The Forgotten Gundam 00 Games (Retrospective)

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  • @morepenguins6247
    @morepenguins6247 4 дні тому +138

    These games clearly turn you into a Gundam in real life

    • @pauluhliar6838
      @pauluhliar6838 4 дні тому +4

      I AM GUNDAM! I will eliminate all twistedness from this world...

    • @supbro4964
      @supbro4964 4 дні тому

      No
      If you wanna turn into the real Gundamn just play the PS2 Game GSDRVSZAFT2PLUS
      Finish all the EX Route

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@pauluhliar6838 Time to perform armed interventions!

  • @shauqiharris2772
    @shauqiharris2772 4 дні тому +82

    Gundam 00 came out 17 years ago but the animation aged very well even today.

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese 4 дні тому +14

      Unlike Seed, where the HD version just makes the constant style changes and art flaws even more apparent and worse because the redrawn for HD scenes are so blatantly out of place (There's a point in the *first episode* where the artstyle changes four times in a minute. That's on par with Shinkyoku Soukai Polyphonica's car chase in QUALITY.).

    • @secretasianman108
      @secretasianman108 3 дні тому +5

      They knew how and where to allocate time and budget. There's a lot of scenes in the first season where characters are suspiciously still while exchanging dialogue. Only 2 frames needed. That's not an uncommon ahortcut, even today, I just remember finding it really obvious in 00's case, because Sunrise had also put out Code Geass a few months prior, and that felt comparatively more dynamic.

    • @nirvash241
      @nirvash241 День тому

      @@secretasianman108 basically ufotable trademark

  • @khoreybrown4349
    @khoreybrown4349 4 дні тому +76

    As a lover of the 00 it’s a shame. I wish that someone could do that Zone of the Enders style gameplay well.

  • @ramkindalethal5253
    @ramkindalethal5253 4 дні тому +38

    10:51 ngl I was playing your video in picture in picture while playing nikke. I can say it was a very surreal experience

    • @kakarot197
      @kakarot197  4 дні тому +8

      Please don't get a mind switch

    • @mysetlist2118
      @mysetlist2118 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@kakarot197i might after seeing the story for this event and part 2 isn't even out yet

    • @kakarot197
      @kakarot197  4 дні тому +7

      @@mysetlist2118 Yeah, but at least we're finally getting SSR Rapi

    • @mysetlist2118
      @mysetlist2118 4 дні тому +2

      @@kakarot197 true btw I'm hoping if u see this again is there any place I can find crossbone gundam manga translated i got all the way up to ghost some time ago but they weren't translated?

  • @joutakujo2366
    @joutakujo2366 4 дні тому +31

    Heres to hoping we get more 00 content from you in the future

  • @JYMBO
    @JYMBO 4 дні тому +10

    I decided to watch 00 earlier this year and it turned out to be my favourite gundam series so far! it looked super dated at first but it improves seemingly every few episodes until it's brought up to date with the second season!

    • @g555ulgra4
      @g555ulgra4 3 дні тому

      LOL for some reason I'm excited.
      You finished with 00 yet?

  • @dealpha3698
    @dealpha3698 4 дні тому +12

    00 is my fav Gundam series so far beside Victory and Zeta gonna check the game thanks....

  • @MikhailKutzow
    @MikhailKutzow 4 дні тому +9

    Man, that DS game looks insanely good for the console it's on. I do enjoy retro games and seeing how devs push the tech, and that may be one of the best-looking DS games I've seen.

  • @jammo7370
    @jammo7370 4 дні тому +6

    00 is old enough to vote and drink in most countries next year, crazy

  • @Matanumi
    @Matanumi 4 дні тому +4

    Man I loved DS 00.
    It was incredible for its time and it was awesome on the DS.
    I wish they did more with the game
    Sound track was amazing too
    5:28 the boss tune! So badass! Can't believe this was it's own OST

  • @MaddJakd
    @MaddJakd 4 дні тому +10

    Something definitely is up when the Dynasty Warriors Gundam games and 90% of the other crossovers are consistently among the best console outings for the franchise, yet their own dedicated entries vary HARD!
    And always look a generation or 2 dated upon release

    • @whiteraven1992
      @whiteraven1992 3 дні тому +1

      Which does make me wonder why there's still no plans for a new Gundam Musou more than a decade after Reborn.
      The potential for expanding the roster of Pilots/MS is *_massive_* now!!

    • @MaddJakd
      @MaddJakd 3 дні тому +1

      @whiteraven1992 Literally call it "Reborn"
      Release it on the PS3 after the PS4 has been out for a bit (PSN exclusive at that)
      Musou goes dark for a bit.
      It does sound like things have been shakey over there at Bandia's gaming side though 🤔

    • @whiteraven1992
      @whiteraven1992 3 дні тому +1

      @@MaddJakd Yeah... and there's so much [besides the playable roster] that I'd want such a hypothetical next game to expand upon; including the reintroduction of features from previous games that really shouldn't have been removed. :P

  • @jca7200
    @jca7200 4 дні тому +10

    I know it's technically not a 00 game but the 00 campaign mode in the Gundam PSP game was also very good

    • @AusSP
      @AusSP 3 дні тому

      What PSP game?

  • @skyking935
    @skyking935 4 дні тому +11

    Happy new year! To all my ace pilot's l!

  • @ksavx2119
    @ksavx2119 4 дні тому +4

    So far the first and only gundam anime i watched was 00 and i dont think any other will come near it for me. I would love a modern game for the series

  • @twelfthknight
    @twelfthknight 4 дні тому +12

    Bandai Namco had a strong framework for on-rails third-person shooter Gundam games with Encounters in Space, they could've just kept reusing that engine - preferably with further refinements - until the end of that console's life-cycle. I mean, they used it for SEED, they could've kept going into 00.

    • @cnhnx
      @cnhnx 4 дні тому +1

      Bandai Namco (or just Bandai at the time) is a publisher and used multiple different developers for their Gundam game, even on the same platform. Like how Federation VS Zeon was actually developed by Capcom. That is why we have vastly different quality among Gundam games, each with their own engine and interpretation. It's not as simple as one team in Bandai making all gundam games.

    • @twelfthknight
      @twelfthknight 3 дні тому

      @@cnhnx That is true. However, in this case Encounters in Space was developed by Bandai's own BEC studio - which would make the Gundam 00 DS game described here - and, yeah, they could've made them a product treadmill like other developers out there most certainly do with their main IPs. Which Gundam presumably is in Bandai's mind.
      Though even just looking at Yukes - of wrestling game fame - who developed the 00 PS2 game, they also made the substantially better Votoms PS2 game just a year before, so why they had to make the 00 game a Cookie Clicker is beyond me.

  • @DankRedditMemes
    @DankRedditMemes 3 дні тому +4

    "When it comes to forgotten games, often times they're forgotten for a good reason" *Shows Virtual Hydlide*
    Me: *watches a streamer that used to speedrun Virtual Hydlide, only stopping because he dominated every category*

  • @DragonicFang
    @DragonicFang 3 дні тому +3

    Lmao, Nikke insert out of the left field was awesome. 😂 Cinderella of all nikke.

    • @axelded13
      @axelded13 День тому +1

      snow white would have been a direct gundam reference since she is based on gundam wing snow white that has seven dwarfs

    • @radiantansel202
      @radiantansel202 14 годин тому

      Nikke fans can't stop yelling about their IP I swear

  • @RayShadow278
    @RayShadow278 3 дні тому +2

    The DS game is what pushed me to becoming the Gundam fan I am today lol, it really was a great little game

  • @Gingerred-MX
    @Gingerred-MX 4 дні тому +1

    1:20 those graphics still blow me away that style is getting a resurgence with indie devs and im so happy to see it

  • @heavyarms55
    @heavyarms55 4 дні тому +2

    I would have been all over that Gundam game on DS at the time! What the hell! I wish we got this!

  • @Tokumastu1
    @Tokumastu1 4 дні тому +5

    Wha hurts the most about the visual look of the PS2 game is that Armored Core gens 2 & 3 showed how to have good visual designs for mech games all throughout the PS2 era.

  • @DelphinSquared
    @DelphinSquared 3 дні тому

    Gundam 00 for the DS reminds me of the one PlayStation 1 game that had the similar third person perspective in a 3D arena setting, except you get to go 2-player versus modes. It stands out to me cos I remember playing against my cousin who uses a Gundam I thought looked like the Strike Gundam.

  • @aegir5198
    @aegir5198 3 дні тому +1

    There are two types of old gundam games: those who treat any projectile, including bullets and beam shots, like it's a missile. And those whose auto aim leads the shot.

  • @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjensen111
    @Smitty_Werbenjagermanjensen111 4 дні тому +2

    I ordered a copy of gundam rengou vs zaft 2 plus a few days ago and can’t wait to try it out 😁.

  • @MrMechaMan
    @MrMechaMan 4 дні тому +4

    Ayyyyy the Gundam 00 Gundam Meister! my favourite video game!!

  • @Brawler_1337
    @Brawler_1337 4 дні тому +1

    If you’re talking about retro Gundam games, you gotta talk about MS Sensen 0079 for the Wii. As an FPS, it’s the final evolution in the Blue Destiny-Rise from the Ashes series. There’s a lot of content in it, since it has a Federation and a Zeon campaign, and the gameplay is pretty responsive. There’s an English patch available that’s currently a WIP, but it translates enough of the game so you have a good idea of what’s going on. Currently there’s a bug that takes you to the credits once beating the first EFF mission, but you can work around it by just playing without the patch and then saving after beating that mission.
    If you haven’t played it, play it. Physical copies go for, like, $10-15 US, and if you wanna play in Dolphin, you can probably get the game running at 60FPS. (It struggles on original hardware.)

  • @irishijo1
    @irishijo1 4 дні тому +1

    DS game reminds me alot of the Artdink PSP games, lots of well done games under their belt. From the Gundam games, to the Macross one, they all have similar controls and schemes so its easy to play them all despite their JP exclusivity. Once you understand the controls and everything, and if you have a translator on hand for some of the more esoteric bits

  • @ClassicQuarterGamePlays
    @ClassicQuarterGamePlays 4 дні тому +3

    Gundam 00 so good😊 Super topic Rockon Kakarot 197 but can you talk about japans sd gundam battler RPG game it super fun too. Happy new years 🎉👾🎊👾🍻😎

  • @neonnwave1
    @neonnwave1 День тому

    To cleanse your pallet, you may wanna look into Gundam games that were hidden gems. For example: 'MS Saga: A New Dawn' (also known as 'Gundam: True Odyssey'). It's a hit or miss amongst fans but for what it is, it showed that effort was put into it. (Also good luck finding a copy.)

  • @FOXZILLA5734
    @FOXZILLA5734 3 дні тому

    You know the DS game having you to choose missions really gave me an armored core feel, really perfect for 00 in game form.

  • @KionKamon
    @KionKamon 3 дні тому +1

    So the PS2 game plays a bit like ZOE without the fun and strategy behind it. Gotcha.
    Edit:
    For those who aren’t clear on that, ZOE and ZOE The Second Runner use a similar control scheme with the square button in that if you’re far from an enemy, the square button is a ranged attack. If you’re up close, the square button becomes your melee attack button. But those games allow you to use various sub weapons as well with the circle button after you selected one.

  • @cammando2363
    @cammando2363 4 дні тому +1

    It really is a shame that there weren’t more dub Gundam games.

  • @maolanlanrotten103
    @maolanlanrotten103 3 дні тому

    I played and finished both games few years back. Its fun, thats all I can say.

  • @folknerdragon4113
    @folknerdragon4113 4 дні тому +1

    the second game sounds like a heavily baby-fied version of zone of the enders

  • @corvus9359
    @corvus9359 4 дні тому +2

    The DS really did have a lot of hidden gems.

  • @dooggo-1402
    @dooggo-1402 4 дні тому

    I'd love to honestly see more reviews of Gundam Games by you

  • @ShinKurosawaLegendaryMaster
    @ShinKurosawaLegendaryMaster 2 дні тому

    7:04 You can also unlock the Ahead as the final secret unlockable

  • @reijigamer
    @reijigamer 4 дні тому

    Kakarot, the Gunpla Navi looks interesting. I wouldn't mind a video just going over more of its content. Kind of reminds me of those Gundam catalog DVDs.

  • @5unnysCorner
    @5unnysCorner 4 дні тому +2

    I would so love a new game to do what the DS game did but on a bigger scale. Even the graphics you could get away with keeping similar since it has that now classic blocky 3D look people are raving over nowadays thanks to nostalgia.
    00 Meisters… leave it in the past, as it should.

  • @Jirujan
    @Jirujan 4 дні тому

    i played Gundam Meister (the PS2 game), i already know Gundam 00 from magazine, but that game is the first time i heard the audio related to Gundam 00. like the OST, VA, etc. especially the "ORE WA GUNDAM!"
    i agree with your points of this game. but the opening is fire. i like the song and the new animation

  • @yungmegvtron
    @yungmegvtron 2 дні тому

    I used to play that DS game A LOT. i wish it covered more of the show.

  • @El_Hectornauta
    @El_Hectornauta 4 дні тому +2

    Played the PS2 one, I could say that the original opening animation is very good (the only good thing).
    Incredibly that the game was launched after the Gundam Seed VS one (OMNI vs ZAFT II Plus), that one was such a fun game.

    • @kakarot197
      @kakarot197  4 дні тому +1

      Yeah, all of the old Vs games hold up really well.

  • @lucasurquiza554
    @lucasurquiza554 4 дні тому +1

    This has gotta be the first time a DS game was better than it’s PS2 counterpart lol

  • @rudatkatzn9171
    @rudatkatzn9171 4 дні тому +4

    10:51 KAKAROT FELLOW SHIKICUM CONFIRMED?

    • @weebcraft6829
      @weebcraft6829 4 дні тому

      I thought Shikicum was for Azur Lane players

    • @rudatkatzn9171
      @rudatkatzn9171 3 дні тому

      @@weebcraft6829 Counts for both. I am Shikicum for both Nikkes and KAN-SEN anyways

  • @E1Ns_
    @E1Ns_ 4 дні тому +6

    gundam 00 was my introduction to the gundam series , first being seed/seed destiny

  • @dr.bright6272
    @dr.bright6272 3 дні тому

    I've always wanted to play one of these

  • @TenNoMichiyoIki
    @TenNoMichiyoIki 4 дні тому

    Eyyyy Cinderella burst LEZGOOOOO
    Nikke content when?

  • @D3rpp00l
    @D3rpp00l 4 дні тому

    I miss the PSP games from this time. So many choices, from 0079 UC to S1 of 00. The transformable suits could even switch modes. Not to mention Macross Ace Frontier, which was basically the same game, but with Macross units. Good times.

  • @RickyFSeiei
    @RickyFSeiei 3 дні тому

    Man the PS 2 Game seems better in my imagination than in irl. I think the nostalgia just get the better of me.

  • @hhoop3876
    @hhoop3876 4 дні тому +5

    First, also happy new year!

  • @raxkiyamatocarlos2102
    @raxkiyamatocarlos2102 4 дні тому +1

    I like these games .

  • @bladeazuma
    @bladeazuma 4 дні тому +1

    The PS2 Gundam 00 game was a good game

  • @Heroduothecomedian
    @Heroduothecomedian 3 дні тому

    3:42 giving your gundam more thrust 😏😏😏😏

  • @ruaghs7123
    @ruaghs7123 4 дні тому

    the blocky Virtue looks quite nice ngl

  • @MSGSlayer1
    @MSGSlayer1 4 дні тому

    I got the DS game along with the pre-order bonus--a Rollout Exia Gunpla. I enjoyed the gameplay for a while before it got repetitive. And Gunpla Navi was nothing special when you could find the same tips on UA-cam.

  • @tmsern4341
    @tmsern4341 4 дні тому

    ahh gundam meisters for the PS2, the very few times we in the west didn't get a gundam game! Dodged that bullet, the NDS games seems really cool especially with the option to choose your missions to weaken the other factions, would have been awesome to have that idea more fleshed out for a PS2 or PS3 game . Hell even a PS4 or PS5 gundam 00 game would be great, doubt we'll ever get one .

  • @stevenchan3822
    @stevenchan3822 3 дні тому

    Watching this makes me feel ancient….

  • @KaloyanKasabov
    @KaloyanKasabov 4 дні тому

    The PS2 game is good for only one thing. Getting sound effects through file extraction and the final cutscene that shows what happened with after season 1, with the cool version of the throne theme that even in the game files is with a dialogue, so I can't find

  • @noname768397
    @noname768397 3 дні тому

    My intro to Gundam was seed, and seed games and i thought its pretty good, i never really watch gundam afterwards but play like the UC compilation game like from 0079 into F91.
    Then OO came along and i was like wth is this gundam? Doesn't looked like one everything looked so alien, and where's the rocket booster, played the game and the OO gundam only unlocked after the game ends
    But something in the game piqued my interest for the anime and its pretty good gave a whole new perspective on the game

  • @kanrakucheese
    @kanrakucheese 4 дні тому

    That DS game’s music isn’t even in the top five Gundam games with original music since it has to compete with Cross Dimension 0079, Formula Senki 0122, MS Saga, Blue Destiny, Crossbone G Gen Zero (I *think* that’s where the Crossbone Gundam theme ultimately comes from), and the various Gundam Breaker in-game stuff (and that’s just ones I know)

  • @ASBA1991
    @ASBA1991 4 дні тому

    12:24 oh man, Bandai Namco Ceo better watch out! LOL

  • @KRHikaru
    @KRHikaru 4 дні тому +1

    Wait, so the PS2 game is a game extremely dumbed down version of Zone Of The Enders?

  • @pattouco
    @pattouco 4 дні тому

    More gundam games reviews please

  • @TheGreenFlame126
    @TheGreenFlame126 4 дні тому

    Oh, I remember when the PS2 game dropped! It was mostly to promote S2 which had started airing a week or two before its release. You're dead-on with just about everything though I will say one of the nicer things about it (back then) was an early look at the 00 and Ahead (which were both secret unlocks) and some of the non-show based missions (or the cutscenes for them rather). They had some interesting like team-ups Lockon-Tieria vs Graham-Patrick and a very clear bit of how super dead S1 Lockon was but beyond those, it definitely was one of the weaker Gundam games on the ps2, possibly weaker than Journey to Jaburo even...

  • @mobileshaman2364
    @mobileshaman2364 2 дні тому

    Man i remember having a good time on the DS game playing on an R4 despite not understanding the language. The PS2 game on the other hand is just remembered mostly because it had one hidden animated scene at the end of the game showing Setsuna after the emd of the first season. Shame

  • @Nocxys
    @Nocxys 4 дні тому

    0:50
    a quick reminder that emulation isn't actually illegal, if you used a copy that you have bought yourself and then backed it up on you're computer, it's legal, just don't upload it anywhere.

  • @constantinebratanata
    @constantinebratanata 4 дні тому

    What I would give for a good modern Gundam 00 game.

  • @karlmueller1980
    @karlmueller1980 3 дні тому

    Glad I never got the PS2 version of this double game. One of these days I may get the 3DS game but otherwise I’ll stick to the double 0, in Dynasty Warriors, Gundam two and three.

  • @nicemecha
    @nicemecha День тому

    Do AGE games next. I remembered finding a few for PPSS.. PSP back in the day.

  • @rifukui
    @rifukui 4 дні тому

    I remember when wanna buy some gundam games in PS2 , the covers was gundam 00 and the covers is gundam exia but when the game started it was not gundam 00 as i expected but is gundam Journey to the jaburo 😂

  • @Calvados656
    @Calvados656 4 дні тому

    Cant forget a game you never knew existed lol...

  • @shiroganekatsuki2940
    @shiroganekatsuki2940 День тому

    8:38 so basically lore accurate with the anime lol

  • @Sinbad7S
    @Sinbad7S 4 дні тому +1

    I played these lol. Ngl it was kinda good the DS one at least

  • @renashi0127
    @renashi0127 4 дні тому +1

    10:50 I didn't expect a NIKKE jumpscare here... But here we are XD.
    Anyway, definitely Agreed with you on Gundam 00 Meister. Was started to be bored with this game halfway through and literally went back playing Gundam SEED Never Ending Tomorrow. Definitely the weakest Gundam game in the PS2 list of Gundam games.

  • @demc2000
    @demc2000 3 дні тому

    Personal favourite gundam game is on the PSvita. Gundam Seed battle destiny.

  • @kyokyodisaster4842
    @kyokyodisaster4842 4 дні тому

    Genuine question @Kakarot197 do you think you can do a video on the Gihren's Greed games?
    I ask since you know japanese and could probably get more out of it then the average EN guy.

  • @notani3533
    @notani3533 2 дні тому

    I remember the PS2, despite being a dissapointment compare to UC Climax it add least add some story. I remember the cutscene where Graham and Patrick should do a team up against Tierra, only for Lockon to shot Patrick down.

  • @KenjiHato
    @KenjiHato 3 дні тому

    What the hell i never knew their was oo gundam for the ds and i owned all hand helds from gba sp up to the switch currently😮

  • @menorasendaiba6404
    @menorasendaiba6404 3 дні тому

    Tbh Gundam 00 Gundam Meisters is Bamco tried to "borrow" Another Century Episode mechanic with PS2 SEED/SEED Destiny feel. But they release a game when transition into PS3 era

  • @xs3tsunax
    @xs3tsunax 3 дні тому

    that DS game is actually my intoduction to gunpla. but i didn't buy any that was featured and bought cherudim from the second season instead lmao

  • @jeffmisada9980
    @jeffmisada9980 2 дні тому

    Gundam 00 for the Nintendo DS needs a fan translation. I still play it despite being in japanese. Also, Blazer Drive for the Nintendo DS also needs a fan translation.

  • @TheNateRule
    @TheNateRule 4 дні тому

    Have you talked about Emblem Of Gundam?

  • @darkdragon0083
    @darkdragon0083 4 дні тому

    They should try again with side story content and original missions.

  • @IBW_3000
    @IBW_3000 3 дні тому

    Now we need to call for a remake of the DS game. All the way to Trailblazer!

  • @tonyh5779
    @tonyh5779 4 дні тому

    I would love it if Bamco took the time and made a quality, entirely original, Gundam game.

  • @jonathanchadwell6263
    @jonathanchadwell6263 3 дні тому

    Since Gundam Meisters was developed by Yukes (known for doing wrestling games I believe), if you want a better game, they did release the PS2 VOTOMS title that same year.
    Also shows which game they gave a damn about.

  • @mikloridden8276
    @mikloridden8276 4 дні тому

    I regret buying the PS2 one back in the day off of eBay when it came out. Paid 180 bucks and it blew

  • @sandipansaha888
    @sandipansaha888 4 дні тому

    What about Gundam Assault Survive (2010) Psp games. It is also great game with more mobile suit & you can play every faction in it.

  • @tranminhquocbaok15hcm45
    @tranminhquocbaok15hcm45 3 дні тому

    Happy new year 2o25

  • @yoshikagekira9781
    @yoshikagekira9781 4 дні тому

    It'd be nice if you did this with the seed games too

  • @THEkuphien
    @THEkuphien 4 дні тому

    i remember playing both back in the day. and yes... its funny that 00 on ps2 are just a bit "better" than the ds one lol (graphically ofc)

  • @rodrigomartintereso
    @rodrigomartintereso 4 дні тому

    I played the ps2 one to the fullest and you get acces to the 00 gundam and to the Mr Bushido Ahead by completing the game

  • @axelded13
    @axelded13 День тому

    Nikke mentioned. W

  • @lunareclipse1882
    @lunareclipse1882 4 дні тому

    even zone of the enders 1 game had more dephts gameplay wise the gundam 00 gundam meister and zone of the enders 1 came out around the same time as metal gear solid 2

  • @hrgaming4plebs570
    @hrgaming4plebs570 3 дні тому +1

    to be fair the 00 ps2 gameplay is copied straight from Zone of the Enders(of course with cheaper graphics and worse camera). Sadly it doesn't have as interesting bosses or even atleast switching some subweapons. Still worth it to hear Setsuna say OREGA GUNDAM DA once 😂

  • @ZROSTARS
    @ZROSTARS 3 дні тому

    My first Gundam game was Journey to Jaburo. Most future games were not as good 😞

  • @lanceyanos622
    @lanceyanos622 3 дні тому

    Please feature all of Dynasty Warriors Gundam games if you have the chance. Thanks!

  • @PostcastFromFiretopMountain
    @PostcastFromFiretopMountain 4 дні тому

    Wait, there were only two? I thought for sure 00 would get more games!

  • @billyboleson2830
    @billyboleson2830 2 дні тому

    Zone of the enders 2 really is the best gundam game huh

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 4 дні тому

    "Violently bored" X3