A KEY Detail About Who Told Yozora To 'Save Sora'
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- One of a number of overdue theory videos I've been meaning to make. I mentioned this during my 1K livestream, but I wanted to dedicate a video to this topic as well as touching on some other details I've noticed about what we've seen so far of Verum Rex, Yozora, & Quadratum, and believe it or not, there's still more to come!
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Some of you may have heard me mention this already in my stream, but I wanted to dedicate a video to this to better illustrate my point and also expand on some other observations I've made about Verum Rex, Yozora, and Quadratum. And believe it or not, I've still got more to share.
Are you gonna look into the kh3 character files book? There are character stories that may interest you. More specifically from tranalations xigbar/luxu wishes that sora would just listen to him so that he wont "disapear". He has seen far to many keyblade wielders who thought that they were heros and they all ended up dead. He also mentiona there being more than one official kingdom hearts. He also seems to be forgetting some things from his time as luxu whenever he really gets into his xigbar personality. This all takes place right before luxord and xigbar in olympus. Its all his inner thoughts at the time.
And demyx he spent a lot of alone time with "the old man" because he was a loner just like demyx. This same old man told him "may your heart be your guiding key." It is either xigbar, old man xehanort, or yen sid. Those are the only 3 that would fit during kh3. This is all canon according to the character files book.
@@jjankrom4398 I've looked at them before, but I didn't remember all these things, so I think I should take another read through them. Thanks for the suggestion!
So at the beginning of kh 1, We see sora asleep and dreaming but he dreams into the heart of a couple worlds. Yozora seems like he was dreaming and ended up into the heart of sora. Sora’s main task was to restore the worlds, yozoras task is to specifically save sora maybe. He goes through some trials ( just like yozora) with the dream sword and is constantly being guided and talked to by someone. Sora didnt go there on purpose just like yozora “ I accidentally stumbled here and went through some trials. “ yozora says exactly what sora says “ ive been having these weird thoughts lately ....etc “
'I accidentally wandered into this place, and went through some trials. Then, I was told to "save Sora."'
This is basically Riku's story in Dream Drop Distance. In the beginning of DDD, Riku accidentally ends up in Traverse Town where he meets TWEWY characters who are from Shibuya. Where does the fight between Sora and Yozora take place? Shibuya. Also, If you believe my theory that Yozora used the power of waking of Sora, then in a meta way, Yozora saying he accidentally wandered into the place, could be meant as a hint by Nomura saying that "the place" is Sora's dream. Riku also accidentally ends up in Sora's dream.
"... and went through some trials."
Obviously, the Mark of Mastery can be considered trials, but what makes the parallel stronger is the fact that Yen Sid himself says about Sora and Riku's specific mark of mastery that it's "more TRIAL than test".
"Then, I was told to 'save Sora'."
at the end of DDD, Riku was told to 'wake Sora'. Basically the same thing. It would make sense too. If Sora is in some sort of dream world like the cutscene seems to imply or if he's trapped in his own dream or something, Sora needs to be wakened.
But what do these parallels mean? I don't know. But maybe these parallels are supposed to imply that Yozora went through a Mark of Mastery of his own or at least something equivalent. If he went through a Mark of Mastery, it would explain why he's so powerful. It could also explain why he has the power of waking as the power of waking was what was acquired upon completion of Sora and Riku's Mark of Mastery. If the parallels hold true, than the one telling Yozora to "save Sora" would be Yozora's master or if he doesn't have a master, the conductor of the exam. Still nothing definitive. It could be the Master of Masters or it could be someone we've never met yet.
This is an interesting theory! It reminds me of that loading screen in ToyBox where Sora commented that "Yozora looks just like Riku" or something along those lines 🤔 They must be connected somehow!
Yeah, Riku and Yozora does have similar outfit too.
@@horrorpill yeah, I thought that yozora looked more like riku than sora. Especially in that secret ending cut scene, I almost wasn’t sure if that was supposed to be riku or yozora when I first watched it
"Who Told Yozora To Save Sora?"
...alright, it was me.
It all makes sense now!
The possibilities are endless
Of course there are. That’s called shitty writing.
I still believe that Yozora's world is an alternate version of Sora's world, meaning that "Sora" could be the Nameless Star? IDK... Nomura needs to give us more bread crumbs lol
We know that Yozora's world is "the other world", the nonreal one, the fictional one, the parallel of Sora's real world.
Master of Masters told Yozora because he's in that world. In KH mobile game, MoM was talking to one of the original 13 darkness entities and the darkness entity told him "So which world do you intend to disappear to?" and Master of Masters told him "A world unseen and inconceivable. Somewhere where neither darkness or light can take control." and the darkness said "Which is?" and MoM said "Somewhere neither eyes and voices can reach."
My man...im with you.
MoM: Save me..
Yozora: What?
MoM: No, i mean, save Sora..
Yozora: ah. Ok
It's funny how we can easily miss the simplest of things. It seems almost hard to believe it could be so simple, but given how much confusing mysteries there already are, I wouldn't mind a nice straight forward answer like this. And as you've laid out, it does seem to be the case based on what Yozora said.
I’m the secret ending that when Riku and Sora woke up their colors were highlighted, which was red and blue. That are the same color as Yozora’s eyes. So my theory is that Riku and sora are the same person two sides to a broken heart. Which is why the cloaked figure made a heart with two different hands to make a heart. Also he repeats the same saying as Sora because they are the same person.
Finally. This is the first good video I've seen on the topic, actually analyzing what was said and the things that happened, without just wildly jumping to conclusions
I think MoM makes the most sense, but there is another potential possibility. It's not impossible that this meeting between Yozora & Sora takes place *after* Riku has already arrived to Quadratum, and he could have made the request himself. It's unlikely, but I figured I'd mention the possibility
Nomura loves teasing us so we can keep creating more theories - who knows if he''l get inspired by some of them?
Ha. I'm not sure if Nomura does that, but there's certainly writers out there who take theories from their audience and incorporate them into their stories. The last Star Wars film was pretty much exactly that
@@NextGenNovelist I was kidding but there are creators that definitely like to provide some true fan service.
I like the idea of it being the MOM that told him. He set things in motion for Xehanort, why not Yazora? Something I feel is missing ( and that no one as far as I have seen thus far is talking about) from the aspect of the MOM plan to go into the future using his eye as a waypoint is the fact that I believe he is not just traveling from the UX/Key/X time to the point after Xehanort is defeated. But can be in any time in between as he was able to appear to young Xehanort with a body. This is probably because Luxu and the eye have been able to exist through many lifetimes retaining the memories and waypoint needed. The MOM could have manipulated every event we have seen take place and possibly has been guiding Sora and the others to do what needed to be done for his long term plans. Sometimes I think he was the voice Sora heard in KH1 in his dreams when first visiting the station of awakening. And could be guiding Yazora int a similar manner. Through dreams. I dont believe he is Sora (as some people are saying), but I do believe Sora is very important to him. And is now in need of him directly guiding him to Quadratum to finally start his end goals. Which now includes maybe another version of Sora, Yazora. They could be two sides of the same coin.
The thing about the waypoint makes sense too since the MOM states to darkness about a world he cannot conceive being seen by him implying it was no name in quadratum. This would mean Luxu is somewhere in Quadratum too at current time, as well as the 4 Union Leaders that used Luxu as a waypoint.
I believe Mom's true form is in Luxu, Sora, Ventus, and Kairi. He has Eyes in other people's eyes. Think Eraqus in Terra.
The nameless star is ava
It might've been Joshua because in dream drop he said to Riku he has a friend that's like him. And for some reason Yozora looks like Riku. Also Joshua can travel between dreams using rhyme and he knows Sora.
That could mean that while yozora and luxard are working together but their have their own ways of achieving their goals.yozora probably doesn’t even know that luxard was in the kh universe or what the card is he gave to sora.
I’ll bet MoM, could be the same person who ordered Sora in the station of awakening.
Maybe Yazora isn’t a player in the reaper’s game, but a reaper himself.
Honestly the darker side of KH lore cant be told through soras unconditional and accepting eyes/lens. Yozoras story will give us so many revelations
In the beggining he said that when he wandered to this place, someone told him to save sora, maybe this person is riku because in the end of mom he goes to this world
Maybe, but...how did Riku know of Yozora?
I don't think so... Riku is still one year away from appearing in this world
I hadn't really thought about whether "Shibuya" and Quadratum would be two separate places 🤔 that's an interesting point
Some of my theories just got crushed by this video bro haha. I'd disagree but I'd just be doing it to save my theories. I think your right and a lot of just overlooked what he blatantly said
I could still be wrong! I think what I've said is solid, but you never know with this series
Thanks for this video bro
Thank you for your comment!
@@NextGenNovelist no problem I've shared the video
Save sora sounds like something Kairi would say.
If the world of Quadratum is split as you say it does explain why Yozora attacks Sora after stating he must save him.
Here's my theory: the Dream Quadratum is not a place so easily accessible to normal people of Quadratum and within the dream there are monsters, heartless possibly, and of course the mechas. These dangers also could leak into the real world as well so a organization began to build up to repel these dream monsters with Yozora as their commander.
As for how Yozora found himself in the dream Quadratum i have no idea but as for the trials he suffered i dont think they were literal tests but actually things he experienced in this dream place ie losing people hes close to, fighting strong monsters and such.
Now for the Sora thing while i love the idea of it being Master of Masters who sent Yozora i have an alternative what if it was Strelitzia what if Sora was transported to the world but his body landed in the real Quadratum while his heart/soul/mind was in the Dream so Strelitzia took care of Sora while he slept while she told Yozora to save him in the dream and the only way to do that was to forcebly kick him out of the Dream Quadratum.
This is kind of what im hoping.
You prove a veerrrryyyy good point my man. My bet is the same but KH is unpredictable so we shall see!
Believe what you see, not what you hear
"None of this...makes sense to me".
-The entire Kingdom Hearts story in a nutshell...
Yoo what's the music in the background ? It's beautiful!
I actually never thought of this! You articulated it so well - thank you! It makes more sense if this is Yozora dreaming, and remember, Riku also had the same dream so maybe it could of been Riku that told Yozora to save him in the dream (i hope that makes sense lol.) I'm also confused when Yozora says "This isn't really what I look like" ...
Great video as always :)
Riku tells Ansem the Wise and the others that he saw a city with tall buildings and a figure watching him from above, but that's it. So he never met Yozora in that dream. He will most likely meet him soon though, but I think it'll be in the next KH game. And yeah, Yozora's true form is easily one of the most confusing parts of all of this, and that's saying something lol
But anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the nice comment Soraya! 😁
@@NextGenNovelist but Riku looked up at Yozura when Yozura is sitting on top of the building staring at him!
I still hold on to something like the 'Master's Game' bc the secret reports of TWEWY have so many stuff in them that can be related to KH
Happy TWEWY The Animation debut btw🤗
The fact that before Sora vs Yozora, Yozora asks Sora to “prove it.” As in, “proving that you ARE without a doubt this Sora that I was told to find, you must prove it to me by battle.” That gives me hope that it really is Riku who helps Yozora understand that he is the one that has to help Sora get out of this dream Shibuya. And that the ride with Luxord is just a day (or couple of days) after meeting Riku (“the trials,” whatever they may be, happened before the meeting) - maybe the card is what connects him to Sora through Luxord’s somebody’s memories.
Just food for thought.
After the most recent khux update I also feel like it's MoM.
Yozora obviously read the mission prompt, he has tp Save Sora to continue the story
My personal theory is that the wild card that Luxord gave to Sora was the "medium" for him to reach Sora's time-line, since every organization member that got defeated, was sent back to the past... So...If Luxord's somebody has a waypoint, he can lead his comrades there including Yozora, by passing through unreality, like the foretellers did.
I agree. I believed it has to be MoM. I also think it could be Nameless Star, since some part of her "memory" stay in Final World so Yozora can cross over to enter our KH for "real".
Verum Rex commercial and the battle place with our Sora probably happened at the same place. They are both empty.
I'm guessing, since Yozora is the MC in a "game" called Verum Rex, he is "programmed" to "save Sora". I think the one who has control over this is MoM.
Maybe in the dream fight against yazora, they're in TWEWY since it's likely a sleeping world and one of the cast from DDD instructed him to save sora. The place he wakes up in the secret ending cutscene could be a data version of that same world
Because it's in the book of prophecies.
His keyboard saw it all. And he is mostly sora himself which is why Xenonorth wanted to make sora a seeker of darkness
3:26 also I’m pretty sure those are the same effects you see when you hit enemies with Star Seeker... and the one to tell Riku about not-Shibuya was the “nameless star...”
Donald and Goofy’s characters told him to save Sora when they’re in the Verum Rex game.
So after getting more lore to KH I remembered something did we ever figure out what luxord gave sora what the card said / had in it
Probably unlikely, but I hope it's Demyx. He needs something to do.
I agree that he needs something to do at least lol
I told him to dw guys this is one mystery we don’t have to worry about
You know after seeing your videos on the woman who may have the nickname Sora I always thought Sora was referring to her and that it was his self-conscious that told him to save Sora. But if wasn’t his self-conscious then could it have been Luxord? I do have this headcanon he’s related to Hoshizora (as I’m calling her) that he’s related to her.
Hoshizora ? Your joking right
@@shaun7002 I've been theorising for the past year her name is Sora, but Miranda and some other people suggested her name could be a sort of combination between Sora (sky) and Star (Hoshi) in Japanese, so Hoshizora which is Starry Sky I believe. So she'd be called "Sora" for short as a nickname or something. I personally think that's a good way of satisfying almost all sides on that theory but ultimately I believe her name will at least be Sora
I think it was Luxord that told him. Most of not all the organization 13 members knew about sora’s fate. They knew what would happen if he would abuse the power of waking. And the only organization member that seems to have any kind of tie to yozora, is Luxord. Seems Luxord is trying to help sora, like when he gave him the wildcard. Luxord’s intentions are still unknown to us at the end of the day
Honestly I have a feeling that at some point we will get a game specifically with Yozora as the protagonist who does things in his own world as the "commander" role he is in, possibly he is a person that in that reality isnt currently called by that name, seeing as he wonders how Sora knows who he is. Maybe in his backstory he was together with the girl we meet in the final world and something happened which "killed" the girl and made him change his name and possibly face (maybe the red eye has something to do with powers gained later on as they glow when he uses specific moves in the bossfight, while the blue eye might be his true eye color and of a bigger importance to his char, as it is the eye that gets zoomed into during the Verum Rex game trailer).
I have a feeling that Yozora will enter some type of dream realm whenever he sleeps, which is why "Hes been having these thoughts lately". And the encounter with Sora is just one of those dreams and its possible that the MoM is the one who told him to save Sora during those dream sequences.
These dreams might question his own reality, which might be something that gets his memories from the girl he knew back then back.
Another possibility for the game: Possibly advertised as a Riku/Sora DDD like game, but you eventually get to play as Yozora to show a third perspective on the story.
Joshua told him too (personal head cannon)
Also whoever says "Commander!" Thats not Luxords voice thats some person trying to reach the real Yozora from the dream like Riku was able to speak to Sora.
Well the Master of Masters can see the future through his Keyblade... Maybe Luxu will see something where MoM knows Sora needs to be saved soon
Between Yozora saying he went through some trials and also saying that this isn't how he actually looks, it's a safe bet that he was in the Reapers' game because Shiki also didn't look how she did in real life. Which means maybe Sora is now in the Reapers' game too.
But what about when Yozora wakes up in the car? Why doesn't he look different then?
@@NextGenNovelist Good point. Maybe he's still in the Reapers' game when he wakes up and facing Sora was another trial. When he says someone told him to "save Sora", it's like when Neku would get a text telling him what he had to do that day to not get noisified. So Yozora gets this challenge along with a time limit, and just like Joshua helped Neku, Luxord or whoever the driver is is helping Yozora and teaches him how to find and confront Sora.
Might actually be the same answer for who are those "what to do" messages show up every dive into the heart in the f
games lol "open the door, save sora"
Also the nameless star is named sora I remember a picture of hikaru utada dressed like the nameless star with the kingdom key so yozora told him self to say sora
At 6:54 sora is shocked to see that car. Is this the car that yozura is in? Also why is the steering wheel on the opposite side of where it should be? Is this a mirror world?
other counties they have the drivers side on the opposite side
The master of master because in union cross there's a secret cut scene at the end with yozora
It was not real
@@АннаПШЕНИЧНОВА-к5о I still think its MoM, but different reason. In KHUX, MoM told a darkness entity that he is going to disappear somewhere where neither light or darkness can take control. The darkness thought he meant Data world, and MoM told him it wasnt the Data world but rather a fictional world.
About Noctis looking out the window, the "impressive part" they were talking about wasn't the city (it's their own city that they grew up in anyway so it wouldn't make sense). They were talking about the Nifelheim airships. Nifelheim was coming to Insomnia under the pretense of signing a peace treaty, Noctis seeing all these airships commented that "it was more like an invasion", he was annoyed that Nifelheim would bring so many war airships to a peace treaty. Which is ironic because Nifelheim was planning to invade all along and the peace treaty sign was a ruse. This is obviously not going to be in Verum Rex since it's not Versus XIII but i doubt they were talking about the city in Yozora's scene either. We'll just have to wait and see.
Thanks for the clarification. Yeah I did think them referring to the city might be odd but tbh I forgot about the ships being from Niflheim. Now that you mention it, I remember now about the "peace" treaty signing and that they put it Kingsglaive rather than the game. Well, in that case, I think it's more likely the driver is referring to something related to ships, or maybe the Gigas mechs or something similar. The main thing I just wanted to move away from was the idea he's referring to the dream Yozora had because a lot of people would probably have used that argument to counter my points otherwise
we have a long time to wait 😂 we'll be on ps7 by then 😂😂
I think it is an Angel. Specifically, an higher dimensional being. To be more specific, the truer version of Mom.
If I had to guess, Joshua.
NieR ost in the background makes me dream of a KH game directed by Yoko Taro
Lmao that would be the most Non-KH game conceivable
I didn't miss this
Well this came by surprise.
I remember you saying this. I see no issues here. Didn't you also say something about MoM being the creator of the kingdom hearts universe too or something? 🤔 That'd be really interesting to hear about in a video!
Sort of.. I was saying he's basically the author of kingdom hearts. That's a theory I've been thinking about for a while now. Not sure if I'll do a video on it just yet though..
@@NextGenNovelist oh yeah that's the word! "Author". I can't believe you even still have all these theories to share lol
@@ThatLucinaLady There's one video in particular about Verum Rex that I've not made yet that I had the idea for months ago, just like this one. I'm going to certainly cover it in one of my next few videos. It'll partially be a theory, but also mostly just an observation I'd like to share with others to get their thoughts on
people say hes talkin about someone else when he says he’ll save sora but thats impossible because if u lose he clearly walks up to sora and says “i will save you” which means he doesnt know who sora is yes he was told nd we dnt know who but thats who hes supposed to save our sora context is everything yall
Ay what's that beautiful music in the background?
Cool
I already had a theory that this battle between Sora and Yozora would have happened in the future, that both Sora and Yozora were having a premonition of future events, so Yozora wakes up from a dream and mentions that he is having weird thoughts, the same phrase that was used by Sora in KH1 TO REFER TO THE GLAZES THAT WAS HAVING TO OPEN THE DOOR TO THE LIGHT, and so I imagine that if we have a Yozora game, we will go all the way to the match against Sora, and maybe the one who asked to save Sora is Riku himself
No proof
I still dont think Yozora is looking for OUR Sora, but rather another Sora, hence why he's confused about Sora's looks. The nameless star is most likely the girl we see in the Verum Rex trailer, since we know that she seems to be taken away and the only place Quadratum so far can connect to is either the final world or Yozora's world, hence the girl cant return to her body and her heart remains in the final world hoping to be saved by Yozora. Could be completely possible both the girl from the trailer and our sora share the same name.
Well I got like 4 videos agreeing with that thought! 😁
As your 600th like.... nice video.
You know what I find funny? At around 2:46 we can see Yozora and his allies’ weapons. This is probably reaching (but you never know with these games) those are oddly specific colors since that was the _exact_ same coloring Sora went through in KH2 before he settled on his new outfit. I sure don’t hope that Yozora and his two allies can combine into one being....
But then again Yozora can cast water, which is only one of three people to do so despite being unfamiliar with the Keyblade. So idfk
Dude looks exactly like riku lol
Hey man, about all this, they showed another trailer for twewy 2, with hishima from verum rex in it, i thought it was interesting :)
I think the hooded figures told him about sora thqt we saw in kh4 trailer.
Yo what's the music intro called?
Probably the same guy who told namatame to keep “saving” people
It like putting your hero on a shelf. The Final Fantasy 13 and 15 Gods do it all the time.
I think its kari who asked him
What if, taking how he says it and then draws his weapons, it’s like the voice from the trials we do at the start of the games, and when he sees sora he’s just sick of the world, and decides to fight against the voice telling him to “save sora” by defeating him instead, as a kinda fuck you im not doing this anymore kind of attitude, which does kinda seem like yozoras character
I feel like KH4 will start off with us playing as yozora during his trials in his destati-dive into the heart leading up to his fight with sora. And the voice speaking to him telling him to save sora, might be the same one who was speaking to sora during his in KH1.
Naw it wont be main entry. It will be spin off: Kingdom Hearts version 15 by 13 Dreams of Insomnia
We would play as me in Kh4 not My Yozura look alike !
I'm still wondering why rikus hair changed to look more like yazora after going to the realm of darkness, also I feel like sora and riku might run into neku and Joshua.
He went through the barber shop to get a new haircut
Probably Riku's and that event is after he goes to Quadratum and searched for him, remember that in the dream, Yozora was already looking at Riku from distance and Riku wants to save Sora... Epilogue like thing for another title... It can be this point since Yozora after that, wakes up in his own World, that if Sora losing is the canon one tho, who knows... Better wait.
The more I watch videos about the confusing, exciting, and VERY LONG THICC ASS story of the whole Kingdom Hearts series makes me want to dive deeper into it. What if Nomura is the Master of Masters all along? I know it's a longshot but anything could happen.
Xenahort is MoM's nobody, anagram is another
My boi Joshua ofc
Could be Luxord, but I'm not sure
It could be luxord.
We know that Riku has also been to this dream version of Quadratum/Shabuya as we see Yazora looking over him in the secret movie from KH3 so I was thinking that maybe he was the one who told Yazora to save Sora. Because my only issue with it being the MoM is why would he want to save Sora and how would he even know that Sora’s there? This is why I think it would make more sense if Riku were the one to tell Yazora to save Sora. Now just to clarify I do think that the MoM is in Quadratum for a reason and I think he was the one who created these trials for Yazora but I don’t think he’s the one who told Yazora to save Sora
Maybe it was kairi and she sees yazora as riku
this dream shibuya is TWEWY's world...you can see the 104 in the building....in real life it's 109
What is this ost?
Just gonna say i love song from Nier
What if it was Neku?
Could be Joshua...in the trials
There's a lot of interesting things happening, but I think that I sort of got a grasp as to what may be happening.
First and foremost, the similarity between the meta-conceptual point of reference should be in the titles.
Both "Kingdom" Hearts and Verum "Rex" not only have an overlapping effect, but also a "two sides of the same coin" type of duality going on.
If you isolate the quotation nouns and put them together you'd get two words that go along with each other. Kingdom with Rex(latin for King), as well as Hearts and Verum(latin for true); the second part could be referring to Kingdom Hearts itself.
The KH universe thus far is referred to as the "real" world from the standpoint of Ansem, which is its inhabitant; while VR(Verum Rex -- kind of interesting that the abbreviation of it is VR, considering that Yozora seems to be using data to materialize stuff) is being label as the "unreality" that is supposed to be neither of Light, nor of Darkness.
The strange thing is that while KH worlds are divided into 3 realms: Light, Darkness and In-Between, they seem to imply to share the realm of Dreams, Data and Memories given that the Nameless Star, which is from the "unreality" is in the Final World. The Final World itself is a location that is situated as the last stop before death according to Ven's Chirithy, a place where "the edges of sleep and death touch" which is a very important detail. If the hearts of deceased are ascending to Kingdom Hearts, and according to Nameless Star, Yozora's heart was replaced with the heart of someone else, then that means that Kingdom Hearts is somewhat connected to the unreality as well.
The question is, whether the connection of Kingdom Hearts is direct or not; because the last segment of the Secret Ending seems to be implying that the Master wants to do something with Kingdom Hearts inside the unreality.
So what would be the Master's plan then?
One idea I've got, and the one that I'm the most confident about is that the Master's plan is centered around overthrowing both Light and Darkness and freeing himself from the "duty" of a Keyblade wielder.
Think about it. So far, we know that the most primordial of the forces is Darkness, and that Light itself was born from it, at least according to Xehanort. But we know that the Light and Darkness have been clashing for as long as they exist, and that this conflict is called the "Keyblade War".
The Darkness itself was the first force to ever exist, so it's safe to assume that it is stronger than Light, which is why it is eventually swallowing the Worlds and likely why the Master is straight up destroying different Worlds just as he did with Daybreak Town(the newest UX update). He even said so himself, that there's just nothing he, or anyone can do once the Darkness reaches the Worlds.
Maybe, that's also the reason he killed off the Keyblade wielders in Daybreak Town. The Master sort of implied that the Dandelions are meant to be Keyblade Wielders strong enought to oppose Darkness. If we go by the conversation of Young Xehanort with MoM in Remind; how YX spoke about the weak being consumed by Darkness, it'd tie into the whole end of Chi(X). You could see that some wielders were so obssessed with Lux, that they started to fight each other for no reason, while the Dandelions, especially the Player and Skuld were against fighting each other. They didn't give in to greed, or anger just like the other wielders did. That is one point.
The other is the Master's specific obsession on making Xehanort use the Darkness. In Remind, you could see that the Master mentions the "control over Darkness" to Xehanort as he clenches his fist, shortly followed by the fact that he is too much of a "scaredy cat" to take the coat off(the one that wards off the Darkness). Now, if you also look at who the Foretellers were before being assigned their roles, and after; it makes much sense. The reason why they are named after sins, is because the Master wanted to cultivate the Darkness inside them. They turned out from people that hanged around each other, to turining against each other. Eventually becoming the personification of the sins they were named after.
That sheds a lot of light on the Master's plan already, so we're going a step further.
A heart is said to house both Light and Darkness. Sora has Darkness as seen in his usage of Anti-Form and Rage Form. Riku has it. A lot of people do. A mix of it is a standard.
So what if, Kingdom Hearts itself, from which we can assume all hearts come from, is both of Light and Darkness? It is a First Light as Xehanort said, but he did mention that it emerged from Darkness. A lot of people has been making an assumption that the dark Kingdom Hearts was "corrupted" by Xehanort, but what Xehanort did was unlock it with the X-Blade, and used its power.
That's like the biggest argument for the fact that KH can change states, and is both Light and Darkness at the same time.
So, let's say that, for instance, the forces of Light and Darkness are conscious. By being in the already proposed stalemate, what if they would spawn a proxy for them to wage a War at a larger scale?
In Cornerstones of the World's Rebirth, the Master spoke that the Keyblade War he has been fighting for, was going on for a long time; but what is curious is that he not only fought alongside other wielders. Luxu did ask Master, if the Darkness had monstrous forms like it does usually, but the Master has said that the Darkness "took form" that was similiar to how he, and other wielders looked like. Luxu then proceeds to assume that the Darkness took out the "human form" to which Master replied that he "didn't say that".
If we go by the logic of the last KHUX update, and the Darkness referring to itself as "we" then I think that we've hit the sweet spot.
Darkness taking forms, and referring to itself as "we" can be a confirmation that the force itself is conscious in some way. So what if, the Master and other wielders are the same?
What if the Master is a being created solely by Light, but in a more independent way? By that I'm implying that the beings of Light would have been granted free will as a unpredictability in order to triumph in the Keyblade War, but would be forever chained to serve as soldiers to the force of Light, never being able to free themselves from their duty?
That'd explain why the Master would try to overthrow everything. Why he, who can't control the Darkness, would try to use humans to destroy the order. Why the Master would be so interested in "unreality", the side that is "neither of Darkness, nor Light" to find a way free himself. I mean, he did mention that he has grown tired of the War and wants to take a break in the Cornerstones of the World's Rebirth episode of KHUX.
Maybe, he's trying to transfer the conflict of Light and Darkness into Yozora's reality? Given that he made the heart symbol on the moon visible from Quadratum.
That's on one side.
Onto the Verum Rex, in case someone's still interested in this theory.
Verum Rex has a concept of hearts, and science. That's undeniable by what the Nameless Star, and Yozora himself have presented to us so far.
The Nameless Star mentions that her form was stolen, and that's why she's currently in the Final World. On the other hand, she mentions that Yozora has "changed beyond recognition, his heart replaced with anothers". She also says that "but if he were to regain his old self, he'd be disstressed by my absence".
Connect it with what Yozora said to Sora i.e "This isn't what I really look like" and "How did u recognize me as Yozora" and also "Why are you using Sora's name?" -- plus the things he does during the transition between the Final World to the fight on the top of 109 departament store building,
All of that, and the fact that Yozora is supposedely a "shogun/commander" is pointing me towards stuff.
-> That the reality of Verum Rex is at the state of War, similiar to Kingdom Hearts' reality. Just without the whole Darkness vs Light deal.
-> That there exist a concept of hijacking bodies(the box art for Verum Rex in Toy Story's world literally has "reclaim your heart" written on it, and it does mention "karma" as well), most likely using the knowledge from the KH reality, give that the Final World is connected to unreality, and Luxord(likely being Yozora's butler) found a way to travel to KH's universe(maybe the unreality treats KH's world as a fictional world, givne that we literally dive into Disney worlds, which from the standpoint of our reality are fictional, animated movies).
-> That Yozora can not only dive into dreams(the transition between his fight with Sora, and him waking up), but can also use his powers to shape the reality.
Again, the Final World is where the edges of sleep and death touch -- Kairi in Melody of Memory visits it, while dreaming and then with the Fairy Godmother and Riku, while being awake.
So there not only seem to be two different versions of the Final World, but both are at the far edge of the realm of dreams. One that is public(where the stars reside) and one that is private(KH3 tutorial Sora, and Kairi's battle with Xehanort -- in both the stars are not present).
-> That, if the Namless Star is correct; the Yozora that Sora talks to is not actually Yozora, or whoever is controlling Yozora right now has the same name as Yozora.
To the third point as extension. A lot of people have been speculating recently that the Player's heart is inside Yozora right now.
But the thing is, the Nameless Star has told Sora about Yozora, so that means that this Noctis' look alike must be Yozora. So I don't know, if Yozora got brainwashed, or if whoever is controlling Yozora right now has the same name as him. Things just don't add up.
One thing I'm onto though, is that the CM for Verum Rex in Toy Story seems to be a prequel. Given that Yozora is trying to save the Nameless Star with the help of Aegis and Magia. That means that CM Yozora does know about the Nameless Star, and she says to Sora in the Finlar World that she doesn't remember her atm. Plus the fact that she is alive in the CM.
That is as far as I can puzzle though. Thanks for the read. This theory is long af, so sorry for that.
Yazora is from a video game right? Which means someone else would be controlling him. That's why he 'doesn't really look like this' and its 'not the real world'. That's also why Sora couldn't speak in MoM, only fight. Just a thought.
How big is actually the chance that Noctis has something to do with this. I never really played FF15 nor the other FF games but I read that there also is the "True King" with the power to get rid of all darkness etc. I also read that Noctis slept for 10 years once. Also wasn't there something like that Nomura once said that he named Sora and Noctis like that on intention? That Noctis and Sora is connected etc? I faintly remember reading something like that.
I don't know I want more breadcrumbs and answers but I also don't want this to end.
0:35maybe it was Kairi
5:42 3:03 1:25
Joseph did it
It was Luxord lol
The Master of Masters wants to save Sora?
Here y’all go I’m gonna explain to y’all about this “other side” and how squire hid it right under our noses.
Inside a game is the world they speak of as the other side, id assume the “other side” isn’t just one world it’s similar to the kh world where it’s split into many different worlds. My reasoning for saying this is because I believe the final Fantasy characters are from this “other side” and they’ve gotten lost or stuck on the other side of their real world which is the kh world. It makes sense cause final fantasy is a video game not only in reality, but inside of the kingdom hearts world too, there’s proof of this all thru out the toy story world in KH3. Now that I think about it kh3 lacked any FF characters which is pretty crazy since they appeared in both kh 1 and 2. Verum Rex is supposed to be looked at as a video game to (but I don’t think kingdom hearts is supposed to be looked at as a video game in terms of lore it makes sense that it shouldn’t atleast not yet wink wink) It is obvious that Verum Rex is the world sora is in, and now Riku. So now instead of visiting Disney worlds we well be visiting game worlds, more accurately (squire Enix worlds more specifically final fantasy worlds) which will destroy the smash cross overs lmao.
Back on topic tho xenort already knows of the other world which isn’t far fetched, final fantasy characters been in it since BBS. Which is when xenort plan took its course. More proof of this is when young xenort puts sora into the game world in kh3 he says “haven’t you heard? In this world (referring to the toy story world) your apart of a video game” this is young xeanort toying (pun fully intended) with sora because he clearly knows sora and yozora aren’t the same person and that sora cannot be from the toy story world, I think what xeanort was actual referring to is sora actual comes from this other side or game world that. Since young xeanort put sora inside the game and states “you can watch my plan from inside the screen” means sora can still see the “other side” while being inside of the “other side” but his voice will not reach thru the glass like his vision. When xenort is confronted by sora in the the final world, he tells sora that his words will not reach him cause again he’s in the other side or game world if u will. But then he tells sora he knows where he is🤔 how could he possibly know where sora is? Oh that’s right cause xenort is the one who put sora into the Yozora world in the first place. Maybe it was just a piece of sora just like it was just a piece of sora in Kiaris heart that stood up and faught xenort in the final world.
If you are still reading then I got some tea for you !! Ok so let’s take it back to kh2 while in ansems research lab what world do we find ? Oh that’s right trons world, isn’t that world a video game? Not only is it a video game but the mcp had control over ansems computer as if ansem gave it permission, now this is where it’s gonna get tricky.
Sora along with donal and goofy were teleported to this other side aka trons world because that is a game world. Something worth to mention is the fact that the key blade followed him to the other side. Tron ask sora to find the password to the dtd which is something tron was hacked out of by the mcp which was only brought back because of ansem..... or so that’s what they want you to believe because remember ansem was betrayed by who? Oh yeah xenort and the password to the dtd was Kairi. During the time the password was made there’s no anyone besides xenort would have chosen “kiari” as a password especially now that we have the events of xenort and kairis plan in melody of memory.
I also want to touch on the being known as darkness for a second.
1.) vanitas claims to be darkness near the end of kh3 2.) the ppl at the end of kh3 that you fight are wearing clothes similar to what vanitas wears, and if you remember darkness claimed that there is multiple of him and so I think these are actually the beings referred to as darkness from kh union.
3.) after beating these “darkness” they then fuse with xeanort which makes him a new “darkness” which makes me question is xenort just another pure heart being manipulated by darkness like ventus in the past?
Anyways back to kh2, remember tron says that ansem the wise is his
user which would be correct but then remember xenort betrays ansem (I actually think darkness is the reason for this.) And that is the reason the mcp is brought back. the mcp actually hacks tron taking all the things that ansem would have given him.4.) after tron gets his data back he tells sora that ansem is his enemy too, He then further says that ansem is the one who brought back the mcp but he says something that sticks out “the ansem I first knew wouldn’t do that”
And that makes perfect sense because the first ansem tron knew was the real ansem but we later find out that ansem is betrayed by xeanort meaning xeanort ticked tron into thinking he was the real ansem the wise hence why xenorts heartless calls himself ansem the wise. But I don’t think xeanort was the one who actually betrayed ansem, I think darkness was manipulating xenort, like how he manipulated Ventus, i also think this is what birthed xenorts heartless and nobody. And in a desperate attempt to stop what was happening to him and to the future is why he sent kiari out to do what ever it is she was supposed to do and as you guys all now know her task is now “not easy” said by old xenort him self which is crazy because he supposed to be the bad guy when I’m reality it’s like he’s just the hero who’s being used by darkness like a puppet.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THIS ALL TAKES PLACE IN HALLOW BASTION AKA RADIANT GARDEN.
One thing I do want to note is xenort made sora go into his anti form but it seem xenort cannot be affected by darkness because he takes no damge while sora is in the form. Which makes me question even more is it because xenort has a pure heart he can’t be affected by dark energy or darkness? Idk that’s just a theory a game theory 😂😂😂 ayoo send this shit to matpat man I need to be on an episode for the 1 time !!
I think it's Maybe someone from the Fabula Nova Crystalsis that ties it to the master of Masters is connected mainly
maybe joshua told yozora to save sora?
It could just be the same person that give Yozora his "trials". Maybe some bodiless voice that shows up when people are inside their station of awakening thus also in a sleeping state. After all cryptic bodiless voices that know to much and ask you to do really weird things are common place while a person is in a sleeping state. Though calling them "trials" does seem a little much maybe Yozora is overdramatic. Or maybe Reality 2 has a different tie to the Realm of sleep then Reality KH does which makes station of awakening dreams more difficult?
One of the problems that I have been having with understanding Reality 2 is the fact that Light and Darkness don't exist there but Dreams and Sleep are somehow connected. Dreams as a sub element of Darkness shouldn't exist in a world that doesn't have Darkness but that doesn't seem to be the case. So I have been thinking maybe Reality 2 is a world where Dreams are not the sub element but the main one. And there is also a sub element of Light that is the main element in Reality 2 most likely the element of Time. It's a very ruff idea and I am not sure that it really works, and if it does work I am not sure that I would be able to explain it any better then this rather confused mess.
Anyway back on the topic of who told Yozora to save Sora, if it isn't the voice that always tells people to do odd things when they are in a station of awakening then I don't really have a guess. MoM could work but only because no one really understands what he is doing and so we can give him any possible action and it could be true. I do agree that it is most likely someone in the dreaming(?) world as your thoughts made a lot of sense. However there are likely more people there that we haven't seen yet simply because it is so new that we have seen next to nothing about it. Either way great video you always have great thoughts.
I like your ideas about dreams being primary rather than a sub element. I do wonder what exactly is meant by the whole "not of light or darkness but somewhere on the other side" thing, but maybe we're taking it too literally idk. I've said before I'm sure light and darkness exist as concepts in their reality, and of course, it must exist in some sense otherwise I doubt *they* could even exist, but I just think it's not a place where entities of light and darkness run around, and people probably don't use it as magic like they do in KH reality. Thank you for your kind words anyway. You always leave interesting and thorough comments!
@@NextGenNovelist Thanks for the kind words. As I said this is a very new idea in my head and I need some time to decide if I like it. And if I do how I think it will truly work.