Should Cops "Shoot To Incapacitate"?

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  • @poizunman75
    @poizunman75 3 роки тому +439

    Hope you see this comment and highlight, because I'm an EMT about to hit y'all with an anatomy lesson to highlight why shooting thighs and/or abdomen are terrible ideas:
    First, to build on the point of the femoral artery, there is also the femur itself which may potentially break if hit. Now medical staff have two injuries to treat. Further the femoral artery can still be hit by metal fragments (my understanding is that police use hollow points) and now fragments of bone causing the patient to bleed inside the thigh.
    Now for the abdomen, there's still numerous organs and blood vessels in there. For blood vessels, there is the descending aorta (which bifurcation into the femoral ateries) but also the inferior vena cava. Hitting either one will make the patient bleed out internally. But even if those get missed, there are still the organs; best case, you hit a solid organ like the liver or kidneys, which will bleed a lot. But, more likely, you would hit a hollow organ like the intestines or stomach, which will release blood plus whatever was inside into the abdominal cavity where now you have bleeding plus the potential for sepsis.
    Finally, though it's pretty unlikely, there's the possibility that the bullet could hit the spinal column. Will it kill them? No, but they'll be paralyzed from the waist down the rest of their life. So officer safety notwithstanding, you are not (repeat, *NOT*) doing suspects any favors by either still killing them, giving them other life threatening conditions, or permanently crippling them.
    TL;DR this policy is bad and they should feel bad

    • @matteocesa9017
      @matteocesa9017 3 роки тому +37

      Outstanding explaination! As a medicine student can confirm 100%

    • @ferelith-NZ
      @ferelith-NZ 3 роки тому +13

      Yep. I was thinking along the same lines. Plus smaller targets with limb shots = higher risk of getting someone else.

    • @JR-ld1et
      @JR-ld1et 3 роки тому +5

      LMAO, Seriously, none of this bs makes sense 🤣💥🤣💥🤣🤣😂🤣

    • @oldcop18
      @oldcop18 3 роки тому +22

      I was a Navy Corpsman assigned w/the Marines in Viet Nam and treated a few GSWs in the field and you’re absolutely right. This is a stupid policy made by a spineless police chief who hasn’t been a real cop in years, if ever.

    • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
      @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 3 роки тому +22

      @@oldcop18 I would be willing to bet it's the city council that made this decision, not a police chief.
      This would be like making the fire dept use low-flow nozzles because *_Karen_* decided to complain about wasting too much water during a drought. On paper it makes sense. In practice, not so much.

  • @jasonnix8767
    @jasonnix8767 3 роки тому +85

    Bullets do bounce off bones. I seen a guy shot in the leg and bullet exited out his neck and he died. My main concern is hitting a bystander because you missed a flailing arm.

    • @officer401
      @officer401  3 роки тому +24

      BINGO. Thanks for the feedback Jason! I hope you've been doing well. Good to see you on here again, my friend! 👌

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss 3 роки тому +7

      I know a women who was shot in the head and the bullet entered her skull, wraped around the outside of her brain and skated around the inside of her skull, missing her brain and exiting out the back of her skull. She lived and made basically a full recovery. People can even survive gunshots to the head if it hits just right, depending on the round. I know someone who has. Wild.

    • @zagorith14
      @zagorith14 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheAnnoyingBoss My dad went to school with a guy who was shot in the head during a robbery while working. He's still alive with a family to this day.

    • @phillipsmith4814
      @phillipsmith4814 3 роки тому +1

      @@officer401 The solution to this non-problem is so obvious that I’m shocked no one else has thought of it. Stop using lead and gunpowder based weapons entirely and instead issue Nerf guns. The worse that might happen is someone has a minor eye injury. But the way it works is that the officer would fire his Nerf gun, on fully auto, at the threat and the threat would immediately start laughing so hard he would collapse onto the ground and with the tears streaming out of his eyes, he wouldn’t even see when the cop casually walked over and handcuffed him. BRILLIANT! Problem solved. And I developed this technique from the comfort of my nicely cushioned swivel chair in less than 5 minutes. Talk about efficiency! Don’t thank me. I’ll be happy to send you a complete training plan, in PowerPoint for only a small, nominal gratuity of $5,000. In addition the purchase of said training plan entitles you to have me come to your location and present the training in person at a discounted rate of $200 per hour plus per diem and 5 star hotel accommodations. 😜Take care. It’s crazier out there than ever.

    • @Len_M.
      @Len_M. 3 роки тому +1

      @@officer401 The Leg has the Femoral Artery, Arms have the Brachial Artery, both of which will kill you just as dead as a Center Mass Shot (but will just put the Officer at more risk of shooting something/someone they didn’t intend.) Never mind in an average Police Shooting there are well above just one Shot as well! They must figure these Officers are going to be Snipers with their Pistols that aren’t even equipped with a Shoulder Stocks.
      Edit: I see you mentioned the Femoral Artery.

  • @yoyoglock4
    @yoyoglock4 3 роки тому +165

    Why anyone would want to be a LEO in this current political climate is beyond me. Thank you to all those that do, and stay safe out there.

    • @CinimodNorton
      @CinimodNorton 3 роки тому +8

      Seems to be going that way with the Military as well. I got out in 2012 mostly because the direction it was heading then.

    • @GGGG-lz8sl
      @GGGG-lz8sl 3 роки тому +8

      Schedule, money, benefits, work load, retirement.

    • @christopherlucas548
      @christopherlucas548 3 роки тому +3

      I would love to be but I can not pass the physical cause of my heart condition

    • @cadengrossman7960
      @cadengrossman7960 3 роки тому +5

      As a kid I always wanted to be a police officer but I’ve given up on that cause it just isn’t worth it

    • @jcrowley8088
      @jcrowley8088 3 роки тому +15

      It's tough but if anything the current climate has motivated me more to go out and become an LEO and show everyone how good people are!

  • @OmegaTou
    @OmegaTou 3 роки тому +30

    Georgia looked at police shootouts, and decided there were not enough stray bullets hitting innocent bystanders. They are acting to correct that oversight.

  • @snakesocks
    @snakesocks 3 роки тому +88

    I'm sure a 250lbs dude who's on meth will totally be stopped by a 9mm to the bicep.

    • @officer401
      @officer401  3 роки тому +22

      🤣

    • @TRG30168
      @TRG30168 3 роки тому +18

      The only meth heads ive fought are 90lbs and their tensile and physical strength outweighs me, a 250 lb meth addict is borderline super human id imagine.

    • @trappercreekd8622
      @trappercreekd8622 3 роки тому +2

      JuSt TaZe ThEm

  • @TheRyelandfamily
    @TheRyelandfamily 3 роки тому +128

    Don’t ever apologize for being a good husband or father!! I love your videos! If making them better means we get less that’s perfect!

    • @officer401
      @officer401  3 роки тому +30

      Thank you for the kind words!

  • @dylansmith1738
    @dylansmith1738 3 роки тому +169

    good to see you back lol. I think the admin staff is just kissing the media and public's asses to avoid being in the spotlight when something goes wrong.

    • @officer401
      @officer401  3 роки тому +74

      Oh....oh...this comment is perfect and couldn't be more correct, believe me.

    • @CENTRALCHAOS21
      @CENTRALCHAOS21 3 роки тому +7

      yes this always happens if something bad happens so their image wont be ruined some times police dept's dont care about its people that much

    • @spencergrace1679
      @spencergrace1679 3 роки тому +3

      There still are people who are involved in this career. I just graduated my academy and there is 15 other people who I know are passionate for it as well!

    • @johnpatti4391
      @johnpatti4391 3 роки тому +2

      This kind of thing happens a lot in corporate settings and is as we would call it in the military "CYA" on their parts. They can now say "we told them" and wash their hands of responsibility. Good intentions aside be prepared to be thrown under the bus. It all sounds good on paper but ignores the realities of the situation.

    • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
      @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 3 роки тому

      @@johnpatti4391 CYA?? Cuddle Your Aardvark?
      Just about every business, especially public utilities and govt entities, should adhere to the philosophy of, Cover Your Ass. In this sue happy world we live in they would be crazy not to. I worked for my cities water dept and know far too well the peril of not doing so. Someone has to be the fall guy when something goes wrong.

  • @JulioCesar-zl2ud
    @JulioCesar-zl2ud 3 роки тому +21

    Been involved in an OIS, couple of the shots hit the guy in the leg. He continued running with a gun in hand...
    You dont shoot to kill, you shoot to stop the threat.

  • @michaelegotti6439
    @michaelegotti6439 3 роки тому +186

    Last time I was this early officer401 was still running thru the projects catching bad guys and still getting write ups lol

    • @SteeringWheelHolder1
      @SteeringWheelHolder1 3 роки тому +16

      401's come a long way from using car doors to stop fleeing suspects 😜😜

    • @Reach41
      @Reach41 3 роки тому +2

      I still remember when he was promoted to Officer26.

    • @Masterchief0397
      @Masterchief0397 3 роки тому +5

      @@SteeringWheelHolder1 I remember those videos. Used to watch that shit on the bus coming from highschool. Now I am a rookie in the project 🤣

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss 3 роки тому +1

      @@SteeringWheelHolder1 and how humbled we are for our brotha. I remember watching him when his channel was brand new. How time flies

  • @greumachhackett9616
    @greumachhackett9616 3 роки тому +62

    2 quotes come to mind.
    1st is from John at active self protection “you are responsible for every round that leaves your muzzle”
    2nd is from Mel Gibson in his movie the patriot when he’s preparing his sons to ambush the English “shoot small - miss small”
    Aiming for someone’s arm is a recipe for disaster

    • @brushemteeth9159
      @brushemteeth9159 3 роки тому +1

      If you shoot BEFORE the knife-wielding suspect charges at you, you don't lose time and have a good chance to incapacitate. Leg shots work, if used timely and correctly.

    • @paulenabaker4008
      @paulenabaker4008 3 роки тому +1

      Most of the officer involved shootings in Phoenix (like 95% of them) involve gun wielding suspects that are hyped up on meth. I feel like that might not help the situation. I'm just a delivery driver though so have no idea xD

    • @greumachhackett9616
      @greumachhackett9616 3 роки тому

      @Fishy Tree Probably should’ve reread that before posting, shoot small doesn’t even make sense lol 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @sirsatire7802
      @sirsatire7802 3 роки тому

      @@brushemteeth9159 legs also house one of the largest main arteries that we as humans possess, and bullets dont just do a in and out expecially with human bones,muscle and sinew in the way for them to deflect, either way shooting for a shoulder and get them to a hospital is one of the best bets, if they also have a gun and you have done steps 1 to 10 and they still have no desire to calm down or lower the weapon, shoot without discrimination, for you have no idea if your adversary is as inclined to be a gentleman

    • @cosmichef75
      @cosmichef75 3 роки тому +1

      I love ASP

  • @saulgoodman2018
    @saulgoodman2018 3 роки тому +53

    I like to see all politicians go on a ride along at night for 1 shift, in the inner city. And in gang territory.

    • @inspiredwoodworks4131
      @inspiredwoodworks4131 3 роки тому +10

      ... with these amendments:
      1. They go WITHOUT their own bodyguards.
      2. They DO NOT get to wear any body armor.
      3. Once every hour, they have to leave the patrol car & interact with the “public”.
      The way I figure it, these appeasing politicians will be exterminated before the second hour begins.

  • @smoke_eater_
    @smoke_eater_ 3 роки тому +5

    As an EMT, this is absolutely ridiculous that they are doing this. I hope they don’t bing this to where I live, if so, the officers will be more worried about getting sued and loosing their job, then saving themselves and fellow officers. I know that they are willing to do anything regardless to save themselves and fellow officers. Stay safe brother.

  • @jaxd109
    @jaxd109 3 роки тому +11

    “Shoot him in the leg”
    Femoral artery: “Am I a joke to you?”

  • @streetnic1665
    @streetnic1665 3 роки тому +16

    Another great non biased video. Every day Admin makes police work dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. I'm going to academy in the fall and can't wait to join this great calling. Your voice is speaking truth in a desperate time for Law Enforcement. Much Respect for your Courage.

  • @timtpw67
    @timtpw67 3 роки тому +25

    Well said 👏. Politics are the new deadly police procedure without input or consideration from the police community. This is the scary new norm which could push "Good Officers in a new line of work", leaving depts depleted.

    • @Eugenepanels
      @Eugenepanels 3 роки тому +1

      Think this is their agenda take away peoples first most capable defense.

    • @brushemteeth9159
      @brushemteeth9159 3 роки тому

      If you shoot BEFORE the knife-wielding suspect charges at you, you don't lose time and have a good chance to incapacitate. Leg shots work, if used timely and correctly.

    • @josephsteaphens474
      @josephsteaphens474 3 роки тому +1

      @@brushemteeth9159 Unless you can read someone's mind you have no idea what they are going to do. 🤔🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @jsealejandro06
      @jsealejandro06 3 роки тому +1

      @@brushemteeth9159 And you hit an artery in the leg and oops, they die.

    • @brushemteeth9159
      @brushemteeth9159 3 роки тому

      @@jsealejandro06 Only if you shoot the thigh and not the lower leg or knee which are almost safe to shoot. Also, even a thigh artery hit, that is still far less likely to happen than when you go for a torso shot that is almost always lethal. Lastly, you can effectively stop leg artery bleeding with a tourniquet on scene while torso shots need surgery to stop internal bleeding. Leg shots work.

  • @mainmanstrider3239
    @mainmanstrider3239 3 роки тому +8

    So happy to see you upload. Always makes me anxious when a officer goes silent...

  • @mikedunn330
    @mikedunn330 3 роки тому +26

    Snipers are actually taught to shoot center Mass for the same reason, it's the one part that doesn't move. Also, in reference to the femoral artery comment you made, when someone is shot in their gut there is a saying that goes, when the blood turns black grab a body bag from the back. It can be a very slow and inhumane way to die. I, in no way endorse deadly shooting, but if left with no choice then the obvious solution is the quickest and most efficient one. I too, and glad to see you back, and totally agree with what you're saying!

    • @officer401
      @officer401  3 роки тому +8

      Thanks for the feedback Mike!

    • @billw623
      @billw623 3 роки тому +1

      @@officer401 the cops should just shoot them in the head an be done with it

    • @tenchraven
      @tenchraven 3 роки тому +1

      @@billw623 It is a very small object, and the useful part is smaller. Imagine half a cinder block, just one cavity, with a walnut in there. Yes, I'm describing mammals that are genetically human. Center mass works

    • @billw623
      @billw623 3 роки тому

      @@tenchraven so does a shot to the mammals head would drop the animal
      stop them cold in there tracks

    • @billw623
      @billw623 3 роки тому

      @@tenchraven well if you get a hole in the blader or an gut that will up spead up the mammals death for sure when tme mammal causes one to suffer lost they need a so long painful death

  • @halcyonzenith4411
    @halcyonzenith4411 3 роки тому +6

    Has anyone considered the old "hey look over there" followed by slapping the weapon out of their hand, in a heroic and cinemagenic manner. Steven Seagal could probably produce the training DVD.

  • @scoobydoo2644
    @scoobydoo2644 3 роки тому +11

    Yes the king is back!!!!
    Edit: this new policy is dumb and will cost lives.This policy is as dumb as the Army taking away shark attacks a pt tests from basic training.

  • @dontarguewithidiots7459
    @dontarguewithidiots7459 Рік тому

    BRAVO!! Brilliantly stated Officer 401. Your points are clear, sharp, and make a lot of sense. God BLESS you and other officers out there.

  • @sebastianwilson8899
    @sebastianwilson8899 3 роки тому +47

    You always hear “can’t they sit in the leg?” But if they get hit in the femoral artery they bleed out real quick Anyway right?

    • @rmp5s
      @rmp5s 3 роки тому +13

      Deadly force is deadly force. Face or foot, 1 shot or 10...shoot until the threat stops.

    • @PRJay777
      @PRJay777 3 роки тому +1

      I was just going to bring up the femoral artery being in the pelvic and leg area as well. Lol. Bleed out in minutes.

    • @davidboyd7773
      @davidboyd7773 3 роки тому +4

      Yes the femoral artery is in the hips, legs and, lower abdomen. Yes shooting it has a high chance of killing them anyway.

    • @babyboynoluv66
      @babyboynoluv66 3 роки тому +5

      @Alan d'Eon you can get shot in the leg and have it ricochet throughout the inside of your body. Had a call for a child who got struck in a drive by with entrance wound in the leg and upper internal bleeding due to the bullet bouncing inside her

    • @davidboyd7773
      @davidboyd7773 3 роки тому +13

      @Alan d'Eon if you are a cop and your forced to shoot someone to stop the threat posed to yourself or others. Do you really think that your gonna run up to that person really quick to put on a tourniquet when your not sure if they really are still a threat? Most cops are gonna wait for backup so they have some form of self protection.

  • @kristinreynolds577
    @kristinreynolds577 3 роки тому

    Why is it not policy for police chiefs and their administration not have to still work the streets?? I worked in the airline industry and some one of our chiefs still had to work. They had to prove that they could still do their job, so they worked every three months. I know it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s better than someone never working again after being elected! Great to see back making videos!!! Much love from Oklahoma! 💗💗💗

  • @mac-gyver1152
    @mac-gyver1152 3 роки тому +17

    I've been handled firearms for my entire life, and it's no joke when you say it's a skill you have to work on.

    • @Eugenepanels
      @Eugenepanels 3 роки тому +1

      Yepp, A wanna be cop here went to the range the other day boy I need a lot of training i was missing close shots lol

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 3 роки тому

      @@Eugenepanels honestly shooting firearms needs to be a regular practice/ordeal for people. Mainly because if you do have to shoot for the love of all holy don't miss. Practice literally makes perfect.

  • @Mateoski97
    @Mateoski97 3 роки тому +1

    I own a shotgun and every time I'm at the range, I'm always told to aim center mass because anywhere else other than center mass or the head poses a risk to other people at the range and to the equipment as well.
    If an average citizen gets this, why is this such a problem?

  • @johnv.8474
    @johnv.8474 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you 401! Stay safe.

  • @mgallager1449
    @mgallager1449 3 роки тому

    As former reserve police officer, Retired Firefighter and NRA Pistol Instructor, NRA Rifle Instructor and NRA Range Safety Officer. It was grilled into my brain when I went through training in Law Enforcement. YOU ARE SHOOTING TO STOP THE THREAT!

  • @chrishawkins32014
    @chrishawkins32014 3 роки тому +7

    Heeeeyyyyy….. ur back!! I found u thru Donut Operator! Love all y’all do and stay safe out there. God bless u.

  • @annacher8100
    @annacher8100 2 роки тому

    I'm very thankful that you made this video. It really did open up my understanding and outlook. Thank you. I don't have such a negative outlook concerning this now. I have a much deeper understanding.

  • @enriqueo15
    @enriqueo15 3 роки тому +4

    I just look up your channel yesterday to see if I missed anything glad I haven’t!

  • @melissaharmon3808
    @melissaharmon3808 3 роки тому

    I DON'T WORK IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, so I probably don't know much... but I agree with you, officer401. Your safety & safety of people in your communities SHOULD BE on TOP of the list! I'm a STRONG SUPPORTER of LE. Praying for all of you and I have your six.

  • @XInoAricinNilo
    @XInoAricinNilo 3 роки тому +7

    Yessss finnallllllly!!!!! I need more of this beautiful half Asian half Hispanic beauty in my life!

  • @The10CodeMindset
    @The10CodeMindset 3 роки тому

    It's just what you said it is, a ridiculous new standard. You and I probably started the same year, and wow the job and times have changed so much since then!

  • @ramonsmediablog
    @ramonsmediablog 3 роки тому +3

    “Shot to kill is more like it” 🙌 The actual phrase used is shoot to stop the threat.

  • @MightyMitch20
    @MightyMitch20 3 роки тому +1

    So I have an Uncle who's a retired NSA agent. He's also a expert marksman with pistols. Even he doesn't have the confidence to hit an arm or leg. He (and i) has the opinion "if you don't have the confidence and skill to hit your target with every round in your magazine, don't take the shot."

  • @Veritas1992
    @Veritas1992 3 роки тому +13

    I can’t wait until the general public learns the femoral artery exists and a shot to the leg still can result in a fatality.

    • @brushemteeth9159
      @brushemteeth9159 3 роки тому +1

      That only applies to the thigh, not the lower leg. And the femoral artery takes up a tiny part of the thigh only. I'd prefer being shot in thigh more than anywhere in the torso.

    • @l5mtf393
      @l5mtf393 3 роки тому +4

      @@brushemteeth9159 the problem is that people have no idea what they are talking about. Simple truth is- if you aim for abdomen/legs, you will not hit shit, and endanger your life. This is why it's so facepalmingly stupid. Deadly forse is deadly force. You shoot, center mass, until the threat is stopped.

    • @Jejdjejbfjf
      @Jejdjejbfjf 3 роки тому +2

      A leg injury is often still less fatal than a wound to the chest where most of your vital organs reside. The femoral artery is but one part of the leg. It's not rocket science.

    • @Froz0nPh0enix
      @Froz0nPh0enix 3 роки тому

      @@Jejdjejbfjf not true at all, leg wounds drain blood extremely quickly, especially if hit in multiple spots. As a surgical technologist who specializes in trauma, being shot in the leg has A LOT of negatives, the femoral artery isn’t the only major vascular part of the leg/ thigh. It also doesn’t take much common sense to know a leg shot isn’t going to take a threat out. Which means you’re going to have more bullet wounds, more bleeding, and makes it quicker to just bleed out especially since cops only carry one tourniquet makes it very obvious that you’ll just have more shots fired, more GSW, and a higher death rate. So good luck with that.

    • @Jejdjejbfjf
      @Jejdjejbfjf 3 роки тому

      @@Froz0nPh0enix yeah as we have established getting shot anywhere in your body literally has many negatives, it goes without saying that it includes the legs. So there is no need to attempt to dispute or prove that as you have attempted to do.
      But I'm sure anyone with common sense would rather get shot in the leg than shot in the upper body which would likely puncture the heart, lungs or brain, literally the vital organs which upon failure could result in instantaneous death.
      The number of shots is besides the point and outside your expertise if any. Cops fire multiple shots for various reasons in the heat of the moment. Just watch those live police cam videos where multiple cops surround a suspect and simultaneously send a barrage of bullets into the body within a few seconds following a perceived threat. If they're gonna shoot multiple times anyway, obviously shoot in the legs/extremities to reduce what would inevitably be great injury to the suspect.
      Also it is grossly outside your expertise to assume that one shot to the leg wouldnt take a threat out. That largely depends on a gamut of factors including the hostility and pain endurance of the suspect, as well as the type of bullet/gun used. This fatal assumption of yours is what causes LEOs to use inappropriate degrees of force - very dangerous mentality! I'm disappointed that a supposedly professional technologist like yourself would endorse such false assumptions as if they are part of your expertise.
      Btw in where I live, one shot to the extremity is what we are trained to do as well to eliminate a threat, heck even the use of a taser might be sufficient. Idk where you got the info that you gotta shoot multiple times in the legs to be effective. You obviously dont know of the excruciating pain which comes with a bullet wound.

  • @airsoftspeedy
    @airsoftspeedy 3 роки тому

    couldn't have said it better. hats off to you for making this video.

  • @afurryrabbit6104
    @afurryrabbit6104 3 роки тому +5

    glad you're back!

  • @jerimalstrom5673
    @jerimalstrom5673 3 роки тому +2

    Common sense is not so common any more. Thank you for your video. Speaking truth to power

  • @paulenabaker4008
    @paulenabaker4008 3 роки тому +3

    Already seeing a rise in hesitation in the police force and more news articles about fallen officers because of said hesitations. I fear for you and everyone else on the force. You have my prayers 🙏

  • @lenahanden9230
    @lenahanden9230 3 роки тому +3

    Arent the likelyhood with this policy that shootings will increase? The reasoning being that the officer that are less confident in their ability to take down a threat will rather shoot earlier instead of "risking it". An Officer trained with the effective meathod will likely tolerate a higher level of threat before initiating a shooting.

  • @donabarth4236
    @donabarth4236 3 роки тому +2

    Offficer 401 can you do a vid about the psychological test in the hiring process? thanks for all the info and interesting stories you share!!!

    • @ryanburns3921
      @ryanburns3921 3 роки тому +1

      He's done them in the past. Look through his vids from a couple years ago. He did a whole series about the application/hiring process. But his main advice for the psych part was just be completely honest. They'll ask a bunch of questions in different ways trying to get you to slip. If you think you can fake it, you can't. They've have alot more practice spotting liars than most people have had lying. Lol

  • @seanlane1051
    @seanlane1051 3 роки тому +4

    Did you run this video by your command?
    If not, I can see that "dusty uniform" comment, coming back to bite you in the ass.
    That being said, great points and I love your content.

    • @officer401
      @officer401  3 роки тому +9

      No, I don't run ideas and concepts I create for my private business by command staff of a separate occupation for approval. That's overreach. Thanks for your support, my friend!

  • @carolinacasperc6317
    @carolinacasperc6317 3 роки тому +1

    I self identify as a noob in this subject, but would like to hear more from both sides. Thanks for your input on this....its great food for thought.

  • @russv4753
    @russv4753 3 роки тому +4

    God forbid I ever have to use my firearm I will continue shooting center mass as trained by the state. Also shooting at the legs can make someone bleed out faster than shooting at the center mass or head

  • @jdglock9114
    @jdglock9114 3 роки тому

    NAILED IT !!!! I lived in that area. I am surprised their chief has given in to this notion.
    PS: - Please notice that NOTHING similar to this has been announced by the Troup County Sheriff. Lagrange is in Troup County.

  • @sunshineproductionsyt4954
    @sunshineproductionsyt4954 3 роки тому +4

    I want to be a police 👮‍♀️ officer when i grow up

  • @tugsman5
    @tugsman5 3 роки тому +1

    I love this. I was saying the guys teaching this, and the guy who accepted the push to train a department this way can't be taken seriously as officers. They should have refused or walked off the job.

  • @pandi8109
    @pandi8109 3 роки тому +4

    Appeasement never works, just look at Germany right before WW2. Germany: "I want that country." Britain: "No you can't ha... ok you can have that but no more." aaaand repeat.
    Also 401 could you do a video on the best pranks you pulled on rookies?

  • @jessecowles1595
    @jessecowles1595 3 роки тому +1

    Love the videos ! Much love from the LBC !

  • @lukebancroft5649
    @lukebancroft5649 3 роки тому +21

    I think their chief should be replaced by you. Thanks for the video!

  • @coriolism
    @coriolism 3 роки тому +1

    Hey I just want to say thanks for these videos. You've really helped me develop an interest in law enforcement. I just my passed the oral board, got my letter of conditional employment and, if all goes well, I'll hopefully be in the Academy by September. Thank you.

    • @manz7860
      @manz7860 3 роки тому

      Good luck. Been thinking about going down this route as well. Would love a response back when you get done with the academy.
      God Bless.

  • @bonher69
    @bonher69 3 роки тому +17

    Mike the Cop, “Pretty please...put the gun down, otherwise, I’mma shoot you in the toes!”

  • @2BChaos
    @2BChaos 3 роки тому +1

    I have a question, but to quickly preface - One thing I’ve noticed is that the only shooting cases in the news are the ones that are controversial i.e officers who really weren’t following protocol etc. But what we don’t hear about nearly as often are all the cases where suspects’ behavior warranted a clear and obvious use of deadly force and where officer and civilian lives were in real danger. I know they exist (thanks in part to your other videos) and so my question is what’s your sense of the ratio between the two?
    In other words how often does a genuine need for deadly force by an officer arise on a day-to-day basis? (In Georgia at least, I know probably varies by state) Thanks for all your hard work!

  • @Operator.cag.
    @Operator.cag. 3 роки тому +8

    Why is it when I’m watching law enforcement you post lol

  • @waltherlee6665
    @waltherlee6665 3 роки тому

    Keep em comin, sarge! No worries. Tend to your family. Your viewers will just be here.

  • @faithhilton9854
    @faithhilton9854 3 роки тому +4

    💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
    So glad there's more videos again, I've missed ya😊🥺🇺🇸

  • @ultraspank8479
    @ultraspank8479 3 роки тому

    I’m glad you exist on here. Your so well spoken and excellent at getting your point across. 🤘🏻

  • @brandontarabocchia756
    @brandontarabocchia756 3 роки тому +1

    I heard Minneapolis is trying to remove guns from officers conducting traffic stops. I live in the suburbs of Minneapolis and I avoid Minneapolis like it’s the plague.

  • @frankmckinley1254
    @frankmckinley1254 3 роки тому

    You are so spot on! This pablum of neoleftist thought is tragic.

  • @Tropical_TTV
    @Tropical_TTV 3 роки тому

    401 I hope you see this I recently graduated our patrol academy and before I went I was nervous as hell but your video on what to know about the academy before you go really helped me understand what I needed to do to get through it all . Some of the best memories in the past 6 months

    • @LadyLibertyBella
      @LadyLibertyBella 3 роки тому

      Congratulations & thank you for serving. Please be safe.

  • @taylorcoley6329
    @taylorcoley6329 3 роки тому +2

    What’s happening to Georgia?? Went blue this election and now this garbage?? GA trying to be a California junior. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @adrianstroud4745
    @adrianstroud4745 Рік тому

    I grew up in Lagrange. Now going thru the Columbus Georgia academy for the city of west point. This is a Lagrange specific teaching and no other agency in the country does this.

  • @Blueliftify
    @Blueliftify 3 роки тому

    Once again a great video with elaborate backround info

  • @donmcmaine9213
    @donmcmaine9213 3 роки тому

    Paul Harrel just did a video similar to this, testing out whether it was plausible for cops to shoot a knife out of someone's hand.

  • @mattstone6989
    @mattstone6989 3 роки тому +1

    Lagrange Ga is like 30 minutes from me.. crazy to hear this

  • @kdoge1387
    @kdoge1387 3 роки тому +2

    Keep up the great work 401. 1BadFed is proud

  • @Bloo57999
    @Bloo57999 3 роки тому

    Many reports of serial store robbers in Georgia with stilts and leg casts.
    Three limbs and your out.
    Teens in Georgia reported to be breaking their arms and legs to look cool to classmates.

  • @gregorxxx9325
    @gregorxxx9325 3 роки тому +1

    My only real issue with law enforcement is how often I see police escalating a situation instead of using common sense deesculation

  • @ocifer2649
    @ocifer2649 3 роки тому

    LaGrange is inviting agencies to attend the training. A friend of mine is a GA Lieutenant who attended it. It seems like it's going to open up officer to additional legal liability. Why not see if your agency will allow you to attend their training and explanation and give us a follow-up video. I'd love to hear you perspective after attending it.

  • @LilithRingmaster
    @LilithRingmaster 3 роки тому

    The extremities. What are we on tv?? That's not how that works. That's not how any of that works

  • @stevenmartines8872
    @stevenmartines8872 3 роки тому +2

    I agree with shooting to stop the threat. That being said, if deadly force isn’t as far as you want to go it sounds like the firearm is not the correct choice of tool in that instance.

  • @user-pd1nm3dn1c
    @user-pd1nm3dn1c 3 роки тому

    Very well stated Officer401. Although officers need to be held accountable for their actions, we need to allow them to actually do the job they signed up for which is to keep the public safe!

  • @jamycrowder1211
    @jamycrowder1211 3 роки тому +1

    First notification I've got for a officer 401 video in a long time! But as always your spot on!

  • @nikolai3620
    @nikolai3620 3 роки тому

    Nothing but good common sense from your channel, Officer401. I admire you for sticking to your guns instead of bending over backward in this socio-political climate like so many people and departments are doing.

  • @MusicManSabastian
    @MusicManSabastian 3 роки тому

    It’s like a circle... but a freaky circle

  • @chrismcarthur2609
    @chrismcarthur2609 3 роки тому +1

    I swear, people have NO common sense, sounds to me like that PD is not smart and wants a lawsuit on their ass

  • @susanmatthews5901
    @susanmatthews5901 3 роки тому +1

    Any person making these insane policies needs to demonstrate how this can be done successfully with a 99% or greater accuracy rate while shooting at a moving target. No shooting range demonstration where my 10 year old can hit any part of the target designated!

  • @ThatEEguy2818
    @ThatEEguy2818 3 роки тому

    I'm sorry you have to deal with the effects of so many complete idiots. Thanks for your service.

  • @ReaIHuman
    @ReaIHuman 3 роки тому +1

    We should call this cod training. The only person who'd say shoot them in the legs or arms, would be the same person who's only "experience" with guns is from call of duty.

  • @sergeantpeppers8858
    @sergeantpeppers8858 3 роки тому

    I'm so glad I'm out of all that. I was a firearms instructor for Georgia. I would quit (if I still was working) if I had to be PC. Deadly force isn't just killing someone. It's defined as "DESTRUCTIVE PHYSICAL FORCE causing bodily injury or death."

  • @csokidusi123
    @csokidusi123 3 роки тому

    Hi I'm a customs officer in a small country in middle of Europe. We use this metod at least 10 years but in 10 years we had only a few shootings.

  • @codybailey855
    @codybailey855 3 роки тому

    😂😂😂 That looks like an reversed version of the target we shot in the academy!

  • @keegansmetanko3755
    @keegansmetanko3755 3 роки тому

    Good to see someone with a brain talking about this topic.

  • @bowenxu5222
    @bowenxu5222 3 роки тому +1

    One thing bugs me is that if the situation is “not the most urgent”, shouldn’t they just try to taser the suspect instead?
    Either way I failed to see an intermediate level between taser and “lethal” gun usage.

  • @jons7834
    @jons7834 3 роки тому

    donut operator just uploaded a video where the officer was shot in the extremity (arm) and still was able to get up and return fire. taking out the suspect. kinda interesting timing & how complementary these videos were when put together.

  • @kloganfirst2869
    @kloganfirst2869 2 роки тому

    Officer out of CA. That's a terrifying policy. OIS is almost a career ender as is even if you're justified but now you'll be dragged into court and picked apart for how you shoot under life or death.

  • @vinnyluco6327
    @vinnyluco6327 3 роки тому

    I live in Tulsa Oklahoma and I am glad to say that the Police chief and County Sheriff of Tulsa patrol when they have the chance. There was a shooting in 2020 where a police SGT and officer where shot during a traffic stop and the SGT sadly did not survive the encounter, there was a donation event where people would donate to the family's of the officers. The police chief, Sheriff and Sticks from Live PD were there, I asked the police chief and sheriff if the go on patrol, The police chief Wendell Franklin said "I would rather be a meter maid than a politician" and he is out in field when ever he has the chance. Sheriff Regalado is often busy swearing in corrections officers and doing community events for cherty, he is in the field quite often and even pulled me over once. I highly doubt this will be implemented in Oklahoma due to most of the Oklahoma population and mayors being pro law enforcement here and most of the brass is out in the field with the rank and file.

  • @cmlittle206
    @cmlittle206 3 роки тому +1

    I already passed my written, PAT And Oral board. In the background investigation stage now.😁

  • @ersacommunity7790
    @ersacommunity7790 3 роки тому +2

    It's funny how the people upstairs who haven't worn an actual patrol uniform for 20+ years know so much about what the officers needed. Somehow, even more than the even officers themselves it seems.

  • @sartoriusrock
    @sartoriusrock 3 роки тому +1

    "You know what you signed up for!"
    Yes. And it wasn't a suicide pact.

    • @dontarguewithidiots7459
      @dontarguewithidiots7459 Рік тому

      ABSOLUTELY. Doing good for the world doesn't mean having to sacrifice your own health and safety

  • @fungun5557
    @fungun5557 3 роки тому +1

    Another great video from the demigod himself. Also I've started watching Donut operator because of your mention in the Patty Mayo vid, no regrets XD. Stay safe man

  • @twinkusa13
    @twinkusa13 3 роки тому +1

    First of like to say, you don't need to apologize for not making videos. Number one job of your life is taking care of your family, that sounds like you are doing very well!! Second, I don't totally agree on this new policy. Yes, if one feels their life is at risk, deadly force should not be a 2nd source. But there are many calls where maybe a less of a kill shot could have been done. Can't truly say yes or no, all incidents have their issues and without one being in the officers shoes, don't make a judgement on the situation. Don't rely on the media either, again one will not see or hear all that went done on the specific incident. And 3rd, its has always been said if you only wound a person, its now open for them to sue you. Who wants to go through that Bullshit!
    Anyways, thank you for the video. I love watching your channel. Take care, stay safe, and God Bless!

  • @xMaverickFPS
    @xMaverickFPS 2 роки тому

    ...but have they ever tried just _ASKING_ the criminals to stop?

  • @sierrahixom
    @sierrahixom 3 роки тому

    First off I agree 1 million% with your statement about changing policies,second man don't have to explain family always comes first I'm a father of 2 myself life get busy the real fans understand love the video I wish there was more people like you out there

  • @FireheartSamurai
    @FireheartSamurai 3 роки тому +1

    A lot of people don’t know how firearms & the human anatomy works to. Also I remember stories like Tango Mike Mike, Senior Chief Mike Day, & Officer Timmothy Grammins who’ve been shot at/taken multiple shots & those people survived being shot multiple times. It’s not hard to look at incidents like these & look into things like how firearms/polices officers work.

  • @basicallyflawless
    @basicallyflawless 3 роки тому +2

    Imagine that bad guys are aiming at your head.

    • @basicallyflawless
      @basicallyflawless 3 роки тому

      Btw every police officer in poland needs to aim like this.

  • @jesperstoringgaard8367
    @jesperstoringgaard8367 3 роки тому

    I served rather briefly in the Danish army, and they acturly have seperation between "Lethal force" and "shooting to incapacitate" in the latter of escalation (use of force rulebook).
    "So for instance if someone is running away with a stolen rifle, you don't have reason to beleive they're otherwise armed, and you can safely, and with high chance of sucess do it, shoot for the legs to incapacitate. If not, escalate to lethal force, and shoot center mass. By the way, it's practically impossible to get a hit on a running target's legs at 100 meters *wink* " - The captain who instructed us.

  • @IntentionallyLeftBlank.
    @IntentionallyLeftBlank. 2 роки тому +1

    Not everyone who is incapacitated is dead, but every one that is dead is incapacitated…

  • @usonumabeach300
    @usonumabeach300 3 роки тому

    Paul Harrell did a good presentation on why shooting at extremities is a bad idea.

  • @BigB_YT
    @BigB_YT 3 роки тому

    If the fine print leaves room for officer perception for ending a threat immediately, then does the fact I’m using my gun to save my life not enough perception for me to use it to incapacitate immediately?