Stephen A., Pat Bev & Perk face off in a heated James Harden debate 🗣️ | First Take
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- Stephen A., Pat Bev & Perk face off in a heated James Harden debate 🗣️ | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Patrick Beverley and Kendrick Perkins have a heated debate about whether James Harden deserves the supermax.
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I swear whenever Pat Bev is on first take they always have this supermax debate. Can we just move past it lmao 🤣
On god 😂😂
Lol. Rating man. If this keeps getting the top ratings they will play it until Harden gets a deal. No joke. They don't care about us viewers man. They care what gets views even if views and likes don't correlate.
They really think he gonna change his mind lol
Pretty sure the only reason they invited him back was to get to this topic again
nope. look at view count for all the prev same segments. ratings gold
Pats face is so hilarious. You don't know if he's trolling or being serious
The greatness in it is the honesty. If he’s that good at trolling through facial expression, he needs to consider film as his next career!
To Pat Bev, it's the same thing.
He's gonna be great when Chuck retires
@@Sixfigas he played in captain Phillips already!
He be serious
Had Perk on the far right looking like a character we haven’t unlocked yet. 💀
Lmao “New Challenger” perk look like he got a tan..
Lmfaooo
😂😂😂😂😂😂
🎯 🤣🤣🤣
Like Noob Saibot?
Pat Bev tryna move past the fact that CP3 dropped 40 on his head and eliminated him last year 😂😂
FACTS
Plus he pushed him in the back for no reason
He changed the subject so fast
41😂😂😂
yup. when facts don't match his narrative he changes the subject like a coward. if he wants this to be his post-playing career, he will need to work on that. he's still very raw and debates with emotion instead of facts
Pat Bev + irritated Kendrick Perkins = FIRE
I-I-I I'm try- ... I'm tryna tell ya th... I- I
You mean Noob Saibot?
@@jordanb.4514 slobbin 😭😭🤣🤣🤣💀💀
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They got Kendrick Perkins looking Darker than his suit😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m not the only one who noticed they turned my mans into a silhouette 👤🤣
🤣🤣🤣
God forbid I ever get a hamstring injury cus harden makes it look like a death sentence 😂
All them private dances/champagne rooms might have something to do with that "hamstring issue" too bruh.. lol !
Kyle Lowry looking just as bad dealing with one 😂 and so did Devin Booked in game 7 lmao
@@jasonroane2059 💯
@@longlivedonda7596 booker can’t use that as an excuse, he got hurt and came back in the same Pelicans series, played well against the mavs until game 6, dude just choked that game
@@mattpassos5689 agreed😂 but Suns fans will use the excuse lmao
Stephen A : CP3 dropped 41 on y’all in an elimination game…
Beverly: HOLD UP NOW?! Why we bringing up facts!? 🤡
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Kendrick telling pat bev to take notes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perkins is the dumbest dude in all of sports debate. Who cares what he says
@@bruno5760 agreed. KP is the DJ khaled of analysts. I also think pat bev is kinda dumb too and I think his run on first take/espn was showing and also all for some clout.
Why did pat bev have to say at the end that he judges Perk by the fact that Perk's answer changed while his own didn't change? That just shows that Perk is adjusting his opinion based on analysis of what's happening in real life. On the other hand, Pat Bev sticking to his view that Harden should get supermax no matter what just simply shows his bias and disregard for objectivity, proving Perk's point that he's not keeping the same energy when he's talking about players he doesn't like (CP3) vs players who are his boys (Harden). The way he responded to SAS and Perk just kinda felt personal and salty...
It is personal and salty but being the person and player pat bev is he gone stand on his word and what he think whether he anyone things or for that matter proves he’s right or wrong. He rather be consider unwavering in analogical situation than adjust but it’s def personal
Regular season perk would say that harden get max 82 games but playoffs don’t get him super max. You know how many players not get super max that was the case
Lol you heard him call CP3 a overrated Cone last week and thought it wasn’t personal?
I've mentioned it elsewhere but Bev debates with emotions, not facts. He has to work on that if, like he's said, he wants to do this kind of stuff when he's done playing or else he's going to keep looking like a petulant child
Because it is he want 2 be a top dog so bad when really he not that guy..even on defence he's ok but he not great
Pat is the ultimate menace 🤣
perk was about to slap him lol
@@markwootson5550 perk soft anytime someone call him out he get in his feelings (KD,draymond and now pat)
@@markwootson5550 lmao. Perk is right though. No one in their right mind would give harden a Supermax
PEST
Nah fr😭😭😂
i think harden is a good player but you can’t be traded to a team to score the ball and shoot the ball 2 times in the second half in a elimination game especially if you got traded for ben simmons a guy who wouldn’t shoot.
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FACTSSS!!!
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Spot on!
well he can and he did :D
Kendrick to Pat Bev: "Might want to take notes"
Me: Lol
I don’t even agree with Pat Bev but it is so funny how he can say two words and make SAS backpedal so hard
Backpedal?
Backpedal where?
@@artmessiah83 nowhere
Facts Stephen a always do dat like stand on dat he did bring up how Dey got dropped 40 on tho
@@IMSLIMEFR Dev tried to speed back past that quickly as possible. 😂🤦🏾
5:25 “it wasn’t the same energy” implying he was critiquing somebody one way and judging another player completely differently ie switching up. Beverly’s response “and I’m entitled to that right?” Okay so you’re openly admitting that you’re a hater? As long as you aren’t fooling yourself I guess lmao
He got his own personal agendas based on his NBA Journey he hates on the Suns and Celtics, CP3 and Marcus Smart.
Exactly. Got that victim mentality. No real accountability.
Glad Perk called him out on his bs
Pat don’t lies let be known speak man keep it 100
Exactly...
Pretty funny how those first few days Pat couldn’t wait to talk about CP3. You couldn’t shut him up on those rants. Now that he’s getting called how and made to look like a fool he doesn’t wanna talk about Chris Paul at all 😂 SAS says “he dropped 41 on you to send you home last year” and Pat dismissed it and said he didn’t wanna talk about him. He tried to dismiss Perk’s points and say he’s only talking about Harden and said “next.” Gee I wonder what changed?
Pat BEV said “Your answer seems to change mine don’t and I gotta judge a man off that.” Lmfao this guy is crazy 🔥😂😂
That’s literally not how debating is supposed to work. You SHOULD change your opinion if evidence shows you you were wrong. Not double down on your ignorance. Why do y’all continue to support this? Cause he’s funny? I find it hilarious that so many people complain about Skip doing it but wanna defend Pat when he just openly admitted he won’t let new information change his opinion regardless, which is… unprofessional.
That’s not crazy that’s an attack on the principles of these dudes in the media. If you said he should get the max before the playoffs when his game was dead similar to how it was in the playoffs then stand on that. All this being wishy washy is clearly just for tv and Pat Bev is letting it be known what current players think about that
@@jamiethomas5849 every year in the nba we always hear “guys earn their money from the playoffs” that goes for role players all the way up to stars. If Ben Simmons was going to be a free agent the off-season after his epic Atlanta choke job, do you seriously think he gets offered the same mad deal they offered him a year earlier?
@@UnclePyro21 Perk changes his opinion every single day, your opinion can evolve, but should it be changing from one side to the other every day like Perk? No. Bev is looking at this season and giving Harden a bit of grace on the hamstring injury.
@@mattpassos5689 don’t give me media quotes. I just like Pat Bev am speaking about principles. Don’t change your opinion because it sounds good now because it comes off as you hoping against a man getting his money
Saw the thumbnail & had to click 😂. Also why is Pat Bev sitting sideways like that? 😂
Lol 😂
Shot out to Paul Wall sittin' sideways
@CUE TIP
Looking like prince/ lord Beverly 🤣🤣
Real talk, an OG taught me you gotta talk to someone sideways when you don't know their plight or don't know them personally until you can feel their earnest and honest aptitude
@@TheCre88tor your og dumb and feminine, my og taught me look a person in the eyes when you talk to them face to face as a man should.. it puts pressure on them cause if you dont then they try to talk sideways.. you need to be able to read so you know if you need to react.. art of war
Lol Perk out here looking like Noob Saibot off of Mortal Kombat
Underrated comment 🤣🤣 NS my boy tho
Man fix Perk lighting!
😂😂😂
Pat when your defense falls off they will also treat you like harden and don’t want to pay you.
He will get treated worse , bc he has never been elite . They will simply jus not sign him, nd it wont be a ESPN vid about it either lmao
Pats argument makes no sense, just cause harden played decent in the regular season doesn’t mean we discard the playoffs when it actually matters. You don’t get a super max just because of the regular season
Actually yes do and PLENTY of players has...since 1990...MJ, Tim, Shaq, Kobe, LBJ, Steph has won multiple NBA titles...now think about the guys who didn't during this same time but still got Super Max deals because they were still productive and good during the season..Harden avg 22, 10, and 8...are you kidding me? I'm not even a fan of his but it's like Westbrook...these guys had down year but still put up productive numbers...despite being on new teams and new system.
@@rmuzic6531 numbers don't tell the whole story. And everybody you just mentioned are champions and affected winning titles. He's had a max deal already and how did he repay the team he quit. This fool quit on two teams and mentality checked out on another team when it was money time. Pleeeease stop the 🧢
@@cojack636 Westbrook got a super max he don’t got a ring
You get the supermax to take your team to the promised land. CP3 never does. So yes Pat Bev's original take makes sense. He is defending Harden the same way they and everyone are defending CP3. The media picks who they like and defend them to the end. Sheeple follow those opinions. here is a fact. the past 5 years there was only 1 year people didn't fear to play Harden. people never fear to play CP3.
@@mlg2781 I never said anything about cp3 I’m talking about Harden. Neither has won but get big money. Harden never made conference finals without cp3 as a “star” not okc days and cp3 made the finals and carried a okc team trash team
I actually agree w perk for once lmaooo he gave it to bev 💯
Perk look like a silhouette 👤
😂😂
My response to Patrick Beverly is the wise words of Shaquille O'Neal : "Whoever is paying you to say James Harden deserves the super duper duper duper duper duper max I will pay you double to make you stop."
Any other current player would say the same. Get yo money Harden
@@briteslider Yea cause that will be 1 less team they have to worry about
@@luny2nez281 facts bro 😂
@@luny2nez281 Every team isn’t designed to win 💡
Hearing Patrick Beverly in First take makes my blood pressure goes up… good and bad lol.
Perk looking like a locked character 😅
I just spit out my drink 😭😂😂
That was completely thorough and enjoyable to conversation to watch!!! Best segment in months!
Is Pat Bev getting a cut of Harden’s contract? Or Pat Bev is actually Harden’s agent? Because he’s going out of his way, so much that he’s killing his post-NBA career opportunity and credibility for it.
Harden getting a max is already borderline lunacy, Harden getting a super max is like hoping Kyrie playing an entire season without missing any game
Perk said it best, he's not keeping that same energy with Harden like he did with CP3. PAtty is too emotional to be on TV when his buddies are being discussed.
@@cavemanyogi150 he’s not emotional, he’s delusional and disrespectful. He thinks he’s backing up his statement with facts and numbers, but got called out for using regular season stats on Harden and post season stats on CP3. He’s destroying his credibility on national TV, I hope his TV earning is baked into Harden’s next contract.
@@tonkotsuramen4206 I like pat when he’s on court not when he’s talking with Stephen a just Wierd
@@allpraisestoyah5033 never been a fan of Pat, he’s known for his defense but not exactly a lock down defender and not even close to a Bruce Bowen level. He’s just a talker who plays hard on defense, that’s it. And then he went on ESPN to expose himself
na harden and bev are just p tight they boys so it makes sense
Bev's gotta be Harden's cousin, or godfather of one of his kids that's yet to be public knowledge. Perk did make a great point about how can Harden play so conservatively facing elimination, when you'd think at this point of his career he'd be desperate to win a championship?
No, Bev is saying what any other current NBA player would say, Give him his bag.
@@briteslider i agree harden putting up 22 8 9🤣 anyone else doing that getting that bag
@@joshuacardona7780 yea but harden averaged like 3rd most points in nba history so that’s not good enough for a scorer
@@briteslider like they said this isn’t harden first deal max made over 400 plus million dude
@@gwandaman1330 How is that relevant to what i said?
How can you justify giving somebody a super max when he has proven time and time again that he can’t win you a chip? His skills are declining… he only put up 2 shots in the last half of a must win game. If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about James than you can’t be saved. If another team wants to give him a super max - let them. He’s not helping that team win either.
Winning a championship is never required to get a supermax, in fact most players under or eligible to get supermax hasn't won any chip. But i agree, in my opinion Harden doesn't deserve it.
Yeah but his age alone isn't worth it. He isn't even "box office". One trick pony declining. He isn't even entitled to 70% of the max
76ers will destroy their organization giving Harden a super max; not only does that leave them little to no breathing room to sign pieces they NEED, and it makes no sense to run it back with the same squad. Nobody is picking up Harris contract for that amount of money; and how is it going to look for a player who JUST got there, hasn’t done anything deserving of that amount of money, and isn’t sacrificing for the betterment of the team? Maxey and Thybulle ain’t sticking around for that garbage
"Yo answer seem to change. Mine dont" Pat Bev
@@doesntmatter6453 Harden could average 1 PPG and Pat would still say he deserves a super max bc his opinion don‘t change😂
Bro they love talking about whether or not Harden deserves the supermax, we’ve legit seen this debate happen 3 times in the past week with the same people
But he doesn't deserve it right?😂
He said what he said I don't get why keep trying to make him change his mind lol just move on
@@REALTRUEJOURNEY cuz Pat bev spoke on Kendrick Perkins when he wasn’t there about this topic
@@culturehub2628 who cares lol perk really butthurt all that yelling he thought pat would back down
It's called pushing a topic, aka they're trying to speak it into reality. The gov is really good at this 👌
4:51 what in the world was Perk saying 🤣🤣
Perc up there looking like a hidden character 🤣
Perks face after the 41 points in game 6* comment gave me the laugh I needed 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The literal definition of “propagation of an agenda”
Covid vaccines and gun control is an agenda. James just sucks and his age doesn't warrant a max. Learn to know what an agenda really is. James isn't important
“Regarding w what” 😂
“I’ll teach you later.” 😂😂😂😂
Pat Beverly getting annoying. Says other are hypocrites but he’s the worst one with his CP3 take.
Lol u right . I think he know he cap but he just don’t like him
5:16 “I’ll teach you later” 😂😂😂
No lie Beverley be killing them with the simplest comeback
He wasn’t killing anyone . He did however beat around the bush
Perk forgot to turn his lights on. He sitting over there looking like an unlockable character in a fighting game
Bev didn’t want to talk about CP3 dropping 40 on them
Ikr😁
I’m a Sixers fan and I honestly think we should get rid of Harden and Harris and build around Maxey and Embiid. Morey needs to go out and get guys who play hard, can shoot 3s and play some defense
Solid take 👍🏽
so you mean you wanna be the warriors
@@crini413 pretty much everyone wants to shoot 3s instead of working on every other part of their game, and that’s why teams like Philly mavs houston etc don’t get fat because they chuck up 3s all day
Maxey got off cus nobody was game planning for him with attention on him and he don’t have the sane year yall gon be callin for his head or another star
Lakers need guys who play hard, can shoot 3s and plays defense
I just can't get over the fact that Draymond Green had the audacity to call Big Perk an ogre 🤣
Lol 😅 So true
Please stop giving Pat Beverly a platform to create controversy. I get it, the bickering drives up ratings and makes money for the network, but it's exhausting. KP was spot on by stating that at this point in Harden's career it's about legacy, and he should be willing to take less in order for the team to add talent around him, Embiid, and Maxey. Pat's over here making little sly comments and remarks and it's not entertaining, it's embarrassing to be quite honest.
Thank you
100% He got his few days on the show but now let's move on..they're so thirsty for ratings lol
Dude clearly doesn't have what it takes to give an unbiased take on anything.
yeah I agree with Preston Johnson here. I get the ratings going up for the arguments and things. It's fun at first. But it only STAYS fun if both parties can keep doing it in an UNBIASED or sensible way. Beverly has a clear sense of bias when he speaks.
The problem here is you have people that sit here and cheer Beverly like "he's holding the meida accountable" blah blah blah. When in truth he's not. Mainly because his arguments don't have merit. And if you need proof of people cheering it, just look at some of the comments here as well as the amount of likes they have.
I just laugh because when it's Stephen A or Shannon Sharpe, the argument is "well they never played pro basketball so they don't know". But when former players like Perkins or Reddick say something thing the argument is "stop speaking on another man's money".
Bet you right now if they were saying "Pat Beverly should get the supermax" he wouldn't have ANY issue with them talking about a player's money.
Omg, he's back. 😂
Whyyyy 😂😂
I never payed attention to how funny it is when u realize they keep blinking 😂
“Might wanna take notes” 😂😂😂
Pat Bev should have a podcast and more work in the media.
How he a PEST
I love this right here 😂😂😂
I never seen a bully analyst like Pat Bev lol
He not gonna last. Chris Carter wasn't this bad
@@joeljohnson6137 he is paid and will be successful in the media.
He’s too aggressive!
@@newbeginnings9457 it's fake aggression. He's in character.
Pat Bev, don't ever change! Intelligent smoke throughout your dialog. Love it!
This man really says nothing for as long as he's talking on television. And when someone traps him or jams him up in a conversation he switches to something else
watching this on live TV made it hilarious. Really brought smoke
Way past smoke. Perk looks like a piece of charcoal here. Lol
Hahaha the way pat bev blinks got me dying hahaha
Them ESPN cameras must be BRIGHT
Everybody just can’t stop BLINKINGG!
It's always heated, gets off, blows up, goes off,
The way Stephen A emphasized “41” had pat bev tight 😂
“You should take notes” 😂😂 perk a beast as an analyst!
Pat face when Stephen A said "cp3 dropped 40 on ya"😂😂😂
Got big perk looking like a locked character
Pat bev is chilling 😂😂😂
Mad comfortable 🤣
Pats faces and reactions to Stephen A Are hilarious 🤣 must see tv definitely bring him back espn
Your answer seems to change, mines don't.. OUCH!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Pat Bev is a perfect example of people who have a job and know little about the job
Ask pat why harden didn’t even look interested during the heat series outside of one game
How come you know his not interested? Cuz if were talking about how he look. Everyone in that game look like they not interested.
@@enrqiuemacalintal9793 …. So he (harden) just played that bad on accident?
@@culturehub2628 the way I interpret that is he doesn't love basketball anymore that's how I feel he doesn't look like someone on the court enjoying what he's doing he hasn't since he lost to the warriors he just doesn't take it seriously
@@enrqiuemacalintal9793 nah harden was just indifferent. The whole series. Except the one game when his step back was falling
Its because his teammates and coaches didn't bring him to be the main scorer and yes they also want him to score at some point. But all of you gotta understand that his role is to take ben role which is being there pg even doc and others knows that you can include danny. And what I see from that series is when jo didn't win the MVP is when he lost his sense and starting to feel all the injuries he had. I'm not saying his not allowed to be fatigued but that guy has been enduring all those injuries he even said that "african guys don't feel pain" until the MVP awarding the series became a one sided game and his motivation to win a ring lost. He was so distracted. I think during this series his focus is more on individual achievement that winning as a whole. So its typical for casuals to blame james for that series instead of accepting the fact that its on the team.
Love how They brought up Chris 41 on Pat and The clips
They talk about this every, single day 🤦🏽♂️
Pat bev I respect your game …. But before you come for CP3 I think you need to do more honestly
Hopefully Pat doesn't over stay his welcome. Soon as he says something too wild he's outta there. ESPN is just riding the wave for now.
Lol Facts
Hope so…
First Take was must see TV today...
This aged well
This is like the 109th time we discussed this
Bev got mad wen Stephen said cp3 dropped 41 on them😂
😂😂😂
“your answer seem to change mine don’t” 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That last statement by was crazy lol facts
Perkins an unlocked player or something turn a lamp on dawg
If a team wants to win, Harden cant eat up 1/3 of the team salary
And 3/4 cheesesteaks as well
@@chrisjacobs9101 lame
“I’ll teach you” 😂😂😂
Only so many times you can have this debate 🤣
Bruh. How many times are they going to talk about this topic💀
ESPN really did a 3 split screen with just SAS and Pat Bev. 🤣
Lmao
Where? Timestamp?
How many times are they going to have this debate?
Ol school first take I love this 😆
Pat Bev is entertaining
Where are Perk's lights...😂
he definitely at the crib 😂
lol i know right
A silhouette
How many times are we going to speak on the same topic
“What you do being a pest” 🤣
Keep killing em by exposing them Bev. Perkins the hypocrite. All time duo but no super max 🤣🤣
So being proven wrong and being honest about it is being a hypocrite? Y’all kill me because when Skip does this everybody hates it, rightfully so. He has an opinion of LeBron and won’t change it despite whatever evidence kills that. And he forms his evidence based off of his opinion, not the other way around. But for some reason you guys are loving that that’s exactly what Pat Bev is doing. And even criticizing Perk for changing his opinion after being presented with new evidence instead of doubling down in his ignorance like Skip does. The dickriding y’all doing for Bev is wild.
😞
I’ll admit to it.
Having Pat Bev on First Take has made the show fun again. He brings the heat and gets the others riled up lmao. That’s what this show was about, not “I respectfully disagree”.
Why does Big Perk’s lighting have him looking like Wesley Snipe’s shadow? 😂😂😂
They is still talkin bout this…..
ESPN's NBA coverage has found its stride this season - adding JJ and Pat Bev to the mix has elevated the analysis and focus of these debates, and Stephen A. has been at the top of his game even when JJ isn't in the room - KP is really shining in this mix as well, even though this isn't that interesting of a conversation I just think these debates are entertaining af
Funny how people get upset when you holding them accountable 😆 🤣😆! I'm not a Pat Bev fan but he keeping it 100!
they are holding him accountable. you're not paying attention
@@Chris.41 what? He said situations change. Before the playoffs, he deserved the super max. The playoffs happened, and he doesn’t deserve the supermax anymore. How is perk wrong?
@@Chris.41 nah harden does not deserve a Supermax after giving up on 2 teams within a year 😂 he got hurt on the nets came back and requested a trade and came to the sixers and refused to score and couldn’t score and they got whipped . He’s hurting his team
Whoa, thought Wyclef was debating Stephen A. for a minute there.
Literally how many times are they gonna have this same conversation on this show. This is like the 5th time in the past week
Pat is getting double teamed for talking about CP3. He got Stephen A and Big Perk on their toes...
he's a biased analyst. he literally has no one on their toes
@@Kevinschart THANK YOU bruh these guys gotta be trolling in these comment no way they’re real. Dude openly admitted in just this segment to critiquing players differently (which is wrong) and to not changing his opinions when presented with new information. He was called out for both things and these dummies are like “omg Pat Bev killing these dudes!!!” Like did I miss something?
So when Stephen A goes light on Aaron Rodgers he's not biased. You guys sound like cheerleaders who never got to cheer. Pathetic
@@rashadsmith6911 the question is whether or not pat bev is biased. stop changing the subject. pathetic.
@@Kevinschart love when they deflect like that’s an argument. Were you there with me when SAS was being biased? No? Oh okay. He making up hypotheticals to support his nonsense.
Perk energy is soo real I love it bro
Better lighting for Perkins too..
get perk some lighting my goodness