G STOVE Setup & Review - Our First Night with the G Stove (-10C)
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G STOVE Setup, Use & Review - Our First Overnight with the G Stove (-10)
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The stove body uses 3mm thick stainless steel (according to Gstove in Norway). The pipes are about half that maybe little less. The pipe getting red won’t hurt anything, just don’t keep anything near it that will combust easily is all. That is normal especially with smaller diameter pipes too. I’ve ran both my Gstoves with red (almost pink) pipes for a long time without any issues. It's okay stainless steel doesn't melt until approximately 1500 Celsius. It shouldn't warp either unless you dump cold water on it that hot. LOL
If you really dampen the stove down tight for a long time be careful when you open the dampers up. It’s eat to open the top one first then the one on the front door. If you feed fresh air too quickly to a starved fire you raise the chances of having a sudden flare up in your firebox when the fresh oxygen hits it too quickly.
Toasting Bread: A little trick I learned that worked for me for toast was to place a small wired grate on top of the cooking surface on top of the stove. Place your bread on that grate and it should brown nicely. Just make sure you use gloves to remove the grate afterwards. Lol
Lol! This is all fantastic info--thanks so much Jeffrey!
Been waitin on this!! Love this vids BAO
Thanks McTowelie!!
Good objective review guys. Luv ya, stay safe!
Thanks for the review of the Gstove. I originally considered it when I bought my Kni-Co. One of the nice features of the Gstove is that it's constructed of stainless steel, so less issue with corrosion compared to many other stoves.
Heating in cold conditions with an undersized stove can be a bit of a roller coaster ride.
Thanks Dave, always pros and cons to every piece of gear isn't there...but if we can keep it at 0C when it's -30C outside, I could live with that :)
Love your adventures and reviews. Very informative. If I can get my husband into winter camping after we get our skidoo definitely would get G Stove! :) Thank you
Thanks Barb! The skidoo opens up so many options in winter. It's the only gas-powered toy we're really tempted by
Regardless of how the stove works out in the long run we are looking forward to your winter camping trips. Nice work as always guys.
Much appreciated Keenan! :)
Same deal with the gstove. I tried it in a 5m bell at -35 and the most we could get it is 1 degree C in the tent. We switched to a 4m and supplement with propane heaters when needed. Also added the additional stand and linger legs. Higher camp cots also helped us to get us off the cold ground.
Yeah it's definitely underpowered unless the tent is tiny...sigh. But yeah really wish we had got the leg extensions but it'll cost almost as much to ship them here as it would for the legs now
Looks cozy!
Hi Guys: Good review, You've pointed out a lot to consider. Initially , it looks like a great stove. Thanks, Brian 80
same model i am using in China. Good quality. the new version uses a pellet feeder, which can last you for the whole night.Perfect.
Cool looking stove!
Nice job guys 👍
Hey Jon this may help, I was taught to get a good bunch of coals going then pack the stove full of split wood ( even spruce or pine worked) get it rolling then close the stove damper and the pipe damper just shy of totally closed. This would keep the fire on a simmer so to say, give it a try. Take care, Happy Christmas to you both!
Appreciate that Donald!! We'll have to try that very soon. Merry Christmas!!
This stove is a gem. It's a learning experience. Just try out a lot of shit... All kinds of loads and damper settings with all kinds of wood. Use the crate only for quick 'n hot firings with small wood pieces. For long burns, no crate and stuffed with round dry (hardwood) pieces. Experiment to find the best damper settings.
Thank you so much!
I bought a barrel stove from cabellos and it works great I have a 10x10 alaknak tent and so far this year I can get 2hrs between stocking the stove and only putting 2 big pieces in and have lot's more room to add wood
Solid!
I guess the question is, what is a realistic expectation from a little camping stove like that? If it is -30C outside and it 0C in the tent to me it sounds like it is worth it. Thanks for sharing you adventure.
Great point OFS, totally agree. We can happily sleep with our sleep systems at 0, and it feels balmy when it's that cold outside!
A good thing to add to the stove is a heat generated fan to push the hot air around. It helps with any stove, not just this one. Another nice piece to add is the water cannister that can nest on the back and boil water for you
Thanks Amras! Just got one of those fans :) The water cannister is sweet but heavy and a bit expensive so we've opted for the aluminum kettle for now
Have you considered getting a stove fan for circulating the warm air around your tent? It makes a difference
I can second this recommendation as well. I never thought much of those fans until I tried a 5 blade model and it made a huge difference!
Thanks guys! Funny enough, Erin just got us one
Hi! Thanks for this great review! We are debating what stove to by for our 10x10 canvas tent to be used mostly in cold winters. Have you used the Gstove in -30 or colder yet in that tent? Can I ask what kind of stove you had before? if you were buying a stove now for that tent, which kind would you buy? Thanks!
Hey Nicole, we had the Great West Metal 12x12x24" stove before but it was junk. The Gstove was underpowered for our tent in the -20s or colder. Might do better with nice hardwood and an insulated tent, but if you're in a canvas tent in -30, I don't think it's the right stove. We since got the Kni-Co Alaskan which has been much better in the cold. I posted a follow-up video of our mistakes and learning curve with stoves if it helps:
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You could use a little dollar store baking rack to keep bread hovered close over the stove part so it can toast. 😊
Looks like a great stove! How often did you need to feed the fire and do you need to clean out the ashes each time?
Too often lol. Ashes not too often though, maybe once per night. Although we still haven't stayed up to feed the stove all night. We haven't used it beyond -13C or so and in those temps we'd rather just snuggle up in our sleeping bags than wake up every 40 minutes to stoke the fire
you can get legs for that stove as well to make it off the ground more .that are 12 ins more in hight you can get the legs off e bay .i have a winner nomad stove .they are good stoves too
My regular size Gstove HeatView does put out a good amount of heat for 5 hours with one full load of wood. Without the crate.
Hardwood fuel?
Im getting mine in a few weeks. I was wondering the same thing about the size and keeping warm in real cold weather. Thanks for the review.
Fingers crossed for you with all the delays G stove has had...
Its supposed to be here first week of January. But i bought it in july. Its been delayed 4 time now. They did ask if i want my money with a 100% money back. Hopefully it works out soon because Im so ready to camp out with it.
If they push you off again I would seriously consider getting your money back. I just suggested that someone else do this the other week. They used the money to buy a Winnerwell, which is similar in specs, and it came two days later. I really can't stand bad customer service and leading people on for so long...not coo
Ill will if not here then. Thanks for the advise.
Yes their factory and shipping services in Norway have been delayed and/or backed up because of COVID they told me.
Ain’t nothing but a g stove baby 🎵 🎶 🎵
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I know nothing about camping yet want to start. One question...I noticed snow on the ground inside the tent. Do you put a tarp over the snow or does it just melt and the ground is your flooring? A dumb question I know but I'm starting from scratch
Hey Pat, it's a good question. We don't use a floor or tarp because it'll get filthy and snowy, and then the snow will melt when you have the stove going. Snow works!
Would love one of these with the oven and water heater!
They're sweet! Just too much bulk and weight for us when hauling in. Wish we had gotten the extension legs to make it higher
Come to think of it the army here in Norway uses this stove in the winter here, very comparable conditions to Canada. Might be smaller tents tho...
That's cool! Another quality Nordic product :) Yeah you're absolutely right, it's underpowered for this tent
I have the stove pipe draft... atleast doubles the amount of time between filling the stove if not more on warmer nights.
Great to hear...exactly what I hoped by buying it. Combined with the damper on the door and the elbow in the pipe, I'm hoping we can make the wood last...we only used a fraction of what we cut here so that's a good sign
Yeah John it looks like a good stove I didn't look like it was made for a smaller tent and not that 11 by 11 looks awful cold over there I'm glad I'm the Desert Rat my old bones couldn't handle that cold or a 55 gallon drum fire stove LOL have fun enjoy
Hahah sure seems that way so far...but if it means it's 0C inside and -30C outside, I can live with that :)
That was nice. I have a winnerwell nomad large in a luxe twinpeak and I have some similar concerns about how finicky it is . I suspect the gstove is a bit superior, but I keep oscillating between too hot and too cold with my stove. In my case the low was 20F (-6c) and the interior of the tent peaked at 99F
Hahah wow that's HOT! Hoping we just need to go through the learning curve. I saw a winnerwell last winter and it looked excellent, similar in capabilities to the g stove I think.
Do you have an insulated tent?
Jeremy on LONEWOLF 902 uses compressed wood bricks...have you ever tried those? Nice wood stove All SS...cant be cheap!
Never have but I'm sure it would be an easy way to get it started...but prefer to source things on site when possible. Yeah the stainless was a big selling point....don't want to worry about rust. $731 CAD all-in with upgrades, taxes and shipping. Definitely on the higher end for a steel stove
We have the esker 10x10 tent and find the kni co is perfect for that size. Either the Packer or Alaskan jr would do. Definitely weighs more than that stove I’m sure but worth it for adequate heat imo. Never had an issue with it just run the pipe straight up, no spark arrester. I know what you mean about the nesting pipes can get stuck you just gotta be careful you put them back the correct way and you won’t have a problem. I believe esker makes the same kind of stove too as the kni co. Saw it on Canadian outdoor equipment website. I think with that size of tent you’d benefit from a larger stove
Yeah, the Esker stoves are made by Kni-Co. A nice feature of the new models is the steel log support holes on the legs. This was a feature Kni-Co originally did for the SnowTrekker stoves, and facilitates better (safer) log base for the stove in deep snow. I agree though, the nesting is sort of a pain.
I have the Esker 10x10 as well, but I am using the full-sized Alaskan stove. It can pump out a generous amount of heat. I sorta wish I'd gone with the Alaskan Jr.
The KniCos look terrific. Thought about them but they seemed similar to our last stove (though much better quality) and we wanted to try something different. The G Stove has such rave reviews though. Not sure any of them used them in extreme cold, but even if it brings us to 0C when it's -30C outside, I can live with that :)
@@LostLakes Yeah I am a little worried the KniCo might not stand the test of time corrosion-wise. I think it's time I pull it out and check things over before this season's trips.
Winnerwell was the other brand I looked at that has S.S. stoves. I might have avoided it due cost difference once currency is converted, shipping, etc. They do have a very interesting collapsible titanium stove. It is small and probably not very efficient. I guess it would be for a different type of trip where weight and packability are more important.
I wonder about the pointy legs on some of these stoves - whether they recommend putting some type of mat underneath to avoid sinking and "catastrophic pipe separation".
Anyway, nice stove you have. :)
68 degrees, what...the..."Its' Canada !" ....LOL
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I heard that soot accumulates the more narrow the chimney is, and in time and actually ignite, so wide is best. Any truth in that?
Not too sure about that but the primary causes of creosote are poor quality wood or burning temperature is too low
You might want to try it out in your backyard at minus 30-40. If it doesn't work you can just go back inside and watch the Leaf game. 🙂
Hahah if there was a game, I would be heading inside promptly at 7pm..missing it!
Ideal use for an insulated camper van looks easy to look into the backcountry but not sustainable
Have you used your stove in colder temps? I’m in Saskatchewan and am looking at getting a gstove, but if it’s not going to heat up a tent in -30 I may have to reconsider
Definitely go with a bigger stove
@@LostLakes good to know. Thanks for your input
I just realized this was from the same trip as the last video with the fishing.
Hahah yeah for longer gear-oriented segments, I've been posting them separately side some people are more/less interested in the gear side
Very nice summary. Thanks for posting. I'm considering the Gstove XL, and your presentation of it affirms it is perhaps the best alternate to my overly compact Pomoly collapsible, very light (~4 lb) titanium stove. I looked at your link on the camping gear you use. But it does not list who makes your tent. Who does? - Gstove?
Thanks Gregory! The Gstove is great for a smaller tent and moderate cold, but where we live we ultimately found it wasn't enough for those -20 or -30C nights. Our tent is an 11x11' Atuk Alaskan in 7oz canvas (sold by Atuk directly online)
@@LostLakes Thank you for the info.
Do they make a larger version? Looks awfully small but like you say well built!
No that is their largest model - Gstove Heatview XL. It’s measurements are:
Stove: 8.6” W x 19.68” L
Door opening: 6.10” H x 4.92” W
Did you get the pipe brush to clean your pipes with?
Naw we just use spruce boughs
What’s the burn time on the stove you’re comparing this one to?
Old stove was a 12x12x24" box from Great West Metal, so probably double the volume. But it was less efficient and a piece of junk that fell apart.
@@LostLakes it’s so cool to see your review on the G, I’ve had mine for about a year now. You’ve inspired me to get out more on the ice this year(safely that is!). I couldn’t tell much in your older videos, do you guys stay up to keep the fire going? I get way too lazy haha
@@Evan_Le5 hahah only if it's bitterly cold. At -10 here we let it go out
Can you guys put Fahrenheit equivalents for us less enlighted guys to the south ahah!! Thanks for sharing!
Hahah I usually do, must've forgotten here :)
sold
much better than heating your tent with a coleman lantern & stove :)
Hahah a bit safer too!
Hello.Your video is cool.Have you tested eyoyo underwater fishing camera?Are you satisfied with it?I am looking forward to seeing your pretty video .
Hey there, still hasn't arrived today 😔 So hopefully next week
How well do you think this would do in an insulated 12x16 cabin?
It'd be underpowered unless you have nice hardwood that burns hot, or a mild winter. It might do up to -15C but I suspect you'd be cool. Personally I'd go larger for a cabin since portability presumably isn't key
@@LostLakes thank you
Don't burn tamarack in there the whole stove will go red like the chimney did 😅.. too bad because that would keep you warm at -30!
Sure is a handsome stove. Maybe a 45° elbow would stop that pipe heat rise before it exits..
We got one with that very intention :)
I just emailed Gstove support and asked them about letting the pipe get red and whether or not it will damage it. I know that the XL sized stove body has a lifetime warranty on it but that doesn’t cover pipes.
The most I have found on the internet about overheating stainless steel is that it will make the stainless steel a little more susceptible to corrosion but that is about it.
Really appreciate the insight again J!!
@@LostLakes No worries. When I get a reply from GStove I will let you know. Can I hit you up on Facebook instead?
@@Jeffrey1978 for sure, Jonathan Ontario is my personal or message the BAO page... I'm just slower on those inboxes
Just sent you a message on the first one.
I like to season my stainless steel cook wear just like my cast iron. Ive found it also helps keep the corrosion at bay. I know it sounds crazy but I even season my stainless steel kettle. I use it daily so it takes some abuse and I feel the oils help the metal keep almost cleaner if that makes sense. It's like the oil (I use Camp Chef's seasoning - doesn't go rancid) forms some sort of a anti stick polymer layer or something scientific as it heats/cools that protects it. I'm thinking of doing it to my G stove when it arrives during initial burn in. Ive seen stainless steel boat rails and hardware corrode to nothing growing up on the cost of the Atlantic Ocean so I'm not one of those "it's stainless it will last forever" guys.
As far as toasting, I bet if you fold one of the racks on top you could use it as a grate to make the toast.
Genius!! Gotta try that. Love it
👍great content! Thank you!
also a funny trick i do is just put the toast on the side wall, it will stick there until they done after they fall and you will ear them in the pan, no over burning
Do not burn Cedar like you did in your old stove. Burning flakes will come out of it spark arrestor and settle on your 10th and burn a hole in it Sparks are like little lit parachutes and you wonder why fireflies are coming out in the winter time
Good call, thanks James :)
Would this heat a 6.2m wide bell tent?
Only in cool temps, not cold
@@LostLakes maybe I could just block off part of the interior of the tent, to make the heated area smaller and easier to heat
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Shoulda kept the old two holer, lol!
Lol at the very least I would've upgraded that POS to the Kni-Co
Remember that you were only burning softwood so temps may be higher with hardwood
Oh ya absolutely
First time or Fifth time? Seems like some flashbacks ;) I also see like a pooping fish (only joking) ;-)
Hahah just flashbacks from the first night :) The review was recorded the morning after the first night
Is Gstove still in business? as of March 2 2021?
I'd be shocked to hear otherwise
They are still in business but they seem to be having a hard time delivering the product. I ordered a Gstove (from gstove.com) in Nov 2019 and have still not received the order as of May 31, 2021. I inquired about the status in March 2021 and was told it would ship in two weeks. I again inquired about the status on May 28, 2021 and was told it would ship in two weeks. I strongly urge people to hold off on ordering from gstove until the clean up their delivery problems.
@@ronworden4511 definitely. They'll give your money back at least, but the communication is pathetic
Why was it getting glowing hot? is that bad?
Yeah it's not great for it to burn too hot...there's a sweet spot.
It's nowhere near the melting point of steel but I believe it can lead to warping and contribute to rust. However these pipes are stainless steel so it would take a lot to make them rust
Backcountry Angling Ontario thanks for reply. I was concerned cause when I load up too much wood in my G-stove it turns bright red, and I was concerned.
How come nobody uses ground sheets?????
In hot tents you mean? They're not necessary. Extra bulk and weight to pack in
How do I order the bellow again?
Hey Stephen, did I already send this on Insta? Just in case, BillyBellows.com :)
@@LostLakes awesome ty
If super cold burn birch wood it burns super hot
Problem is you almost have to cut it live and season it for a long time. By the time it has seasoned in the bush, it's already rotting. And it's illegal to cut green trees on Crown land without a permit so that's not an option either :(
@@LostLakes that's true I just remembered my great grandma had an old-school wood oven in her home and she only used birch because of its burn point...
Have to give the stove a 👎
Too small an opening and too long a firebox.
Great vid. Thanks
Agreed :)
Should keep you warm at -30, i'd trust it anyways.
not even close... bring the backup heating source and sleep system as mentioned in the video, the g-stove doesn't keep up with a large tent...
Might get us by...if it's 0C inside when it's -30C outside, I can live with that :)
It’s a cool stove but way too small 🤔 you need to hire someone to soak the fire all night long😣🙄plus you need to cut the wood to small pieces as well 🤨
You might be right! Might get us by though...if it's 0C inside when it's -30C outside, I can live with that :)
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Just an FYI - thermal readings aren't super accurate on metal with that kind of tech.
Interesting! I wonder why not. Unfortunately because this is stainless steel, a magnetic thermometer won't stick to it
@@LostLakes I'm not an expert but I think it is because metal is a reflective surface therefore "light" based thermal readings suffer a little. Not sure how much.
Not only that but they measure a wide area (the laser is misleading). So when you were measuring your pipe from two feet away, you were averaging it in with the wall on both sides.
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Gstove is bad company, They does not carry appontnent. I order April 2020. till not complent
Yeah it's a nice product but they have a huge delay and leave people waiting
if its that cold then why cant we see your breath when u talk? bogus video
🤦♂️ You do not always see your breath. It depends on relative humidity.
www.mentalfloss.com/article/611491/why-you-can-see-your-breath