On my 4th trip to Scotland in April 2024 I visited Mull, Skye, Raasay. It was quite the adventure! A lot of single track roads with blind curves and pot holes. While visiting Ardnamurchan I stayed at Mingary Castle which was awesome!
To answer your Jura a question: No. Recently had the 7 oak and 18 (and 12 and NAS but those weren't even finished) side by side and prefered the 7 oak immensely. Thought I got the best of Jura, but I regret having bought the bottle for 40 euros having tried it at home and sober. I'll probably blend it away in heavy sherry or peat over time.
it should definitely be a region and a big fat yes to your top 5 worst whiskies as Ian's reactions are priceless, great watch guys very funny episode .
I once overheard a lady in a liquor store asking for a bottle of Jura because "it's her husband's favourite"....it took all my self control to prevent the whisky-geek in me from jumping in and reccomending something better! I wondered if hubby is secretly drain-pouring the gift Juras and doesn't have the heart to tell his wife to stop buying them for him...😂😅 We definitely want to see Ian try Black Rod again and all the other crappy drain-pours you can find😝!
I don't wanna be a know-it-all but Ian was a bit over the place talking about wood chemicals. You can't say that you have phenols AND guaiacyls. When you take a look at lignin you see that it's mainly made from 3 different phenyl-propane units. One of them is coniferyl-alcohol which has a phenolic structure of which guaiacyl is a part of.
I like the concept of an Island region even though the distance between Arran and Orkney or Lewis is massive it would work better than trying to subdivide it further. Arran is effectively geographically closer to Lowland or Campbeltown than any other islander. Jura would probably jump at the chance to be lumped in with Islay. As far as I’m aware there are now 3 on Orkney (HP, Scapa and Deerness). As far as the rest go you would probably need to call them “Hebridean” or something taking in Skye, Mull, Raasay, Lewis, Harris, Uist, Barra and Tiree as there seems to be quite a few of these island gin producers branching out into single malt with a stash of casks soon coming of age.
Islands def should be its own region. Talisker and Tobermory stand out for me. Talisker had this richness that really hits the spot. Loving the Wilder Seas bottle atm its aged in Cognac cask. Love this podcast and good to see Ian back and cracking jokes always makes me laugh.
Visited the Outer Hebrides in 2019 and also had a tour at Abhainn Dearg. Their 3yo is horrible and the 10yo (at 46%) is ok... but I really enjoy the 10yo CS. Tried quite a few of them (PX, Madeira,...). Compared to Abhainn Dearg, Springbank looks like Macallan 😅. And they do everything on their own...+ they use malt & peat from the island. So my point is if you want to try it, buy one of their cask strength releases :-)
Other possible regions could be Hebrides which could be broken down into inner and outer, Skye (including Raasay), Banffshire, Aberdeenshire, Dufftown, Keith, Fife etc.
Hey guys! I was at my local pub (the Pot Still).... and one of my fave Bartenders suggested that I should try Abhainn dearg (Oran) as it was Unique! I tried the PX Golden Promise Cask Strength. I thought it was interesting! Certainly not worth the price, but there was a weird Praline element. (I have found that with other Golden promise whiskies). I suspect, that if wood policy improves it would get better. The bartender in question had to beg Frank to get one bottle for the pub and.... it is a very divisive thing to it.
@@IanBear1000 Is this posh scotch?! Love the Pot Still! I love their staff. I am often there or at the SMWS Bath Street. Both are outstanding. And it makes a difference if you know the staff. They will bring out great suggestions.
I once tore through quite a lot of small bottle of Journey on an overnight sleeper train from Aberdeen to Kent. It was drinkable but uninspiring. Wouldn’t buy for myself.
cambeltown is classified as a distillery on account of its historical importance for whisky plus the fact it had three regions. To my mind, The West Coast would be a better region to include islands plus the likes of Ardna., Oban, Ben nevis etc.
Having watched this episode and the Dalmore one back to back. Whyte & MacKay have taken a hammering. Two fantastic rants by Posh Scotch. And a lot of whisky in the bin!!! 😮😂 I agree that the islands should have a regional category but in the same breath think that what’s on offer from each distillery is so unique to them that it doesn’t really matter. 🤔🤯 Another great episode.
Hi gent's. Thanks for another great episode. Island should be stated on the bottle as a origin! I personally love Torabhaig & Ledaig. And really DON'T understand how is the Jura became to best selling single malt whisky in the UK!? Never tried an official release from them that I like in full.
again a great and fun episode. highland park and talisker are my go to island distillery's. love them both. the lediag sinclair rioja is also very nice. love to try the 22 px. but the price is to high for me.
Awesome podcast guys but really do prefer Ian on the show. More aligned to my palate preference plus the three of you just works better in my shitty opinion. Keep it up guys.
I don’t know how you get a bottle of 22 Ledaig for 200 quid. There’s nothing like that in the US, you can barely get the 18 for under $200. I purchased a 20cl bottle of 25yo Ledaig hand-filled distillery exclusive direct from Tobermory for $120 which my London friends just brought with them across the pond. The 70cl bottle was 400 quid. I was happy with the price I paid, still am. Just wish it was more accessible in the US. For 200 that 22yo Ledaig is an OOSH all day everyday, CAUSE IM AN ISLAND BOY!!!!
Very fun episode! I would also throw in a vote for a “worst whiskies” edition. Trashing both Elon Musk and Nigel Farage, I knew I liked you guys for a reason 😂 Cheers!
Highland Park can’t be included in other Islands can it? As crow flies Jura & Islay are roughly 255 miles from Orkney Mad to think Cambletown to Bushmills is only 40 miles. They should leave the Regions alone unless Distilleries demand it.
Tried the Abhainn Dearg on a backpacking tour to Lewis in 2019 before I even drank much whisky so can't really remember what it was like but sounds like that's a good thing! Was also my first distillery tour but don't remember seeing a Tesla anyway. Looks like the backpacking tour company go to Harris distillery now
Jura reminds me of Bowmore in that all the OB bottles are awful, but it gets really good in IB land. Not as spectacular as Bowmore, but it’s clear the distillery is fucking their own bottles up for an unknown reason. Did try one, Jura 20yr One and All, delicious wine-matured bottle - could be a good one to put in a non-Sherry wine-aged episode…
Correct about Claton. Orkney has 4 whisky distilleries so is it a region? I'll give Jura a bit of defence. I've drank worse from Edradour (single cask variations are just huge) and the 18yo isn't a bad whisky.
Does it really matter these days? Every region is producing different whiskies nowadays. Peated in Speyside, Sherry in Islay, Triple distilled in the Highlands. Regions are no longer known for their specific styles of whiskies.
Uist now has two distilleries. Will it get a third??? I think history has to come into it when it comes to being a region like Campbeltown and Lowland when they went down to two. Other islands or closely linked islands could maybe become a region decades later after the Islands region has been around for a bit. It might all break down if there are too many regions though which some might think is not that bad a thing…
Side note. I'd drink Jura 10yo before going near Glenlivet Captain's reserve or Penderyn Maderia cask. Easily two of the crappest bottles I've ever tried. And I'll go further, I'd buy it before Dalmore 18yo, the single most disappointing whisky ever. Ever!!!!!!!
I agree the Jura 10 is not good but the 12 is so much better. The 14yr old rye cask really is a nice dram and has taken me by surprise by how much i do enjoy it. Jura CAN produce good whiskies and why the hell they discontinued the old line up in 2018 and replaced it with the present one will be a mystery to me forever as it definitely was a step backwards. But, I'm not giving up on Jura as I said they can produce good whisky and the 14yr old is hopefully the start of them getting serious.
Jake - the third Island Boy. Great episode fellas, pro Island category here!
@@JeffWhisky We want the Island Category!
DEFINITELY an episode on the Top 5 WORST whiskies you’ve tried is needed!! Got my vote
On my 4th trip to Scotland in April 2024 I visited Mull, Skye, Raasay. It was quite the adventure! A lot of single track roads with blind curves and pot holes. While visiting Ardnamurchan I stayed at Mingary Castle which was awesome!
@@ErikWaitWhiskyStudies I thought it's hard to get to Ardnamurchan until I drove to Nc'Nean 😅. Cannot recommend 😄😅
To answer your Jura a question: No. Recently had the 7 oak and 18 (and 12 and NAS but those weren't even finished) side by side and prefered the 7 oak immensely. Thought I got the best of Jura, but I regret having bought the bottle for 40 euros having tried it at home and sober. I'll probably blend it away in heavy sherry or peat over time.
it should definitely be a region and a big fat yes to your top 5 worst whiskies as Ian's reactions are priceless, great watch guys very funny episode .
😅😅😅
I once overheard a lady in a liquor store asking for a bottle of Jura because "it's her husband's favourite"....it took all my self control to prevent the whisky-geek in me from jumping in and reccomending something better! I wondered if hubby is secretly drain-pouring the gift Juras and doesn't have the heart to tell his wife to stop buying them for him...😂😅
We definitely want to see Ian try Black Rod again and all the other crappy drain-pours you can find😝!
😮😮😮
I don't wanna be a know-it-all but Ian was a bit over the place talking about wood chemicals. You can't say that you have phenols AND guaiacyls. When you take a look at lignin you see that it's mainly made from 3 different phenyl-propane units. One of them is coniferyl-alcohol which has a phenolic structure of which guaiacyl is a part of.
I am not a scientist 😂
@@IanBear1000 Neither am I but I had to suffer through several courses on this topic at university 😅
I like the concept of an Island region even though the distance between Arran and Orkney or Lewis is massive it would work better than trying to subdivide it further. Arran is effectively geographically closer to Lowland or Campbeltown than any other islander. Jura would probably jump at the chance to be lumped in with Islay. As far as I’m aware there are now 3 on Orkney (HP, Scapa and Deerness). As far as the rest go you would probably need to call them “Hebridean” or something taking in Skye, Mull, Raasay, Lewis, Harris, Uist, Barra and Tiree as there seems to be quite a few of these island gin producers branching out into single malt with a stash of casks soon coming of age.
Hebridean would certainly have a good ring!
Islands def should be its own region. Talisker and Tobermory stand out for me. Talisker had this richness that really hits the spot. Loving the Wilder Seas bottle atm its aged in Cognac cask. Love this podcast and good to see Ian back and cracking jokes always makes me laugh.
Visited the Outer Hebrides in 2019 and also had a tour at Abhainn Dearg. Their 3yo is horrible and the 10yo (at 46%) is ok... but I really enjoy the 10yo CS. Tried quite a few of them (PX, Madeira,...). Compared to Abhainn Dearg, Springbank looks like Macallan 😅. And they do everything on their own...+ they use malt & peat from the island.
So my point is if you want to try it, buy one of their cask strength releases :-)
Other possible regions could be Hebrides which could be broken down into inner and outer, Skye (including Raasay), Banffshire, Aberdeenshire, Dufftown, Keith, Fife etc.
I think all Speysides and Campbeltowns could call themselves Highland…
Brenne french whisky for the top 5 worst. If you need the specific bottle I have a picture somewhere.
I agree! Awful 😢
Hey guys! I was at my local pub (the Pot Still).... and one of my fave Bartenders suggested that I should try Abhainn dearg (Oran) as it was Unique!
I tried the PX Golden Promise Cask Strength. I thought it was interesting! Certainly not worth the price, but there was a weird Praline element. (I have found that with other Golden promise whiskies).
I suspect, that if wood policy improves it would get better.
The bartender in question had to beg Frank to get one bottle for the pub and.... it is a very divisive thing to it.
Pot still is ace 🎉
@@IanBear1000 Is this posh scotch?!
Love the Pot Still! I love their staff.
I am often there or at the SMWS Bath Street.
Both are outstanding. And it makes a difference if you know the staff. They will bring out great suggestions.
My friend likes Jura, but we don't talk to him much!
I once tore through quite a lot of small bottle of Journey on an overnight sleeper train from Aberdeen to Kent. It was drinkable but uninspiring. Wouldn’t buy for myself.
@@edfriday7709 I shouldn't be so unkind to Jura since it was probably that dram that got me into whisky but I quickly moved on!
cambeltown is classified as a distillery on account of its historical importance for whisky plus the fact it had three regions. To my mind, The West Coast would be a better region to include islands plus the likes of Ardna., Oban, Ben nevis etc.
Having watched this episode and the Dalmore one back to back. Whyte & MacKay have taken a hammering. Two fantastic rants by Posh Scotch. And a lot of whisky in the bin!!! 😮😂
I agree that the islands should have a regional category but in the same breath think that what’s on offer from each distillery is so unique to them that it doesn’t really matter. 🤔🤯
Another great episode.
Hi gent's. Thanks for another great episode. Island should be stated on the bottle as a origin! I personally love Torabhaig & Ledaig. And really DON'T understand how is the Jura became to best selling single malt whisky in the UK!? Never tried an official release from them that I like in full.
I think you guys should do a top 5 worst whiskies episode 😅
Hot ones style.
More glorious rants from Ian please hahaha
Any time 😂
Ian is 100% correct
I try 😂
@@IanBear1000 Are the three of you on X?
@@canahmet8214 I am but barely use it - mostly Instagram and threads
Isn’t Lochranza Highland and Lagg Lowland? Glengoyne distilled in Highlands and warehouses in Lowland.
Ah. I see you got to that highland boundary line through Arran thing….
again a great and fun episode.
highland park and talisker are my go to island distillery's. love them both.
the lediag sinclair rioja is also very nice.
love to try the 22 px. but the price is to high for me.
We should all chip and buy Ian a great bottle if he goes through an episode of tasting the five worst drams while also wearing those shorts.
I am very much looking forward to the Top 5 worst whisky episode.
I believe the distillery was called Ledaig and changed its name to Tobermory.
Arran + Jack = The Sequel!
I like the watch collection;-)
I got the reference 😂 brap brap. Ledaig ftw!
Awesome podcast guys but really do prefer Ian on the show. More aligned to my palate preference plus the three of you just works better in my shitty opinion. Keep it up guys.
I don’t know how you get a bottle of 22 Ledaig for 200 quid. There’s nothing like that in the US, you can barely get the 18 for under $200. I purchased a 20cl bottle of 25yo Ledaig hand-filled distillery exclusive direct from Tobermory for $120 which my London friends just brought with them across the pond. The 70cl bottle was 400 quid. I was happy with the price I paid, still am. Just wish it was more accessible in the US.
For 200 that 22yo Ledaig is an OOSH all day everyday, CAUSE IM AN ISLAND BOY!!!!
Very fun episode! I would also throw in a vote for a “worst whiskies” edition.
Trashing both Elon Musk and Nigel Farage, I knew I liked you guys for a reason 😂 Cheers!
Have been over the island a few times and stayed twice, once in Mull but didn’t have opportunity to visit the distillery. Must get round to it…
Jura is the biggest selling single malt in the UK believe it or not. I share your opinion on the quality of what they put out there, but there ya go!
Jura sucks, though I hear the 13YO Cadenhead's did finished in Manzanilla was decent too.
Highland Park can’t be included in other Islands can it?
As crow flies Jura & Islay are roughly 255 miles from Orkney
Mad to think Cambletown to Bushmills is only 40 miles.
They should leave the Regions alone unless Distilleries demand it.
Tried the Abhainn Dearg on a backpacking tour to Lewis in 2019 before I even drank much whisky so can't really remember what it was like but sounds like that's a good thing! Was also my first distillery tour but don't remember seeing a Tesla anyway. Looks like the backpacking tour company go to Harris distillery now
Isn’t there technically a distinction between ‘areas’ and regions’? I can’t quite be bothered googling as it’s arbitrary to some degree.
They are already according to most. The SWA are an outlier in this regard.
Jura reminds me of Bowmore in that all the OB bottles are awful, but it gets really good in IB land. Not as spectacular as Bowmore, but it’s clear the distillery is fucking their own bottles up for an unknown reason. Did try one, Jura 20yr One and All, delicious wine-matured bottle - could be a good one to put in a non-Sherry wine-aged episode…
Correct about Claton. Orkney has 4 whisky distilleries so is it a region? I'll give Jura a bit of defence. I've drank worse from Edradour (single cask variations are just huge) and the 18yo isn't a bad whisky.
LMAO you guys crack me up. Love it
“Island boys 🎶” 😂
After a day of drinking finally the “I love jugs” 😂
Does it really matter these days? Every region is producing different whiskies nowadays. Peated in Speyside, Sherry in Islay, Triple distilled in the Highlands. Regions are no longer known for their specific styles of whiskies.
Uist now has two distilleries. Will it get a third??? I think history has to come into it when it comes to being a region like Campbeltown and Lowland when they went down to two. Other islands or closely linked islands could maybe become a region decades later after the Islands region has been around for a bit. It might all break down if there are too many regions though which some might think is not that bad a thing…
It could get silly with multiple small regions but I think an Islands region or sub region would now be reasonable.
Island boys be kissing each other lately lmao. Lookin forward to this one
Why not just treat it like Speyside. Not every Island whisky is an Islay but every Islay is also an Island whisky.
Side note. I'd drink Jura 10yo before going near Glenlivet Captain's reserve or Penderyn Maderia cask. Easily two of the crappest bottles I've ever tried. And I'll go further, I'd buy it before Dalmore 18yo, the single most disappointing whisky ever. Ever!!!!!!!
Take it you guys dont like jura 😂
Jake don't ever do that island boy thing again!!!
Jura is the absolute worst. I can't think which i hate more. Jura or Bowmore. I know someone who loves Jura. I don't talk to them anymore. Lmao
I agree the Jura 10 is not good but the 12 is so much better. The 14yr old rye cask really is a nice dram and has taken me by surprise by how much i do enjoy it. Jura CAN produce good whiskies and why the hell they discontinued the old line up in 2018 and replaced it with the present one will be a mystery to me forever as it definitely was a step backwards. But, I'm not giving up on Jura as I said they can produce good whisky and the 14yr old is hopefully the start of them getting serious.