This team can work in several speed ranges. The slowest speed range that I discovered: 239...244 Maneater 215...229 Pain keeper 171...178 dd1 171...178 dd2 110...117 dd3 upd! only on green kb there is a problem, at some speeds on KB turn6 the Pain keeper use heal after kb hit. This is not a problem if you can guarantee that this turn the third DD will have the least HP% (low defense dd3, sets of immortality on other teammates, etc). Or you can use more limited speed range Pain keeper and dd1 239...244Mn / 228..229Pk / 171dd1 / 171...178dd2 / 110...117dd3
For anyone looking for the written guide, you can find it here: www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/gst0b7/23_budget_unkillable_with_maneater_pain_keeper/ Thanks again to MurderInc for the shoutout and hope you guys like the thumbnail designs :)
playing with this comp last whole month... 3 frozen banches + pk + Me stable 35-36 mil 2 frozen banches + kael + pk +me around 32mil Bulwark + 2 frozen B + pk + me arround 35mil Draco + 2 Frozen B + pk + me 40-42 mil didn't try like Septimus + Vizier + Draco + pk + me ..... :D etc..... Another way to keep stuns on target champ from beginning is to get another 2 dmg dealers in livesteel gear (which they never get chance to get stun + with Livesteel gear you have better chance to proc counter mastery on every CB aoe ) and pk and Me with highest Def and 4-5k less HP then target champ. So, target champ as lowest def as possible and just 4-5k higher HP from second highest hp champ. So after PK heals, target champ will have lowest HP % among others. i failed 50x in the beginning :D
I had this idea pop into my head and I can’t stop thinking about it Would a fury set on an unkillable team do way more damage than any other composition you seem like the best guy for the job to answer this question
ME, PK, Rhaz, FB, OB like your advice before constantly got me 3 keys unm, but to achieve higher than that i think draco and extender will works well. Good job Murder
I have the same comp but it doesn't work. Whole team loosing unkill on second aoe and after few rounds they all die. What is the speed of the ME? Mine is 254 in full speed sets. Maybe is too slow?
This looks awesome! But the sheet won‘t work: When I download and open it it says their are some things not able to be repaired - anyone else having that problem?
Great video, thanks. Can I ask you a thing? What do you think to use Sandlashed Survivor with Pain Keeper and Maneater to use less speed on them? Have you some advice? Thanks.
I know a reddit thread from a guy called rust figured out a way to make longbeard work, whiched helped me push to a 2 key using this comp, I dont know if he ever worked out a CA though, it ultimately has to do dropping PK's speed to a sweet spot
Hi, thank you for this video!! If i added a Sandlashed Survivor, Occult Brawler, and Frozen Banshee, Would Sandlashed mess up the rotation with extending Buffs? Also, who would you recommend as the stun target?
Hey murder, I got my me to 210 speed, pk at 200. I got them fully booked out today. Tried with kale, turvold, banshee,brakus and your coldheart. It gets messed up around 6 to 10. All other players under 150 speed. Im not trying to do the top 3 matches normal brutal, but not even doing that. I'd send the info sheet on those 2. But don't see attach item...
Very nice indeed,not at the stage to use this info rn but not far away,just need some champs lol. Oh shout-out to Russ for creating that calculator,that must of took some doing.
Love the content and I'm really glad we've got someone like you and your accociated players here digging deep and solving parts of the game. Quick question, the revive on death comps, I'm trying to get one together with 2 crimson helms and a shamrock, is it possible? Thanks again for the amazing video
I pulled a Septimus this weekend , thinking of using him,Coldheart, and Frozen Banshee or Maybe Tayrel? What is your opinion on the better 3 of that list? thnx and much love from Canuckastan
Can you make a video using Painkeeper, Valk and S. Sentinel? I have those 3 and feel there is a way to make a great team with shield/counter up the entire time and every stun blocked. Thanks so much.
i'm actually working on this team for a week now, just need to get painkeeper to 6* now, took longer cause i had the 6* ascend arbiter missions to go trough on the 4 afinitys before i started working on painkeeper, so 4x 6* food on that first. But these speeds are gonna strip my arena team's best speed pieces, but will totally be worth it. jumping from 4 key nm to 2 key unm , comp is gonna be ME,PK, Aothar, FB, and Brakus. still don't know who's gonna be the stun target between aothar and Brakus
To avoid the affinity issue, could you hypothetically put all 3 dps champs at the SLOW speed? That way regardless of affinity, they’d all be ready for the stun? Trying to streamline this as much as possible to avoid having to gear numerous sets of champs for each affinity.
Between tomb lord, aothar, occult brawler, and frozen banshee who best fits the poisoner role. I still need to level up my pain keeper so I'd like to train up a poisoner for ultra nightmare too though it will probably be a month or so until i 6 star both and can get full masteries and decent gear
I am currently using this with Aothar Rhazin and Bulwark (50 at the moment) barely scrathing 3 key. Aothar is fully booked (booking a3 hurts his dmg sadly since he prioritizes it). I would love to see this kind of team 2 keying without crazy legos like Draco. I am a little bit concerned takign bulwark to 60 for his great increase in defense and hence lower propability ot get stunned. Rust suggested taking him to 6 star but not leveling him, but i am so far from 2 key that i doubt it makes any difference
Is this still supposed to work or was nerfed by some game updates between than and now ? I just tried to build this team, got the speeds setup as in the video, but my team keeps failing after 4-5 boss turns, they get attacked without the unkillable on.
well just build the team with aothar tanking, draco and septimus dealing damage. ranging between 37-42 on auto. 44 on manual. its a great setup which u will be able to alter depending on your roster. so a 2key is possible for nearly everyone if they got a decent roster
Amazing video. New sub here . I got a question tho, can i fit bad el as the slow boi in the comp ? would his heals blow up the way the slow boi takes the damage ? I dont have any other poisoners with masteries and 6 star besides him and Banshee.
It doesn’t work for me because maneater will be the target after turn 15... I don’t know what’s happen.. I passed the unkillable one times up to 50 and than it never works again without changes.
hp matter when boss tries to stun he target least hps if hps are similar or same he may pick based on affinity and the speeds must be very similar to posted stats or somoene may get a turn too many or get cut off
Looking for an option for Rhazin. Any suggestions???? I have maneater and painkeeper speed tuned. I have coldheart and frozen banshee. Could i use tayrel or stag knight for defense down???
Hey MurderInc. For Maneater's masteries, why take Kill Streak? Would it not make more sense to go with Deterrence in the Def tree instead? That way you get another chance to hit the CB when they stun someone.
have your speed recommendations - changed frozen banshee for kael, and draco for razhin..... but stun still changes during fight even though stun calculator says that i will only have stuns on coldheart and then frozen banshee.. painkeeper and draco are still copping stuns and wiping at 8mill dmg.... unsure what you would recommend considering the numbers are almost identical to yours...
can confirm..... doesnt work.. the stun calculator doesnt work. ive got it calculated that i should have an unkillable team but team dies at turn 6-7.. speeds are right on the suggestions. numbers are very close to yours.. however the stun is still going wherever the hell it wants. one run it starts on the soaker and then changes, next one it just goes rogue and hits maneater.. something is flawed
Hi @murderinc could you please advise if I can set up unkillable team with warlord ,skullcrusher and roshcard ? I know doompriest is the key with this set up but could I not use warlord A3 before first turn to give block debuff buff on SK so I can still be tuned with his 3 turn unkillable? Could please advise ? I do not have doompriest so I really want to have unkillable team
Hey could you possibly try an Unkillable Team with Pure DMG dealers with -FURY- set? might be some crazy numbers over 50 rounds!? Sept, shazar, Brackus etc... I know that you probably don't have much of that gear but it could be a very interesting video!
I've been trying to make this team work for a while now. I'm 3 speed off my ME and have no spd glyphs left. Just waiting for a juicy spd glyph or a new artifact and I think I'll be good to go.
MurderInc why don't you test your skills with a revive on death team and see if that's a plausible"unkillable" team, you know for those who might not have the unkillable champs yet. Like me! The best I got is warcaster, crimsonhelm and lightsworn. You think you could make an ultra nightmare clan boss team out of those?
I concur on Kael's poison... he is great early game for this, but I recently replaced him with Erinyes, who has helped me consistently 3 key the Hard Boss.
HELP! I would like to know if speed aura's can be used to get to those speeds? For example, if my lead is Lord Shazar with his +32% speed boost, I then only need to gear Maneater to 193 speed since 193 x1.32 = 254. That would make gearing much easier as I intend to use Lord Shazar, Maneater, PK, Occult Brawler and Rhazin.
@@StadtkindR skull crusher is my lead and my 124 speed champ, i use dracomorph at 189 speed and visier at 188 speed. This is still the unkillable comp that murder inc shows us, just with a counter attack to add a little more damage
@@johnpolk9153 the counter attack could throw many people off with too many heals in the wrong place or cause buffs to drop too soon..based on champs used and gear used
@@slarzyer counter attack doesn't count towards buffs falling off, you don't typically see anyone run lifesteal gear with unkillable, and outside of yannica and i think 1 other champ with leech on their a1 i don't know of anyone who heals with their a1 so again counter attack doesn't really affect the comp . I have ran this for over 2 months now and it has never failed
none there is several champs with same ability but they are percent based or pre-requirement so not reliable or usable on CB or dont work on every champ in team or have the different cooldown speeds
Is it possible to do the same team but with a roshcard the tower and a painkeeper? (I don't have maneater) If yes, is it possible to do it with only roshcard and to have the different speeds if they change? Thanks
The calculator doesn't work. I submitted info for Frozen Banshee, Maneater, Painkeeper, and two Kaels, all speed tuned to exactly what was presented in the video and tweaked my HP and defence. The calculator said Painkeeper would be stunned first and then my slow Kael, so I tried a test to see. It stunned Maneater both times. Then I tweaked it properly so that Frozen B would take the stun first and then the slow Kael, and Painkeeper was stunned instead.
Hello, can you make ukillable team having Roshcard with just lv.2 on zone of protection ( iam free to play and didnt yet have books to fully upgrade it ), Skullcrusher(full) and Pain keeper ? You think its possible ?
I'm attempting to use Brakus and Rhazin as the fast dmg dealers and have FB as the slow stun target, but i can't seem to get the early stuns away from ME/PK and onto Brakus. i think his healing from his abilities is the issue. Has anyone gotten Brakus+Rhazin combo to work with this? :(
nice video! i have ME and Rosh any idea what speed i shall put them into to make an UK ? and also for the other dmg dealers? i d appreciate it if any1 could help
Hmmm...just pulled a Me and septimus...guess those will be my next 6*. Also have Draco, BEK and Vizier to play with...now to out that calculator to work!!
I have the speeds down, but I can't get the stun set up to save my life. How does it work exactly? The calculator doesn't seem to work for me. It says one thing, but something else happens in game.
hello. i used stuncalc...HP/DEF: Nicolas 36k/2.8k, Skullcrasher 34k/3k, Draco 23k/2.5k, Tiran 34k/2.4k, Bulwark 47k/1.7k. According to calc the stun should go to Draco first and then Bulwark...but the very first one goes to Nicolas, the Tiran....the CB was void....what did i missed???
skull crusher is causeing a counterattack and throwing the entire timing off making buffs fade sooner and/or someone is healing too much during the counterattack
Stun Calculator: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yJj53WjFemCwM3AyyuYcIGVWLLH_IlKcV57kFAMk3n0/edit?usp=sharing Rust Discord: discord.gg/zSUFwAF Huge Shoutout the Man Himself!
Ayeeee thank you!
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@@slinkytreekreeper thx but I'm vegetarian
i joined the discord and did not get tetanus, 10/10
This team can work in several speed ranges. The slowest speed range that I discovered:
239...244 Maneater
215...229 Pain keeper
171...178 dd1
171...178 dd2
110...117 dd3
upd! only on green kb there is a problem, at some speeds on KB turn6 the Pain keeper use heal after kb hit. This is not a problem if you can guarantee that this turn the third DD will have the least HP% (low defense dd3, sets of immortality on other teammates, etc). Or you can use more limited speed range Pain keeper and dd1
239...244Mn / 228..229Pk / 171dd1 / 171...178dd2 / 110...117dd3
You're a hero !
and what is the speed range for NM
Can you make a team like this for hard cb? My clan can't get past normal or hard
NM CB speed range 219...238Mn / 210...214Pk / 159...163dd1 / 159...163dd2 / 103...109dd3
not tested in game but should work
Hello, thank you for the speed in NM.
I try to use the stun calculator for NM, do you know the True Damage of each turn?
I love all the work you guys do on clanboss. Mix the stun calculator with deadwoods and were looking at a one stop clanboss shop.
That's the goal! :)
For anyone looking for the written guide, you can find it here: www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/gst0b7/23_budget_unkillable_with_maneater_pain_keeper/
Thanks again to MurderInc for the shoutout and hope you guys like the thumbnail designs :)
thank you for this content. you are always giving me reasons to keep playing raid, even with all of plariums flaws.
You mean I got a use for my single man eater and my pain keepers? Thanks dude.
You can get +1 speed by 1 star speed boots
playing with this comp last whole month...
3 frozen banches + pk + Me stable 35-36 mil
2 frozen banches + kael + pk +me around 32mil
Bulwark + 2 frozen B + pk + me arround 35mil
Draco + 2 Frozen B + pk + me 40-42 mil
didn't try like
Septimus + Vizier + Draco + pk + me ..... :D
etc.....
Another way to keep stuns on target champ from beginning is to get another 2 dmg dealers in livesteel gear (which they never get chance to get stun + with Livesteel gear you have better chance to proc counter mastery on every CB aoe ) and pk and Me with highest Def and 4-5k less HP then target champ.
So, target champ as lowest def as possible and just 4-5k higher HP from second highest hp champ. So after PK heals, target champ will have lowest HP % among others.
i failed 50x in the beginning :D
This really helped me tweak it successfully. Thank you for posting this
If I wasn't running double Maneater I would definitely be using this. Super helpful and informative! Great work and thanks!
thanks for a great video again!
Now only if i could just pull that maneater..... been waiting for a year already :)
I had this idea pop into my head and I can’t stop thinking about it Would a fury set on an unkillable team do way more damage than any other composition you seem like the best guy for the job to answer this question
Thanks, Murder!
ME, PK, Rhaz, FB, OB like your advice before constantly got me 3 keys unm, but to achieve higher than that i think draco and extender will works well. Good job Murder
I have the same comp but it doesn't work. Whole team loosing unkill on second aoe and after few rounds they all die. What is the speed of the ME? Mine is 254 in full speed sets. Maybe is too slow?
This looks awesome! But the sheet won‘t work: When I download and open it it says their are some things not able to be repaired - anyone else having that problem?
Great video, thanks. Can I ask you a thing? What do you think to use Sandlashed Survivor with Pain Keeper and Maneater to use less speed on them? Have you some advice? Thanks.
Do you think we can add a Counter attack champion on this setup? I'm thinking of building it with frozen banshee +venus+valkyrie
Sadly no, the A1 turn meter boost on PK will mess up the run with her counter attacking
I know a reddit thread from a guy called rust figured out a way to make longbeard work, whiched helped me push to a 2 key using this comp, I dont know if he ever worked out a CA though, it ultimately has to do dropping PK's speed to a sweet spot
there is ways but techically that is a different comp
Hi, thank you for this video!!
If i added a Sandlashed Survivor, Occult Brawler, and Frozen Banshee, Would Sandlashed mess up the rotation with extending Buffs? Also, who would you recommend as the stun target?
I'm going to try this with the same team except I'll use Aothar instead of Kael. Hopefully I have the gear to hit those very specific speeds.
Went from 4-5 key to a 3 key unm team thanks murder! Nice video!
Awesome job, Rust! Thanks for giving him a shout out, Murder
Hey murder, I got my me to 210 speed, pk at 200. I got them fully booked out today. Tried with kale, turvold, banshee,brakus and your coldheart. It gets messed up around 6 to 10. All other players under 150 speed. Im not trying to do the top 3 matches normal brutal, but not even doing that. I'd send the info sheet on those 2. But don't see attach item...
Hello Murder! Great content as always. Is it possible to use with a CA champ?
Will Roshcard the Tower work? I don't have Maneater..
Very nice indeed,not at the stage to use this info rn but not far away,just need some champs lol.
Oh shout-out to Russ for creating that calculator,that must of took some doing.
Love the content and I'm really glad we've got someone like you and your accociated players here digging deep and solving parts of the game.
Quick question, the revive on death comps, I'm trying to get one together with 2 crimson helms and a shamrock, is it possible?
Thanks again for the amazing video
i have a video using shamrock chelm and lightsworn yes!
@@MurderIncRaid is it possible without lightsworn?
Didnt coldbrew do a vid on this team like a month ago
i would assume many people have covered this since this team has been around for over a half year
I pulled a Septimus this weekend , thinking of using him,Coldheart, and Frozen Banshee or Maybe Tayrel? What is your opinion on the better 3 of that list? thnx and much love from Canuckastan
This is really amazing! Unfortunately I do not have a maneater...
Can you make a video using Painkeeper, Valk and S. Sentinel? I have those 3 and feel there is a way to make a great team with shield/counter up the entire time and every stun blocked. Thanks so much.
i'm actually working on this team for a week now, just need to get painkeeper to 6* now, took longer cause i had the 6* ascend arbiter missions to go trough on the 4 afinitys before i started working on painkeeper, so 4x 6* food on that first.
But these speeds are gonna strip my arena team's best speed pieces, but will totally be worth it.
jumping from 4 key nm to 2 key unm , comp is gonna be ME,PK, Aothar, FB, and Brakus. still don't know who's gonna be the stun target between aothar and Brakus
To avoid the affinity issue, could you hypothetically put all 3 dps champs at the SLOW speed? That way regardless of affinity, they’d all be ready for the stun? Trying to streamline this as much as possible to avoid having to gear numerous sets of champs for each affinity.
Between tomb lord, aothar, occult brawler, and frozen banshee who best fits the poisoner role. I still need to level up my pain keeper so I'd like to train up a poisoner for ultra nightmare too though it will probably be a month or so until i 6 star both and can get full masteries and decent gear
always dropping that value thanks, man.
Hello! Thank you for the amazing Tipp. I don´t have a Rhazin, is it good to use a coffin smasher instead?
Bulwark is a pretty easy to get RARE that has HP burn and chance to extend the poisons
love it...thx for that...one qurstion...pain keeper must be in lvl 60 right?
Wondering if frozen banshee, gravechill killer and coldheart would yield decent results.
This is so clever. Maneater is the only void epic I don’t have but good to know this is possible
I am currently using this with Aothar Rhazin and Bulwark (50 at the moment) barely scrathing 3 key. Aothar is fully booked (booking a3 hurts his dmg sadly since he prioritizes it). I would love to see this kind of team 2 keying without crazy legos like Draco. I am a little bit concerned takign bulwark to 60 for his great increase in defense and hence lower propability ot get stunned. Rust suggested taking him to 6 star but not leveling him, but i am so far from 2 key that i doubt it makes any difference
hail the god of clan boss ty for the vid
Is this still supposed to work or was nerfed by some game updates between than and now ? I just tried to build this team, got the speeds setup as in the video, but my team keeps failing after 4-5 boss turns, they get attacked without the unkillable on.
Would occult brawler work in place of kael.... I guess if ya make sure he takes the stun?
Hi! Great content! I have 2 roshcards. What speeds do I need on them to make the work for UNM? Thanks
Great Info sir finally a team I can put together ;-)
well just build the team with aothar tanking, draco and septimus dealing damage. ranging between 37-42 on auto. 44 on manual. its a great setup which u will be able to alter depending on your roster. so a 2key is possible for nearly everyone if they got a decent roster
To aviod CB stun do we raise Defense and or HP?My whole team on the stun selection.-Awesome videos ya make.Thanks for the tips!!
when the boss stuns he will try to target the person with least hps if u keep hps and defense about the same everywhere damage should balance
Amazing video. New sub here . I got a question tho, can i fit bad el as the slow boi in the comp ? would his heals blow up the way the slow boi takes the damage ? I dont have any other poisoners with masteries and 6 star besides him and Banshee.
yeah bad el would be an issue with the healing for sure!
It doesn’t work for me because maneater will be the target after turn 15... I don’t know what’s happen.. I passed the unkillable one times up to 50 and than it never works again without changes.
hp matter when boss tries to stun he target least hps if hps are similar or same he may pick based on affinity and the speeds must be very similar to posted stats or somoene may get a turn too many or get cut off
Looking for an option for Rhazin. Any suggestions???? I have maneater and painkeeper speed tuned. I have coldheart and frozen banshee. Could i use tayrel or stag knight for defense down???
Hey MurderInc. For Maneater's masteries, why take Kill Streak? Would it not make more sense to go with Deterrence in the Def tree instead? That way you get another chance to hit the CB when they stun someone.
With ME Block Debuff, the stunned target will never get stunned.
u dont really want to add any attacks or turn meter to the team cause the buffs will fade at wrong times and/or healing may vary
This is amazing !!! thanks for sharing. I'm trying to make this work only with Santa ... something is off any advice ? :) many thanks!
be sure to include to your input defense/hps numbers that you included any defense or hps auras and be sure any healing is going to the right places
have your speed recommendations - changed frozen banshee for kael, and draco for razhin..... but stun still changes during fight even though stun calculator says that i will only have stuns on coldheart and then frozen banshee.. painkeeper and draco are still copping stuns and wiping at 8mill dmg.... unsure what you would recommend considering the numbers are almost identical to yours...
can confirm..... doesnt work.. the stun calculator doesnt work. ive got it calculated that i should have an unkillable team but team dies at turn 6-7.. speeds are right on the suggestions. numbers are very close to yours.. however the stun is still going wherever the hell it wants. one run it starts on the soaker and then changes, next one it just goes rogue and hits maneater.. something is flawed
keep going like this man , that mean lot 4 us ... respect
hey man great video. Im looking for an alternative to raizen...can i use tayrel?
Why can't I input numbers into the stun calculator?
Wonder how much a maneater, painkeeper, bek, rhaz and viz team would do
Hi @murderinc could you please advise if I can set up unkillable team with warlord ,skullcrusher and roshcard ? I know doompriest is the key with this set up but could I not use warlord A3 before first turn to give block debuff buff on SK so I can still be tuned with his 3 turn unkillable? Could please advise ? I do not have doompriest so I really want to have unkillable team
Hello, it's a very good job.
I have a little question for toi.
It is possible to make a same team with Roshcard.
Thanks you for all.
Once I'll be able to gather such speeds I'll defo try this. thanks!
Hey could you possibly try an Unkillable Team with Pure DMG dealers with -FURY- set? might be some crazy numbers over 50 rounds!? Sept, shazar, Brackus etc... I know that you probably don't have much of that gear but it could be a very interesting video!
Yeah I could 1-key because I use Gnishak and Harima as my dps
Coldheart is here for damage dealing only? Would drexthar be taken instead of her (not sure Who bring the most damage out of those too to be honest)
Is there any reason that skullcrusher wouldnt work as the slow champ for spirit affinity?
Does Septimus rhazin and fb as the 3 flex spots sound like 2 key territory?
I've been trying to make this team work for a while now. I'm 3 speed off my ME and have no spd glyphs left. Just waiting for a juicy spd glyph or a new artifact and I think I'll be good to go.
MurderInc why don't you test your skills with a revive on death team and see if that's a plausible"unkillable" team, you know for those who might not have the unkillable champs yet. Like me! The best I got is warcaster, crimsonhelm and lightsworn. You think you could make an ultra nightmare clan boss team out of those?
i have made a revive team before! i have a video on it. the team works fine but it requires shamrock
I concur on Kael's poison... he is great early game for this, but I recently replaced him with Erinyes, who has helped me consistently 3 key the Hard Boss.
monk is better then kael
@@slarzyer never had much luck with monk.
Can this be done with roshcard instead of maneater? I got venus, vizier so damage is off the charts if i can make the unkillable work 😢
I wonder If I add Martyr in the team will it work better what u guys think ?
I have got the speeds correct but it still don’t work
HELP! I would like to know if speed aura's can be used to get to those speeds? For example, if my lead is Lord Shazar with his +32% speed boost, I then only need to gear Maneater to 193 speed since 193 x1.32 = 254. That would make gearing much easier as I intend to use Lord Shazar, Maneater, PK, Occult Brawler and Rhazin.
shazar's aura is for arena only
i love it.. the two champs i can not get in over a year of playing...
Thank you for this comp, i built it and added skull crusher for counter attack. I'm a solid 2 key now. 38-42 million a key
Hi John, can you please say which 2 other jumps do you use? And is Skull Crusher the camp for the stun?
if u added a counter attack that is actually a different comp
@@StadtkindR skull crusher is my lead and my 124 speed champ, i use dracomorph at 189 speed and visier at 188 speed. This is still the unkillable comp that murder inc shows us, just with a counter attack to add a little more damage
@@johnpolk9153 the counter attack could throw many people off with too many heals in the wrong place or cause buffs to drop too soon..based on champs used and gear used
@@slarzyer counter attack doesn't count towards buffs falling off, you don't typically see anyone run lifesteal gear with unkillable, and outside of yannica and i think 1 other champ with leech on their a1 i don't know of anyone who heals with their a1 so again counter attack doesn't really affect the comp . I have ran this for over 2 months now and it has never failed
Lol still waiting on pain killer
Good video thanks
Mad thanks to you and rus for this! 👊🕺🤯👏👏👏
ARGH!! The calc is not working for my first two stun targets
Great video...anybody knows why my PK dying at round 11? She heals everybody but never herself. Any idea why? Ty!
Murderinc I have all those champions but do not have a pain keeper. Is there a good replacement for her?
none there is several champs with same ability but they are percent based or pre-requirement so not reliable or usable on CB or dont work on every champ in team or have the different cooldown speeds
Is it possible to do the same team but with a roshcard the tower and a painkeeper? (I don't have maneater) If yes, is it possible to do it with only roshcard and to have the different speeds if they change? Thanks
rosh may run into affinity issues ... but it may work a little if tuned accuratly
Maneater - Painkeeper - Aothar (or OB) - Frozen Banshee - Bulwark
Hi Ivan, do test this comp and if yes how much dmg do you make?
The calculator doesn't work. I submitted info for Frozen Banshee, Maneater, Painkeeper, and two Kaels, all speed tuned to exactly what was presented in the video and tweaked my HP and defence. The calculator said Painkeeper would be stunned first and then my slow Kael, so I tried a test to see. It stunned Maneater both times. Then I tweaked it properly so that Frozen B would take the stun first and then the slow Kael, and Painkeeper was stunned instead.
I had same problem
i gave the link to rusts discord so you can ask about any stun issues you have. many people have had it work flawlessly
If frozen banshee is in Kael's position she won't ever place a poison on the boss
Calculator says coldheart first 2 stuns and Frozen Banshee the rest of the way, but only Coldheart is getting stuns...
Hello, can you make ukillable team having Roshcard with just lv.2 on zone of protection ( iam free to play and didnt yet have books to fully upgrade it ), Skullcrusher(full) and Pain keeper ? You think its possible ?
Is there a way for me to replace maneater with roschard the tower? i don't have skullcrusher so can't use the other roschard comp
I'm attempting to use Brakus and Rhazin as the fast dmg dealers and have FB as the slow stun target, but i can't seem to get the early stuns away from ME/PK and onto Brakus. i think his healing from his abilities is the issue. Has anyone gotten Brakus+Rhazin combo to work with this? :(
Thks much great info
nice video! i have ME and Rosh any idea what speed i shall put them into to make an UK ? and also for the other dmg dealers? i d appreciate it if any1 could help
Can you do unkillable with 2 or 3 pain keepers and a war caster??
Budget et unkillable nightmare why do maneater get stun on turn 5, pls hlp
So, what would be the solution for affinity boss? 🤔
The Block Debuffs should deal with Spirit's Decrease Speed if that's what you mean.
@@misfit28 i mean the target for the stun mostly, but i checked i coldbrews video that you will need other champions of weak affinity for that
Hmmm...just pulled a Me and septimus...guess those will be my next 6*. Also have Draco, BEK and Vizier to play with...now to out that calculator to work!!
I have eater and keeper. I also thinking about rhazin, fb and keal or Altan
any chance to set up a team with Bulwark being the stun dummy? i know you said to use ATK champs... just curious
as long as you can get the stun to target him its fine. atk champs are just easiest to work with
@@MurderIncRaid if u make him the leader dont forget to add the defense aura to the posted defense row
I have the speeds down, but I can't get the stun set up to save my life. How does it work exactly? The calculator doesn't seem to work for me. It says one thing, but something else happens in game.
defense and hps are key
Is there any good speed solution to do a 2 key ultra nm with Valkyrie, Sandlashed Survivor, Bad El, Reargueard and Vezier;
171-189
hello. i used stuncalc...HP/DEF: Nicolas 36k/2.8k, Skullcrasher 34k/3k, Draco 23k/2.5k, Tiran 34k/2.4k, Bulwark 47k/1.7k. According to calc the stun should go to Draco first and then Bulwark...but the very first one goes to Nicolas, the Tiran....the CB was void....what did i missed???
Lmaoo i feel u bro. I used also the calculator and my team is not working. Fckkkk
skull crusher is causeing a counterattack and throwing the entire timing off making buffs fade sooner and/or someone is healing too much during the counterattack
What would the speeds have to be for brutal?
That team does not look like it should work, there's some serious black magic fuckery going here.
Would 2 frozen banshees work?