@@superpinbang694 that’s if you are just buying for fake ego or acting like you have money! There are perfectly good functioning watches for less then $30us, just buy that if it’s just for function. Or get a smart watch still cheaper than a Rolex with more functions. The Watches here are an investment and appreciation of craftsmanship! With a knock-off, you are paying literally for the name and not the actual craftsmanship and function that made the name!
As a machinist and toolmaker, I can testify that even the small defects you find on some of these watches are still amazingly close to perfect, machining especially by hand such small parts is extremely difficult and the defects are what gives the watches personality and are hand made to very close to perfection. I assume most of the very small parts are made by wire edm using a .006 wire.
I have done jobs on satellite transmitter parts with .002" wire (human hair is .003"). Basically, to go in and chase openings in parts that were originally cut with .006" wire to reduce the corner radii. You have no idea what a complete PITA it is to work with.
incredible price point? is $10K for a spring drive with a nice dial worth it? you can get other luxury watches with actual complications for that price point no?
@@jaydunna2645Grand Seiko Spring Drive makes Swiss watches look basic and aged in comparison. If you’re not such a sheep that the “Swiss” branding turns you into a zombie, then it’s very easy to appreciate the value.
@@Psyopcyclops the irony of a Grand Seiko fan calling someone a sheep 😶. My favourite watches are German, but that's cool, i understand why you would want a spring drive with 0 complications for upwards of 5k.
My dad worked on watches as a repairman back in the '60's. Fascinating seeing such workmanship so close. I have his Self Winding Bulova watch from 1956. Still works.
As an artist, and as someone who apricates functional art such as high-end watches, I love how you guys made what would typically be a less than stimulating discussion into one that is quite entertaining while maintaining informative integrity.
Luxury goods is about brand recognition, and they are mostly bought by people who want to flaunt their wealth. Details like this don't concern them unless it makes them look less "prestigious".
@@sepg5084 in part maybe. But not the majority. In everyday life virtually nobody notices your watch so it's rather useless to "flaunt one's wealth". In certain circles, like the local country club, golf club, yacht club, etc., maybe.
It really is amazing how fine the quality is at a surface level, but when that quality goes beyond what you can ever see with the naked eye, then you know it's something special. I'm impressed with the GS.
GS is a *real* masterwork. It's only looked down on by snobs because it has electronics in it. Rolex on the other hand makes a million watches a year.. almost as many as the Casio G-Shock in its heyday.
@@andreashabeck1155 I can't afford one so I'll admit I don't know if this describes the *whole* product line, but the humbly named Spring Drive uses a quartz-calibrated "magnetic brake" on a caliber that runs faster than normal by design. The extra energy of the balance wheel is turned into electricity and burned in just the right amount to keep the watch accurate. I can get why a "purist" might consider this cheating in a sense. I have heard it compared to a "cheap quartz watch," and maybe that's why they don't use the Q-word too loudly. But IMO it is *the* most advanced and artistic timepiece. Rolex IMO showcases aesthetic traits like laser engraving and superlative finishing/polishing, but inside it's still largely the same watch they made in the 50s. Seiko were not content to stop there. Again, I have more human concerns vying for my money so this is just my perspective as an engineer and builder of (much larger) machines. If I was flush with money and wanted to make a statement, I feel like the GS better exemplifies the spirit of innovation and technical restlessness that moves us forward, and the Rolex is like any other watch. But the Milgauss is also a beautiful piece of engineering for all the same reasons, don't get me wrong.
I haven't had a watch for over a decade, since my phone tells the date and time. I don't miss the watch tan 😄 sometimes it just feels cooler wearing a watch. Like wearing a suit or nice shoes. It gives you a boost in confidence.
@@NJ0711 1. My Tag is an automatic 2 we talking only partly about the movement 3. Still not much less luxury than Grand Seiko, especially for people who aren't into watches
@@danielhopkins2277 1. Don't care 2. Don't care 3. Don't care Tag Heuer doesn't come close to Grand Seiko in terms of finishing, movement and accuracy.
How about looking at some famous vintage watches and their movements? Would be interesting to see what the old manufacturing produced under high magnification.
Vintage watches have up to 50 years of wear-n-tear that will be pronounced under high magnification. Manufacturing processes have evolved over time. You don't really own a watch for time reading purposes, you own a mechanical watch because it's a work of art.
@@arashmalekzadeh1 frankly, yes I do. I believe that there should not be a lot of rationality behind your watch purchases. The heart wants what it wants
What annoys me is that they took the worst brand of Switzerland They should have taken a Patek Phillipe, a Audemars Piguet, H. Moser & Co or Jacob & Co or any other better brand than Rolex Rolex used to do good things, but they don't anymore
When you take into account the prices, the Grand Seiko was the best. This video shows how over rated Rolex is. A very interesting video thanks. Just subscribed.
Man anything with a premium price is over priced. Same goes for Grand Seiko. Just look at how many 100 if not 1000's % value increase they give this crap.
After being a watch enthusiast for a few years, watching this video convinced me to buy my first Grand Seiko (SBGA429.) I'm truly loving this new GS, and very quickly becoming a GS fanboy. ;-)
Oh yes. When you're bying one of these watches you're buying a piece of art. If you just want to know what time and date it is, you could just buy a Casio F91 for less than $20. It's probably more accurate than any of these watches, and you don't have to worry about winding it either. But, of course, it wouldn't be the same.
@@HGSolberg Ahh yes...I constantly tell myself this too. It's more of functional art really. Yes it is a tool but...ya know... a fancy tool. Since Casio does great watches with shock and water resistance that rivals all the big brands.
The Lange is of course insane, but the most striking thing is the higher quality of the GS next to the Rolex. There's really no contest in that price range.
My favorite GS detail is that they polish the underside of the hands to the same level as the other sides, so when you look under a microscope like this you can see the bottom of the minute and second hands reflected in the hour hand.
I highly recommend. I get some of the most sincere compliments on my GS/seikos, and I have gifted seiko 5 divers to many friends to get their collections started
@@rajgill7576. Unfortunately you will never be able to sell a Seiko for more or even the same price you payed for, unlike Rolex that will increase in price . Also, I believe that if if you’d displayed 100 watches of both brands on a table, giving to anyone passing by the watch of hi choice, the first Seiko will go after the last Rolex is picked.
You guys took us on a journey that wouldn’t normally be possible…thank you! I love all three watches. If money was not a concern, that Lange would be on my wrist right now. Then the Grand Seiko. The Rolex is used & we therefor should give it more of a pass on the micro-review. What a fascinating visual adventure! Keep doing segments like this guys. Besides the intriguing magnification tour, this approach also gives us a much more detailed look of the dial, hand details, & of some mind-blowing movements! Bravo!
Would be interesting to see how affordable watches like orient or lower price Seiko compare to this luxury watches in term of finishing and to see if this amount of money is worth it
As watchmaker I have split feelings with microskping like that. Because some customer are disappointed when they see some little faults and brands could come into struggle selling or producing their pieces. But would customer pay 10x more of the actual price if companys would check their watches like that?! Remember the watchmaker check their finishing work with 3x to 10x loupe while playing with light on the workbench not with 200x on the screen! On the other hand I feel like there are too many luxury watches on the market. That magnification thing could help to decrease the quantity and increase the quality. But still a intresting video. I wonder how a watch from the "godfather of finish" would look like under this microscope ;)
Same here. I do watch repair. So much of the things people go crazy over annoy the crap out of me. And all by people who don't see a watch at the level you and I do. Gets annoying.
Rolex upcharges their watches by absurd amounts. With their billions of dollars surely they can afford many such microscopes for quality assurance department.
Would love to see a Vacheron Constantin under the scope. It would be awesome if you could do the Holy Trinity ---VC, PP and AP That Grand Seiko is just incredible period. It hits way above it's weight money wise. Not really fair for the Rolex being it is a used watch. The finish shows much better under the crystal
@@bdegrds Buying a watch as an investment, especially a STEEL watch, is the dumbest thing ever. And a Grand Seiko is cheaper then a Rolex, but also far superior visually and mechanically. So flushing down money the toilet, is buying a Rolex because it’s a Rolex, instead of something you truly enjoy.
The A.Lange & Söhne is an example of layered experience and engineering that highlights the beauty of invention and experience over centuries. Amazing video.
Very cool video! Results were as expected but now I'm even more surprised by GS than I was before! maybe someday... Also I like the vibe between you two, really entertaining to watch and I'm definitely down for part 3!
We didn't even see the finishing of the A. Lange because they only showed 50x of the dial. They then show the GS and Rolex at 200x to show the minute imperfections. How about showing the hand of the A. Lange and indices at 200x then we'll even see how good the GS really is for the price.
@@pkpnyt4711 look at the date wheel too on the Lange. The # 1 on it is poorly painted and the polishing on all he surfaces barely comes clpse to the near perfection of the GS dial and Zaratsu polishing.
I must say that my respect for A. Lange & Söhne has grown considerably. It seems to be a brand beyond Rolex. I already own Nomos, a German brand from the same town as A. Lange & Söhne. If the German quality in Nomos is anything to go by, then A. Lange & Söhne must be exceptional.
Pretty much every brand is beyond Rolex, the Apple of watches. Shit quality and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced. Rolexes are $1000 watches at most!
You two would make a great comedy duo. It's a reverse of the usual pattern where the main guy is the straight man and the sidekick/guest is the zany one.
Front dial of the Lange & Söhne with the depth it has and the movement shadowed underneath is just insane. I would probably want to wear something like the Grand Seiko with it's equal precision.. but wow that Lange & Söhne...
Holy trinity is just a name. Every review says that Lange is the most superb quality brand in watch industry. Also HT has not come with any breaking complication in years. It's overhyped myth.
@@arturgarncarz3631 Depends on what you include in the category of "brand". If you include Philippe Dufour, Greubel Forsey, H. Moser, Laurent Ferrier, FP Journe... Then Lange starts getting some competition.
A. Lange & Sohne watch is my all time favorite. I read an article about those watches 20 years ago and feel in love with them. I will never own a real one but I can still enjoy the beauty of the time peace.
The Grand Seiko has a beautiful classic design. The A. Lange & Söhne isn’t a watch, it’s a work of art that happens to relay time and date. The owner of the Rolex wants to thank you for making his well cared after watch, look trashed.
Agree on the GS and ALS. Regarding the Rolex, he knows and doesn't care about it haha, last video I got from him was him using the bracelet to open a champagne bottle "sabrage style" xD
That third one's movement is definitely mesmerizing. The dial is awesome as well. Would never be able to amass enough money for it, so the GS is looking pretty good.
Fantastic video. The Lange movement is just stupendous and even more so under the microscope. Grand Seiko also was also so impressive, especially for the price.
I would like to have seen a microscopic comparison of an A. Lange & Sohne and a Patek Philippe since they would be very competitive in price. I always had a feeling that A. Lange finishing was world class and this video just proved it. Just wish I could afford one!
I would always prefer the Rolex, because it's cooler and doesn't cost anything. But the movement of the german watch is pure porn. I would like to have it in an glass body to see every detail.
The GS showed that it is the best value for money in the business but of course the Lange is in its own world beyond normal. I'd love to see some Cartier, Voutilainen and MB&F under the microscope ! Thanks for an another awesome Video.
Precision really comes through in price the Lange was amazing could spend all day looking at it. The Seiko is incredible as well Rolex is a marketing creation actually not of same quality.
Actually the level of finishing of the Seiko looked completely comparabile (if not superior) with the Lange. Of course the Lange is just a better constructed watch as it overall uses nicer materials
Could you do a microscope comparison between GS White Birch vs Lange’s entry level pieces to see how close/far apart the quality of movement finishing?
I would like to see a nice combination of tiers: Chinese products, japan, german, swiss but all from a low to mid range compared to a 5-10k Swiss watch.
Just wow, I am still fairly young but I have several watches that I saved for as I love the intricate detail and movement.. I know what I will save for now, this A. Lange & Söhne is one of the most beautiful landscapes I have ever seen. The comparison to a futuristic city was so true for me. I just stumbled onto your channel but wow.
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You must you use this microscope in a fake VS genuine watch comparison. Show the true differences.
That's a good idea :)
If you need a microscope to find the difference in watches get the fake and save money
Absolutely!!! But normally you can use your eyes from 10 feet.
@@superpinbang694 that’s if you are just buying for fake ego or acting like you have money! There are perfectly good functioning watches for less then $30us, just buy that if it’s just for function. Or get a smart watch still cheaper than a Rolex with more functions. The Watches here are an investment and appreciation of craftsmanship! With a knock-off, you are paying literally for the name and not the actual craftsmanship and function that made the name!
It would be shame for the real one if the fake can immitate above 80%
As a machinist and toolmaker, I can testify that even the small defects you find on some of these watches are still amazingly close to perfect, machining especially by hand such small parts is extremely difficult and the defects are what gives the watches personality and are hand made to very close to perfection. I assume most of the very small parts are made by wire edm using a .006 wire.
I have done jobs on satellite transmitter parts with .002" wire (human hair is .003"). Basically, to go in and chase openings in parts that were originally cut with .006" wire to reduce the corner radii. You have no idea what a complete PITA it is to work with.
😅😅
@@ffedurch sounds expensive, I’m only running .25mm wire these days as my machines are now 30 years old.
I want a microscope set up like that. It scares me to think how much that might cost.
@@ahwhite2022some models over 60k EUR, some affordable 45k only ;)
The Grand Seiko looks very special especially for the price. Great show guys, thank you x
The Keyence microscope is the star of the show here!
Where can i find this microscope
We use their sensors and i must say they are very advance in that field.
@@sultanbino when you cough up 70k
Seriously...my mind is blown
haha yea!
How did you like this episode & which watches should we look at next time? Watch Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/xH54YMUN_Ko/v-deo.html
Definitely make more of these!
Some more vintage watches would be cool!
Do one with an enamel dial! Love the episode!!
Check Rexhep Rexhepi Chronometre Contemporain
@@leyay7540 careful what you wish for
Grand Seiko's attention to detail at their price point is incredible but the A.Lange & Sohne is literally an art piece on your wrist
incredible price point? is $10K for a spring drive with a nice dial worth it? you can get other luxury watches with actual complications for that price point no?
@@jaydunna2645 you don't like spring drive and the innovation GS brings to the table so I don't think I can explain it to you :) sorry
what is the innovation?@@tunguyentruonganh7428
@@jaydunna2645Grand Seiko Spring Drive makes Swiss watches look basic and aged in comparison. If you’re not such a sheep that the “Swiss” branding turns you into a zombie, then it’s very easy to appreciate the value.
@@Psyopcyclops the irony of a Grand Seiko fan calling someone a sheep 😶. My favourite watches are German, but that's cool, i understand why you would want a spring drive with 0 complications for upwards of 5k.
My dad worked on watches as a repairman back in the '60's. Fascinating seeing such workmanship so close. I have his Self Winding Bulova watch from 1956. Still works.
As an artist, and as someone who apricates functional art such as high-end watches, I love how you guys made what would typically be a less than stimulating discussion into one that is quite entertaining while maintaining informative integrity.
Thanks for your kind comment!
Those watches were beautiful peices though. He's right you could stare at that Lange movement for days.
Luxury goods is about brand recognition, and they are mostly bought by people who want to flaunt their wealth. Details like this don't concern them unless it makes them look less "prestigious".
@@sepg5084 in part maybe. But not the majority. In everyday life virtually nobody notices your watch so it's rather useless to "flaunt one's wealth". In certain circles, like the local country club, golf club, yacht club, etc., maybe.
sorry, the only lovely thing here, it's the microscope
The Rolex doesn't compare with the GS or Lange - beautifully impressive pieces.
Specialy the Lange
It really is amazing how fine the quality is at a surface level, but when that quality goes beyond what you can ever see with the naked eye, then you know it's something special. I'm impressed with the GS.
GS did well.
GS is a *real* masterwork. It's only looked down on by snobs because it has electronics in it. Rolex on the other hand makes a million watches a year.. almost as many as the Casio G-Shock in its heyday.
It’s truly incredible how perfect the GS is and it’s Handmade! definitely my Holy Grail of watches truly amazing
@@stickyfox do GS automatics really have electronics in them?
@@andreashabeck1155 I can't afford one so I'll admit I don't know if this describes the *whole* product line, but the humbly named Spring Drive uses a quartz-calibrated "magnetic brake" on a caliber that runs faster than normal by design. The extra energy of the balance wheel is turned into electricity and burned in just the right amount to keep the watch accurate.
I can get why a "purist" might consider this cheating in a sense. I have heard it compared to a "cheap quartz watch," and maybe that's why they don't use the Q-word too loudly. But IMO it is *the* most advanced and artistic timepiece. Rolex IMO showcases aesthetic traits like laser engraving and superlative finishing/polishing, but inside it's still largely the same watch they made in the 50s. Seiko were not content to stop there.
Again, I have more human concerns vying for my money so this is just my perspective as an engineer and builder of (much larger) machines. If I was flush with money and wanted to make a statement, I feel like the GS better exemplifies the spirit of innovation and technical restlessness that moves us forward, and the Rolex is like any other watch.
But the Milgauss is also a beautiful piece of engineering for all the same reasons, don't get me wrong.
Grand seiko is so underrated, if spring drive was made by rolex it would be hailed as the greatest movement of all time.
haha probably
its not underrated what are you saying ? people buy them, people love them. not as much as rolex obviously, cuz rolex is better in many regards.
@@sergezerkin better as in what, precisely?
It's not underrated at all on the internet. The internet is littered with GS fanboys.
@@MS-pd2yo I think Rolex is better in keeping value over the years.
Remember that Grand Seiko is under $6,000 and the level of quality and hand polishing is incredible
I haven't had a watch for over a decade, since my phone tells the date and time. I don't miss the watch tan 😄 sometimes it just feels cooler wearing a watch. Like wearing a suit or nice shoes. It gives you a boost in confidence.
My Tag Heuer for less than the half doesn't look less good.
@@danielhopkins2277 Except your tag heuer uses a basic quartz movement while pretending to be a luxury swiss watch when it just isn't.
@@NJ0711
1. My Tag is an automatic
2 we talking only partly about the movement
3. Still not much less luxury than Grand Seiko, especially for people who aren't into watches
@@danielhopkins2277
1. Don't care
2. Don't care
3. Don't care
Tag Heuer doesn't come close to Grand Seiko in terms of finishing, movement and accuracy.
The A.Lange & Söhne was amazing, im sorry but Rolex doesn't even compare. Its like Supreme vs professional tailor made clothes.
supreme is a skate brand lol they don’t make clothes for quality they make them for style
@@dylan7657 thats the point lol
@@Immortal_BP what do you mean the rolex was preowned
Is it correct: You compare new watches with pre-owned watches? Would be unfair.
Uh yeah, different price points and different purposes. Would I use ALS as a daily driver? No. Rolex? Absolutely
How about looking at some famous vintage watches and their movements? Would be interesting to see what the old manufacturing produced under high magnification.
Excellent point! Love to see vintage under the scope...repeat seiko, rolex & lange...see then and now @Swiss Watch Gang
Yea, good idea!
Vintage watches will be worse, why would you believe they wouldn't? manufacturing process were not as refined 30 years ago.
Vintage watches have up to 50 years of wear-n-tear that will be pronounced under high magnification. Manufacturing processes have evolved over time. You don't really own a watch for time reading purposes, you own a mechanical watch because it's a work of art.
Great idea, please do that! Love to see proper watches up close! :)))
OMG the Grand Seiko is so beauty and perfect
The energy in this video is amazing. That A. Lange & Söhne takes the crown today. Hands down. We need Pierre to appear more on the channel.
Kind of you, 😊
Lange is 20x the price. Do you think the finishing was 20x better than GS?
@@arashmalekzadeh1 frankly, yes I do. I believe that there should not be a lot of rationality behind your watch purchases. The heart wants what it wants
But they never zoomed 200x on the Lange dial... The GS finishing was incredible
They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
This combination of luxury watches under extreme magnification is brilliant. Please make a part 3, and 4, and 5, 6, 7...
As a professional photographer, I am totally in love with this microscope set up!!
Then why don't you marry it.
@@youtubecensors5419 most funniest watch enthusiast
$70k US!
@@paintballplayer700 yeah, painful
@@paintballplayer700 what model is it
May we ask for more such videos please? Thank you for featuring the GS. The AL&S was the star of this show, unbelievable!
I think they should have taken more 200X shots on the hands and indexes of the Lange.. It feels like they scrutinized the Rolex and GS more
You may and we'll make them for sure!
But first a haircut for Pierre. Man buns are…..😖
What annoys me is that they took the worst brand of Switzerland
They should have taken a Patek Phillipe, a Audemars Piguet, H. Moser & Co or Jacob & Co or any other better brand than Rolex
Rolex used to do good things, but they don't anymore
@@syxalite We took the brands people suggested. We had my AP in the first Microscope video we did and will introduce more on the future so stay tuned.
When you take into account the prices, the Grand Seiko was the best. This video shows how over rated Rolex is. A very interesting video thanks. Just subscribed.
yea, welcome to the channel!
Man anything with a premium price is over priced. Same goes for Grand Seiko.
Just look at how many 100 if not 1000's % value increase they give this crap.
I also feel Rolexes are overrated but...... what do I know right?
A Rolex is a Rolex though
I’ll take a The legendary Rolex
The level of hand finishing on the Lange watch is from another planet, it’s the pinnacle of pure class craftsmanship within the Watch industry
So perfect it looked like CGI lol
That's not surprising - the Lange is a German watch.
That Grand Seiko was so well done.
Yessir....best made watch for your money period. Just doesn't carry the brand hype...like the Swiss conglomerate
This is one of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen.
Thanks Herman, means a lot!
Wow, what beauty. Well done, gentlemen. Well done. The A.Lange & Söhne movement is impossible to believe.
After being a watch enthusiast for a few years, watching this video convinced me to buy my first Grand Seiko (SBGA429.) I'm truly loving this new GS, and very quickly becoming a GS fanboy. ;-)
Awesome!!
How much it cost u?
@Just do itYup. And the watch featured in the video (SBGA407) is the latest addition to my collection.
@@zhuzhu9599 I don't know which he got, but between $2000 to $10,000.
Now I know why these watches are expensive, it's not just a machine it's a artistry . Phenomenal
Absolutely.
That rule applies to cooking.
Oh yes. When you're bying one of these watches you're buying a piece of art. If you just want to know what time and date it is, you could just buy a Casio F91 for less than $20. It's probably more accurate than any of these watches, and you don't have to worry about winding it either. But, of course, it wouldn't be the same.
@@HGSolberg Agree.
@@HGSolberg Ahh yes...I constantly tell myself this too. It's more of functional art really. Yes it is a tool but...ya know... a fancy tool. Since Casio does great watches with shock and water resistance that rivals all the big brands.
The Lange is of course insane, but the most striking thing is the higher quality of the GS next to the Rolex. There's really no contest in that price range.
This is one of the most interesting videos I've seen in a while. Nice idea and execution!
2nd that
Thank you!
The sharpness and precision on the hands of the GS is really impressive.
The quality of the GS under the microscope is simply amazing. Seriously a well made watch.
My favorite GS detail is that they polish the underside of the hands to the same level as the other sides, so when you look under a microscope like this you can see the bottom of the minute and second hands reflected in the hour hand.
GS snowflake is just gorgeous, the polishing is insane.
I highly recommend. I get some of the most sincere compliments on my GS/seikos, and I have gifted seiko 5 divers to many friends to get their collections started
Definitely a nice watch!
@@rajgill7576 I believe that!
@@rajgill7576. Unfortunately you will never be able to sell a Seiko for more or even the same price you payed for, unlike Rolex that will increase in price . Also, I believe that if if you’d displayed 100 watches of both brands on a table, giving to anyone passing by the watch of hi choice, the first Seiko will go after the last Rolex is picked.
@@HydrateYoSelf not at all, I just like what’s original, esthetic and classy
You guys took us on a journey that wouldn’t normally be possible…thank you! I love all three watches. If money was not a concern, that Lange would be on my wrist right now. Then the Grand Seiko. The Rolex is used & we therefor should give it more of a pass on the micro-review. What a fascinating visual adventure! Keep doing segments like this guys. Besides the intriguing magnification tour, this approach also gives us a much more detailed look of the dial, hand details, & of some mind-blowing movements! Bravo!
This is just insane 🤩 you should definitely make more videos like this!
Agreed
Thanks! Will do :D
Was fun making another watch video! I willl also soon post regular youtube videos for the more curious people. See you soon again ;)
Excellent, thank you. Subscribed 👍🏻
@@stevefox8605 very appreciated !
@@stevefox8605 They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
@O BOZ They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
Would be interesting to see how affordable watches like orient or lower price Seiko compare to this luxury watches in term of finishing and to see if this amount of money is worth it
This is a fantastic partnership and you two have excellent chemistry.
As watchmaker I have split feelings with microskping like that. Because some customer are disappointed when they see some little faults and brands could come into struggle selling or producing their pieces. But would customer pay 10x more of the actual price if companys would check their watches like that?! Remember the watchmaker check their finishing work with 3x to 10x loupe while playing with light on the workbench not with 200x on the screen! On the other hand I feel like there are too many luxury watches on the market. That magnification thing could help to decrease the quantity and increase the quality. But still a intresting video. I wonder how a watch from the "godfather of finish" would look like under this microscope ;)
Would be awesome to get a PD under the microscope, I have a friend with one, but hard to travel now due to covid...
I see it as keeping the higher price brands in check.
Would I expect perfection on a 10k watch? No.
Would I expect it on a 200k watch? Yes.
Same here. I do watch repair. So much of the things people go crazy over annoy the crap out of me. And all by people who don't see a watch at the level you and I do. Gets annoying.
Rolex upcharges their watches by absurd amounts. With their billions of dollars surely they can afford many such microscopes for quality assurance department.
Bucket List: Watch a video about analyzing watches with a microscope *check*
That A Lange & Söhne is downright gorgeous. Well done you guys.
When you look at the German watch you don’t zoom 200X like you did with the GS...a bit biased
Nah, original video was 1hr40min long so we took a lot out on all ends. You can see imperfections on the Lange as well.
16:49
I just seen that Seiko rules in time keeping.
Why don’t you? Fool.
@@SwissWatchGang and you let over 2 min about the hair 🙄
That German watch is insanely amazing, hands down the best in my opinion. Great video!
Never had so much fun watching 2 guys look at watches under a microscope ❤😂
A total win for GS…despite being by far the cheapest watch of these three.
you guys should 100% do the Holy Trinity of watches next time or some vintage watches if possible, that would be dopeeeee!
Noted! Thanks for watching M. :D
That last one is a engineering marvel in my opinion, absolutely beautiful
Would love to see a Vacheron Constantin under the scope. It would be awesome if you could do the Holy Trinity ---VC, PP and AP
That Grand Seiko is just incredible period. It hits way above it's weight money wise. Not really fair for the Rolex being it is a used watch. The finish shows much better under the crystal
I need a GS even more after seeing this video
Won't hold value like a Rolex
Obviously the reason isnt value... not everybody buys for investment.
@@psychoticbreaks167justletm4 doesn't make sense to flush money down the toilet. If you buy smart you can have best of both worlds.
@@bdegrds Buying a watch as an investment, especially a STEEL watch, is the dumbest thing ever. And a Grand Seiko is cheaper then a Rolex, but also far superior visually and mechanically. So flushing down money the toilet, is buying a Rolex because it’s a Rolex, instead of something you truly enjoy.
haha
The A.Lange & Söhne is an example of layered experience and engineering that highlights the beauty of invention and experience over centuries. Amazing video.
Very cool video! Results were as expected but now I'm even more surprised by GS than I was before! maybe someday... Also I like the vibe between you two, really entertaining to watch and I'm definitely down for part 3!
Thank you, glad you liked it and Part 3 is definitely coming!
What's amazing is how close the standard of finishing between the GS and the ALS is, considering the Lange is twenty times more expensive
We didn't even see the finishing of the A. Lange because they only showed 50x of the dial. They then show the GS and Rolex at 200x to show the minute imperfections. How about showing the hand of the A. Lange and indices at 200x then we'll even see how good the GS really is for the price.
@@pkpnyt4711 look at the date wheel too on the Lange. The # 1 on it is poorly painted and the polishing on all he surfaces barely comes clpse to the near perfection of the GS dial and Zaratsu polishing.
Seiko's are the best value, always.
@@pkpnyt4711 as mentioned we were already seeing flaws on the lange at 50x
More than that I found the GS for $5,800 and the ALG listed for $389,000. Idk if the specs are the same but it looked the same
I could watch the A. Lange & Söhne movement all day. I wish I could use it as a live wallpaper on my phone and desktop!
I must say that my respect for A. Lange & Söhne has grown considerably. It seems to be a brand beyond Rolex. I already own Nomos, a German brand from the same town as A. Lange & Söhne. If the German quality in Nomos is anything to go by, then A. Lange & Söhne must be exceptional.
i am happy with nomos , wonderful quality
Well, hard to compare a Rolex to A. Lange & Söhne, not fair. :)
@@adilashraf6993 from what I've seen so far, great watches, we''ll have one on the channel this Friday. :)
Comparing Rolex with Lange & Söhne. They play in different leagues. Let alone Rolex is itself quite overvalued for what it offers
Pretty much every brand is beyond Rolex, the Apple of watches. Shit quality and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced. Rolexes are $1000 watches at most!
You two would make a great comedy duo. It's a reverse of the usual pattern where the main guy is the straight man and the sidekick/guest is the zany one.
lol
Front dial of the Lange & Söhne with the depth it has and the movement shadowed underneath is just insane. I would probably want to wear something like the Grand Seiko with it's equal precision.. but wow that Lange & Söhne...
The one dislike must have been a Rolex GMT owner
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That makes absolutely 0 sense.
@@biglollol let me guess? you own a gmt?
@@gh778 no, but I'm a watchmaker for a Rolex AD. That's why I said it makes no sense.
@@biglollol what makes no sense? it does not come as a surprise, that the more expensive Rolex is finished worse than the GS
Awesome. The A. Lange&Söhne finishing is amazing!
Oh yea, absolutely!
Amazing! The german watch, especially the screw to secure a 'swan' part... beautiful. Wonderful engineering & fabulous magnification. Thanks
A Holy Trinity microscopic comparison would be nice. Curious if they can match the ALS
Holy trinity is just a name. Every review says that Lange is the most superb quality brand in watch industry. Also HT has not come with any breaking complication in years. It's overhyped myth.
@@arturgarncarz3631 wrong.
@@BobbyDazzler888 prove
@@arturgarncarz3631 Depends on what you include in the category of "brand". If you include Philippe Dufour, Greubel Forsey, H. Moser, Laurent Ferrier, FP Journe... Then Lange starts getting some competition.
@@benbowland yes, noone can reach the level of finishing of philippe dufour watches
Every day I'm impressed more and more by the Japanese! Grand Seiko is TRUE value and fantastic craftsmanship!
The Seiko looks elegant. The A.Lange & Söhne is amazing. This particular Rolex looks like a toy.
Well, no one is anywhere near those macro shots! Incredible! Most enjoyable video, thank you both. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
That microscope is sick man. As a Rolex watchmaker I use x25 loupe at max. So seeing stuff x200 magnified was awesome. So crisp and sharp as well.
Thanks and I'm glad you liked it!
That's not a microscope. It's a stereoscope!
A. Lange & Sohne watch is my all time favorite. I read an article about those watches 20 years ago and feel in love with them. I will never own a real one but I can still enjoy the beauty of the time peace.
The Grand Seiko has a beautiful classic design. The A. Lange & Söhne isn’t a watch, it’s a work of art that happens to relay time and date.
The owner of the Rolex wants to thank you for making his well cared after watch, look trashed.
Agree on the GS and ALS. Regarding the Rolex, he knows and doesn't care about it haha, last video I got from him was him using the bracelet to open a champagne bottle "sabrage style" xD
The be fair he indices of the grand seiko are hand polished by eye so imperfections at that magnification are to be expected.
anything under that magnification can happen.
That third one's movement is definitely mesmerizing. The dial is awesome as well. Would never be able to amass enough money for it, so the GS is looking pretty good.
Fantastic video. The Lange movement is just stupendous and even more so under the microscope. Grand Seiko also was also so impressive, especially for the price.
Absolutely incredible content. I like how the gent handeling the microscope is just as enthusiastic about discovering the details.
hehe I for sure found out some new things there while looking at the watches
@@smallturnsBIG They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
hehe ye i love it ;)
Thank you!
Fascinating stuff , thankyou
I would like to see if the grand Seiko finishing differs from the two different studios. High beat vs. Spring drive plz
They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
@@Mister.L598 Buy what you like, I guess *shrug*
Interesting.
Love the chemistry between the two, insightful while being entertaining!
Thanks!
I would like to have seen a microscopic comparison of an A. Lange & Sohne and a Patek Philippe since they would be very competitive in price. I always had a feeling that A. Lange finishing was world class and this video just proved it. Just wish I could afford one!
Surprised!
The GS dial and hands finishing was better than the A.Lange!
Well, so so. They had both their flavs but GS for that price is great no doubt.
I wouldn't say better, but considering the Lange costs 20 times as much as the GS, it's remarkable just how close the Grand Seiko got
Awesome super zoom in on the details. ALS is seriously a high horology among the watch world... thanks Marko for the great show!
Thanks!
Awesome video ! Please include RM and Jacob & Co in the next video.
Noted!
Please do a microscopic magnifying on Glashutte Original, Nomos, Patek Philippe, and Vacheron Constantin.
Noted!
@@SwissWatchGang Thanks, and all the best to this channel. :) It'll definitely fly high.
You just save me lot of money , thank you.
That last watch was one of the most beautiful things ive seen in my life! Humans are awesome!
haha nice! :D
I would always prefer the Rolex, because it's cooler and doesn't cost anything. But the movement of the german watch is pure porn. I would like to have it in an glass body to see every detail.
from price point and craftmanship, GS stands out among the three. value and quality for money.
yes, it's a good balance.
The Lange&Sohne goes for $400,000 used. I can see why it's flawless. It's an absolutely gorgeous watch
It feels like this is what Watchfinder & Co are using to film close-ups. That was fun tho. Hope you make more 😅
haha nah, they use normal cameras, no need for a microscope. :)
The GS showed that it is the best value for money in the business but of course the Lange is in its own world beyond normal. I'd love to see some Cartier, Voutilainen and MB&F under the microscope ! Thanks for an another awesome Video.
They advertise watches made by robots. A watch made by men always has imperfections. They have a very stupid vision of watchmaking.
for sure.
Seeing the magnification rotate looks amazing... Especially with deep parts like the Lange movemend or Rolex amgnification glass
Precision really comes through in price the Lange was amazing could spend all day looking at it. The Seiko is incredible as well Rolex is a marketing creation actually not of same quality.
Yes, the quality is great on the ALS and GS, Rolex is also ok considering the amounts the produce...
@@SwissWatchGang stop the cap, thats a fake Rolex, easy to tell by the blue hue on the day magnifier
The A. Langer & Sohne stands out like a Sphinx, incredible piece of German craftsmanship.
The microscope looks fun. It having build in orbiting and focus stacking is great.
Huge thumbs up! Wow! Amazing Lange. Amazing Grand Seiko. Two of my absolute favorites! The hype is real!
Yeaaa!! It’s cool that you can actually buy a GS with no waiting time and a massive discount!!!
Glad you liked it!
Bravo GS! The Lange movement was INCREDIBLE to see at that magnification level! Incredible detail and finishing.
Thanks for watching!
A.Lange & Söhne is really amazing. As well as Keyence microscope is a totally fantastic tool.
Actually the level of finishing of the Seiko looked completely comparabile (if not superior) with the Lange. Of course the Lange is just a better constructed watch as it overall uses nicer materials
but grand seikos are less dangerous to the bank account
The clever meshing of 2 gears with very different tooth sizes was my favorite thing in the Lange.
The movement of Lange watch under the microscopes is just a piece of infinite art!
Could you do a microscope comparison between GS White Birch vs Lange’s entry level pieces to see how close/far apart the quality of movement finishing?
Just mindblowing how all three brands pay attention to detail.
:D
I would like to see a nice combination of tiers: Chinese products, japan, german, swiss but all from a low to mid range compared to a 5-10k Swiss watch.
Noted!
I wana see a vostok anphibia dissasembled with that micriscope. And a orient bambino
@@zomgz932 I second this.
@@SwissWatchGang Hey SWG - when are we getting more content?!
@@MrMrbrown862 Every Friday. But microscope we're still talking to the company + watch brands. Takes time unfortunately...
I'm just watching someone flexing his microscope and someone flexing his watches lol
My dad was a watchmaker... I'm glad I found this channel.. SUBSCRIBED
Just wow, I am still fairly young but I have several watches that I saved for as I love the intricate detail and movement.. I know what I will save for now, this A. Lange & Söhne is one of the most beautiful landscapes I have ever seen. The comparison to a futuristic city was so true for me. I just stumbled onto your channel but wow.
Glad you liked the video. If you like watches you might like my channel for the wide brand diversity! :)
Next time a GS vs Patek vs Vacheron
Noted!
This was a great video gentlemen. Thank you.