I’m in the USA I own a 08’ 900 scrambler now and I’m waiting for delivery on my 400x. At 67 years old, I want some thing a little bit smaller and lighter.
I got by Scrambler delivered yesterday evening. And today I just did a 212 km ride.. awesome.. what are rumble.. The exhaust note is just exhilarating. It's really punchy and load on those twisties.. ❤
Did you feel the heat from engine anytime in your trip. Is the weight of the Bike 185kgs did bother. Pls feed back. Thanks I am planning to take Scrambler.
"For shorter folks" I went to test ride the speed 400, but i ended up test riding both bikes. I felt the scrambler to be a better bike in terms of ride comfort. My only apprehension was that i am 5'6" but after riding the scrambler 400x, i was sold on the looks and ride quality. I took a chance and bought the scrambler 400x the same day. I did get the rear shock lowered which game me an additional 15mm lower height. Ive been riding it for the last 2 days and i love it. Can easily get one foot planted on the ground and that works for me.. So, if ur 5'5" or 5'6", give it a shot, its manageable. Hope my 2 pice advise can help someone who wants the scrambler 400x but isnt sure coz of height issues. Cheers 😉
@@sureshking89 depends how you ride.. i am a slightly throttle happy person, hence the low mileage. But I think max it should give about 27-28 in city and 30-35 on highway.
@@criticalhit31 Confused between Cb350rs and scrambler x. Can you help me in choosing one? ( Expected mileage above 25,pillion comfort and my height is 5’7)
Hi. I recently did a back-to-back test drive of both the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400X. I do not have much biking experience and it's been strictly city-based. I am someone who loves driving fast but sensibly and responsibly. I also took a test drive of the RC 200 and while it was a committed riding position I still loved it. But I'm worried about the high-revving nature and I'm not sure if KTM would allow me to ride at low RPMs. Coming back to the Triumphs, I felt the Speed didn't look as small as in pics and videos. It does have an imposing stance while parked. It also felt more natural while riding. The Scrambler, on the other hand, felt slightly unnatural and it felt like sitting on a camel vs a horse. I was interested in the Himalayan but after the Scrambler ride, I'm not sure if I would enjoy the ADVs as much. (I'm 5'11" so height is not the problem here 😅) But what worried me was the heat dissipation from the engine. My legs could feel the heat despite wearing full legged jeans. Is this normal for all 400cc single cylinders? (Btw if you've reached here, thank you for your patience 😂)
Yep, it's normal for the bigger engines to heat, and i presume that the test ride was in city so it would be heating even more. Don't worry you'll feel that only when you are at stand still.
Yes I too felt i am sitting on a camel . By the way I am 6.2 height . The handle bar was high . I felt in city driving is not going to be easy with this bike . Engine heat can be felt at foot . Engine reliability and spare parts availability is a big question
I put a deposit on the Speed 400 three days ago. Fairly new rider looking for something small and agile, mostly for commuting and twisty roads. I picked a Caspian blue, due for April delivery.
Love the look of the scrambler. I’m in the USA so I haven’t seen one in person yet. I have a bmw g310gs that I bought this summer and am debating trading it in for the scrambler. Maybe not though because the 310gs has been really good so far. But I like the look of the scrambler better. Decision to make. Very informative video. Thanks!
I own speed 400...i agreed to everything but heating issue. There is no heating issue as such if you are on open roads.... No congestion etc... But if you are stuck in City traffic... These engines do heat up... If you are wearing full length lowers and shoes you can get away with them with little to no discomfort.... But if you ride in shorts and slippers.... Your legs are gonna get grilled.....i have done both long and short trips on this bike... Till now covered 2200km plus
@@ManjeetKumar-qm1gr Those who complaining about heating issues could go for a scotty. Speed 400 is very good bike. Only height could have a little less like 765-770 mm.
I've already decided to go for the Speed 400, as I'll use it mostly in the city and might only take it for long rides once in a year (maybe do Umling La). Put on Ceramic Pro coating full body Triumph quilted seat, handlebar riser, and tail rack, Squadron pro aux lights, lower engine guard, BOBO B16M, Dominar mirrors, Kobra or Storm hand guards with weight and if possible run the footsteps of Scrambler 400X ( sensitive back, so I like neutral upright posture). Not specifically looking for a fast bike but a bike with good low end torque. The exhaust on the speed is more pannier friendly, I'd save the 40K (on road price) and spend it on accessories and riding gear mentioned above. I can't get my head over the LS2 thunder carbon fiber helmet, it's roughly 35K but has everything I want - light weight, wide view visor pinlock 120, less buttons to open/close vents. Open for any suggestions here.
Let me know if you complete this setup, I'm looking for same setup but i was not sure about which knucle guards should i get. Thanks for the reference.
@@tejastarawade1030 practically speaking the BBs make more sense, as they are easier to find in India and I think slightly cheaper as well. And if u happen to break the plastic, you can always try other designs like VPS, VPS w/ extensions. For winters they also have full covering till the grips called blizzard.
Great comparison, thanks for going so in depth. I went with the Scrambler as well and have no regrets. It works fine on the streets of Berlin as well as the fields and forrests of Brandenburg. Definetely more "lazy" as you described it, but oh so comfortable.
Just test drive both. If you want an adventure tourer bike there are a lot of other options out there ,but for speed 400 there is no bike that can give what speed 400 can offer ,
Good review and very informative. I would pick the Scrambler for comfort, looks and carrying a pillion rider, but only being 170cm tall not sure until I get the chance to sit on one
2 bikes ka Kitna badiya or detail mai review Maine aaj tak nahi dekha.sabhi point cover kare hai aapne.lot of thnx.clear ho gaya aaj ki Maine scrambler 400x hi leni hai.1 hi kami thi is review mai ki ye hindi mai nahi Tha.kya city ride mai scrambler mai frequently gear change to nahi karne padte hai.plz reply asap
At this price those who complaining about vibration and heating issues could opt for a scotty. Speed 400 is very good bike. Only height could have a little less be better like 765-770 mm or even be an option.
Hello bikewale... Need to choose btw. HIMALAYAN 450 AND SCRAMBLER 400X... Height is 6 feet and weight is 100 kg... Usage is 80 percent city and highways and 20 percent off roading.. Mostly traveled with pillion
The Himalayan seems to be a great bike but it won't destroy the 400X. These are two different bikes that cater to different riders. Scramblers and adventure bikes can and do exist within the same segment.
Just saw the Himalayan in the showroom with all the lighting. Still not impressed. Also side stand is an issue. It’s too much tilted and considering people will get those briefcases mounted on the bike, it would become quite difficult tilt the bike unless you’re a gym buff or strongly built person. I am talking about regular folks, not motorcycle experts
Good and detailed review of both bikes. Hope durability and longevity of the bikes are very good on long run with no failures. Above 5 years and more than 300K kms. Humble question. Try to find out what Yamaha is doing in the Indian motorcycle scene with no new motorcycles and not even bringing their international models. Is Indian market still very immature for bigger and better bikes or is it due to the extraordinary taxes and high fuel price which is stopping all major manufacturers to fully be involved in Indian market. Expecting some sort of answers.
Most of my driving will be in Thailand in the city with occasional longer trips through the mountains. Some of my considerations are being able to lane split and my height (6'1" tall). I like both bikes but I'm wondering of the scramblers handlebars might be a bit wide to fit between lanes of traffic etc. Also, will the Speed 400 be too small for me?
Loved ur review sir 🫡👏 very well put up and comprehensive ofcos… keep making such good content 👍 I own a cb300r (march 2022 model) and done 13k kms.. i plan to sell it off mainly cuz of its small tank capacity and also i m finding it a little too light lately 😅 im nt a huge person.. howver, i found d speed400 js apt and a bit confused between 390 duke and speed400 (performance is my priority).. i ws truly amazed by how refined they made d triumph and also d sheer class dt it exudes especially whn u see it in person, and considering the fact dt it is merely 2.33 lacs! Fantastic VFM 🙌🏻✌️ wt i dnt like in d 390 duke are the vibrations and d not-so good engine noise (especially at idle and lower revs).. would love to see a comparo between the 2 frm ur side sir
Kindly advise. I would like to upgrade my Honda highness CB350 to triumph 400 scramble. I want to know how the refinement is. I tried the HIMALAYA 450 but the vibrations are there. I am 56 years and 6 feet tall so weight is not an issue. I never ever do offloading because of my age but I do 3 to 400 km Highway riding once a weak.
Can someone tell me if I should get the speed or the scrambler or something like the re hunter. I am a first time rider I am 19 and I am planning on buying one of these this year I am 6feet tall so please recommend something that will fit me the best. I am really confused I don’t understand a lot about bikes. Please help me
I finished my 570+ km ride yesterday from Banglore to Kerala. This bike is planted and comfortable even with a pillion on at high speeds. You will feel numbness on your ass if you're the pillion,still better than other bikes. You don't need to shift often or plan your shifts to hit 130-140 kmph, what a beast.
@@abykuruvilla i am planning to purchase triumph but confused between speed 400 vs scram 400 so can you please suggest which bike should i purchase! And my height is 5ft9inch
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Which Triumph 400 will you buy, the #Scrambler400X or the #Speed400? Do let us know your thoughts in the comments section below.
Booked scrambler 😊
Is there any chance that we can expect triumph to add a lower height seat for scrambler 400 as an accessory just as it did for tiger???
Good explanation and articulation 👍
Thank you for the great review. The best I saw so far.
If you already have a Jupiter/Access for local commute and at least of 5.9 height, go for scrambler.
I’m in the USA I own a 08’ 900 scrambler now and I’m waiting for delivery on my 400x. At 67 years old, I want some thing a little bit smaller and lighter.
I got by Scrambler delivered yesterday evening. And today I just did a 212 km ride.. awesome.. what are rumble.. The exhaust note is just exhilarating. It's really punchy and load on those twisties.. ❤
Did you feel the heat from engine anytime in your trip.
Is the weight of the Bike 185kgs did bother. Pls feed back. Thanks
I am planning to take Scrambler.
Who tf tours a bike in its break in period
How's the handling?
Please update us about fuel efficiency
"For shorter folks"
I went to test ride the speed 400, but i ended up test riding both bikes.
I felt the scrambler to be a better bike in terms of ride comfort.
My only apprehension was that i am 5'6" but after riding the scrambler 400x, i was sold on the looks and ride quality. I took a chance and bought the scrambler 400x the same day.
I did get the rear shock lowered which game me an additional 15mm lower height.
Ive been riding it for the last 2 days and i love it.
Can easily get one foot planted on the ground and that works for me..
So, if ur 5'5" or 5'6", give it a shot, its manageable.
Hope my 2 pice advise can help someone who wants the scrambler 400x but isnt sure coz of height issues.
Cheers 😉
Thank you. I am 5.7. It helped me. How is the mileage in city
@@sureshking89 it's decent, right now it's in running in, so approx 20 kmpl, but I guess after 1st service shud give 24-25.
@@criticalhit31 that’s too low. Was expecting around 28-30 in city.
@@sureshking89 depends how you ride.. i am a slightly throttle happy person, hence the low mileage. But I think max it should give about 27-28 in city and 30-35 on highway.
@@criticalhit31 Confused between Cb350rs and scrambler x. Can you help me in choosing one? ( Expected mileage above 25,pillion comfort and my height is 5’7)
Hi. I recently did a back-to-back test drive of both the Speed 400 and Scrambler 400X. I do not have much biking experience and it's been strictly city-based. I am someone who loves driving fast but sensibly and responsibly. I also took a test drive of the RC 200 and while it was a committed riding position I still loved it. But I'm worried about the high-revving nature and I'm not sure if KTM would allow me to ride at low RPMs.
Coming back to the Triumphs, I felt the Speed didn't look as small as in pics and videos. It does have an imposing stance while parked. It also felt more natural while riding. The Scrambler, on the other hand, felt slightly unnatural and it felt like sitting on a camel vs a horse. I was interested in the Himalayan but after the Scrambler ride, I'm not sure if I would enjoy the ADVs as much. (I'm 5'11" so height is not the problem here 😅)
But what worried me was the heat dissipation from the engine. My legs could feel the heat despite wearing full legged jeans. Is this normal for all 400cc single cylinders?
(Btw if you've reached here, thank you for your patience 😂)
Yep, it's normal for the bigger engines to heat, and i presume that the test ride was in city so it would be heating even more. Don't worry you'll feel that only when you are at stand still.
Yes I too felt i am sitting on a camel . By the way I am 6.2 height . The handle bar was high . I felt in city driving is not going to be easy with this bike . Engine heat can be felt at foot . Engine reliability and spare parts availability is a big question
@@bhanuprakash7440as a new bike rider (6’ tall), would you recommend scrambler or speed?
I picked the Speed 400 & I love my bike.. ❤
Okay 👍🏼
@@BikeWaleOfficialcoldest reply ever 😂
@@amit2221993lmao
The worst she can say is No.
I put a deposit on the Speed 400 three days ago. Fairly new rider looking for something small and agile, mostly for commuting and twisty roads. I picked a Caspian blue, due for April delivery.
did you get your bike? how is the experience?
Love the look of the scrambler. I’m in the USA so I haven’t seen one in person yet. I have a bmw g310gs that I bought this summer and am debating trading it in for the scrambler. Maybe not though because the 310gs has been really good so far. But I like the look of the scrambler better. Decision to make. Very informative video. Thanks!
Beautiful comparison. Very informative and showed aspect that were not covered in other reviews. Great review sir.
I own speed 400...i agreed to everything but heating issue. There is no heating issue as such if you are on open roads.... No congestion etc... But if you are stuck in City traffic... These engines do heat up... If you are wearing full length lowers and shoes you can get away with them with little to no discomfort.... But if you ride in shorts and slippers.... Your legs are gonna get grilled.....i have done both long and short trips on this bike... Till now covered 2200km plus
Did you feel any difference in the heating issue post first service?
@@ManjeetKumar-qm1gr i don't think so.... The heating only comes up if you are stuck in traffic... Moving very slow and stopping frequently
@@ManjeetKumar-qm1gr Those who complaining about heating issues could go for a scotty. Speed 400 is very good bike. Only height could have a little less like 765-770 mm.
I've already decided to go for the Speed 400, as I'll use it mostly in the city and might only take it for long rides once in a year (maybe do Umling La). Put on Ceramic Pro coating full body Triumph quilted seat, handlebar riser, and tail rack, Squadron pro aux lights, lower engine guard, BOBO B16M, Dominar mirrors, Kobra or Storm hand guards with weight and if possible run the footsteps of Scrambler 400X ( sensitive back, so I like neutral upright posture). Not specifically looking for a fast bike but a bike with good low end torque.
The exhaust on the speed is more pannier friendly, I'd save the 40K (on road price) and spend it on accessories and riding gear mentioned above.
I can't get my head over the LS2 thunder carbon fiber helmet, it's roughly 35K but has everything I want - light weight, wide view visor pinlock 120, less buttons to open/close vents. Open for any suggestions here.
Let me know if you complete this setup, I'm looking for same setup but i was not sure about which knucle guards should i get. Thanks for the reference.
@@tejastarawade1030 practically speaking the BBs make more sense, as they are easier to find in India and I think slightly cheaper as well. And if u happen to break the plastic, you can always try other designs like VPS, VPS w/ extensions. For winters they also have full covering till the grips called blizzard.
I'm thinking about engine guards. Are they factory or dealer installed?
@@ancientsquidster the lower engine guard is an official Triumph accessory
did you get the coating done from the showroom itself?
Great comparison, thanks for going so in depth. I went with the Scrambler as well and have no regrets. It works fine on the streets of Berlin as well as the fields and forrests of Brandenburg. Definetely more "lazy" as you described it, but oh so comfortable.
I picked Speed. Done 5k kms already. Amazing bike
This comparison was extremely helpful and I look forward to my Scrambler arriving in the states. Thank you for the details.
Just test drive both. If you want an adventure tourer bike there are a lot of other options out there ,but for speed 400 there is no bike that can give what speed 400 can offer ,
Good review and very informative. I would pick the Scrambler for comfort, looks and carrying a pillion rider, but only being 170cm tall not sure until I get the chance to sit on one
2 bikes ka Kitna badiya or detail mai review Maine aaj tak nahi dekha.sabhi point cover kare hai aapne.lot of thnx.clear ho gaya aaj ki Maine scrambler 400x hi leni hai.1 hi kami thi is review mai ki ye hindi mai nahi Tha.kya city ride mai scrambler mai frequently gear change to nahi karne padte hai.plz reply asap
Booked Scrambler 😊, it has more character compared to Speed. Waiting for the delivery
At this price those who complaining about vibration and heating issues could opt for a scotty. Speed 400 is very good bike. Only height could have a little less be better like 765-770 mm or even be an option.
Hello bikewale...
Need to choose btw. HIMALAYAN 450 AND SCRAMBLER 400X... Height is 6 feet and weight is 100 kg... Usage is 80 percent city and highways and 20 percent off roading.. Mostly traveled with pillion
Mostly travel with pillion, Himalayan hands down
an excellent review; you have convinced me I need the 400 x!
Great review! Answered all my doubts!
Excellent narration and awesome tech info. Thanks a ton 🙏
How about the touring seats of speed 400
Thanks for the detailed review loved it 👍
An excellent review, in my opinion, the best actually. Many thanks.
Great review with beautiful technical details. Thanks 😊
Do a comparison on new Himalayan and scrambler X .
My personal opinion is that Himalayan would kill scrambler X entire existence
Bro forgets himalayan is from RE not Bajaj 😂
Sure, we’ll do a comparison soon!
The Himalayan seems to be a great bike but it won't destroy the 400X. These are two different bikes that cater to different riders. Scramblers and adventure bikes can and do exist within the same segment.
Just saw the Himalayan in the showroom with all the lighting. Still not impressed. Also side stand is an issue. It’s too much tilted and considering people will get those briefcases mounted on the bike, it would become quite difficult tilt the bike unless you’re a gym buff or strongly built person. I am talking about regular folks, not motorcycle experts
The review I was waiting for ❤
Good and detailed review of both bikes. Hope durability and longevity of the bikes are very good on long run with no failures. Above 5 years and more than 300K kms.
Humble question. Try to find out what Yamaha is doing in the Indian motorcycle scene with no new motorcycles and not even bringing their international models. Is Indian market still very immature for bigger and better bikes or is it due to the extraordinary taxes and high fuel price which is stopping all major manufacturers to fully be involved in Indian market.
Expecting some sort of answers.
Liking the look of the scrambler
Most of my driving will be in Thailand in the city with occasional longer trips through the mountains. Some of my considerations are being able to lane split and my height (6'1" tall). I like both bikes but I'm wondering of the scramblers handlebars might be a bit wide to fit between lanes of traffic etc. Also, will the Speed 400 be too small for me?
very well done comparison.
Loved ur review sir 🫡👏 very well put up and comprehensive ofcos… keep making such good content 👍
I own a cb300r (march 2022 model) and done 13k kms.. i plan to sell it off mainly cuz of its small tank capacity and also i m finding it a little too light lately 😅 im nt a huge person.. howver, i found d speed400 js apt and a bit confused between 390 duke and speed400 (performance is my priority).. i ws truly amazed by how refined they made d triumph and also d sheer class dt it exudes especially whn u see it in person, and considering the fact dt it is merely 2.33 lacs! Fantastic VFM 🙌🏻✌️ wt i dnt like in d 390 duke are the vibrations and d not-so good engine noise (especially at idle and lower revs).. would love to see a comparo between the 2 frm ur side sir
Correction @3:22 lower top speed
Outstanding review 👏👏👏
Very good information wrt technicality and to the point views, Great job
Kindly advise. I would like to upgrade my Honda highness CB350 to triumph 400 scramble. I want to know how the refinement is. I tried the HIMALAYA 450 but the vibrations are there. I am 56 years and 6 feet tall so weight is not an issue. I never ever do offloading because of my age but I do 3 to 400 km Highway riding once a weak.
if you like Honda engines, rest assured you won't like any other engine in this budget....
Great review, thanks
Can someone tell me if I should get the speed or the scrambler or something like the re hunter. I am a first time rider I am 19 and I am planning on buying one of these this year I am 6feet tall so please recommend something that will fit me the best. I am really confused I don’t understand a lot about bikes. Please help me
Go take a test ride and decide for yourself. Reviews are good but it all depends on how you feel while riding.
I choose himmy 450. Only sacrifice is TC but the basic TC will cause more problems than good I in triumphs
RE Guerilla or Triumph scrambler for high speed stability? How much it is different
Nice Video. It will be great if you do a full fledged comparison review of 390x, 400x and New Himalayan. Price and Power wise almost similar
A need of the hour for buyers looking for a touring n adventure 400 cc category.
I will choose himalayan over scrambler ,or even 390 adventure ,but speed 400 is different
Can we change the handle bar on speed with that from scrambler
Excellent review sir
male, 183cm tall - which of these is better for commuting in high traffic city? thanks!
Can I change my speed 400 handlebar with scrambler 400x bar?
Would it be hard for someone with relatively less experience in riding to start off with a 400 cc bike like this?
It needs adjustable suspension and big display and better look (bold) in rear side
Vikrant ji, you are the best ❤
Both bikes tractability is next level
Very informative
I heard that there are vibrations after a certain speed, could you let me know know when does it start on both bikes and is it bad or manageable?
You will get it above 90kmph but it’s not disturbing.. you can easily cruise between 110-120 kmph whole day..
@@souravpal735 That's right.
What is traction control?
Need a comparison of scrambler 400X and Himalayan 450
What would you recommend?? Himalayan 450 or scrambler 400x
Kindly share your inseam length here to give a better perspective of seat height
Hi Vikrant, waiting for your long ride review of RE450
I finished my 570+ km ride yesterday from Banglore to Kerala. This bike is planted and comfortable even with a pillion on at high speeds. You will feel numbness on your ass if you're the pillion,still better than other bikes. You don't need to shift often or plan your shifts to hit 130-140 kmph, what a beast.
Dude, it’s worth mentioning which among those Speed or Scrambler.
@@2689742 scrambler
Which bike ?
Scrambler 400x
@@abykuruvilla i am planning to purchase triumph but confused between speed 400 vs scram 400 so can you please suggest which bike should i purchase! And my height is 5ft9inch
Scrambler vs Himalayan for daily commuting?
Can someone tell me the ground clearance of both bikes?????
Waiting for detailed Ronin vs xpulse 200T touring one
Ok
@bikewale The helmet worn by the scrambler bike guy was looking very nice, Please help me with the buy link it will be very helpful
triumph vs meteor pls suggest..
I don't see the bike being sold in America.. only Brits and Indians talking about it.. so I'm out.
They begin selling them next week in the US. Dealers already have allocations (at least on the Speed which is what I wanted).
Ns200 vs n250 ...waiting for only you sir
Scrambler but I am confused with CB 350 RS
cb 350 rs only for engine, you won't get a riding feel.....
Thanks
That typical "mumbai " roads was on point 😂😂
ppl already taking himalayn over these, wonder what will happen if hunter450 is launched at 2.3-2.5😅😅
Iam 5.4 inches
Can I buy a scrambler
Yes go for it .... U will get used to height of bike
Watch at 1.75x
They say Chakan as if whole india knows it 😅
more like Scrambler review
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None
Okay 👍🏼