Raid Shadow Legends | New Budget Unkillable - Tips and Tricks
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2020
- Raid Shadow Legends | New Budget Unkillable - Tips and Tricks
Answering several of the questions about Stun Targeting and how to build this composition!
There does exists a corner case with the weak affinity tank vs. Spirit on UNM. UNM Spirit calls for holding off on PK's A2 before the first stun. I've seen a couple times now people's screenshots of their stun tank at a sliver of health not getting targeted by the first stun there. In these situations you may wish to have your slow boi be just a wee bit tankier than normal...
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Deadwood, I just want to say how huge an impact the beginning of this video had on me. I spent a few weeks leveling and gearing the champs I needed to try and mimic what you did in the initial new budget unkillable video, and was wrecked more than I would have expected when it didn't work (stuns are going on the slowboi, Occult Brawler, but ME/PK don't have the unkillable up for the round 12 Aoe and I wipe). I don't even know how to express how much better your words of encouragement here have made me feel. It's been a tough year. I haven't even watched the rest of the video, it doesn't matter. Regardless of whether or not I get it figured out, thank you. Thank you for creating the comp, the calculators to help us tune it, the website to host the resources to support us, and most of all for being so selfless and patient and kind while a thousand RAID players all scream their questions at you all day!
Definitely appreciate that your not scared to show the mess ups & keep positive thru it all. I know thats not the easiest thing to maintain, especially knowing hey this should be working properly.
Finally got my UK working -- all because of you! Went from 2 keying NM to 3 keying UNM, all with Bulwark as my slowboy. I simply cycle out my 3 different DPS depending on affinity (one blue, one red, one green) so the two in the lineup are not weak affinity, and it works for all CBs regardless of their affinity. It took me about three days of experimentation to get it working. THANK YOU!!!
Just wanted to say thnx to all involved, i was finally able to get my setup to run after watching numerous vids of yours, murderinc, skratch, byoff, and anyone else involved. Dont give up guys , never give up.
Great content! Thanks for making this video, after struggling with building the comp myself I was a little frustrated. Going to try again.
Another great video DeadwoodJedi, I especially like the fact you demonstrate patience during the hole video, awesome!
TY DWJ. I'm working on building this comp and appreciate all the extra info on the process.
humbling to have such a talented individual who is working to improve things for the community!!!! Giving everyone the options and answers!
Lol u see the charts with rates ? there is nothing humble here is all about money lol. I rather doubt anyone can benefit from the videos unless u played for 2 years.. I played a lot different games for long time even I can barely understand wtf he saying....
I know Im kind of off topic but does anybody know of a good website to watch newly released movies online?
@Krew Beckham Flixportal :)
@Zahir Eduardo thank you, signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I appreciate it!
@Krew Beckham Glad I could help =)
Something to go along with arena tiers is the great hall. If you start leveling up HP on void or something, it could start messing with it too. I am trying to build my first unkillable now. Your videos and resources have been a great help, thanks!
people should check out the 1st vid on this before asking so many questions many people seem to think this comp requires all these champs and re-tuning for different bosses.....this comp needs 2 champs the painkeeper and maneater and work on all lvl of CB without re-tuning speeds ....that is what makes this a budget team..
. 3 keys 1 team beats 3 bosses...
..2 champs minium regearing(use 2 champs for the slow-boy for no re-gearing and/or affinities)
..we are not saying painkeeper and maneater are "budget" but easier than the other options and gear requirements are not extreme just need to be precise and can easily lvl up as u farm better gears
Love you and the response you give!
@@DeadwoodJedi woot my 1st pinned comment...lol thx...love u too!
Great video bro, I'm a big fan of you. Keep up the good work!
Really really good video... exactly what I needed to get the full understanding and be prepared to level and setup my new man-keeper team.
:-D
I'm on day 42 and your a really big help ! Blessings to you and your family!
Hey man, this is gandalf from discord. Thanks for all your help with this comp and for this vid. Keep up the good work!
Follow you much closer now I’m am really impressed with your videos
Great video. Am so glad that I found your channel. (Recommended by Hell Hades and Ash)
Alan Shearing me too!
Thanks Deadwood for this video. It's helpful and do you know what? I'm German so not a native english speaker and it's absolutely nice and easy to understand you and also, to me, you are a very sympatic guy. Keep on, see you later
Hey Deadwood great vid as always. Just wondering on your website it features a fast and slow version of this comp is the dmg output the same?
you are honest , and at least you show everything all the fails , thats a big benefit
Great job...your videos have been a big help...thanks much
Thanks so much! It worked with my first shot! A new chapter begins for me. With a semi-optimized Squad I‘m now able to three Key the UNCB thanks to your effort! One question! I‘m thinking of using Skullcrusher as my 2nd DD‘ler mainly because of the counter attack. Do you see any problem with this ? Thank you for an orientation.
Pretty sure I saw you levelling gear in game chat, that was pretty cool
deadwood? more like Dankwood Jedi. Keep up the good work!
Great stuff here!!!! Thanks for being humble.
Very nicely explained, thank DJ
I love your videos we all learn a ton from you and we love ya buds. But I wish you would put other champions in the line ups for us. Obviously outside of Pain and Maneater. You don't have to set them up, a lot of us just don't have the same champs. However we might have champs that you might think would be good as a substitute. This comp scenario is awesome and popular. I just wish the videos had 30 seconds of just saying hey these 5 or 6 champions work as a filler. Other than that very awesome content, thank you so much and keep up the good work.
ANY DPS champion can be replaced by any other. If a champ is crucial I say that, otherwise pretty interchangeable...
Great Video Deadwood thanks
Dw you are so funny. Giving up the advice while falling flat. Love you❤ brother. Thanks for the advice
Hello Jedi! I love your video and you passion.
I have one question about this budget unkillable team. So I am in the early stage of the game (11 Level 60s). I have painkeeper and meneater, but my gears are not that good. I can only build my defence to XXXX+1,500 for every champ. I am wondering is this enough for making this team work?
About the stuns I'm trying different champs because I want more dmg but sometimes it takes till round 7 for my slowboi to take the stun but if maneater or pk don't take it I don't mind because it will go back into sync just needs the hp low enough and thanks deadwood jedi for the videos and big thanks to rust for his Calculators and for personally building my cb team because I don't understand numbers that good lol
Would love to know proper masteries for this to work on painkeeper / Maneater as the other 3 can be different for everybody but the masteries would be very useful to see for the 2 important roles in this.
Hi sir i tried your Clan boss calculator in your website, but the thing is i can't see aothar on the list of "lead champion"
Thank you for what you are doing and also for being human. It has been so hard replicating and it is good to see smart guys fail sometimes too.
Phil Tullis hehe, wish it weren’t so! But glad it could help!
@DeadwoodJedi so the speeds on the previous video "3Bosses,1 comp" on all champs won't work since your speed on this video is different or just another setup that also works?
I can get this to run perfectly on Ultra Nightmare, but I can't make it work in Brutal, and I have no idea why, except that I note that in the setup you posted on Brutal, the CB attacks while no unkillable buff is up. You said in the video that "It takes until round 9 to synch up," but I always die around turn 18 or 19, and the CB continues to do AoE attacks while unkillable isn't up, leading to a wipe.
Finally got this pretty much running correct all the time on UNM. Had to up ME speed a couple to make sure he gets 2 turns between stun and first aoe. Just need to get more damage to 3 key now as dont have big hitter like Septimus so using Frozen Banshee. Avg 20.5m per run.
Struggling with it on NM but will keep at it.
It does need patience as you say and it did help a little to see the failed runs you had as it can happen to anyone!
interesting, may i know your final speed comps on your champs? im having incosistent issues with my comp. Sometimes its success but few times it fails on turn 7 since the slam comes first beofre ME can cast his A3
jay cee hi. Ive played around with this so much to get it working but think i have it both with Rhazin and ive also got a comp with 2 frozen banshee’s. Still 3 key but it does 30m damage which is 4/5m more than with Rhazin.
When trying to get the double banshee comp working i realised that arcane celebrity was causing issue with my FB’s
Ok ill put speed/spd sets/lore of steel/arcane celeb.
ME - 246/1/Y/N
PK - 221/2/N/N
Rhazin - 178/1/NN
FB - 175/0/Y/N
Aorthar - 114/0/Y/N
You have to watch the run and make sure it syncs. Ive had it go wrong at turns 30ish and also 40 odd as well!
All should have 1 turn of unkillable left when second aoe hits from CB. PK should be resdy to go straight after that and then gets another turn to do A2 right before stun. ME should be ready to go right after stun hits so he gets 2 turns before first aoe to put unkillable back on.
Hope you get it working. Patience and tweak speeds etc until you get it working. Id say i did close to if not more than 100 aborted runs trying to sort both comps out.
So if I understand correctly, in theory I could make a void affinity my stun target for most affinities providing that the other two dps champs are strong affinity and meet the hard numbers needed to help that stun targeting?
good stuff as always!
A question about this unkillable comp && silver...
Is it a constant (as in daily) gear change that is needed if i have only 5 champs ready for unkillable?
that depending on the affinity that CB goes to, i need to gear HP higher / lower to champs that ME does not get targeted, and slowboi keeps the target?
Thank you for all you do you area beast for this stuff
Are not area lol
I went with bulwark as my slow boi and it is hard to keep his defense down. But worth the effort to get the passive proc. Really had to focus on getting everyone else's defense up over 2k
Same
Can we have lower speeds if we are hitting Brutal CB? Struggling with getting that much good speed gear together. My clan hasn't opened NM or UNM yet and I was lucky enough to get a maneater and painkiller in the last void event.
You can be affinity friendly with void Bulwark as a stun boi and 2 affinity champions in lifesteal (I use Frozen Banshee in lifesteal and Fayne with her dedicated healing skill without lifesteal). But Bulwark as a defense champion is a little bit trickier to get to the right defense level (I use 1* shield on level 4, just to get his extra accuracy set going + you get really cheap swap for the different speed).
Will relentless set on Painkeeper affect the synergy with Maneater?
"clearly I don't know what I'm doing...."
Priceless 😂
I cannot find the excel chart you show at the beginning calculating the % hp etc. I just subbed btw! Savior channel !
Found it: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yJj53WjFemCwM3AyyuYcIGVWLLH_IlKcV57kFAMk3n0/edit#gid=2032005244
we love you deadwood!!!!
Hi Deadwood! It is not working for me...I have everything set up as you isntructed and it works on UNM on all the affinities except for Green affinity...since my PK is not covered for the second AOE and she gets the decrease speed debuff on her...what do I do? As soon as that happens it is game over for me :( please help...
dont have a pain keeper but have paragon, can it work with paragon?
by the way love your hat!
@DeadwoodJedi Picture this this works perfect on unm but somehow painkeeprs on nightmare is always getting de sync from maneater unkillable i ve tryied speeds 218-222. where s the problem?
I got Bulwark to work as Slowboy at level 50 - took a lot of HP% glyphs and 6* HP% gloves, chest, and boots.
Does this fix the affinity issue?
@@travism2185 it did for me as long as I changed my poisoner, or used rowan - my other poisoners were occult brawler, kael, or aothar - I got rowan to work on all affinities but since i had the other champs i just used them where appropriate - had to push OBs health down if he wasn't the strong affinity.
@@OctopusPrime3 very interesting, thanks a lot
Can you please do a video on everything you know about stun targeting? You hinted at some things after the 6:30 mark that may explain my Warcrusher/Dark Knight stun target problem.
This is actually something i've been working on...so stay tuned!
Thank you for this video. Could you by chance post the delays that you use in the calculator for all three modes B, NM, and UNM?
that is part of what makes this a budget team.....it does not require re-tuning for various boss lvls (just have 2 champs speed tuned for slow-boy)
It’s all on the website
What do you think ,how much this team can do if i use 2draco , septimus , maneatar and pk ....
Please do a vid on sir nic and man eater unkillable, can’t find any that’s up to date
Can we switch Septimus with Vizier or maybe Coldheart/Royal Guard?
can you go over what to do if the team just dies? slow boi works but team dies like turn 10
Hi. How to save keys? If i leave the battle my key is gone.
Hello deadwood...its it ok i put attack% chest on 2 dps?...
you did great job to help us all great effort and i like your starting music its Arabic music . greeting to you from Egypt
but we not all lucky enough to get maneater even i played for 9 months now and never get 1 we in desperate need for other champions could play UNM CB best dmg for 1 key is 15m even with Valkyrie and duchess and frozen banshe we need help here
thanks again man
Ya I've been usin it and forst 2 days worked liked a charm. But now for some r3ason it doesn't work on nm. But workin on unm
I am having an issue with double maneater comp will you help me
This man need a shout out in game!
Took me 5 times to get the stun right. But sadly my comp is a 4 key. I am using Ob not aothar. Just subbed
how do we access the stun target calculator
Is the stun calculator also for NM?
I dort get it. My ManEater gets the 3rd Stun, but my Slowboi is already at 0HP and ME has about 40% HP. Any ideas? Trying to get this working for weeks
My new clan that I got into does nightmare daily and almost have ultra beaten too and I would like to help so I’m making a unkillable team now with maneater and painkiller they pointed me this way and you do very well explaining this tactic my pain and maneater are lvl 50 and almost both ranked up after that I’ll try this out finally
Maneater, painkiller, draco, bad el and figuring out a slow boy still
what is best to replace septimus?
such great content!
I have a query, I have managed to get this to work on NM and works perfectly. however when i adjust the speed of my slow boi for brutal and UNM, to exactly what is mentioned in the video (from 121 to 114) the runs dont work. I follow exactly the setuo as prescribed with no tm boosting masteries etc. Surely if it works on NM adjusting the speed as shown should work for brtual and UNM but it does not. any advice?
I believe this video is fake ultra 114 speed. nightmare fake ... 121 haha 15 laps :S
The stuff about needing a min hp in UK to be targeted is real interesting, I know you said 16% is safe but any idea what that is more precisely at the minimum? I've kinda always knew about it but everyone always seem to have contradicting experiences with UK so having a better idea could be real helpful.
IAMDOLWOTA we think it’s 16%...but haven’t confirmed.
Why my PK usually deals 2nd not needed turn? 4:3 ratio unkill with taurus. All masteries are correct, no speed set. PK have TRUE 241speed. But on 22 turn she makes more 1 turn and lost it's unkill buff. All setup ruined. I m confused. What should I do there? Decrease PK's speed to 240, 239 etc?
does PK work with Cycle of Magic?
I've completely ruined my clan boss setup trying this🤦🏾♂️ but I'll get it at some point
So I'm having this issue with Painkeeper dying first, every time. One turn 1, 3, 6, 9, etc... our team takes the ae with no Unkillable active, and Painkeeper is dying from it on turn 9. My slowboy is taking the stun, no problem.
Is it normal for the team to take an AE every 3 turns in the budget unkillable? Do I just somehow need to buff her HP enough to survive it? How would that work in turns 40+ when it's doing 10x her max hp?
I fenoodled the speed calculator and saw that Maneater is blocking death every ae, starting turn 9; so I guess my problem is that PainKeeper isn't strong enough to survive the turn 9 AE lol... Of course, now that I buff up Painkeeper's defense, the clan boss targets Maneater instead of my slow boy... even though I didn't alter them, in any way...
Thanks for showing the tenacity required to tune an unkillable comp. Have patience!
I replicated this for NM but Ii had to go with 120 speed on the slowboi (not the 121 shown on the website).
So i have Maneater at 240, Painkeeper at 221, Frozen Banshee at 175, Kael at 178, Bulwark at 214 (221 on NM)
Works well on Nm, no issues whatsoever, on brutal however I AM NOT unkillable. I follow along with the moves in the video, i do the exact same things but I do not become unkillable after round 9, or whatever is said in the other video.. I have all books, went into the stun calc and everything checks out, in practice bulwark takes the stun, everything is okay, except I do not stay unkillable.
I would appreciate any feedback or help or anything because I am lost at this point. As I said, it works for Nightmare bumping Bulwark up to 121 but something is off on this for brutal and I cannot for the life of me figure it out.
Hey Deadwood could you pls post the link to the stun calc? i can´t find it.
thanks so much
Stefan B. It’s on the website under guides and resources
20:40 Why did you contrariwise on Santa unkillable from 9 nov 2020? PK 41,610 HP & 2403 DEF while stun target Skullcrusher at 40,623 HP & 4348 DEF ??? Just because Skullcrusher is a leader and same affinity as CB?
Thanks a lot for all the work bro! I'm using this team with: PK, ME, OB as slowboi and Draco and Rhazin as DPS and it woks great 95% of the time!
With my team i can 2key UNM almost everyday.
Btw is there a setup based on PK, ME, slowboi that can reach the 1key UNM thereshold?
Boyakki Tonzula I just got draco yesterday and have this setup. Is there anything special you do? I’m trying to get it dialed in right now. Speeds of rhazin and draco at 188-189? Ob at 124?
@@81llzvn
ME: hp 42163, Def 2776, Speed 254, Atk 2475, Crit 100, Crit Dmg 141.
PK: hp 51049, Def 2297, Speed 204, Atk 2071, Crit 98, Crit Dmg 159.
OB: hp 53374, Def 1712, Speed 124, Atk 2962, Crit 89, Crit Dmg 241, Acc 313
Rhazin: hp 35619, Def 3923, Speed 189, Crit 97, Crit Dmg 208, Acc 236
Draco: hp 26230, Def 1928, Speed 188, Atk 4669, Crit 100, Crit Dmg 246, Acc 302
It always works exept if early critt mess the things up but will happen one time on 20-30 runs. For me the run fail only when Maneater got double critted by the first two AOE and Occult Browler don't take at least one critical hit too.
With this setup i pull 34,5 - 37,5 million damage for key.
Hope this helps!
Boyakki Tonzula thanks a lot. I took a screenshot :) my draco isn’t booked and I don’t have that crit dmg but I want to get the team down first then worry about that
@@81llzvn don't worry. With this composition will be very easy to 3 key UNM.
2 key cames with pretty much good gear on every champ.
I would like to pull one debuff extender to see how much far i can get with one!
does this setup work in NM?
Has anyone got to manage CB Hard with this? I KNOW "it's not worth it" but I've been trying to get out of Hard so I can do Brutal, my clan is small :( I've been trying to speed tune it but at the turn # 6, Maneater gets 2 thrns instead of 1 compared with the Brutal Speed tune
Currently working on me, pk, aothar. 1st uk cb team. Wish me luck lol
The frist time I tried this comp I had to spend 15 million silver and more than 1k gems on day 1. I have yet to try this variation for all 3 bosses. Scare to go back down that ran it hole.
Is there another alternative to Pain keeper?, been playing FTP for what feels like forever and still have never lucked on that pull.
Just finally got my Maneater the other week.
I need help doing a myth/eater brutal unkillable
Got the stun target sorted but painkeeper is outrunning the buff her speeds 240 and i dont have any other turn meter stuff on her other the her A1 whats going on looked at the calculator and it says the but why my head hurts
240? Seems a biiiiit fast. Also, sounds like masteries are off. Maybe on another champ
It is posible to use a counterattack or allied attack champ in this compo? Or it will break?
that would be a totally different "comp"....once u start adding counter attack that changes everything because the buffs will wear out much quicker then u need to be much faster and precise on speed
I wanted to make sure I have a void as my stun target too so I could swap out only dps champs for affinity changes. I think the threshold of hp/de to make a negative affinity the stun target is too hard of a target to hit.
This is exactly what I do. I find it much easier to swap in dps than out the target. Fantastic resources Deadwood!
Looks like the ideal void Slow boy would be Venus. She has high HP, and is a poisoner. Second best seems to be Bulwark but his base HP is so low that it takes three different HP% pieces to make his HP high enough. Then he hits like a wet noodle with all those HP and no defense.
hi deadwood just suscribe for the good job u do ,thx a lot, i try to make the same team but i have some issues with the focus ..at some point like turn 9 and 12 the clan boss start to focus my banshee or my ME . i am still trying to figure it out >
if someone got some idea :
-ME : 242 speed 3912 def 33900hp
-PK : 219 speed 2635 def 29388hp
-dps1 : 177 speed 2704 def 27250 hp
-dps2 : 176 speed 2654 def 26900 hp
-Slowboi: 117 speed 1122 def 44500 hp
I did it just ad to put 4k hp on PK and it works !
I have painkeeper and maneater, any rares I could use to fill in the gaps?
painkeeper and maneater is the only 2 u need to make this work..... any? yes...other 3 can be ANYONE
To get the CB to target the slow boy allways just make sure to have 30k or less on the dps with at least some defence ME being the same, PK to have around 43-45k with s alot of defence and the stuntarget aka slow boy having like 3 or 4 k more HP then PK and like no defence at all... problem solved. You can also run a fully booked Rotos, but he wont do as much damage as a Septimus for example
Man..that was fun... watchin a pro fail hard... I made my comp working with lvl 50 bulwark (lower base def makes it so much easier) as stun target.
Basically Maneater and painkeeper aothar banshee and bullwark on void.
For magic and force afinity boss i use Razin,aothar and bulwark is stun target.
For spirit afinity i use banshee and kael again bulwark is the target.
3keyin it all the time.
Easy days with lvl50 stun target. Hopefully it will help somone out there.
Patience is the key.
Nihad Jusic good advice!
Happen to have bulwark sitting in my volt. May have to consider him as slow boy as well. Did you book him ? If so , to max? Maybe some guidance on how you build him in masteries en gear? Thx!
@@annick9684 booked him fully.
When it comes to masteries..just go support side for accuracy and never turnmeter boost.
Offense you can but if he isnt 60..don't..
In offense don't activate lifedrinker
And
Anything with turnmeter boost. And yes he has to be slowboy.
few little hacks for new players to start with:
- 40 lvl stun boy may be ok if you're able to keep his hp high enough
- no shield = less armor
- poisoners may deal dmg even on low lvl. I am limited for resource, and my 40-lvl banshee overdamages 60-lvl one with warmaster.
I tried in nigthmare with PK with 219 speed (like you put in the guide) and in several turns (8-9) Only She loses inmortal and the boss kills her...
Can you make skullcrusher the slow target without out changing a bunch of speeds?
Yes. As long as you time him correctly it should throw anything off.
@@DeadwoodJedi But at your site you advise people not to use counterattack champs..
is possible make 1 team unkillable for unm and nm? or use the team of unm for nm boss maybe? how much damage make your unkillable team of unm in nm? are you try? sorry by my english i hope you understand what i talking about jeje
this comp works on NM UNM and brutal......ith very little speed re-tuning(or 2 champs)
@@slarzyer can you give me more details please? xD
Hi deadwood, at the moment I am running speed PK 222, ME 240.51(2 speed set), BEK 177, Draco 177 and Geo 112 (5 Star). I did all the speed check on the speed calculater website all stack up, the slowboi took all the stunts, but for somereason the boss will get out of sync on the rotation (7,10) it will do the aoe before the ME use unkillable, what seems to be the issues here?
Sounds like masteries to me….off hand without checking speeds…pk maybe too fast too - I’d double check that. Also make sure to set the skills for pk as that could potentially be the issue of not using the a2 at the right time….also I’d be careful with BEK and the healing.
@@DeadwoodJedi Thanks for the replay, I’ll see what I can do
@@DeadwoodJedi hi Jedi I check everything is correct, the stunt target is it is getting hit, still the same problem on a certain rotation before ME put on a unkillable the boss come in with the aoe. I have joined your discord channel and made a post please can you take a look when you’re free? Thanks :)
@@nictse4811 Hello, I have the same problem, can you find a solution ?
@@maat-remetou4837 have you checked all the masteries?
Why is painkeeper your fastest and not maneater? just watched your older video for the budget unkillable. there you had a different setup