Subscribe if you liked this video and interested in showing this setup vs all other affinities. Thanks! If you are finding problems, i also do account takeovers on this setup. Try to get PK to be a bit less hp than SLOW target but more DEF. The idea is that after the heal comes the target with the lowest HP% should be always the SLOW target . If it's not then you need to change health and def values.
Thanks for this! MurderInc hinted to a similar setup, but with Gnarlhorn as guy who sucks up the stuns. This makes more sense as it uses champions you already have (in your case Kael). But please provide speeds for a NM setup! Low Spender/F2P Setups a lot of times also means that they don't reach UNM yet.
Amazing video. You have revolutionised my F2P clan boss set-up! Huge credit to the Russian guy who discovered this trick too. I only have speed gear high enough to do this on Brutal so have been working tirelessly to work out the relevant speeds for this. Please see below if this is useful to anybody else (thank you to Deadwood Jedi for his AMAZING calculator, you should all check this out guys): Maneater: spd 219 (3 sets with LoS) Painkeeper: spd 204 (2 sets with LoS) DPS1: spd 158 (no sets, but in Lifesteal) DPS2: spd 109 (no sets, but in Lifesteal) Stun Soak: spd 104 (no sets, no Lifesteal) For some reason if you make DPS2 faster then it messes up the turn order for CB/ME/PK, so unfortunately DPS2 also needs to be very slow. Calculator seems to work for anything from 105 to 109. I just went the full 50 rounds with this set-up. Only managed 10m because my DPSers are still a bit noobish (all only 5* champs and unreliable poisoners), but it’s still my best ever output! Please like this comment to bump it up for others go see.
Richard Russell, it took me a while to get this working properly. You have to be very specific with HP levels to get it to work right. The stun soak needs to be highest HP (mine was 34k) and have as low defense as possible. Maneater should be next highest (i have 33.5k) but stack a lot more on defence to make sure stun soak loses HP much faster in the early rounds. PK then has about 30k ish (to make sure her A2 heals enough in early rounds), also try to make her defence higher than soaker. The 2 DPS can have any low amount of HP. The lower the better, since this will stop them draining too much from ME when he does his A3, they don’t need defence since their lifesteal will top them up for any lost HP.. It will eventually work mate, just keep testing your set-up and rebalancing HP if the stun goes to the wrong place. Remember to disconnect your internet if it messes up so that you don’t lose a key!
Interestingly enough, these speeds are also working for me on NM too. I have absolutely no idea why they work, but i’m not going to complain 😂 i’m almost into 3-key territory for NM!
You are still one of my favorite content creators. I see so many of the others showing off teams that most people will never have. Yea it is easy to do what they do when you have some of the top characters. Thanks for all you do.
The best unkillable team I've ever seen - super simple and very accessible the only problem for me is that not only the game is giving ZERO counter-attack champs, but no maneater as well once that day comes I'll go straight to this video
This is exactly what i've been looking for. was trying one maeater-3PK but the damage just wasnt there. now it will be gravechil and banshe duo and a lucky guy with both of them
hey guys, I tried with bulkward without frozen banshee (equal setup of FB) against CB red...and It works!!! 22.5M damage...but remember to set kael as leader....thanks again Cold Brew, you are a master!!!
This might be stupid question, but doesn't the Frozen Banshee use her A2 on auto and therefore screws the combo up? I have run this exact speed setup now a few times and it does not work since my Maneater at some point dies to the boss (he never gets stunned, but loses the unkillable and dies). And since PE and ME have exactly the speed recommended in here the only other explanation that I can find is the Frozen Banshee A2, or am I missing something here?
Khaldor my hero (hots fan) :p This could be because you run this in NM instead of UNM ? Maybe having lore of steel with not the appropriate amount of speed sets, or maybe you dont have lore of Steel ? Did you make sure you don't have any turn meter acceleration masterie on your ME and PK ? Sorry to tell you obvious stuff I know you are a smart boy but you know , sometimes we miss small things :p Edit : there is also the green CB with decrease speed debuff maybe that s what screwed your runs
Lol. I literally just saw that Russian video Yesterday and was about to do it myself. Had a hard time getting the details In order, cause it was in Russian. Now you make it In english. Great timing. Thanks!!😊👍
@@Ken-lk1ge Thanks! Planning on it. Already have them in ls. Just a matter of redoing masteries and getting spd and hp sorted. 😅 Also have 2nd FB and Gravechill in the works for Spirit. Viz and Rhaz are disappointing on that one
Do you have the stat requirements if i wanted to do this on nightmare? My clan doesnt hit unm yet but itd be nice to 1-2 key nightmare with this team if possible
Thx man, according this video, finally I can create my first unkillable UNM CB team. With low damage, but first the timeing is the important, later I tune the DPS
This video just made ME subscribe. Thanks a lot, great job. Just wondering hence i have all champs required for this team but my clan îs not currently doing ultra nightmare, can i use these setup with mentioned speeds and HP for just nightmare? Or the speed for nightmare must be reduced?
Thank you for explaining the painkeeper issue/bug, was wondering why my 3 painkeeper n maneater comp was no longer working on auto but was fine on manual
Mad vid cold, I’ll try this out, I got the me 3pks but not much damage as no draco, my ca team is running like their legs are tied lately not doing anywhere near the damage and doing cb doing 15m or so when I was doing 20s is depressing and putting me off the whole thing. Thanks for the in-depth analyst!
Fantastic guide Coldbrew, thankyou! Would a BEK work as one of the damage dealers? Or could his heals throw out the slam/stun rotation? Thanks again dude, you have a new subscriber and fan in me!
although i have not tried it i believe his heals will throw out the rotation, although since his heals heal when the turn is taken its possible that everyone else is full hp% and the SLOW target is not so he will always get stunned
I would like to try that on nightmare, what would be the speed for the champs? Is it also working with counterattack like martyr or skullcrusher or will it mess up the rotation?
I wanted to know the same things about nightmare. But for the counterattack i can tell you that it wont work since Painkeeper's A1 (that boosts her turn meter) will cause her to get out of sync. For nightmare it SHOULD be that you can substract 10 speed from everyone, but i can't be sure.
Does this work on full auto from the start on? Recently pulled a maneater and already had a painkeeper so I would like to try it. Btw is it possible with painkeeper on 5 stars? Just the speed and the hp (and def too?) has to be the right amount, right?
Got it running but my Pk gets out of sync slightly meaning the buffs aren’t up on the 2nd aoe, same numbers and masteries. Maybe I need to rid lore of steel not sure. I’m also using norog as lead as aother isn’t done yet, kael is tanking though when pk has higher hp at start. I’ll keep looking, see if I can figure it out it’s an awesome idea! Not sure speed, but norog passive probs throwing it out. Ran again not sure why pk goes again before bosses 2nd aoe and loses her buffs, the aoe ends up killing her
Update: Finally got it working! It’s beautiful to watch. Upped kaels hp lowered defence, had to drop PK speed to 239 as with lore is 239.48 or something with the calculation just need to boost Aothar with acc banner and assend him, did 19.8m or something great start! Thanks heaps cold helping heaps of people with this vid. What you said about kael’s healed % is what made me think how to get it to work. Will replace him with someone else once I get it tweaked, maybe try armiger as he 60 and mastered ready to go see what damage he can do for me
did somehting change lately? For like 2 days now boss is hitting more often my maneater and even managed to hit my poisoners. About two days ago everything was great. Any ideas? Oh and i am talknig about nightmare setup
@@luismedel710 I don't believe so. He needs to be at a specific speed to keep him protected, so if he goes over by a bit I think he loses the unkillable buff... But my question is, is there an acceptable range or does it need to be exact like PK and ME?
Question...i have my speeds/ hp / def correct but not always go till turn 50. Sometimes it goes less than 20. What is the issue on this? Thanks in advance.
Turn twelve of the CB my pain keeper is always targeted and slammed dead. got all stats the same except running an occult brawler instead of an Aothar. Any ideas?
I have 255 SPD on ManEater and 241 on Painkeeper and the problem is she can't keep up with cooldown reduction, do I have to have exactly 254/241 SPD or should I raise SPD on PainKeeper to allow her to keep up with her CD reduction?
Cannot seem to get this to work. My speeds are all right on. My health is a little more than the 32k. Does the health need to be exactly where you laid it out?
What are your thoughts about Skullcrusher taking the stun always? Curious if him throwing up CA plus having his own unkillable would be a decent alternative. Ofc his CA rotation will be thrown off by PK reducing the CD, so there's probably some other tuning that needs to happen.
@@ColdBrewGaming I watched your recent vid on Sir Nick (I have him and ME) and he's just such a disaster with his A2 and set-up. I'd rather get this set up so I can use Nick elsewhere. Maybe I will try Bulwark as the stun taker so he can extend poisons. My thought with Skullcrusher is that I'd run him, OB, and Banshee, and they'd be able to keep poisons + warmaster going with the CA.
@@ColdBrewGaming Yup, still not working. Is it because of the AI fix they implemented a couple of days ago to stop tricking the AIN into attacking a specific champ in a setup perhaps?
nice video, i want to try this with Juliana instead of Aothar but something went wrong the first few rounds go like in the video after hitting auto in about 2-3 turns all were killed... could be the lore of steel with a speed set on her? speed is the same for all the champions def and hp almost the same +/-
I'm curious how the set up would work with a Counter Champion. The team I am considering would be: Maneater, Painkeeper, Occult Brawler, Frozen Banshee, Martyr.
Amazing video! Though I have a question, is it necessary for maneater and pain keeper to have over 250 speed? Isn't ok to just be able to go before the cb does?
@@ColdBrewGaming I thought Maneater had a 4 turn cooldown with books on his A3. I was wrong, it was actually 5 turns. Thanks for responding, i would not have realized otherwise haha
Any chance you could do this team with ME, PK, Frozen Banshee, and Bulwark or Septimus? I am having a heck of a time getting counter attack to work with this.
Ran this 7 times always failed by turn 15 at the latest. Man eater is 37.221 hp, 2635def, 255 speed. PK 50.352hp , 1647 def 240 spd. Occult 32.099hp, 1642 def, 189 spd. FB 32.991 hp, 2415 def, 189 spd. Kael 43.366hp, 1605 def, 123 speed.... Man eater A3 booked , PK fully booked, occult A1 fully booked, kael and FB fully booked with your exact masteries, All are level 60. Followed your set up each time, not turn reduction masteries etc. Could it be occult brawler instead of Aothar i guess somehow?
I have followed this guide to the exact numbers. What am i doing wrong?? ?? All masteries are okay speeds all fine. I am using vizer me pk kael and aother so no idea whats wrong :-( Ultimate nightmare
Just did my first successful run and did 27.5 mil on 1 key UNM.. Loads of improvements on the gear but I'm so happy! Setup is Maneater (254), Pain Keeper(240), Bulwark(123), Frozen Banshee(185) and Dracomorph(186)
I don't have Maneater but I have Roshcard. His block dmg buff last the same as ME and has the same cd. Do you think the same setup could work? If yes I can 6-star the rest of the team. Thx
This is awesome, I'm 1 maneater short of the 2 maneater comp and 1 AOE revive on death short of the phoenix comp. I'm really excited to try this out. Probably don't have the gear to pull this off at UNM but it will be a work in progress
I have been trying to put together an unkillable phoenix comp using maneater, Lightsworn and Painkeeper. The idea being revive on death gets triggered on AOE 1, then unkillable goes up for AOE 2 and stun. I just dont have the gear to reach the right spd or silver to test different regear.
I've tried this using the stated speeds but I'm still dying not sure where I'm going wrong. I'm using maneater 253, toragi as my slow boi 124 , fayne and veno both 186 and painkeeper 239. I'm following the guide so any help would be good.
painkeeper should have the second most hp and stun target the higher hp and the lowest def right?(sorry for my englisH) but i am try to understand becase in another video say a guy painkeeper second most hp and stun target most hp in team
Does it have to be Maneater? Can I sub a Sir Nicholas? I've been trying to figure out a way to make an unkillable team with him. Have multiple painkeepers and Renegades
Hey Cold Brew i did. it the same way like you but after turn 6 from cb maneater was the target and the comb doesn’t work for me :(( can you help me pls???
Need help/advice...I have all stats 99% the same apart from PK having 53 instead of 51k HP. Still it doesn't work, PK gets killt from CB in round 10-11 once the unkillable expires. Any Ideas?
I had a problem too, using only 1 speed set, probably due to hidden decimals she was too fast It works for me now with PK 239 speed, with 1 speed set and one immortal set Hope that's key
I’m really new to this part of the game. I’ve always just threw people in there. I tried it and painkeeper died at about 4.8 million. How do I get you to do account takeover.? That would be cool. I’m really interested
nice one ColdBrew, I love your content. much love. 2 questions though, does this team works on lower CB level (like nightmare and brutal)? And can I sub in let say Tayrel for Aothar? does that lower my damge?
Use DeadwoodJedi clanboss calculator for turn order and you will be able to come up with speed required for lover levels. Dont use defensive chap, go for poisoner or pure damage dealer.
Spend millions of silver to run speed tune like Deadwoodjedi, but it will never work. First attempt with your speed tune it was a success. And even don’t have to care about defense. You’re the best 👍
Hi sir!! I have the team like in that video, the only problem is i don't have the artifacts and accessories to reach the maximum amount of speed and health of my champs, any idea what is the minimum speed and health of my champs for brutal or hard CB?
How are you getting your stats up so high even with my best 6 star I'm stuck with no chance of getting these numbers any help is appreciated and I am running man-eater painkiller zavia occult brawler and coffin smasher will this team work thanks in advance and I hope these are not to many noob questions
One question. How much speed can you drop on Maneater and Painkeeper if you got someone like a Flesh-Tearrer or Hope to extend the duration of the buffs on your champions. Dont think these 2 need to be that fast. I might be wrong, but there has to be some sort of lower speed requirement for this. Lets face it. 254 on ME and on top of that 240 on PK is a bit fast...
do you need exactly 240 speed for painkeeper and 254 speed for maneater? mine have 244 and 260 and i use foli as stun target with 105 speed but for some reason the rotation seems all messed up, i can't figure what's going on. i don't use speed aura or speed buffs but foli even with 105 speed seems to sometime loose his buff before the stun cause he's still too fast.
@@mucusofwanderhome6945 nope! sadly he kept using biodisruptor and screwing the hp percentage of the other champions, so i had to replace him. it's too bad because he would be great thanks to living armor but i wasted too many keys trying to make it work and i couldn't afford to try more. if you want to go manual all the way i guess it's fine though.
I couldn’t figure this thing out, please help. I did all the exact same HP and SPD on all of the same Heroes but something always messed up around 10turn and cb suddenly slams hard without ME unkillable buffs I wish you could see it and do an account take over and probably check which hero is off.
Cold Brew Gaming thank you for replying so quickly! I’m glad that I have the maneater and pk but I’m trying to think of options for higher damage. Skullcrusher as stun target?
whooop whooop finally got it right today :]]] with all same champs [needed to max out Kael and Aothar hehe] 24.9mill and 27.44mill on void..is there still up to date link to other affinities somewhere?
Bro, what would it be if kael HP was low enough(lower then Aothar) so he can be targeted with already unkillable buf on him from the beginning to the end of fight instead of Aothar? and Is this comp work on Nightmare? so we can use 3 keys on UHN and one key on NM :D ?
Subscribe if you liked this video and interested in showing this setup vs all other affinities. Thanks!
If you are finding problems, i also do account takeovers on this setup. Try to get PK to be a bit less hp than SLOW target but more DEF.
The idea is that after the heal comes the target with the lowest HP% should be always the SLOW target . If it's not then you need to change health and def values.
Thanks for this! MurderInc hinted to a similar setup, but with Gnarlhorn as guy who sucks up the stuns. This makes more sense as it uses champions you already have (in your case Kael). But please provide speeds for a NM setup! Low Spender/F2P Setups a lot of times also means that they don't reach UNM yet.
can it works with sir nicolas?
Will it work in Brutal with same SPD and HP numbers ? Also, are there any skills that needs to be booked for this composition to work ?
@@Faviel_ No. PK + ME are fully booked
Will it work for hard and brutal?
I agree with the other guy on the comments this is so much more simple explained then other unkillable videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Amazing video. You have revolutionised my F2P clan boss set-up! Huge credit to the Russian guy who discovered this trick too.
I only have speed gear high enough to do this on Brutal so have been working tirelessly to work out the relevant speeds for this. Please see below if this is useful to anybody else (thank you to Deadwood Jedi for his AMAZING calculator, you should all check this out guys):
Maneater: spd 219 (3 sets with LoS)
Painkeeper: spd 204 (2 sets with LoS)
DPS1: spd 158 (no sets, but in Lifesteal)
DPS2: spd 109 (no sets, but in Lifesteal)
Stun Soak: spd 104 (no sets, no Lifesteal)
For some reason if you make DPS2 faster then it messes up the turn order for CB/ME/PK, so unfortunately DPS2 also needs to be very slow. Calculator seems to work for anything from 105 to 109.
I just went the full 50 rounds with this set-up. Only managed 10m because my DPSers are still a bit noobish (all only 5* champs and unreliable poisoners), but it’s still my best ever output!
Please like this comment to bump it up for others go see.
Tryed exactly this and it dont work mate
Richard Russell, it took me a while to get this working properly. You have to be very specific with HP levels to get it to work right. The stun soak needs to be highest HP (mine was 34k) and have as low defense as possible. Maneater should be next highest (i have 33.5k) but stack a lot more on defence to make sure stun soak loses HP much faster in the early rounds. PK then has about 30k ish (to make sure her A2 heals enough in early rounds), also try to make her defence higher than soaker. The 2 DPS can have any low amount of HP. The lower the better, since this will stop them draining too much from ME when he does his A3, they don’t need defence since their lifesteal will top them up for any lost HP..
It will eventually work mate, just keep testing your set-up and rebalancing HP if the stun goes to the wrong place. Remember to disconnect your internet if it messes up so that you don’t lose a key!
Interestingly enough, these speeds are also working for me on NM too. I have absolutely no idea why they work, but i’m not going to complain 😂 i’m almost into 3-key territory for NM!
Tabツ LoS is the “Lore of Steel” mastery. It gives the 3 speed sets a slight boost so it’s easier to reach the high speed requirements
If you give the hp levels, it would be a great help
dude this is gold. very F2P friendly, perfectly explained and very nice idea I subbed!
You are still one of my favorite content creators. I see so many of the others showing off teams that most people will never have. Yea it is easy to do what they do when you have some of the top characters. Thanks for all you do.
The best unkillable team I've ever seen - super simple and very accessible
the only problem for me is that not only the game is giving ZERO counter-attack champs, but no maneater as well
once that day comes I'll go straight to this video
Took me until lv72 to get a CA champ then I pulled Valk and S.crusher in the same week. Keep the faith...if you're still playing.
This is exactly what i've been looking for. was trying one maeater-3PK but the damage just wasnt there. now it will be gravechil and banshe duo and a lucky guy with both of them
How did you tune them? Speeds I tried with failure: Maneater(193), PK nr1(194), PK nr2(196), PK nr3(198) and poisoner(199)
hey guys, I tried with bulkward without frozen banshee (equal setup of FB) against CB red...and It works!!! 22.5M damage...but remember to set kael as leader....thanks again Cold Brew, you are a master!!!
Have you tried Bulwark instead of Kael since he always takes the stun? I mean 1 more chance for a debuff extention...
just pulled a maneater for the 10x to go with my PK. Excited to tackle UNM, love this video!
same, I'm sure many people are watching this because of this event.
This might be stupid question, but doesn't the Frozen Banshee use her A2 on auto and therefore screws the combo up? I have run this exact speed setup now a few times and it does not work since my Maneater at some point dies to the boss (he never gets stunned, but loses the unkillable and dies). And since PE and ME have exactly the speed recommended in here the only other explanation that I can find is the Frozen Banshee A2, or am I missing something here?
Nope she doesnt use a2
Khaldor my hero (hots fan) :p
This could be because you run this in NM instead of UNM ?
Maybe having lore of steel with not the appropriate amount of speed sets, or maybe you dont have lore of Steel ?
Did you make sure you don't have any turn meter acceleration masterie on your ME and PK ?
Sorry to tell you obvious stuff I know you are a smart boy but you know , sometimes we miss small things :p
Edit : there is also the green CB with decrease speed debuff maybe that s what screwed your runs
This is the most unique and informative video you've ever made that applies to me. Subbed. Keep up the great work sir, thank you.
Lol. I literally just saw that Russian video Yesterday and was about to do it myself. Had a hard time getting the details In order, cause it was in Russian. Now you make it In english. Great timing. Thanks!!😊👍
Awesome guide! I'm 2 keying with Vizier, Rhazin, and Frozen Banshee at 40m+ per key.
A member of my clan is doing the same 2 keying unm. 3 of us are working on this exact comp. Have you tried on Spirit?
@@walleye5498 I swap out FB for Aothar on Spirit. Try putting Vizier and Rhazin in lifesteal set with Retribution for extra kicks.
@@Ken-lk1ge Thanks! Planning on it. Already have them in ls. Just a matter of redoing masteries and getting spd and hp sorted. 😅 Also have 2nd FB and Gravechill in the works for Spirit. Viz and Rhaz are disappointing on that one
Hi! I'm interested to kown who is your slowboy in that comp? Rhazin? FB?
Thanks
Cant make it work. Have the same stats but PK has no unkillable for 3 AoEs and dies to the third. Any Help?
Do you have the stat requirements if i wanted to do this on nightmare? My clan doesnt hit unm yet but itd be nice to 1-2 key nightmare with this team if possible
Best video on unkillable ever made. You give all the info needed. Lot of Content creators should learn from you.
Great stuff,now I just need aothar,painkeeper,and maneater.
Thx man, according this video, finally I can create my first unkillable UNM CB team. With low damage, but first the timeing is the important, later I tune the DPS
This video just made ME subscribe. Thanks a lot, great job. Just wondering hence i have all champs required for this team but my clan îs not currently doing ultra nightmare, can i use these setup with mentioned speeds and HP for just nightmare? Or the speed for nightmare must be reduced?
You need to do with different speeds, i will upload one soon
@@ColdBrewGaming please add videos for brutal and nightmare with the same team. If you even explain the necessary stats that will work. Thank you 👍
same here, can't wait for the next vid
@@ColdBrewGaming 3+ for brutal and NM
Thank you for explaining the painkeeper issue/bug, was wondering why my 3 painkeeper n maneater comp was no longer working on auto but was fine on manual
Can you use this setup on nm? Would be interesting to see what damage you pull. Guess it'll be 2 key, right?
That's my question, I'm sure spd and hp stats would have to be lower but in the same order by specific champs.
Mad vid cold, I’ll try this out, I got the me 3pks but not much damage as no draco, my ca team is running like their legs are tied lately not doing anywhere near the damage and doing cb doing 15m or so when I was doing 20s is depressing and putting me off the whole thing. Thanks for the in-depth analyst!
Good video, clear, easy to understand and concise.
Do you know if using roshcard instead of maneater, this could be working anyway?
It can work, but you will need to use a faster block debuffs champion (2 turn duration) to go with the team
What speeds would you need if you were doing this set-up against lower level bosses than UNM?
I have both so will need to look at this, debating who to use as my other 3 to maximize damage.
Fantastic guide Coldbrew, thankyou! Would a BEK work as one of the damage dealers? Or could his heals throw out the slam/stun rotation?
Thanks again dude, you have a new subscriber and fan in me!
although i have not tried it i believe his heals will throw out the rotation, although since his heals heal when the turn is taken its possible that everyone else is full hp% and the SLOW target is not so he will always get stunned
So what alternatives are there to Aothar in separate other videos? I can't find them.
Good work, CB!
I would like to try that on nightmare, what would be the speed for the champs?
Is it also working with counterattack like martyr or skullcrusher or will it mess up the rotation?
I wanted to know the same things about nightmare. But for the counterattack i can tell you that it wont work since Painkeeper's A1 (that boosts her turn meter) will cause her to get out of sync. For nightmare it SHOULD be that you can substract 10 speed from everyone, but i can't be sure.
Awesome video!
One question here :)
Would it be possible using Montaun King as the slowboi? I tried it but the boss is arunning my Maneater now :/
Hey CBG, you talked about a counterattacker possible in comp. What place would he take ? slow one kael ? or one of the 2 poison dps ?
Does this work on full auto from the start on? Recently pulled a maneater and already had a painkeeper so I would like to try it.
Btw is it possible with painkeeper on 5 stars? Just the speed and the hp (and def too?) has to be the right amount, right?
I have sir nicolas instead of man eater. The unlikable buff CD on Nico is 4 not 5 like ME. What speed should i set for Sir nico? Thanks a million!
You need the block debuffs vs spirit.
Working on the same. Have Nick, PK, Draco, Frozen Banshee, and Gravechill for stun and leader. Working on speed for Nick now.
Got it running but my Pk gets out of sync slightly meaning the buffs aren’t up on the 2nd aoe, same numbers and masteries. Maybe I need to rid lore of steel not sure. I’m also using norog as lead as aother isn’t done yet, kael is tanking though when pk has higher hp at start. I’ll keep looking, see if I can figure it out it’s an awesome idea! Not sure speed, but norog passive probs throwing it out. Ran again not sure why pk goes again before bosses 2nd aoe and loses her buffs, the aoe ends up killing her
Update: Finally got it working! It’s beautiful to watch. Upped kaels hp lowered defence, had to drop PK speed to 239 as with lore is 239.48 or something with the calculation just need to boost Aothar with acc banner and assend him, did 19.8m or something great start! Thanks heaps cold helping heaps of people with this vid. What you said about kael’s healed % is what made me think how to get it to work. Will replace him with someone else once I get it tweaked, maybe try armiger as he 60 and mastered ready to go see what damage he can do for me
Greatly put together. Would it work with Roshcard Tower, DoomPreist, PK, Kael and Aothar
How flexible are the speeds for ME and PK? Are 254 and 240 the absolute min?
did somehting change lately? For like 2 days now boss is hitting more often my maneater and even managed to hit my poisoners. About two days ago everything was great. Any ideas? Oh and i am talknig about nightmare setup
Great vid, cheers! Does Kael have to be exactly 124 speed or is there any margin? My team's nearly set up, but Kael just popped over to... 126!
I believe he just needs to be the slowest.
@@luismedel710 I don't believe so. He needs to be at a specific speed to keep him protected, so if he goes over by a bit I think he loses the unkillable buff... But my question is, is there an acceptable range or does it need to be exact like PK and ME?
@@matthewhill3145 ah you're right. Maybe 126 is acceptable. Have you tried it?
Question...i have my speeds/ hp / def correct but not always go till turn 50. Sometimes it goes less than 20. What is the issue on this? Thanks in advance.
Turn twelve of the CB
my pain keeper is always targeted and slammed dead. got all stats the same except running an occult brawler instead of an Aothar. Any ideas?
Then man eater dies next. 7.22 mil damage
Hope you've found, for other guys
I think PK don't have immortal set to have more hp than slow poisonner
I have 255 SPD on ManEater and 241 on Painkeeper and the problem is she can't keep up with cooldown reduction, do I have to have exactly 254/241 SPD or should I raise SPD on PainKeeper to allow her to keep up with her CD reduction?
Awesome video.. good job. Can u pair the fbanshee with grav
echill? So u get the 60% dec def.
You can add any three dps
Does this still work ?
Cannot seem to get this to work. My speeds are all right on. My health is a little more than the 32k. Does the health need to be exactly where you laid it out?
I'll try this out with ME, PK, Draco, FB and Kael. The speeds you have defined should be exact, or can ME be a wee bit faster? thanks Cold Brew.
exaact
Will this speed and hp tunning work for hard and brutal CB?... Because I have this following champ.. thank you😊
What are your thoughts about Skullcrusher taking the stun always? Curious if him throwing up CA plus having his own unkillable would be a decent alternative. Ofc his CA rotation will be thrown off by PK reducing the CD, so there's probably some other tuning that needs to happen.
That's a different setup, still works but almost all need different speeds
@@ColdBrewGaming I watched your recent vid on Sir Nick (I have him and ME) and he's just such a disaster with his A2 and set-up. I'd rather get this set up so I can use Nick elsewhere. Maybe I will try Bulwark as the stun taker so he can extend poisons. My thought with Skullcrusher is that I'd run him, OB, and Banshee, and they'd be able to keep poisons + warmaster going with the CA.
I've built this team as per your stats, with one exception, I've switched Aothar for Septimus and it's not working at all. Stats are all as suggested.
Check pinned comment
@@ColdBrewGaming Yup, still not working. Is it because of the AI fix they implemented a couple of days ago to stop tricking the AIN into attacking a specific champ in a setup perhaps?
Went back to the doc on Deaadwoodjedi, got it working. You should update your video so you don't need the pinned note correcting the errors in it.
well would it be possible to replace kael with Skullcrusher? and if possible how would it look like? thought about pk, aothar, draco, ME, SC.
nice video, i want to try this with Juliana instead of Aothar but something went wrong the first few rounds go like in the video after hitting auto in about 2-3 turns all were killed... could be the lore of steel with a speed set on her? speed is the same for all the champions def and hp almost the same +/-
juliana gains turn meter so it messes everything up
@@ColdBrewGaming you're rigth :) thx
I'm curious how the set up would work with a Counter Champion. The team I am considering would be: Maneater, Painkeeper, Occult Brawler, Frozen Banshee, Martyr.
Amazing video! Though I have a question, is it necessary for maneater and pain keeper to have over 250 speed? Isn't ok to just be able to go before the cb does?
No since their cooldowns arent 3 turns
@@ColdBrewGaming I thought Maneater had a 4 turn cooldown with books on his A3. I was wrong, it was actually 5 turns.
Thanks for responding, i would not have realized otherwise haha
great video! waiting to see the next with other choices for dps :)
Any chance you could do this team with ME, PK, Frozen Banshee, and Bulwark or Septimus? I am having a heck of a time getting counter attack to work with this.
CA will mess up the speeds because PK gains TM on autoattack
Cold Brew what are the speeds for nm? My clan is not at unm yet. Thanks man!
This is so much better explained than MurderInc's explanation last week.
While this is well explained, it's a different team than any of the unkillable squads murderinc highlighted.
CB, who would i use if i dont have a Frozen Banshee and Aothar?
Thanks for this I have one of each of these champions, now I have to build them correctly.
Ran this 7 times always failed by turn 15 at the latest. Man eater is 37.221 hp, 2635def, 255 speed. PK 50.352hp , 1647 def 240 spd. Occult 32.099hp, 1642 def, 189 spd. FB 32.991 hp, 2415 def, 189 spd. Kael 43.366hp, 1605 def, 123 speed.... Man eater A3 booked , PK fully booked, occult A1 fully booked, kael and FB fully booked with your exact masteries, All are level 60. Followed your set up each time, not turn reduction masteries etc. Could it be occult brawler instead of Aothar i guess somehow?
I have followed this guide to the exact numbers. What am i doing wrong?? ?? All masteries are okay speeds all fine. I am using vizer me pk kael and aother so no idea whats wrong :-( Ultimate nightmare
Just did my first successful run and did 27.5 mil on 1 key UNM.. Loads of improvements on the gear but I'm so happy! Setup is Maneater (254), Pain Keeper(240), Bulwark(123), Frozen Banshee(185) and Dracomorph(186)
Think I may of missed it but presume Banshee is the same setup as Aothar?
Great video mate, can you do this with counter and Septimus for Debuff extender?
Also can it work With Roshcard?
I don't have Maneater but I have Roshcard. His block dmg buff last the same as ME and has the same cd. Do you think the same setup could work? If yes I can 6-star the rest of the team. Thx
wont work on affinity. need block debuffs
This is awesome, I'm 1 maneater short of the 2 maneater comp and 1 AOE revive on death short of the phoenix comp. I'm really excited to try this out. Probably don't have the gear to pull this off at UNM but it will be a work in progress
I have been trying to put together an unkillable phoenix comp using maneater, Lightsworn and Painkeeper. The idea being revive on death gets triggered on AOE 1, then unkillable goes up for AOE 2 and stun. I just dont have the gear to reach the right spd or silver to test different regear.
I've tried this using the stated speeds but I'm still dying not sure where I'm going wrong.
I'm using maneater 253, toragi as my slow boi 124 , fayne and veno both 186 and painkeeper 239. I'm following the guide so any help would be good.
Toragi doesn't agree with unkillables. deadwood Jedi tested this.
@@sgtleehead thank you my g
Still working on version 4.70 ?
Can it work well with MN , PK , geomancer
painkeeper should have the second most hp and stun target the higher hp and the lowest def right?(sorry for my englisH) but i am try to understand becase in another video say a guy painkeeper second most hp and stun target most hp in team
can I replace Kael with skullcrusher??team combo like this. Skullcrusher 124 speed,pain k , man e,septimus,frozen
Great explanation even for us who do not know much about these setups, thank you
Just read your response to another comment about NM, looking forward to the video, awesome. :)
Great vid bro..love it..please do more..!! Really helps a lot of the community!
can i get this to work for nightmare CB also ? would i need to change everybodies speed ?
I have all these guys except Aothar, who is a good replacement?
Ah ok, I just got Aothar. Ok lets get cracking!!
I have all these except man eater, who’s a good sub? Paragon??
Does it have to be Maneater? Can I sub a Sir Nicholas? I've been trying to figure out a way to make an unkillable team with him. Have multiple painkeepers and Renegades
Hey Cold Brew i did. it the same way like you but after turn 6 from cb maneater was the target and the comb doesn’t work for me :(( can you help me pls???
Need help/advice...I have all stats 99% the same apart from PK having 53 instead of 51k HP. Still it doesn't work, PK gets killt from CB in round 10-11 once the unkillable expires. Any Ideas?
I had a problem too, using only 1 speed set, probably due to hidden decimals she was too fast
It works for me now with PK 239 speed, with 1 speed set and one immortal set
Hope that's key
I’m really new to this part of the game. I’ve always just threw people in there. I tried it and painkeeper died at about 4.8 million. How do I get you to do account takeover.? That would be cool. I’m really interested
Hey man , contact me on discord
discord.gg/ErgaUE
It says invalid invite. Could’ve expired I guess
Help
Lol.....I’m reduced to begging
@@rabblerouser1177 i got a discord link in my videos. Dont be lazy
nice one ColdBrew, I love your content. much love.
2 questions though, does this team works on lower CB level (like nightmare and brutal)?
And can I sub in let say Tayrel for Aothar? does that lower my damge?
Use DeadwoodJedi clanboss calculator for turn order and you will be able to come up with speed required for lover levels.
Dont use defensive chap, go for poisoner or pure damage dealer.
is maneater booked?
Can we put ninja in this setup? He have a turn meter boost against bosses.
Spend millions of silver to run speed tune like Deadwoodjedi, but it will never work. First attempt with your speed tune it was a success. And even don’t have to care about defense. You’re the best 👍
Can u make NM Clan boss with warcaster and roshcrard plz , i have 231 and 230 speed on them but I don’t know how to make it work
Hi sir!! I have the team like in that video, the only problem is i don't have the artifacts and accessories to reach the maximum amount of speed and health of my champs, any idea what is the minimum speed and health of my champs for brutal or hard CB?
You can do a similar team with slower speeds
How are you getting your stats up so high even with my best 6 star I'm stuck with no chance of getting these numbers any help is appreciated and I am running man-eater painkiller zavia occult brawler and coffin smasher will this team work thanks in advance and I hope these are not to many noob questions
Does it matter if Man-Eater has more Hit points then it says in the video?
Is it possible with 2x painkeeper and less speed stat? Do you know how fast they have to be with 2xpk?
One question. How much speed can you drop on Maneater and Painkeeper if you got someone like a Flesh-Tearrer or Hope to extend the duration of the buffs on your champions. Dont think these 2 need to be that fast. I might be wrong, but there has to be some sort of lower speed requirement for this. Lets face it. 254 on ME and on top of that 240 on PK is a bit fast...
ME has speed gear with 1-2 speed rolls each. not crazy when you are looking to do end game. Also can't extend unkillable
@@ColdBrewGaming aaaaaaaaaaa, to bad....
hey coldbrew , why is yr poison dealing 62,500 per poison? mine is only dealing 50,000 per poison tick
Poison sensitivity debuff!
do you need exactly 240 speed for painkeeper and 254 speed for maneater? mine have 244 and 260 and i use foli as stun target with 105 speed but for some reason the rotation seems all messed up, i can't figure what's going on. i don't use speed aura or speed buffs but foli even with 105 speed seems to sometime loose his buff before the stun cause he's still too fast.
Yeah the speeds are essential
@@ColdBrewGaming ok, I understand thanks!
yay! it worked, you got to be very precise with speed tuning indeed, thanks a lot!
Franco did this work with your foli? Can you please share all your stats ? I was hoping to use foli as well. Thanks
@@mucusofwanderhome6945 nope! sadly he kept using biodisruptor and screwing the hp percentage of the other champions, so i had to replace him. it's too bad because he would be great thanks to living armor but i wasted too many keys trying to make it work and i couldn't afford to try more. if you want to go manual all the way i guess it's fine though.
Will this also work with ROshcard and 1 painkeeper?
Is NM possible with an unkillable team ? same speed or lower for maneater , painkeeper and for the dps ?
yeah i got another video on that
I couldn’t figure this thing out, please help. I did all the exact same HP and SPD on all of the same Heroes but something always messed up around 10turn and cb suddenly slams hard without ME unkillable buffs I wish you could see it and do an account take over and probably check which hero is off.
Check the pinned comment
Totally subscribed after this video.
Could I replace aothar with rhazin and still use frozen banshee? Who should I use instead of Kael? Brakkus maybe?
It can work , but rhazin is high defence.
Anything works as a tank as long as its lower defence than everyone but higher hp
Cold Brew Gaming thank you for replying so quickly! I’m glad that I have the maneater and pk but I’m trying to think of options for higher damage. Skullcrusher as stun target?
Hey, can someone tell me how Pain and Maneater should be booked? I'm sure Maneater needs a 5 cooldown on his A3, but what about Pain?
PK needs her a3 and a2 fully booked
Cold Brew Gaming Gotcha! Thanks so much.
Amazing job! i fixed a version with skullcrusher instead of kael, it works properly, around 31M!!! you get my sub
Does it work on green boss? How many speed sets painkeeper has?
whooop whooop finally got it right today :]]] with all same champs [needed to max out Kael and Aothar hehe] 24.9mill and 27.44mill on void..is there still up to date link to other affinities somewhere?
Yeah search the channel
@@ColdBrewGaming just did and didnt found videos for different affinities with same comp[i dont have Venus] or any with SC..
@@thelast1090 its literally a few videos after this. Anw for other affinities, the tank must be weak affinity
Bro, what would it be if kael HP was low enough(lower then Aothar) so he can be targeted with already unkillable buf on him from the beginning to the end of fight instead of Aothar?
and
Is this comp work on Nightmare? so we can use 3 keys on UHN and one key on NM :D ?