Gotta give BSG credit where it's due. It's totally feasible to hear someone running from 91 meters away whilst there are gunfights going on, birds are chirping 140db and there's a gust of wind of atleast 50mph blowing continuously.
It's called audio compression, where the quieter sounds are boosted and the louder sounds are lowered. Like the previous commenter said, real earpro does this, it's realistic. In Tarkov, you can try going into a raid without a headset and you'll notice the difference
I would like to hear the gunshot volume they have while testing it tho, no one is going to have the sound that high. And if they do they are going deaf sooner rather than later.
@@TwiggehTV nah I've tried harder than anything reasonable, Ive tried sound lock, sonar from steelseries, windows loudness ecualizator, several presets of ecualicer apo and tweaking it myself. And while those things are useful, you still have to crack up the volume to hear at these distances. After spending on it so much time, Im certain its either a matter of volume AND hardware. Ive gotten a HD599 headset recently and my sound has improved a lot. That being said, your own hearing is also a factor to consider, Im not sure if its about hearing capabilities, sensitivity, or both. For example if I want to hear ambient sound I have to play at 3x the volume limit I consider safe for me, and while using software help with that, I still have to turn up the volume to 2x of my upper limit. Now with my new headsets and windows loudness ecualization it has improved to the point I can hear about half the numbers of this video, instead of 1/10, which is something.
Two things: 1) thank you for doing this research and making this video! And 2) the fact that this was needed saddens me. The audio in tarkov definitely needs to be updated to be consistent between client and server sides. And headsets need a rework on the insane distance you can hear stuff at 😂
I dont think anything is going to happen to audio in a LONG time if you consider that they are reworking : The armors and rigs, recoil, netcode, the engine itself and ALSO they're rewriting the whole game from scratch. Addding an audio overhaul to that list would be crazy
@@TwiggehTV A man can dream! I agree that it's certainly not high on their priority list, but I'd love to see (and so would most of the community) the audio range shrink a bit and to perhaps give some downsides to wearing ears --- or at a minimum to not make the best ears in the game able to hear stuff at almost TWICE the distance of the cheap ones. But who knows. We'll see where things go. Doesn't make me stop loving Tarkov.
@@pureraven101 Nikita said it in one of their podcasts, and no im not digging through hours to find which one, sry. He said they've been working on rewriting the game from scratch for awhile, so its already underway since probably years past. They're doing that because its easier than trying to iron out their spaghetti code piece by piece.
An important detail, when crouching at minimum speed, sometimes when you slip on small rocks it doesn't make a sound on your end, but it makes a falling sound for other players. This happens a lot when I'm in a group and I hear my brothers slip from 3 inches in height as if they were 10 meters...
@@Der_Thrombozyt seeing as i have been in situations where i could hear myself drop but the guy i was sneaking up on couldn't tells me that you're full of it.
@@attack125 Well..maybe you should consider, that errors in both directions are possible and the one I am talking about can only be observed when playing with a mate. Given your attitude, it is no wonder you couldn't observe that audio bug.
I had no idea the silent ADS from blindfire had been removed! Also had no idea about other people hearing you zeroing your optics. Sir Beef dropping the knowledge bombs yet again!
changing the range your scope is 'zeroed' to means that the center pip is for a different range. e.g. if you're zeroed for 100m, it means if you shoot the bullet should land dead center of your scope at 100m, below past it, and potentially above (but probably not for 100m) before it. if you zero for 500m, you shoot someone 500m it is dead on, etc. Zeroing only works properly for the default ammo type for your gun or those with similar velocities, slower bullets fall sooner and faster bullets later (distance wise)@@crazypanda9325
I recently found out that if you sprint until you are out of stamina and are breathing heavily, then ADS and hold breath it will silence your breathing in first person but not for others. It is still useful to use to shut your PMC up so you can hear better.
you have to wait for your stamina bar to turn blue, then ads then hit alt to hold breath and then your pmc will stop breathing heavily. i believe the sound stops for others as well, though.
@@sadd1995yeah but you stay outta breath until like half full (voice dependant) unless you hold breath once you get that smidge that allows you to hold breath.
This is amazingly useful, thank you Gigabeef! The fact you can hear someone walking from 90m away is crazy, I wish our own PMC sounds were less loud too. You do not sound that loud to yourself when walking, even with heavy boots on gravel or glass.
Honestly, at this rate I feel they should make it so headsets don't actually increase the range you hear people at but just make it significantly easier to hear those footsteps during other loud sound effects. (Gunshots, rain, etc.)
yeah, it's much more often i hear people than see them, even in woods with all the tree line, most thing end up close for me... it should be more a visual target acquisition (no idea how unbalanced that might be though). walking on a paved road shouldn't be even heard above ambient noise (wind, trees rustling) though tarkov is a ghost city (no civilian or animal population). running though should be amplified massively though...
I will say though,these headsets really do amplify audio in a very interesting fashion, I have a pair of m32s and you can stand in a downstairs room in my home, and have someone go upstairs and whisper behind a shut door, and you’ll hear what they are saying.
I've pretty much stopped playing tarkov, maybe I'll return for arena. but I've still been watching all your videos, I think you've got such a great style and really are a huge help to people trying to figure out this wacky game. seeing as you're the analyst for the arena streams I think I'll actually tune in. just wanted to say thanks
Hot Take: Nerf the absolute F out of sound meta in Tarkov. No movement sound can be heard past 40m, all headsets should have the same hearing range as not having a headset and should only stop you from having deafened effect from indoor gunfire and grenades. The way some players are able to use sound is as effective as radar within 80m which is insane
Yeah i didnt know range was up to 90 meters, thats INSANE. Audio has been too strong in tarkov for too long, and nerfing it might make it viable to use buckethelmets again (zsh, maska, altyn etc) because rn sound is too important to skimp on.
Such headsets accualy can boost volume of silient sounds in real life too. So it makes sense for them to improve hearing range, but you are right 80m is insane.
In the woods I've heard people walking easily from 40m away. And all they had was some jogging clothes. If I had some nice headsets and they were wearing a bunch of heavy and bulky stuff it'd be even easier to hear them. In an abandoned/empty building you can hear people from just about anywhere in there as well from the slightest walking. I don't think making Tarkov more unrealistic is the answer here.
you can hear people half way across the map if you have max hearing. headsets shouldn't even work this way.. when you shoot you shouldn't hear anything
@@SpaceRanger187 depending on the headset, they won't cut off all sound. Sordins for example will let sounds below 80-something decibels pass through, while the loud gunshots/explosions will be blocked. Source: I own a pair of Sordins.
How loud are the gun gun shots? So it blocks the gun shots while you would be able to talk to someone next to you and hear them? all at the same time@@hafentoffen2
@@SpaceRanger187 Essentially, they block loud impulse noises while passing through lower decibel sound. in reality they block all noise, but a collection of microphones pass along sound. keep them charged though or you hear nothing.
I thought this would be another "what headset is better" video, but i was pleasantly suprised! Thanks a lot! I'm 1300 hours in and i thought low speed crouching does make sound. I mostly play solo, so there was practially no way for me to realise it does not. Definitely going to use it more often now.
Tarkov is basically unplayable to me almost exclusively because of how terrible(and extremely unrealistic) the audio is. They want a "real" feeling hardcore game, but give everyone super hearing so your only option is to sit in a corner, or get killed by someone else who's in a corner. Edit: you'll hear someone a quarter mile away scratching their ass, while the guy walking up the stairs behind you generates 0 audio.
If you play reserve at all right now, there’s a huge audio problem with the bunker, if you’re up at the helicopter you can hear everything happening at bunker like the office glass wall breaking, grenades, and gunshots like it’s only happening one floor below you.
it should be more visual target identification then sound. its not a stealth shooter. and ambient noise (wind, leaves rustling) would cover up most walking sounds- except at night anyway)
@mnm8818 certain things, like walking on gravel, would certainly be loud in full military gear, boots, etc. But you can't tell me that walking on smooth asphalt or concrete is audible at several hundred feet >.< they apply the generic sounds with no regard for the actual material and what it sounds like irl
I have been telling people why covert movement is one of the strongest skills in the game. This video showcases how audio functions and here is what covert can do, to those noises: (Taken from tarkov wiki) Reduces noise level of footsteps on common surfaces (1.2% per level → -60% at Elite Level) Reduces noise level of footsteps on uncommon surfaces (0.6% per level → -30% at Elite Level) Increases covert movement speed (1% per level → +50% at Elite Level) Reduces noise level of weapons and equipment (1.2% per level → -60% at Elite Level) Elite level: Covert movement becomes equally quiet on all surfaces (-60% total) All of this wonderful, but the most amazing is the speed while moving slowly. How it works is by increasing the limit when you go into the lowest sound range. So if the lowest sound range is 4 dots, by leveling covert, you are increasing it to 5, 6 etc. So you are increasing your speed by being allowed to go higher on the movement speed bar, while making the lower noise. Add in the bonuses for footsteps and you are quite fast and silent. Oh and those sound level minuses? They are global from my understanding. So any sound reductions from those movement should affect normal walking, sprinting etc. Also there is some conversation taken a few years ago where it also lowers the sound of YOUR footsteps in your audio perception. But sadly I cannot confirm this since I haven't prepared any testing for this. (This seems to have been disproven in the comments, please ignore the info on this section, I am leaving it for the context) Also, this math might be wrong, but it was taken a very long time ago, but if you do 423 raids and crouch walk at least 20 meters, you should reach elite level cover movement.
im the guy in the video, oftentimes my covert movement skill doesnt level and im lvl 63 atm and im nowhere close to elite but also stopped lvling it since it seemed buggy for me
@@sadd1995 I'm a stealthy timmy who focuses his entire playstyle on cover movement. I thought it was normal that even if I used slow walking so much, my skill didn't improve. I hope it's not bugged. One question: if I increase the speed and stop before the first wave appears in the audio symbol. In that state I don't make noise or can I hear it?
@@ElDesparasitante It might be bugged. In past wipes, as long as the sound icon in the lower left only had the smaller "sound" section, you would gain exp. I maxed it unintentionally in past wipes, but this wipe I only hit lvl 20 before getting kappa, so they might have nerfed it (intentionally or otherwise)
This is something I had been waiting for in a long time - to this day I was never certain what only I could hear and what the range is others can hear me... Thumbs up
One more thing not including here - rock sounds, sometimes you can walk on rocks that are connected to other rocks and they wont make any noise on your end but will make jumping noise for everyone around when you go over place they merge.
There should be a Ragman quest called "HEAR NO EVIL 🙉 " where you have to kill 10 pmcs {excluding factory} while wearing NO headsets, and upon completion you unlock the ability to buy comtac 4s.
Amazing video, a lot of work went into that and I appreciate it! One thing I’ve noticed is that sometimes whenever you fall off of something that is 3 steps or less you won’t hear it but other people will. It happens to my buddies and I often and it’s something we’ve come to noticed when sneaking. Test it yourself, thanks for the video 👍🏻
Man the amount of things i would like to complain about with tarkovs sound is insane so im not even gonna begin but thank god for this video, been waiting for it.
I am always amazed when you go for the really in-depth testing like in this video Awesome work, as always!! Thanks for the spreadsheet at 2:42 as well I'm sure that you'll be doing something similar for the new armor in the next patch, and I just want to say preemptively o7
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🚶♂️ *Minimum Speed Crouch Movement:* - Crouch walking at minimum speed is completely silent. - Notch up movement by one or two slots increases audibility, but still relatively quiet. - Tested with top-tier and low-end headsets, yielding consistent results. 01:53 🏃 *Walking and Running Noise Levels:* - Walking at regular speed and running are among the loudest sounds in the game. - Audio range is weight-dependent, with overweight characters being more audible. - Detailed audio range comparisons provided for various weight scenarios. 02:46 🤸 *Prone Movement and Bushes:* - Prone movement is generally loud, but spinning in place is silent. - Bushes are relentless and produce consistent volume even at minimum speed crouch. - Spinning prone in bushes can be noisy, affecting stealth. 03:57 🔊 *Falling Sounds on Staircase:* - Falling sounds on the custom skeleton building staircase start after about three steps. - Falling sounds are synchronized between players. - Historical change: PMC's now make external falling sounds, unlike before. 04:27 🔊🔧 *ADS Sound Distance and Factors:* - Ergonomics and weight affect the sound distance of aiming down sights (ADS). - Weight can be influenced by using a mule, affecting the overweight threshold. - Testing with different weapons and scenarios for comprehensive insights. 05:23 🔊 *Zeroing and Scope Magnification Sounds:* - Zeroing makes no sound client-side but is audible to other players. - Same sound effect as changing scope magnification. - Distance testing results provided for both headsets. 06:06 🔇 *Blind Fire ADS Strategy:* - Blind fire to get out of ADS without being heard no longer works. - Despite no audio cue for the player, others can hear the ADS removal sound. - A cautionary note to avoid getting caught out using this strategy. 06:50 🧳🔊 *Inventory Sounds with Weapons:* - Some weapons, like the g28, produce louder inventory sounds than others. - Impact of weapon choice on audibility during inventory use. - Interesting tidbit: No weapon equipped results in silent inventory use. 07:32 😤🌬️ *Breathing and Stamina:* - Breathing sounds don't transmit through helmets with face shields. - Other players can't hear when you go out of breath due to the hold breath mechanic. - Out of breath becomes audible only after prolonged aiming down sights. Made with HARPA AI
This is insane, I never realised the sound distance was so different between headsets. That ADS sound range for Comtac 4's is just crazy, I've never even been able to run a pair.
since we are on this topic what irl headsets are the best for tarkov I feel like streamers seem to always hear way better than i do, now that could be because they are paying better attention than me but they still will hear it while also making their own noise and i never do, plus they also seem to basically know exactly what direction and how far away it came from with such precision that i cannot comprehend
People seem to be using iems of various makes, personally I went from regular budget headphones to noise cancelling sony xm2s that I had which really cut down the fan noise in my room and have helped a lot!
This guy is more well spoken and direct than a lot of people I know with supposedly higher iq’s. You seem like a wonderful young man and I hope you get all the things you’ve ever wanted
This is such an amazing video, thank you. Been playing for years now, but there's been so many changes its tough to keep up. Much appreciated. If you don't mind a bit of feedback, it would be great to hear isolated examples of the audio for each test, just to get a better idea of how audible it is in game. Thanks again, mate. Absolute legend.
Great video love to hear the figures. The only thing i would change is that when the actual tests are happening you block the sound with your voice while you explain the distances. Would be good to know how they sound!
This is incredibly huge! Thank you for making such an informative video that will absolutely change the way people play. Audio right now is life or death in Tarkov.
Tysm for all the analysing you do! Very interesting to know about the walking/crouch/prone sounds in a variety of situations. One thing I'd be interested to know is if going from prone to crouch in a bush makes a louder noise than doing it in the open or if it makes a bush noise.
TIP: If you want to unADS silently, use ALT + B to check your fire mode on the weapon. This will kick you out of your ADS and (I THINK makes no noise to others)…
It's even worse since new wipe, I will hear my own footsteps and rustling around like 5 seconds after I've done it now, bit the game itself isn't lagging just the audio.....which is a new experience in my 32 years of gaming.
Thanks for intel man.....I just started yesterday.....no one told me I don't even get a map 😂 gotta buy them individually....then the maps have 0 identification.....no marks except thw ones you create. It doesn't even show your current location on the map. What a pain in the ass. I actually went in and successfully extracted as PMC after about 10 games of practice and scav runs.
the reason you can hear at 90m is because a max stam player can close a 90m gap in 3 secs. so in reality, you can hear movement from anyone whos within 3-5 seconds of your position. if you reduce the hearing radius youd have to increase the amount of time it would take a player to close the gap or high level players would just be able to appear on top of low perception level players with no audio. especially when you consider the desync which could make the sounds you hear up to a whole second or more late. the sound isnt broken, the game is broken and the sound is the way it is to try to make it less obvious.
I noticed that if you ads while holding your breath for to long it can occasionally break your stamina bar and you will start getting heavy breathing halfway down the leg stamina bar, I don't think other people can hear you but it's still annoying. It doesn't fix itself after awhile though. Maybe I'm missing something but I'm pretty sure it was broken anyway.
slowest crouch moving WILL MAKE BROKEN GLASS SOUNDS WHEN WALKED ON BROKEN GLASS. as of the start of this wipe broken glass is the only audio that makes sound while "bug walking" slowest crouch walk
The only time i had the out of breath breathing noise happen to me was when i was stuck in a ton of bushes with 4 guys watching my position. I was in ads and faked playing dead but started to heavy breathe because going out of ads made a noise. The bushes got mowed that day
5:22 Isn't rather the sound of switching the firing mode ? Love the video btw ! It's the kind of stuff you never know unless it's properly tested like you did.
The ADS absolutely has to change. The fact that the player apparently has wind chimes and dangling keys attached to their guns on a windy day, makes no sense. I like it making noise to some degree, but literally just tilting your head and slightly raising your gun being audible from 50 meters away? The gun is already shouldered, so it's not like there's a ton of motion, it really is just tilting your head and raising it a little.
The acoustic headphones in the game is a real thing used in the military and sounds just like what it sounds like in the game. Unfortunately some spots are broken and the hearing range does need to be adjusted since we aren't playing on a massive open map. Just i think the headphones itself is one of the more realistic parts of game.
You'd be surprised how loud an AK (or a soldier for that matter) can be in real life. It's actual military doctrine to be mindful about things like sling swivels and magazine leeway, and even the uniform. Even twenty meters is not a "safe" distance in this context. And that's without a hearing aid.
Should have tested the heavy breathing mute when ads and hold breath : basically when out of breath, as soon as possible ads and hold breath and it’s gone (at least for the player)
Great video but also now switching from your main scope to a 45 degree reddot also makes a ADS noise.. and without even ADSing switching from scope to sight or to your 50 to 25 also makes noise. Just found out recently
Damn I didn't know about the silent ads-off trick! Sad it no longer works 😂 Another confusing sound is running with a broken/blackened red; your pmc will yell and moan, but the others around you won't hear it!
Gotta give BSG credit where it's due. It's totally feasible to hear someone running from 91 meters away whilst there are gunfights going on, birds are chirping 140db and there's a gust of wind of atleast 50mph blowing continuously.
To be fair it’s with electronic earpro which IRL would actually do this if you’ve ever used higher end ear pro
It's called audio compression, where the quieter sounds are boosted and the louder sounds are lowered. Like the previous commenter said, real earpro does this, it's realistic.
In Tarkov, you can try going into a raid without a headset and you'll notice the difference
You can hear people walk from soooo far away with those headphones
@@gagekellstrom3978okay.... But how does that excuse hearing that without a headset 😂
@@Notmyrealnamenumbers Well, you cant. the distance of 91 meters mentioned is only possible with the BEST headset in the game, comtac 4's
Comtac 4s being absurd aside, the fact that ADSing is audible from so far away is ridiculous
I would like to hear the gunshot volume they have while testing it tho, no one is going to have the sound that high.
And if they do they are going deaf sooner rather than later.
@@Yaponnk some people use audio limiters or compressors to hear low noises without having high noises deafen you tho
@@TwiggehTV nah I've tried harder than anything reasonable, Ive tried sound lock, sonar from steelseries, windows loudness ecualizator, several presets of ecualicer apo and tweaking it myself.
And while those things are useful, you still have to crack up the volume to hear at these distances.
After spending on it so much time, Im certain its either a matter of volume AND hardware.
Ive gotten a HD599 headset recently and my sound has improved a lot.
That being said, your own hearing is also a factor to consider, Im not sure if its about hearing capabilities, sensitivity, or both.
For example if I want to hear ambient sound I have to play at 3x the volume limit I consider safe for me, and while using software help with that, I still have to turn up the volume to 2x of my upper limit.
Now with my new headsets and windows loudness ecualization it has improved to the point I can hear about half the numbers of this video, instead of 1/10, which is something.
I wholeheartedly concur.
With all this information…. I’m extract camping a place that is close range so I can hip fire ALL GAME
Two things: 1) thank you for doing this research and making this video! And 2) the fact that this was needed saddens me. The audio in tarkov definitely needs to be updated to be consistent between client and server sides. And headsets need a rework on the insane distance you can hear stuff at 😂
I dont think anything is going to happen to audio in a LONG time if you consider that they are reworking : The armors and rigs, recoil, netcode, the engine itself and ALSO they're rewriting the whole game from scratch. Addding an audio overhaul to that list would be crazy
@@TwiggehTV A man can dream! I agree that it's certainly not high on their priority list, but I'd love to see (and so would most of the community) the audio range shrink a bit and to perhaps give some downsides to wearing ears --- or at a minimum to not make the best ears in the game able to hear stuff at almost TWICE the distance of the cheap ones. But who knows. We'll see where things go. Doesn't make me stop loving Tarkov.
@@MondayHopscotch oh 100% agree, i hate the OP audio of this game, its just downright stupid how much power comtacs have.
@@TwiggehTV Rewriting the game from scratch? This isn't planned, where did you hear this from? Can you provide a source?
@@pureraven101 Nikita said it in one of their podcasts, and no im not digging through hours to find which one, sry.
He said they've been working on rewriting the game from scratch for awhile, so its already underway since probably years past.
They're doing that because its easier than trying to iron out their spaghetti code piece by piece.
Imagine being heard from half a football field because you looked down a sight
Realism = Achieved
It is literally tilting your head and slightly raising a gun. I get it making maybe a little sound? But even like 10 meters away is ridiculous.
Forces you to learn how to pointfire lol
@@whereammyhomie it makes absolutely no noise even in an iotv 😂
What sort of football field?
An important detail, when crouching at minimum speed, sometimes when you slip on small rocks it doesn't make a sound on your end, but it makes a falling sound for other players. This happens a lot when I'm in a group and I hear my brothers slip from 3 inches in height as if they were 10 meters...
Exactly. There is a height where you do not hear anything but others do. Very annoying.
My brother plays right next to me and it is wild how different our clients can be. Similar pings, but wildly different perspectives most of the time.
@@Der_Thrombozyt
seeing as i have been in situations where i could hear myself drop but the guy i was sneaking up on couldn't tells me that you're full of it.
@@attack125 Well..maybe you should consider, that errors in both directions are possible and the one I am talking about can only be observed when playing with a mate. Given your attitude, it is no wonder you couldn't observe that audio bug.
Spinning while prone in a bush making noise for others but not for you explains SO MUCH. Thank you Mr Beef.
I had no idea the silent ADS from blindfire had been removed! Also had no idea about other people hearing you zeroing your optics. Sir Beef dropping the knowledge bombs yet again!
what does zeroing means?
changing the range your scope is 'zeroed' to means that the center pip is for a different range. e.g. if you're zeroed for 100m, it means if you shoot the bullet should land dead center of your scope at 100m, below past it, and potentially above (but probably not for 100m) before it. if you zero for 500m, you shoot someone 500m it is dead on, etc. Zeroing only works properly for the default ammo type for your gun or those with similar velocities, slower bullets fall sooner and faster bullets later (distance wise)@@crazypanda9325
@@crazypanda9325it's adjusting the scope reticle so you don't have to aim higher when firing at far away players to account for bullet drop
@@crazypanda9325 it's scope setting to compensate bullet drop over distance, use page up/page down to set the distance you're shooting
I recently found out that if you sprint until you are out of stamina and are breathing heavily, then ADS and hold breath it will silence your breathing in first person but not for others. It is still useful to use to shut your PMC up so you can hear better.
you have to wait for your stamina bar to turn blue, then ads then hit alt to hold breath and then your pmc will stop breathing heavily. i believe the sound stops for others as well, though.
When Ur Green stamina is Red u cant hold breath
It does, guy above was wrong. Already had tested this out with friends. @@weltar
@@sadd1995yeah but you stay outta breath until like half full (voice dependant) unless you hold breath once you get that smidge that allows you to hold breath.
@@DunkSkunk thank ill will test, im aware that you are still audible for some time after running and using the whole bar.
This is amazingly useful, thank you Gigabeef! The fact you can hear someone walking from 90m away is crazy, I wish our own PMC sounds were less loud too. You do not sound that loud to yourself when walking, even with heavy boots on gravel or glass.
Honestly, at this rate I feel they should make it so headsets don't actually increase the range you hear people at but just make it significantly easier to hear those footsteps during other loud sound effects. (Gunshots, rain, etc.)
yeah, it's much more often i hear people than see them, even in woods with all the tree line, most thing end up close for me...
it should be more a visual target acquisition (no idea how unbalanced that might be though). walking on a paved road shouldn't be even heard above ambient noise (wind, trees rustling) though tarkov is a ghost city (no civilian or animal population). running though should be amplified massively though...
I will say though,these headsets really do amplify audio in a very interesting fashion, I have a pair of m32s and you can stand in a downstairs room in my home, and have someone go upstairs and whisper behind a shut door, and you’ll hear what they are saying.
@@methodhardie9193 wtf? why you lying beatch
Boy do I have news for you.
@@corruptedpoison1Nah, it was already disproven.
I've pretty much stopped playing tarkov, maybe I'll return for arena. but I've still been watching all your videos, I think you've got such a great style and really are a huge help to people trying to figure out this wacky game. seeing as you're the analyst for the arena streams I think I'll actually tune in. just wanted to say thanks
stopped playing tarkov, started playing cyber grind
come bacckkkk!!!!
Arena is really fun imo
@benbohne5872 arena is insanely fun.
@@LucasImpulse ew lol
Hot Take: Nerf the absolute F out of sound meta in Tarkov. No movement sound can be heard past 40m, all headsets should have the same hearing range as not having a headset and should only stop you from having deafened effect from indoor gunfire and grenades. The way some players are able to use sound is as effective as radar within 80m which is insane
Yeah i didnt know range was up to 90 meters, thats INSANE. Audio has been too strong in tarkov for too long, and nerfing it might make it viable to use buckethelmets again (zsh, maska, altyn etc) because rn sound is too important to skimp on.
Such headsets accualy can boost volume of silient sounds in real life too. So it makes sense for them to improve hearing range, but you are right 80m is insane.
In the woods I've heard people walking easily from 40m away. And all they had was some jogging clothes. If I had some nice headsets and they were wearing a bunch of heavy and bulky stuff it'd be even easier to hear them. In an abandoned/empty building you can hear people from just about anywhere in there as well from the slightest walking. I don't think making Tarkov more unrealistic is the answer here.
hearing people from 40m away ? LOL when i was in 40Km training march with 30~40kg gear. i can't hear sound from that far.
@@rudah90 40m is like two lengths of a volleyball court. Obviously you can hear people at such distance.
this audio stuff is insane, like really you can hear someone ADS from 50 meters away?!?
yes. Edit im level 68 i have max perception its wild. And also i personally believe tac supports are overpowered.
you can hear people half way across the map if you have max hearing. headsets shouldn't even work this way.. when you shoot you shouldn't hear anything
@@SpaceRanger187 depending on the headset, they won't cut off all sound. Sordins for example will let sounds below 80-something decibels pass through, while the loud gunshots/explosions will be blocked. Source: I own a pair of Sordins.
How loud are the gun gun shots? So it blocks the gun shots while you would be able to talk to someone next to you and hear them? all at the same time@@hafentoffen2
@@SpaceRanger187 Essentially, they block loud impulse noises while passing through lower decibel sound. in reality they block all noise, but a collection of microphones pass along sound. keep them charged though or you hear nothing.
I thought this would be another "what headset is better" video, but i was pleasantly suprised! Thanks a lot! I'm 1300 hours in and i thought low speed crouching does make sound. I mostly play solo, so there was practially no way for me to realise it does not. Definitely going to use it more often now.
Tarkov is basically unplayable to me almost exclusively because of how terrible(and extremely unrealistic) the audio is. They want a "real" feeling hardcore game, but give everyone super hearing so your only option is to sit in a corner, or get killed by someone else who's in a corner.
Edit: you'll hear someone a quarter mile away scratching their ass, while the guy walking up the stairs behind you generates 0 audio.
If you play reserve at all right now, there’s a huge audio problem with the bunker, if you’re up at the helicopter you can hear everything happening at bunker like the office glass wall breaking, grenades, and gunshots like it’s only happening one floor below you.
the audio + inertia made camping so op
Cry more, noob. Skill issue.
it should be more visual target identification then sound. its not a stealth shooter. and ambient noise (wind, leaves rustling) would cover up most walking sounds- except at night anyway)
@mnm8818 certain things, like walking on gravel, would certainly be loud in full military gear, boots, etc. But you can't tell me that walking on smooth asphalt or concrete is audible at several hundred feet >.< they apply the generic sounds with no regard for the actual material and what it sounds like irl
Thank you so much for the great video and for the shout out. It means a lot coming from my favorite Tarkov content creator.
I have been telling people why covert movement is one of the strongest skills in the game. This video showcases how audio functions and here is what covert can do, to those noises: (Taken from tarkov wiki)
Reduces noise level of footsteps on common surfaces (1.2% per level → -60% at Elite Level)
Reduces noise level of footsteps on uncommon surfaces (0.6% per level → -30% at Elite Level)
Increases covert movement speed (1% per level → +50% at Elite Level)
Reduces noise level of weapons and equipment (1.2% per level → -60% at Elite Level)
Elite level: Covert movement becomes equally quiet on all surfaces (-60% total)
All of this wonderful, but the most amazing is the speed while moving slowly. How it works is by increasing the limit when you go into the lowest sound range. So if the lowest sound range is 4 dots, by leveling covert, you are increasing it to 5, 6 etc.
So you are increasing your speed by being allowed to go higher on the movement speed bar, while making the lower noise. Add in the bonuses for footsteps and you are quite fast and silent.
Oh and those sound level minuses? They are global from my understanding. So any sound reductions from those movement should affect normal walking, sprinting etc.
Also there is some conversation taken a few years ago where it also lowers the sound of YOUR footsteps in your audio perception. But sadly I cannot confirm this since I haven't prepared any testing for this.
(This seems to have been disproven in the comments, please ignore the info on this section, I am leaving it for the context)
Also, this math might be wrong, but it was taken a very long time ago, but if you do 423 raids and crouch walk at least 20 meters, you should reach elite level cover movement.
im the guy in the video, oftentimes my covert movement skill doesnt level and im lvl 63 atm and im nowhere close to elite but also stopped lvling it since it seemed buggy for me
@@sadd1995 I'm a stealthy timmy who focuses his entire playstyle on cover movement. I thought it was normal that even if I used slow walking so much, my skill didn't improve. I hope it's not bugged. One question: if I increase the speed and stop before the first wave appears in the audio symbol. In that state I don't make noise or can I hear it?
@@ElDesparasitante It might be bugged. In past wipes, as long as the sound icon in the lower left only had the smaller "sound" section, you would gain exp. I maxed it unintentionally in past wipes, but this wipe I only hit lvl 20 before getting kappa, so they might have nerfed it (intentionally or otherwise)
thank you for your answer@@jacuul6735
@@ElDesparasitante yes we tested and giga mentioned in the video that u become louder for every bar u increase even before the speaker Shows waves
This is something I had been waiting for in a long time - to this day I was never certain what only I could hear and what the range is others can hear me... Thumbs up
One more thing not including here - rock sounds, sometimes you can walk on rocks that are connected to other rocks and they wont make any noise on your end but will make jumping noise for everyone around when you go over place they merge.
There should be a Ragman quest called "HEAR NO EVIL 🙉 " where you have to kill 10 pmcs {excluding factory} while wearing NO headsets, and upon completion you unlock the ability to buy comtac 4s.
I guess you would have to make it more than 10 people maybe like 30.
Amazing video, a lot of work went into that and I appreciate it! One thing I’ve noticed is that sometimes whenever you fall off of something that is 3 steps or less you won’t hear it but other people will. It happens to my buddies and I often and it’s something we’ve come to noticed when sneaking. Test it yourself, thanks for the video 👍🏻
So realistic. I remember how many enemies we found on deployment because we heard them aim at 100ft.
Man the amount of things i would like to complain about with tarkovs sound is insane so im not even gonna begin but thank god for this video, been waiting for it.
I am always amazed when you go for the really in-depth testing like in this video
Awesome work, as always!! Thanks for the spreadsheet at 2:42 as well
I'm sure that you'll be doing something similar for the new armor in the next patch, and I just want to say preemptively o7
Shouldering a weapon heard from 30+ meters away is INSANE what is BSG doing?
in the lore the pmcs wear shoes made of tungsten so its actually very realistic for them to be loud
It's always a good day when you upload man, love the calm vibes
Yesssss mate referencing that headset distance spreadsheet from the discord my guyyyyy 😍
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🚶♂️ *Minimum Speed Crouch Movement:*
- Crouch walking at minimum speed is completely silent.
- Notch up movement by one or two slots increases audibility, but still relatively quiet.
- Tested with top-tier and low-end headsets, yielding consistent results.
01:53 🏃 *Walking and Running Noise Levels:*
- Walking at regular speed and running are among the loudest sounds in the game.
- Audio range is weight-dependent, with overweight characters being more audible.
- Detailed audio range comparisons provided for various weight scenarios.
02:46 🤸 *Prone Movement and Bushes:*
- Prone movement is generally loud, but spinning in place is silent.
- Bushes are relentless and produce consistent volume even at minimum speed crouch.
- Spinning prone in bushes can be noisy, affecting stealth.
03:57 🔊 *Falling Sounds on Staircase:*
- Falling sounds on the custom skeleton building staircase start after about three steps.
- Falling sounds are synchronized between players.
- Historical change: PMC's now make external falling sounds, unlike before.
04:27 🔊🔧 *ADS Sound Distance and Factors:*
- Ergonomics and weight affect the sound distance of aiming down sights (ADS).
- Weight can be influenced by using a mule, affecting the overweight threshold.
- Testing with different weapons and scenarios for comprehensive insights.
05:23 🔊 *Zeroing and Scope Magnification Sounds:*
- Zeroing makes no sound client-side but is audible to other players.
- Same sound effect as changing scope magnification.
- Distance testing results provided for both headsets.
06:06 🔇 *Blind Fire ADS Strategy:*
- Blind fire to get out of ADS without being heard no longer works.
- Despite no audio cue for the player, others can hear the ADS removal sound.
- A cautionary note to avoid getting caught out using this strategy.
06:50 🧳🔊 *Inventory Sounds with Weapons:*
- Some weapons, like the g28, produce louder inventory sounds than others.
- Impact of weapon choice on audibility during inventory use.
- Interesting tidbit: No weapon equipped results in silent inventory use.
07:32 😤🌬️ *Breathing and Stamina:*
- Breathing sounds don't transmit through helmets with face shields.
- Other players can't hear when you go out of breath due to the hold breath mechanic.
- Out of breath becomes audible only after prolonged aiming down sights.
Made with HARPA AI
Thank you for this valuable information, I couldnt find a video this detailed anywhere
This is insane, I never realised the sound distance was so different between headsets. That ADS sound range for Comtac 4's is just crazy, I've never even been able to run a pair.
I thought this too! I wonder if it was changed.
I've been trying to find a video covering this topic, I finally found one. Thank you for this
I loved the point where he spoke over half of all the showcases
we need some testing on this with vaulting and snow
you have no idea how helpful this is and how badly i needed this. thank you!
Great, now i'm gonna be even MORE paranoid when I hear a random tarkov sound. Thanks gigabeef 😃👍
Switching between your main scope and reddot (even not while ADS'ed) also makes a sound that is only observable by other players
does this also apply for tac-device toggle?
@@The_W00d tac devices always have made sound...😅😂
and as always it all finishes with "head, eyes"))
Awesome work. Thanks.
Hearing someone walking at 70m😂 hard to hold a conversation shouting at that distance 🤦🏼♂️
you should do an updated video to this now that there is snow and all we hear is crunch lol
since we are on this topic what irl headsets are the best for tarkov I feel like streamers seem to always hear way better than i do, now that could be because they are paying better attention than me but they still will hear it while also making their own noise and i never do, plus they also seem to basically know exactly what direction and how far away it came from with such precision that i cannot comprehend
People seem to be using iems of various makes, personally I went from regular budget headphones to noise cancelling sony xm2s that I had which really cut down the fan noise in my room and have helped a lot!
Another banger. Thanks for all the information you have taught me
Hey thanks for taking the time to do all that testing! Results were eye opening ;D
Hearing someone ADS from 50m away is crazy 😭
This guy is more well spoken and direct than a lot of people I know with supposedly higher iq’s.
You seem like a wonderful young man and I hope you get all the things you’ve ever wanted
Tarkov developers must to see this.
I don't like that some sounds cannot be heard by player itself but can be heard by enemies.
Great video, now redo it accounting for the snow lol
This is such an amazing video, thank you. Been playing for years now, but there's been so many changes its tough to keep up. Much appreciated.
If you don't mind a bit of feedback, it would be great to hear isolated examples of the audio for each test, just to get a better idea of how audible it is in game.
Thanks again, mate. Absolute legend.
amazing video clearly outlines limits for inexperienced players would be good to see someone develop a table
Great video love to hear the figures. The only thing i would change is that when the actual tests are happening you block the sound with your voice while you explain the distances. Would be good to know how they sound!
Lmao 80meters, seems ultra realistic and tactical to me
yea its horrible.... whish they would change that to 100m
Can’t wait for a good game to be made that covers this category
What audio settings do I need to adjust to see other people through walls like everyone else?
This is incredibly huge! Thank you for making such an informative video that will absolutely change the way people play. Audio right now is life or death in Tarkov.
Tysm for all the analysing you do! Very interesting to know about the walking/crouch/prone sounds in a variety of situations. One thing I'd be interested to know is if going from prone to crouch in a bush makes a louder noise than doing it in the open or if it makes a bush noise.
I've been waiting for a video like this for ages, thank you
Your growth has been insane man!!!
It doesn't how quiet you are when 1/2 the people in your lobby can see you through a wall 😂
really great video love your testings
TIP: If you want to unADS silently, use ALT + B to check your fire mode on the weapon. This will kick you out of your ADS and (I THINK makes no noise to others)…
No lie, BSG learning things they didn’t know from Gigabeef too.
The most ridiculous thing about the Comtac 4's, is that range is increased by 15% with the Elite Perception perk.
It's even worse since new wipe, I will hear my own footsteps and rustling around like 5 seconds after I've done it now, bit the game itself isn't lagging just the audio.....which is a new experience in my 32 years of gaming.
Headphones should nullify/normalize the increase in hearing distance you get from leveling up. This would be realistic imo
Your a legend Gigabeef! Appreciate the work you put in, honestly helped me alot.
u should make a vid of all examples one after another w text on what sound would be a great learning aid
I thought the blind fire trick was for overhead blind fire only. Did you test it for overhead as well?
Youre a legend gigabeef thank you my man!
Day 1 of asking for a streets map guide
awesome! ive been waiting for that exact video for month
Dang, I actually thought you could move your camera while prone in the bushes.
thx for the tips xd
SNOW (I am pretty sure) will still make noise when slow crouch walk!
>Hear someone, unencumbered, walking casually, from 71 meters away
W H A T
Thanks for intel man.....I just started yesterday.....no one told me I don't even get a map 😂 gotta buy them individually....then the maps have 0 identification.....no marks except thw ones you create. It doesn't even show your current location on the map. What a pain in the ass. I actually went in and successfully extracted as PMC after about 10 games of practice and scav runs.
Been waiting for this kind of video
the reason you can hear at 90m is because a max stam player can close a 90m gap in 3 secs. so in reality, you can hear movement from anyone whos within 3-5 seconds of your position. if you reduce the hearing radius youd have to increase the amount of time it would take a player to close the gap or high level players would just be able to appear on top of low perception level players with no audio. especially when you consider the desync which could make the sounds you hear up to a whole second or more late. the sound isnt broken, the game is broken and the sound is the way it is to try to make it less obvious.
I noticed that if you ads while holding your breath for to long it can occasionally break your stamina bar and you will start getting heavy breathing halfway down the leg stamina bar, I don't think other people can hear you but it's still annoying. It doesn't fix itself after awhile though. Maybe I'm missing something but I'm pretty sure it was broken anyway.
Jesus Christ the fucking comtac 4s are even more broken than I thought. No wonder people are petrified of movement.
i knew they are broken but not to this extend but it explains why they are more expensiv than a fully build M4
slowest crouch moving WILL MAKE BROKEN GLASS SOUNDS WHEN WALKED ON BROKEN GLASS. as of the start of this wipe broken glass is the only audio that makes sound while "bug walking" slowest crouch walk
The only time i had the out of breath breathing noise happen to me was when i was stuck in a ton of bushes with 4 guys watching my position. I was in ads and faked playing dead but started to heavy breathe because going out of ads made a noise. The bushes got mowed that day
"32 meters audible when aiming down sight" such realism!
i really got to stop running :D Superb video man!
5:22 Isn't rather the sound of switching the firing mode ?
Love the video btw ! It's the kind of stuff you never know unless it's properly tested like you did.
Giga is the best beef!
I believe the silence step when crouch walking at the slowest speed only applies when you’re underweight.
No, your weight doesn’t matter
The headsets also make your footsteps sound so bloody loud. I hate wearing them because i cant hear anyone over myself
The ADS absolutely has to change. The fact that the player apparently has wind chimes and dangling keys attached to their guns on a windy day, makes no sense. I like it making noise to some degree, but literally just tilting your head and slightly raising your gun being audible from 50 meters away? The gun is already shouldered, so it's not like there's a ton of motion, it really is just tilting your head and raising it a little.
The acoustic headphones in the game is a real thing used in the military and sounds just like what it sounds like in the game. Unfortunately some spots are broken and the hearing range does need to be adjusted since we aren't playing on a massive open map. Just i think the headphones itself is one of the more realistic parts of game.
That anyone can hear your ADS, selector switch, etc at any distance greater than, like, 5m is insane to me...
You'd be surprised how loud an AK (or a soldier for that matter) can be in real life. It's actual military doctrine to be mindful about things like sling swivels and magazine leeway, and even the uniform. Even twenty meters is not a "safe" distance in this context. And that's without a hearing aid.
Should have tested the heavy breathing mute when ads and hold breath : basically when out of breath, as soon as possible ads and hold breath and it’s gone (at least for the player)
Great video but also now switching from your main scope to a 45 degree reddot also makes a ADS noise.. and without even ADSing switching from scope to sight or to your 50 to 25 also makes noise. Just found out recently
I'm curious if being overweight while crouched walking minimum speed is still silent? I don't have any mates that play EFT to test this with me.
Always count on Gigabeef!
def should check sounds when inside and outside tho. feel like soemtimes you cant hear anything and others you can.
I knew that comtac 4s are crazy but I never thought that like that.
I rolled my eyes so hard from learning that Com4's hear ADS at 50 meters when the guy is overweight.
I think its amazing you can spin laying down like there are little legs under your stomach lmao
Damn I didn't know about the silent ads-off trick! Sad it no longer works 😂
Another confusing sound is running with a broken/blackened red; your pmc will yell and moan, but the others around you won't hear it!
Yes they will. It was like that a few wipes ago, but it’s not true anymore.
im running astro a50's with dolby atmos and tuned the amp to my personal taste of settings, I CAN HEAR THEM THINK BEFORE THEY DO ANYTHING!
This information should just be available to everyone and given by the devs, assuming they know whats going on inside their own game