Why 70% Of People Are BREATHING WRONG & How To FIX IT For Better Health! | James Nestor
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CAUTION: This episode contains mild swearing.
I’m delighted to welcome James Nestor, the brilliant science journalist and author of Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art back to the podcast. James and I first spoke last September on episode 124 • This DAILY BREATHING T... . It was such a popular episode - in fact the UA-cam version is my most-watched show! And I knew there was so much more I wanted to talk about with this inspiring guest, who’s such a wealth of knowledge on the untapped potential of breathwork.
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Been following this advice for eight months now. My sleep is better, my mental state is better, my fitness is better, my health is better. My only regret is i didn’t come across this information earlier in life.
I feel the same way. Wasted sleep and wasted oxygen!!!!
Same here! This information is so essential for quality of life
Thanks
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I love how James changes the Telephone colour in the background on different videos 😂👍. But I am so intrigued with this and have changed my breathing habits completely I can now hold my breath for 2 minutes TWO MINUTES!! That’s insane! I feel lighter (sounds strange) and by brain is less foggy! This will be a LIFE CHANGING simple habit for me and I wish I had listened to this YEARS AGO !!! 👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I was using my inhaler every hour for a very bad respiratory problem. (Like a bad case of asthma). Two months ago I very beligerantly started on a "fake belly laughing protocol" and "fake coughing protocol." It was so fake and I really resented doing it, but I forced myself to do it.
Well, the first time I did it for around 3 or 4 minutes the vibration released a lot of phlegm, and I coughed-up a lot of it. I actually breathed better and forestalled using the inhaler. I repeated the deep belly laughter every15 or 20 minutes! and phlegm came up from the back of my throat (post nasal) and up from my lungs! I spit it into tissue.
I continued doing this protol every 15 minutes all morning as I kept feeling better for awhile and then another spell of shortness of breath would creep in. Well, by the end of the day I had totally substituted fake deep belly laughter and forced fake coughing for the inhaler!!!!
A major miracle!
It's been two months now, and I barely ever have to do the belly laughing or coughing any more and I only use my inhaler occasionally each week! (Mostly after midnight and I feel stuffy but I'm too sleepy and lazy to do the laughing thing.)
It's a miracle!
Of course I religiously drink my tonic (turmeric, ginger, garlic, pepper drink) every morning also.
I sleep through the night now! I have cut down my use of the inhaler by 95%. That's a huge, serious miracle!
By the way, I stopped resenting doing the fake belly laughter thing because it became an automatic reflex after just a few days!
PLEASE try it, you will probably be very impressed with it!!
Just starting to watch this video and want to comment on the discussion about the lip tape. I’ve been doing this for a while with a little piece of paper tape. Just this simple technique has almost eliminated the daily morning migraines I suffered with for years, yes years. Still watching. Fascinated. Grateful. ✨💖✨
I just finished my 3rd round of periodontal surgery (over about 25 years). Never has any dentist or oral surgeon suggested the mouth tape. One dentist made me an appliance that cost $400.00 to stop the snoring. This last incidence of perio ran me $3500.00 plus an extraction. Wondering why they wouldn't tell you how to prevent the need for future treatment? $$. Sad. I've also been treated for HBP for about 25 years. Yet, no one has suggested that mouth breathing could be a problem. $$
I’ve had Rheumatoid arthritis since I was 10 years old and I’m now 45. I’m starting breath work as well as understanding my gut microbiome and and balancing better and I’ve been on the AIP autoimmune protocol Paleo diet. I’m also doing more yoga and getting back into Tai Chi and Chi Gong and I Chaun. Im also going to teach my daughter the breathing techniques.
Good stuff
impressive, You are definetely doing a lot of work and breathing, taking care of yr diet (paleo or carnivore or low carb) has certainly a chance of improving this situation. i know that unasked advice is often not welcome, but after several decades of self improvement and health (mental and physical ) investigation i have come across the books of christiane beerlandt (the key to self liberation) and she has intuitelively been able to put down 1300 dis eases and they all origin as gabor Maté also experienced in his practise from not following our being (when the body says no) and My number one top guide (Peter Crone) tells amazingly. Western medicine is only treating symptoms and not adressing the cause and we can be free and healthy if we escape our prison where we locked ourselves in. Martha Beck is also an excellent author and coach (who suffered depression and several immune diseases for more than a decade(and in her book she puts the quota(integrity is the cure for unhappiness) and her uncurable dis eases all went inexplainably away.)🥰
I have had not one night of insommnia ever since I began taping about 4 months ago. I have been an insommniac since childhood, having been terrified in catholic school and also was an abused child at home. I did not have insommnia during my years of deep meditative practice either. Then I stopped meditating and it came back. Now, at age 76, after listening to Mr. Nestor, I no longer have insommnia. One thing that has been helpful for me is that I found this blue tape that is very gentle. The reccomended white tape is too harsh for my facial skin. Getting it off is difficult because it hurts a lot. It does not tear or damage my skin but it does hurt when removing it. I get the blue stuff at the drugstore. I am so grateful because this has changed my life. I just read an article about insommnia in the NYT this morning by the way and there was not a mention of Nestor’s book “Breath” or the taping technique. I wonder why? It is Sun. 08/22/21. It’s sort of appalling.
Rangan, Great Job of doing 2nd interview with James. He is owesome on Breathing.....
So interesting! I listened to the conversation with the Irish gentleman the other day and my myotapes arrived today! I'm now practicing nasal breathing while exercising
24:30 Unlocking my body's pharmacy? I really like the sound of that!❤ Crohns, Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Depression...🙏🙏🙏
Absolutely fascinating interview. So sad the medical community doesn't understand the incredible benefits of the simple art of breathing.
Thank you so much for this interview - excellent, fascinating content !! Very much appreciated !!
I love this episode! My own sleep and immunity has improved since taping. @Dr Chaterjee, would
Love to hear more from on Sudarshan Kriya and how it’s different from Tumma and Wim Hoff as he had a very therapeutic experience of drowning in sweat after kriya which is fascinating!. Also, please interview Emma Sepalla who has been researching breathwork and author of the happiness track.
Great podcast gents, thoroughly enjoyed it!
I absolutely totally recommend breathwork, been doing It almost a year now, I rarely get stressed anymore, it really helps to live in the present too. I don’t think I could go a day without, it’s been amazing plus the nose breathing I do most of the day. Just the night breathing now, must try the tape as I know I definitely mouth breath at night.
Great wisdom that we need to remember and rediscover - 🙏🦎🍀💚
Great guy and amazing wisdom!!! Changed my life!!! THX
A regular Dr is not an expert in anything. I knew this when I got sick and they said you're fine. I said no I'm not. And i just didn't find the right one back then. It was a moldy house. Then fixing the symptoms was not untill 15 years alter. Finding an expert in a field is a life saver. Thank you James for finding the experts and the masters of a craft. Monks in the snow is enough of a clue to say this is a life style. This is how the ancestors survived and did so well millions of years ago. How did they survive without goretex and n95 masks. I'm way more relaxed nose breathing. Very cool
And by the way in the 60’s I learned the technique of changing the temperature in my hands as a way of reducing stress and relieve migraine headaches - and it used calming breathing technique and visualization. Its great to learn about these arts of bodymind techniques. 💜
Thank you so much for this life saving information James
Thank you so much for this interview. I’m still listening and am just thrilled with the attention to the breath work. I’ve practiced Yoga led by breath work and continue to learn. Love his quote, I’m loosely quoting, Eastern medicine will show you how to live and Western Medicine will keep you from dying. Lastly, love the exploration and open mindedness as well as science based facts that should be respected as you act on changes. Thanks again for providing this excellent information.
Exactly. We’ve focused on the shortcomings of anecdote, but we’ve forgotten about its value. To our detriment.
This is fantastic! Thanks so much for this.
Yesterday morning before getting out of bed I tried one of Wim Hof’s breathing practices. I did it again this morning. Afterwards, my meditation was noticeably smoother.
Ever since I read Jame’s book, I keep noticing this patterns in society. Only few people will care about the wisdom
James' book is fantastic isn't I. Was such a pleasure talking to him on my podcast for the second time!
That’s because wisdom is earned and not just learned. You have live it before you know it.
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I was at a doctor after covid because I couldn't get enough air in, I felt.
NOBODY told me i was breathing into my chest in a quick way 1 sec - 2 sec
After I started with 5.5. - 5.5 sec I feel much better and my pulse is lower.
3 doctors couldn't tell me!!
I have begun using blue tape on my mouth while working around the house and doing my artwork as it assist me in slowing down my mind chatter. 💛
Very interesting! As a 37 year old chronic asthmatic my entire life, I’m excited to try these methods.
Will be grabbing a copy of his book as well.
3 months in, has your asthma improved Josh? Mine wasn’t chronic but wow switching to nasal breathing, practising daily breath holds and taping at night (using myotape) had an incredible positive impact on my asthma and anxiety. Far more than any medication / inhalers as I was a chronic mouth breather. Best wishes
I no longer need my inhaler. I can manage my asthma attacks by doing box breathing through my nose. inhale slowly for 4secs, hold it it in for 4secs. Exhale slowly for 4secs, hold it it in for 4secs.
23:13 23:25 Wonderful...gives me hope! Thank you!
Excellent podcast. I have just subscribed. Hx
Scoliosis also could be TMS (mindbody syndrome). Read the books by dr. Sarno (healing backpain) and Steve Ozanich (The great pain deception).
Thanks Doctor x
I cannot sit by the computer to hear for 2 hours. I need to move about. Such an important interview but why not loud enough
get some bluetooth earphones… you can get inexpensive ones on amazon from earfun and other brands. I listen while cleaning the kitchen - doing artwork etc.
I listen using UA-cam app on phone , and yes, headphones especially wireless Bluetooth ones, great!
But also I go to settings, and reduce resolution to 144p, to save on data, and increase speed to 1.25x at least, except this is so good I'll listen to it AGAIN! while doing dishes , chores, ect
Like while
*driving ( discreetly with ONE Bluetooth earbud)
Just a few days ago I woke up and was struggling to breathe. It’s been about a week now and I’ve been to the emergency room twice only for them to tell me it anxiety. I’ve never had this issue before and it really making me panic when I can’t catch my breath. I’m hoping these techniques will help put me back to normal nothing is scarier than feeing like your suffocating while doing a normal daily activity.
This is amazing. So impressed with you guys. Thank you!
Learned a lot from breath. Thank You!! Also, the ads volume are much louder than the copy. Is it possible to increase copy volume?
Dr. Chatterjee, if you could please share your breathing technique to correct your posture issue or refer where to get information, that would be greatly appreciated. I too am always turned to one side when walking, etc. Thank you for this fantastic information!
i didnt know how to breath until now, thank you I can finnaly breath
Amazing!
12:37 Great Quote !
When I was a young between ten & 13 years old I ran the mile and 2 1/2 mile cross country runs. I could outrun everyone. I attributed it to my breathing and how I used my legs. I would breathe normally and let my legs do the work. Today at 63 I breathe through my nose almost all the time and slowly. Even when walking now I breathe slowly. I started smoking around 14 years old and smoked till I was 47. I believe the reason I don't breathe through my nose when sleeping is because of the damage I did to my throat while smoking.
Loosing a ton of weight and inflamation puffyness for me has helped. I get up earlier because of OMAD. I've been nose breathing lots in the past few weeks, if it helps more i'd be so happy. I've been running and exercising with nose breathing. Very much not used to it. It needs to be trained
I totally agree. I really struggle when I get sinus. I also do Buteko method and Vim's method, 7 x 7s breathing. We should learn this at a younger age. I've been researching about health to improve everything.
Yes, Buteiko method, it's been over 15 years, that I had discovered it, and I am still following it.
We love it 😊
I haven’t been doing these breathing techniques for very long and I CAN DEFINITELY feel the difference, I can breath much easier when I’m running and breath through my nose absolutely no problem at all!! 👏👏 I wish I had been told this sooner!! My teacher at school said “breath through your nose”. But nothing else and it hurt to do that so I didn’t!! Now … I do with ease!
I find this very interesting
plz show d correct way of breathing,, it will b a great help,,love from Bangladesh ❤️
To find an N >1 find something that sounds interesting. Read the comments and decide for your self it it sounds like something to try. These videos are loaded with positive results. They wouldn't comment in general if it didn't help. This is incredible. I can hold breath and do this slow breathing way easier in just a few days.
I was born in January 1961 and was breast fed. Mum said I almost always nearly drowned. Mum had so much milk that the hospital had her breastfeeding all the babies. My favourite baby food was and still is mashed pumpkin, potato and carrot. Made myself a batch today actually. I also loved Farex... Probably because I'd have it with lots of sugar. Anyway, I remember decades ago my dentist telling me that I literally have a big mouth. I have a gap between every tooth. The first podcast I watched about breathing taught me why and I'm being reminded again x
This is life changing, thanks so much for sharing it. Can you explain why intentional breath holding is so beneficial, but the unconscious breath holding that happens during sleep apnea is so damaging? Is it the frequency that makes the difference? Thank you!
It's the stress that is induced from the unconscious things. If you go skydiving vs get scared when a car almost runs you off the road. Any breath holds and slow inhales then hold then breath out slowly. Wim hoff it
Hi Rangan - would you have a link for the SPIRAL BREATHING exercises you do?
I will try the tape.
Excellent interview 👏👏👏I appreciated the explanation on breathing, I applied it and it was easy and practiced further and will expand on it. I repeated it several times and it felt ‘very good’’👍😍
I feel much healthier breathing, though my noses. Mental all so.
I’ve watched several of James Nestor’s interviews. He has a different colored rotary phone in each of his videos!
In the title of your videos, please also include the podcast #. That will make it easy to find the podcast if we need to listen there.
What a beautifull nice voice. I remarked it because it had such a harmonious and unstressed rhythm - very uncommon for many talking on youtube.
But I really would prefer that you began telling what is optimal and skip all the bad habits or at least just mention them briefly in the final comments. 😊❤️
Which one? Both have nices voices I prefer the Doctor Rangan voice.
James Nestor as too strong east american accent...altough he speak like an actor
I only found this information recently. Thank you for it🙏
I started following Dr. James Nestor advice, and I'm starting to feel better just by being aware when I'm breathing through my mouth and correcting that by breathing through my nose.
I've also ordered Dr. James Nestor, book
Breath, The New Science of a Lost Art
I can't wait to receive this book😊
You mentioned a 'spiral breathing' technique. Do you have more info on they please? thanks xx
Comprehensive book on subject: The breathing cure by Patrick McCowen.
The Butenko approach
plz do video on controlling diabetes
Please how I'll be to follow ur technique.
Just want to know easily to breath from nose, for how many seconds, then to hold for , to exhale from nose or mouth with how much seconds..
Its so funny to listen to Rangan and James constantly anticipating... familiar with all kind of knee jerk reactions:D
Interesting comment!
If you have a moment please tell more about Anticipating Behavior.
Beside the amazing information , I also liked the yellow dial up telephone beside the guest , which reminded me of my early childhood !
I noticed that dial up telephone in another James Nestor you tube video.. But it was red not yellow.. May be he have a collection 😁🤔 with several colors.🎊🎉
Could someone please tell me when he explains how to breathe properly in this video ? Thank you?
How do you breath through the nose when you sleep what do you do have to change this pattern.?
How do you activate your diaphragm to expand outwards laterally rather than forward and back?
Thanks for another great episode! I really wanna try the tape trick but I can't get over the fear of choking on it while sleeping...
Try it. It only took me a day or two to get used to it. I only use a one inch wide by one and a half inch long piece right in the middle of the mouth.
I don’t feel right now if I don’t wear it before bed. It really is easy, and doesn’t take long to get used to, at least it didn’t for me.
Good luck!
@@crocodilegrundee4514 Thank you! I'll try it
I'm going to try it , I've tried covering my mouth with my blanket (guess not the same)
You're not going to choke you would wake up and then you just pull the tape off. I was paranoid that I wouldn't be able to breathe through my nose because my nose always feels stuffy I tried it I made sure I blew my nose before I put my tape on I was fine and I've been taping ever since
I have sleep apnea and wake up coughing and choking when I fall asleep, so I hear you on that fear of having mouth taped shut!
What I do is fold the edges of the paper 3M tape square in, so I can pull it off EASILY if I wake up choking. It has REALLY changed my life to do nose breathing, especially that my loud snoring partner is now also mouth taping and training himself to do nose breathing at night, and Now, he's NOT snoring and choking and gasping all night, so I can get some sleep. Miracle!
I love these good people on UA-cam who share genuine wisdom with such brilliance and kindness.
1:19:00 I love
Been really struggling with tightness from stress and work.. has made deep breathing very difficult and sometimes seemingly non possible. 25 min in and what do ya know I’m breathing deeply with no difficulty at all.. seems things are loosening up already!
Some clarifications Please.
To inhale for how much seconds is from nose.
Then about pause between inhale and exhale.
How many seconds while exhaling, and again pause between exhale and inhale. Through mouth or through nose.
Hopefully u'll reply it.
With great deep warm regards jioji ek bajuragh maa 🙏🙏💞❤️🙏💘💗🙏💞🙏
Great, but please main purpose is to know so that can be practiced. All the best, with God's Blessings and His best wishes jioji ek bajuragh maa 🙏💞🙏💘🙏
Can you make some short summary videos again?
Can you check on this, in addition to the symptoms you described, I also lost my incontinence it disappeared in a few days and frequency of going to the restroom was cut in half.
Is this in your findings?
Mine too. I was peeing 5 to 6 times a night. Started taping...now 1 to 2times
WOW. ❤
1:41:00
I have my nose congested, what can I do about it?
Buteyko Breathing book Shut Your Mouth by Patrick McKeown has tips on this.
Also, can be diet - dairy products always have that effect on me. Also soya milk and other processed milks like almond and oat milks, and to some extent sugar ... but it's dairy that's a problem for a lot of people. Some people can tolerate sheep/goat milk better.
But it might be something else for you - stuffy environment, other aspects of diet...just offering some thoughts.
Great, but very sorry to say I'm not able to get ur useful information please. Make it so that layman can understand it. With great deep warm regards jioji 🙏💞❤️🙏💘🙏
What if someone can't breathe through their nose? Congestion? Deviated septum? How do you fix that without surgery?
This is addressed in the book “breathe”. I think in some cases it can help to enlarge the nasal cavity
check the alternative medical systems like ayurveda and homeopathy and see the reasons for sinus/ nose block if its any food intolerance ??
@@monicamalmgren9854 which part of the book? I can't find it
I tried the mouth tape at night but due to suffering with bruxism it made me grind me teeth more :(
I brux too, mentally coaching myself to sleep with tongue pressed to roof of mouth And nose breath, has reduced my bruxing,, and snoring, a lot! Keep trying! The square of mouth tape and practicing pre-sleep focused intent to nose breath helps
I breathe in through the nose and exhale through the mouth.
Any reason why these guests names are not mentioned @dr chatarjee? I often wonder who they are
James Nestor, the brilliant science journalist
Uh oh maybe I need to tie my mouth up to train myself 💞
59:55
"the data we get from clinicians who dealt with thousands of people, is more important and valuable than a controlled study of 20 people"
Is 4 times a minute to little?
Tried telling, texting & all the above to the benefits of proper breathing techniques. It works & something everyone can do & it's free. So why is it in 1ear & out the other.To most Dr.'s included. Is it too easy? Answer well I do breath so why do I need it. I find the ones that listen the most & willing to try are people that are interested in staying healthy. Unfortunate to those who don't care about their health.
It’s their choice.
Volume too low
I wish to know more about erectile tissues inside the nose.
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And your older relative who went from breast to table food.....WERE NOT taken off the breast at 6 mo......
I'm 75.....I nursed w only brief lapses for years....
My children went from the breast to the table. My 6 mo old breast feeding son would sit in his high chair watching me can the produce from the garden.
I cut EVERYTHING coming in from out side into small
Pieces and put little samples on his tray....he drooled and slathered and enjoyed every bite.....one child, the Dr insisted she receive 1 4oz bottle ea day of similac or one of those stupid man made concoctions.....she HATED that stuff.....on her 3rd try, on the 3rd day.....she coughed and spluttered...
Mucus going everywhere
And suddenly stopped breathing....I was 21....I was a red cross swimming instructor-life guard and had had cpr training..I covered her mouth and nose w my mouth....and puffed gently a couple times....
She was all blue when a huge clump of mucus
Hit her inner abdomen w a palpable thump and she cried and screamed vigorously.....I was so done w modern medicine... so done.....and I'm blest to have lived thru every time
I've rubbed elbows w their knowledgable administrations.....🤦🏻♀️
so i was wondering why i am so screwed up my entire life. Here it is. I tried to nose breathe just by willing it. Not possible. takes seconds for going back to mouth breathing.the tape idea caused me to eat that tape. Need more powerful device.
There is advice on this in the Buteyko Breathing introductory book Close Your Mouth (or Shut Your Mouth I think it might be) by Patrick McKeown
This man nose his stuff.!
EUREKA !!! ....so, by science- should "the tape" be mandatory ? ;)
If you can’t breathe throw your nose where from do you breathe?
I tried - I got the tape and used it, but it comes loose. It just doesn't hold. 🤨
Before sticking the tape you have to clean some grease on the skin with some cleaning lotion or a good quality soap.
@@shoghimas4578 It's been a while, so I forget, I may have had lotion on my skin. 🤦♀I know I didn't wash my face specially. thank you! 💖
too many ridiculous ads interrupting
It's too bad that Nestor isn't familiar with the work of Weston A. Price, Sally Fallon Morell, Mary Ruddick, Catherine Shanahan, Bill Schindler, and related thinkers (e.g., advocates of Paleo, Primal, and Carnivore diets).
What is the common factor to breastfeeding and chewing tough foods? A baby breast feeds on fatty breast milk. And tough chewy foods are fatty, gristly, and collagenous meats. These behaviors are associated with a traditional and healthy way of eating.
The specific shared factor is animal fats and, more generally, nutrient-dense animal foods as part of an evolutionary-based diet. This means high intake of fat-soluble vitamins in bioavailable form (D3, K2, A as retinoids, and E complex) that ensure strong bones and well developed bone structure, among much else.
When humans are malnourished, no amount of breastfeeding and chewing can help. That isn't to say those other factors don't play a role, as long as the sufficient nutrients are available. It's the whole package as part of a healthy lifestyle. But no informed person can deny the centrality of nutrition.
Please in portuguese or spanish!🇧🇷
PODES SEGUIR EL VIDEO EN ESPANOL. BUSCA YOU TUBE LEWIS HOWES ESPANOL.
You can watch on you tube, perfect translation of James Nestor video into spanish.
THAT TELEPHONE
Not very loud. Why? I have to sit at the computer to hear. My hearing is excellent
Your computer speakers must be faulty
@@urbanmanc many complaints about this, maybe they fixed it?