of the Loyalist Legions only had a few thousand surviving Astartes, so the Second Founding would have consisted of around 100 Chapters, probably less. So that'd be less than 0.01% of the Imperium's real estate set aside for the use of the Space Marines.
@@Brutalyte616 Especially if it's hive world. Nobody would even notice it.
such as Fenris homeworld of the Space Wolves chapter sadly due to the Cainus Helix they can only recruit from the population of that world and no where else
"They shall be untouched by plague and disease" and nurgle didnt quite hear that
“I’m gonna pretend I didn’t hear that Empy.” -Nurgle
@@FlameDarkfire "ooh hoo hoo anathema was that a challenge" - a really ugly spectral shit stain
Nurgle took it personally
@@augiechiavuzzi4907 lol well empy did take 1/4 of each of the 4 main gods power lol, so he was already in the bad books lol
Well to be fair the reason that the Death Guard turned to Nurgle was because they COULDNT die. The plagues and diseases caused horrific tolls on their bodies and minds but their space marine bodies wouldn’t succumb to death so they suffered more and more without the sweet release of death.
Psychology of Space Marines: you might at first think that space marines are just hand waved as being impervious to the horrors of war, but they are not. They are just extremely resistant to it. A good example is the Iron Warriors before the heresy. They were the best siege experts in the galaxy, so they were continuously used for that role. While other legions raced across the stars, conquering planets and getting all of the honors, the iron warriors stayed behind and ground stubborn planets to dust. The constant strain and high casualties of siege warfare made the Iron Warriors extremely dour and cold. It didn’t help that when they found their primarch, he pretty much told them that they weren’t good enough. Eventually, this broke the legion, and they fragmented into pieces, first turning on the emperor, and then each other.
Damn
Custodes: Hand-made pieces of art
Astartes: Mass produced
'Mass Produced'
More like "Batch produced". Thunder Warriors were more the "Mass produced" ones.
@@fbussier80 Fair enough.
When the combat trauma gets to a Space Marine you might end up with Chaos Space Marines
Interesting argument
@@CombatVeteranReacts Sergeant Avitus of the Blood Ravens had so much PTSD that turned traitor to find some form of solace.
the armor is nervous system linked via the black carapace which is essentially an organ that's implanted later on basically they flay the aspiring space Marine and then put that layer of cabling black fibrous cabling underneath it and then restitch the skin back on (sometimes the black carapace which can be defect and doesn't work it's also a extra layer of protection similar to highly advance kevlar tendrils) and the tendrils are retractable and can disconnect from the armor.
Regarding the chapters getting their own planet, they weren't always the ONLY ones on those planets. The planets would often be used to recruit from and would sometimes help dictate the chapter's traditions and personal combat styles. Examples would be Fenris(Space Wolves) is a frozen wasteland on one side and boiling oceans on the other, and Baal(Blood Angels) is comparable to Mad Max in some cases. Both are extremely harsh and dangerous planets that result in high quality recruits, they are also the homeworld of their founding Primarchs. Others have planets that are bordering on a death sentence for anyone other than a Space Marine, meaning that no one else can live there even if they wanted to and the Imperium gave them the ok to colonize it. Some are also Fleet-based meaning that they have no planet and everything is done within their chapter's fleet, their recruits usually come from a small list of colonized planets that are usually very difficult and dangerous to live on. These planets are chosen because the fleet chapter doesn't have the option of providing a harsh environment on a homeworld so they need them "pre-adapted" so to speak. Every chapter has different traditions and methods of recruitment as a result of their combat styles, whether they're plant-based or fleet-based, if they are planet based it's based on how dangerous that planet is or if the recruits are locals or come from other planets. There are so many different ways that recruitment works that you could make up the recruitment methods of a chapter to be nothing but full on torture and it would make sense.
Grey Knights are Astartes, the only difference between them and the rest of the chapters is where their geneseed is from. As for the Custodes, only up until recently have they become a fighting force again. For the last 10,000 years, they've been inside the Palace and very rarely did they leave.
As for some of your other questions/statements, here's a bit of info. The final geneseed organ, called the Black Carapace, allows the Space Marine's armor to interface with him and it acts more like a second skin. Anyone can use power armor, but they're generally slow and clunky. A Space Marine moves as if he's wearing nothing. As for a planet for 1000 men, they need to recruit and the planet will usually be where they do so. If it's 1 in a million men can become an Astartes, they need the numbers. And usually the planet is a terrible place to live, to provide th best possible recruits.
That is true, but I suppose the focus here are on "normal" Space Marine creation, and the Grey Knights are special snowflakes in that regard. As for the Custodes they are custom made by the Emperor like super cars, and their process of being created is therefore not the same at all.
@@Mamurai yeah. An Astartes is taken as a child, no older than 14 and usually at around 8 years old. A Custodes is taken as an infant and torn apart and rebuilt through alchemy and the Emperor's machines.
well there's Baal homeworld of the Blood Angels an irradiated hell hole of a planet then there's Fenris homeworld of the Space Wolves a frozen hell hole of a planet only the Ultramarines recruit from a comfortable planet 😒
@@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 Iron Hands come from a planet with constant, massive earthquakes. Salamanders from a planet that's pretty much Mustafar. Imperial Fists and Dark Angels recruit from a multitude of worlds. White Scars from Chigoris, a world that before being ravaged by Chaos and the Red Corsairs was not that bad of a place.
@@austindow9850 well, at least the Ultramarines have nice enough worlds to recruit from.
Also, Space Wolves tend to recruit later than other chapers (or at least they did in old lore, not sure if they changed it). Ragnar was recruited to begin the process at 16, and the youngest person amonst the 100+ people at his recruitment camp was 14.
"Wanton Violence"
The Night Lords are the poster child for wanton violence.
Nah that the world eaters.
I think the guy above is right. World eaters are wanton violence, night lords is violence with a point.
Hmm yea your probably right I was just thinking I rather be attacked by world eater than a night lord
@@zhentable if we are talking about which of the two would give you a somewhat painless death I too would go for the world eaters because at least there a small chance they will kill you quickly while the night lords if given the chance would torture you for weeks or months at which point death would be a welcome release but the night lords will probably deny you that mercy.
@@oiwithyou Both original Legions were "violence with a a point", however the chaotic approach of the world eaters is what would qualify them best for wanton violence. Whereas the Night Lords used violence and stealth to produce the maximum amount of terror within a foe, while world eaters are mostly content with just slaughtering them.
I recommended also reacting to Luetin's worst/best imperial jobs. They are both very good, imo
That does sound fun!
@@CombatVeteranReacts It is, and he also have a currently ongoing series on the different types of assassin's in the imperium, the different planets, and also a full beginners guide to explain what 40K is, etc. Other great channels that i would recommend are Majorkill, Bruva Alfabusa, and Oculus Imperia.
I second that! Its one of my favourite Leutin's video's. Luetin really nails the grim universe with his voice and extensive knowledge. Lots of correlation can be found between our past and common life of the imperium.
@KYLE Stephenson A true humble servant of the Imperium.
The last implant an Astartes receives is the Black Carapace, basically a partially mechanical second nervous system which links directly with their Power Armor, turning it into essentially a second skin for the wearer
Luetin has so many valuable Warhammer 40k lore videos! I am happy that you have begun to watch them!
Agreed!
i feel this is one of luetin's best wh40k lore videos.
Luetin is great, I look forward to anything he posts.
Ah yes, Luetin09, the lore master of warhammer 40k.
Ohh this is gonna be good.
I had to do it in like, 9 parts lol. It's so dense
@@CombatVeteranReacts His two Grey Knights videos alone could cover your channel with content for almost a month.
@@CombatVeteranReacts React Tyranid s vs Imperium First contact plz .
@Combat Veteran Reacts To a point, the powered armour plate is connected to the warrior on a semi biological level. They are literally plugged into the suit. On the body of the Marine are multiple ports that link into the central nervous system. He thinks, there for it moves. Or he can see it or smell it. Its called the Black Carapace. It is a near bullet proof subdermal skin implant that covers the whole of the body on maturation. However, this means that they can interface directly with the power armour as if it were a second skin. But, if the armour is damaged or in some way rendered inoperable, they can remove that piece of the plate or replace as needed.
There's definitely a difference between passionate violence and what I can only call cold, calculated violence. The first can be a genetic or conditioned defense against trauma, and has no capacity for consent, awareness, or control, while the second is a deliberate thing anyone can theoretically learn.
The Imperial Guard is built in a similar way.
The Imperial Guard does not work so much in a mixed fashion (Mobile infantry, Infantry, artillery, etc) because that would allow them to be flexible and survive alone if they fell to Chaos.
They built their army so that they made large parts less flexible, not as a flaw, but as a feature.
Best part? No 2 Chapters do things the same. The Blood Angels basically put your in a coffin for the changes, the Space Wolves' Wolf Priests are both the Chaplains and the Apothecaries.
Short answer? At the end of their training they get one last gene seed called the Black Carapace that is put under their skin. It grows there and links with their nerves and access ports are cut into them to link to their armor. Prior to this they can use a form of armor, Scout Armor, which is not powered but it gets them used to it. Now, not all of the Chapters have the same gene seeds - some are missing some entirely (the one that lets them spit venom or acid is one that fades in and out) - and I think one or two of the successor chapters don't have the Black Carapace gene seeds.
24:19 that's actut not exact, a chapter can't contain more than one thousand of marins, but chapter also have a literal army of serf, servitor, worker, techpriest, priest etc.
and in general if the world in questions already have population on it it remains on the planet but are now administered by the chapter instead of the administratum
9:49 they are interfaced to their armor through the Black Carapace which allows them to wear the armor like it is a second skin. Though to my knowledge there is no mention of a connection where waste disposal is concerned, but there would almost have to be something like a catheter or miniature waste receptacle to be able to process it.
Custodes have a COMEPLETELY different creation method, they are each an individual work of art, a masterpiece, where as the spacemarines are basically mass produced generic tools by comparison.
The codex Astartes is both a book of both rules and regulations, but also book of doctrine and strategy, there is 16 solutions for every problem roboute guilliman could think of. It was supposed be a baseline so that way chapter masters could develop new strategies off it. But some chapters and space marines take it too seriously. Captain Titus of the ultramarines said it's was less a book of regulations and more a book of guidelines, half of the chapter being very strict on it. One chapter was destroyed by elder xenos because of how strict they were. Other chapters were a lot less favorable of it including the space wolves and the black templars who followed it only through a loophole so they could recruit above the 1000 space marines per chapter rule.
This is a second comment. Something that isn't worthy of a video, but might be interesting to you. "Space Marine Markings"... Hopefully one of the first hits on google (image search) is a list of some of the symbols used on their armor. Not all artists know these things well. But when they do, we tend to notice it.
This is just a small one that isn't generally listed. Space Marines (non-chaos) have their chapter on their Left shoulder, and their "role" on their Right shoulder. Knowing just this can give you some insight into the chapters "Black Templar" and "Deathwatch".
(I'm sure if you ever ask for it, you can get sources for more of this, and similar things)
Non codex compliant chapters may have their own system of markings. Blood Angels for example denote battle field role by helmet color and the right shoulder displays their company marking.
Astartes homeworlds are not only populated by Space marines, there are regular humans managing lots of menial jobs and basic infrastructure, and tech priests doing mechanical work. It's just that the Space marine chapter functions as the planetary government of that planet, and the chapter master is the planetary governor.
Also, sometimes the "homeworld" for a chapter is a smaller celestial body, like a moon, or an asteroid. Some Astartes chapters based entirely within orbital or free roaming spacecraft as well.
I think the best explanation of the difference between Astartes and Custodes is this: an Astartes is a sword produced with a mold by an apprentice, while a Custodian is a masterwork handcrafted spear produced by a true master of his craft
20:10 the longest that a space marine (that isn’t a dreadnaught) has lived would be Commander Dante, current chapter master of the Blood Angles, who is over 1,500 years old. The oldest dreadnaught is Bjorn the Fell Handed, a member of the Space Wolves, who is over 10,000 old and has fought side by side with the primarch of the Space Wolves, Leman Russ.
there was a salamander that got trapped when his ship crashlanded
he just kindof sat in his chair watching over a set of relic armor for about 8k years
its i think the only marine to ever die of old age as he passed away shortly after he was found
@@ashardalondragnipurake yes I am aware of Gravius, I just wanted to give the more common answer to the question of who is the oldest space marine. Also Gravius is dead. Also he didn’t die of old age, an apothecary gave him the emperor’s peace because he couldn’t get out of his chair and the planet was about to explode.
@@joshtompkins1538 you dont lose a record just because you die
damn glory stealing dante still needs to live a long time until he gets that old and can call himself the oldest in history
@@ashardalondragnipurake yes but I was talking about the oldest LIVING space marines
I know Gravius was older but at the same time he was created just for the one story, and I kinda forgot he existed
Yep, they fight just fine without the armor on (minus the benefits of having the armor on of course). Out of combat they go around unarmored typically. As it's been said they interface directly through their black carapace implant to the armor. Humans without the implant wear power armors time to time but don't have the response time/control Marines do due to a lack of direct interface. They can stomp around, punch, shoot etc but don't have the second skin feel Marines have with their power armor. Full fledged marines who lead Scout Marines (who haven't undergone the full organ implanting process, especially the Carapace for the armor interface) regularly enter combat without a full set of armor on. They wear just the chest piece like the scouts/trainees wear.
Which Space Marine chapter would you like to be in Paul?
I could see him as a Imperial Fist or a Ultramarine
The one with the least autism, so, ultramarines
@Johannes Lickmylongswordenauer 100% a raptor
@@kodee9844 ultra smurfs
Personally I’d go with UltraMarines or SpaceWolves
UltraMarines because they are one of the(IMO) most efficient and reasonable Chapters/Legions and they actually planned for what to do AFTER the Imperium didn’t need Legions of Astartes
Also Guilliman is a Badass and def. one of the best Primarchs overall(again this is just my Opinion, I think Guilliman is one of the most reasonable Primarchs and he actually planned for after the Imperium wouldn’t need Legions of Astartes, he just seems overall to be very practical)
SpaceWolves because they are absolute Badasses and also I have some Viking Ancestors so bonus points for that
The Custodes are made through a completely different process, a good way to think about it is that the Custodians are each an individual masterpiece of genetic engineering, where as the space marines represent the ability to mass produce super soldiers, the imperium has 1000 space marine chapters and assuming they are all following the codex astartes and each have 1000 space marines, the imperium would have around 1 million space marines, That also does not include the traitor marines, the custodes always have and always will be the 10,000
14:50 besides genetics there’s also the factor of the techno barbarians and thunder warriors were from and for a time of strife. The nurture probably played as much, if not more of a part in their ‘instability’ as their nature. Space Marines prefer to recruit from worlds that already have a martial or combat bent, and it was said before though kind of dropped by the wayside that some chapters (and even legions before) would recruit from the most brutal and violent criminals on penal worlds.
What I like in your reactions of 40k is how you compare it to other fiction, real history and to real world. Bit of over analysis to compare what some others do, but to me that's just great! Love your work, keep it coming! I'd love to see some point your reactions to orkz as everybody knows: DA GREEN IZ DA BESTEST!!! WAAAAAAGGHHH!
Custodies are more like a “personal royal guard” unit, than a fighting force. 1-on-1 they are better than space marines and grey knights, but they never leave the palace. Only recently have some left and performed missions due to the return of Roboute Guilliman who’s now Lord Regent of Holy Terra, and as the primarch of administration, he won’t waste resources.
Custodes are warriors while Space Marines are soldiers
I racomand also reacting to Helsreach is a Warhammer fan film and is amazing it talk about the war on Armageddon, and I think you might be interested in it from the point of battle style and the narration of that history.
And Death of hope and it's trailers, as well as Guardsman and the Lord inquisitor.
@@tacitus5665 yes they are great films too, but personally i like more Grimaldus story because i like when the enemies sorround you and you must fight with your brother for not die. The emperor protects.
The armor does in fact interface directly with their body through an implant call the black carapace. Visually they are several black ports that have pushed through the skin. A space marine's already impressive strength is augmented by electrically driven artificial bundles of muscle, the black carapace allowing the marine to use the electric muscles as if they were a natural part of their body. This is usually what accounts for a marine's impressive agility despite wearing a suit that makes them the equivalent of a tank. Should the power to the muscles fail a marine can still use his armor, albeit at a reduced capacity as his natural muscle is now bearing the weight of the ceramite plates.
There are many cases where space marines fight with out armour, in many case they have been captured by enemy and manage break free. Like Brother Cloten of Blood Angels who was captured and torture by Fabius Bile and left to die in one of his laboratories, who then did break free while succumbed to Black Rage and Red Thrst and killed all mortal followers of Bile. Blood Angel Strike Force did find him feasting on remains of his enemies... He then greeted them and said: "Welcome brothers, join to my feast..."
The mental reinforcement is not absolute. Space Marines can and will break under heavy mindbreak via chaos or just from too long in the line of duty. Danteis a thousand years old and in his last major battle wanted to die so much he hallucinated Sanguinius and begged him to let him die.
To be fair the blood Angels do have their own genetic quirks.
So yes the Space Marines armor is connected to their nervous system via the Black Carapace which is why they can move so fluidly with the armor system. When it comes to the whole waste excretion thing a Space Marine is perfectly capable of dropping a log all on his own, but what the power armor allows them to do is take their waste and recycle it into nutrients that are then injected into the Marine making them have to ingest food and water much less frequently in the field. Also with the whole genitals thing my personal opinion/head cannon is that while they have all the proper piping to use them they've been subjected to so many chemical treatments that theres no way it all still works.
My favourite part is actually learning about all the unique mutations that occur - for example, one mutation leads to excess bone growth which causes bone like claws and armour to grow around the marine but at the cost of extreme pain
To answer your question: yes, space Marines are neurologically connected to their armor. However, they can remove the armor (other than their neuro implants).
For lore, I would reccomend watching more Luetin09 videos. 40k theories is also quite good, but he deals more with theories and speculation.
There are a lot of people who give misinterpreted and inaccurate lore, but Luetin is extremely accurate.
Arch warhammer's videos are way too long for you to react to, especially because you offer your own thoughts, besides which he tends to ramble a lot and interject speculation without prefacing that he's speculating.
Oculus Imperia is another great youtuber, but his lore videos are done in a roleplaying perspective of an Imperial recordkeeper.
I'm really enjoying your commentary. you're obviously a very well-read person even in things unrelated to soldiery. which is a very nice paralel to how astartes are sometimes depiced in some novels.
one example is in Horus Rising (which I'd recommend you read, because it's an excellent book), where even line astartes are expected to read philosophy (among other things) to become warrior-scholars, so they have a place in the imperial society once the Great Crusade is finished, and peace is brought to the galaxy. obviously the events of the Horus Heresy threw a spanner in the works.
Leutin09 is a great channel. You might want to look up his titan or give city videos next.
Custodies, yes. Grey knights are space marines though. Just a special group.
Gene seed is likely a combination of gene alteration, nano tech, and possibly warp sorcery. This is because there are a few more mechanical sounding organs, and some hints here and there to some supernatural element.
They have an organ that allows them to interface with their power armor like a second skin, meaning that they can ignore most of the safety things that normal humans require to not hurt themselves, and are not clumsy with it. That said, they are not dependent on it to survive. Just to not get shot.
There has been some instances of space marines breeding with humans, but the offspring was purely human. The Emperor wanted to make sure that the Imperium belonged to humanity, not trans/human super soldiers.
The custodies were there, but were a small elite force. You could not make a proper army out of them, nor are they made to properly work as a large army.
The thunder warriors were more powerful than a space marine, but had a few problems like spontaneously dying or insanity.
The way I understand it (no expert)
Sociopath: no empathy or remorse.
Psychopath: illogically violent.
I think you are right. Those things are different (those two types of violence).
There is actually no known life span for a space marine. They all just eventually die violent deaths.
The imperium actually did a ton of stuff to try and prevent future Horus Heresies. Things like fire-walling the naval (space) and ground forces of the imperial guard, and possibly the mechanics as well (or at least the Titans). Also, all but the most loyal and tested imperial guard regiments are not allowed to have combined arms anymore. This way, it is easier to counter them should they turn traitor. And finally, they introduced the commissars (if they were not already a thing) to ensure loyalty, bravery, and competency of the guard one way or another.
The space marines do not just have the entire planet to themselves, unless it was uninhabited before. It’s just a base of oppositions. They could only interact with the locals for things like recruitment and supplies, out right rule the planet, or anywhere in between. They can also bed fleet based and move around.
One problem with space marine gene seed is that it is asexual reproduction (sort of, the base human was made normally). That means any mutation or defects will be passed down if that gene seed isn’t taken out of circulation if you will. Which is tough because they have to wait for new gene seed, or dip into reserves if they have any.
Last time I was this early I had just gotten my Ossmodula
I see what you did there. ;)
hoh man you finally hitting the luetin vids. Luetin probably has the highest best quality lore video stuff.
my understanding is that the armor is just armor and it can be removed for servicing at no physiological inconvenience to the marine. But while worn, it does capture and reprocess any waste from the marine's body (urine, sweat, feces) to reclaim the water.
a note about the Thunder Warriors, the talk of stability has to do more with enhancing performance at the cost of lifespan a Thunder Warrior would, without external support, only live for a couple decades, built given they spent those decades in heavy heavy combat that time was moot.
in Stargate SG-1 there was a warrior caste called the Kull Warriors that had a similar principle. their physiology was so jacked their lifespan was mere months
The homeworlds also have civilians, so it’s not just 1000 people on a planet. The fortress-monastery is where the marines actually live, which is basically just one city on the planet
The Custodes were created around the same time as the Thunder Warriors. However, the way they were created was vastly different and far more difficult in terms of making Custodes. That’s why there will never be more then 10,000. The Thunder Warriors are like proto-Astartes, by having normal humans converted to Thunder Warriors. This is different from the tube method of crafting Custodes.
Also, there’s a comment in that Creation of Space Marines video where Luetin misspoke and the Thunder Warriors were made to fight the Techno Barbarians. The Techni Barbarians being remnants of humanity that fight and control their own pockets of territory on Terra, basically warlords.
Space marine armor is directly connected to their nervous system through an organ called the black carapace. They can engage in combat and survive outside of their armor for extended periods of time. Therefor I believe they can excrete normally but it’s not something that is brought up often.
Some background on “the age of strife” that was mentioned in passing. At the most bare bones all interstellar travel became impossible for a long period of time. At the same time many planets did not independently produce enough resources or food to support their full population including earth. (Imagine New York City becoming isolated and needing to support itself for years) thus the majority of societies collapsed and huge amounts of info and technology were lost. Even in the 10k years later not all the lost planets have been found.
The power armor interfaces with the final organ transplant, which is called the Black Carapace. This organ is implanted by literally skinning the aspirant, laying the black Carapace on like a skin, and then sewing the skin back on the poor bastard.
They don't remove the, ahem, "twig and berries." However, the space marines are rendered infertile and have no sex drive after the process is complete.
The custodes are the Secret Service, the astartes are spec ops/Rambo on space steroids.
20:32 I think that’s also why Astartes are, almost by design, a separate warrior caste. They -can’t- go back to normal society, one because they’re no longer quite human, and two they have to witness and inflict some of the most horrific and gruesome violence one could see. There’s horrors that individual marines have seen that would break even the strongest warrior today, or even a guardsman (see the daemonculaba, or don’t) and yet they keep going out of an indoctrinated sense of duty and purpose. A space marine committed to a task WILL succeed or WILL die trying.
I do like how a few select chapters like the Salamanders and to an extent the Ultramarines actually do interact with their planets society to a fair degree (lots of Salamanders literally live part time civilian lives when not on missions).
@@ShadowGhost0117 that is a nice touch, but even still there’s an anecdote from an Ultramarine story where they were at a noble’s party as a bit of ‘mandatory fun’ for themselves, and they conduct themselves in engaging in small talk like they’re running room clearing drills.
01:30 Custodes are more like secret service/advisors than military force and grey knight are technically space marine but they special forces.
Chest wall implant “black carapace”, allows complete neurological integration between astartes and armour. The power armour’s fibres and servos operate in complete unison with the astartes brain signal’s. The signal to move the muscles to walk or lift their arm, also signal the power armour to do the same.
Custodes are glorified body guards, and the Grey Knights pretty much only fight chaos (Daemons, traitor marines, cultists etc) while the space marines does it all.
bodyguards who are second only to primarchs and hero-level astartes characters. Grey Knights concentrate on Daemonic opponents but they can and have fought against none daemonic enemies and bested them. Grey Knights psychic abilities will still devastate non-daemonic targets.
well custodian being glorified body guard is a little underestimating them.
even since HH they were able wreck almost any threat but until recently weren't allowed to leave the palace.
but from the few fight they took part of they're monstrous, even compared to space marins
@@kalzhae Tho they are the toughest troops the Imperium can field, they dont fight for the Imperium, only the Emperor. And no one exept for them selfs kept them locked in the palace til Guiliman kicked them out to get some sun and get some fighting done.
@@prisregil well technically what kept them in the palace was an imperial edict, not themselves, but yeah they only serve the emperor not the imperium, but all that changed when the emperor allowed Big G to command them, now their is some custodes that fight with the imperium instead of just protecting the palace and only the palace
Space Marines are totally fine out of armor. They wouldn't want to fight without it, but they can and will if needed. When used he armor is connected to their nervous system, but it's not a permanent connection.
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Connects is via the black carapace. This is a semi-organic polymer layer added under the skin to bridge the induction ports mounted in the skin to the armor. It is possible some of the abdomen ports include functions to handle waste excretion in armor.
It is worth noting that in the Horus heresy books the marine barracks include showers and latrines. I can’t imagine why these ships abs bases would include a latrine if the marines literally didn’t need it.
As to sex…one of the most famous space wolves literally goes out wenching after his first deployment. Like goes out and gets laid, and one of his fellows kinda gives him a look over it, but doesn’t press the matter.
The general impression I’ve always had is that Marines are fully intact and likely even functional. They just don’t care. To them a woman’s beauty is like the beauty of a finely crafted Bolter or work of art. That being said, I’ve seen one flirt, once again Horus Heresy Novel. He was doing so expressly because of his opinion the woman he was speaking to would respond favorably and it was achieve his machinations quickly.
Also, unless the emperor’s children regrew them after their fall, which is possible, then they certainly still have the plumbing and it’s all still hooked up. I’m inclined to suspect it works Becuase none of the EC where shocked, they just where surprised by how fun it was.
If u look at how normal(ultramarine) space marine chapter structure & its each company structure, they actually a bit more than 1k astartes inside 1 chapters...
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Unlike a sea of unintresting react channels, this man discusses the concepts and refers to things that have similarities with things in real life.
Good job there my dude :)
20:30 I cant reference it but early lore, like a timetable for marines that aren't on assignment blowing something up said they spend 23.99 hours a day praying, practicing, or being hypno-indoctrinated/mindwiped with 5 minutes of free time they can dedicate to something productive or virtuous of their own free will, like extra prayers or reading.
Which is actually war more grim dark than most takes in current 40k. Your whole chapter of 1000 super soldiers are constantly being killed and replaced. But you replace them and the new guy that sits down in the brother Landis hypnobooth is the one that is called brother Landis now. Like maybe the chapter master and chaplains or medics know what's going on but everyone else are just literally cogs that get replaced constantly with fresh bodies but the institutional memory of the chapter removes all their individuality
You could argue that the greatest of all the superhuman traits that astartes possess, is the extreme levels of mental discipline that even the most baseline astartes has.
During the crusade astartes were once considered the basic soldier and were supported by the solar auxilia who did more of the true grunt work, such as infiltration, assisting the astartes as human meat shields, as a form of police to ensure a planets loyalty remains after it is conquered, as for the mechanacus which was know as the mechanacum was actually more liberal and more progressive than the modern day mechanacus
Probably said but the Astartes have a grafted artificial second skin called the "black carapace" that interfaces directly with their armor.
The one thing about the Emperor of Mankind’s mentality is due to the fact that he has been on Earth since the Stone Age, so he’s seen both the best and the worst in humanity.
The "1000 people on a planet" implies that they have a lot of normal people in their service to run facilities/ships and logistics but nobody ever talks about the housecleaners in 40k :-).
They also have people from the Mechanicus or other factions there, so this starts to become the size of an organization/state instead of just 1000 dudes sitting in a castle.
The recruiting worlds often are pretty inhospitable which works as a pre-selection.
One book about the Dark Anegsl describes that a primitive tribe prepared his young men for the test when the Space Marine gods come. The chapter sends a chaplain and the young people do some dangerous hunting/fighting until very few remain as candidates. The winners are then taken one by one to a tomb and the chaplain told them that they did well and that one final test will be done which will be so painful that they may ask for being killed if they cannot bear it and that this is not shameful for them or their families. They got some injection (was it something in relation to geneseed?) or so, cannot remember - but those who suffered too much were killed by the chaplain and buried in the tomb. The others were taken to the ship to see the stars and to never return.
I'd like to know how long it takes to teach these people everything important about the universe though. They don't even know what a toaster is but should end up with enough knowledge and intelligence that they themselves could run a state of humans, which is what some of the fallen Dark Angels did, Primarch-style. Selecting people just because they are strong sounds kind of dumb.
I know I'm late to the discussion, but yes, the Marine's armor does directly connect to his central nervous system.
I'm sure it has been addressed but oh well. yes they can fight with no power armor and are still at that point as hard to kill as the hulk on pcp. they have been known to come back from non lethal head shots in weeks. also for the custodes show up a bit later at least in the form that you are thinking. first he got good at making super people with thunder warrior, then he got better and made the primarches and in that made his custodes guard. at least that is my understanding. fun thing about the lore and the books and stuff is it is all cannon because all info in the grimdark goes through redaction or chaos or just lies. also great job with the channel
The Grey Knights are still a form of Space Marines. The Custodes don’t defend humanity, they protect and serve the Emperor.
The grey Knights are Astartes, just particularly psychicly sensitive ones, and specially trained, to combat threats of the warp, or fight in other very specific situations.
@@tacitus5665 my point exactly
@@goliath1179 missed the "a", though semantically, I could argue that they aren't a kind of space marine, but exactly space marines ;)
@@tacitus5665 well they’re pretty much Space Marines, but not like any other chapter. As they have no father primarch that all other chapters and even traitor legions have.
@@goliath1179 yep
You talked about our military being somewhat hereditary these days. I can confirm to a point that all roads a family chooses may lead in similar directions. As my mother, and every male in my family for the last 4-5 generations excluding myself and my youngest uncle were Marines, and my uncle went Army, I have worked private security through a group contracted by ICE, and I now work hospital security, the job may be different but the goal is ultimately the same…in a sense. I once vowed to never become military personnel for any branch unless we see “safe and realistic” space travel and navies in our time. I would rather train and defend at home if ever someone is dumb enough to invade us like the Red Dawn movies, better to be prepared for the unlikely than to be unprepared at all. That and I couldn’t get through boot camp without being sentenced to death row or dying in training, I’m built for running away physically and I don’t take orders I give them. I’m not cut for that life and it’s fine, if I ever have kids I pray they will join if anything to have a better life.
The custodes are the ones that killed all of the thunder warriors. Custodes player here. Also custodes are the handcrafted version of a mass produced model.
13:37 The Astartes aren't affected biologically when it comes to emotions, temperament, and especially personality. etc. It is just *so* ingrained in them, by hypnosis, the Ecclesiarchy, etc. to serve the emperor that, generally apart from chaos influence/warpfuckery, an Astartes would never even think about hurting a fellow battle brother, or betraying the emperor.
They are conditioned in MANY ways to endure the physiological and mental hardships of being an Astartes. As for the Thunder warriors (The one they were mentioning), They were created for one single purpose, War. Since the Empire of Man didn't exactly know how those first gene warriors would be, they posed a serious risk to themselves and others, and were thus very unstable.
For an interesting read and the info about the Thunder warriors warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Thunder_Warriors
The origins of the Custodes are unclear, though early accounts from the Terran Unification Wars assert that the Custodes were around even before the Thunder Warriors, always guarding the Emperor.
The theory goes that the Custodes came first, and the Thunder Warriors were an early attempt at simplifying the process for mass production. They succeeded in that regard, and many sources claim that the Thunder Warriors surpassed both the Custodes and the Astartes in terms of raw strength, but they were physically and mentally unstable, being prone to psychotic breaks and sudden organ failure. To that end, the Emperor created the Primarchs as imperfect copies of himself and based the template for the Space Marines on them. This development allowed the Space Marines to be mass produced with little inherent defects, and created 21 generals who surpassed the Custodes and the Thunder Warriors both physically and mentally, thus making them second only to the Emperor himself. There were complications later on, but that was mostly the result of external factors, like the Chaos Gods corrupting the Primarchs and their Gene-seed, creating mutations that spread across the Legions physically and psychically and made them more susceptible to the influence of Chaos and the Dark Gods. There were also other factors, like terrorist attacks on the Gene-seed stores on both Terra and Luna, experiments and modifications done before, during, and after the Horus Heresy thay lead to various strains of Space Marines, like the Raptors, but mostly ended in causing long-term damage to the Gene-seed samples that only became evident centuries or millennia later, most famously during the 21st Founding, better known as the Cursed Founding, although this was mostly due to experiments carried out by the Adeptus Biologis wing of the Adeptus Mechanicus. Ironically enough, Guilliman is actually to blame for a lot of this, as he issued a decree as the de facto Lord Commander of the Imperium after the Horus Heresy to hasten Gene-seed cultivation to recoup the losses suffered by the Loyalists Space Marines during the Heresy, but this rushed cultivation period ultimately lead to many of the long-term complications, such as several organs implanted during the conversion process atrophying to tge point of uselessness, such as the Betcher's Glands.
23:11 the coup was not a parachute drop but a ground invasion in Alger, not Paris. But still I agree. :)
I don't know if it would hit too close to home or a social faux pas to ask, but could you react to baldemort's iron warriors video. I want to hear your opinion of them. For context, they had horrific attritional warfare that "dehumanized" them (if that is the right word for it when they are Astartes, but I digress) and they had to deal with the ancient practice of decimation. I am a Pharmacologist (different from a pharmacist think more research-oriented) and I have seen through my research 2nd or 3rd hand how horrific that is for the human psyche. I would sincerely appreciate hearing your opinion as an actual soldier/officer. It's hard to really understand some psychiatric patient's problems and create medication for them when you have the capacity to help (medical knowledge), but lack the context or life experience to comprehend and therefore try to match what exactly a patient needs to the chemicals/substances which might induce the desired effect. I apologize for the long-winded comment and question which will probably be buried in the comments section anyway, but it would be an interesting reaction and educational for me.
0:16 to 0:17... 😂I like the garand thumb style of asking for subscription... 😂
9:45 Yes, the Black Carapace implant, is a 20cm semi translucent organ that is implanted under the skin of the Marines chest, and it grows slowly, to cover his entire body.
Its between the Skins and muscles and connectors apears on the thing, like USb ports if you will, that lets a MArine connect Neuraly to his armor.
Making the Marine and the Armor one seemless unit, wich allows the marines to get the absolut maximum output of their Power Armors, and having the Armors in turn boosting further the allready formidable natural capabilities of the Marines.
But even without a Power Armor, a SPace Marine can still easly, even barehanded kill dozens if not more of foes.
Don't forget that they have the strenght of 6-8men, stamina and endurance, thats lets them fight for 72hours straight, nearly impervious to pain, with Blood that clots nearly instantly to avoid blood loss.
If they arn't fighting a Chaos Marines, or anything more dangerous, then even naked, there is little that is actually a danger to a Space Marine.
Interesting. To be fair, human beings can and have fought for 72 hours straight.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Hello yeah thats is possible, i think actuall record for space marine is around 312 hours without sleep. Dont remeber specifics but it was achived by some space marines defending fortress under siege.
Chapterworld are most of the times rather deadly by 40K standarts with a "low" population (so 30-100 Million tops) and if a chapter gets 1 Aspirant (a young man 12-ish) from a 1000 canidates, they are extrem lucky. Some of the older codizes sad of 1000 aspirants 1 became a full fleshed Marine, you sea the necessity for it. In the Blood Trials of the Blood Raven (Dawn of War: Ascension) Gabriel Angelos gained 1 Aspirant from 10K candidates.
Yes, Space Marines, at least Ultramarines, have functional genitals. Libido is at the freezing point thought. The Black Carapace is combination of cybernetic implants and nervous system extension that interfaces with the Crysis like undersuit. Looks like Matrix slots.
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Psychopathy is a mental disorder that causes the inability to connect, both emotionally, empathically and in some cases even intellectually to other creatures.
Sociopathy is someone capable of empathy and emotional connection but has learned, most often due to outside factors, to hamper or distance themselves from said emotional and empathic responses.
Btw, you should check out the 40k fan animation "The Raptor" it is fantastic.
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Citizen it your your duty as a guardsman to watch the lore of Occulus Imperia as pertaining the details of the founding, history and tactics of each orginal space marine legion. Thought for the day: STRINGSTORM creates excellent hymnals to the emperor.
Can't wait till you see how in depth the lore is with Astartes. Grey Knights and Custodes are completely different processes so they don't show up here.
They can move in the armor even if it were powered down. And I don't have the source readily available, but I read that the Space Marines will wear their power armor on their back while recovering from wounds. (Not at all times, but as part some part of the process, while they are jogging... running... it's a bit fussy. But it was a significant distance... that I remember)
(If the terminator armor were to be powered down, they would not be able to move it. In some part because of it's weight, but mostly just because it's more rigid)
Custodes ( 1:30 ) are for defense of terra and elite troup/guard of the emperor, they doesn't count as " fighting force ".
grey knight are space marine the top of the top. but still they are space marine. And there is like 1 grey knight for 1000 space marine
sociopaths are cold violent, psychopaths have the incorrect emotions, and can be manipulative, but have hot anger. sociopaths dont plan, psychopaths do, and sociopaths crave power. psychopaths dont
Yup to the generation after generation being in the military. I am 4th or 5th generation to have served but only the 3rd generation to have fought in a war and, that is as far as I have managed to dig up but likely further back family has served. So I agree.
Custodes and Grey Knights are Space Marines.
With Custodes having their Gene Seed from the Emperor rather than a Primarch. Grey Knights Gene Seed is unknown except to the Inquisition upper echelons, the Temple Secretum of the Officio Assassinorum (secret keeper assassins), or the Grey Knights leaders (some speculate given the amount of psychicers within the GKs that a certain one eye cyclops Primarch gene seed is used).
Wait a cyclops primarch? is that the one no one talks about?
@@CombatVeteranReacts one could say that besides Logar he's responsible for much of the imperium woes after trying to call Big E via interstellar communication via ritual sacrifices and help from those within the warp to warn of Horus betrayal.... At the cost of breaching the webway portal directly to the Golden Throne on Earth.
Whether or not a space marine is castrated will in all likelihood vary from chapter to chapter based upon tradition. In any case, they will have mechanism for discarding biological waste, but due to their efficient metabolism they dont need to do it nearly as often as normal humans. Furthermore, their suits come with specialized recycling systems that can re-use waste and extend their effective operating times with no nutrient intake by frankly ludicrous amounts, literally years.
Their armor does integrate with their biology, via the "Black Carapace", a special sub-dermal fullbody implant that allows their suit to perfectly monitor the marine's entire biology, and allows the marine to control their armor as if it was literally a second set of skin and muscles, including artificial nerve endings. For a space marine, the armor *is* their body.
That said, they can certainly operate without it, at reduced capacity (but still far beyond normal humans). However the donning and removing of power armor can take a very long time unless it is heavily damaged, as it requires extensive mechanicus blessings to allow the machine spirit to function properly as well as careful management of its connection with the black carapace.
In order to be a space marine, you also have to be able to continue while your suit is non functioning (ie strong enough to still preform the job efficiently and effectively while carrying all the dead weight as if it where mostly functional).
Astartes are physically connected to their armor via the Black Carapace. This allows for a lot of things a human without the Carapace cannot do
just wanted to nerd-clarify that nucleotides are the building blocks of DNA & RNA, and amino acids are the building blocks of proteins! love your energy and thought process, and that you know when you don't know something-- that is really critical.
Just got to the end, and wanted to add that genes that "destabilize" might be analogous to elements called "pseudogenes", which typically appear at first glance to encode a protein, but in reality cannot be expressed due to lacking critical elements (proper start/stop sites or lack of transcriptional enhancer sites, etc.)
Some of these are mutated copies of other genes that never made it to full protein-coding status, while others can be genes that used to be expressed in common ancestors, but then lost their coding ability so that they're e.g. not actually expressed in humans.
In W40K, the process of genetic selection and drift might be shaped by the Warp/Chaos Energy (genes accelerated to non-functionality or introduction of "corruptive" genes) or the Emperor/gene seed caretakers (magical/mythical protection against genetic degradation, introduction of novel genes, or reactivation of latent genes) perhaps.
The grey knights and the custodes are both technically space Marines. In fact the grey knights are blatantly space Marines. Custodes are the emperor's guardians so they have their own class.
Space marines are typically not castrated I would say, the reduction of testosterone would reduce their fighting effectiveness.
yea space marines even without armor and weapons are still tough and strong enough to beat down anyone who thinks they are no longer a threat.
when they are not in a war they are often back home in fortress monasteries where they train and chill, often wearing robes and trying to stay comfortable while being looked after by their serfs.
space marines are even encouraged to sleep. while they can go prolonged periods of time without it thanks to having brain similar to some lizards, they can shut down some parts of it at a time without it effecting the whole, this does have a negative effect on the long run so they take few hours of actual sleep daily. despite their inability to dream.
they do eat good food while at home as well, even alcohol is served. but its only for flavor because their over working bodies prevent intoxication.
the ones who are being forged into space marines eat less complex foods, often jelly like substance with lots of nutrition value to encourage their physical mutation, but simple enough not to cause digestive track issues. because you just got your stomach held open by metal claws while some guys rearranged room to fit in extra organs.