"Just because something exists, doesn't mean it should stay like that forever. Take for instance Belgium. Belgium has been around for quite a while. Most countries even recognized it as a country. BUT does it have any inherence value? I'm not so sure." - Harstem, a positive person. I'm so dead 🤣
Notice how he tried to kill the Nydus worm with nothing but SCVs in the beginning? Would be a terrible shame if all that was in there were... 2 banelings...
baneling nest and 2 banes would delay nydus by 100 gas, defeating the point of fastest nydus challenge edit: you're also investing 150 minerals, plus a mining drone... :\ so you're slowing down your 2nd queen, delaying zergling speed, and not for much value. Two banes could only kill maybe 4 SCVs surrounding the nydus which the queens and lings can do just as easily. Better to get 2 queens on time with ling speed to outmicro hellions and reapers.
I don't know but something always makes me smile watching Hastem. I guess it's his positivity and laugh. World needs more Hastem's everywhere.... Thanks for your content!
I do a similar that opens hatch first against toss, and you pull 3 of the 6 drones off gas (Only need 3 on gas to sustain additional nydus). It hits a tiny bit later, but it looks more like a standard build and you can have 3 queens pop from the first nydus. 13 Overlord 16 Hatch 16 Extractor 17 Pool 20 Overlord 20 Lair1414 20 Extractor 19 Queen 21 2x Zerglings 22 2x Zerglings -Drone up to 24 28 Metabolic Boost -Mass Lings/Queens 34 Nydus Network (Around 3:04) - Pull 3 drones off gas. Keep building queens and lings. Inject and go into nydus.
Games like this really show you whats so scary about a really good zerg player. Turning that economy into a 5 base hive tech economy that fast while still applying massive pressure constantly. Insane to watch. Inspiring.
27:31 the general argument for why booby trapping your home is illegal is because it cannot tell the difference between a criminal making an illegal entry and law enforcement making legal entry.
The zerglings started running across the map because you were still hotkeying eggs into your main army. So when you issued a command after the zerglings came out of the nydus, all the zerglings and eggs that were hotkeyed were told to run across the map lol. I used to do this, and now i just rally the eggs into the nydus and not hotkey them.
The "take, for example, Belgium [...]" joke was the funniest thing I heard in the last two-three days (and I've been watching other StarCraft UA-camrs constantly in the background).
27:10 you got both of their names right (almost). at first they were the wet bandits, because they would leave the water running after they would rob a place. then in the 2nd they were called the sticky bandits because they used double-sided tape to steal money from donation buckets.
Marv, when Marv kept getting hit by bricks and Harry was still encouraging The Kid to throw them. I pissed my pants laughing at that scene. Just say no to throwing bricks, kids!
21:30 "If he loses he will be thinking about this Nydus build for the whole day." said the man thinking about the Nydus cheese that happened this morning.
I got a zvz build that i came up with 2 years ago... 1 base do the extractor trick at 14 with 150 minerals to get 15 and 16 drones. Cancel extractors. Build overlord then pool by your gas. 2 more drones. Double extractor and fill asap. Get queen asap and at least 1 spine preferably 2. No lings until after you get 5 hydras. Spread creep immediately towards ramp. Evo block the ramp with 2 evos and move a spine to the hole in middle. As spon as queen hatches build lair. If enemy is bane busting more spine back and replace with evo. As soon as lair finishes build hydra den and then lurker building. Build 5 hydras. Once lurker den is done morph 3 lurkers. Make sure to build nydus asap before lurker den hatches. Then nydus their main if you can or between 3rd and natural. Enjoy 75% win zvz. 😎😎😎 Before nydus is done have at least 2 extra drones and load them in nydus right after a few lings. Then lurkers. Once you get a nydus in their base unload. Prioritize building spores with drones and spread lurkers out. Attack drones, pool, roach den or their ramp. If you cant get a nydus up you expand and tech to hive. You will need vipers because they almost always go mutas... or mass roach ravenger. Its such a fun build and you skip the annoying ling bane wars. Hahaha
Also, Roach/queen Nydus early has worked better for me on ladder than ling/queen nydus just do queen first as soon as pool is done for inject. depending how quick you do it, you can also squeeze in a started plus 1 range dmg in a evo chamber.
Wondering if your bane detonation on your drones at 30:14 was intentional :P Also, I wonder if vs zerg it would be better to rush nydus and then fill it with banes instead of lings. Sneaking a bunch of banes into their mineral line seems pretty decent. Or at least as one other comment said, put a bane or two in first so you can immediately detonate them on whatever is trying to defend the nydus (esp if they worker pull to defend)
nydus worms is one of the worst designs, it would take like 50 minutes for the coders to make pathfinding use nydus entries as part off the calc and auto use them as pathways, making zerg mobility truly awesome and making creep much more worth, allowing for P to not be so weak (yes i said it, thefk is up with protoss the strongest, most advanced, most badass race ever getting demolished fighting same or lower numbers off enemy from Zerg late game.. thats just absurd, collossus 14 range, double shield hp, 50% increased dmg or something like that... seriously protoss high tech units should be monstrous to fight; not something you viper pull into instant death, its so dumb... ... also who the hell thought air units should stack? air units use up space same as ground units; you can't stack 30 vikings on top off each other at max range and expect the top to hit where to bottom can... it also utterly breaks the balance between units... sry, rambling bc it bugs me how bad blizzard have been at managing the setup and balance off sc2.... also biomass is what zerg need, they are basically a copy version off tyranids which honestly is cool as fk, so why are they gathering minerals, why is there no mechanics for them getting resources out of killing on creep or dragging dead bodies, animals, trees etc. back to the base, using maybe nydus for safer resource gathering but needing a much wider area for drones to split out to gether from natural spawning biomass resources... dreamed off the sc2 that should have been, or the sc3 that surely will never be :P
I like Harstem, and I like cheese. I expect I’ll like these videos a lot. But I gotta say that I did have a moment of disappointment when I realized this was not, in fact, a video about Has. There is a truly high bar to be reached, but I have faith in you, Harstem!
I rather stick with a bad plan than have no plan at all - Quote by Harstem A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. - Quote by George S. Patton You kind of have the same train of thought as George S. Patton.
"This is the proper response, by the way. This is actually what you're supposed to do behind this....I think. I don't know, I'm just making it up right now" Yup
So.. NoRegret had a mean arse nydus rush a few years ago, I think he qualified for GSL Rd32 with it if I remember correctly. You open the same as you but you stop making drones at 19, and your natural is essentially a fake that never gets workers and is only made for lings. You hit when you have 2 dropper lords and 32 lings all up. 8 in each dropper lord, one hitting the main and one hitting the far side of the natural, the other 16 hit the front wall and then immediately sprint back to your nydus in your main and why this is happening you spawn the nydus at whichever of the the two dropper lords is less defended. It was really strong and I almost never lost, I only stopped playing it cause I'm not really a cheesy player and it felt like it was just giving me a fake higher mmr then my skill was really at.
Game 1 was such a massive disappointment, you HAD IT. The times when you have one of these silly ideas that just immediately pops off in the first game is so satisfying. I was totally OK with it having not worked out immediately until you pointed out how many lings were behind! (Yeah, I clearly have no handle on the economy of this game.)
Yes it does, that means every created drone will automatically go to the minerals. That's what you need to do for two reasons. First it allows you to saturate your bases efficiently, allowing you to get 16 on mins exactly before starting to rally to a new base, secondly it means drones don't transfer between bases in the earlygame, this is extremely important against adepts and oracles. If you look at any high level game they basically never individually rally worker outside of into gasses in the earlygame or later to not have to think about it.
if by chance you see this Harstem, can you tell me your EXACT in-game graphical settings so that you can still see burrowed and invisible unit blurs? cuz i prefer the low-grade graphics over the ultra even though i can run it at max graphics and still pull highest fps allowed.
Just look at the game lol. How would he ever have a single spinecrawler survive even half the duration it's building if he has 8-12 lings less and he still lost to banes.
my dude. if you've invested 99% of your economy into a giant muta flock... and the literal only way you could lose is to accidentally flying into widow mines, consider spending 100 minerals and 100 gas on overlord speed rather than building 1 more muta
9:00 - It looked like you're wasting a lot of time sharking around the front of his base with those mutas. Make a run around the back to draw units off the front and keep them out of position.
I'm like a 900mmr. So you probably should pay me no attention.. That said, I used to do this build like 10 years ago. The trick, imo, is to just keep chucking more and more into the nydus. I also like immediately going into banelings and keep sending them in. It becomes an attrition match at that point. The point is not let your opponent recover from the 1st hit.
The fact that you immediately go into banelings means that you did not play this build. Nor was this even possible 10 years ago because you started with 6 and not 12 worker.
@@mothrahlurker788 yea, it's called you build more workers.. It's a nydus rush. Not really a difference between a nydus rush now and then, perhaps it came like a minute later.. but the principles was the same.
Quick Question. I’ve noticed that pro players don’t use traps so are they really that bad at the top level? I’ve never played Starcraft 2 though only the first game
What is a trap? If you mean stasis trap, then they absolutely do get used at the top level. Common in PvP vs batteries, defensively, in PvZ with oracle gateway style to protect against lingflinks, later on against banelingrunbies and against terran to stall pushes.
"Just because something exists, doesn't mean it should stay like that forever.
Take for instance Belgium.
Belgium has been around for quite a while. Most countries even recognized it as a country.
BUT
does it have any inherence value?
I'm not so sure."
- Harstem, a positive person.
I'm so dead 🤣
9:38 Too perfect
this was without any lube 🤣
"well..."
Needs to be watched from 9:20, to get the nice context :)
The one drone which stared at the spire for half the game, with admiration and ambition, finally becomes one. I'm so proud.
Never stop not giving not up
Notice how he tried to kill the Nydus worm with nothing but SCVs in the beginning? Would be a terrible shame if all that was in there were... 2 banelings...
Too quick for both the nydus and the banes I guess :p But that would be pretty awesome
I’d break a keyboard and then retire.
baneling nest and 2 banes would delay nydus by 100 gas, defeating the point of fastest nydus challenge
edit: you're also investing 150 minerals, plus a mining drone... :\ so you're slowing down your 2nd queen, delaying zergling speed, and not for much value. Two banes could only kill maybe 4 SCVs surrounding the nydus which the queens and lings can do just as easily. Better to get 2 queens on time with ling speed to outmicro hellions and reapers.
@@SawyerSGN wait a sec, babe nest can be done without a lair
@@SawyerSGN if you delay long speed for a bit and actually build bane nest you don't lose any time lol. Check the replay gas count
9:38 How to lose 30 supply in 2 seconds. Also, that's why you get overlord speed when going mutas in ZvT lol
The look on his face is priceless
@@barnaclebob123 I literally had the same exact expression on my face watching it. Then I started laughing.
Harstem "I look like a Pr*ck for not ending this game..." Gets decimated by a widow mine.
technically be 4 widow mines XD
Better to look like an idiot than a prick I guess
Rather have a bad plan than no plan at all sounds similar like George S Patton's quote of "A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow."
11:33 "this guy can actually piss off, back into normal mode" 🤣🤣 Love your commentary Harstem
9:38 that squawk of terror is the sound I will now imagine mutas make when they see mines suddenly appearing
Those mines! Lmao 🤣 love how calm and sarcastic you always are wish more people could have that quality.
I don't know but something always makes me smile watching Hastem. I guess it's his positivity and laugh. World needs more Hastem's everywhere.... Thanks for your content!
I do a similar that opens hatch first against toss, and you pull 3 of the 6 drones off gas (Only need 3 on gas to sustain additional nydus). It hits a tiny bit later, but it looks more like a standard build and you can have 3 queens pop from the first nydus.
13 Overlord
16 Hatch
16 Extractor
17 Pool
20 Overlord
20 Lair1414
20 Extractor
19 Queen
21 2x Zerglings
22 2x Zerglings
-Drone up to 24
28 Metabolic Boost
-Mass Lings/Queens
34 Nydus Network (Around 3:04) - Pull 3 drones off gas.
Keep building queens and lings. Inject and go into nydus.
I miss Hastem playing Zerg. I need more!
“I don’t think my opponent realizes how far ahead I am” … loses 10 mutas to mines lol. It happens to everyone
9:25 OMFG 😂 This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all year!!
Games like this really show you whats so scary about a really good zerg player. Turning that economy into a 5 base hive tech economy that fast while still applying massive pressure constantly. Insane to watch. Inspiring.
Ayep, Рапунцуль is Rapunzel. Harstem also can read Cyrillic huh. Apart from knowing Dutch, English and probably some French and German.
Wie geht's, товарищ? Cheers et au revoir! No that hard, see.
27:31 the general argument for why booby trapping your home is illegal is because it cannot tell the difference between a criminal making an illegal entry and law enforcement making legal entry.
The zerglings started running across the map because you were still hotkeying eggs into your main army. So when you issued a command after the zerglings came out of the nydus, all the zerglings and eggs that were hotkeyed were told to run across the map lol. I used to do this, and now i just rally the eggs into the nydus and not hotkey them.
The "take, for example, Belgium [...]" joke was the funniest thing I heard in the last two-three days (and I've been watching other StarCraft UA-camrs constantly in the background).
@Harstem That one drone attached to the Spire for most of the game contemplating life...
12:10 he absolutely baited you into those mines that you're trying to play off as 100% your fault lol
Wow, I was surprised by Harstem being able to read Cyrillic. Good job Captain!
27:10
you got both of their names right (almost). at first they were the wet bandits, because they would leave the water running after they would rob a place.
then in the 2nd they were called the sticky bandits because they used double-sided tape to steal money from donation buckets.
Marv, when Marv kept getting hit by bricks and Harry was still encouraging The Kid to throw them. I pissed my pants laughing at that scene.
Just say no to throwing bricks, kids!
instant karma at 9:24 made my day
21:30 "If he loses he will be thinking about this Nydus build for the whole day." said the man thinking about the Nydus cheese that happened this morning.
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Base" - one of my favourite martial art movies ;)
9:38 That was the exact same face I made when I saw all those mines!
instant karma
I got a zvz build that i came up with 2 years ago...
1 base do the extractor trick at 14 with 150 minerals to get 15 and 16 drones. Cancel extractors. Build overlord then pool by your gas. 2 more drones. Double extractor and fill asap. Get queen asap and at least 1 spine preferably 2. No lings until after you get 5 hydras. Spread creep immediately towards ramp. Evo block the ramp with 2 evos and move a spine to the hole in middle. As spon as queen hatches build lair. If enemy is bane busting more spine back and replace with evo.
As soon as lair finishes build hydra den and then lurker building. Build 5 hydras. Once lurker den is done morph 3 lurkers. Make sure to build nydus asap before lurker den hatches. Then nydus their main if you can or between 3rd and natural. Enjoy 75% win zvz. 😎😎😎
Before nydus is done have at least 2 extra drones and load them in nydus right after a few lings. Then lurkers. Once you get a nydus in their base unload. Prioritize building spores with drones and spread lurkers out. Attack drones, pool, roach den or their ramp.
If you cant get a nydus up you expand and tech to hive. You will need vipers because they almost always go mutas... or mass roach ravenger.
Its such a fun build and you skip the annoying ling bane wars. Hahaha
Also, Roach/queen Nydus early has worked better for me on ladder than ling/queen nydus just do queen first as soon as pool is done for inject. depending how quick you do it, you can also squeeze in a started plus 1 range dmg in a evo chamber.
I was hit in the head with a brick. That's why I play toss.
lol easy race
I was entertained. Thank you to Jethro and yourself.
OK I can get behind almost everything in this but, please captain, for the love of god get overlord speed
You need to pull a baneling Nydus, preferably behind their mineral lines
12:00 This channel is gold, he is discussing with himself and giving himself credit for fucking up the game lmaoo I love it
"He's trying to trick me", falls for it anyway.
Oh Harstem, wahahah.
Captain I love your content. Keep up with the good work.
What a perfect moment at 9:33 XD
Wait...Home Alone wasn't a documentary?
Wondering if your bane detonation on your drones at 30:14 was intentional :P
Also, I wonder if vs zerg it would be better to rush nydus and then fill it with banes instead of lings. Sneaking a bunch of banes into their mineral line seems pretty decent. Or at least as one other comment said, put a bane or two in first so you can immediately detonate them on whatever is trying to defend the nydus (esp if they worker pull to defend)
I think in ZvZ you should switch it to a roach nydus all in. Roaches main weakness is their slow moving across the map.
Some nice surprises in this episode for all those bedtime watchers out there
Emotional rollercoaster at 9:25
Kevin, the cops in Home Alone were literally the bad guys aka the robbers 😂
9:40 was EPIC! I woke my wife sloughing...
have really enjoyed your vids lately. thanks for uploading etc ^^
nydus worms is one of the worst designs, it would take like 50 minutes for the coders to make pathfinding use nydus entries as part off the calc and auto use them as pathways, making zerg mobility truly awesome and making creep much more worth, allowing for P to not be so weak (yes i said it, thefk is up with protoss the strongest, most advanced, most badass race ever getting demolished fighting same or lower numbers off enemy from Zerg late game.. thats just absurd, collossus 14 range, double shield hp, 50% increased dmg or something like that... seriously protoss high tech units should be monstrous to fight; not something you viper pull into instant death, its so dumb...
... also who the hell thought air units should stack? air units use up space same as ground units; you can't stack 30 vikings on top off each other at max range and expect the top to hit where to bottom can... it also utterly breaks the balance between units... sry, rambling bc it bugs me how bad blizzard have been at managing the setup and balance off sc2....
also biomass is what zerg need, they are basically a copy version off tyranids which honestly is cool as fk, so why are they gathering minerals, why is there no mechanics for them getting resources out of killing on creep or dragging dead bodies, animals, trees etc. back to the base, using maybe nydus for safer resource gathering but needing a much wider area for drones to split out to gether from natural spawning biomass resources...
dreamed off the sc2 that should have been, or the sc3 that surely will never be :P
I like Harstem, and I like cheese. I expect I’ll like these videos a lot. But I gotta say that I did have a moment of disappointment when I realized this was not, in fact, a video about Has. There is a truly high bar to be reached, but I have faith in you, Harstem!
i think the only thing missing for a beautiful zerg is some confidence. (and maybe spore crawlers sometimes) your harass was great
As a Zerg player it was hilarious, the strategy was bound to fail in ZvZ, the fastest Nydus play is Roaches and Queens and maybe some lings.
I rather stick with a bad plan than have no plan at all - Quote by Harstem
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. - Quote by George S. Patton
You kind of have the same train of thought as George S. Patton.
i appreciate your commentating iits on point every time. with cool anologies. borad would say.: VERY NICE! I LIKE!
LOL! What an execution....
Great stuff 🐓👌; Shoutout to the mutas who bravely gave their lives for content
I learned this build and got masters in 2 hours. It took me 10 years to get masters as a macro toss
27:40 did the burglars cut the phone line so the kid can’t get help from the police?
I'm voting for protoss mass hallucinations for next episode.
Great video bro
You made me laugh so many times, great game!
"Don't let your hair down for strangers!"
1:33 that scv heard him 💀
Harstem puckers at 9:38. Best 10 seconds.
Belgium catching strays lol
can please tell me how you get that kinda of graphics in-game, my low graphics doesn't look like this. did you edit anything in txt ?
"This is the proper response, by the way. This is actually what you're supposed to do behind this....I think. I don't know, I'm just making it up right now"
Yup
31:28 rozkurwił :)
8:17 - Nah m8, just run for Republican office in America. You could make fun of people for having no money and fit right in!
So.. NoRegret had a mean arse nydus rush a few years ago, I think he qualified for GSL Rd32 with it if I remember correctly.
You open the same as you but you stop making drones at 19, and your natural is essentially a fake that never gets workers and is only made for lings. You hit when you have 2 dropper lords and 32 lings all up. 8 in each dropper lord, one hitting the main and one hitting the far side of the natural, the other 16 hit the front wall and then immediately sprint back to your nydus in your main and why this is happening you spawn the nydus at whichever of the the two dropper lords is less defended.
It was really strong and I almost never lost, I only stopped playing it cause I'm not really a cheesy player and it felt like it was just giving me a fake higher mmr then my skill was really at.
Game 1 was such a massive disappointment, you HAD IT. The times when you have one of these silly ideas that just immediately pops off in the first game is so satisfying. I was totally OK with it having not worked out immediately until you pointed out how many lings were behind! (Yeah, I clearly have no handle on the economy of this game.)
Does rallying to minerals with the hive (hatchery?) actually do anything?I thought you had to rally the eggs themselves.
Yes it does, that means every created drone will automatically go to the minerals. That's what you need to do for two reasons. First it allows you to saturate your bases efficiently, allowing you to get 16 on mins exactly before starting to rally to a new base, secondly it means drones don't transfer between bases in the earlygame, this is extremely important against adepts and oracles. If you look at any high level game they basically never individually rally worker outside of into gasses in the earlygame or later to not have to think about it.
I dunno if this is noob advice but couldnt you send a drone across the map under an overlord pooping creep to proxy the nydus to avoid scouting?
if by chance you see this Harstem, can you tell me your EXACT in-game graphical settings so that you can still see burrowed and invisible unit blurs?
cuz i prefer the low-grade graphics over the ultra even though i can run it at max graphics and still pull highest fps allowed.
i hope you see this or someone else who knows and is kind enough to tell me
i'd greatly appreciate it..
nydus spam early pulls insane amounts of workers, it could be used as constant mining time killer? just spam it
It costs tons of gas, though
10:58 Harstem learns from his mistakes.
Is not viable to nydus 2 or 3 drones for spine crawlers in ZvZ? That should put a lot of preassure
Just look at the game lol. How would he ever have a single spinecrawler survive even half the duration it's building if he has 8-12 lings less and he still lost to banes.
"Didn't they change the Coca Cola formula at some point?"
Trust me Cap, it was better with cocaine.
Ordinary SC2 player: NO! I got cheesed! Learn to play you cheesing n00b!!!!1
Based Captain: Nice cheese you got there, you mind if I borrow it?
How about a few roaches mix in the modus rush?
my dude. if you've invested 99% of your economy into a giant muta flock... and the literal only way you could lose is to accidentally flying into widow mines, consider spending 100 minerals and 100 gas on overlord speed rather than building 1 more muta
Liking this in memory of those mutas that died to the mine.
you know how to read cyrillic?
Thank you just did this against a Diamond 3 Protoss player and it worked
What resolution are you using? The resolution looks terrible.
Sorry but I laughed so hard at 9:39 (start it at 9:26 tho) 😂😂
I think in the very last match you maybe could have maneuvered to using the Mutas to kill your opponents Overlords, but I'm not sure to be honest.
Do you spend all day playing games and give us the best or only record 2-4 games
How you feel about Belgium is how Americans feel about the Netherlands.
YOU CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!!! 🗣🗣😤😤
jaw dropped when those mutas got hit xD
Dude where is it?
I'm glad to ses I'm not the only one who screws up against banes.
1st game I was yelling at the screen ovie speed, ovie speed
9:00 - It looked like you're wasting a lot of time sharking around the front of his base with those mutas. Make a run around the back to draw units off the front and keep them out of position.
I think you should try it with a baneling nest against zerg. Delay speed and get the nest instead
I'm like a 900mmr. So you probably should pay me no attention.. That said, I used to do this build like 10 years ago. The trick, imo, is to just keep chucking more and more into the nydus. I also like immediately going into banelings and keep sending them in. It becomes an attrition match at that point. The point is not let your opponent recover from the 1st hit.
The fact that you immediately go into banelings means that you did not play this build. Nor was this even possible 10 years ago because you started with 6 and not 12 worker.
@@mothrahlurker788 yea, it's called you build more workers.. It's a nydus rush. Not really a difference between a nydus rush now and then, perhaps it came like a minute later.. but the principles was the same.
the Coca-Cola recipe was perfect, then they changed it by taking out the coca and replacing it with lame old caffeine.
Quick Question. I’ve noticed that pro players don’t use traps so are they really that bad at the top level? I’ve never played Starcraft 2 though only the first game
What is a trap? If you mean stasis trap, then they absolutely do get used at the top level. Common in PvP vs batteries, defensively, in PvZ with oracle gateway style to protect against lingflinks, later on against banelingrunbies and against terran to stall pushes.
"jethro".
how biblical
Been doing this build on North American server for the last couple years..fun cheese.
Love your videos!
8:17 HARSTEM 2024