Rolex Daytona Rip Off? Seiko Speedtimer Solar SSC813 Review
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Is it too expensive?
Is it Rolex Daytona copycat?
Let's get to the bottom of both these questions and more!
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I got mine yesterday. The all black. I'm madly in love with it. Couldn't believe the quality and aesthetics. Everything is so crisp. The bracelet is killer and so comfortable. I love that the dial isn't cluttered with text. Just the Seiko and Prospex logos. My only small gripes are the depth of the date window, the width of the clasp and that the end links don't exactly look designed for this case, though they do look cool. But those are minor things I can live with. On the whole, it's a fine watch with a unique character that I feel is worth the money. And it is a strap monster!
Pete, this video is a reenactment of me explaining to my wife how my new watch is different from my last new watch. "But look, dear, this chapter ring is a closed track whereas the previous watch had an open track. Very very different!" 😂 Great video. Keep em coming! 👍
That's amazing, and extremely true!
Oh god, the thing we say to our wives, and ourselves, to justify new watches haha. Enjoy your new watch! I bought the gold dial version of this one from Japan since it’s a JDM version
@@edk2221 hay , are ya still happy that you got the gold dial? Everyone seems to want the white one but I’m leaning toward the gold one, and in a few years it could be the one that goes up in value because everyone else has the white one
@@Mark-sd7fc I am 100000% still satisfied that I bought the gold dial. I had a couple chances to get the white at MSRP but passed. Gold, imo is better. But to each their own
@@edk2221 thanks for responding,
it’s appreciated I’ll probably get the gold one soon
Great rundown of all the reasons this isn't a Daytona rip off! Still waiting for mine to come in, but your updates are holding me over. Or making the wait harder, I don't know.
One of the 2 for sure! It's a fantastic watch, I've barely taken it off.
It's a chronograph, I never understood the comparison to the Daytona. It's a beautiful watch. Congratulations brother!
I think it's a case of most B&W, three-dial, sporty chronographs looking similar, at a glance. It's the details that set them apart, and the Seiko Speedtimer obviously has a different enough design from the Daytona. You do a good job of pointing out the differences. I do appreciate the nickname "Seitona, though. Any little jab at the Rolex crowd is OK in my book. 😁
The Daytona wasn't a wholly original design when it was released, and so many three-dial sports chronos could be dubbed a Daytona homage. If you love it, job's a good 'un!.
daytonas a rip off and these days you are likely to get murdered or seriously injured for it
@@megane230f1 Well, the complete unavailability of the Daytona renders that point pretty moot, but I see what you mean! I wonder if the Pagani Daytona mecaquartz would be a better budget option than this Seiko, for $80?
@@simonbailey2151 I have had the PD version for about a year. Like many PDs, the bracelet isn't great and I swapped it out right away and I like the watch quite a bit.
This is a beauty, that intro had me 😂 keep up the great work brother ❤️
I tried to have some fun with this one!
Once in a while A watch nut comes across a watch that occupies his thoughts and he can’t sleep at night until he gets one, like my seiko baby tuna, or my Seiko SPB187 and the flight master SNA411 and NOW this SSC813 it’s a vicious cycle and there’s only one way to get over it 😀 I’m a new subscriber and I’m glad to have found your channel thanks for this review
Oh I know the feeling! Glad you found the channel, great to have you aboard!
@@ChillinwitWatches I got my SSC813 a week ago and it nice to finally get a full night of sleep , man this watch is even better in person!! Love it!!
@@Mark-sd7fc Grats!!! Super nice aren't they!!!
@@ChillinwitWatches this is the first time I’ve worn the same watch 3 or 4 days in a row in years!
Thank you very much for this video. I found this watch less than 1 hour ago in a spanish shop and had to search for it immediately. I think that will be a nice gift for myself for christmas....
1st time to ever watch your video Bro.. Very good job! I was seeking reviews of the SSC813 coz I have it preordered already at my dealer. Thanks for the info. Now I can't wait to get mine. Enjoy it and wear it in great health!
Sweet, glad you found me, now sub up yo! Jk. It's a killer watch, you're going to love it.
Невероятно красивые часы! Если учитывать их стоимость, то это просто бомба! А главное, что они наконец-то сделали хорошую и удобную застёжку! Не то что раньше у них была на многих моделях!
Всем привет из России! 👋
If its not great for the price why people payed the price?
What makes the watch (perfect) is that it souts your hand and you love it.
You answered your own question! If it suits your wrist and you love it, you pay what it costs.
Nice review. Of all these new Speedtimer's it seems this one is the star. Though I prefer automatics, I don't have a solar in the collection, and this watch would be a good addition. The only design-related question I have is why is the date window not evenly positioned between the 4 and 5 o'clock indices?
Yea, I would have preferred they just left the date off the dial altogether.
I rather buy this vs the swatch Omega watch that I bought and returned that cost $260. and much more online bc of the limited stock.
This is such a beautiful watch and nice size watch.
I hear that! The moonswatch is a let down in person.
Great video Pete. I'm happy whenever I see a new one. I had never heard of the Douglas until now. I got some researching to do, like when you wore the orange Doxa. ✌️
Check out wolbrook (they make Douglas) for sure, fantastic watches!
Love your take on this. Totally agree how it's miles different from a Daytona.
I got the black version of the Speedtimer Solar and I LOVE IT! Great review, right on point!
That black is sexy af!
When someone thinks of Rolex, that's how it is. I see a beautiful Seiko. And solar makes it twice as interesting for me.
But yall hate on invicta watches because it looks like a rolex
@@davidgarza995 I have a Pro Diver 8926. Wanted to know what you can get for so little money. The watch is okay, but only after buying it I found out what problems this watch has with water resistance. Will be my only Invicta. And the Seiko in the video is certainly of a different quality than Invicta.
I love mine too. Could not get the bracelet to fit, but it looks good on a Nato (I have Zulu Octo-whatever).
I love it, Pete. What a great looking Seiko. Well done as always!
Thanks my man!
Good job on the details of the Seiko, I still think why the need of include date on some watches, like this one
I agree, the date was one of the things I forgot to talk about! It's not great. The cool power reserve on the 6:00 sub dial was the other.
@@ChillinwitWatches yes! saw that in the unboxing, that was cool.
Wow... 🤩🤩🤩 I haven't see this before! Many thanks for this great review!! 🏄🏻♂️🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Great review, another home run from Seiko
Great video.
What material is the bezel?
I think it's anodized steel
It’s a lovely watch I love to own… but yes it looks like a daytona at first look, it’s the first watch that will pop in your head when you see this watch because it looks like it.
Hey Pete how you liking the wolbrook? I really like the big eye look, like on the longines. I watched your video on the wolbrook and do you think it is still worth getting now that you have had some time with the watch? Thanks
Yeah totally worth getting, it's a different more vintage look to me, I think they can live side by side.
Or wait, are you doing the nitpick dance thing to justify your not buying it? I can appreciate that!
7:50 when you think this watch can't be any better... here is a bright blue lume
The black is killer!
Currently wearing mine while watching this review. Love the size for my small 7 and quarter inch wrist
That's not that small.
I like it I am also cheap so maybe it will go on sale somewhere? Sbpy119 seiko spirit smart is my only experience with a Seiko chronograph. For sub $300 you get solar, sapphire and a comfortable but nasty folded link bracelet.
Looks like a Citizen 8110 Bullhead sort of, looks like a lot of others and so on. It's not a rip off.
Good video...San Martin has just released their version of this...offering a white or black dial. If I were to choose I'd go with SM just given Seiko's QC issues...
Oh yea, those are homages of the new Tudor Chrono, very cool looking! There's no chapter ring or Bezel on this Seiko to be misaligned at least!!!
@@ChillinwitWatches exactly! I saw this Seiko on their website not long ago and it said coming soon. Pretty cool you got your hands on one...Seiko says they are working on the QC...If their prices continue to rise they need to, but this watch looks great...
That Seiko is sick AF! Gawd! Awesome.
it suits your wrist so well... it looks kinda top heavy, a bit tall... but question about the bezel - is it pvd/paint or is it some ceramic coating on it? in a long run i think that would be the first thing that takes the day-to-day beating, especially with cut slope shape...
I'm interested in this watch but how did people get it so soon? All online retailers I checked show "pre-order". Has it been officially released?
It was available directly from seiko online a couple weeks ago, but sold out right away
I've got the sb031. It's pretty similar and I think it was 120 bucks. And it has the meca quartz. This new one is pretty cool but it's not 5 times cooler than the one I already have.
I have that one too and I have wondered why it receives so little attention.
My wife isn’t happy with you………
You’ve made me buy another watch….
Retail minus 15%. Absolutely love it as a Seiko and Rolex fanboy.
ATB ❤️🇦🇺😎
Great review. Is the bezel ceramic or aluminium?
Anodized steel!
Damn your title for this video...got me in the first half 🙄. Great video and watch!
Now I know it worked on at least one person!!! Lol
Daytona rip off my arse! Lovely watch in it's own right. Well done Seiko, well done review Pete
Regards from England 👍🏴
Great video. Got one reserved and really looking forward to it. Looks awesome in the wrist shots.
It's killer, you'll love it
@@ChillinwitWatches You're right - it's a stunner.
It’s nice but I still think the Pagani Design homage looks better
Lol! Awesome
The green Pagani looks great and Rolex didn't ever make one in green. I can't reach for the Seiko at the moment (just bought a Yema) but I could do the Pagani.
Hey Pete, from your experience modding, do you think its possible to remove the bezel and replace with a rotating countdown timer?
No, my guess is it's just pressure fit.
I watched the entire video hoping to see the chrono second hand moving. Not to be found except during the lume shot where is is not easy to tell the type of sweep. You also did not mention the action of the chrono pushers.
Yea I did a kinda crappy job from a review perspective. There's some things I wanted to convert that I didn't. I'll do another video on operation! Thanks for watching tho!!!
@@ChillinwitWatches I really like your content. Thanks and sorry for being critical.
Dec 2021 - these are sold out and going for over $800 on fleabay
It is a beautiful watch. Seiko watches are really getting expensive but still I would buy this . The only sieko I have left now is my Sarb035. I think I will keep it .
Is a beautiful watch but Solar gave me a lot of problem before, fully automatic will be better.
Oh, what sort of problems? I always think of solar quartz as super care free.
I'm more of an automatic watch guy, but I just love this one! Just found one to purchase, whew, not easy!
im expecting mine to arrive next year Januaryish. gonna get it from a Seiko dealer with 30% off discount. think im gonna get more than 2. resell prices for these are rising
I just received mine on 11 Nov 2021. I love it so much.
My man, it's nothing better than your relaxing watch review at the end of the day! Thanks from Ukraine 👋
You're the best, appreciate it!!!
Tell us more about that Strat.
Beautiful watch except for the disastrous bracelet. And why solar?? Why not a mecca quartz movement that everyone understands? No recharging etc etc.
Cracking video. Thanks for your insights.
I thought the chronograph function is meca quartz because it ticks 5 times per second. Is that incorrect?
Not in this case, regular quartz chronos can run multiple ticks per second. The giveaway here is the lack of flyback reset.
@@ChillinwitWatches Ah ok. Interesting. Thanks for commenting. I can’t wait to get my gold dial JDM version
the chronograph hand does not line up with the index! and this is not the first time I see it in reviews
Is it me the chronograph hand is not centred on the 12 marker
So that hand is completely adjustable when the crown is pulled so that you can get it perfectly centered. If it was off in the video it was from me playing with it. It's perfect now.
I'd like to see this one side by side with a Bulova Lunar Pilot. I have a 7.25 inch wrist too, and the way my Lunar Pilot wears, I don't see 5.5 mm difference in width (and 6.6 mm difference lug to lug), compared to this Seiko on you. The Lunar Pilot has the tachymeter ring under the crystal, the dial is all black, the case is quite rounded off, and also the lugs drop away very quickly. Maybe those all make it wear smaller. (Both have 20 mm lugs and both are the same thickness.)
Is the bezel on the Seiko ceramic???
I think it's steel, either anodized steel or ceramic, both are awesome
Love this review and I'm getting that watch 🙂
Not pointing fingers, but these comparisons with Daytona as a homage or something seem so superficial. What Daytona has to be so special except for a normal style and utterly weird price tag?
is the second hand not aligned to the 12 though? Yikes
Nah it's perfect. Also you know that hand is infinitely adjustable to get it perfectly centered, right?
If people feel it is too homage-y than they can try out a Dan Henry or Undone.
Does that bezel move clock wise and counter clock wise?
The dial looks like a 1969 Zenith EL Primero, smaller black dot at 6 O Clock.
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I got the speed timer auto ltd edition. From what I observe of this watch (swiss fit and finish, everything in house, column wheel, etc for under 3k) I imagine that the "Seitona" is an even bigger bang for buck if you're into that sort of thing
Where did you purchase?
Direct from Seiko website
The mocking dorky voiced "spec sheet checklist" in the intro was a nice touch--suppose that it isn't always important--better to throw one's money away on "awesomeness" (cue mocking dorky voice) at least once, right?
The neck beard voice was taken so I needed something different, lol.
@@ChillinwitWatches I immediately thought of the Amish, but I guess that's not what you meant. Who took the neck beard voice?
@@jayeyesacks1604 ohhh Kaz from two broke watch snobs is famous for his neckbeard voice. I wasn't going for anything specific, just me, but more dumb? Lol
@@ChillinwitWatches Gotcha-not totally familiar with Kaz, but likely will stay away from that. Cheers, and great content btw--keep up the good work!
Hey man, great review!! It's a winner!!!
The scammers grabbed them all up and now selling for twice the retail
I’ll be happy to take it off your hands for what you paid…lol
Great review and thanks for sharing! Now I want it more :)
the top button doesn't click when pushed, is it ok?
Mine doesn’t click neither, there is a little click but not as definite as the lower button.
Of course its not a Daytona rip off. Thats just silly. At this point Seiko has pretty much done all designs there is. But IF you would compare I think an older referense like the 6263 Daytona is more suitable. Last but not least watches get hype way too easy these days and often for the wrong reason.
All solid points!
As I anticipated, the secondary market is already heating up on this piece. There's currently 1 US seller asking $1600, (and don't forget to add the $10 for shipping)--completely bonkers
That's asking. Ain't nobody gonna pay it. Just picked one up from an AD for $530...
This should be called "the Newman Seiko"
Why on earth didn't they make the 119, or have another model, that is a reverse Panda?
A reverse would have been awesome
@@ChillinwitWatches Solar panels on sub dials cannot be white in color
@@DANYELETTO I guess I just assume the dial could be solar instead of the subs
if u wanna homage to daytona , maybe ok to get this but there are other chronographs by seiko who can function better with a hour chronograph subdial and not just like this with 24 hour indicator (not really for time measurement) but just to tell PM or AM . alot of chronographs also cannot measure more than 1 hour , which render them practically useless after 30mins or 60mins. some rolex homages are also rip offs and not really functional as chronographs. the subdial for minutes dont even have individual minute markings! but 5 min interval markings.!
All good points! That said, I doubt I'll ever use the chronograph function as anything other than a toy!
Even if they did steal from Rolex Daytona so what at least there not trying to push it as a Daytona I'd be happy to drop $600 on a watch I'd could wear asap instead of waiting for that call to come and we both know it's gonna be a llllllooooonnnnngggggggg wait
If ever! Great point!
@@ChillinwitWatches lol yeah. what your take on homage watches
@@watchsixto here nor there, I don't often buy them, but I have, I've built them a few times. Don't think there's any in the collection ATM, unless of course you count the ssc813!!!
@@ChillinwitWatches thanks for replying back and no I would count the ssc318 as one
I saw this in person earlier, as a Seiko fan and a Rolex owner, this speed timer is for me an easy pass. Not because it’s looks like a homage watch but because it’s too thick for a 39mm case size. I’ll stick with my spb149 with for me the best modern seiko watch made.
Are the links with screws? Or pushpins?
Push
Dude that seconds hand on the 12 is wayyy off
If its a Daytona ripoff then that can be said for a lot of chronographs
Very true
at 20k+, the Seiko is the ripoff?
LOLOL
Doesn't look much like the Daytona.
Vostok is amazing. It is known
It is known
Far too much Daytona talk and not enough about the Seiko. It’s like 4% of the price of the unobtainable and amazing value.
Why so thick for a quartz?
This is in no way a Daytona homage or replica. They’re nothing alike. Sounds like the Rolex fanboys need to justify the existence of the overpriced status symbol that is a Daytona. This Seiko is worth every penny of the price having a good solar quartz movement, good bracelet and clasp and finally a sapphire crystal. Can’t wait to get my filthy hands on one of these….
Definitely drunk.
Dude. The Seiko case is a ripoff of the Oyster case. The idea is the same.
It's Def a Daytona homage. If we rip smaller companies and what not..have to call out everyone...it's Def an homage
No matter what anyone thinks ,...its a daytona ripoff.period.looks nice but anyone buying this is wishing for a rolex if they are honest with themselves.
Let's face it. Just another Daytona look alike. Meh...