50 Cent Army | who are they | why do they exist | what are they thinking
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- In this video, I talked about China's 50 cent army. Who are these people, and where do they come from? Are they bad people? What are they thinking? Was I one of them?
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What a great video. Balanced and well reasoned. I wish you all the best.
"...the real enemy of the world is the one who creates hatred and prevents rational discussion."
~Simon Yu
Thank you for telling your side of these online trolls. It's always good to see things from the other person's eyes too. Greetings from Germany.
Hi Simon. Your video content is improving all of the time. I think that no matter where people are from in the world, they get exposed to propaganda & ideology, to varying degrees. Sometimes it is hard to know what is truth, & what is fiction...
Keep up the good work.
Congratulations on hitting 3,000. Subscribers...
Brian O'Dwyer thanks Brian!
I would agree Brian - that's why Critical Thinking and Problem Solving
along with the abilities to Access Information and Analyzing that Information
are so important... Great and other FireWalls, Censorship, Prior Restraint and other "Blocks" are all developed to prevent the individual as well as the group from accessing and/or acquiring necessary facts to formulate unbiased opinions.
Western media is always very one sided when taking about China. When White people thinks about china gov most of their views are the same as Western media. Most White people are not Critical Thinkers when discussing about China gov. I AM A WUMAO!
50 Cent Army works hard right now under Hongkong videos :D It's the biggest troll army, only Indians may compete with them, but should they be competed in such activity even...
LadyKetandra The 50 cent army in Hong Kong news from the western media is disastrous. Right now they are like bots telling us how “brainwashed” we are. And calling the hong kongers, “cockroaches”
@@c-a-t-entertinment7075 man thats true every time a discuss chinese person about hong kong he/she always telling that i am brainwashed
@@gff6929 they
themselves are the 'brainwashed' ,support hk from malaysia.
@Hans Otto Kroeger stop hiding 50 soldier
They're working harder amid the COVID-19 pandemic. As you mentioned, I hope India can work with the US to destroy the CCP.
6:18 that's actually scary 😂
Man I love China, but I hate how communism affects the society.... That's why I chose to settle down in Taiwan.
@@emilmuller1248 Taiwan was a different type of dictatorship.
@@emilmuller1248 True, but communism is still relevant sadly, and the 50 cent army are just barking
@@emilmuller1248 what u mean?
@@emilmuller1248 What about the chinese communist party or marxism-leninsm-maoism? I think that have to do *A LOT* with historical examples of marxist thought in continental China since 1949. I don't think we're talking about the utopical and literally impossible "academic" definition of what "communism" is, and you clearly know that, don't fool yourself.
@@emilmuller1248 this has lot to do . Take my country's example. Here whenever sino-indian or indo rivalry sparks off those cpi ,cpi(m), liberandus(not liberals but radical leftists , even feminists) and others bark a lot to defend ccp and jehadist neighbor
“Communism managed to monetize trolling before capitalism”
-BMonus
As a Hongkonger, thank you for this video.
Thank you for your bravery and honesty.
Hey, Simon, new subscriber here, I am English but grew up in Hong Kong. You have good content and I appreciate your perspective. Good luck.
Another very informative video, brother.
Great video as always love from Bangladesh. I had never heard about the 50 cent army before.
You seem like a wise young man. An open mind is the key to critical thinking which leads to wisdom
I just so love your videos and you are very candid and so honest! Great discussion, your fan from the Philippines 🇵🇭!
Hahaha. Pangasinan is part of China before the Spanish from 1405 to 1580. Chinese founded the capital of Lingayen in 1406. Deal with it.
@@derptrolling4740 hahahahah loser ccp rat
Whilst I really appreciate the insight and the courage of your testimony, the devastating effect of these wumao must not be underestimated...we are talking about millions of fandom regrouping like armies on social/news/gaming platforms and mounting targeted assaults, sometimes crossing into real life...consequences in HK, Taiwan, Australia, Canada and some part of the US are terrified kids growing into resentful teens and adults...I know since I moderate/see various chats that regularly come under attack...you very rightly mention patience, understanding and time, unfortunately (and I hope I am wrong), it feels like everyone is going to run out of these pretty soon...stay safe and keep posting!! Peace...
What This video is underrated ?????
Your language, thoughts, ideas and views are so well put together! So constructive and not limited by objectiveness! You are greatly appreciated! Thank you so much! And great job giving a kitten its new home! You guys have a great heart!
You are so kind to take a lonely cat back to your home, and give him food and water. It’s awesome! Give you a thumb up, and thanks for teaching me English! Ciao!
I agree! Your videos are getting better all the time. Loved the bit at the end with the cats :-)
Simon l couldn’t agree with you more. As l said before you are a breath of fresh air with your reasonable narrative. Great you have changed to thinking for yourself and see the light. As a Christian I pray and hope you will inspire more of your homeland people to think reasonable like you and discuss/debate the issue rather than succumbing to personal attacks when they disagree . It was troubling and sad to read the nasty attacks against Trish Regan recently over the trade war.
One of the most important things in a debate is to not get defensive or hostile. That's the first step to truly understanding the discussion. I really appreciate that you mentioned it!
Great video!
Great explanation and commentary. I feel like this is no longer possible to talk about in 2023 China. I just left there.
I like your open minded style of presentation. Thanks!
You are very kind to take care of the orphaned kitty !
It would be a far better world if wveryone was as open minded as you. Im glad there is still room for discourse and rqtional discussion. Good job on this video friend
Thanks Simon!
I agree that people need to calm down and make a rational decision as well as putting themselves in the shoes of those they oppose. Anger and thoughtless protest doesn't acheive much at all
Well said, Simon!
It's really lovely at the end that the cat finally gets its home.
What you said in this video is freaking so true, the comments made by 50 cents are exactly what I saw on internet. Thank you so much for making this video and also the precise analysis! Respect!
Why do mainlanders always think we in the west hate China? That surprised me most when I was seeing the comments from China. We in the west have been pretty ignorant of China for the most part, for a lot of us it wasn’t that important, so when I saw people from China who told me I hate China, I was surprised because I have never had any bad feelings toward China up until that point, they were just another country. But honestly those people made me see China differently and I’m more cautious with them than ever, because they lack empathy. That’s the biggest difference I’ve seen, chinese people from the mainland lack empathy for what they don’t understand. That sounds like a sweeping generalization, and in a sense it is, but I would say only 1 out of 10 that I speak to actually understand how to think for others in situations they don’t understand or don’t agree with. And I’ve made it a point to talk to many Chinese people because I wanted to understand why the HK situation makes them so mad and they can’t find any empathy for their plight even though they don’t like the way protesters are behaving. It’s just “black hands of the west, propaganda, brainwashed, idiots, terrorists, traitors etc.” only a few people could think outside the box and not get too emotional about the situation.
not the normal wester people, but the western media hates China, because China has our own value and our own rule how a country should be managed. we are not a slave of so called western ideology. China does 99 good things and 1 bad thing, then western media only report that bad thing. international survey company always showing more than 86% of Chinese people support our government, and CCP did brings prosperity to China, but in western media, China is always a country close to collapse next day, full of greedy officials, no good people in street, making only fake products etc.. thats why Chinese people says, after I read western media, I never realized I love my country and my government so much! I realized how hard CCP doing their jobs in such bad environment!
I appreciate you Simon!
Serpentza sent me. As a foreigner living in china for 15 years and married to a fantastic chinese woman, I am so sick and tired of the CCP destroying the hopes of the youngs...Keep going Simon!
How is the CCP destroying the hopes of the youth?
Then just get out of China, why live for so long? it's our country and we love CCP. CCP brings prosperity and that's why you stay here, why don't you go africa or mynmar to seek your democracy?
@@apakumqi5734 because he is lying, Chinese youth has more hope than any other country, that's why he says CCP bad, but never leave! action speaks the truth!
@@roych3281 I am really sick of those trash!
Please do some videos on Nathan Rich and this concept of "useful idiot" in China. Basically, a number of white guys are making pro-CCP videos and getting super popular from it.
I think he is playing an idiot intentionally for personal gains.
Bart Baker is definitely the saddest one though
I would say serpentZA is the one that is creating hatred after sold himself to NED for USA Visa.
Unlike wumao, Nathan Rich does not buy into ideology as most of us (probably including you) are inclined to. He is an admirable commentator on the Internet, who uses logic, observes things objectively, cares for integrity of the reports, free from bias arising from personal and inevitably incomplete experiences, and tried hard to avoid prejudice. Although speaking intensely, he has been refraining from name-calling ("wumao" is an example) and has never applied foul language in his remarks. His impartiality is best evidenced in his comments on the ongoing Hong Kong's issue. Never did he oppose the the protesters if peaceful pursuit of democracy were their goal. Nor did he necessarily criticize the misguided mass movement against the extradition laws, He only spoke up and pointed out the misleading and unbalanced news reports by the (in)famous mass media including those established TV or newspapers inside or outside of Hong Kong. His position is straightforward: Pro-CCP or Pro-democracy or not, journalistic professionals should always try their best to report WHAT HAPPENED, not what they like.
@@riccia888 serpenza as well as lawai86 are indeed phycopath.. their approaches were to generalize isolated incident, they may witnessed one bad thing, then they claim all chinese do so.... it is the most dangerous thing to mix fact with lies... in his past video he expressed his wish to stay in china but he did not get the visa. he had trip to USA after he returned back from USA, he devoted himself to smear China...
I totally support you Simon Yu
wow i am so impressed you! Love from HK. You're like a stream of fresh water! Keep it up!
Sorry for this rant I've been putting out. I just grew up in a country where it's now constantly threatened by China and I fear we might end up like the Uighurs, just because we don't look like the typical asian. It has been a rough week for me, dealing with these troll accounts but thanks to this video, I now understand why something like this happens in China....
same \:
I've been called wumao for talking about Chinese culture in Reddit. The word is often misused by anti Chinese people.
中國政府教育人民要愛國，國家像自己的父母，無論多麼不好也要愛國。正常的國家，國家不是政府，但是中國只有一個共產黨政府。所以許多老百姓混在一起了。認為批評政府就是不愛國。還好你有一個台灣妻子，了解事實真相。
Excellent content, again. I have two questions: 1. Your video and editing quality is near professional. How is all this funded? 2. You are far too logical and thought provoking to be ignored. Why are there no negative "50 cent" posters among your comments? It may be that they are not permitted to view this UA-cam content at all.
Glad you like my video:) I borrow camera from my Auntie, she has a good Sony camera but she doesn’t use it that much, lol. I also spend some money, such as the DJI OSMO action. I do got few haters as well, you can find them from my previous videos:(.
Very good video, this was amazing
Yeah, I've managed to block so many of them from my channel that none of them really show up anymore. It is like you have to filter them out over time. Sure they will make new accounts and try again, but it is okay. We cannot allow them to just curse and attack people in the comment sections. Seems your comment section is clean. So far your channel is doing well.
In a future video, you write about why the country is not ready for democracy. I think this is one quality required by a strong majority of the country in order for this to occur. A lot of scholars and books were lost in recent Chinese history. In my opinion, you have answered your own question within this video.
Great video, these days I got sucked into so many arguments with wumaos spamming HK and Taiwan posts. Nice to hear your perspective and so happy to see an open minded person who grew up in the mainland. Keep it up!
nice to see you back. interesting. keep it up.
People who get all hostile and combative when trying to have a reasonable discussion are really not worth the time to talk to. They will not change because people will not want to waste their time trying to talk to a hard head.
Wow, I am very impressed of your honesty and the progress you have made despite of your young age and the environment you grew up!
It gives hope for the rest of China. 👍
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Even though this video is from 1 year ago, it turns out that many people are still shocked by bots or trolls, this has become commonplace around the world.
it is precisely these days that many ignorant people consider different opinions to be bots or trolls.
LoL 🤣
I'm happy to hear your perspective. I can understand that sense of patriotism for your country. If you are not taught to think critically and questions what you are being told, it can be easy to blindly follow those in power. However, if enough people think this way and are willing to threaten military force, won't we be allowing history to repeat itself with situations similar to Germany in both world wars? The situation in China and the way it teaches its people is not something that should be ignored. The people of China deserve the access to more truthful and varied sources of information.
Awesome! very informative
With the giving back of HK can completely get where you're coming from (btw find your videos thoroughly fascinating this being no exception and hope you're doing ok?) by comparison to history here in UK like when its a bit complex so I apologise if this is a bit of a scattered waffled post lol
Rather when you said you got angry rather is still some bitterness in Scotland (most of my ancestry being from there one of which being from Clan Bruce, or House of Bruce as its still often referred to as) about the Highland Clearances why essentially Nova Scotia (Latin for New Scotland) in Canada exists but as I said is a rather complicated thing, some say was a necessary thing from the 1750s until the 1860s at varing points over 110 years, is essentially why the Highlands are mostly deserted now even some came back though.
Didnt help with the potato famine that raviged potato crops during the latter parts of it either, made worse in Ireland due to the gov't treatment of them what probably lead partly at least onto the Easter Rising of 1916 why its Northern Ireland thats part of the UK now, the Unionists who are essentially all former Ullster scots or descendants from them, Ullster Ireland as its called now with the exception of 2 parts of Ullster which arent part of the UK like Donegal being one of them
10:02 Awww, you hit my soft side! So glad you took him in! :)
It's refreshing to see that people who are so brainwashed can actually have logic override it! Right on for having the intelligence to see through all the lies.
I was called a 50 cent army because I wanted to protect my country :/ so here I am searching this up lol
Damnnn😲 You’re smart✨✨ I totally agree that we need to think in others’ shoe, and what has led them to think that way. I’m Japanese and my current BF is Chinese 上海人. We get along fine cuz he’s such a generous person, but I always try to remember that the environment he grew up in and the education he has received are completely different from mine so that we can avoid misunderstandings. BTW, 我喜欢你的猫🐈💕💕
Hey! Came here from Reddit. Very honest and well thought out video. I have been living in China since last year and I appreciate your point of view on the matter. Looking forward to more of your vids.
Great speech! I basically have the same thought process as you. But I don’t feel as patient and optimistic lol. I’m in SH too btw, if we can meet up or something. I would like to have more people like you around.
Thank you for the information!
Very interesting analysis. What you describe happens everywhere. I grew up in Argentina during the Dirty War dictatorship. We were taught WHAT to think not HOW to think. Exposure to opposing viewpoints is the key to rational discussion, and to progress and understanding. Thank you!
Stay safe!!!
I don't support China but I'm glad I can find a person who is willing to have a civilized conversation and explain their point of view rationally and calmly.
I believe in the Wu Mao want to do their job they should use reason like you are, not blind attacks. You're a great guy.
Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering about that subject and this really cleared it up. I'd give this a second thumbs up for the kitty you rescued if I could. 🐈
@Simon Yu
Congratulations on the 3000 subscribers., 👍
Your channel has potential to grow much more.
This was really informative and insightful. Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope others are able to learn from your experience and develop the necessary critical thinking skills to truly improve their country and navigate all the nuanced discussions surrounding complex political issues, like Hong Kong, Taiwan, trade wars with the US, and the various other situations that will surely arise in the future.
I love your commentary since it seems to take a very objective view of those who post to the internet.
Simon, we may not share the same ideology but THANK YOU for saving the kitten. Bless you
Even in the UK you would be a rarity. You see all 3 sides of the argument, you constantly test your own worldview and you grow as a person. That is not that common and the fact you stay in China to discuss and help others grow as well shows your a class bloke keep it up.
You are a very wise and articulate person! I'm encouraged by your perspectives on evaluation and critical thinking, and on your exhortation to not give up on people who have been taught to think differently. Patience in life can go a long way. A wise person once said, "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain an argument (perspective) without accepting it." So many today aren't willing to entertain and process ideas counter to their own. I just found your channel via a serpentza ADV China video. Simon, be encouraged to continue your work on this channel. The world is richer for perspectives like your own! 加油
Young man ,you are very brave OK
Very informative 👍
Easiest way to shut them up: respond to their comments saying "thank you for this information about the tiananmen square massacre, as well providing me your input on the corruption of Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party. I also wholeheartedly agree with you in the fact that Taiwan is it's own independent country" in chinese. Whenever I do this they have 100% left me alone and stopped commenting on posts.
My rule for creating a harmonious society is only post positive remarks, unless there is an error of fault that can be supported by demonstrable evidence or honest personal experience. So, this is a great video, especially since it has a happy ending with a rescued kitten, which is classic UA-cam material.
You upgraded the quality for this one! It's funny how your videos are not polluted by 50 cents army. My theory is because you are "an average Chinese guy" who clearly loves his country and even when you criticize it's in a positive way. Happy to see you are also a cat person. The end of the video reminded me of Jun's kitchen! I wish you the 3 millions subscribers he has! Just a question : you seem to be order than I thought (from your memories). Are you around 30?🤔
Not quite 30, but I am getting there:(
Simon Yu don't worry I thought you were in your early 20s and I'm sure I'm not the only one!😊
Thank you so much for this video. I had heard this term mentioned on China Uncensored but never knew where it came from. Not that only China do it to be fair, I think every country does to a point with some of the better known ones being Israel and Russia. Crazy to hear how many do it for free though. Meanwhile in America most young people trash their own country as much as they can online.
You know what 1450 means in taiwan?google
I just found your channel after looking at your username. New sub!
很聰明，用英文又沒有中文字幕，可以幫你刪除很多不必要的麻煩，因為他們聽不懂，要弄懂太麻煩了，英文說的很好，沒有一些奇怪的腔調，我訂閱了你的頻道了，加油。
对，要是大陆懂他说的，好多会骂死他。
对～ 订阅了
你妈的中国大学英语没过4级拿不到毕业证的懂吗? 。 这英语他们听不懂? 傻逼。哈哈哈哈
Oh, how empathetic you are to that stray cat's needs. Your other cat doesn't seem amused by this new mouth-to-feed... let's hope they bond soon!
This is an awesome analysis and explanation of wu mao and how mainlanders think, thanks for the perspective!
In so many conversations with my Chinese wife whenever she relates discussions that she has had with other Chinese, I find myself routinely asking her: 'well, did you ask why?' She simply accepts what others tell her without any followups, challenges, or even to ask for clarifications. Honestly I don't know how she can be in a conversation without seemingly participating in on such basic level. This video in part explains her behavior. But I sense that if one asks most Chinese why they don't ask why in conversations, they are likely to say that it's not polite.
What do you think about Starlink? Would it make it easier for Chinese people to get more information?
Someone NotKnown we will have to see. FYI: Elon got huge support from Shanghai local government for building the Pudong Tesla factory.
Thank you for your rational thoughts, it made me understand this issue better
Great commentary with lessons applicable to the U.S and many other countries as well as China.
Great video Simon! I can really appreciate your honesty in this video! Thanks for sharing!
Good on you mate, love the rational thoughts and well spoken. Much respect from Sydney Australia.
I really pity Hongkong. It’s really a big mistake done by the British for returning hongkong to mainland China, bet the hongkongers envy singapore for getting the independence. Hongkongers should have been given the chance to choose.
The hongkong older generation failed to fight to give future to the younger generation, and now the younger generation has to pay for the price.
No kidding, Is Singapore a real democratic country ? Please ask Singaporean what if they speak something against the government ! Hong Kong people need democracy , not independence ! Shut up !
I live in Singapore, people are allowed to critic their government. Do you even have Singaporean friends? What are you talking about?
@@xihaha9635 Funny 🤣
Are u Singaporean?
Do you know who is Amos Yee, 16 years old boy criticised Lee Kuan Yew, went to jail twice.
It's not as if Britain really had much of a choice, what with the whole decolonialism thing and all. What should we have done, sent in the navy to bombard Shenzhen on the day of the handover? The forces would have followed those orders to the letter, but the political aftermath would be devastating.
No. We have to fight the myopic ideology, not just try to murder people until they agree with us.
Salute to you! From the philippines!
I am so glad I found your videos Simon. You are a great thinker, an intelligent young man. Love from Canada.
thanks Meleg!
Amazing thanks!
Excellent. Very honest and intelligent explanation. Thank you.
We have a similar background so I hold opinions alike yours. When I was in college I once argued that China's going to surpass the US one day . I was considering the problem mathematically: see our GDP's growing faster than theirs, so the one days should come. Looking back, I wouldn't say it's totally wrong, but it didn't make a lot of sense to say "there will be one day that China will be better than the US". When is that day? Better than the US in what? Is GDP the only thing matter? Usually the problems of countries are much more complex than the a science subject and most things can't be answered by only right or wrong. Chinese education is mostly exam oriented and in a standardized test, there's usually a correct answer, this is so in some subject in Arts like history and Chinese language. So the students are told to remember the "correct answer" and are not given much opportunities to express their opinions or to form their opinions. Habitually, we tend to do the same even when we are out of colleges and when we are discussing politics with people.
It's amusing seeing them bombard any China related topic covered by 7News Australia youtube channel.
Well said.
You just picked up a sub from me sir.
Great job.
I'm proud of you for your honest.
OMG that cat is sooooo cute. Too bad that phase is over really quickly, but mad props to you for being a bro
Thank you for this fantastic video!
I really like your way of thinking! Thanks for this honest and so informative video.
Look, I'm a person who is born in a nation that has freedom and democracy, and I'm proud of it. But please hear me out.
If person A and person B are arguing over an issue, and person A pulled out the whataboutism card, it is clear that person A is stubborn and refuses to admit that he is wrong. However, person A does point out person B's hypocrisy, which means that person B is telling person A off because person A had done something bad, even though person B himself had done the same thing in the past but he didn't say anything about it before criticizing person A. Therefore, person B should admit to person A that he regretted about doing the same bad thing in his past first before telling him off.
This is not about loving your own nation and hating other nation that is different than yours, or being indoctrinated by your government ever since you are young. Whataboutism isn't a commie tactic. It is our human instinct to point out our opponent's hypocrisy when we argue with them. Before you wanna criticize someone's country for whatever bad things their government had done, at least look back at your own country's past and see whether your government had done any bad things too.
The classic Wait you guys get paid meme
Was watching news about China bullying ASEAN countries and oppressing Tibetans and Uyghurs, saw some comments that could be written by the 50 Cent Army. It's infuriating and pitiful at the same time.
Nationalism is genuinely Right Wing.
Really nice to hear from someone who can speak rationally for both sides. I really hope the nationalists will see things like you one day. We don't hate China. We hate the injustice, the brutality, and worst of all, the apathy of the "ends justify means" model the government is taking. Chinese people can be great if only we stop doing things by taking advantage of others, playing victim and making everyone else out to be their enemy. I know it's hard to care about doing anything but the status quo when the competition is so high that people are all struggling to keep up, but come on, we are better than this.