Resolve Airbag Error After Removing Sienna's Seats
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- *2022 update*: my products are now compatible with all configs of the 2022 Sienna (and many other Toyotas/Lexus)! Refer to the table here for the right dongles for your vehicle: bradshacks.com...
Here's how to get rid of the airbag warning message and make the airbag system work like normal, after removing the 4th-gen (2021-) Toyota Sienna's 2nd-row seats.
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*2024 update*: my products are now compatible with all configs of the 2021-2024 Sienna (and many other Toyotas/Lexus)! Refer to the table here for the right dongles for your vehicle: bradshacks.com/product/airbag-simulator/
Hello ! I have 2021 sienna limited
I have 2 plug
You web 1 plug
I don't know
which item order??
@@Parkskifamily you need 2 round plugs for 2 seats, or 1 round plug for 1 seat
What about a 2023 Toyota sienna xle 7 seater?
Hi, I have a 2023 Toyota sienna XLe I want to remove the seats but I don’t want to ruin the wiring system or anything like that so if I follow your directions I shouldn’t have any problems with the wiring system, correct?
You’re actually the greatest I didn’t have an obd2 scanner to clear the srs after the front seat delete and it’s annoying beeping, just placed an order for one of these dongles for my Camry
I removed the 2nd row seats on my 2022 Sienna 8 seat work van and the error popped up right away. After a little searching on UA-cam, I came across this video and purchased the required parts and they worked perfectly! Thank you Brad for the amazing product. I highly recommend this to anyone who has the same error! 👌🏻
These plugs worked perfectly for my 2024 Sienna after removing the middle seats! Brad gives fantastic customer service.....one of the plugs was defective and he sent a replacement BY AIR and it arrived the next day! Thank you so much, Brad! I'm loving the new, larger space thanks to your genius invention! 😁
I just bought a 2022 Sienna XSE. I purchased the 2 square dongles and 2 round dongles. When I took the seat cover off it had 3 wires instead of 2. I used the dongles on the 2 connectors that were yellow, one round one square. Left the 3rd one empty that was white. It worked great, no error light ! I left the rails in covered it with with an old dog bed to protect the lose wire ends. And then covered it with a rubber liner. Thanks Brad for this product.
Brad, you're a legend. Thanks for this video and for making a solution available, and thanks for cancelling my order when I requested you to do so. You're exactly the kind of person I like seeing do well on the internet.
Thank you Mik. I saw your note about wiring harness information and service manual. Since you're here on UA-cam I can send links here. You can find those on Toyota Technical Information System techinfo.toyota.com. You can get access to the manuals technicians use there. 2 day subscription is $20. It's what I used to figure out the seat removal.
@@BradsHacks do you know if the manual includes info on how to remove interior trim panels, esp. the rear ones?
Welp, the 2021 Sienna's back on my purchase list. I thought I was going to have to go with a 2019 or 2020 for my build. THANK YOU Brad for figuring this out and sharing your solution!
For anyone that has a 2023. I had to buy both round and square and match it to the yellow. Thanks again Brad.!!
Do you know if it affects your warranty on your Toyota sienna 2023 van if you take out the chairs?
That's really impressive work! My plan is to get an AWD Hybrid Sienna and remove these seats to make it into a stealth camper. Well done Brad...kudos!
You are the miracle solution that people pray to find when they come to youtube with a problem, Brad. You are a genius and a life saver. Thank you.
Hey Brad! Thanks so much for the rush on the airbag override part! After taking my Toyota for service and realizing they tossed the first one I bought, I was super stressed out to get my build done in time for my first trip next week. Super appreciate getting this little piece in time to finish up and get everything installed before the trip.
Thanks for all you do! Cheers from Canada!!
They threw away your property ?!?! What the... ?
@@Chris_Wolfgram haha yeah super random, and annoying. It was in a cup holder and they just… chucked it. I asked about it when I realized it was missing the next day and the dude that cleaned the car said he thought he put it back but maybe threw it out cause he thought it was broken plastic 😂😂😂
I just got mine - They fit like a glove! (2023 Toyota Sienna XLE) - THANK YOU BRAD for solving the problem. Don't get me started on Toyota.
Hi Brad, I ordered the product last week for my toyota sienna 8 seat xle model car. my vehicle has one yellow connector per seat. so a total of two yellow connectors. so I ordered two dongles. I read 150 comments in your video one by one to understand how to do it. In the end, I put the product in my car as you described, albeit with fear. and it worked. The airbag problem is gone from my screen. Thank you so much for developing such a great product. 👍👏😍
Want to buy a 2022 Sienna but the middle seat piece is problematic. Your solution for the 2021 is wonderful. Please post when you design the 2022 version. Great video.
Thank you! I bought my 2023 Sienna trusting that the seat removal and dongles would make it usable for my needs.
I was a bit skeptical about my ability to remove the seats and order the correct parts. You made it all very doable. I am up and running without mid seats!
Absolutely fabulous videos showing and explaining the removal of 2nd row seats in a 4th generation Sienna! Some of the most clear and logical instructional videos I’ve ever seen - WELL DONE, BRAD!!!
In your videos you mentioned that it’s a bit more difficult to remove the 2nd row seat rail carriages (but you didn’t say it is impossible). Have you done this and made an instructional video for it? I *really* need them out of the way for the flattest floor possible.
Genius! I just purchased one. Before finding this follow-up video, I was pretty mad about the whole situation; constant error messages is a deal-breaker. Anyway, thank you!
Took possession of my XSE yesterday and will be following your 2nd row seat removal instructions today! THANKS SO MUCH for making your dongle available to the public and for making it so affordable…. Will order it right away to send up to 🇨🇦. It really is a top notch solution! 👍👍
Is your Sienna a 2022? What about the third plug? Thanks!
@@plumedargent4459 hi, it was a 2021 (I sold it because I didn’t need a van anymore). It only required 2 dongles, one for each middle seat. What are you referring to by the “3rd plug”?
@@plumedargent4459 Per the new diagram he provided, the third plug(white) you don't need anything
OMG Brad I'm getting my 2024 Sienna next month, I just heard the 2nd row seats were non-removable. So glad to have found your channel, I'm going to try this out. And it looks so easy. Definitely a new subscriber.
Just received the two dongles for the 2022 and it worked perfectly! Thanks Brad for your effort in making these!
Brad, thank you for your videos, we just removed the twin middle seats from our Sienna 2021 and used the pin for the airbag system. Worked like magic!
Brad-You are an Engineering DIY Rockstar! Keep up the Sienna hacks!
Excellent engineering! This opens up a whole new world of possibilities for me.
Brad, we do campervan conversions on the Sienna. Thank you for developing this. I'll order some of these.
Hi Aaron. I'm doing my own conversion-it worked out pretty well for my 2014 Sienna, so now I'm starting on my brand new 2021 one. I haven't worked out how to remove the inner rails of the second row seats, though. It seems I need to pull out the muffler to access the nuts from the underside. Have you found another way? Thanks!
Aaron, where are you located?
I got the 2nd row out, but would love someone else to finish it
Brad: the dongles worked! You need a little more relief on the locking clip for the square dongle. I had to use a clamp to get it to push in far enough to lock. Once I did that, the airbag warning went away. Thanks - getting those middle seats out is such a better solution!
Wow! Best example of how People can benefit from UA-cam. Thank you Brad! Now I'm reconsidering to buy latest Sienna. Toyota, you have to appreciate Brad's work. :)
you are the goat bro!!! I just got the same janky box resistor from amazon and had the same thought; that if it gets hit too hard airbags might fly. I was about to break out the calipers and make my own but i dont see a reason to reinvent the wheel. You made my car camper build in my Toyota CHR way easier.
amazing engineering! i cant wait to see the ottoman conversion. subscribed!
Brad - thank you so much for providing this solution and these videos about the Toyota Sienna 2nd row seat removal issue that Toyota simply won't address. I watched the two videos (the original about the removal of the seats) and this video and went ahead and ordered the appropriate Airbag Simulator solution from your website. I was so paranoid about going through video #1 steps and took my 2022 Sienna LE to one of the local (Tucson) Toyota dealers in town - they wanted to charge me 3 hours worth of labor a(!?!) nd would not assume liability issues of the removal of the seats and affects on the airbag power adapters - I went along with that and the seats were disconnected. Anyway, after that was done, they wouldn't touch your Simulator resistors so I followed your instructions in this video today: I removed the positive connection from the hybrid battery, plugged in the Simulator dongles - easy-peasy! Restored the positive connection terminal, started the Sienna back up without a problem, resolved the door opening issues, and NO More airbag malfunction error messages!
So, the end result: the 2nd row seats are removed, the airbag warning messages are gone, and I have a huge amount of cargo space available. A funny thing is: I was texting with the Toyota service representative about the removal process and even sent the UA-cam links to your videos - they still stood by "liability" issues.
Again, thanks for your research and work on developing the Simulator dongle - a truly elegant solution.
Well done Brad. It’s October 2022 and your video remains relevant! Thank you from San Diego 🇺🇸
You have now re-convinced me on buying this gen Sienna again. Thanks!
Wow, you are extremely intelligent. The amount of critical thinking in this video was astounding.
Thank you so much Brad for posting this how-to. This was my biggest worry about removing the second row seats and I too can breathe easier knowing the airbag system should perform as designed.
Are you or anyone sure the airbag system will work properly from its original intention without this dongle being tested repeatedly? Seems like an unnatural scenario for this vehicle imho, hard to say too, cuz now I’ve decided not to get the Sienna hybrid because of this issue. This is tricky territory. We are talking lifesaving safety sophistication. I don’t think should be messed with. Toyota totally fumbled here. I’m out!
Thanks Brad. The removal went great.(Lifted the seats out by myself, so it's doable) Your dongles worked great. Couldn't have done it without your helpful videos.
I give you 5 stars This is the most Convenient way to take car of the Airbag light! I have not had one problem since I've installed them into my 2000 Celica I Purchased the "Round Plugs". about 3 Months +
I'm very impressed with your ingenuity. Awesome creativity and great work! Thx!
This is amazing, not an owner of a 2021 sienna. But this will definitely be useful for some people.
This might actually be pretty useful for diagnosing electrical problems!
THANK YOU very much for this solution. I have the 2021 XSE sienna and had to get the seats removed for cargo. The permanent warning is so annoying. You are very ingineous. I'm ordering your product.
Thanks for the video Brad! I would love to see the ottoman conversion tutorial. My family is considering buying a new Sienna to replace our old Honda Odyssey. We want to get the ottoman seats; however, we also want AWD. I will definitely consider donating!
These work great we have 3 2022 sienna mini. Vans that had the 2nd row seats removed for and engineering project and no one would tell us how to turn off the airbag light then I found brads site it shoveled the problem.
Thanks Brad for your dedication, passion and innovation for the engineering solutions. Big Thumb UP!!! By the way, Brad's simulator plugs also work for 2022 Sienna all models. I have a 2022 Sienna LE, works great! Let's all subsribe and share Brad's passion!
Hey, are you sure? Another guy saying not working properly for his 2022.
Mine didn’t work on our 2022
Hi. I have a toyota sienna 2022 xle model vehicle. How did you install these simulator plugs? A mechanic removed the seats. I see srs airbag system malfunction error on the screen now. What should I do before installing these plugs?
@@DaGubah501 To clarify, different trims of the 2022 need different dongles. Please refer to the table here: bradshacks.com/product/airbag-simulator/
@@BradsHacks so, what else should be done before plugging in the dongle?
Well done videos and great work around. Toyota should have put in a bypass switch or given this as an option.
Went to order the dongles -- thanks for the heads up on not being compatible for the 2022 models yet. Let us know when that pretensioner fix is in place!!
Apparently couple people say 2021 dongles working for 2022?
What I find interesting is that Toyota is allowing conversion companies to remove the seats with impunity but all consumers will void the warranty if the seats are removed.
I sell toyota ..there's not much one can do to suddenly void the warranty. The only time a malfunctioning part will not be covered is if it can be directly tied to the modification. So if your wheel bearings go out early and you've installed 2" spacers and 37 inch tires ..Likely won't be covered. But if your engine blows I doubt it will be tied to the removal of the captains chairs
What do van conversion companies do to get around this error? (ie wheelchair vans) Do they have a secret solution from Toyota?
And thanks! This seems like an excellent solution. Toyota really should have made those seats removable.
I believe the middle seats with ottoman are available on the AWD Sienna, top 2 model trims at least for the 2022 model. However, if you choose the spare tire option, the middle seats lose the ottoman. Not quite sure why, but the're likely some good reason
Previous mixed comments on the solution working on 2022 models. Please others who have installed Brad's fix comment on your experience.
Some trim levels of 2022 require an additional dongle which I recently released. See details here: bradshacks.com/product/airbag-simulator/
You can usually get the autumn in seats from one of the wheelchair conversion places and put them in there a couple 1000 bucks though
If anyone has had an accident with air bags deployment after the installation of dangles, please let me know.
Did you ever hear back? Why are you asking?
hi - has anyone determined if the other airbags still in vehicle are still going to work if necessary? thanks!
Thanks Brad when I buy my Sienna I will buy your dongle 1 step at a time ✌🏽😅 peace
Ty for your helpful videos and products!
I don't know if it would be helpful for your ottoman project, but I will soon have two unused second row captain's seats from my 2023 awd hybrid sienna (platinum) available in Boston, MA....
Brad you are one smart man.
Great video!
Hi, I put on my hiace 2020. It’s works perfectly, highly recommended
Thank you for the feedback! Which seat did you use it for? Could you please share a photo of the connector(s) coming out of your HiAce's floor to brad@bradshacks.com? I don't have access to a HiAce in the US, so this information would help greatly.
@@BradsHacks I can’t post a picture here bro. Where I can post ?
@@ErwinSusanto-fy8yc please email to brad@bradshacks.com
Been waiting for solutions for this thank you man!
Amazing stuff Brad! Impressive !!
Brought 2, thanks so much. Have not taken the plunge. Has anyone experienced unanticipated problems with the system later on?
How or where do I safely store does cables after removing the seats and plugging emulator?
Btw, thank you so much for the amazing professional work.
This is amazing! Considering getting a Sienna based on this!!!
I have a 2024 Subaru Ascent and want to remove the 2nd row seat, but am running into the same problem. The Subaru dealership told me we couldn't remove the seat as it would disable all the airbags because of the "occupancy detection" in the chair. Do you happen to have these plugs for the Subaru Ascent?
Hi Brad, even after connecting the dongles I'm still seeing the SRS message (and I see the red icon of the airbag as well on the dashboard). I tried to disconnect the battery few times but nothing resets this message. Any suggestions?
Please email me (brad@bradshacks.com) or WhatsApp me (9093482331) with your order number, and we'll figure this out.
Hey there.
I installed one of your seat jumpers as I've only removed the left 2nd row seat. The SRS Airbag system malfunction warning remains on. I've ordered 2, as my final plan is to remove both seats for camping.
Have you found a solution for this, as it was the whole point to buy these plugs...?
@@BradsHacks I've sent you an email. 2021 Sienna Hybrid AWD, left 2nd row removal
@@frgibson any luck yet? My error is still on with a 2nd row set removed and round dongle installed.
Hey bud have you figured out the issue ? Iv installed 2 dongles to my 2022 and still seeing the message.
Great job,Brad
Excellent! Both vids done so well!
So the plug does work, but the new Prius requires a grey plug to also be connected. I’m not sure how to even go about checking for it.
Hi Brad, By removing 2nd row seat and using bypass module will it void manufacturer warranty? And Thanks for the video it's really helpful.
No
You are genius. Couple questions though:
1. Will your invention work on Sienna 2023 XLE?
2. Are 2nd row seats removable for 2023 Sienna.
Thanks Brad.
Yes
I have a yellow notification that there are 2 seats with air bags not active and the red notification that I'm stupid and should check the rear seats for babies.
Is there a way to shut either or both notifications off?
Thank you for video. I have a minivan to carry bikes. I have had two major fails with town and country so I will not buy another. However the con for the Sienna was the second row seats. I understand the process with help from you. But wondering about the rest of airbag system by using your attachment. I understand in your video you say to assume they will NOT work but wondering if you have found out anything more ?
Can someone please answer. Had a lady buy a 24 last week and we removed the captains chairs and want to tell her the right plugs to order. Every time i click the link half the site doesnt load and the drop down table does nothing , both on my phone and laptop. I was assuming 2 round and 2 square but dont want her ordering the wrong thing
Removing front passenger seat? Thank you so much for this video and creating the dongles! I just bought my 2021 Sienna LE and I would like to remove the front passenger seat as well as the 2nd and 3rd rows. Do you know which dongle I would need to fool the sensor on the front seat?
Thanks for this good work Brad. I'm thinking of turning my 2021 Sienna into a camper, so I would be driving for many months and many miles without the 2nd row seats. Your fix definitely eliminates the warning message about the airbags, but are you certain that it restores the function of all the other airbags in the vehicle? Thanks, Mike
Well, it would be hard to test without actually crashing the car. 😳 My guess is that if the airbag system thinks the 2nd row airbags are in place, nothing is wrong and the intact airbags should deploy as designed.
@@lak1294 exactly - so that's why I was making sure before I use your toggle. I've already ordered a couple and plan to do a rv conversion with my '21 Sienna. I have one other question. Have you thought about or played around with reversing the 2nd row seats? Can they be positioned to face backward with the existing brackets? Let me know if you have any thoughts.
@@mikesheridan5005 Hi Mike. The idea of reversing the 2nd row seats is a GREAT question. Have you had any progress towards making this happen?
@@ZenMika No - I was hoping someone smarter than me had already come up with a solution! :)
Just ordered some 2.2 resistors for my 2011 sierra, fingers crossed.
Thanks for doing this!
underrated
Hey Brad, other than your solution on the 2nd row seats and their seat airbag; do you know how we can disable the rear curtain airbag (in the event of an accident and blasting DIY conversion stuff and shelves apart) or you know that will be disabled with the second row removed?
I'm going to remove my 2 middle seats on my 2021 sienna. Love your videos about this. I am completely ignorant about this stuff so I don't know how many of these plugs to order. Is it 1 per seat or 2 per seat? I saw a white and a yellow plug on each seat. If someone knows pleas let me know. I'm trying to get my sienna set up as a Pilot Car. Thanks!
Do you know if the 3rd row seats have an airbag that needs to be dealt with, or can I just remove seats and unplug the wire? Thanks
Hey Brad. Once the seats are removed and the dongles added could I later attach the seats back in place without having to connect the wires back and remove the dongles? I don't want to trigger anything as I will be constantly removing and reattaching the seats.
Yes, but keep in mind your seats will not have airbag functionality if you do this. I'd rather hot-plug the airbags than do this. The airbag connector has a built-in protection mechanism against accidental discharge. The risk of not having airbag is bigger than accidental discharge.
Oh, Good point! Thank you for the quick response.
Great thinking! I hope you are nice to your parents for letting you "play" with their new very expensive Sienna;-)
Brad looking forward to receiving air bag dongle for my 2021 sienna that I ordered today . Toyota dealer could not tell me how to turn off that warning light will let you know how it works when I receive. thanks John
Have you looked into how to disable the automatic shutoff in “Ready” mode, which kicks in after about a hour? Apparently this is something new that Toyota put into all of their 2021 hybrids. Thanks!
I don't see an option to turn this off globally either, but the option on the popup can prevent it on a session-by-session basis.
The hybrid shut-off feature CAN be disabled, per the 2021 Sienna User Manual, Page 234:
"After the vehicle is parked, if the door is locked with the door lock switch (P.135) from the inside or the mechanical key (P.504) from the outside, the automatic hybrid system shut off feature will be disabled. The timer for the automatic hybrid system shut off feature will be re-enabled if the driver’s door is opened."
See pp. 234: s3.amazonaws.com/toyota.site.p01/toyota/manuals/OM08031U/OM08031U.pdf
This means while camping you CAN allow the AC to run overnight while sleeping - without needing to idle the engine all night. According to a thread from another YT video (I can no longer find), when the car is pin Park and the hybrid system shutoff has been disable (hybrid system is ON), if AC is running the hybrid motor will turn on, run for 3 min. to recharge battery, then shut off for 9 min, then repeat that cycle indefinitely while AC runs. Hope that helps!
Hello, I've got a 23 Sienna I have removed the 2nd and 3rd row seats and the rails as well. I was wondering if I would be able to use similar dongles for that?
Brad, great video. Thank you. I’m trying to purchase these on your website. Can you tell me if a 2012 Lexus IS uses the round or legacy version?
Do you still make these. I went to your website but when I choose the option to select it goes to a black error screen. I escort oversize loads across the nation for a living and took out the passenger seat. Would be amazing to have my display back to normal. Thanks
Had to replace a front parking sensor on my 21 sienna (someone backed into it) I have a snap on diagnostic computer but can’t find anyway to calibrate the sensor so parking aid message comes on know anyway around this?
I’ve left a message through email and no response. On the list it doesn’t show a 2013 Toyota. Venza. Can anyone PLEASE tell me what part will 100 percent fit a 2013 Toyota venza
great ...great instructional video!!
I just purchased a 2023 Sienna limited. How many dongles do i need... thanks, Noah
Please refer to the table on this page for the correct dongles for your Sienna: bradshacks.com/product/airbag-simulator/
@@BradsHacks still confused with trying to get a dongle for my Sienna Limited. Is it 32 bucks per pair or per unit . Without taking my seat out, how should I determine what size dongle I need? One would think that it is dictated by the year and maybe the model type i.e,. limited vs. XLS... etc , etc... thanks again for all you do Brad.
Hi, it would work with 2007 lexus gs? Or the better question is which one of the versions would work on the 3rd gs? The same as the ES? Thank you
Great job! I plan to purchase a brand new Sienna recently. Unfortunately I can only get 2022 version. There is no new 2021 on the market. Brad, do you know if 2022 Sienna can use your resistors to get rid of the airbag error? Thanks in advance.
I just tried it in my 2022 and it doesn’t work
@@ericschwartz4747 It is bad news :( But I am really appreciate your sharing.
@@ericschwartz4747 that IS sad news!
@Brad Ling ? Any plans for an updated dongle???
a question for you. can the meddle seat back be fold down 'flat' I tried to see almost all the videos and cannot not see middle seat back flat down
Hi. I have a 2022. The middle seats do not fold down flat. They only recline about as far as an economy airline seat.
Edit: I posted in the comment section of your website again, stating that the amber light I commented about is normal, and is not part of the warning system.
However, I took out my front passenger seat today and plugged in the 3rd dongle purchased from your store. The REAL airbag system malfunction warning is now appearing. I think I may need a new dongle, as this one may be defective? How do I go about that process?
Thank You so mach its does work with my Siena 2023
I removed the 2 row right passenger ottoman seat, it has 3 connectors. I installed the round resistor, but it has the error on the screen. Does your van have three connectors on the 2nd row?
Will this work for a 2023 4 runner? This happened to mine because I took out the front seat.
How do you bypass the airbag message when you have removed the railing from the second row? I did have your dongle’s in before. But the message is back now.
Is this legit? I have a 2014 Sienna I’d love to remove the passenger seats from. The stress of all those warnings on the dash is not what I’m interested in.
Brad, with the 2nd row removed, what are the dimensions of the space? Wanted to be able to inflate an airbed in the back for occasional overnight car camping
Hi Brad, will these work for a 2023 Sienna ? I have the airbag message after removing mid row seats. Thank you
Hi Brad, I disconnected the front passenger seat and put it right back, but still getting the air bag warning signal. any idea how to fix it?
Hello, will this work on a 2022 Tundra? That lights comes on and off and it’s a bit annoying. Toyota dealership has made three different attempts to turn it off but keeps coming back on. Thanks
Brad! I was wondering if I could get your help printing one of these out for a 2007 FJ Cruiser it uses a different housing but the exact same resistor would work. Let me know what you need if it's possible for you to make it for me!
Thanks if you can and still Thanks if not :)
BRAD!! Great stuff, super helpful. Any plans on creating swivel seats in the Sienna? Just picked up a AWD 2021 and want to Swivel seat Driver and/or Passenger front seat. Any advice??
Sorry, I don't have any plans for this.