McLaren 750S vs Ferrari 296 GTB | Who makes the better supercar?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- #McLaren #Ferrari #McLarenvsFerrari
Join us for a battle of the supercars where the Ferrari 296 GTB takes on the McLaren 750S. Here, CAR magazine’s Ben Barry reviews both cars, compares speed, performance, handling and buying info and then, finally, announces a worthy winner.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro comparison
2:22 - 750S walkaround and info
4:59 - 750S driving
12:12 - 296 GTB walkaround and info
13:38 - Price and options
16:48 - 296 GTB driving
21:30 - Verdict
Want to stay up to date with CAR's videos? Subscribe here:
ua-cam.com/users/CARmagaz...
Get more content from Car with a magazine subscription:
www.greatmagazines.co.uk/car-...
Get the latest reviews and news from CAR magazine here:
www.carmagazine.co.uk/
Follow us at:
X: @CARmagazine
Instagram: carmagazine
Facebook: CAR Magazine
@BenBarryCars
CAR is the online edition of CAR magazine, Britain's oldest monthly motoring mag. It's the UK's best and fastest online motoring news service, providing a constant stream of scoops, first drives and official pictures of new cars.
With thanks to Adam Binnie. - Авто та транспорт
McLaren 750S or Ferrari 296 GTB - which gets your vote? Answer below!
That Ferrari spec is tragic
Ferrari 296 GTB all the way, anyday ❤
750 for sure
750s
Depends. How many McLarens would I have to buy first to get a slot?
Ferrari is these days on another level in many aspects. It seems they nailed a pretty sweet spot in terms of compromise between a functional carved by performance super car and a work of art
And add that Ferrari is straight ahead as regards fuel efficiency
It's ugly looking
well, you know the old saying. when Ferrari sucks at F1, their production car is great. vise versa.
I would rather have a 10 year old 458 than the 296 regardless of price. I can't enjoy 800+ HP on the road but a NA V8 that revs to 9k can be enjoyed all the time.
Can confirm. Any genuine car enthusiast would agree. The 458 was the last "great" Ferrari. Prove me wrong :)
@@ferrarikangaroo9271 430 Scuderia was even better as a driver's car and F12 tdf was equally thrilling to drive if not more.
@@_AmarjitSinghtdf are actually too fast for the rd if truth be told
458 is a masterpiece - it still looks contemporary today, and N/A is great, though the lastest turbo ferraris like this 296 still sound good
@@IgorCrazy-pr7xv Quite a few people prefer the tdf for that very reason and even though there's the 812 competizione with more power but it isn't as thrilling as its predecessor.
I had the gtb for six months and now I have the gts with a full Novitec exhaust. The exhaust and the open car changed the whole car!!! The sound from the exhaust is louder than my 458. The Ferrari is just crazy!!!!
Are you hiring?? 😂
@@UnaStamus91😂
Got a gts on order and wondered about the novitec exhaust, is yours full decat ? Got that on my 488, lovely but fails all emission tests
And sounds shittier
@@Shadowboostand how would you know?
750s without a second thought, its lines are astonishing and it's analogue performance appeals to me.
Harry’s garage picked the 750s and based onto his 2,000 mile report I’d do the same, brilliant, planted and simple, 300kg less weight ! total opposite to the tech overload and twitchy balance of the 296 ….
mclaren commercial by harry
For the fist time in my life, I am veering towards dreaming of a mclaren over a Ferrari! I loved the 458 /488 but find the latest not so desirable as this MClaren and Harry's review down to Antibes was a really pull on the tug of war turn!
@@omerfarukcan4407 that’s not really true, since most reviews highlighted Harry’s aspects.
McLaren has way lower weight, hydraulic steering, clean steering wheel and fantastic ride for a supercar via it’s control’s.
Ferraris aren’t always the best haha
@@omerfarukcan4407 why would harry possibly have any reason to do that? He's retired has no reason to do videos if he doesn't want to.
Yea but terrible reliability and build quality
I know its a trad paint job on the Ferrari but it looks horrible. Agree with lots of comments i would just go 488. How much can tou ever use on a public road.
I absolutely agree with the paint... the blue interior IMO is actually sick, if the car was either completely argento nurburgring with that blue interior, or, argento nurburgring with the AC matching blue exterior accents (minus the wheels, too much there) it would actually look stunning.....but.... IDK if you've actually looked into the 296, it's capabilities and it's powerplant, but the thing is literally a unicorn.... it's one of those cars that's so good, it's being kinda overlooked, like people think the SF90 is the top mid engined offering currently from Ferrari.... that's what Ferrari wants you to believe as well, but they clearly made a mistake with the 296, it's F'ing phenomenal. I've seen it beat the SF90 both in the ¼ and the ½ mile, sure it doesn't have the sheer lateral grip as the SF90 for tracks like the Ring, but it still ran a sub 7 minute time, and IMO, is the superior "everyday" supercar. Definitely wouldn't take a 488 over it....sure the 488 is gorgeous, but the 296 is literally the direct evolution of the Dino 206/246, I actually think if they would've called it the Dino it would've been even more lusted after.
Who the fuck spec'ed a blue AND red Ferrari
Par for the course for Car mag. Always hyping EN cars, and deemphasizing competitors. Like when they spec'd a convertible Z06 as competitor last year
Blu livery is a homage to past Scuderia Racing Ferraris that has those colour schemes
@@eliseon8573 I get that, but it should have been left there as it looks simply awful. Black and red would have been a better bet like their F1 cars, but a solid colour would otherwise just look nicer.
@@cw205mi16 totally agree with you, for many it’s preference. This vinyl also only comes with the performance pack of the 296 GTB. Yes black stripes would’ve totally been better. Ferrari is all about their history and paying homage to it.
Folks who know the history.
Not a fan of the Ferrari blue mustache!
Yeah looks more like a Renault Megane haha
All Mclaren's are rapid! However, the 296GTB with it's Hybrid V6 is a modern masterpiece! Goosebumps.
Bravo, Ben Barry!
I was missing your vibrant but rigourous and enthusiastic journalism, written or spoken.
Thank you!
The 720S has already shown to be producing close to 800hp on the dyno. So the 750S in reality will be putting out well north of 800hp, and therefore is very close to the 296 GTB in terms of outright power.
Bang on mate . I saw a 765 on a Dyno and guess what , it made 765 at the wheel and they estimated 865 at crank which is insane .
Very accurate statement. The McLarens are wheel horsepower if not more.
The 296 GTB is definitely producing more power than stated. Mclaren isn't the only one that can play the underrated game. The 296gtb is actually faster in a roll race than a 1000hp SF90. Gives you an idea of what kind of a weapon it is. They just underrate it so that they don't upset 812 and SF90 buyers
@@DonLee1980 these Ferraris are just crazy , man . Bonkers fast .
@@vacateistheword If you look at their laptimes, the 296gtb is setting blistering lap times on relatively modest width tires. C&D ran 9.6s 1/4 mile in their test. insane.
Hideous spec aside, I really like the Ferrari.
I haven’t driven the 750S, but had a quick go in both the 296GTB with the adaptive suspension, and the Assetto Fiorano trim. The track-biased suspension is noticeably more communicative, and the car steers with more confident. Definitely it’s the driver’s choice between the two trims. Other than that, the 296 is incredibly fast at all times. The torque-fill is seamless and the gear shift is lightning quick. The bar is indeed set very very high. A big step ahead from the 488 and the F8 Tributo.
Great write up. How is the ride quality between the two?
@@memememine1 It was a short drive on each. The adaptive dampers set up is more comfortable, but also firm enough on track. However, the passive set up is perhaps slightly firmer, but more assuring. Some trade-off to think about when speccing the car.
@@wisrutebLack of front lift with AF is also a consideration
I was just thinking about what I’d prefer to own, a 296 or an 812. I know the 812 is a GT, but it would be a really difficult for me to choose.
The length of the options list is just mind boggling ! Absolutely crazy ! And I bet if you order them with less than 10.000,- in options certainly Ferrari will make you wait for your car at least a year longer. Some of the buyers of these cars must be masochists… The more pain, the more fun ? I think not.
Think like a millionaire, and then you'll understand. They don't think like ordinary people. I noticed that many times. I'm not a millionaire at all, and I would say that they don't waste their time watching UA-cam, they own channels and someone else works on those for them.
Must be a masochist? Masochist, or fools?
if you have ferrari money then all those options are chump change, that's why ferrari do it
To get all the speed and power arguments out of the way, I raced my 296gtb against a 750s and came out ahead every time by a tiny bit, at every speed. It was so close that it really didn't matter honestly.
So you won by a narrow margin or the 750S? Sorry its not so clear.
Oh damn CAR Magazine been waiting for this one 😳
Us too tbh
The 296 GT3 won the N24 outright and this shows its mettle.
Both are very heavy.
huh??
The 296 gt3 is not the same car as the 296
Completely irrelevant, since GT3s are BOP'd
@@aplanedividedthesky To finish first, first of all, you have to the finish. The N24 is a good event as reliability is as just important as speed. What is significant is that Ferrari are not the natural winners at the N24.
I hope that McLaren win as much as anyone else. In both cases the road cars are heavy.
You know, the fact that a car colour scheme devised when the issue was to stand out in a crowded field of 20 crazy nutters is “historic legacy paintwork” does NOT make it any more attractive. Sadly the baby blue on the 296 is god damn ugly and totally ruins the aesthetics of what is normally a gorgeous car. It ain’t no Martini, Gulf or even JPS 🤨
Yep it was a poor choice.
Thrilling comparison
100k in options is just crazy to me! Some of those options cost more than my car and two motorbikes combined!
Great reviews mate
Of the two cars, I would take the Case that was parked in the field. The torque, the weight, the powerful dieselturbo. It makes a farmer want to make it all hang out.
What an awesome review
Thanks!
Nice one Ben.
Additional power & torque can compensate for weight any time. However, you're unavoidably into compromised handling and breaking with that additional weight.
He's wrong in saying that 750S front springs rates being stiffer than 720S. Actually front track is is wider and softer (for improved front end bite) this is combined with stiffer rear spring rates to reduce understeer.
720S was inclined to understeer on the limit more than some of its fast customers would like, when combined with its max boost lag, that car was prone to frustrate in power down mid/out corner scenarios.
All these type of cars come with some degree of build in understeer (as it makes easier to control for an average punter), its just 720S came in for some criticism (although nowhere near as much as Huracan LP610s did)
He said its 4% softer in the front in the video
@@ivancnh8667 See @ around 6:45 or so, when he claims that the engineers told him that.
Has anybody ordered a no extras ferrari or mclaren?
All seems a bit willy waving to me.
Happily i know my position in life abd will never need to loose sleep pondering the option list on a supercar😢
The thing that reslly spoilz the ferarri is all touch screen dash and overy busy interface if they had made it more analog it whould have won alot more buyer over
I've the suspect that Rod Dennis bought and spec that 296 to give it to the press...that paint job and those blue wheels are simply unforgivable...and it's funny that McLaren sends the 750 s knowing their Artura would be destroyed...
The paint job on the ferrari ( I know the history) is just RUBBISH.
Just get it in another colour then
Some pretty serious driving there.
I would but the Ferrari. I don't think I could deal with the McLaren's depreciation - it's a moot point obviously!
You just wait a couple of year then buy one second hand when it's taken the hit,then you get one for a reasonable price😊
296 is a hybrid. You would definitely see a big depreciation as well.
I still think that as MCL has the Artura, that should be pitted against the 296? Little point in extolling features (hybrid) that 750s doesn't have, apples & oranges really. I'm pretty sure the lighter & cheaper Mclaren would hold it's own to some extent.
Brilliant review
Thanks!
Sometimes the past should be left in the past. Such as that paint job.
This resembles the 296 that JayEmm drove and discovered that spectators did not resent it. He credited the weird color scheme for reminding people of AntMan or SpiderMan that spared him from ugly side conversations. He said people resent these cars and their drivers. He ended up liking the color scheme as well as the car. It is different looking and requires getting used to. People who own cars like this probably get bored having to fill out order forms for the same old red and black combo every time they buy a new Ferraris. Do all English roads look like this or does everybody drive such cars in the same neighborhood--JayEmm, Harry's Garage, Number 27, Car Guys, CarWow, Car, Chris Harris, etc.
Yes lots of roads like this all over the UK - B-Roads they’re called and is why we usually prefer good handling cars to drag cars. Thrashing down roads like these is awesome fun until you run into a tractor, cyclists, dog walkers etc 😂 - lots are national speed limit, so 60mph and not usually patrolled by the rozzers.
As much as i like the McLaren, the 296 seems to be a more clinical Supercar. Overall i'd take the McLaren but the 765LT. The hardcore McLaren is the choice. But i know that is not an everyday car.
Amazing that the 750S STILL looks more modern than the 296, even futuristic. McLaren knocked it WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY out of the park with the 720. Not much was needed to keep the 750S ahead of everything short of a full-blown hypercar.
Even more incredible when you consider the Big Mac is 20,000 quid less than the Ferrari.
750 for me. Better steering feel, V8, significantly lighter and stiffer chassis, more comfortable suspension.
765 lt for me. Between these two, I’ll take the 750S. Not a huge fan of the Ferrari looks. Its shape, especially the front end, reminds me of the Mazda MX6 from the 90’s. Not a bad looking car at all, the MX6, but my supercar shouldn’t have econo-sports car vibes. The 750S just delivers visually more than the 296 imho.
Yes blad...that Ferrari is the only thing that can keep up with that McLaren ...was just thinking of the match up please...I need a dragrace
Probably the new revuelto too
Im italian but i go on 750s true autentic street/race masterpiece.
I’d get the 296 in the base spec. Don’t need the extras. First Ferrari In awhile that just hits the spot for me.
The paint on the ferrari is horrible the sf 90 is better.
Just pant the Ferrari differently,search black 296
Mclaren every time
Not in that spec, absolutely not, love the blue seats actually, over silver paint would absolutely kill, but if I had the funds, boyyy.... I'm taking a 296 GTB all damn day, just in Verde Minerale over Cuoio with a full, catless, Tubi exhaust and some better wheels, potentially some 3pc HRE 505's.... that car is entirely too damn good (especially with a full exhaust 😍)
Ask Chris Harris he went for The McLaren 750s so did Harry's garage. Over the Ferrari 296GTB. Still love the 488 Pista.
I love what the 750 is but I hate the front
I really like this colour of the ferrari
I would rather have a Porsche 911 Turbo S that can actually put its power down on the road and is so much more practical. It’s is faster than either of these in the real world
the 296 is 20 sec faster than the turbo s around the ring dumass
You mudt love understeer
To be honest, would the 296 really disappear into the distance against a 750 s on the road? I’d believe you might see a distance on the track, but can you really explore the performance of either enough on the road safely or legally on the road? Latterly, definitely not, formerly, not a chance without at the very least terrifying other road users. My dad and I were making respectable cross country progress when am r35 gtr overtook us, deploying a significantly larger proportion of its performance than we wer3 I; the gti and it was frankly ridiculous to be doing that speed on that road. Even in an R35, if the driver had to take evasive action, somebody would have died as somebody would’ve had no time to react.
I’d be fascinated to know who specs their 296 to that level? It’s like going to a fine dining restaurant and ordering rverything on the menu just because you can. Doesn’t mean you’ve had an amazing meal compared to person who’s taken time to order something they’ll enjoy.
Can you imagine McLaren painting their front red 😂
Ferrari any day❤❤❤
I know it’s not just about power but you could easily get a stage 1 tune on your 720S.
I'd like someone to actually do a bill of materials analysis to explain why those options need to be so expensive. Front camera 2000 pound. Really? Web cam and a bit of plastic housing? Some of those options seem very overpriced.
296 GTB wins this "duell " ... 💪
Far too many long adverts spoils this video!
Ferrari is in hypercar territory with its performance. Mclaren, has all the power but not really usable. It could literaly have 200horses less and it wouldnt be noticable on the road
I am just more attracted to the McLaren here, I love my engine sounds but both are amazing!
And I don't know WHO decided to give all the European Magzines this ABSOLUTELY HORRID livery 💀 I don't care about Maranello's Heritage (Allegedly that's where this light blue + red colour combination comes from) this is really bad looking. (But the 296 is still amazing looking overall beneath all of this)
296 is the best supercar currently.
Performance is immense but the styling is iffy BEFORE you factor these horrendous blue bits. Blue should never be used on wheels or interior.
@@cw205mi16 Styling is subjective and I am not bothered by views of other random people without credibility. Someone like Frank Stephenson gave the design 8.9/10 and it's more than enough for me. The livery is a heritage livery and the car can be easily specified with a different paint scheme!
@@_AmarjitSinghWas he including the blue wheels? You just said styling is subjective but needed the validation from a designer to tell you it is. Respectfully you're equally just as random of course with an equally subjective view. It doesn't even look good in a traditional or left field way, it just looks like a badly modified car. All red would look much better though, a proper wheel colour and no baby blue inside.
@@cw205mi16 I did say styling is subjective but I would rather hear about a design and any criticisms on it from a credible designer. Did I say anything about the style that you are saying it's subjective, no lol! And nobody rates a design based on a paint scheme!
@@cw205mi16 You're just going by the livery to judge a car and that should never happen because what you're disliking can be of sentimental value to someone else, judge the car without going into subjective aspects!
Only English men can prefer the 750s to 296gts. Sorry but this is true.
2nd best is best this time around, I’m with Harry Metcalfe on the justifications why the McLaren is preferable.
Interestingly other testers have come to the opposite conclusion...
The option pricing on both of these cars, is just stupid!😮 Ferrari floor mats, $3000 dollars! Their nice cars, but the option prices really get to a point where you know the manufacturers are saying, "let's see how much we can take these fools for?"
That spec on the Ferrari is just awful.
That blue looks like masking tape to stop stone chips
Seen both of these cars in the metal - the curves of the 750s are works of art, the paint job of the Ferrari hurts the eyes, it's terrible. The Ferrari sounds good but the 750s sounds brutal
Get a 911 Turbo S. In practical terms in the real world just as fast, won’t fall apart or need repainting, you won’t have to excuse crap failures as “character”, and you won’t be the sort of person who owns a Ferrari. Winning all round, really.
Ferrari.
Whoever spec’d that 296GTB needs to be in jail…
I bought both cars ...
V8 ❤
750s is mega. Softer ride of 720s combined with shorter gearing of the 765LT. Hydraulic steering. Carbon tub. Race derived V8. 😍
id rather have a ferrari 812 GTS over both. drop top NA screamer 12 cyl with 800hp
Unbelievably gorgeous cars. Not a 2018 white For KA, though.
V6. No way.
Stupid
What a strange horsepowers you are using? 819 instead of 830, 740 instead of 750 (logically if we’re talking about 750S, right?)
We’re using bhp, rather than hp/ps.
Ferrari gave Porsche a real wake up call with the 296… the GT3 RS was the bar for so long. Porsche engineers have been resting on their laurels for so long. Let’s bring it 👊
Now go and watch the review by Harry's Garage
Now test the spiders! McLaren will win hands down. The benefit of the carbon tub. If you could afford 2, you would have the 296 GTB and the 750S as a spider...
Remember, the v8 McLaren uses, it all started from a Nissan engine
I am a Ferrari fan. But this review seems biased, to me. You did not drive the 750S in track mode, at all. This is where this car really shines.
That Ferrari paint job is an atrocity, get rid of the 120k in options and you have a perfect car.
Most drivers can’t use a car w. +450 bhp. But in a straight line any idiot can floor a 700 bhp car.
Still don't understand why McLaren doesn't have their own dedicated F1engine.
Because they don’t have $500M to spend….
@@09juliancarr $500M might barely cover the consulting costs...
Yep! I meant to add per annum!!!!
They technically don't even have "their own" road-car engine either. If (and that's a big IF) I recall correctly, their current twin-turbo 4.0 is based on a 3.8, which is based on a Nissan's 3.5 from 390R. Or something along those lines...
I think that the answer to that is that McLaren are racecar and now road car builders and not engine builders and as @dl5270 mentioned the current road car engine is based off a Nissan R390 LeMans race engine from the late Nighties.
The 296 specifically goes up against the McLaren Artura not the 750s 😂
No it doesn't. In the US it costs a little more than the 750 and 100k more than the artura.
McLaren has cliff plummet depreciation, terrible reliability and build quality. No contest. Ferrari wins on everything.
Weve had 3 mclarens with less build quality issues than our 1 ferrari. 99 percent of owners I speak to will say the same. The internet dramaticizes everything
“I don’t feel the extra weight of 296…” because you were driving them like a sedan.
🤦🏻😂🤫
McLaren
First it was the V12 that was old school , now it's the V8 , soon a 3 cylinder ICE will be the old school option, why the hell we are going backwards in every aspect of life.
Who in their right mind would pay for that blue paint on the ferrari?
This is the ugliest Ferrari spec I’ve ever seen. 296 isn’t exactly a stunner, but yuck, this blue and red scheme is just shit.
its 2024, and putting a turbo on a car is a special thing? 15 yrs too late mate
I take Ferrari and I love the paint.I don't care what anybody says
100% the mclaren
Erm, id take a 458 Speciale and 675LT please, you can keep the latest duo, feels like cars are going backwards from the the last decade
Great vid! 👍 I have a 600LT and recently had a 296 for a week. The LT is in a different league as a drivers car and feels faster than the 296 due to the way it delivers its power. You just can’t beat mclaren for how they drive. But quality wise the 296 is in a different league and I still want one.
Not sure how you preferred drive by wire braking and steering in the 296 though…
Feels faster? In what way? The Ferrari is so much faster in a straight line. It has also been proven on the track.
@@skudaaron1986 that’s why I said ‘feels’ faster. I know it’s not but big turbo cars always feel quicker due to how they deliver power in a big hit. Depends what you prefer but the 296 didn’t feel like it had over 800bhp to me.
Sorry to partly disagree with you, the 296 is the one that's in a different league whether as a driver's car or as a daily driven car. The 296 not only feels faster but is actually faster in reality, 296 easily beats the McLaren for driveability. The hybrid system in the 296 is the most sorted out performance hybrid system that's available currently. I agree on the quality though!
@@_AmarjitSingh no probs with disagreement! If you’ve driven both and that’s your view then all good 👍👍 I’ve owned a lot of cars and actively compete in racing and I still say the Mclaren is by far a more engaging car to drive.
@@MarkB4444Big turbo? They are small. The 296 has turbo plus the kick of the electric system. It can keep up with a SF90 which has 1000hp. I'm sorry but I'm not sure if you have even driven one.
Harry's Garage review had more detail ,made more sense, the McLaren is the better of the two cars on road and track.
Can't say either car is good looking, with the Ferrari's hideous rear and the McLarens ugly headlights.
McLaren FTW
That mclaren looks ridiculous holy sh