I'm an American truck driver. I've driven I 80 more times than I'd like to admit. A small location that I think would be great to explore is a truck stop called Little America. A big 'ol travel stop just off of i 80. I can see a place like that full of broken down cars, trucks, & tractor trailers just ready to be blown up to kill the hoards of ferals infesting the place. There's a food court, bathrooms, hotels, big ol' parking lots. Tha'd be a blast.
How to make good fallout game: 1. Get a hoard of truck drivers and locals who know the area of the to-be game really well 2. Interview and get tons of location ideas like this 3. Add faction and world design like in the video 4. Use a real game engine 5. Do whatever else is involved in making a game 6. Make sure it's good 7. Make lots of money and get appreciated by fans There you go Todd get to work
For me I’d love to see Wendover and then winnemucca as vault city. I’m not sure if the location is quite right but that’s always been where I imagined it being.
The motto for the game should be “this was the place” which is close to Utah’s motto “this is the place” except the nukes dropped and Utah and everything else is a former shell of what it once was.
Try australia (a reply to a idoi @shelbyz1988 australia never had a small city raid in darwin no nuclear bombs were detonated also austalia has the highest skin cancer rates in the world )
Fallout: Mississippi. Not the state, the river. Any possible rebuilding of the country would, realistically be built around the river and the surrounding lands, just like it's founding. First Goal out of the vault, destroy the giant damn a horde of Rad-beavers have built at the head of the river.
@@HellishSpoon Could be a hell of a set piece fight, like the Behemoth fight in front of GNR. Then tame a few and use them as transportation for the first part of the game.
I think Caesar's death would be much like the death of Alexander the Great despite the established line of succession. Without his leadership there would inevitably be a fight for power. The true believers, the ambitious warlords and those who never truly bought into Caesar's Regime would be at each others' throats as they seek to take control of the Empire or declare autonomy. To me the perfect New Vegas sequel would include a situation akin to the Wars of the Diadochi, where a handful of the strongest factions establish territory and endlessly try to take control of the entirety of Caesar's broken empire.
@ObjectivelyInoffensiveUsername It’s so nice to see others have put as much thought into a Fallout Legion as me that I only have to add one thing and it’s perfectly understood by the next person. *High-five friend!*
There's a chance the legion Will Survive off his ideals alone just because Ulysses says then will fall apart doesn't mean they will he is just one man and he cannot tell the future
thats the whole point the legion is meant to be nation that last is meant colonize and spread its culture so that there is a common culture after the collapse
@@nicholaswarren7110 I'm not really basing it off what Ulysses said, although he and Marcus share a similar opinion. I'm basing it off what I know of history and human psychology. Even if pretty much all the Legion was populated by true believers in Caesar's ideology, within a few generations there would be internal conflict over who understands Caesar's message best and who has the right to rule. It's always what happens in autocratic successions, many wars have been fought over who gets to be the next King, even when the last one leaves clear instructions on who gets to be next. It's why the Ottoman Princes used to murder all their brothers when they inherented the throne, so none would challenge them. Caesar was a demagogue, his ruke was essentially a cult of personality built around his knowledge and his theatrical use of Roman themes. At it's core he teaches a fanatical, militaristic doctorine. War mongering fanatics are bound to come into conflict over a change in power, it's just what happens. Now add in the slavery, the repressive ideals, the brutality, and how young his Empire is and you're bound to have others that are just waiting for the opportunity to break off on their own or use the Legion to their own ends. He forcefully integrated a lot of tribes, not all of them are going to think the subjugation was for the better.
@@olgadotson2152 its not like they cant exist. You definitely dont see wild horses all over the place in the modern world, so I see no reason why they cant be in this.
@web I pretty sure the same thing was said for cats and chickens. Besides if things like zoo animals, dolphins, abd cows can survive I'm sure the same thing would be the case for horses.
Literally a free game concept. Complete with, factions, characters, locations, a map, character arcs, and lore. At that point all you need to do is design the game.
I want a much more flushed out melee system with grapples and a handful of ways to kill or maybe knock unconscious the enemy instantly by stabbing,punching,kicking them in the face. And you could give different forms of melee when fighting super mutants and deathclaws while in power armour.
Do you mind if I piggy-back of your comment and it's sucsess, to beg people to consider some non-leathal weapon options. Tranq darts, stun guns/lasers, knock out gas, concussion grenades ect, cattle prods, ect. Not loads, but a couple of options for each weapon type.
Great timing. I've recently been spending the majority of all of my downtime every day creating a Fallout setting based around the ruins of Kentucky in 2279, which has lead me into meticulously crafting lore around the Dixie Wasteland consisting of areas around Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Tennessee (it's crazy how much fluff you need to make to have an explanation of what's going on AROUND your game area and to compliment an interesting faction. And how much work and research it takes to make things fit nicely in an already established world.) It's been really fun and seeing things like this keeps me motivated to see it through. As a way to explain horses, (what I've taken to calling RadSteeds) that could actually fit in with my works as well. I have a faction that holds up in the ruins of Churchill Downs (now a fortress town called Twin Spires) called the Thoroughbred Society. They're a group of aristocrats (yes, of course they wear funny derby hats) whose ancestors were the big rich people behind the Kentucky Derby pre-war. With the paranoia behind the impending war, these people spent a considerable amount of their fortunes building a large personal bunker network with stables and tracks included in order to preserve their families trades of horse breeding and racing. Elitist nepotistic legacy seeking doesn't stop just because the world ends, after all, and these guys wanted their descendants to have the monopoly on horses when their bunker doors could be opened. Post-war, these people still host races for the wealthy to partake in as well as being responsible for spreading the trade of domesticated RadSteeds. Maybe the horses in the Great Plains came from here? At least in my head they are lol Sorry about the novel I've been very passionate about this little project of mine. Edit: Dang I had the Turkey idea too. In mine I called them Terrorbirds and they have the ability to use their gobbler to let out a deafening call to attract nearby Terrorbirds to help them.
It would be interesting to do something around the rocket research and development in North Alabama and what kind of technology they would have come up with by 2077.
@@TheAngryPickle33 Yeah I have looked into that, I'm pretty sure it's Huntsville? and I'm not exactly sure what to do with that concept given the faction that resides there. The only thing I can think is Enclave involvement somehow, considering their whole goal was to leave the planet originally. It won't be in my game's world space, but it would still be in good practice to work that out.
Ideas for that: A New Vegas type conflict over the Wilson Dam in Alabama A DLC where you can go to Cuba from New Orleans, drawing inspiration from Fallout Miami for Cuba Nashville’s Strip has become something of a Proto-New Vegas with Crime Families living in the famous building (Hockey Stadium, The Grand Ole Opry, Football Stadium) Factions Fighting for control of the main part of the Tennessee River A Johnny Cash-Inspired Biker Gang The NCR having a small presence in Western Louisiana from Texas, which they took over after the fall of Caesar’s Legion I can see this going somewhere.
@@samh3805 There was a historical conflict over Wilson Dam sometime between 2258 and 2278, during the Tennessee Valley War, where the Dixie Confederation marched north of the 22, along the 65, and annexed the lands around Wheeler Lake during their main campaign of struggling to push into the Tennessee Valley. Their main goal for beginning this war was because Moonshine was outlawed by the DC back in 2246, and the Tenn. Valley was the main route for the drink to be smuggled into Dixie controlled territories. However, They were heavily resisted and suffered great losses to the hands of the TVA (Tennessee Valley Alliance) who formed due to the DC's presence. This consists of factions in the valley, including the massive Seven Lakes Clan, who operate out of the City of Seven Lakes (Knoxville). The furthest they were ever to push in the Tenn. Valley was to Chattanooga, a city they barely hold on to now. The war was eventually called off by now President Redmond, who has been instead focusing his efforts on pushing north through the territories of the Nash (Nashville), which they managed to "take" though they really only have say over the settlements around the city (who is control of other factions, a Cash inspired gang will probably find it's way in there now). This campaign goal is to push into Kentucky (the Mesial Heartland) and take control of the newly operational coal fields, which has caused the Coal Rush of '79 (the main, "Hoover Dam" like struggle of the game.) Two parties of the DC have different ideas of what to do with the coal, one wanting to fix the DC's inflating Fiat currency by backing it with coal, the other wanting to exploit the resource to advance industry and make themselves wealthier. This also comes with the added goal of reaching the Shiners of Eastern KY to eliminate the source of the Moonshine coming to the Dixie, negating any need to push into the Tenn. Valley again. The actual world space only takes place in Kentucky, which Is known as the Mesial Heartland. And unfortunately this is for a Fallout PnP campaign, but if I had the knowledge, time and resources to make it into a Frontier-like mod, I would fucking LOVE to put in the time and work to make this happen. Were that ever happen outside of my dreams, there would certainly be DLC for the Nash, Seven Lakes, Cincinnati, and some other location I haven't thought of yet. Also, about your NCR idea, this game takes place in 2279 so the NCR hasn't even made direct contact with the Legion yet, they're not going to be anywhere near Louisiana (the Bayou) at this point. Not to mention that I kind of want to separate from all of the stuff going on in the West and show how the Dixie kind of developed separate from all of that.
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I would pitch in to crowdfund development of this game. A few thoughts though: 1. A creature companion named pumpkin (gotta carry on that tradition). 2. Radiated bigfoots in the northern mountains. Their eerie howls and whoops at night will be a terrifying rare encounter. 3. The New Canaanites should be a joinable faction, like the real-world religion. Playing a wastelander paladin of sorts would be fun.
There has actually been bigfoot sightings in Utah and one very close to where I live. Also another cool idea is to include creepy random encounters near the skinwalker ranch part of Utah.
Pseudo Nym Skinwalker ranch isn’t just known for Skinwalkers there has been numerous UFO sightings and anomalies in its area so much so it’s cut off from the general public by the government.
What if instead of a actual Bigfoot, it was just a group of super mutants that instead of loosing all their hair grew like alot of it everywhere... Just thought that would be hilarious
Yeah Bethesda would replace the khans with brotherhood of steel and come up with an excuse why super mutants are in this area too then instead of having unique tribal factions, just sprinkle generic raider enemies around the map.
Yes this video is fine and all, but the major difference is. Bethesda doesn't make games for fun like these guys, they make games for profit, money. If you dig in and begin to understand their corporate structure you'll find the top doesn't care about Fallout beyond its established brand. They really couldn't care less about content.
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Great idea, but I feel like the Hill Air Force Base would've been targeted a bit more than SLC. If not it'd definitely be a nice place for a faction to hold up at.
I just stumbled onto this particular series of yours. This is the sort of thing I've done on my own for the last 30-ish years of my life, mostly without an outlet. I had no idea that you were doing this! This is brilliant stuff, so detailed and solid. I look forward to participating in future livestreams. :) Thanks for all the great content!
One idea I actually thought would be cool would be if instead of having a raider gang in the satellite station it would be a small group of enclave remnants. I feel like maybe during your trip to Woodspoke the people there will talk of a strange creature that only comes out at night, describing it as dark with two orange glowing eyes. They say that many have pursued the creature but none have returned, but when you travel into the mountains the enclave instead choose to enlist your services. I thought perhaps like the Mojave Chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel, they'd also have power struggles, with one group remaining xenophobic and wanting to wipe out all mutants and the other just wanting to rebuild America. One thing I thought of was having the two groups being led by known enclave decendants, with the xenophobic group under the leadership of one of Dick Richardson's decendants and the other led by Augustus Autumn the third and his brother named something like James, (Provided the lone wanderer chose to let Colonel Autumn live.) And their reasoning for scouting the town is they want to acquire a pre-war cache filled with weapons and other rare pieces of technology the people of Woodspoke built their town on. The Richardson ending to this side plot would involve accusing major Autumn and his brother of being traitors to the United States for abandoning the enclaves original mission and kill everyone in the town and burn away their houses to get to the cache, later building a base on the ashes. Or you could side with the people of Woodspoke and destroy the enclave leaving their homes intact. Or you could side with Major Autumn and his brother chief scientist James, to convince the enclave to abandon purity and focus on rebuilding America, in which they take a diplomatic approach to Woodspoke giving military protection as well as using some of the tech from the cache to provide electricity and clean drinking water. Later in the game it would be possible for Richardson to join Thomas Praxton to use their weapons and advanced equipment to help destroy the Pariah League, the 80s, and later the Khans. Or if you side with the Autumn brothers you could again convince them to work with the pioneers, or you could convince them to ally with the Pariahs or the Hands of the Father, however the Khans and 80s will always be undisputed enemies as the enclave aren't fans of their raider like activity and the Khans dislike them because of the enclaves disregard for nature. I also thought it would be cool if there was an enclave companion you could take with you who's also conflicting with the two groups and you could convince him to either follow the enclaves original mission in which case he becomes hostile to the Pariah League or you can convince him otherwise and he'll become more excepting of mutants, but he'll still be a military man. And finally I thought it would be cool if many of the more xenophobic choices were only possible if you took a trait I like to call "True Human" where your uncorrupted human DNA makes you 20% more susceptible to diseases but you're much better with scientific skills.
@@JeroenDoes valid opinion. But I like them because they have a theme and they don't have to fail if you help them. I mean how the hell do win against the legion without the help of a godly messenger who was just shot in the face anyway? In the game they're proposing there is the possibility of them rising up and proving to be not so weak. Them or some other clan like them.
@@Frodo_Shaggins I do not dislike them because I think them weak but because the do not seem to learn from the past. They started as raiders, kidnapping people for randsom. Then they got their asses handed to them. They reformed but got killed of again. They now where in a siatuation where they were up against a much bigger power then themselves. Their reaction? Same as always raiding untill someone showed up and defeated them. Now they were near vegas where the followers took pity on them. How did they approuch the situation? They misused that trust and started making gems for money. I have no doudt that given the change the Khans would once again live life as a raider faction. (They only did not do thst in new vegas because they were too weak after their defeats). The khans symbolize stagnation, there is no future for them. I preffer the legion because they are heading somewhere (if ceasar lives). they plan to make vegas their home and build a reall state from there.
@@JeroenDoes I see your point. I bet if the courier helps them leave Nevada they probably start the cycle over again, just in another state that doesn't know them.
Are they talking about Caesar's Legion? Knowing Bethesda they're going to screw it up. To those who do not remember some of the dialogue, they mentioned about the conquest of the east of the Colorado River during the events Fallout New Vegas. And depending on the actions Caesar's Legion and the Battle of Hoover Dam, they would fail to try to capture New Vegas return back to the east and reform or capture New Vegas but it was a short-lived reign. I'm curious on what Caesar Legion looks like in the east of the Colorado
From knowledge, it’s said that there’s less raider activity as all are incorporated into the legion through traders with a advanced economic spending system and networks of supply lines from Two-Sun to Malpais
The idea of Mormons branding crosses in their skin doesn't track- Mormons use no cross iconography. An angel Moroni or his trumpet would fit better, or maybe the all seeing eye, a star representing kolob, etc
Teryn Shaw I’ve thought about that too. I wonder if fallout Mormons have different beliefs in some ways? Thinking so because we never really hear of them mention a prophet or the Mormon Church structure.
@@0Maloy1 there could also be some differences that happened after the divergence in our timelines. Maybe the mormon faith underwent a change involving their iconography.
Cpt. semi useful yeah, but catholic crusaders got tattoos and it wasn’t in theirs either. The soldier classes of great churches aren’t always fully educated in the ways of the religion, or they don’t follow the religion fully.
Well, the only reason Mormons tend not to use the cross is because of an aversion to catholic symbolism in the early 1900's. A couple hundred years after the Great War, there wouldn't really be any reason to not use the cross as there aren't any catholics/protestants to contrast against.
I think it would've been far more interesting if the Legion made a return under a Augustus like figure. Caesar seemed to follow the story of his historical counterpart, so I think it would have only made sense for him to have chosen an heir. Making the instability after Caesar's death similar to the conflicts between Octavius and Antony. Plus with all of the cut Legion content of NV it would be intriguing to see a more full picture of the faction.
ьотатo ьотато I had the same idea for my fallout: Colorado as the legion is camped out in southern Colorado (Colorado springs to Pueblo) as the Two sons would take control either t9 modernize their weaponry or use traditional methods as they try to open Cheyenne Mountain complex after the “failed attempts” to open it by the brotherhood. But yeah I totally agree dude
A more interesting idea is to make the Legion like the Western and Eastern empires (Byzantines), as this is implied to be what’ll happen if they win at the dam anyway. I had an idea recently, for the western Legion to be a backwater, poor, weak, “empire” in New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado, barely clinging to life and being constantly invaded, and immensely corrupt, just like the WRE. Meanwhile, the eastern legion finds its “Constantinople”, and learns from Caesar’s mistakes. It becomes more open to technology, and is less about a unified culture…. In a sense, like a continuation of the Byzantines. I even had an idea for them to have their own mutant version of the Varangian guard (I do know the Legion is anti-mutant, I just think that’s awesome), and they eventually find and conquer Memphis. This is a much more interesting idea and it’s more in line with that everyone says will happen it to the Legion.
The Fallout Frontier we wanted, and still need. Very beautifully crafted storyboarding, even if a mod for F4 I'd pay 29.99, hell more even to see this to fruition.
I would love to have a fallout game set in Alaska with remnants of the Chinese military duking it out with remnants of the U.S. Military that isn't loyal to the enclave. Both sides are willing to commit war crimes against the other in order to achieve victory.
With all due respect to Alaska's vistas and historical sites, I don't think that location alone would allow for a full-scale game... The idea does sound terrific, though. I'd love to see a Fallout version of Barrow. I imagine it would have a makeshift nuclear powerplant. Or maybe it would've been powered by a reactor of nuclear submarine that made it to the shore on the farthest outskirts of the settlement. The sub could be manned by ghouls. You can imagine the branching options for the power struggle quest that would inevitably take place.
This is great, first video of yours I watched but I love the idea completely. I'm especially a fan of the Khanate, the starting point, the Pariah Legion, and the companions.
The khans are my favorite faction. I’d love to see a big open post apocalyptic Wyoming national forest with a FireWatch meets apocalypse vibe. I hope vulpes will be a returning character that can either be a wandering traveler you can meet, a big quest giver, or even a follower. Also I hope someone would please sit tod Howard down and force him to watch this video in full. This game needs to happen. old weapon and tech design needs to return as apposed to the fallout 4/76 design. Skyrim’s style of home settlement and marriage should also return.
I'm an hour in, and this is one of my favorite video game related videos. I love when people are so engaged in a series that they explore what they'd like to see and experience in said serious. Heck, it's just fun.
Ah can’t forget the Mormons, they’ll definitely have to mention of Dixie at some interesting or failed settlement and maybe visit it in a DLC tons of mutated desert monsters and maybe an Large Mormon faction and some military ones also lots of cults, so many cults
I really like the idea of the 80s having a sort of Mad Max aesthetic, obsessed with the highways as a sort of cultural identity like how the raiders in Fury Road are obsessed with cars
Thats about all we have in cannon on them bethesda told us like two things about the 80s their radeors who wear a large 80 on them and they use moticycles
This is basically possible with all endings, except for Legate Lanius. If NCR, or House wins, then they will split up rather quickly. If, however, Caeser wins, then it'll just take more time. I always hated the independent ending. Since it is just a chaotic Mojave Wasteland. As said in the ending, everything turns into shit. Where raiders, even if the Courier kills them, reign supreme. It is basically the House ending, but a whole lot worse.
Companion Idea: The Brotherhood Exile. A former Brotherhood of Steel Paladin that was exiled from an unsaid chapter for crimes they do not want to talk about. Has a huge hate on for mutants and tribals, but has shown a willingness to work with those who have proven themselves as capable/honorable.
a really important location i want to see is fort caspar. it was a military post and river crossing in post civil war westward expansion. it would be home to a minuteman like faction of cavarly dressed up like the soldiers from the 1860s. there would be two special weapons: the spencer carbine and remington/colt army revolver. the spencer would be a more powerful slower firing version of the cowboy rifle from fallout new vegas. the remington/colt conversion would just be nice looking if done correctly. you can get like horse related perks or training, special horses, and new mechanics like horse drawn artillery
as some one who was born in new Canaan and grew up in Trainyard this video is amazing! the fact that you included things like the round house and pink floyd the flamingo are so awsome for the local community who understand the references. there are a few nitpicks like the fact that Mormons don't use the cross as a symbol, and south west Wyoming is probably too mountainous and hilly to be considered plains. overall an amazing video, truly awesome to see my home town be a major trading post in your fallout game. keep up the good work.
I also have an idea for a Fallout game. "Fallout 80" Following the remains of the largely destroyed Interstate 80, your character is part of the first major effort to reconnect the East and West coasts. (So, timeline would be about a century after the bombs fell). Bringing back the Karma mechanic, word of how you act gets ahead of you and can set the stage for the next area, and ultimately, the end of the game. You establish safe rest stops, and clear hazards as you make your way back to California. Yep, that's right, your character survived the initial nukes, and became a ghoul. (Your character was on business in New York, and was Ghoulified from the ones that hit the city). What awaits you in California is completely up to what your Karma is. The basic story is one of movement and rebuilding as you go. I know it is rough, but I think it could work.
As someone who lives in the Salt Lake Valley, your Southern cutoff point for the map would be dreadful if the edges of the map are handled the same way they usually handle them - the amount of industrial, urban, and metropolitan accumulation right where you cut the map off would mean players would wander into Salt Lake, and they'd have to see signs of more stuff to the South, and when they'd go looking, they would be cut off, probably somewhere in the middle of a lot of (traditionally) densely populated areas It's hard cutting off anywhere there is a city in Northern Utah because the way they build here, they just grow communities until they reach other communities. The entire Salt Lake Valley is pretty much continuous urban centers, broken up by the most disgusting of industrial zones and equally disgusting metropolitan city areas. It would be very difficult cutting off the map anywhere in that general area.
You gotta remember their future isn't our future, or present. What 2019 Salt Lake looks like to us isn't what it would look like in the Fallout Universe. I mean c'mon dude.
Love it! Absolutely a part of the Fallout world I’d love to see firsthand. My input: I’d like if the ending of New Vegas was left slightly more ambiguous. I know a lot of people like the Independent ending, but I’m a diehard “NCR Golden End” which I don’t think is fully incompatible with Independent if you do it right. It would just be a shame to see the NCR straight up defeated after F1 and F2’s worth of growth. Second is I think a fun quest would be an “For Auld Lang Sine” type mission but with Legion remnants. Pretty much exclusively if you want to turn the 80s or the Khanate MUCH more evil and sort of forebode that the Legion isn’t fully dead in some way, but no way to utilize the remnants if you’re going for a more peaceful route. I like the focus on tribal cultures. NV and Honest Hearts were great in that regard and this looks like a continuation of those themes.
I have been saying we need a Fallout game like this forever, I had no idea my favorite UA-cam channel practically made my dream Fallout game. Also if this game does get made I'm 100% gonna visit where I live near Ogden lmao.
No bullshit, I originally thought the Ideal Elder Scrolls VI Hammerfell was favorite video you guys ever did. I only watched your TES content since I'm always warey about watching Fallout opinion videos due to the fandom being so toxic. This right here is now my favorite video. This idea for a setting is so fucking thought out and amazing, I want to play it so badly. Maybe I'll try to run a Fallout set ttrpg campaign based on everything here. Idk, but it sure got me so excited I just had to buy that badass shirt you guys are selling. From the rabid fanboy in me, thanks Fudgemuppet.
Great video guys! After playing New Vegas last year I thought of how the developers of the fallout franchise could reboot it to its glory days before fallout 76 and make an awesome game again. And I must say, this is it. This is the perfect fallout game. The concept feels really fresh and exiting but at the same time really classic thanks to the great khans influencing this concept a lot and also much of Utah and Wyoming being influenced by old choices that the courier did in New Vegas. All the factions feel really fresh, cool and complex. I also love that the player isn’t forced into some kind of story like in fallout 4 but instead gets to choose their own story. Honestly great video. For me this would be the next perfect fallout game. It’s an awesome story that I would love to explore and I really don’t see how the developers of fallout could create a more interesting story and concept than this.
As someone from Salt Lake City this video was super interesting. Listening to you guys talk about the locations and imagining all these places I know ruined and iradiated sounds like a perfect fallout game. You guys did your research for sure. You are missing some good locations though that could be used to add even more to this. Like Duchesne Utah a town on the edge of starvation reservoir that would have dried up being in the desert.
I live about 30 minutes from Duchesne. I think there were be a lot of cool stuff around here--look at Vernal and all the dinosaur stuff. It as a post-apocalyptic setting would be cool.
I do have an idea for a DLC. The legion is shattered. During the battle of Hoover Dam, Caesar was killed by the Securitrons beneath Fortification Hill. Without their leader, the legion was shattered into two main forces: The Loyalists, and the Republicans. The Loyalists are those who stand by the Caesars beliefs and philosophies. They're lead by Lucius, who'd renamed himself Augustus. They're brutal slavers, and would be the more evil faction. The Republicans are the smaller, but better trained and better equipped side of the legion civil war. They're lead by a figure named The Consul, and are a more open society. They would have more advanced gear, and make use of mercenaries and female legionnaires. Main quest would be simple: choose a side, and beat the other. But, I could think of a number of smaller quests. For the Loyalists, things like slaving missions, raids, and making examples of towns and people. For the Republicans, these would be recruiting, hunting down Loyalist raiders, and protecting territory. Armor and weapons could be of a decent variety. Loyalists would have armor inspired by the Caesars New Regime mod, along with more tribal or older equipment like slings and hand-cranked gatling guns, along with the typical pistols, throwing spears, and machetes. Republicans would have armor made of Pre-war combat armor, a special "auxiliary" helmet based of the Montefortino, and wield more advanced weapons. I call it: FALLOUT: VENI, VIDI, VICI. What do you think?
@@semi-useful5178 I was planning on it being a new character; perhaps one of Caesars old officers or another Frumentarii. Vulpes is too loyal to Caesar to 'turn traitor', as it were. Plus, I'd imagine he'd also be dead. And in this case, Fudgemuppet said they were going with an independent Mojave. So, having the Courior being The Consul just makes no sense.
Imagine a super control vault. It is giant underground city that stretches miles underground with multiple entrances and was meant to house about 200,000. When the bombs dropped. Riots broke out at the entrances allowing more than double the vaults capacity in. The city developed a class pyramid. The original dwellers who paid to get in use the ones who broke in as slaves and cattle, but eventually there are uprisings that lead loads of different wars and conflicts. Even better, after an emergency shutdown, the doors jammed and would could no longer open from either side. With the right materials and a high backing skill. The player can gain entrance to the underground city. I see this as a far harbor sized DLC. The player decides what happens to the city. With one option being blowing it all to hell.
Y'all should just get a team together and make this into a mod. I would so donate to this idea. If the people at the frontier in New California can do it I'm sure you guys can
I’m guessing that around this timeline, Caesar’s Legion, without its leader, is recovering from a civil war and trying to reform itself due to internal and external pressures, mainly their stance on technology. Overall, I imagine it to be relatively the same in terms of culture, religion, and ideology.
Here's a spit take for interesting perk, an intimidation part based on strength instead of charisma where in melee combat with an opponent that has lower strength than you, you can manhandle them like literally forcing their arms down at their sides and staring right at them.
This is so well thought out that I want to play it, even if all the Fallout elements had to be stripped out. This is such a solidly put together post apocalypse scenario that I think it would still work without the Fallout influence. Perhaps someone should put the Wasteland team onto this creative effort. Excellent video Fudge, thank you for it!
Have any of you ever been to Echo? It’s literally a street. My grandfather grew up there and I spent a lot of time in there as a kid and teenager. I spent a lot of time fishing on the Weber River nearby. Anyway, it would make way more sense to use Coalville or Hennefer as a base because there would be more buildings and resources left from before. They are small, isolated towns, but they actually have more than a single gas station, a single ancient church, a single post office, and like 6 houses.
Bruh.. I would literally be willing to pay my hard earned cash to play this! It actually feels alive just hearing about it!just saying yall are doing an awesome job! True role playing game...
I love the idea of incorporating mutant horses and bison into the next Fallout game. I wonder if you'd have a weird, two-legged variety, as seen in something like "Wizards". Maybe cyborg horses would be a possibility, too? What about those gigantic mole rat pack animals shown in the Fallout 3 concept art? Or a regular mole rat companion? I also love your idea of dangerous mutant turkeys. Perhaps they would resemble prehistoric "terror birds"? I've thought Fallout needed something like that for a long time.
In one of the scenes at the end on New Vegas it mentions Raul leaving and changing his name like he had done many times before so if hatch had changed his name multiple times also so he could mabey be Raul
Looks like I’m stuck with the Khans (I live in Cheyenne). Grew up in northern Wyoming an hour outside of Yellowstone though - that would also be cool to see in a post-apocalyptic setting because there’s so much geothermal activity there anyways!
I recall a mod that was being made that would've taken place in Wyoming. It's no longer in production as the creator found it too daunting. I think it's called Fallout: Wyoming or Fallout: Rise of the Great Khanate.
There’s a mod for a game called Hearts of Iron IV, and it has a mod which adds the western half of North America. I’d take inspiration from their faction called “Heaven’s Gate” and have them fight with the Khans.
I'm an American truck driver. I've driven I 80 more times than I'd like to admit. A small location that I think would be great to explore is a truck stop called Little America. A big 'ol travel stop just off of i 80. I can see a place like that full of broken down cars, trucks, & tractor trailers just ready to be blown up to kill the hoards of ferals infesting the place. There's a food court, bathrooms, hotels, big ol' parking lots. Tha'd be a blast.
How to make good fallout game:
1. Get a hoard of truck drivers and locals who know the area of the to-be game really well
2. Interview and get tons of location ideas like this
3. Add faction and world design like in the video
4. Use a real game engine
5. Do whatever else is involved in making a game
6. Make sure it's good
7. Make lots of money and get appreciated by fans
There you go Todd get to work
Skeeter McBeater I'm in a hotel across the road from it as we speak haha, eastbound to TN highly agree!
For me I’d love to see Wendover and then winnemucca as vault city. I’m not sure if the location is quite right but that’s always been where I imagined it being.
And the first sign of Little America? The ice cream cone sign as you head east from SLC.
I love route 80.
I love the 80s using road signs as armor. Imagine the leader’s chest plate saying “Yield” across the chest. Really thematic.
Ben Holeman better be tons of empty sign posts in all areas they’re in.
A kinda iffy smaller leader could have MERGE and you can have an option to forge a less cruel offshoot with them
So, rank and file guards would have STOP chestplates? I like it.
@@AirSnipers96 Or it says "STOP"
I hope they have lots hair gel, mullets, and scoped handguns.
The motto for the game should be “this was the place” which is close to Utah’s motto “this is the place” except the nukes dropped and Utah and everything else is a former shell of what it once was.
I love that!
“This is the place where war changed.”
@@fumarc4501 "this was the place War changed, but men... men dont change..."
Finally some new Fallout motto.
I wish more Fallouts had their own uniques mottos
Living in Utah already feels like living in Fallout. +2 rads at all times.
What about California at the moment?.
If you're born in Utah you have 12+ rad resistance
Does it almost make you wish for nuclear winter
yo for real, you don't even have to smoke cigarettes to get lung cancer
Try australia (a reply to a idoi @shelbyz1988 australia never had a small city raid in darwin no nuclear bombs were detonated also austalia has the highest skin cancer rates in the world )
Fallout: Mississippi. Not the state, the river. Any possible rebuilding of the country would, realistically be built around the river and the surrounding lands, just like it's founding. First Goal out of the vault, destroy the giant damn a horde of Rad-beavers have built at the head of the river.
The battle of beaver dam
@@HellishSpoon Could be a hell of a set piece fight, like the Behemoth fight in front of GNR. Then tame a few and use them as transportation for the first part of the game.
Would be cool to have a very l o n g map that just follows the river, and a proto-Egyptian vibe
New Orleans should be the new Republic of Venice. A mercantile empire, connecting the trading netowors of the Mississippi valley to the Caribbean.
@@alfalafelstine1536might even be floating
I think Caesar's death would be much like the death of Alexander the Great despite the established line of succession. Without his leadership there would inevitably be a fight for power. The true believers, the ambitious warlords and those who never truly bought into Caesar's Regime would be at each others' throats as they seek to take control of the Empire or declare autonomy. To me the perfect New Vegas sequel would include a situation akin to the Wars of the Diadochi, where a handful of the strongest factions establish territory and endlessly try to take control of the entirety of Caesar's broken empire.
Don’t forget the inevitable slave revolt.
@ObjectivelyInoffensiveUsername It’s so nice to see others have put as much thought into a Fallout Legion as me that I only have to add one thing and it’s perfectly understood by the next person.
*High-five friend!*
There's a chance the legion Will Survive off his ideals alone just because Ulysses says then will fall apart doesn't mean they will he is just one man and he cannot tell the future
thats the whole point the legion is meant to be nation that last is meant colonize and spread its culture so that there is a common culture after the collapse
@@nicholaswarren7110 I'm not really basing it off what Ulysses said, although he and Marcus share a similar opinion. I'm basing it off what I know of history and human psychology. Even if pretty much all the Legion was populated by true believers in Caesar's ideology, within a few generations there would be internal conflict over who understands Caesar's message best and who has the right to rule. It's always what happens in autocratic successions, many wars have been fought over who gets to be the next King, even when the last one leaves clear instructions on who gets to be next. It's why the Ottoman Princes used to murder all their brothers when they inherented the throne, so none would challenge them.
Caesar was a demagogue, his ruke was essentially a cult of personality built around his knowledge and his theatrical use of Roman themes. At it's core he teaches a fanatical, militaristic doctorine. War mongering fanatics are bound to come into conflict over a change in power, it's just what happens.
Now add in the slavery, the repressive ideals, the brutality, and how young his Empire is and you're bound to have others that are just waiting for the opportunity to break off on their own or use the Legion to their own ends. He forcefully integrated a lot of tribes, not all of them are going to think the subjugation was for the better.
Can you imagine shooting a plasma rifle on horseback at a mutant bison? I mean come on Bethesda, this is a million times better than Fallout 76.
Horses are not canon, maybe motorcycles
@@olgadotson2152 its not like they cant exist. You definitely dont see wild horses all over the place in the modern world, so I see no reason why they cant be in this.
@web
I pretty sure the same thing was said for cats and chickens. Besides if things like zoo animals, dolphins, abd cows can survive I'm sure the same thing would be the case for horses.
@PhilosopherOnTheWeb another way to slove that problem is just say there clones
@PhilosopherOnTheWeb bruh why cant they just retcon the fact that horses are extinct
Fallout fans: conceptualizes a deep, immersive and thematically interesting Fallout game.
Bethesda: *nah.*
bethesda: BUY OUR NEW WEAPON SKINS
bethesda: wait...so you mean remake 1 and 2?
just watch
why make good games when i can appeal to 9 year old fornite players
Literally a free game concept. Complete with, factions, characters, locations, a map, character arcs, and lore. At that point all you need to do is design the game.
Bethesda: so you mean re release skyrim?
I feel like motorcycles should be given to generals or something, to mix the biker and Mongol elements.
The question is do you have a big iron on your hip?
No, it should be a different Marty Robbins song. I think Pride and the Badge would fit this well
@@Sinwukong 10 bucks says he doesnt know who that is, and only made the reference because he just binge watched some general sam streams.
They, in fact, do indeed have said big iron on their hip
Sounds like a reasonable assumption.
@@grilledleeks6514 I'm a die hard fallout fan
* civilization collapses *
Wyoming "that's slightly inconvenient"
@@peachyjam9440 it's not a joke,
Can confirm Cheyenne is already a wasteland
Tennessee hasn't noticed
Rock springs has little anyways, we're half way there
We need a cold weather Fallout, the Great Lakes wasteland with a ruined dilapidated Chicago would be nice.
I believe Chicago was completely destroyed.
Subnautical Explorer that’s what they said about Boston and that clearly wasn’t the case.
Anchorage, there's so much potential for factions, enemy creatures, and environments
im pretty sure Chicago is already a wasteland mate
Yes the great lakes are like mini oceans lol with a ton of ship wreaks and who knows what's liveing in those ships
I want a much more flushed out melee system with grapples and a handful of ways to kill or maybe knock unconscious the enemy instantly by stabbing,punching,kicking them in the face. And you could give different forms of melee when fighting super mutants and deathclaws while in power armour.
Do you mind if I piggy-back of your comment and it's sucsess, to beg people to consider some non-leathal weapon options.
Tranq darts, stun guns/lasers, knock out gas, concussion grenades ect, cattle prods, ect. Not loads, but a couple of options for each weapon type.
@@dd11111 hell yeah man. And we're going to win this piggyback race too!
@@adamxei9073 Teamwork, fuck yeah!
I’d want the Skyrim melee system tbh! I’d kill for it
@@8cladgamer210 No Skyrim system is it in depth enough for what I’m thinking of.
Great timing. I've recently been spending the majority of all of my downtime every day creating a Fallout setting based around the ruins of Kentucky in 2279, which has lead me into meticulously crafting lore around the Dixie Wasteland consisting of areas around Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia and Tennessee (it's crazy how much fluff you need to make to have an explanation of what's going on AROUND your game area and to compliment an interesting faction. And how much work and research it takes to make things fit nicely in an already established world.) It's been really fun and seeing things like this keeps me motivated to see it through.
As a way to explain horses, (what I've taken to calling RadSteeds) that could actually fit in with my works as well. I have a faction that holds up in the ruins of Churchill Downs (now a fortress town called Twin Spires) called the Thoroughbred Society. They're a group of aristocrats (yes, of course they wear funny derby hats) whose ancestors were the big rich people behind the Kentucky Derby pre-war. With the paranoia behind the impending war, these people spent a considerable amount of their fortunes building a large personal bunker network with stables and tracks included in order to preserve their families trades of horse breeding and racing. Elitist nepotistic legacy seeking doesn't stop just because the world ends, after all, and these guys wanted their descendants to have the monopoly on horses when their bunker doors could be opened. Post-war, these people still host races for the wealthy to partake in as well as being responsible for spreading the trade of domesticated RadSteeds. Maybe the horses in the Great Plains came from here? At least in my head they are lol
Sorry about the novel I've been very passionate about this little project of mine.
Edit: Dang I had the Turkey idea too. In mine I called them Terrorbirds and they have the ability to use their gobbler to let out a deafening call to attract nearby Terrorbirds to help them.
It would be interesting to do something around the rocket research and development in North Alabama and what kind of technology they would have come up with by 2077.
@@TheAngryPickle33 Yeah I have looked into that, I'm pretty sure it's Huntsville? and I'm not exactly sure what to do with that concept given the faction that resides there. The only thing I can think is Enclave involvement somehow, considering their whole goal was to leave the planet originally.
It won't be in my game's world space, but it would still be in good practice to work that out.
Ideas for that:
A New Vegas type conflict over the Wilson Dam in Alabama
A DLC where you can go to Cuba from New Orleans, drawing inspiration from Fallout Miami for Cuba
Nashville’s Strip has become something of a Proto-New Vegas with Crime Families living in the famous building (Hockey Stadium, The Grand Ole Opry, Football Stadium)
Factions Fighting for control of the main part of the Tennessee River
A Johnny Cash-Inspired Biker Gang
The NCR having a small presence in Western Louisiana from Texas, which they took over after the fall of Caesar’s Legion
I can see this going somewhere.
@@samh3805
There was a historical conflict over Wilson Dam sometime between 2258 and 2278, during the Tennessee Valley War, where the Dixie Confederation marched north of the 22, along the 65, and annexed the lands around Wheeler Lake during their main campaign of struggling to push into the Tennessee Valley. Their main goal for beginning this war was because Moonshine was outlawed by the DC back in 2246, and the Tenn. Valley was the main route for the drink to be smuggled into Dixie controlled territories. However, They were heavily resisted and suffered great losses to the hands of the TVA (Tennessee Valley Alliance) who formed due to the DC's presence. This consists of factions in the valley, including the massive Seven Lakes Clan, who operate out of the City of Seven Lakes (Knoxville). The furthest they were ever to push in the Tenn. Valley was to Chattanooga, a city they barely hold on to now.
The war was eventually called off by now President Redmond, who has been instead focusing his efforts on pushing north through the territories of the Nash (Nashville), which they managed to "take" though they really only have say over the settlements around the city (who is control of other factions, a Cash inspired gang will probably find it's way in there now). This campaign goal is to push into Kentucky (the Mesial Heartland) and take control of the newly operational coal fields, which has caused the Coal Rush of '79 (the main, "Hoover Dam" like struggle of the game.) Two parties of the DC have different ideas of what to do with the coal, one wanting to fix the DC's inflating Fiat currency by backing it with coal, the other wanting to exploit the resource to advance industry and make themselves wealthier. This also comes with the added goal of reaching the Shiners of Eastern KY to eliminate the source of the Moonshine coming to the Dixie, negating any need to push into the Tenn. Valley again.
The actual world space only takes place in Kentucky, which Is known as the Mesial Heartland. And unfortunately this is for a Fallout PnP campaign, but if I had the knowledge, time and resources to make it into a Frontier-like mod, I would fucking LOVE to put in the time and work to make this happen. Were that ever happen outside of my dreams, there would certainly be DLC for the Nash, Seven Lakes, Cincinnati, and some other location I haven't thought of yet.
Also, about your NCR idea, this game takes place in 2279 so the NCR hasn't even made direct contact with the Legion yet, they're not going to be anywhere near Louisiana (the Bayou) at this point. Not to mention that I kind of want to separate from all of the stuff going on in the West and show how the Dixie kind of developed separate from all of that.
Good to know.
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Meanwhile at Bethesda: "How can we sell this 15 dollar horse armor for FO76?"
make a robot horse with holes to attach said armor pieces. and sell it as a set for 1500 or in 4 parts for 500 each
Sounds like something anyone with any future plans of you know, providing for themselves and their families, would say.
What is this a cross over episode
B*sheda is joke
My man thinking like a true capitalist
I would pitch in to crowdfund development of this game. A few thoughts though:
1. A creature companion named pumpkin (gotta carry on that tradition).
2. Radiated bigfoots in the northern mountains. Their eerie howls and whoops at night will be a terrifying rare encounter.
3. The New Canaanites should be a joinable faction, like the real-world religion. Playing a wastelander paladin of sorts would be fun.
There has actually been bigfoot sightings in Utah and one very close to where I live. Also another cool idea is to include creepy random encounters near the skinwalker ranch part of Utah.
@@deenut8571 Skinwalker stuff would be amazing!
Pseudo Nym Skinwalker ranch isn’t just known for Skinwalkers there has been numerous UFO sightings and anomalies in its area so much so it’s cut off from the general public by the government.
I like that Bugfoot idea alot.
What if instead of a actual Bigfoot, it was just a group of super mutants that instead of loosing all their hair grew like alot of it everywhere... Just thought that would be hilarious
Forget Bethesda all you need is a good team of dedicated modders and we could make this a reality.
@@peachyjam9440 You'd already get a 10 year old looking game with Bethesda.
@@peachyjam9440 i mean, just look at Tamriel Rebuilt for Morrowind, lots done for that.
CloverKong well
Not really since the current engine would limit what could be possible
Holy Doggo Tell that to Beyond Skyrim
Yeah Bethesda would replace the khans with brotherhood of steel and come up with an excuse why super mutants are in this area too then instead of having unique tribal factions, just sprinkle generic raider enemies around the map.
there should be an ambassador between the 80's and the Khans. Her name?
Chaka.
Chaka Kahn
underrated post. had a hearty chuckle
Dan-El
Is she of White Legs descent?
@@fumarc4501 black foot!
PMW3 I don’t get it
"Wyoming likely wouldn't be slammed with nukes."
*Giggles in Cheyenne Mountain Complex.*
That's in Colorado bro.
@@rolandkushm.d.710 I assume he meant Francis E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne.
A total of 450 LGM-30G missiles are emplaced at the base in Cheyenne but there are minute man silos placed through out the state.
its shame that The Calculator, Vault 0 "Cheyenne Mountain" and the massive Robot army isn't canon
@@leeboy26 why? He didn't say that.
Bethesda needs to hire you guys, seriously.
they don't. the problem is not the creative part of bethesda but the financial part....
surely you use bethesda . net
Agree.Sadly Bethesda is way too arrogant to do so..
Yes this video is fine and all, but the major difference is. Bethesda doesn't make games for fun like these guys, they make games for profit, money. If you dig in and begin to understand their corporate structure you'll find the top doesn't care about Fallout beyond its established brand. They really couldn't care less about content.
It's obviously a healthy company hiring based on talent and ability so expect the job offers soon......................... hahahahahahahaha sorry I couldn't keep that up hahaa. Srsly tho this is amazing and you should be hired. You just won't be.
Yes! They NEED to make this game!
Great idea, but I feel like the Hill Air Force Base would've been targeted a bit more than SLC. If not it'd definitely be a nice place for a faction to hold up at.
I just stumbled onto this particular series of yours. This is the sort of thing I've done on my own for the last 30-ish years of my life, mostly without an outlet. I had no idea that you were doing this! This is brilliant stuff, so detailed and solid. I look forward to participating in future livestreams. :) Thanks for all the great content!
One idea I actually thought would be cool would be if instead of having a raider gang in the satellite station it would be a small group of enclave remnants. I feel like maybe during your trip to Woodspoke the people there will talk of a strange creature that only comes out at night, describing it as dark with two orange glowing eyes. They say that many have pursued the creature but none have returned, but when you travel into the mountains the enclave instead choose to enlist your services. I thought perhaps like the Mojave Chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel, they'd also have power struggles, with one group remaining xenophobic and wanting to wipe out all mutants and the other just wanting to rebuild America. One thing I thought of was having the two groups being led by known enclave decendants, with the xenophobic group under the leadership of one of Dick Richardson's decendants and the other led by Augustus Autumn the third and his brother named something like James, (Provided the lone wanderer chose to let Colonel Autumn live.) And their reasoning for scouting the town is they want to acquire a pre-war cache filled with weapons and other rare pieces of technology the people of Woodspoke built their town on. The Richardson ending to this side plot would involve accusing major Autumn and his brother of being traitors to the United States for abandoning the enclaves original mission and kill everyone in the town and burn away their houses to get to the cache, later building a base on the ashes. Or you could side with the people of Woodspoke and destroy the enclave leaving their homes intact. Or you could side with Major Autumn and his brother chief scientist James, to convince the enclave to abandon purity and focus on rebuilding America, in which they take a diplomatic approach to Woodspoke giving military protection as well as using some of the tech from the cache to provide electricity and clean drinking water. Later in the game it would be possible for Richardson to join Thomas Praxton to use their weapons and advanced equipment to help destroy the Pariah League, the 80s, and later the Khans. Or if you side with the Autumn brothers you could again convince them to work with the pioneers, or you could convince them to ally with the Pariahs or the Hands of the Father, however the Khans and 80s will always be undisputed enemies as the enclave aren't fans of their raider like activity and the Khans dislike them because of the enclaves disregard for nature. I also thought it would be cool if there was an enclave companion you could take with you who's also conflicting with the two groups and you could convince him to either follow the enclaves original mission in which case he becomes hostile to the Pariah League or you can convince him otherwise and he'll become more excepting of mutants, but he'll still be a military man. And finally I thought it would be cool if many of the more xenophobic choices were only possible if you took a trait I like to call "True Human" where your uncorrupted human DNA makes you 20% more susceptible to diseases but you're much better with scientific skills.
Frankly, this is some mighty impressive lore you've built. I applaud the creative minds of whomever is behind this!!!
Thanks!
im loving this, since i currently live in Wyoming XD
I love the khans and would love to see them in a game again.
I really dislike the khans. They are just another band of failed raiders, cruel and stupid. Nothing special about them.
@@JeroenDoes valid opinion. But I like them because they have a theme and they don't have to fail if you help them. I mean how the hell do win against the legion without the help of a godly messenger who was just shot in the face anyway? In the game they're proposing there is the possibility of them rising up and proving to be not so weak. Them or some other clan like them.
@@Frodo_Shaggins I do not dislike them because I think them weak but because the do not seem to learn from the past.
They started as raiders, kidnapping people for randsom. Then they got their asses handed to them. They reformed but got killed of again.
They now where in a siatuation where they were up against a much bigger power then themselves. Their reaction? Same as always raiding untill someone showed up and defeated them.
Now they were near vegas where the followers took pity on them. How did they approuch the situation? They misused that trust and started making gems for money.
I have no doudt that given the change the Khans would once again live life as a raider faction. (They only did not do thst in new vegas because they were too weak after their defeats).
The khans symbolize stagnation, there is no future for them. I preffer the legion because they are heading somewhere (if ceasar lives). they plan to make vegas their home and build a reall state from there.
@@JeroenDoes I see your point. I bet if the courier helps them leave Nevada they probably start the cycle over again, just in another state that doesn't know them.
@@JeroenDoes pov you have never played fo1 nor know anything about khan lore
Are they talking about Caesar's Legion? Knowing Bethesda they're going to screw it up. To those who do not remember some of the dialogue, they mentioned about the conquest of the east of the Colorado River during the events Fallout New Vegas. And depending on the actions Caesar's Legion and the Battle of Hoover Dam, they would fail to try to capture New Vegas return back to the east and reform or capture New Vegas but it was a short-lived reign.
I'm curious on what Caesar Legion looks like in the east of the Colorado
From knowledge, it’s said that there’s less raider activity as all are incorporated into the legion through traders with a advanced economic spending system and networks of supply lines from Two-Sun to Malpais
The idea of Mormons branding crosses in their skin doesn't track- Mormons use no cross iconography. An angel Moroni or his trumpet would fit better, or maybe the all seeing eye, a star representing kolob, etc
Teryn Shaw I’ve thought about that too. I wonder if fallout Mormons have different beliefs in some ways? Thinking so because we never really hear of them mention a prophet or the Mormon Church structure.
@@0Maloy1 there could also be some differences that happened after the divergence in our timelines. Maybe the mormon faith underwent a change involving their iconography.
Mormons have it in our scriptures that it is sinful to mark up our skin so that has another layer of stupid.
Cpt. semi useful yeah, but catholic crusaders got tattoos and it wasn’t in theirs either. The soldier classes of great churches aren’t always fully educated in the ways of the religion, or they don’t follow the religion fully.
Well, the only reason Mormons tend not to use the cross is because of an aversion to catholic symbolism in the early 1900's. A couple hundred years after the Great War, there wouldn't really be any reason to not use the cross as there aren't any catholics/protestants to contrast against.
Seems too good to be true. One might say... It just works?
Lol
I love the khans, this idea is cool as hell.
I think it would've been far more interesting if the Legion made a return under a Augustus like figure. Caesar seemed to follow the story of his historical counterpart, so I think it would have only made sense for him to have chosen an heir. Making the instability after Caesar's death similar to the conflicts between Octavius and Antony. Plus with all of the cut Legion content of NV it would be intriguing to see a more full picture of the faction.
ьотатo ьотато I had the same idea for my fallout: Colorado as the legion is camped out in southern Colorado (Colorado springs to Pueblo) as the Two sons would take control either t9 modernize their weaponry or use traditional methods as they try to open Cheyenne Mountain complex after the “failed attempts” to open it by the brotherhood. But yeah I totally agree dude
I would personally like vulpes to be the new Caesar
A more interesting idea is to make the Legion like the Western and Eastern empires (Byzantines), as this is implied to be what’ll happen if they win at the dam anyway. I had an idea recently, for the western Legion to be a backwater, poor, weak, “empire” in New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado, barely clinging to life and being constantly invaded, and immensely corrupt, just like the WRE.
Meanwhile, the eastern legion finds its “Constantinople”, and learns from Caesar’s mistakes. It becomes more open to technology, and is less about a unified culture…. In a sense, like a continuation of the Byzantines. I even had an idea for them to have their own mutant version of the Varangian guard (I do know the Legion is anti-mutant, I just think that’s awesome), and they eventually find and conquer Memphis.
This is a much more interesting idea and it’s more in line with that everyone says will happen it to the Legion.
The Fallout Frontier we wanted, and still need. Very beautifully crafted storyboarding, even if a mod for F4 I'd pay 29.99, hell more even to see this to fruition.
The frontier is amazing tho, it used the engine in amazing way.
This is so great! I would LOVE to play this game!
I would love to have a fallout game set in Alaska with remnants of the Chinese military duking it out with remnants of the U.S. Military that isn't loyal to the enclave. Both sides are willing to commit war crimes against the other in order to achieve victory.
With all due respect to Alaska's vistas and historical sites, I don't think that location alone would allow for a full-scale game...
The idea does sound terrific, though. I'd love to see a Fallout version of Barrow. I imagine it would have a makeshift nuclear powerplant. Or maybe it would've been powered by a reactor of nuclear submarine that made it to the shore on the farthest outskirts of the settlement. The sub could be manned by ghouls. You can imagine the branching options for the power struggle quest that would inevitably take place.
I really couldn't see them not being apart of the enclave, especially if it involves war crimes. They love that shit
But after 200 years? Nah
@@muslimcrusader5987 This idea is too Bethesda for even Bethesda.
@@alfalafelstine1536 that’s haram
This is great, first video of yours I watched but I love the idea completely. I'm especially a fan of the Khanate, the starting point, the Pariah Legion, and the companions.
Thanks for watching! Hopefully you'll see our next Ideal game video too :)
There should be a ghoul leader in salt lake city that rides a giant glowing deer companion
You mean a gun slinging Mormon Hancock?
I'm 1000000% down for this game. And I've seen literally the title and the first 30 seconds.
Keep this shit up, my dudes!!! Its great.
Thanks! It's a real challenge to do vids like this but we love to pull it off 🤠
The khans are my favorite faction.
I’d love to see a big open post apocalyptic Wyoming national forest with a FireWatch meets apocalypse vibe.
I hope vulpes will be a returning character that can either be a wandering traveler you can meet, a big quest giver, or even a follower.
Also I hope someone would please sit tod Howard down and force him to watch this video in full. This game needs to happen.
old weapon and tech design needs to return as apposed to the fallout 4/76 design.
Skyrim’s style of home settlement and marriage should also return.
Honestly, I'd really like it if the Followers had more presence _outside_ of the Khanate priest caste, with more legitimately anarchist perspectives.
I'm an hour in, and this is one of my favorite video game related videos. I love when people are so engaged in a series that they explore what they'd like to see and experience in said serious. Heck, it's just fun.
Ah can’t forget the Mormons, they’ll definitely have to mention of Dixie at some interesting or failed settlement and maybe visit it in a DLC tons of mutated desert monsters and maybe an Large Mormon faction and some military ones also lots of cults, so many cults
nah, modern Mormons have an even dimmer opinion of heretics than the Catholics. t. Mormon
I live in Utah and not all of us are Mormons in fact a lot of us hate Mormons
@@cadenchristiansen3553 I also live and grew up in Utah
@@WolfShadowhill oh cool we’re in utah
I really like the idea of the 80s having a sort of Mad Max aesthetic, obsessed with the highways as a sort of cultural identity like how the raiders in Fury Road are obsessed with cars
Thats about all we have in cannon on them bethesda told us like two things about the 80s their radeors who wear a large 80 on them and they use moticycles
Glad someone made the independent new vegas victory canon
Reign As far as i know this would be also possible with other endings, like the Mr. House one.
This is basically possible with all endings, except for Legate Lanius. If NCR, or House wins, then they will split up rather quickly. If, however, Caeser wins, then it'll just take more time. I always hated the independent ending. Since it is just a chaotic Mojave Wasteland. As said in the ending, everything turns into shit. Where raiders, even if the Courier kills them, reign supreme. It is basically the House ending, but a whole lot worse.
@@Jolrog i know by independent i meant anything not ncr or caesars legion related
I always choose House, he is the order and visionary that New Vegas needs.
Keeps the Status Quo, without seemingly like giving one factions favoritism. If anything, they didn’t want to give the NCR the easy win.
2 minutes in and sounds cool so far. Good stuff fellas.
Companion Idea: The Brotherhood Exile.
A former Brotherhood of Steel Paladin that was exiled from an unsaid chapter for crimes they do not want to talk about. Has a huge hate on for mutants and tribals, but has shown a willingness to work with those who have proven themselves as capable/honorable.
Really cool video! I'm a big Fallout fan and my grandmother on my mom's side lived in Wyoming for a while!
You should keep the haunted Green River library in mind. It would make for a great Khans base of operations.
This sounds amazing!
I would personally make Todd Howard make this game at gunpoint if needed.
I'd prefer Todd Howard not ruin a project like this with his minimalist, distillation approach to game design.
@@AncientSlugThrower I'd argue his design results in games that are far more fun to play
@@AncientSlugThrower he made morrowind your point is invalid
a really important location i want to see is fort caspar. it was a military post and river crossing in post civil war westward expansion. it would be home to a minuteman like faction of cavarly dressed up like the soldiers from the 1860s. there would be two special weapons: the spencer carbine and remington/colt army revolver. the spencer would be a more powerful slower firing version of the cowboy rifle from fallout new vegas. the remington/colt conversion would just be nice looking if done correctly. you can get like horse related perks or training, special horses, and new mechanics like horse drawn artillery
Crawl out of the fallout. Wake up Mr. Freeman it's time to wake up and smell the ashes.
as some one who was born in new Canaan and grew up in Trainyard this video is amazing! the fact that you included things like the round house and pink floyd the flamingo are so awsome for the local community who understand the references. there are a few nitpicks like the fact that Mormons don't use the cross as a symbol, and south west Wyoming is probably too mountainous and hilly to be considered plains. overall an amazing video, truly awesome to see my home town be a major trading post in your fallout game. keep up the good work.
I also have an idea for a Fallout game. "Fallout 80" Following the remains of the largely destroyed Interstate 80, your character is part of the first major effort to reconnect the East and West coasts. (So, timeline would be about a century after the bombs fell). Bringing back the Karma mechanic, word of how you act gets ahead of you and can set the stage for the next area, and ultimately, the end of the game. You establish safe rest stops, and clear hazards as you make your way back to California. Yep, that's right, your character survived the initial nukes, and became a ghoul. (Your character was on business in New York, and was Ghoulified from the ones that hit the city). What awaits you in California is completely up to what your Karma is. The basic story is one of movement and rebuilding as you go. I know it is rough, but I think it could work.
So the Postman as a ghoul.
@@thesilentninja9255 Nope. More like what I described, but with a non-whining settlement system and constant westward expansion.
I cannot wait for the Great Khans Horse Armour dlc!
Hahahaha i get it
Bro horses are extinct after the bombs dropped, so you are gonna wear the horse armour
Unless you can get your hands on Synth Horse, which would require both the Beast Mastery feat and a high science skill.
Quit ruining the joke moron or a nod to oblivion where you had to pay like 15 dollars for a horse armor dlc
As someone who lives in the Salt Lake Valley, your Southern cutoff point for the map would be dreadful if the edges of the map are handled the same way they usually handle them - the amount of industrial, urban, and metropolitan accumulation right where you cut the map off would mean players would wander into Salt Lake, and they'd have to see signs of more stuff to the South, and when they'd go looking, they would be cut off, probably somewhere in the middle of a lot of (traditionally) densely populated areas
It's hard cutting off anywhere there is a city in Northern Utah because the way they build here, they just grow communities until they reach other communities. The entire Salt Lake Valley is pretty much continuous urban centers, broken up by the most disgusting of industrial zones and equally disgusting metropolitan city areas. It would be very difficult cutting off the map anywhere in that general area.
Ah yes,
let's see how that turns out...
You gotta remember their future isn't our future, or present. What 2019 Salt Lake looks like to us isn't what it would look like in the Fallout Universe.
I mean c'mon dude.
Colton Husher true it can have certain aspects of salt lake but doesn’t have to be layed out the exact same
So Ogden or perhaps Layton circa 1950?
Bombed. Problem solved.
Fallout: wasn’t made by Bethesda, now that’s a game I’d play
Love it! Absolutely a part of the Fallout world I’d love to see firsthand.
My input: I’d like if the ending of New Vegas was left slightly more ambiguous. I know a lot of people like the Independent ending, but I’m a diehard “NCR Golden End” which I don’t think is fully incompatible with Independent if you do it right. It would just be a shame to see the NCR straight up defeated after F1 and F2’s worth of growth.
Second is I think a fun quest would be an “For Auld Lang Sine” type mission but with Legion remnants. Pretty much exclusively if you want to turn the 80s or the Khanate MUCH more evil and sort of forebode that the Legion isn’t fully dead in some way, but no way to utilize the remnants if you’re going for a more peaceful route.
I like the focus on tribal cultures. NV and Honest Hearts were great in that regard and this looks like a continuation of those themes.
Given Hatch's backstory, I suspect he may be a jaded Deacon after the potential failure of the Railroad.
I need this to be a thing. I’m too hyped for this not to be a thing
I have been saying we need a Fallout game like this forever, I had no idea my favorite UA-cam channel practically made my dream Fallout game. Also if this game does get made I'm 100% gonna visit where I live near Ogden lmao.
The real question is when are fudgemuppet fans gonna crowd fund the channel till they can become their own gaming company?
No bullshit, I originally thought the Ideal Elder Scrolls VI Hammerfell was favorite video you guys ever did. I only watched your TES content since I'm always warey about watching Fallout opinion videos due to the fandom being so toxic. This right here is now my favorite video. This idea for a setting is so fucking thought out and amazing, I want to play it so badly. Maybe I'll try to run a Fallout set ttrpg campaign based on everything here. Idk, but it sure got me so excited I just had to buy that badass shirt you guys are selling. From the rabid fanboy in me, thanks Fudgemuppet.
Just listening to this video makes me want to cry a little knowing we'd likely only get this from modders, and only MANY years from now.
Great video guys! After playing New Vegas last year I thought of how the developers of the fallout franchise could reboot it to its glory days before fallout 76 and make an awesome game again. And I must say, this is it. This is the perfect fallout game. The concept feels really fresh and exiting but at the same time really classic thanks to the great khans influencing this concept a lot and also much of Utah and Wyoming being influenced by old choices that the courier did in New Vegas. All the factions feel really fresh, cool and complex. I also love that the player isn’t forced into some kind of story like in fallout 4 but instead gets to choose their own story. Honestly great video. For me this would be the next perfect fallout game. It’s an awesome story that I would love to explore and I really don’t see how the developers of fallout could create a more interesting story and concept than this.
Really really loved this vid please do more of these
As someone from Salt Lake City this video was super interesting. Listening to you guys talk about the locations and imagining all these places I know ruined and iradiated sounds like a perfect fallout game. You guys did your research for sure. You are missing some good locations though that could be used to add even more to this. Like Duchesne Utah a town on the edge of starvation reservoir that would have dried up being in the desert.
I live about 30 minutes from Duchesne. I think there were be a lot of cool stuff around here--look at Vernal and all the dinosaur stuff. It as a post-apocalyptic setting would be cool.
I do have an idea for a DLC.
The legion is shattered. During the battle of Hoover Dam, Caesar was killed by the Securitrons beneath Fortification Hill. Without their leader, the legion was shattered into two main forces: The Loyalists, and the Republicans.
The Loyalists are those who stand by the Caesars beliefs and philosophies. They're lead by Lucius, who'd renamed himself Augustus. They're brutal slavers, and would be the more evil faction.
The Republicans are the smaller, but better trained and better equipped side of the legion civil war. They're lead by a figure named The Consul, and are a more open society. They would have more advanced gear, and make use of mercenaries and female legionnaires.
Main quest would be simple: choose a side, and beat the other. But, I could think of a number of smaller quests. For the Loyalists, things like slaving missions, raids, and making examples of towns and people. For the Republicans, these would be recruiting, hunting down Loyalist raiders, and protecting territory.
Armor and weapons could be of a decent variety. Loyalists would have armor inspired by the Caesars New Regime mod, along with more tribal or older equipment like slings and hand-cranked gatling guns, along with the typical pistols, throwing spears, and machetes. Republicans would have armor made of Pre-war combat armor, a special "auxiliary" helmet based of the Montefortino, and wield more advanced weapons.
I call it: FALLOUT: VENI, VIDI, VICI.
What do you think?
Damn! That sounds awesome. Perhaps there could be a implied reference to the Courier as the figure who let the Securitrons loose...
is the consul Vulpes or the courier?
@@semi-useful5178, hasn't decided yet, from the looks of it...
@@semi-useful5178 I was planning on it being a new character; perhaps one of Caesars old officers or another Frumentarii.
Vulpes is too loyal to Caesar to 'turn traitor', as it were. Plus, I'd imagine he'd also be dead. And in this case, Fudgemuppet said they were going with an independent Mojave. So, having the Courior being The Consul just makes no sense.
@@owenbever4689
Ok thank you.
imagine a fallout game in Alaska where their would be irradiated wolves and death claws adapted to snow...
I can't believe I listened to all of this.
We really appreciate it!
This is absolutely epic I love it!
I would love to see the NCR and Brotherhood have to join forces(ps I think they’d be unstoppable)to defeat some type of common enemy in Texas.
Imagine a super control vault. It is giant underground city that stretches miles underground with multiple entrances and was meant to house about 200,000. When the bombs dropped. Riots broke out at the entrances allowing more than double the vaults capacity in. The city developed a class pyramid. The original dwellers who paid to get in use the ones who broke in as slaves and cattle, but eventually there are uprisings that lead loads of different wars and conflicts. Even better, after an emergency shutdown, the doors jammed and would could no longer open from either side. With the right materials and a high backing skill. The player can gain entrance to the underground city. I see this as a far harbor sized DLC. The player decides what happens to the city. With one option being blowing it all to hell.
Y'all should just get a team together and make this into a mod. I would so donate to this idea. If the people at the frontier in New California can do it I'm sure you guys can
I like to think the song “streets of new Reno” is about the death of Joshua graham as shown in this video
I’m guessing that around this timeline, Caesar’s Legion, without its leader, is recovering from a civil war and trying to reform itself due to internal and external pressures, mainly their stance on technology. Overall, I imagine it to be relatively the same in terms of culture, religion, and ideology.
Dlc idea
Awesome another Fallout vid, i still like watching your Fallout 4 builds. Thank you
Nice! Sounds very intriguing.
16:35 That bush in the planter havin the time of it's life!
Nice vid!
Here's a spit take for interesting perk, an intimidation part based on strength instead of charisma where in melee combat with an opponent that has lower strength than you, you can manhandle them like literally forcing their arms down at their sides and staring right at them.
At an hour in i forgot this wasnt real. Yall have done such a good job making a fallout game bethesda should be ashamed of themselves
This is so well thought out that I want to play it, even if all the Fallout elements had to be stripped out. This is such a solidly put together post apocalypse scenario that I think it would still work without the Fallout influence. Perhaps someone should put the Wasteland team onto this creative effort. Excellent video Fudge, thank you for it!
Someone, make a mod of this ! Though, "Fallout: Khanate", would be better, no ? "Empire" is a bit evasive.
Khanate would be more appropriate, considering that it will have the Great Khans as a faction.
Have any of you ever been to Echo? It’s literally a street. My grandfather grew up there and I spent a lot of time in there as a kid and teenager. I spent a lot of time fishing on the Weber River nearby. Anyway, it would make way more sense to use Coalville or Hennefer as a base because there would be more buildings and resources left from before. They are small, isolated towns, but they actually have more than a single gas station, a single ancient church, a single post office, and like 6 houses.
Bruh.. I would literally be willing to pay my hard earned cash to play this! It actually feels alive just hearing about it!just saying yall are doing an awesome job! True role playing game...
I absolutely adore that you included pink floyd. You really did your research on my home
This would be great as a new vegas conversion. The assets are there and there is also a way into Utah...
All I can think of is scaling a 85/90 degree slope with a horse, Skyrim style.
what about the reservations in wyoming?
the arapahoe and shoshone tribes are pretty big over here. plus cashinoes.
They would most likely form kingdoms and empires of their own.
I live on the reservation. Its kinda boring
@@jeromeridgley2259 Arapahoe or Shoshone?
@@CloseingStraw97 arapaho
@@jeromeridgley2259 shit i live in arapaho
I love the idea of incorporating mutant horses and bison into the next Fallout game. I wonder if you'd have a weird, two-legged variety, as seen in something like "Wizards". Maybe cyborg horses would be a possibility, too? What about those gigantic mole rat pack animals shown in the Fallout 3 concept art? Or a regular mole rat companion? I also love your idea of dangerous mutant turkeys. Perhaps they would resemble prehistoric "terror birds"? I've thought Fallout needed something like that for a long time.
For the love of Christ himself this needs to get made
SIXTEEN TIMES THE DETAIL!! It just works!! Very cool ideas here. Great job.
In one of the scenes at the end on New Vegas it mentions Raul leaving and changing his name like he had done many times before so if hatch had changed his name multiple times also so he could mabey be Raul
This is amazing , want to be playing this right now. Good job fellas 👍🏻
Looks like I’m stuck with the Khans (I live in Cheyenne). Grew up in northern Wyoming an hour outside of Yellowstone though - that would also be cool to see in a post-apocalyptic setting because there’s so much geothermal activity there anyways!
Around Cody/Powell area? This whole region would be fun in a fallout game
@@TheArchersArms Yep - grew up in Powell! And I agree
@@nic_tracy I live in greybull, a fallout game here would have to be more about living off the land though, not many ruins nearby
I recall a mod that was being made that would've taken place in Wyoming. It's no longer in production as the creator found it too daunting. I think it's called Fallout: Wyoming or Fallout: Rise of the Great Khanate.
There’s a mod for a game called Hearts of Iron IV, and it has a mod which adds the western half of North America. I’d take inspiration from their faction called “Heaven’s Gate” and have them fight with the Khans.
The Heaven's Gate military can have a crusader theme.
I am back to watch this gem of a video.
With but one suggestion for past Fudgemuppet. I posit a name....
FALLOUT: NEW KHANS