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- The kids suspect that something is wrong with Florida (Esther Rolle) when she shows no sign of sadness during James' wake.
From Season 4, Episode 2 'The Big Move: Part 2' - Following the news of James' passing, everyone begins to worry about Florida who seems to be emotionally unaffected.
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A reminder that people handle grief differently. There were times I didn’t cry until weeks later when it sunk in they were gone.
So true, we all have our own way of grieving when we lose a love one.
It hits you when it hits you. I found out about an ex who died years before, and I was shocked but didn't cry, figuring, ehh... he was just an ex. A few days later, it hit me while I was cooking and I broke down. The brain/heart are weird like that.
I lost my uncle a year ago and I still haven't grieved yet
ITS ALWAYS BETTER TOO WEEP IN PRIVATE
I just think that it hadn't hit her yet. But when it did, you could tell that she was hurt. Plus, she had to stay strong for the community. It would've been very difficult to celebrate the life of James if Florida was constantly crying. She had to be a strong host.
Show was never the same without James.
Got sooooo corny after he left. Only good episodes after were when Penny came and when the momma came back
It got real sit-comy after John Amos left the cast..
Penny and Booger helped out a little😥😥
Yesssss Exactly!!❤
Exactly right
This episode taught us how grief is displayed differently. Everyone doesnt break down immediately or in front of others. I believe Florida was in shock
Or in denial😭
That's how i was when my sister died.
This is a TV show.
This is so real. My family went through this. Each grieved differently, and we each caved in in our own time.
I will never understand why Esther Rolle didn't win an Emmy for this.
Mom Is in shock
She will cry when she is alone
She being strong
Why you talk like caveman?
SOO THAT WHAT IT WAS
Uhhh, ok….
She should have been more in tune and concerned with her children though.
Maybe she could've been more serious then laughing and carried on, that was too much. You're just hiding your feelings if that's what you're doing.
James was a perfect demonstration how a father should be doesn't matter how tough things got James was there taking care of his family
Just like Joe Jackson lol!
@@sdlock83 if you think so
I cry every time I watch this episode. This show was never the same after.
@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety Tv`s greatest FATHER: JOHN AMOS!
Yeah, this was the beginning of the end. 😔 When James died, so did the show.
I totally agree with your comment , everytime I see that episode I say to myself I'm not going to cry 😢 until it gets to the part where Florida is in the kitchen putting away everything and then it happens she finally lets it all out 😢😢😢😢😢😢
People grieve in different ways, different stages & how they want to! Never let anyone tell you how to grieve! Stop thinking screaming, falling out, & hollering is how we all should grieve!
Florida cried when everyone left
Yeap,Damnn Damn Damn
JJ definitely showed his maturity here.
It's a sad moment
Well, he was only 8 years younger than John Amos.
Florida DOES cry. She breaks down but only when SHE is ready. It's extremely sad.
Heritage. So well explained. A celebration of life. Thanks Mrs. Evans.
Florida had to process her grief on her own. I saw this with my mom when my grandmother passed.
This show is so good it makes you care about this family.
Grief hits everyone differently. I can understand the various points of view.
Ditto to that sister!
J.J. was more mature in this episode than the his siblings.
Well he is the oldest
@@sPaCe_NiNjA187 Yeah but if you watch the whole series you know it's still a rarity for him.
@@darkshogun5887 depends on how serious the situation is and this was by far the most serious situation in the series.
Yeah Thelma got on my nerves so bad
@@davidatkins7444I mean that was good acting because some ppl react differently
When James died Good Times died.
The whole idea was to show a black father to America!
Bad Times
@@rockyracoon3233 He was the Dad I wish I had. Mine took off on me.
@RichardM1366 . Sorry to hear that.
@@rockyracoon3233 Thank you. He past away in 2014. We made amends.
When my grandma passed. Everyone cried except for my aunt Rita. she just stared.
Families in households tuned in to Good Times The Big Move one of the saddest episodes ever not having a father at home breaks hearts
I really hated how Thelma was on a rampage to make Florida cry. Sad thing is people do this in real life. Telling people when they can or can’t cry. Leave people alone.
I don’t think Thelma wanted to make her cry she was wondering why Florida was being festive instead of grieving. Thelma and Michael were still too young to understand how and why people felt differently from others when losing a love one. Some people put on a brave front to keep themselves from breaking down in front of others.
She wasn't at fault. To some people, it can be weird that some people don't react by crying to a passing of a loved one cause it is the usual response to it
She was wrong when you see that wife or husband not crying look out because they are hurting more than anyone
SHE DID IT IN THE END THELMA HAD HELP HER UP
People grieve their own way and everyone needs to let them do it their way
this makes me miss my youth and my father
😢😢😢😢🫂🫂
3:44 Thelma was completely unfair. Florida only said that she doesn't need to justify to anyone how she reacts to James' death, including Thelma and Michael. She never said that Thelma and Michael were wrong about how they're reacting. Just that she mourns in her own way. She didn't say Thelma and Michael were wrong about how they reacted.
The only judgey ones in this video are Thelma and Michael. Even J. J. showed an uncharacteristic maturity in accepting how Florida grieves.
It’s ironic that most of the people in this episode have since passed on but John Amos is still alive today.
I think the only ones from the original cast besides John Amos who are still alive are Jimmie Walker, Ralph Carter and Bernadette Stanis.
@@heidimountain606aside from John, the kids are the only cast members alive.
Janet Jackson is still alive and *clears throat*... Norman Lear.
@@jeaustardeau5718 Norman Lear just passed away a trialblazer
That is because John Amos was younger than a lot of the adults on this show.
Florida was the main reason why they were stuck in the ghetto. When James got that high paying job in Alaska Florida didn't want him to go because she said that the kids need their father. But when Florida wanted to go back to school and James said what about the kids the first thing she said that they were practically grown. She always wanted things her way and that's why they got stuck
I never thought of it that way, how heartbreaking
I agree also
Florida didn't want them to get stuck in the ghetto. The children didn't want to move to Alaska. Also, there wasn't anything wrong with Florida going back to school to improve herself. You got it wrong!
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc First of all james said He was the only one that was going to Alaska.. Not the whole family. He will go there and send money back home. Then they can probably find a house. And second of all, I'd never said that there was nothing wrong with florida going back to school. I said every time She wants to do something Then the kids are always grown.
I agree
I loved this show....i used to come home and watch it every afternoon when i got out of school
2:22 J.J. can always try to bring a smile to your face and R.I.P James
I don’t want anyone crying or feeling sad neither.
I want folks to turn up the music, eat & drink and be merry.
After my wife of 10 yrs thid episode came on tv I couldnt stop crying with this episode still miss her every day 😇
Truth. Don't mourn the death, celebrate the life.
@@mariellclement8092 Absolutely 😉
Exactly I want people to have fun and make it a party and talk about how crazy and funny etc I was....
@@AprilLittleman Yep! I'll even pre-arrange the Repast. Let the liquor flow. The drinks are alllll on me.
2:47
I cry at stop signs!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nothing will ever be what it once was. 😢
they did John Amos dirty
they most certainly did, I encourage everybody to look it up
Amos got himself fired when he couldn't control his temper.
Dwight man is terrified of the black man leading a good family structure like James Evans did his family. That's why they had to get rid of him
He was fired for wanting to focus more on the children being positive and not stereotypical. It is sad and just shows they only wanted to show black in particularly low ways. At that point none of the writers were black.
I so Agree
The mom just trying to be strong for her kids but couldn’t nomore until it sunk in
Our dad died on my 10th birthday. I cried then, and haven’t stopped since.
I have stopped celebrating on my birthday….
Same thing happened in dallas with miss ellie after jock died.
You people do understand this is make believe, right? “Gilligan said the exact same thing!l”
I love ❤️ Good Times it’s is my favorite tv 📺 shows ever and ever.
Florida had to deal with grief her own way. It took nearly 2 years for me to actually grieve my grandma & it took me 9 years to begin grieving my dad. People handle grief & loss differently
The celebrating the life of the person rather than mourning the person at the wake in actually in many cultures around the globe. Esther Rolle was a truly talented actress. This episode showed her acting skill because she had to go from being the good hostess to finally letting herself feel the lost of James. Shows in the 70s were often a lot more like plays than they are now.
Some people mourn different
If this didn’t break your heart your not human.
Now John Amos is really gone. This episode will definitely hit different.
I know they’re kids but they need to understand that people are not the same, and they handle grief differently. All that pestering about her needing to outwardly show how she feels is only gonna lead to an emotional breakdown honestly. I’d understand if Flo was trying to pretend that James never existed and was bottling up her feelings, but her needing to emulate a certain reaction to prove she really cared about him is just ridiculous.
I've seen both sides of the equation, we all grieved over a passed aunt, her daughter was probably the most composed of everyone. I was impressed and concerned all at the same time. But one thing in common we all missed her.
DAMN DAMN DAMN! Grief hits people differently; course we all know the epic ending to this one so buckle tf up and hang on for dear life!
People in the comment section have no sympathy or empathy for Thelma or Michael, they're young and just lost their father and don't understand how grief works in children.
Well said.
Trust me she's hurting like crazy people
Jimmy Walker's like..."ok I'm going to go chop some onions to make myself cry in this scene since I'm not really an actor"
The cast wasn't especially close irl so Jimmy probably really doesn't need help fake crying
They need to understand James friends are thinking of the good times they had with James it alright to be sad about a Lost of a family member enjoy the life and the fun you had with them until you meet again
Thelma, was great in her emotions! great acting!!!
This hits different now that John Amos has died RIP JOHN AMOS
I have preached funerals and one preached in Washington Court House Ohio I remember when all the people were sad and I thought to myself how can I bring them some joy knowing that this one is at a much better place there in Heaven so I brought up this story and all at once instead of tears coming right down there eyes they were in joy laughing and the moral of this story is even still they were in tears for the lost that they lost right here on Earth they knew that he was in Heaven smiling
I didn't know James died during the series.
Yup, A car accident
Me neither
Contract issues
Thelma looks like she's going to work at the department store perfume counter.
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Norman lear killed James Evans .. thanks eric monte for everything your a true television pioneer
I think for Florida James death didn't really hit her until later, her husband didn't come back and the rose reminded her of him
RIP JOHN AMOS 🙏🙏🙏
The only funny part of this episode was willona singing about the hams
01:39 BULL! Surviving family members and friends do not laugh and shout happily when a family member is killed in an accident! This is terrible writing by Norman Lear and his writing team. Despite Florida's triple cursing at the end, the relatives of both parents should have been there to give heartfelt consolation to the bereaved family. This scene could have done much better. Norman Lear was quite happy to fire John Amos and it shows.
She was a old school black woman this is 1970s Chicago nuff said.
Nobody can out act the actors of this era
One thing to remember is everyone mourns in their own special kind of way. My father died three years ago. My heart broke into a million pieces. I cried for my mother when she cried at the hospital. It will always hurt me and my mother and my sister. My mother doesn't hurt more or less than me just in a different way.
Just find out that the real life John Amos died August 21, but mentioned to the world on October 1. RIP damn damn damn
what a great show this was
RIH AKA Rest In Heaven, John Amos aka James Evans
My sister is disabled and has never been able to cry unless she is in pain. But with emotional pain she can't cry. Even when we lost our mother and father she didn't cry.
We knew she was suffering though.
This episode show the talent of Good Times cast and the raw emotions that brought it out. I hated it when they killed of his character.
😢 Rip john Amos 🙏🏿
Rip John
show the entire episode
James was cheating *that is the last scene *damn damn damn *watch episode
Just because a person doesn't show it emotionally on the outside , they are crying on the inside . Be patient , their tears will surface , give it time . Been there many times , so I know .
This was by far the best acting performance by Thelma on any of the episodes on Good Times, surprise she didn’t get major opportunity after this episode.
The best mom ever.....Florida is a rare mother
Sorry. The one time I thought Florida was wrong. These are her children and they’re sad. That’s all that matters and Florida didn’t grow up in Africa.
Nice how blacks are African when it's convient.
1:51 Amen!!! You don't mourn the death you celebrate the life they lived while they were here with us ❤️👏😭🔥💯🎯
The acting was very good here.
2:50 😂😂😂 WE ALL NEED JJ RN
It’s what I grew up on. My… how times have changed.
3:43 3:44 3:45 3:46 I’m Talking About Our Mother, JJ, 3:48 Daddy Is Dead
Some people grieve in different ways. This is how it was back in the day. People didn’t know how to just be them themselves. They had to be forced to do something. They didn’t want to do. These children didn’t understand why their mother was not emotional about her husband being killed, but we know better now and this is a program now a good episode.
I agree about celebrating the deceased person's life!
And Flo was written out of the next season
Esther Rolle quit because she was disappointed with the show's storylines.
Florida got a good point. Whatever you believe in, we celebrate the life they lived, not cry about their death. We cry because our whoever is no longer with us.
In the Christian faith, I believe that loved ones who no longer with us, we shall see them again in glory.
How can you NOT have shown the most powerful scene of all when she smashes the punchbowl ???
3:18 Ohh JJ, How Could You Standing And Laughing, 3:20 3:21 I Mean They’re Also Like They’re Having A BALL OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 3:23 3:24 You Gotta Laugh That Drying Out That Wanda’s Crying Anyway
Perfect buildup for ‘damn damn damn!!’ Shortly after.
There's no "wrong" way to grieve.
I dont know why Thelma just didn’t leave Alabama alone . Let her grieve in her own way, she will cry and let it out in her own time NOT yours
Everyone is gone in my family. Accept older sister with special needs. Hardest part of death is after everyone leaves than it hits you
I 😢still sadly feel for Florida(the late Esther Rolle) J.J.(Jimmie Walker) Micheal(Ralph Carter) & Thelma(Bernnadette Stanis)---I know it,s just an old tv show but it,s too bad I just jump through the tv & back into time & just give the Evans family & hug & my condolences!! Silly isn,t?!
James became the owner of a burger chain joint competing against McDonald's in New York.
1:50 Even though it was proven to be a brave front at the end, I really do wish Florida’s “perspective” about celebrating the life instead of mourning was more common.
Flo clearly was still in shock and trying to be strong when, in reality, breaking down inside
What Ms. Florida said was true, not only in Africa but in New Orleans. They actually have a small parade for the deceased with a horn section and drums. They celebrate the life.
First time I've seen the other part of they're apt
Mayans M.C. It’s a great show from blue pictures television.
I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW THIS SHOW LASTED 3 MORE YEAR'S AFTER ACTOR JOHN AMOSE'S CHARACTER JAMES EVAN'S SR. WAS KILLED OFF ACTOR JOHN AMOS HE MADE THE SHOW SOME OF THE FUNNIEST LINE'S FROM THE SHOW
I agree that everyone mourns in their own way but I’m not against Thelma. She’s just a child trying to understand what’s going on. She just doesn’t get why Florida doesn’t show obvious grief.
She was in shock 😮
The show took a noise dive after john amos was fired. 😢
She just trying to stay busy
I like John Amos, but all James did was yell, and I was glad they got him off the show for that, If you notice, Thelma and J.J. yelling at each other decreased greatly after his departure. With the departure of James, Wilona's character developed greatly, and I thought she was terrific.
This must have been the episode they ended his character after he was fired from the show.....