Professor: Sandra, you better have a good excuse as to why you haven't even started your final year project with only a week left before the deadline. Sandra: I did finish it. My dog ate it. Professor: .... Sandra: I'm just telling the truth that's too hot to handle!!!
Hot tip, to paraphrase Dara O'brien, if someone calls themselves a "nutritionist" take whatever advice they give you with the biggest grain of salt... There's a reason why they use the title "Nutritionist" instead of the legally protected title "Dietician" because a dietician not only has to earn their title, they can't be self-proclaimed, but also dieticians actually have to present credible evidence and sources to support their claims. It's like the difference between a "Fiduciary" and "Financial Advisor" or a "Dentist" and a "Toothiologist".
@@pessimisticvideographer5039 I ask my local Scientologists, and they usually also help me out with my thetans while I'm there. It's like a little mid morning tune-up!
You are literally irrational. Like, literally, in every sense of the word, you are objectively not rational. Literally one of the parts of my job is to teach teenagers proof that you're irrational. Maybe step out of this one, root 2.
the homoeroticism of being so collectively afraid of women that you can't touch anything that says estrogen regardless of it's chemical makeup (makeup! D:) or observed behavior in men
it was an obvious joke. It's making fun of men who are so deep in their """"manliness""" that they refuse to even eat something that has plant estrogen in it.@@mythicalmeanderings
@@mythicalmeanderings aside from loose cultural connotations, what genuine biological proof is there that femininity and masculinity are the natural order for females and males (respectively)?
I don't know why so many people concern themselves with estrogen and testosterone levels. They should be really concerned about how out of whack everyone is with the four humours in this century. I had myself tested by my local Apothecary and he said my choleric levels were way below what they should be. Bloodletting and blistering saved my life.
“Well?! You won’t bleed him, you won’t cup him, you won’t divine his humors; for all you charlatans know, this poor man is both phlegmatic and bilious!”
When I was in middle school and learning about the importance of citing your sources, I always groaned because it meant more work. But shit like this shows how important it is.
you don't have to MLA cite your youtube videos, that's why. if i had to do that shit i probably wouldn't source my videos because not even god can put me through that pain. only my college professors can. when they aren't busy brainwashing me, of course. good avatar btw, great album
This is a five year old video but there is an important topic to be added to this discussion. The original idea that Soy feminizes men comes from White Supremacist beliefs in the 1800's that claimed men from East Asia were more "Feminine" than white men. The view of East Asian men led men in academic institutions to link it to the soy that was a large part of the diet in those cultures, similar to how they used the shape of skulls to "prove" that Black Men were less intelligent than White Men.
I paused at exactly 10:00 and the commentor legitimately wrote "I'm fairly sure also the only heterosexual out of all of them is the asian dude which explains why he has the highest level testosterone." Eugene (The asian guy in question) is gay, he has a husband, and everyone else in the group is straight with wives. This cracked me up
I’m a woman and the past 5 years I’ve been working at a sushi restaurant. I eat tons of tofu, I literally drink soy sauce like it’s water and I bathe in miso soup. A year ago I grew a third breast and as of today I’m the proud owner of 2 vaginas.
This is great news for the male to female transgender community! No more need for hormones or surgery, just drown yourself in a tide of soy and vaginas will appear!
This entire sentence is so stupid. It implies that there are disputable facts but a fact cannot be disputable aside from disputes about alternatives to reality (at least as long as we all inhabit the same reality) since the possibility of such an alternative would mean it's not a fact (or at least that we don't know yet).
@@ginkgothestink-o6949 True, it would instead say something like "In all the studies done on the jaundice caused by watching Shrek, we found no conclusive evidence to prove that there is a correlation or that watching Shrek can cause jaundice." Which is basically science for "there are literally no recorded cases of this being true. So we're 99.99999999999% sure that this just doesn't happen."
i can never take “alpha” guys/accounts seriously because as a person who writes and consumes fan fiction, the only thing the words “alpha” and “beta” bring to mind is omegaverse fanfic
So called heterosexual "alpha males" when they smell the pheromones of a beta in heat: Side note I hope you got a kick out of this comment because writing it took at least three years off my life
Me too, but my mind just remember video game stuff Alpha/Beta? I think of a game in early development, Sigma? The (once scary, but then laughable) villain from MegaMan X, Omega? The hilarious robot from Sonic Heroes... And so on, these names are just funny codes to me
I'm a trans girl and when I heard soy feminized people, I went slightly bonkers and ate like 5 kilos of soy beans and drank about 1 carton of soy Milk. Conclusion: real real REAL bad tummy ache and didn't leave the bathroom for about 8 hours
if all of these guys are so scared of estrogen why do all of them consume dairy, something we all consume on a regular basis that contains actual animal estrogen and has an actual affect on our hormones???
Man this bodybuilder would hate to see what we've done to corn, tomatoes, bananas, grapes, and _idly flips though the pages of an agricultural history book..._
Not just every single plant but also every single animal product you have ever eaten has already been genetically modified over the course of thousands of years.
I had always figured one of the reasons people assumed soy to be feminizing because of the toxic masculine hatred towards vegetarians, but I suppose that is just one of them
I think "soy boys" would be an endearing term for farm boys in my conservative state of Indiana, considering half the state is covered in soy bean fields.
I'd watch that reality show. "I'm Ricky Pete" *cuts to him wrangling a gator* "That's my brother Big Jim" *cuts to him driving a combine harvester* "And his son, Jimmy" *cuts to them celebrating* "And we're the soyboys" *plays heavy metal banjo theme*
This is extra funny to me because I’m Chinese and these people never even think about the fact that there are cultures that base their entire diet on soy products.
No no, they think about it a lot. But hear me out for a second, they are racists. They don't care about that because they already think Asian people are worst in some way and therefore see it as a consequence of soy. It's not that they don't think, it's that they are bad at thinking because the knowledge of the world they base their worldviews around is stupid to begin with
@Disney is the Devil Ohno, Im a big ALPHA that believes in BETAS because the BETAS ate a bean that I don't like. I'm so MANLY that I'm scared of 1 (one) bean that hasn't been proven to affect testosterone levels. I. Am. Afraid. Of. A. BEAN. This bean is terrorizing my life, keeping my family captive. Please send help. The bean has a gun.
@Disney is the Devil Please, could you use something like "beta cuck snowflake" in your next post ? I need this to complete my "right wing braindead guy bingo".
I remember being 17 and being subscribed to Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson and Milo Yiannopoulos and Gavin McInnes. I am so goddamn glad I jumped off that train when I did.
I would also like to point out that "nutritionist" isn't a job title or profession. The actual profession you're looking for is "dietitian." People who refer to themselves as "nutritionists" do so because they legally can't describe themselves as dietitians because they don't actually have degrees in anything (at least, not anything related to diet science), and would, therefore, be committing fraud if they did and could be sued or even imprisoned. So, if you see someone calling themselves a "nutritionist," that person is a con artist, and now, you'll know better.
I think it depends where you're from. Here in Australia, one of my best friends has done a uni degree and is a nutritionist. It was a 3 year degree as well so not some random 3 month course.
@@f_yu Many people who are Nutritionists will have degrees, but the original poster is correct that the title of 'Nutritionist' isn't protected by law*. So you don't need a qualification to use the title, 'Dietician' in contrast is protected by law. So not all Nutritionists are quacks, but also not all Nutritionists have any qualifications to back up their claims. *Apart from in Canada, where it is protected, but not to the same degree.
Can we all also agree that shrieking about soy is the adult version of “girls are gross and have cooties”? The whole concept that anything feminine is bad is peak misogyny.
Bad take. If it were true, that soy did increase estrogen, there would be plenty of reasons for men to avoid it. Just like how there are reasons many women would not want to take testosterone supplements.
25:46 also notable thay when reading kosko's article he states that Eugene (the Asian guy) is "probably the only heterosexual" when he's exactly the one that came out as gay last year. They just had to make yet another conclusion based on stereptypes that obviously turned out to be wrong.
"Nutritionist" is not a protected occupation and anyone can claim to be a Nutritionist! The scientifically recognized profession in the field of nutrition that actually requires a degree is called "Dietitian". Please always be skeptical of self-proclaimed "Nutritionists" "If Dietician _is like_ Dentist then Nutritionist _is like_ Toothyologist," -Dara O'Briain
Thank you! I'm studying to be a registered dietitian right now (I've been in college for 4 years and I'm applying to interships so hopefully in a year I can be a dietician). There is actually a push to change the title from Regestered Dietitian to Registered Dietitian Nutritionist so we can seize the title from people who don't know what they're talking about (though many have mixed feelings about it)
It's crazy that people think they're more in danger of hormonal imbalance from drinking soy milk than drinking a pregnant mother cows' milk that's meant for her baby, which has ACTUAL mammalian estrogen. Beer has more phytoestrogens than soy, but as we know, phytoestrogens don't affect us like that, but if we're to claim it does, then beer is the least manly thing you could drink.
Imagine if soy actually mimicked estrogen, we could control our menstrual cycle by drinking soymilk and eating tofu at the right times. We could use soy as a contraceptive LOL. But seriously don't you think women would have noticed if soy actually did this...
@@shotgun6X I was joking, I was doing a parody of the alt-right idiots who believe such crap, but I will delete my comment in case anyone else thinks I was serious.
A 12oz can of beer has 13 times more phytoestrogen amounts than one serving of soy lol. Not that phytoestrogens have anything to do with anything. I just find it funny that people freak out about soy but not beer.
Because they're not the ones who came up with the idea, they're just regurgitating back something they read online or saw in a video somewhere, they heard it and without doing any research of their own they then spread it as fact, often embellishing with their own additions and next thing you know all your neighbors are fucking lunatics.
Ryan White don't think you're making a proper comparison to soy. Maybe if the shit in beer was isolated, concentrated, and deemed a health food to be eaten throughout the day. Here: ua-cam.com/video/9KDMqqCR3sg/v-deo.html
Is it bad that prscutto or however you spell it is more of a comfort food for me that fucking chocolate, i think I'll push out my first kidney stone at age 20 or so
Turns out unless you actually hold a standard that forces people to do so, most people are fine letting their given authority figures think for them (regardless of political bent). Also yeah, most people suck at research. Kinda why peer review is so important.
@@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa yeah, for instance the poeple here in the comments not pointing out this dudes has less testosterone than the 5th percentile. Or that pytostrogens actually mimic estrogen (it's literally even on wikipedia). They just give personal atacks to "the evil righwingers" and repeat what they heard in the video doing NO RESEARCH. Most people dont aave the brain for critical thinking (specially amongst the official media narrative ie leftism). I would say 1 in 100 at most.
@@Amber-nz3sj Yeah you can, but his point is that psuedo scientific groups that encourage their member to do their own research, often suck at gaining legitimate research.
Confusing phytoestrogens with estrogen just because they are shaped the same is like confusing a floppy disc with a slice of cheese. Sure, they will both fit in a disc drive, but they ain't doing the same thing once they're in there.
Oh god. Endocrinology is one of the most complex fields of medicine that exist. People have pointed out BMI scores are often a bit sketchy? BMI scores are goddamn stone tablets from God Mountain in relation to the complexity of hormones and their interactions within individual people. Oi.
Eight to twelve years of education and residence to legally help people understand and regulate their unique endocrine systems and health vs. a chart without citations on some alt-right blogs written by some gynophobic dudes? 🤔 What makes you more qualified to talk about estrogen?
I'm transgender, and it's common knowledge in the community (because of HRT self-medication) that estrogen alone won't do SQUAT regarding feminization if you don't take testosterone blockers. Otherwise, testosterone in your body will simply overwhelm any effect estrogens you take might've had.
Exactly. Looking at the average test level is like looking at the average height of a man and thinking your body is fucked up because your genetics made you an inch shorter.
Same on the trans issue: I was gobbling 2 mg of estrogen and a weak dose of spiro (have went to the doctor and gotten a higher dosage) a day for months AND have been on a vegan diet for at least two years whilst still having a dark, coarse beard growing in a matter of an one-and-a-half week with little effects. Will take these claims with a grain of salt or 1-up my game as a ~soy boi~
This is the video that got me out of the pipeline. I had seen youtubers i respected and believed say that soy was evil and feminising and accepted it as true, thinking myself as a sceptic for doing so just because the 'SJW's said otherwise. Seeing something id taken for granted be so obviously shown to be false and built on lies made me start to wonder whether there were any credible arguments against the other things I believed to be obviously true (99% of which were most definitely not). Thank you Harry for saving me from delving deeper into the pipeline and stopping me from stewing in my own impotent rage for any longer than i already had done
The way Paul's videos are always shot with him uncomfortably close to the wall, and with the camera ever so slightly tilted down at him, it makes it feel like he's a tiny geography teacher lecturing at a tall person who has him cornered against a map.
@@llawliet5211not even the past tho rlly, more like an alternate reality where their ideologies are the norm. Too many of their beliefs contradict the practices of the times they want to “go back to” for it to be a feasible solution.
@@undercookedtoast1479 this has always been the conservative agenda the past was way fucking worse for everyone interms of social mobility and just general workers rights and treatment but the conservatives will fucking AO3 their way into “the past is great”
In one of the screenshots you share in this video, of manosphere... men... reacting to the Try Guys data, at 10:00, Kosko says: "I'm fairly sure also the only heterosexual out of all of them is the Asian dude which explains why he is the only one with a normal (though low) range." I draw this to your attention now because that Asian dude VERY PUBLICLY came out as gay about two months ago.
@tinylilmatt it's a huge deal in Korea, where his parents are from, and in Texas, where he grew up, and on the internet, where the trolls live and where he publishes his work so... I think coming out was probably a huge deal for him.
tinylilmatt Yes bc as we all know only people that support a channel will visit &/or comment on it and no one in the whole world ever gets killed over being gay anymore...except in the places where it's still illegal & can get you killed...not to mention all the nut jobs in the world... My point being, in this instance/on this topic I appreciate that you think no one cares anymore, makes it seem as tho you don't care...but that doesn't change the fact that you're incorrect, it's still a much bigger deal than it should be for many people in many places
"omg hhomberguy its a joke take a joke soyboy is all joke" hhomberguy literally shows people in this video who take it seriously and is very obviously making this a response towards people who do actually think its real. And jokes do normalize sentiments, anything said enough times becomes the truth to people who cant dig deeper and that's dangerous.
At the same time satan, (lol), I think that it’s worth making fun of the fact that people actually think this way. As long as you’re clear about what you think in reality, I feel you should be free to chastise however you like.
@@AmazingStoryDewd Tell me, esteemed troll, what precisely was untrue in this video? Point out to me, specifically, what was untrue or inaccurate in this video.
By the way, for someone with some chemistry knowledge, saying the phytooestrogens and oestrogen "look similar" is like saying my black cat looks like my black pillow. They're both black, fluffy and round, but that's about it.
Well, according to Wikipedia "The similarities, at molecular level, of an estrogen and a phytoestrogen allow them to mildly mimic and sometimes act as an antagonist of estrogen."
It always makes me think of chirality and our chemistry teacher giving the example of thalidomide scandal, on how having the same molecular formula does not mean it would have the same effects, let alone molecules that are "kinda similar", when mirror image molecules can cause different results.
0:24 - It's true. I am a leftist because of soy. I was just sitting around, minding my own business, loving capitalism and enjoying the free market in a café when a soy truck became overturned and all the milk flooded in and turned me to socialism!
@@melvint-p9500 there's noting i hate more than having to manage an entire way of thinking just too many things to manage i can barely manage myself let alone billions of people
Honestly one of the funniest parts of this myth is that more estrogen DOESN’T decrease testosterone. The testosterone would overpower the estrogen. That’s literally the reason trans women taking hormones need to take a T blocker
@@seigeengine, that's also sort of true, plenty of people could have abnormal hormone levels that are normal for them. If you have a nominally high estrogen level but aren't experiencing any effects from it, you're fine.
@@lunarlegion5518 fuck is this, people having an intellectual discussion on a topic and being respectful to eachother when the other points out their mistake? UA-cam blasphemy I tell ya
Have you noticed? Silly meaningless SHORT replies always get lots of likes? They've got to be short for slow moving minds. Are you sure that your name is Witt? Ah..2 letters T. That makes it OK.
I'm from a country where soy isn't really used in cooking or foods. It's virtually inexistent in our cuisine. Yet I still have supple man boobs and ample leftist views. Curious.
God, I wish soy would make me girly, when I first heard about soy being feminizing I was so excited! but then I learned more truth on the matter. Facts really don't care about my feelings :
Yeah it suck. Really the best and most reliable way I found to get a feminizing effect as a wannabe femboy is just cutting red meat (or really all meat) from your diet. It reduces T and you kinda get the same effect
@@yrdeft9774 There's a beautiful irony about the comment above this one being: Every time. A: "X is true" B: "X is not true, and here is why." A: "Hahaha I was just joking I wasn't being serious stop making me look dumb"
I know this is an old video but I also do want to point out that there is no requirement of education or certification to call yourself a nutritionist in the United States. This contracts to a dietician, which is a specific set of education and qualifications. Literally anyone can say they are a nutritionist so that’s always a red flag if that’s the strongest “qualification” that someone has.
I've read several people defending Paul basically saying; "Well, this stuff isn't his specialty, but when he talks about SJWs and immigrants he makes loads of good points!" The fact that PJW is okay with blatantly manipulating the sources he uses so it fits in with his narrative is surely a bad sign for the rest of his content, regardless of the topic.
Yeah. It's fine to be wrong about stuff that's not your specialty. But you can't use that defense while simultaneously claiming to be presenting the truth.
Kolbe Howard Some of the criticisms towards SJWs are valid, but I find these anti-SJW channels and their followers have become just as easily wound up by things as the people they criticise. The new Star Wars films being "SJW propaganda" seems to be a particularly popular topic of choice at the moment for them.
The thing is, none of these areas are his speciality, because he's never actually studied them in any sort of depth beyond the conspirasphere and blogs. None of these anti-fems and most of the far-right youtubers and the skeptics have any understanding of what they're talking about because most of them haven't studied the topics at all, read any of the relevant material, and those that have studied a hard science, which is all well and good, but that doesn't make you any sort of authority on social sciences or philisophical concepts etc. I still cringe at Armoured Skeptic's "post-modernism" video, and all the other sheep bleeting "cultural Marxist" and "Frankfurt School" who don't know who Adorno is and haven't read any of their work, and then, like PJW, go on to make critiques of modern culture in a similar vein to how the Frankfurt School, particularly Adorno (I think), critiqued it, only they blame those very "Cultural Marxists" for what is actually the fault of neoliberal (I wonder if TL;DR has learned the meaning of this yet) capitalism.
And the fact PJW's work on immigration makes him a borderline-Nazi. The guy is a dye in the wool racist. And I'm someone that gets into arguments with the sjws on my side all the time. PJW is just a racist repugnant piece of shit.
I'm NEVER going to willingly put SOY in my body! 😤 Not because of the whole soy-boy thing. That's dumb and pseudo science... I'm just allergic to soy. ┐('～`;)┌
*Anybody* using "soyboy" to insult anybody is a *chimp* (cue agitated chimp sounds) And what defines a chimp? They're territorial, mean-spirited and primitive. Nazis derived their social Darwinism from chimps. What defines a rational human? Well, quite clearly the ability to function *above* the basic needs of a chimp. "Soyboy" is a chimp-level "rebuttal". It's not found in academia or any level of mature and educated debate. I'll tell you another truth. Trying to out-chimp other chimps is never going to lead to any progress of humanity.
I feel like you started to get close to this without saying it... but considering that soy is a staple food in Asia feels like a dog whistle for anti Asian racism. They're telling you this one food makes you a lesser man, which would imply that men from Asia.... connect the dots. And some people are actually just repeating this not knowing the hate they're spreading.
@@Tabish_Nooristani MSG is not harmful. Yeah, look into it: surprise: racism and xenophobia and bad 'science' also factored into the panic. I bet some of the people claiming to not be able to eat Chinese food also eat bags of Doritos... surprise: MSG is used in tons of seasonings. Glutamic acid is also naturally occuring in significant quantities in many meat and animal products (ie eggs and dairy).
I eat a criminally low amount of veg, I'd think my diet has zero soy based products and I've got to tell you, my man tits are still unfortunately voluptuous
Well, there used to be a guide floating around for stuff to eat and drink if you're unable to get actual proper hormones, back in the early '00s. They were supposed to help a bit, as in be better than nothing. They weren't supposed to be as effective as actual hormones. Allegedly eating cooked animal ovaries were also supposed to help, which makes sense if cooking doesn't damage the hormones. I was interested because I had been bullied for being "too manly" for a girl. I never got around to trying the stuff on account of being too poor, and having been shamed by my parents too much to consider birth control hormones an option even though I wouldn't be taking them for having any sex.
@@thj_5046 if that was true hrt wouldn't work for trans masculine people. Since that is literally just taking extra testosterone as an injection or a gel.
@@brook_angel man idk dude but i believe it doesnt just work with food. i did a shit ton of research on that like 2 years ago i donz remember it well no more. might be very possibly wrong tho. no hard feelings bro
I love the irony of how Paul works for InfoWars a site known for calling people “Sheeple” and his only source for soy causing lower Testosterone was a paper studying sheep (which weren’t even eating soy).
I was doing other things while listening to it in background & just happened to glance up while he was 'trying' to cut thru the cuffs - followed by a wtf?! moment lol
Is that what's meant to be happening? God, I feel so silly now. For months now, I've been trying to decode what's meant to be happening in the background... and it was kidnapping. '='
@@Arrakiz666 you're strawmanning my beliefs to shit m8, and your for some reason guessing i didn't say anything. this is the exact mentality of the left i hate, you asume a whole bunch of bulshit its redicules. i miss read you earlier point because i was high as fuck but i what i meant to say is that i don't associate with the right either i'm actually fairly left of center and i dont know why your assuming and saying were "buddies".
So you were mentally ill as a child, and your abhorrent mother didn't realize? Sad. Good thing is that there's still good people who produce rope for you, so you can add to the statistic.
@Disney is the Devil So basically the point you're getting at is that men with low testosterone are bad because you think they're like women and you don't like women?
I must say, I used to think soy caused raised estrogen and lowered testosterone in males. hbomberguy, thank you for educating me. I have been relieved from my ignorance a little bit more. I'm a trans dude, and I was honestly pretty scared of eating too much soy. The last thing I want is more of a hormone that I instinctively feel shouldn't be in my body
Dude we’re in the exact same boat. I’m also a trans guy, and for the longest time I used to avoid certain foods and binge others because I thought they’d raise my T or something, and I avoided soy products. Rock on dude, eat some celebratory tofu
@@EddieJrDigiarts "in my opinion" dude read into body dysmorphia among trans folk, as well as studies regarding their brains and brain behavior as correlating w/ their gender. science backs the fact that being trans is nothing new and not just some high level body self esteem issues. also, dude saying u support trans folk while invalidating their existence just doesn't work. it's back handed and makes it seem like u view them more as simply confused teens rather than knowledgable individuals who have struggled w/ the matter of their gender presentation for much or the entirety of their lives
@@EddieJrDigiarts "I don't fear you nor hate you. I respect your rights." "I don't understand you and I don't respect you. Your existence is INCORRECT. Fuck you".
My father is very conservative, so is my brother in law and they FARM soy beans. Both are not what someone would call feminine; they are a guy's guy. They eat soy. It doesn't change a thing about them.
@@JoeyCentral Fermented soy products may contain a lesser amount of phytoestrogens, but due to the process of fermentation these are more bioavailable and thus should have an even greater hormonal impact than the ones in unfermented soy.
This video has almost 10,000 dislikes...and its just a debunking of all the bullshit they’ve spewed. Literally you’re just pointing out that PJW is misreading the studies, is not looking at enough studies, and the sources cited can be not credible. It’s a very well done response and should be respected but instead its pummeled with dislikes because you’re disagreeing with PJW.
There's this moronic argument going around here that pointing out that an insult is nonsensical, is a childish waste of time. Despite the fact that I don't understand Zombie's point, what exactly is wrong with that? Do you prefer kids to be offended rather than confuzed when people insult them?
ZombieZoo1000 Except the fact that multiple people featured in this video literally tried to prove it isn’t just an insult with dumb studies ... this isn’t just an insult to them and you know it.
My grandad is lactose intolerant, he's been drinking soy milk for years in tea, coffee, has it on his cereal. He's an SAS veteran and honestly one of the toughest guys I know. He's well into his seventies and is way stronger than me.
Beer makes me sick, but I noticed that the more beer my macho friends drink, the more open they become to making out with another guy. Some machos require more beer than others but sooner or later the inhibitions vanish. I thought it was alcohol but I guess it`s the estrogen.
Drinking soy ≠ feminized men was officially confirmed way before the Infowars nutjob made his video. You'll probably stop breathing the moment any news comes out that air makes people inflate to death.
I used to self harm and have a huge problem dealing with anxiety, but now I lift heavy shit because it makes me feel better. All of these clowns are trying to come up with excuses to convince themselves that their low standards are acceptable because everyone else is either a low testosterone beta or is on juice, meanwhile they never make any steps to improve themselves. I hate seeing these people prey on young men’s insecurities, selling them some wonder solution to a problem they’ve made up.
wouldn't you say that Info war's Brain Force Plus is doing the same thing? They use extremely low quality ingredients and sell for an outrageous price to people insecure about their mental alertness. I think it's good that your trying to improve your body, but perhapses find a few more opinions, look around at what evidence is out there. Be a self-advocate, and you can improve your mind too.
On what planet did I advocate for some goddamn brain juice? I’m p sure I was giving an anecdote into why I find using any sorts of products like that unhelpful. Am I missing something?
Its called growing up, also testosterone levels change over time. I went through the same changes, started working out after college but spent the better half of my life as some insecure, fat & weak. Low standards = being a doormat, and yes being physically weak is a low standard because being physically fit and strong requires hard work and dedication. Its easy to sit in a chair all day, grow fat and/or weak. The clowns with low standards would be the people telling you that its ok....Do you really think being morbidly obese and 400 pounds is having a high standard?
There is only one reasoning you really have to give against the soy estrogen thing; if it was true and soy feminized you WHY ISNT LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TRANS WOMAN BUYING OUT SOY PRODUCT EN MASSE?
I'm surprised companies have not intentionally tried marketing the phytoestrogens to trick trans women to buy them. I mean it sounds just about cruel and evil enough for capitalism's standards, so how come it hasn't happened?
Because there is more effective ways to get estrogen into your body, by, for example, using HRT? And, of course, that you'd absorb soyproducts with your mouth, with leads to digestion, which would then lead to the body rejecting most of the absorbed hormones - if you overdo it. - You didn't have an argument, and just want the soyboy insults to go away huh? Ain't working, soyboy.
It’s a justification, not a reason. That’s why stuff like this is always nonsense; it’s irrelevant to what they believe. They hate women, and try to find things to explain why they hate women.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 it’s called post hoc rationalization. Having a conclusion in mind and then connecting the dots in the most absurd way possible to justify your point.
There are a hilarious amount of people in the comments trying to roast hbomb by calling him a soy boy, as if they aren't commenting on a 30 minute video thoroughly debunking the soy boy myth.
if only soy was feminizing. ive been spending tons of money on estrodial and testosterone blockers when it turns out i could have just been buying tofu.
Jack no he meant it in the sense that you can do anything if you put your mind to it which is pretty common amongst athletes kind of like the one more re mentality but he is an idiot
@@hunni3243 Well, the choice of the word brain in this instance may be unfortunate/some what insensible, but in the context of colloquial speech it should be forgivable since it definitely does not obscure the underlying sentiment which is in fact profound: that your body and mind are one; that good/effective training (physical or otherwise) requires the application of this whole as one. The choice of the word brain here may actually be particularly sensible as it stresses the importance of your mind in training, which probably was what they have meant to tell their audience.
These people are threatened by a little bean which doesn't contain any mammalian hormones yet they'll eat loads of meat and dairy which contains mammalian hormones....sound logic.
I mean, the point of it not being mammalian doesn't really matter. D2 vitamin, for example, is a phytohormone, but works in the body almost completely in the same way, as animal based D -vitamin, that you synthesize in your skin under sunlight. And yes, vitamin D is a hormone (or a prohormone turning into the active hormone, just like D3)
Innuendo Studio's series called The Alt-Right Playbook actually has an interesting analysis of this kind of mindset, I believe the episode is called The Card Says Moops. Decide people are serious if you want to make fun of them, decide they're joking if you want to make fun of someone else. If you haven't seen it I recommend it, the title of the series may be misleading but its's a good leftist analysis of alt-right techniques.
Minor update: A: "X is true" B: "X is not true, and here is why." A: "Hahaha I was just joking I wasn't being serious stop making me look dumb. Anyway, X is true"
Because their entire belief system revolves around the twin ideas of Objective Truth and Permanent Competition. They believe that there is exactly one correct way to live, and the only way to find that correct way is to constantly compare yourself to everyone else, in every way you can think of, and whomever comes out on top must be the Most Correct. Everything that cannot be reduced to a numerical score is irrelevant. Anyone who tries to claim that certain things are incomparable or that the rating system is flawed is dismissed as a Cope. It's completely irrational, but rationality is not the point. The point is to keep people engaged in a cycle of inadequacy and superiority, so men can point to these numbers as evidence for how much better they are than everyone else, while enforcing a submissive attitude towards men who can claim a higher score than them on whatever arbitrary standard they care about that week. "You're better than all those limp-wristed plebs and normies, but you'll never be good *enough* unless you do what I tell you and live the way I want to to live."
@@Ornithopter470 Which is something you're only going to care about once or maybe twice in your life. So long as fertility is some non-zero number, I don't really see the problem. We have so much medical technology dedicated to having kids that there's really no reason to be so worried about something like sperm count.
You have changed my mind about this subject and made me reflect more on the whole matter. But most of all, you've reminded me to make my own researchs instead of waiting for someone's video to tell me what to think about X or Y. I thank you for this. Have a good day.
All comes back to "a real man does what he wants" Which is a sentiment that still doesnt sit quite right with me, but whatever. Obsessing over whos the "real" and "true" man is just such sad and unhealthy behavior. Yall are fine the way you are, the perspective of other people does not define you.
Insofar as the notion of alphas and betas holds any validity at all, you're right - needing to define your masculinity based on erroneous observations of a wild animal and the belittlement of others... is pretty fucking beta.
@@harpoonlobotomy I'm talking about the ones I DO know about. Most men these days are very low T/effeminate regardless of sexual orientation, not just the Buzzfeed Guys.
Fan of skeptic community content watching your vids for the first time. Keep up the good work, we need people like you. The left needs people like you. Please continue shaming bad ideas!
Keep watching, he's got some good ass shit about video games too! It's also nice to see someone who just puts real effort into the 'video' side of 'videos on the internet'
Which skeptics are you into, and which major ideas in that community do you agree/disagree with? I'm always curious about this stuff, none of this is rhetorical.
Check out the Michael Brooks Show on the Majority Report, he's an articulate, intelligent dude who blends humour, wit, insight, knowledge and, perhaps most importantly, nuance as well as makes left wing ideas accessable, understandable and explains concepts that trigger the anti-SJWs in a way that I think a fan of the "Skeptics" would like and understand, and hopefully you'll join the cuckoldry!
And you are a credit to the skeptic community. Too many tend to be ironically unthinking, who just go with their first assumption on things and never let people challenge their views. I'm glad that people like you exist. Even if we might disagree on some things, it's good that we can do so with mutual respect.
I have a friend who wanted to go on testosterone to transition, but he had really high levels on his blood tests, so his treatment was delayed for nearly two years. It had virtually no visible effects on him, so he still needed HRT, but needed to figure out why his natural T levels were so high beforehand to make sure he wasn't dying. Turns out there was pretty much no reason for it. If I remember correctly, when it spiked in the mornings it spiked Hard at 150 ng/dL or so, which just happened to be when he got his tests done. But in the afternoons it would go back to the normal 15-70 ng/dL for his sex assigned at birth. It didn't show up as secondary sex characteristic because it was only high for a short period per day. He's now on T and carefully monitored, so all's well that ends well. But it just goes to show how weird and unpredictable human endocrinology can be. 'Normal' doesn't have to just mean 'a statistical majority'. 'Normal' can include the weird shit our bodies do that don't harm us but make for really interesting science papers
"telling the truth that's too hot to handle" is gonna be my response when my professor asks me why none of the sources i used are peer-reviewed
Professor: Sandra, you better have a good excuse as to why you haven't even started your final year project with only a week left before the deadline.
Sandra: I did finish it. My dog ate it.
Professor: ....
Sandra: I'm just telling the truth that's too hot to handle!!!
*sensible chuckle*
Urza26 dogs eating finals projects ? Hot af if you ask me 😏💀
The toasty truth, thats too luke warm to handle....
Lmao
And then claim they are censoring you and make a really poor youtube video about it, when they inevitably mark you an F
Hot tip, to paraphrase Dara O'brien, if someone calls themselves a "nutritionist" take whatever advice they give you with the biggest grain of salt... There's a reason why they use the title "Nutritionist" instead of the legally protected title "Dietician" because a dietician not only has to earn their title, they can't be self-proclaimed, but also dieticians actually have to present credible evidence and sources to support their claims. It's like the difference between a "Fiduciary" and "Financial Advisor" or a "Dentist" and a "Toothiologist".
Don't you mean the smallest grain of salt
@@Somebodyelse141 You're not a nutritionist! stop telling me about how much salt I should take with my dietician's advice!
I just ask my favourite scienticians wether or not I can safely eat something, no need to worry about a nutritionist.
@@pessimisticvideographer5039 I ask my local Scientologists, and they usually also help me out with my thetans while I'm there. It's like a little mid morning tune-up!
That is, almost word for word, a Dara O'brien bit. Absolutely bang on though
"I believe that's code for not peer-reviewed" was wonderful, I cried
You are literally irrational. Like, literally, in every sense of the word, you are objectively not rational. Literally one of the parts of my job is to teach teenagers proof that you're irrational. Maybe step out of this one, root 2.
@@pbmltd9023 The joke is that the square root of two is an irrational number: it can't be expressed as a fraction.
@@squarerootof2 You are scared of a bean. Pipe down.
*touches the ground * "what the hell happened here?"
@@pastelguts6182 lmao I had the same reaction to this thread 😂
the homoeroticism of being so collectively afraid of women that you can't touch anything that says estrogen regardless of it's chemical makeup (makeup! D:) or observed behavior in men
@@mythicalmeanderings_"regardless of its chemical nature"_ - at least try to keep up.
it was an obvious joke. It's making fun of men who are so deep in their """"manliness""" that they refuse to even eat something that has plant estrogen in it.@@mythicalmeanderings
@@mythicalmeanderingsironic you wrote this out without realizing how poorly formed of a sentence it is
@@mythicalmeanderings aside from loose cultural connotations, what genuine biological proof is there that femininity and masculinity are the natural order for females and males (respectively)?
@@mythicalmeanderings
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I don't know why so many people concern themselves with estrogen and testosterone levels. They should be really concerned about how out of whack everyone is with the four humours in this century. I had myself tested by my local Apothecary and he said my choleric levels were way below what they should be. Bloodletting and blistering saved my life.
I love this.
“Well?! You won’t bleed him, you won’t cup him, you won’t divine his humors; for all you charlatans know, this poor man is both phlegmatic and bilious!”
You would think that, you low hemo bile boy
@@cediviannareeda4305 I'll have you know that I worked very hard to get my bile levels to their optimal peak.
I mean, do you even leech, bro. *flex*
amazing
If gender communists exist then what's a gender capitalist? How do we get in on the market?
Before Gender capitalist exist, there is only one bathroom, now theres two, like wot?
I'll give you five bucks for your gender
gender competition promotes innovation and lower prices
@@pancakeofdestiny You drive a hard bargain. I'll sell it for $3 and no more
@@charlieharper4237
I will take it from you both for free in the name of God, I am a gender theocrat now!
When I was in middle school and learning about the importance of citing your sources, I always groaned because it meant more work. But shit like this shows how important it is.
especially important if the information upsets you in any way or would cause you to act differently.
It’s pretty telling you were more informed on the matter in middle school than some grown ass male high T alpha ”journalists” are to this day.
yeah, these videos actually have learned me to allways check the sources.
no matter the subject.
you don't have to MLA cite your youtube videos, that's why. if i had to do that shit i probably wouldn't source my videos because not even god can put me through that pain. only my college professors can. when they aren't busy brainwashing me, of course.
good avatar btw, great album
tfw i never had to cite my sources until my first year of college
This is a five year old video but there is an important topic to be added to this discussion. The original idea that Soy feminizes men comes from White Supremacist beliefs in the 1800's that claimed men from East Asia were more "Feminine" than white men. The view of East Asian men led men in academic institutions to link it to the soy that was a large part of the diet in those cultures, similar to how they used the shape of skulls to "prove" that Black Men were less intelligent than White Men.
Holy crap. That is both interesting and sad. But yeah a lot of gender stereotypes have ties to racism.
For those white supremacists behind that myth, Asian dudes would be more masculine than them because the white supremacists are a bunch of pussies.
Source?
BOOST REPLY REAL
@duncanmacleod7287 Well their can only be one!
I paused at exactly 10:00 and the commentor legitimately wrote "I'm fairly sure also the only heterosexual out of all of them is the asian dude which explains why he has the highest level testosterone."
Eugene (The asian guy in question) is gay, he has a husband, and everyone else in the group is straight with wives. This cracked me up
Oh my god. You're right. I hope that's not a joke bc that's genuinely hilarious clownery
Holy FUDGE!
XD
holy shit lmfao
Literally the tastiest irony I’ve ever seen
Nothing manlier than being a man married to another man
I’m a woman and the past 5 years I’ve been working at a sushi restaurant. I eat tons of tofu, I literally drink soy sauce like it’s water and I bathe in miso soup. A year ago I grew a third breast and as of today I’m the proud owner of 2 vaginas.
Your use of words is so poetic you should write a book.
Oh my god I was drinking water and you almost made me spit it out. Hilarious
This is great news for the male to female transgender community! No more need for hormones or surgery, just drown yourself in a tide of soy and vaginas will appear!
@@NihilisticRealism No. Revolutionary. Vaginas for all. This is the future. Thank you, beans.
Niiice
"That's not a disputable fact"
Correct. It's not a fact.
This entire sentence is so stupid.
It implies that there are disputable facts but a fact cannot be disputable aside from disputes about alternatives to reality (at least as long as we all inhabit the same reality) since the possibility of such an alternative would mean it's not a fact (or at least that we don't know yet).
Science doesn’t deal in absolutes anyway. We know that soy isn’t feminizing like we know that watching Shrek doesn’t give you jaundice.
@@ginkgothestink-o6949 But it doesn'r cause jaundice.
Nai 2013 correct, but a scientific paper would not say “we know with 100% certainty that watching shrek does not cause jaundice”
@@ginkgothestink-o6949 True, it would instead say something like "In all the studies done on the jaundice caused by watching Shrek, we found no conclusive evidence to prove that there is a correlation or that watching Shrek can cause jaundice."
Which is basically science for "there are literally no recorded cases of this being true. So we're 99.99999999999% sure that this just doesn't happen."
i can never take “alpha” guys/accounts seriously because as a person who writes and consumes fan fiction, the only thing the words “alpha” and “beta” bring to mind is omegaverse fanfic
So called heterosexual "alpha males" when they smell the pheromones of a beta in heat:
Side note I hope you got a kick out of this comment because writing it took at least three years off my life
@@thetaaaasmh if you truly knew omegaverse lore you'd know it's omegas going into heat, not betas 🙄 /s
I hate both alpha guys and omegaverse for completely different reasons, but I respect fanfic writers infinitely more.
@@benjaminharmon6541that’s completely understandable, i also have a strong dislike of omegaverse, but know way more than i’d like because of memes
Me too, but my mind just remember video game stuff
Alpha/Beta? I think of a game in early development, Sigma? The (once scary, but then laughable) villain from MegaMan X, Omega? The hilarious robot from Sonic Heroes...
And so on, these names are just funny codes to me
I'm a trans girl and when I heard soy feminized people, I went slightly bonkers and ate like 5 kilos of soy beans and drank about 1 carton of soy Milk. Conclusion: real real REAL bad tummy ache and didn't leave the bathroom for about 8 hours
Godspeed sister
o7
Damn, hope you're fine now.
o7 I gotta be honest ive considered things like this for like a few minutes
"Soy totally feminizes people" and you were like "promise?"
@@kaboon3489 I am just had to get my guts checked up, make sure I didn't turn them inside out or something like that. Thanks for worrying tho :)
if all of these guys are so scared of estrogen why do all of them consume dairy, something we all consume on a regular basis that contains actual animal estrogen and has an actual affect on our hormones???
Because if they actually cared about the science, they wouldn't be scared of beans in the first place
Matías García Casas you speak the truth
Wow, it does? Source?
God I love dairy.
@@matiasgarciacasas558 And you know they're scared of the bean. ;)
Man this bodybuilder would hate to see what we've done to corn, tomatoes, bananas, grapes, and _idly flips though the pages of an agricultural history book..._
Ruby red grapefruit and the hearty peppermint we have today were made with something called atomic gardening as well.
I've even indulged in a durian or two meself
Not just every single plant but also every single animal product you have ever eaten has already been genetically modified over the course of thousands of years.
Or watermelons.
@@tandemdwarf745 God forbid he owns a dog
I had always figured one of the reasons people assumed soy to be feminizing because of the toxic masculine hatred towards vegetarians, but I suppose that is just one of them
yeah, that and the racism towards the east which has historically been the biggest producer of soy
@@pelican7235precisely
I'd wager Harris didn't talk about those because they're hard to scientifically or intellectually talk about unlike the testosterone/sperm count stuff
@@dizzydaisy909 I agree
I think "soy boys" would be an endearing term for farm boys in my conservative state of Indiana, considering half the state is covered in soy bean fields.
I'd watch that reality show.
"I'm Ricky Pete" *cuts to him wrangling a gator* "That's my brother Big Jim" *cuts to him driving a combine harvester* "And his son, Jimmy" *cuts to them celebrating* "And we're the soyboys" *plays heavy metal banjo theme*
It is such a cute term, it’s really too bad it was invented by such awful ppl
@@SammyBirdTheGreat a cute term xD lmfao wtf haha how do you mean?
Peter Prime ...there are no gators in Indiana... just like Africa doesn’t have tigers
@@quaesitorrabullione3433 The gators are now starting to take over America, that's the real immigration crisis.
You're telling me I can't substitute HRT with beans? Disappointing.
smh :(((
My heart is broken about this…
The medical industry wins again
:(
You're telling me rope can hold all that mass?
This is extra funny to me because I’m Chinese and these people never even think about the fact that there are cultures that base their entire diet on soy products.
They don’t think about facts in general
No no, they think about it a lot. But hear me out for a second, they are racists. They don't care about that because they already think Asian people are worst in some way and therefore see it as a consequence of soy. It's not that they don't think, it's that they are bad at thinking because the knowledge of the world they base their worldviews around is stupid to begin with
@@BillyBurnsfield also horses can fly. What, I thought we were just making stuff up here
@@twojointsjay7330 You're making shit up, horses don't exist at all.
@@twojointsjay7330a very obvious lie because everyone knows what a horse is
"Blasting sperm like Zeus from Mt Olympus." is my quote of week.
It's my autobiography title.
If you have a passing knowledge of Greek mythology you'll know it's a pretty accurate description of Zeus too.
Sperminating the countryside
Sperminating the peasants
@@igor_kossovMurder of the Universe but instead of puke it is semen
>has quotes of the week
>doesn't want to be called soyboy
Checked
"Gender Communist"
Mom said it's my turn to use the gender
@Disney is the Devil this is really good comedy man, thanks for the laugh
@Disney is the Devil ok boomer
@Disney is the Devil Lol sure big boy conservative
@Disney is the Devil Ohno, Im a big ALPHA that believes in BETAS because the BETAS ate a bean that I don't like. I'm so MANLY that I'm scared of 1 (one) bean that hasn't been proven to affect testosterone levels. I. Am. Afraid. Of. A. BEAN. This bean is terrorizing my life, keeping my family captive. Please send help. The bean has a gun.
@Disney is the Devil Please, could you use something like "beta cuck snowflake" in your next post ? I need this to complete my "right wing braindead guy bingo".
So you're telling me that eating a fuckton of tofu won't make me an UltraFemme goddess and transcend material reality?
let us know how it goes
@@loturzelrestaurant are you okay, dude?
God of beans, give me tids or give me death
@@loturzelrestaurant 96000 likes, your point is null and void since numbers make it indisputable, right?
Reality is often disappointing......
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ContraPoints I take two capsules of *brain force plus*
i;m thinking about thos beans
ContraPoints I just got done watching your AGP video lol
OMG NATALIE IN THE WILD!!!
Contra is Ray Blanchard a soyboy
I remember being 17 and being subscribed to Sargon of Akkad and Paul Joseph Watson and Milo Yiannopoulos and Gavin McInnes. I am so goddamn glad I jumped off that train when I did.
You did good to escape that toxic pit.
McInnes is entertaining but subscribing to PJW should be a punishable offense
Isn't Sargon of Akkad a Mesopotamian king?
@@tosok1444 yeah but he is more well known for some white guy who hates anyone not white and hold far right views
@@tosok1444 Yeah, but they're talking about the far right youtuber who used the same name for the LARP points
Soycialism - claim the beans of production!
Cultural marxisoysm
Anarcho-Soyism
we need our daily bean intake in a soycialist society
ALL YOUR BEANS ARE BELONG TO US
SOY-UZ NERUSHIMIYY
I would also like to point out that "nutritionist" isn't a job title or profession. The actual profession you're looking for is "dietitian." People who refer to themselves as "nutritionists" do so because they legally can't describe themselves as dietitians because they don't actually have degrees in anything (at least, not anything related to diet science), and would, therefore, be committing fraud if they did and could be sued or even imprisoned. So, if you see someone calling themselves a "nutritionist," that person is a con artist, and now, you'll know better.
I think it depends where you're from. Here in Australia, one of my best friends has done a uni degree and is a nutritionist. It was a 3 year degree as well so not some random 3 month course.
@@f_yu Many people who are Nutritionists will have degrees, but the original poster is correct that the title of 'Nutritionist' isn't protected by law*. So you don't need a qualification to use the title, 'Dietician' in contrast is protected by law. So not all Nutritionists are quacks, but also not all Nutritionists have any qualifications to back up their claims.
*Apart from in Canada, where it is protected, but not to the same degree.
In the USA the same is also true for “life coaches”
Thank you
I can't tell if you're referencing Knowing Better at the end, so I'll just assume you did and enjoy the reference
“im not pro or con on this but i think it’s fucking weird and i don’t like it”
really feelin the nuance here
Can we all also agree that shrieking about soy is the adult version of “girls are gross and have cooties”? The whole concept that anything feminine is bad is peak misogyny.
😂😂😂😂😂
So true. They don't even hide their misogyny.
tbf girls are pretty gross and do have cooties.
Bad take. If it were true, that soy did increase estrogen, there would be plenty of reasons for men to avoid it. Just like how there are reasons many women would not want to take testosterone supplements.
@@sheeshert good thing it isn't true, then. So, OP's point still stands.
25:46 also notable thay when reading kosko's article he states that Eugene (the Asian guy) is "probably the only heterosexual" when he's exactly the one that came out as gay last year. They just had to make yet another conclusion based on stereptypes that obviously turned out to be wrong.
Not just gay, but gender nonbinary.
@@abigailbailey9633 what gender are they now?
@@lacanian1500 Neither/both
Love that these dudes won't eat soy because it has phytoestrogens, yet they'll eat dairy.... which has actual estrogen...
Ruby Parker and high levels of estrogen at that
Irony sure is a bitch, ain't it?
This could explain these pseudoscience loving far right losers obsession with milk then.
@@dt9860 Pretty unreliable source there buddy. Mind explaining how not having estrogen changes body function more than having estrogen?
Soyboy much?
"Nutritionist" is not a protected occupation and anyone can claim to be a Nutritionist! The scientifically recognized profession in the field of nutrition that actually requires a degree is called "Dietitian". Please always be skeptical of self-proclaimed "Nutritionists"
"If Dietician _is like_ Dentist then Nutritionist _is like_ Toothyologist," -Dara O'Briain
*^THIS!*
TIL
Thank you! I'm studying to be a registered dietitian right now (I've been in college for 4 years and I'm applying to interships so hopefully in a year I can be a dietician). There is actually a push to change the title from Regestered Dietitian to Registered Dietitian Nutritionist so we can seize the title from people who don't know what they're talking about (though many have mixed feelings about it)
I'm going to become a Bimolecular Synergistic Secretary
and get paid every time someone wonders what the fuck I actually do (including myself)
Learned this on gmobook. Food Babe and all those types rely on this ignorance
It's crazy that people think they're more in danger of hormonal imbalance from drinking soy milk than drinking a pregnant mother cows' milk that's meant for her baby, which has ACTUAL mammalian estrogen. Beer has more phytoestrogens than soy, but as we know, phytoestrogens don't affect us like that, but if we're to claim it does, then beer is the least manly thing you could drink.
Imagine if soy actually mimicked estrogen, we could control our menstrual cycle by drinking soymilk and eating tofu at the right times. We could use soy as a contraceptive LOL. But seriously don't you think women would have noticed if soy actually did this...
@@imcallingjapan2178 is this irony
@@revenga01 Of course, do you think I'm nuts? Lol
@@imcallingjapan2178 So! Let's Dispute The Facts
@@shotgun6X I was joking, I was doing a parody of the alt-right idiots who believe such crap, but I will delete my comment in case anyone else thinks I was serious.
But I've been drinking a tankard of soy milk a day and I've not been pregnant yet, so it must be true :P
How ironic that their only real sourse is about sheep, and they mindlessly follow it.
ayyyyyy
Ironic, isn't it?
A 12oz can of beer has 13 times more phytoestrogen amounts than one serving of soy lol. Not that phytoestrogens have anything to do with anything. I just find it funny that people freak out about soy but not beer.
Right? Nearly every heavy beer drinker I know has titties that can rival women
Because they're not the ones who came up with the idea, they're just regurgitating back something they read online or saw in a video somewhere, they heard it and without doing any research of their own they then spread it as fact, often embellishing with their own additions and next thing you know all your neighbors are fucking lunatics.
Drink cider
@@dhalsim-1 I like water !
Ryan White don't think you're making a proper comparison to soy. Maybe if the shit in beer was isolated, concentrated, and deemed a health food to be eaten throughout the day. Here: ua-cam.com/video/9KDMqqCR3sg/v-deo.html
The guy saying "go get your chocolates and wine, and cry in the bathtub" baffles me, minus the crying part, that sounds like a great night in
Crying feels good
@@MsZsc who you gonna call?
Is it bad that prscutto or however you spell it is more of a comfort food for me that fucking chocolate, i think I'll push out my first kidney stone at age 20 or so
"lol youre a woman" but no spine to actually say it i love insults like that
@@lambsauce5312
Don't even know what that is and I can tell you, no, that's not a bad thing. Chocolate is mid -- at best.
Wow, the "do your own research" crowd really seems to have trouble actually performing meaningful research
*shocked gasp*
Turns out unless you actually hold a standard that forces people to do so, most people are fine letting their given authority figures think for them (regardless of political bent). Also yeah, most people suck at research. Kinda why peer review is so important.
i suppose thats why we should do it ourselves huh
@@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa yeah, for instance the poeple here in the comments not pointing out this dudes has less testosterone than the 5th percentile. Or that pytostrogens actually mimic estrogen (it's literally even on wikipedia). They just give personal atacks to "the evil righwingers" and repeat what they heard in the video doing NO RESEARCH. Most people dont aave the brain for critical thinking (specially amongst the official media narrative ie leftism). I would say 1 in 100 at most.
@@Amber-nz3sj Yeah you can, but his point is that psuedo scientific groups that encourage their member to do their own research, often suck at gaining legitimate research.
Confusing phytoestrogens with estrogen just because they are shaped the same is like confusing a floppy disc with a slice of cheese.
Sure, they will both fit in a disc drive, but they ain't doing the same thing once they're in there.
Yep.
@@aroace7913 YO SAME
cheese has its advantages with data storage
This isn’t really a valid point, allow me to introduce ;prions, although the analogy still fits you’d just be the computer.
@@fioafionawright8604 Jesus you somehow made me feel stupid, yet I still feel smarter then you. Thank you for making a poor analogy.
Oh god. Endocrinology is one of the most complex fields of medicine that exist.
People have pointed out BMI scores are often a bit sketchy? BMI scores are goddamn stone tablets from God Mountain in relation to the complexity of hormones and their interactions within individual people. Oi.
Eight to twelve years of education and residence to legally help people understand and regulate their unique endocrine systems and health vs. a chart without citations on some alt-right blogs written by some gynophobic dudes? 🤔 What makes you more qualified to talk about estrogen?
I dunno... I mean clearly Roosh "Vagina Meat" V. must be a great source for.... ummm.
I'm transgender, and it's common knowledge in the community (because of HRT self-medication) that estrogen alone won't do SQUAT regarding feminization if you don't take testosterone blockers. Otherwise, testosterone in your body will simply overwhelm any effect estrogens you take might've had.
Exactly. Looking at the average test level is like looking at the average height of a man and thinking your body is fucked up because your genetics made you an inch shorter.
Same on the trans issue: I was gobbling 2 mg of estrogen and a weak dose of spiro (have went to the doctor and gotten a higher dosage) a day for months AND have been on a vegan diet for at least two years whilst still having a dark, coarse beard growing in a matter of an one-and-a-half week with little effects. Will take these claims with a grain of salt or 1-up my game as a ~soy boi~
I like to watch hbomberguy's videos in reverse, watching him slowly grow his hair longer and longer
Bombjamin Buttonguy
this is so real though! I’m here from the plagiarism vid
This is the video that got me out of the pipeline. I had seen youtubers i respected and believed say that soy was evil and feminising and accepted it as true, thinking myself as a sceptic for doing so just because the 'SJW's said otherwise. Seeing something id taken for granted be so obviously shown to be false and built on lies made me start to wonder whether there were any credible arguments against the other things I believed to be obviously true (99% of which were most definitely not). Thank you Harry for saving me from delving deeper into the pipeline and stopping me from stewing in my own impotent rage for any longer than i already had done
Harris truerly is the original Breadtuber huh
This comment makes me insanely happy. Welcome back.
Wow. Good for you. :)
That's awesome :)
Amazing!
"He's blasting sperm like he's Zeus from Mount Olympus" is one of the many choice quotes of this video.
_All Hail Sobek!_
Hail Sobek, lord of crops and sperm. We will achieve infinite manhood with his guidance and pouring HP sauce on our faces.
Agreed. I need to find a way to work this quote into everyday life....
I would lose my shit if Keith was just wearing a shirt with that on it in some future Try Guys video 😂
It's also funny cause it's accurate. Zeus, as we all know, was a virile pervert
The way Paul's videos are always shot with him uncomfortably close to the wall, and with the camera ever so slightly tilted down at him, it makes it feel like he's a tiny geography teacher lecturing at a tall person who has him cornered against a map.
Not to mention it makes you see waaaay more of his bottom teeth than you want to.
@@MissRedZelda why did you point this out to me
this explains why it looks like he's pouting all the time
Thank you for letting us know your fantasies...
so what? he's right about everything.
Why are youtube conservatives in this comments section commenting "Soy Boy" as if the phrase hasn't been dead for years
@@llawliet5211not even the past tho rlly, more like an alternate reality where their ideologies are the norm. Too many of their beliefs contradict the practices of the times they want to “go back to” for it to be a feasible solution.
This video is from years ago dipshit
Seriously, even conservatives don’t use the phrase anymore.
@@undercookedtoast1479 this has always been the conservative agenda the past was way fucking worse for everyone interms of social mobility and just general workers rights and treatment but the conservatives will fucking AO3 their way into “the past is great”
Who cares, soyboy?
I feel like when they said "go cry in the bathtub with chocolates and wine" they were at least subconsciously thinking of ContraPoints skits.
@@Charles.Foster.Offdensen nah they're the same boners they get while looking for futanari porn
wine is ghey
**with milk and more MILK*
@@no-man_baugh ....poured on the face while a soprano sings an aria.
*T R Y T H E W I N E*
In one of the screenshots you share in this video, of manosphere... men... reacting to the Try Guys data, at 10:00, Kosko says: "I'm fairly sure also the only heterosexual out of all of them is the Asian dude which explains why he is the only one with a normal (though low) range."
I draw this to your attention now because that Asian dude VERY PUBLICLY came out as gay about two months ago.
@tinylilmattIt was a big deal for himself though
@tinylilmatt it's a huge deal in Korea, where his parents are from, and in Texas, where he grew up, and on the internet, where the trolls live and where he publishes his work so... I think coming out was probably a huge deal for him.
tinylilmatt
Yes bc as we all know only people that support a channel will visit &/or comment on it and no one in the whole world ever gets killed over being gay anymore...except in the places where it's still illegal & can get you killed...not to mention all the nut jobs in the world...
My point being, in this instance/on this topic I appreciate that you think no one cares anymore, makes it seem as tho you don't care...but that doesn't change the fact that you're incorrect, it's still a much bigger deal than it should be for many people in many places
@tinylilmattwww.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/06/28/anti-gay-hate-crimes-rise-fbi-says-and-they-likely-undercount/1582614001/
@tinylilmatt so.... empirical data is somehow wrong because you personally have a certain sexuality? ok. sure.
"omg hhomberguy its a joke take a joke soyboy is all joke" hhomberguy literally shows people in this video who take it seriously and is very obviously making this a response towards people who do actually think its real. And jokes do normalize sentiments, anything said enough times becomes the truth to people who cant dig deeper and that's dangerous.
At the same time satan, (lol), I think that it’s worth making fun of the fact that people actually think this way. As long as you’re clear about what you think in reality, I feel you should be free to chastise however you like.
Thanks, Satan.
Very thoughtful comment, ummm... CEO of Hell.
The “Tide Pod Challenge” started as a joke, but then it was real. Be careful what you joke about on the internet, someone *will* take you seriously.
Satan made some good points and he likes Behemoth
Something’s not right. I drink five gallons of pure SOY but I have yet to women. How fix?
Continue sister
If your body is sufficiently scared of you and what you will do to it it will just woman you eventually
Rule by fear
Video or didn't happen.
Hmm, probably being blocked by internal misogyny. Need more soy
That's very generous of you to call Paul a journalist
More truthful than this garbage.
@@AmazingStoryDewd ok troll
@@AmazingStoryDewd
Tell me, esteemed troll, what precisely was untrue in this video? Point out to me, specifically, what was untrue or inaccurate in this video.
@@tonycampbell1424 well, the part where he called PJW a journalist
@@geoffreysorkin5774
Alright, well, that's fair.
By the way, for someone with some chemistry knowledge, saying the phytooestrogens and oestrogen "look similar" is like saying my black cat looks like my black pillow. They're both black, fluffy and round, but that's about it.
Well, according to Wikipedia
"The similarities, at molecular level, of an estrogen and a phytoestrogen allow them to mildly mimic and sometimes act as an antagonist of estrogen."
It always makes me think of chirality and our chemistry teacher giving the example of thalidomide scandal, on how having the same molecular formula does not mean it would have the same effects, let alone molecules that are "kinda similar", when mirror image molecules can cause different results.
@@thebiggestcauldron therefore cats are the enemy of pillows
@@thebiggestcauldron wait…that would make it block reception meaning it would reduce the effects of estrogen?
@STOP SUBBING TO THIS CHANNEL SUB TO THE NEW ONE and also why lead poisoning is a thing, as it binds to calcium receptors in the bone
"That's not a disputable fact"... I mean, they're right. There's no facts there to dispute haha
By who though?
@@dhalsim-1 What?
Seriously - what-the-actual-FUCK are you endeavoring to communicate?
You don't spit into the wind, you don't poke a bear with a stick, and you DEFINITELY don't tell hbomberguy that something can't be disputed.
0:24 - It's true. I am a leftist because of soy. I was just sitting around, minding my own business, loving capitalism and enjoying the free market in a café when a soy truck became overturned and all the milk flooded in and turned me to socialism!
I got turned into socialism. Being an abstract concept sucks
So quirky 😭
@@melvint-p9500 there's noting i hate more than having to manage an entire way of thinking
just too many things to manage
i can barely manage myself let alone billions of people
Not again!
Worst superhero origin ever!
Honestly one of the funniest parts of this myth is that more estrogen DOESN’T decrease testosterone. The testosterone would overpower the estrogen. That’s literally the reason trans women taking hormones need to take a T blocker
That's sort of true, but shouldn't be misinterpreted as meaning high estrogen levels aren't a problem in men. They are, if you have them.
@@seigeengine, that's also sort of true, plenty of people could have abnormal hormone levels that are normal for them. If you have a nominally high estrogen level but aren't experiencing any effects from it, you're fine.
@@lunarlegion5518 No, the built in assumption to my statement is that ranges are individualized.
@@seigeengine, sure, and it's also fairly safe to assume that op understands that unhealthy levels are an exception.
@@lunarlegion5518 fuck is this, people having an intellectual discussion on a topic and being respectful to eachother when the other points out their mistake?
UA-cam blasphemy I tell ya
Trans women level 10: hormone replacement therapy
Trans women level 10000: B E A N S
If only it was that easy
Have you noticed? Silly meaningless SHORT replies always get lots of likes?
They've got to be short for slow moving minds.
Are you sure that your name is Witt?
Ah..2 letters T. That makes it OK.
in short: funny comment make dopamine receptors go brrrr
Damnit, beans always get me lmao 💀💀💀
@@MauriatOttolink you literally are complaining about a funny comedy joke about Trans Women. Go the fuck outside bro.
Just imagine if that molecule would have been called phyto-testosteron.
You're right but I love soy and I don't wanna fight gym bros for my tofu
Other stereotypical hipster vegan leftist foods like avocado, quinoa and kale actually are good for testosterone and fight estrogen.
I'm from a country where soy isn't really used in cooking or foods. It's virtually inexistent in our cuisine. Yet I still have supple man boobs and ample leftist views. Curious.
not something to be proud if
@@highvisibilityraincoat Proud if? Here, sir. You seem to have dropped the rest of your sentence.
@@GrainneMhaol it's clearly just a typo. I is next to O and I type at about 100WPM. should I proof-read my comments professor grainne?
@@highvisibilityraincoat Good idea. Maybe you should think about occasionally using capital letters.
@@GrainneMhaol nah thats capitalist we dont use capital letters
God, I wish soy would make me girly, when I first heard about soy being feminizing I was so excited! but then I learned more truth on the matter. Facts really don't care about my feelings :
@@yrdeft9774 bruh "my lab rat" thats really feckin creepy.
@Operator Ren
Noted. Still creepy.
@@ekki1993 lol "cry about it", now ya know he's a big man, watch out before he puts your argument next to a soyjack or something :p
Yeah it suck. Really the best and most reliable way I found to get a feminizing effect as a wannabe femboy is just cutting red meat (or really all meat) from your diet. It reduces T and you kinda get the same effect
@@yrdeft9774 There's a beautiful irony about the comment above this one being:
Every time.
A: "X is true"
B: "X is not true, and here is why."
A: "Hahaha I was just joking I wasn't being serious stop making me look dumb"
I didn't even know being a "gender communist" was an option I could select from. Let's do that!
Sounds pretty based tbh
Maybe gender is really is 100+
There is no ethical consumption under gender capitalism, the bourgeoisie is keeping all the genders to themselves, the damn pigs
I think it's the same ad regular communism, but focused more on gender liberation, than intersectional liberation.
@@Tp_hedgelinghog cultural marxism o_0?
I know this is an old video but I also do want to point out that there is no requirement of education or certification to call yourself a nutritionist in the United States. This contracts to a dietician, which is a specific set of education and qualifications. Literally anyone can say they are a nutritionist so that’s always a red flag if that’s the strongest “qualification” that someone has.
I've read several people defending Paul basically saying; "Well, this stuff isn't his specialty, but when he talks about SJWs and immigrants he makes loads of good points!"
The fact that PJW is okay with blatantly manipulating the sources he uses so it fits in with his narrative is surely a bad sign for the rest of his content, regardless of the topic.
Yeah. It's fine to be wrong about stuff that's not your specialty. But you can't use that defense while simultaneously claiming to be presenting the truth.
People watch anti-SJW channels just to get riled up and have their biases validated.
Kolbe Howard
Some of the criticisms towards SJWs are valid, but I find these anti-SJW channels and their followers have become just as easily wound up by things as the people they criticise. The new Star Wars films being "SJW propaganda" seems to be a particularly popular topic of choice at the moment for them.
The thing is, none of these areas are his speciality, because he's never actually studied them in any sort of depth beyond the conspirasphere and blogs. None of these anti-fems and most of the far-right youtubers and the skeptics have any understanding of what they're talking about because most of them haven't studied the topics at all, read any of the relevant material, and those that have studied a hard science, which is all well and good, but that doesn't make you any sort of authority on social sciences or philisophical concepts etc. I still cringe at Armoured Skeptic's "post-modernism" video, and all the other sheep bleeting "cultural Marxist" and "Frankfurt School" who don't know who Adorno is and haven't read any of their work, and then, like PJW, go on to make critiques of modern culture in a similar vein to how the Frankfurt School, particularly Adorno (I think), critiqued it, only they blame those very "Cultural Marxists" for what is actually the fault of neoliberal (I wonder if TL;DR has learned the meaning of this yet) capitalism.
And the fact PJW's work on immigration makes him a borderline-Nazi. The guy is a dye in the wool racist.
And I'm someone that gets into arguments with the sjws on my side all the time. PJW is just a racist repugnant piece of shit.
Am I the only one who shuddered when he said "the FEMALE hormone" just the way he said it oozed ancient Greece levels of contempt for women
Estrogen isn't just a female hormone, though. Guys have it, too, just in lower concentrations.
Also, the blatant fem-hatred did not escape my notice.
Lazysupermutant
Aristotlean levels of contempt.
He says "feeeeeeeeeeeemales" like a ferengi.
KITCHEN BIIIIITCHEEEEEEEESS
@@sundayschoolflunkie3979 look up sparta. women and men had the same status in ancient times.
I like how one of the forum comment says that the only Try Guy who he thinks is heterosexual is Eugene. You know, the one that said he was LGBT
Our Bi-Sexual lord Eugene
@@babypurplebat2610 a true bicon
The one who just fabulously, gloriously danced out of the closet.
He certainly gives off a cultist vibe.
I'm NEVER going to willingly put SOY in my body! 😤
Not because of the whole soy-boy thing. That's dumb and pseudo science...
I'm just allergic to soy. ┐('～`;)┌
OK, soyboy
That seems like an excellent reason 😂
I love how the best rebuttal people come up with is calling him a soyboy
*Anybody* using "soyboy" to insult anybody is a *chimp* (cue agitated chimp sounds)
And what defines a chimp? They're territorial, mean-spirited and primitive. Nazis derived their social Darwinism from chimps.
What defines a rational human? Well, quite clearly the ability to function *above* the basic needs of a chimp.
"Soyboy" is a chimp-level "rebuttal". It's not found in academia or any level of mature and educated debate.
I'll tell you another truth. Trying to out-chimp other chimps is never going to lead to any progress of humanity.
@@paulallen8109 you could have just said: "All John Paul Watson fans are idiots" and it would have had the same effect. Well said though
Let's see paul allen's comment, (its invisible on my side due to yt's shadowbanning)
You rightoids get triggered so easily
@@andrewdinatale8207 what, I'm not a rightwinger. My comment is talking about the people calling Hbomberguy a soyboy
I feel like you started to get close to this without saying it... but considering that soy is a staple food in Asia feels like a dog whistle for anti Asian racism. They're telling you this one food makes you a lesser man, which would imply that men from Asia.... connect the dots. And some people are actually just repeating this not knowing the hate they're spreading.
it reminds me of the irrational msg fear
@@colinscherer3316 is it true that msg is harmful ?
I'm really curious to know
@@Tabish_Nooristani it's not good for you. Look into it
@@Tabish_Nooristani MSG is not harmful. Yeah, look into it: surprise: racism and xenophobia and bad 'science' also factored into the panic. I bet some of the people claiming to not be able to eat Chinese food also eat bags of Doritos... surprise: MSG is used in tons of seasonings. Glutamic acid is also naturally occuring in significant quantities in many meat and animal products (ie eggs and dairy).
@No it's no more harmful than other forms of edible salt. Just make sure you're hydrated, just like when you're eating salty food.
I eat a criminally low amount of veg, I'd think my diet has zero soy based products and I've got to tell you, my man tits are still unfortunately voluptuous
Right? Same.
Are you into drinking a lot of beer by any chance?
@@MrChitakifsy guilty as charged
@@ItsSpecialHands And right there is your estrogen filled answer :D
@@MrChitakifsy I honestly had no idea that beer was a source of it!
Just imagine achieving hormonal changes by simply eating certain foods. Sounds like heaven
Well, there used to be a guide floating around for stuff to eat and drink if you're unable to get actual proper hormones, back in the early '00s. They were supposed to help a bit, as in be better than nothing. They weren't supposed to be as effective as actual hormones. Allegedly eating cooked animal ovaries were also supposed to help, which makes sense if cooking doesn't damage the hormones. I was interested because I had been bullied for being "too manly" for a girl. I never got around to trying the stuff on account of being too poor, and having been shamed by my parents too much to consider birth control hormones an option even though I wouldn't be taking them for having any sex.
the problem is sadly that (for afab ppl at least) the body turns extra testosterone into estrogene from what i remember
@@thj_5046 if that was true hrt wouldn't work for trans masculine people.
Since that is literally just taking extra testosterone as an injection or a gel.
@@brook_angel man idk dude but i believe it doesnt just work with food. i did a shit ton of research on that like 2 years ago i donz remember it well no more. might be very possibly wrong tho. no hard feelings bro
@@brook_angel omg youre german. matching fr fr🫡🫡
I love the irony of how Paul works for InfoWars a site known for calling people “Sheeple” and his only source for soy causing lower Testosterone was a paper studying sheep (which weren’t even eating soy).
I love how the video just has Hbomb getting kidnapped and escaping from capture in the background and it just... Goes completely unaddressed
I know. I was like, "Huh?".
He a showman... a sexy, soy filled showman :).
I was doing other things while listening to it in background & just happened to glance up while he was 'trying' to cut thru the cuffs - followed by a wtf?! moment lol
That's Hbomb for you
Is that what's meant to be happening? God, I feel so silly now. For months now, I've been trying to decode what's meant to be happening in the background... and it was kidnapping.
'='
I thought "Soy Boy" was just a funny insult meant for leftist people who tend to be vegans, I had no idea they actually believe it causes femininity.
no "they" don't believe that, some might for sure, just like some leftists might think anarchism is a good idea, most really don't.
@@Arrakiz666 i don't associate with anarcho-communists i shout at them in youtube comments as well, don't you worry. im pretty indiscriminate
@@Arrakiz666 you're strawmanning my beliefs to shit m8, and your for some reason guessing i didn't say anything. this is the exact mentality of the left i hate, you asume a whole bunch of bulshit its redicules. i miss read you earlier point because i was high as fuck but i what i meant to say is that i don't associate with the right either i'm actually fairly left of center and i dont know why your assuming and saying were "buddies".
@@Arrakiz666 no you create the environment by responding in kind if they didnt have a reason to do it they wouldn't they're trolling and your biting
either say nothing or put some effort into it for fuck sake
I remember when I was a kid I begged my mom to buy soy milk instead of whole milk cause I thought it would turn me into a girl
I mean that’s a pretty straightforward way of finding that out ig
So you were mentally ill as a child, and your abhorrent mother didn't realize?
Sad. Good thing is that there's still good people who produce rope for you, so you can add to the statistic.
There was a whole scandal about whole milk containing growth hormones, which were bad for humans, so it kinda makes sense.
"Soy is freakish and unnatural"
so is that spray tan
IKR? So is medicine and electric light. And UA-cam. You know what's natural? SHARKS
@@luizag123 I take two capsules of all natural apple-based cyanide every morning.
@Disney is the Devil Im sorry what. Do you know what science is? Were you taught basic biology?
@Disney is the Devil So basically the point you're getting at is that men with low testosterone are bad because you think they're like women and you don't like women?
@@casssaph2287 Lemme get some popcorn, this is gonna be a good one.
Why are you eating soy products when you can enjoy a full, active life with Info Wars vitamins enriched with "rare earth minerals". :D
Larry Bundy Jr Or Survival X.
Larry Bundy Jr it includes compounds only found in meteors...and blueberries...
ah yes, nothing will put hair on your arse like jones' lead-based tic tacs.
Well one of the "rare" minerals is iron. one of the most abundant metals on the planet!
Larry Bundy Jr *Alex Jones voice* EAT YOUR GOD DAMN STEROIDS AND BECOME A MAN
I must say, I used to think soy caused raised estrogen and lowered testosterone in males. hbomberguy, thank you for educating me. I have been relieved from my ignorance a little bit more. I'm a trans dude, and I was honestly pretty scared of eating too much soy. The last thing I want is more of a hormone that I instinctively feel shouldn't be in my body
i haven't seen that picture (your pfp) since 7th grade. thanks for making me feel old with undertale.
you're welcome, @@lacanian1500
Dude we’re in the exact same boat. I’m also a trans guy, and for the longest time I used to avoid certain foods and binge others because I thought they’d raise my T or something, and I avoided soy products. Rock on dude, eat some celebratory tofu
@@EddieJrDigiarts "in my opinion" dude read into body dysmorphia among trans folk, as well as studies regarding their brains and brain behavior as correlating w/ their gender. science backs the fact that being trans is nothing new and not just some high level body self esteem issues.
also, dude saying u support trans folk while invalidating their existence just doesn't work. it's back handed and makes it seem like u view them more as simply confused teens rather than knowledgable individuals who have struggled w/ the matter of their gender presentation for much or the entirety of their lives
@@EddieJrDigiarts
"I don't fear you nor hate you. I respect your rights."
"I don't understand you and I don't respect you. Your existence is INCORRECT. Fuck you".
I can't believe the main thing I took away from this video was to not eat grass, which wasn't even a thing I was planning on doing anyway.
My father is very conservative, so is my brother in law and they FARM soy beans. Both are not what someone would call feminine; they are a guy's guy. They eat soy. It doesn't change a thing about them.
JCArules13 Which is actually pretty tragic...
@@shadetreader "Someone doesnt agree with me politically so they're scum!"
....please leave.
Probably because the soy that they consume are fermented. Clearly this video lacks that vital detail.
@@JoeyCentral Fermented soy products may contain a lesser amount of phytoestrogens, but due to the process of fermentation these are more bioavailable and thus should have an even greater hormonal impact than the ones in unfermented soy.
"I believe that's code for 'my work isn't peer reviewed.'" Ha! Love that!
This video has almost 10,000 dislikes...and its just a debunking of all the bullshit they’ve spewed. Literally you’re just pointing out that PJW is misreading the studies, is not looking at enough studies, and the sources cited can be not credible. It’s a very well done response and should be respected but instead its pummeled with dislikes because you’re disagreeing with PJW.
ZombieZoo1000 uhm im confused by your comment
There's this moronic argument going around here that pointing out that an insult is nonsensical, is a childish waste of time.
Despite the fact that I don't understand Zombie's point, what exactly is wrong with that? Do you prefer kids to be offended rather than confuzed when people insult them?
ZombieZoo1000 Imagine being that one kid who didn't know how to respond to the kid who didn't care if people called him gay.
Yep, insults are only as valid as people deem them to be, as are all words.
ZombieZoo1000 Except the fact that multiple people featured in this video literally tried to prove it isn’t just an insult with dumb studies ... this isn’t just an insult to them and you know it.
My grandad is lactose intolerant, he's been drinking soy milk for years in tea, coffee, has it on his cereal. He's an SAS veteran and honestly one of the toughest guys I know. He's well into his seventies and is way stronger than me.
You know what actually contains something similar to estrogens and makes man boobs grow?
Beer.
L M F A O O O
Also milk! Which “Alphas” love I’m sure, has mammalian estrogen in it which indeed does affect hormone levels.
Elder One lol 😂 ok buddy
Elder One I survived a bullet to the head therefore bullets to the head aren’t deadly!
Beer makes me sick, but I noticed that the more beer my macho friends drink, the more open they become to making out with another guy. Some machos require more beer than others but sooner or later the inhibitions vanish. I thought it was alcohol but I guess it`s the estrogen.
to be honest I like Betas...they are useful to bug-test a game before official release
Underrated comment.
Just Saying yeah man
Just Saying
HEYHOO!
Drinking soy ≠ feminized men was officially confirmed way before the Infowars nutjob made his video. You'll probably stop breathing the moment any news comes out that air makes people inflate to death.
Hail storm
I think you are in the wrong comment chain.
I used to self harm and have a huge problem dealing with anxiety, but now I lift heavy shit because it makes me feel better. All of these clowns are trying to come up with excuses to convince themselves that their low standards are acceptable because everyone else is either a low testosterone beta or is on juice, meanwhile they never make any steps to improve themselves. I hate seeing these people prey on young men’s insecurities, selling them some wonder solution to a problem they’ve made up.
wouldn't you say that Info war's Brain Force Plus is doing the same thing? They use extremely low quality ingredients and sell for an outrageous price to people insecure about their mental alertness. I think it's good that your trying to improve your body, but perhapses find a few more opinions, look around at what evidence is out there. Be a self-advocate, and you can improve your mind too.
On what planet did I advocate for some goddamn brain juice? I’m p sure I was giving an anecdote into why I find using any sorts of products like that unhelpful. Am I missing something?
Steezy Dan nope you were clear. Think they may have misunderstood
Do you even lift bro?
Oh, wait...
Its called growing up, also testosterone levels change over time.
I went through the same changes, started working out after college but spent the better half of my life as some insecure, fat & weak.
Low standards = being a doormat, and yes being physically weak is a low standard because being physically fit and strong requires hard work and dedication.
Its easy to sit in a chair all day, grow fat and/or weak. The clowns with low standards would be the people telling you that its ok....Do you really think being morbidly obese and 400 pounds is having a high standard?
There is only one reasoning you really have to give against the soy estrogen thing; if it was true and soy feminized you WHY ISNT LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE TRANS WOMAN BUYING OUT SOY PRODUCT EN MASSE?
I'm surprised companies have not intentionally tried marketing the phytoestrogens to trick trans women to buy them. I mean it sounds just about cruel and evil enough for capitalism's standards, so how come it hasn't happened?
Also all the Asian cultures that eat a shitton of soy products and do seemingly fine having babies
Because there is more effective ways to get estrogen into your body, by, for example, using HRT?
And, of course, that you'd absorb soyproducts with your mouth, with leads to digestion, which would then lead to the body rejecting most of the absorbed hormones - if you overdo it.
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You didn't have an argument, and just want the soyboy insults to go away huh? Ain't working, soyboy.
Men have estrogen too
Also these guys sound like they absolutely hate women, for their hormones. Which is a weird reason for hating some one.
It’s a justification, not a reason. That’s why stuff like this is always nonsense; it’s irrelevant to what they believe. They hate women, and try to find things to explain why they hate women.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 it’s called post hoc rationalization. Having a conclusion in mind and then connecting the dots in the most absurd way possible to justify your point.
Men have estrogen yes...but only a very small amount. Women have far more (like 20x) than men and vice versa for testosterone.
"these guys sound like they absolutely hate women"
"sound like"
"sound"
Strong evidence there, irrefutable.
No, they hate the hormone because it's something that women (who they hate) have.
There are a hilarious amount of people in the comments trying to roast hbomb by calling him a soy boy, as if they aren't commenting on a 30 minute video thoroughly debunking the soy boy myth.
He's a bald dude with a beard now, indicators of high testosterone levels. Not like evidence means anything to people like that.
Might as well be 🤡🤯🤣
That's because has been scientifically proved that eating Burgers Shrinks human brain.
@@brainslugs8866?
@@dylangardinerthesmollestbo7902 why do all the soyboys just so happen to be weebos? 🤣🤣🤣
What even more hilarious then the whole Alpha/Beta thing being false, is that worrying about who's more alpha is like the most beta thing you can do.
if only soy was feminizing. ive been spending tons of money on estrodial and testosterone blockers when it turns out i could have just been buying tofu.
as we all know, the best hormone therapy is beans
Soy is actually used to treat abnormally high testosterone in women. It’s not a viable option for HRT or transgender surgery.
@@Garrettmoron source?
@@Garrettmoron
No. The treatment is HRT.
“your entire body is your brain”
i can’t move forward
@Jack we dont care what he's referring to, the phrase itself sounds stupid
Jack no he meant it in the sense that you can do anything if you put your mind to it which is pretty common amongst athletes kind of like the one more re mentality but he is an idiot
@@hunni3243 I bet you dont lift lol
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Well, the choice of the word brain in this instance may be unfortunate/some what insensible, but in the context of colloquial speech it should be forgivable since it definitely does not obscure the underlying sentiment which is in fact profound: that your body and mind are one; that good/effective training (physical or otherwise) requires the application of this whole as one.
The choice of the word brain here may actually be particularly sensible as it stresses the importance of your mind in training, which probably was what they have meant to tell their audience.
Well I'm a brain in a jar so that sounds about right.
These people are threatened by a little bean which doesn't contain any mammalian hormones yet they'll eat loads of meat and dairy which contains mammalian hormones....sound logic.
I mean, the point of it not being mammalian doesn't really matter. D2 vitamin, for example, is a phytohormone, but works in the body almost completely in the same way, as animal based D -vitamin, that you synthesize in your skin under sunlight. And yes, vitamin D is a hormone (or a prohormone turning into the active hormone, just like D3)
Every time.
A: "X is true"
B: "X is not true, and here is why."
A: "Hahaha I was just joking I wasn't being serious stop making me look dumb"
"I was only pretending to be retarded" but as a political stance.
@@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong This definitely gets my blessing. Excellent use of the r-pass.
Innuendo Studio's series called The Alt-Right Playbook actually has an interesting analysis of this kind of mindset, I believe the episode is called The Card Says Moops. Decide people are serious if you want to make fun of them, decide they're joking if you want to make fun of someone else. If you haven't seen it I recommend it, the title of the series may be misleading but its's a good leftist analysis of alt-right techniques.
Schrodinger's dumbfuck
Minor update:
A: "X is true"
B: "X is not true, and here is why."
A: "Hahaha I was just joking I wasn't being serious stop making me look dumb. Anyway, X is true"
I've never understood why some men even care about their sperm count - that's like me bragging about how many eggs I have
Because they’re obsessed with the idea of “breeding” as much women as possible and yet have no plans to actually raise any children they produce
Because their entire belief system revolves around the twin ideas of Objective Truth and Permanent Competition. They believe that there is exactly one correct way to live, and the only way to find that correct way is to constantly compare yourself to everyone else, in every way you can think of, and whomever comes out on top must be the Most Correct. Everything that cannot be reduced to a numerical score is irrelevant. Anyone who tries to claim that certain things are incomparable or that the rating system is flawed is dismissed as a Cope. It's completely irrational, but rationality is not the point. The point is to keep people engaged in a cycle of inadequacy and superiority, so men can point to these numbers as evidence for how much better they are than everyone else, while enforcing a submissive attitude towards men who can claim a higher score than them on whatever arbitrary standard they care about that week. "You're better than all those limp-wristed plebs and normies, but you'll never be good *enough* unless you do what I tell you and live the way I want to to live."
@@Narokkurai what a sad and exhausting way to live
Sperm count and sperm motility both directly impact male fertility.
@@Ornithopter470 Which is something you're only going to care about once or maybe twice in your life. So long as fertility is some non-zero number, I don't really see the problem. We have so much medical technology dedicated to having kids that there's really no reason to be so worried about something like sperm count.
You have changed my mind about this subject and made me reflect more on the whole matter. But most of all, you've reminded me to make my own researchs instead of waiting for someone's video to tell me what to think about X or Y. I thank you for this. Have a good day.
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Obsessing over who is an Alpha and who is a beta the way right wingers do is literally the most beta behavior imaginable
All comes back to "a real man does what he wants"
Which is a sentiment that still doesnt sit quite right with me, but whatever. Obsessing over whos the "real" and "true" man is just such sad and unhealthy behavior.
Yall are fine the way you are, the perspective of other people does not define you.
Jesus is Lord and Saviour and God in the flesh
Insofar as the notion of alphas and betas holds any validity at all, you're right - needing to define your masculinity based on erroneous observations of a wild animal and the belittlement of others... is pretty fucking beta.
XP spoken like a true beta
@@DrJams Brah, your fragile masculinity is showing.
Ironically, Eugene has the highest testosterone of all four and he's gay. Which is... the opposite of what these dusebros would think.
And still pathetically low lmao
Gay men can still have high testosterone...although Eugene's is still extremely low.
@@DavidW-ng5zv true. i think OP was bringing it up because lots of PJW fans and the like think that being gay automatically makes you super effeminate
@@DavidW-ng5zv Or maybe you just don't know the sexuality of all the men you meet?
@@harpoonlobotomy I'm talking about the ones I DO know about.
Most men these days are very low T/effeminate regardless of sexual orientation, not just the Buzzfeed Guys.
And here I was hoping to transition via bean consumption
The first time I heard that soy was feminizing I (as a trans girl) teared up a little and said "really?"
ha ha ha.
Hbombers disgusting audience collectively all made te same shitty joke
Those idiots manage to even unintentionally lie to yall bruhhh
How are you now?
@@blakksheep736probably trans
LMAOOOOOOO
Fan of skeptic community content watching your vids for the first time. Keep up the good work, we need people like you. The left needs people like you. Please continue shaming bad ideas!
Keep watching, he's got some good ass shit about video games too! It's also nice to see someone who just puts real effort into the 'video' side of 'videos on the internet'
Which skeptics are you into, and which major ideas in that community do you agree/disagree with? I'm always curious about this stuff, none of this is rhetorical.
Check out the Michael Brooks Show on the Majority Report, he's an articulate, intelligent dude who blends humour, wit, insight, knowledge and, perhaps most importantly, nuance as well as makes left wing ideas accessable, understandable and explains concepts that trigger the anti-SJWs in a way that I think a fan of the "Skeptics" would like and understand, and hopefully you'll join the cuckoldry!
Keep watching him like me, and you'll stop being their fan
And you are a credit to the skeptic community. Too many tend to be ironically unthinking, who just go with their first assumption on things and never let people challenge their views. I'm glad that people like you exist. Even if we might disagree on some things, it's good that we can do so with mutual respect.
I have a friend who wanted to go on testosterone to transition, but he had really high levels on his blood tests, so his treatment was delayed for nearly two years. It had virtually no visible effects on him, so he still needed HRT, but needed to figure out why his natural T levels were so high beforehand to make sure he wasn't dying. Turns out there was pretty much no reason for it. If I remember correctly, when it spiked in the mornings it spiked Hard at 150 ng/dL or so, which just happened to be when he got his tests done. But in the afternoons it would go back to the normal 15-70 ng/dL for his sex assigned at birth. It didn't show up as secondary sex characteristic because it was only high for a short period per day. He's now on T and carefully monitored, so all's well that ends well. But it just goes to show how weird and unpredictable human endocrinology can be. 'Normal' doesn't have to just mean 'a statistical majority'. 'Normal' can include the weird shit our bodies do that don't harm us but make for really interesting science papers
Which is why there's a health range for stuff and its not just a random number
As the saying goes, there is no average person
Wonderful comment.