FERRARI 296 GTB - Was I WRONG? Will THIS Convert me to a Hybrid Supercar Future? | TheCarGuys.tv
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This week, the very latest state-of-the-art Ferrari - the latest 296 GTB. An 818 BHP hybrid missile, the first V6 Ferrari since the Dino, and the car that YOU have wanted us to drive the most.
So it must be a new episode of our long-running series #DriveEveryFerrari, and it’s a feature-length episode that will take you on a forensic tour of this incredible new supercar and its full electric mode.
The history, the technology, the exterior design, its special features, the Assetto Fiorano pack, the interior, the engine, and of course, what it’s like to drive?
What is it like to drive an electric Ferrari on the road? What’s the transition like between petrol and full eDrive? How quick is it? Does it feel heavy or compromised due to the hybrid system? What’s the design like compared to the Pista? What’s it like compared to the McLaren Artura?
And perhaps most importantly, can the 296 possibly convert us to a hybrid Ferrari future?
All these questions and more will be answered in this week’s episode.
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It's the best of both worlds honestly, the 296 is already legendary having won the nurburgring 24 hours as well as the same engine winning the lemans 24 hours , there is a reason most people see it as the best Ferrari on sale today only drawbacks being the Ferrari ui in the infotainment.
Ferrari had used a very un efficient battery pack in it also in sf90,energy density is only 106 wh/kg in pack which means battery weighs 75 kg according to ferrari it self,catl announced new condensed matter semi solid state battery with 450 wh/kg in pack,that means if they had used 10kwh pack which is 2.1 kwh more than current pack but it will weigh less than 25 kg,i hope ferrari wonderful engineers solve it for at least 50 kg weight savings,but ferrari has done an amazing job with sf90 and 296 gtb hybrid system,sf90 has 3 e motors but all 3 of them weighs 34 kg in totall which is 1 kg lighter than 1 e motor in legendary p1,let me amaze you with e motor in 296 gtb, it only and only weighs 8 kg thats f1 class category,only not very good thing in hybrid ferraris is the battery pack i hope it'll be solved very soon ,
@@davidfujkk8018 There's only ~7KWh on board. More range w/b nice, but power density (~ 8KW/KWh of storage) was likely the target in assisting up above 800HP. Very high, short duration discharge rates (C-rates).
Are we at the times, yet, when ICE people go into a pretzel trying to defend combustion as "luxury". Sounds like our narrator is coming out of a cave.
I have two sf90. Stradale 2021 and spider 2023. A big difference I noticed is actually the steering wheel where they changed it in the 2023 so that you can't accidentally hit the haptic buttons. You have to press in the middle of the navigation button to the right to wake up all haptic buttons. Such a big relief I must say. Feels like a software change which they probably will roll out to older models and 296.
What I love about this engine is the lovely tone of the sound.
I'm not into loud engine sounds,
Its the quality that counts,
And this car has that quality.
I really do think Ferrari have hit a new peak with the 296, personally I love the looks, especially the rear, but that’s the beauty of opinions as you say. I’ve not gone for AF pack or stripe on my GTS and cant wait.
Have you driven a 296 without the AF pack vs. AF? The whole throttle mapping makes the AF pack a must. If you haven't gone Red 10 and haven't tested both, do it, especially if you have driven an AF car but on one without .
I’ve never understood the dislike for a V6. They’ve always sounded miles better than V8’s imo. And they’re lighter and more unique.
Yes I think the same way 👍
I took delivery of my GTS this week. The car has really blown me away. I agree re the AF pack, I think the stripes look a bit naff on a non special edition Ferrari. The info I find difficult to navigate whilst driving. Otherwise the engine and chassis are sublime. I too had concerns about the rear end but in the right spec (suits metallic colours) the 296 is stunning in the flesh. Nice video. Re the price, i agree they are punchy but across all manufacturers it's a similar story.
Definitely is one of the best modern Ferraris. The looks are on point, the power train is incredible and sounds like their V12s and crazy performance numbers.
Go and drive one. It is far from perfect.
Imagine a lightweight version with all the hybrid nonsense stripped out saving 300kg+ You could call it a Dino and charge at least £60k less. I'd buy that
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What do you compare that to? Because I was utterly disappointed by the turbo lag, the lazy throttle, the numb steering and the busy suspension.
I'll stick to my SF90 and F8.
Another brilliant review. Love how you really get down to the nuts and bolts of the driving experience. Nice one Damian!
Thank you, my friend
Great video, Having driven both the fiorano and none fiorano at varano, I totally agree with you, the fiorano pack didn’t feel like a huge difference, it actually made me appreciate the standard car more. Almost pulled the trigger on a GTS but the 2 year wait put me off.
Thanks for sharing!
That is so interesting.
I felt a huge difference. While both the non AF and AF cars suffer from the steering with very little feedback, the throttle response of the AF car is totally different. I have tested three 296's GTS, GTS AF, and GTB AF. I was so disappointed by the non-AF car. While they all have a somewhat lazy throttle mapping, the non-AF car is really bad in this regard. If you punch it below 5500 rpm, nothing happens. Even with ESC OFF, it's really hard to break the tyres loose in anything but first gear compared to an F8 or SF90. It really lacks the instant throttle response of the F8 and SF90 where it will break loose at anything under 120 km/h. Not sure what the hybrid system is doing, because I don't find it very noticeable with very little in terms of torque fill.
Aside from that, I find the normal suspension a bit too busy, where the AF while being firmer, is more planted and smoother. And lastly, the seats. If you don't spec the race seats, you sit way too high.
After three track days, about 1500 km in the 296, I have cancelled my GTS AF order. From an actual drivers perspective, it feels way too entry level - not talking price. It is not wild enough and way too easy to drive. I miss the feeling of stepping on a bomb when I mat it and just do not get that thrill at all. Sticking to my SF90 and F8.
Saw one in the flesh a while ago,it was in a beautiful deep red and i was blown away at how good it looked, it seems like the only thing that lets it down is the is the finicky electronics in the cab
It would be awesome if ferrari made another modle that was a real lightweight small dino just using this motor only ,and an interior with all buttons toggles and twisty knobby thingys😅
Looking trim Damian🤙
I wasn't a fan of the looks of the 296 when it was revealed, but it's after really growing on me. Hate boring silver cars, but I would spec a non assetto fiorano, in grigio alloy colour , with silver wheels 👌
Also, I reckon you'd get used to the haptic controls after a while. Them door handles look a disaster though, but they look gorgeous.
It's a shame they didn't give us a option of having a it non hybrid or hybrid. I think there would be a market for a cheaper non hybrid model.
Even a low volume maker like Ferrari has to comply with emissions controls, hence hybrid only. Ditto Lamborghini. Deal with it and move on.
@@MohsinWadee I know. I get it it's just a shame as I thinker a lighter focused 296 even with less power could be the best car they've made in years.
The non hybrid version is called the MC20
@@addj7093that ironically weighs even MORE than the hybrid 296 despite not having a battery pack and being a carbon fiber chassis versus the 296’s aluminum 🤔
@@jameswillard1 it would be nice to be on the market for either! Haha
Great job as always. Also a thumbs up on the tech call-out segments you use in many of your productions. I love 'em, and I don't think many creators on YT use them.
For enthusiasts and really any detail nerd with knowledge of the subject matter the call outs really add a lot of relevant info in a short period of time. And the graphics and overlay animations are slick.
I've been watching off and on for a couple years and you're a staple along with the other auto yt journalists.
Thanks for the efforts and the great info is appreciated. 🙏
Thank you, Stefan - much appreciated.
I think the shade of Grigio highlights its worst features - the Gummy front end and the somewhat American rear. It's been designed by a committee.
Yep, group decision making and consensus driven design, it's just bland comparing to 458/88.
Another extremely well thought out review, thanks for sharing your thoughts on the 296. I had the opportunity to drive one last year and share a lot of your feelings towards it. I think Ferrari did a brilliant job merging the traditional internal combustion engine and electric motor. If you look at cars like the 296 and SF90 as internal combustion engines with an electric boost engine for added performance, instead of the cars as eco-driven hybrids they actually make sense. I think it was a great design decision by Ferrari to include reverse flow cylinders heads as that combined with the exhaust layout make the 296 sound like a mini V12 instead of a V6. The seats are my favorite part of the interior, they look futuristic and are incredibly comfortable at the same time, that said, the all digital approach and insane amount of tech is a huge turnoff for me, but I understand why that is the direction Ferrari is headed. For that I will stick with the opinion the 458 Italia is the pinnacle of all that is Ferrari. And as fast as the 296 is, I don't see it really as someone's primary or only Ferrari. For me it feels more like someone's 4th or 5th Ferrari they have in their stable. I also look at all of these hybrid Ferarris as something you own for maybe the first 5 years since production and then move on before the maintenance plan is up. Battery costs and future tech failures I expect to make these a challenge to keep on the road for the long haul. We're already seeing issues with the La Ferrari and the batteries in it. Sure that car is a decade old now, but the battery tech hasn't made the leap yet to have it not be a problem.
Great comments, thanks
Damien is in Ferrari nirvana in this run down on the 296GTB. He did a great wrap of the car and discusses it highs and lows. The car has outrageous performance. More than you can actually employ legally on the road. I took one fur a test drive earlier this year and loved its combination of power trains. But the haptic controls were a nightmare. The car kept talking to you and we couldn't understand why until we realised I was brushing them unknowingly. But I guess you could get used to them. Fabulous noise..a great car, but as Damien says, stupidly expensive at over $700k with options in Oz. Yet they are sold out. Rocking that PP Damien.
Wow! this is one of the best car reviews I´ve seen, you just killed it! Amazing work. Congrats!
Thank you, Jonas
Very finicky cockpit, but looks far better than the SF90, and I love the idea of a tiny Ferrari which could be a rally car Al la Lancia Stratos.
Another fantastic episode Damian. One of your best yet. I love the 296 GTB too. I got to enjoy 30+ miles in one around some amazing Scottish A roads during a local dealership event last year. Annoyingly - it sounded and handled better than my Pista - BUT in saying that, I'd still choose my Pista over it any day of the week. The 296 GTB is very pretty, but a little tame and a bit wonky in some areas by comparison (in my subjective opinion of course). I still prefer the dramatic aggressive elegance of the Pista - but I'm curious to see if a special edition of the 296 GTB can bring me around on the styling. Until then I've got nothing but total admiration for the 296 GTB. What a car!
Awesome comments, thanks
Update: 10 months later I've sold my beloved Pista - and wait for it… I'm now looking for the right pre-owned 296 GTB now they've come down in price. Heck, I might even spring for a GTS. There's something about that 296 test drive in 2022 that stuck with me and after a good few local dealership visits to spend some more time with the design of the 296, I'm now totally sold on it. It's gorgeous. I've watched this video a few times and your reaction at 30:54 and 31:22 is basically my own reaction from 2022. I may return to a Pista in years to come, but for now I'm excited to throw a 296 around some back roads this summer. The performance. The handling. The sound. My goodness, it's the complete package. I can't wait.
I was one of unwashed masses that requested this review. And what a review it was, a terrific review, such a rollercoaster....I like the way that its seem you are going to pan the car but the car seduces you and you end up loving it. I continue to love your work. Thank you and Gold star awarded.
Much appreciated, Myron 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That Patek though
I'm such a Pininfarina guy! The design and engineering of those cars are so iconic and memorable.. My personal opinion is I wouldn't want one because it doesn't move me emotionally.. To me they fell off designing the rear of their cars. Love the cars that when you see them it's instant love and I don't get that from that one. The SF90 I like more, but the hybrid system takes away a visceral feel that we all love in our cars. I'm waiting on this new fuel that is in the works. That works out, these hybrids will be at the wasteside of expense..
This exactly!
Hmm, cross shopping for a hybrid... this or the new Prius? Can't decide...
Thanx for such a Thorough and great review. I too, am now obsessed with the 296.
Thanks for watching!
Stealth Ferrari “Funeral” mode 😂😂😂😂
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3 Epics and a Benchmark! Woof!
Thanks again for the great audio quality of your videos.
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I found the car spot-on from the very first looks! How they went back to basics while at the same time innovating! A brilliant design really!
Glad you liked it!
Damian licking his wounds as he enters the cockpit 😂😂
Hey Damien, nice Video as always.. and a very nice 5712 1R! ❤Thanks for sharing these beauties!
My pleasure!
Hey Damon- How much quicker does it feel than your Pista Aperta? ….like a bit quicker or a lot faster? I knew it would be quick but that CarWow video of it keeping pace with a Mclaren 765LT was rather eye opening (unless perhaps the 765 wasn’t making full power)
Totally different cars. The Pista may not be as fast, but from a driving engagement standpoint, the Pista is in a league above.
The steering in the 296 is very numb with very little feedback. The throttle response is incredibly lazy. Flooring a Pista is like stepping on a bomb at pretty much any speed, while the 296 is not very wild at all. It is actually hard to break the tyres loose in anything but first gear.
It feels very "entry level" from a drivers perspective. Not very wild and sedate to drive. They have the hybrid system, but you would not believe the turbo lag below 5500 rpm.
I say this as a Pista and Pista Spider owner. I had a GTS AF car on order, but after having driven a GTB AF, GTS AF and regular GTS, I cancelled my order.
Great video, interesting to see this car in-depth as you took it.
Glad you liked it!
I’ve tracked one of these and can confirm it is a phenomenal car. The engine and overall power delivery are sublime. It’s a genuinely impressive car with a V6 sound track to die for.
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Have you driven one on the road? It work in AF form on track, but the throttle mapping is so lazy on the road, and the hybrid system is nowhere near capable of hiding the turbo lag. Not sure how you can say the power delivery is sublime, because unlike the 488, F8 or SF90, the throttle response is incredibly lazy.
Excellent review!!! I really like it tbh, a bit too much plastic but looks like lots of fun to drive. btw 15:46, watch that nail in the tyre mate! :D
This is it - ordered my GTS last November and can't wait to get it on the road.
Thx a lot for this brlliant review which even enhances my desire to finally drive it.
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Congratulations on crossing 100K subscribers, another great review. I’m with you on the electric car seen. I think hybrid is the next move.
I happen to think the design is fantastic. Somewhat understated yet cool, curvaceous and techy. And I love the backend, a nice evolution of the classic Ferrari side buttresses, kamm back and cool quad taillights.
The v6 of this car is already Legend imho. Im from emilia romagna so i know how strange is to have a Ferrari not v8 or v12... but this is an amazing car
Hybrid > electric. At least you still have the sporty sound (and it sound good this v6!)
Rumor has it that a more aggressive version called a GTO is on the books
It was quite the moment watching your mind get changed right then and there in the cockpit…I cannot wait until you spec out a 296 for yourself, Damian!
I love the 296 because it does have cues of Dino and 250LM…two of my top 5 Ferrari models…
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Finally got to drive one yesterday at the Ferrari Experience day in Italy at Monza, on the track and I can say it’s absolutely amazing…
Blindingly quick.
I used the electric mode when I did a tour around the track afterwards and I was so blown away with the weirdness of it all. But as you mentioned, it does make sense in that I could sneak out of my garage and not wake up my family or the neighbors like I always do with the analog Ferraris…
And it’s awful lot of €€€ though…
Geez…
Like it a lot, the GT-3 version in FXX style livery is so pretty. In this color the fiorano packet actually looks nice
Wow - wasn’t expecting that from you Damian! I’m quite impressed with this, it sounds way better than the F8 Tributo (I know, not that hard 😉, but still). Looks great, especially in side profile and the smaller size makes a lot of sense. I don’t like the haptic switches (in any car - Golf R anyone 🤷🏻♂️) and I don’t like the anchor like stripe (so they can shove their £14k ask for that 😂). As others have said, best of both worlds actually seems possible here 👍
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The significance of the 296 is that it has won a major event the 24h at the Nordschleife. The "same" powertrain in the 499P won outright the LM24h.
This contrasts with some GTOs (288 or 599) have zero race pedigree even if such details do not discourage "collectors". (Note to D, the 599 series cannot be considered worthy of attention).
Correct suggestion about the rear air intakes. These are weirdly proportioned. The carbon exterior bits are unnecessary (other to keep up with Halford equipped rivals from Ford) and the paint job is very tacky.
Great review, illuminating, awesome perspectives by others here
Much appreciated!
Went into more detail than most and refreshingly honest. Thanks for the review!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mate..still the most entertaining vlog Damian...and good to see you either getting down to middleweight...or perhaps a five-eight....keep up the good work mate....you will get to a million subs
Great review! Damian discovers how electric power makes supercar owners more friendly and respectful.
Interesting you mention the door button, there was a gumball racer in one of these at Edinburgh that couldn’t take part on Sunday because his driver door wouldn’t ‘engage’
Interesting
not got my 512bbi yet but glad I ordered a 296 to replace my F8- fantastic review..
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Ferrari have finally pipped the 458 with the 296, bravo
Great video. Think it's time to ask Meridian Modena to let you do another 'my spec' video on this car. You didn't say whether it would belong in your garage 🤔
I bought my i8 roadster because I felt it was one of the most interesting cars I had ever driven...then I drove the 296...without doubt THE BEST CAR I HAVE EVER DRIVEN..Great review
Thanks, Steve
Best review yet, my kind of input. Great job!
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video thank you and lovely car, pity the controls are not physical buttons. Has your order gone in? 😂
I dont know what you said previously about the 296. But its brilliant, innit!
Hi Damian - love the boss Patek Philippe Nautilus in Rose Gold worth almost as much as the Ferrari! 😂
Great car and I like your tongue in cheek, slightly sarcastic, realistic, and sometimes fanboy approach!
I appreciate that!
Sat in a 296 gtb and went for a test drive. Wonderful and crazy fast car but its no 458, 488 or F8 for looks even though its stunning and wide and low. A beautiful ferrari still but a B+ grade as opposed to A*
I am waiting for mine!!!! Should take delivery in about 3 years!!!! I can hardly wait!!!!
Wow. amazing. My friend just bought the near new red one from meridien Modena. It’s awesome in the flesh. He won’t let me drive it though. Yet….. hate that fiorano stripe! On this and the sf90
The best exterior Ferrari design (bar the cheap looking rear exhaust and lights) since the 458…just not with that Asseto Fiorano design stripe….keep it simple 😃..your Pista will always be a gem 👍👍….so right re all the silly Haptic buttons and tech..the door buttons…the lawn mower whirrring 😂😂
Fascinating, thanks. Seems it’s a great car. Thanks for the open review.
You’re most welcome, Steffy
That thing sounds outstanding... Petrol power though the twisty roads then stealth electric mode to pull up to the dogging spot
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Ferrari is fulfilling Marchionne's plans for Alfa with electric motors assisting the engine and adding to the sportiness rather than detracting from it. Hybrids work with decent engines but struggle when mated to weedy 1.4s and the like. You can still enjoy driving the 296 unlike a fully electric car where there is nothing to do and you just sit there like a knob.
I wonder if the car designers actually do drive & live with these cars for a while. I mean, what on earth is that door handle design & functionality. Anyways, only discovered this channel yesterday & got addicted with the no nonsense review style of the presenter.
Much appreciated, my friend
A lovely car, but those door handles and the ludicrous and needless complexity of the controls in the cabin really put me off. I want a car that's simple to drive, not one which requires a computer science degree to use. Oh, and having no manual door release is a death-trap waiting to happen.
The rear looks like Predator and Kevin Bacon had a love child.
those door handles (or holes) would remind me of agressive bedroom incidents every time i get in the car.
I passed on a 296 GTS. I’m still a 458 Spider guy or a 991.2 anything.
Great vid as usual. Did it surprise you as much as the 599 GTO?
Yes it did, I was prepared to hate it
This car is a beautiful thing. I´m loving the new Ferrari design approach with rounded and voluptious curves.
Great review 👍🏻
Thanks! 👍
Lovely. Sounds amazing!👌🤌
Great review, well done Sir
Thank you kindly
Great video cheers 👍👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
Imagine a revised 296 with buttons, switches and dials for revs, oil, temp, a/c, seats, e-manettino and the screen reserved for just nav and car settings. And no haptics on the steering wheel. What a car that would be…..
honda NSX did this in 2016! again, way ahead of its time. now ferrari, lambo, mcclaren all copying what the nsx achieved nearly 10 years ago and it doesnt get the credit it deserves
Great review and it sounds like a Ferrari which is great. P.S you look slimmer to me our is that my imagination. Thanks for the video.
It’s not your imagination
I’ve driven it and yes it much better than the Roma and it’s very fast … I am simply not a fan of the hybrid I prefer the linear power of internal combustion plus the new wheel and electric switches are uncomfortable prone to errors
Looks the biz, sounds the biz and goes like the biz too. So what’s not to like? Erm… well… quite a few thing actually… such a shame because they could have nailed it first time. That look on your face though in beanidge mode was priceless, as was the scenery blur from the outside camera 🚀
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Great review Damian.
Glad you enjoyed it
Good review Damian
Not a fan of the 296 styling I'll admit, goes for alot of new Ferrari's sadly.
Love the colour scheme. It really improves the lines and looks stunning
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Damien, it is not correct that the non-AF pack is identical in the engine. The throttle mapping is totally different. The non-AF car is so laggy and lazy in the throttle response you won't believe it. The worst thing I think, is that both the AF and non-AF car suffers from the same numb steering with next to no feedback.
Delighted the future looks brighter and brighter with every hybrid launch!
Try the 296 without the Fiorano pack. Bumpy road mode!! And drop all the external carbon = 15% more than an F8. Measured like that its actually good value. Its a Wonderful machine.
To be honest I was checking your watch more than the car it's a wonderful watch.
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Kudos on the review! As a collector, I didn’t love this car when seen in the flesh at the private reveal. However, it’s grown on me and I have a GTS on order. I’m keen to compare it with my SF90 AF spider. Fast forward a few years and I expect a 296 VS to be sitting along side my SF90 XX…before PHEV falls victim to the climate change hoax.
Have you driven a non-AF GTS, or a 296 at all? I was so disappointed that I cancelled my order. I'm sticking to my SF90 and F8, and will see what the 296 VS will bring in 2025. Hopefully they can get rid of the laggy and lazy throttle response and get rid of the numb steering.
What a great and unbiased review. It's really easy as car enthusiasts for us to resist change and scoff at the next new thing because as people we're naturally change averse. Seems like a phenomenal driving experience.
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I love seeing you drive these kind of fantastic cars around my home town, my twelve year old self would have wet myself with excitement.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent revue. There are 33 of them for sale, on the Ferrari website. I suspect the GTS has caused a bit of procrastination. I wonder how much the used ones are fetching? I note that they are all "POA".
LOVE your words and I have one on order!!!!
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Ferrari won 24h of Nurburgring for the first time ever with this car, so it probably is the best Ferrari ever. And probably will last. Can't wait to see your face in the next episode when you sit in an old one. BTW, nice video again.
Damian - Love the watch pairing for this video.
Hoping Novitec can do their own version, with interior upgrades and a new rear end.
I’m conflicted by the 296. Awesome powertrain. Great body. Terrible haptic garbage on the inside. Ridiculous price. I don’t get it. Why make the best car in the world and then ruin it with a terrible human machine interface? Plus - this makes a McLaren Arthur seem like a total bargain…
great video! could not disagree more on the assessment of the rear styling or the comparison to the corvette's back end. I wish they had done something different with the headlights. Ferrari has hits and misses but at least they try unlike porsche and mclaren and aston.
Very good!
Glad you think so!
I ordered Artura, first it sounds better to me, second it looks much better especially in the back. Handling is better in 296, but whoever considers a track car there are far better options and all of them without batteries.
Let me know what you think of it. I didn't get on with it.