Thanks for the video. You have confirmed my suspicions about Steve, his saws and business practices. If he was legit with his saw business he would have had the issues all sorted out before going to market. My understanding of Steve's motivation for selling clones was to offer saws that did not suffer all of the issues that have plagued the clones in the past. That would mean to me getting the issues sorted out before going to market. That does not appear to be what has happened. I find buying parts kit saws and putting them together my self the most reliable way of producing a clone saw that is reliable in the long run. I sprinkle in the parts I know to be problematic with any particular clone variant with very good results. I feel this method is the most cost effective way to go approach clone saws in general.
Steve: if you’re any kind of guy you should send me the updated coil and carb … anything LESS “wood” be …….. uncivilized and not in line with is your stated “customer service” … In this First ( and definitely LAST ) dealing with you I’m NOT satisfied with the product as delivered … PERIOD!
I honestly rip it apart and check the engine size on camera anyway dude. I bought mine off of Temu for just under $160, with 24" bar, no issues out of the box. Crazy that he's charging $700
@@nateludy6749 he got a duel port muff with it and a bar & chain, so let's say 125$ atleast for it so take that away from price 365 minus 125= 240ish with muffler too,, can't fix stupid right
Let me be totally frank here : the saw as delivered runs,oils and cuts wood! I’m not saying that it won’t do its intended job at all! The issue is trying to extract more performance out of it … the coil / carb is inadequate imho. IF I buy a 572 for $1200 new it will “take” to the mods like a fish to water , THIS 372xp 76.5cc “clone” saw NEEDS some OEM components to be replaced to achieve the performance gains. The fit/finish - feel in the hands etc of this saw is very good and for most will perform the job! For a gear head like myself who wants more “zip” outta his saws it needs the parts. Saw Absolutely needs the coil , I suppose one could “dick around” with the hilic carburetor and use “JB weld” / micro drill to “make it work” however at a shop rate of 100/hour it is simply not economical to do so especially when a superior walbro oem hd-12 can be had to your door for $70 🤣
What a pain!!! The old adage, you get what you pay for. I say screw the Chinese garb and spend your hard earned money on real equipment! At least you know what you're getting.
**Let me clarify my comment on previous video**I was saying that you can buy a clone from a better known/ established clone saw brand for much less than 700$ and it won’t come with the BB. I wasn’t saying the saw shown does or doesn’t have one.
@ No I probably didn’t write it clear. Sometimes what I’m trying to say and what actually comes out in text doesn’t match up or make sense lol 😆.. I’m just not a super fan of BB cyls simply because all they do is take a standard bore cyl and bore it 2mm larger. So you don’t have any increased transfer flow to aid in the larger bore and actually it tends to make a worse transfer entry angle but that’s a major discussion. The whole BB cyl thing is used as a selling point of “bigger means better” but we all know that’s not always the case. Anyways hopefully you can get this whole fiasco sorted.
Sounds about right to me what your saying i agree, i watched a guy take apart a clone and measure it and it was not what was advertised, it was a few short on cc's, i have a couple clones still in the box and right off the bat i am assuming at minimum a 5% decrease in power from the get go and more than likely even more than that, i could be wrong but in my head that's what i am going with at the starting line.
Fabulous u may 2ant to go back & watch ur either last video or the 1 before tht. U stated ur now retired and have plenty of time to dick with saws now. This one u say here soon u retire. By way quit working these Saw builders all up Fabz
Thanks for the video. You have confirmed my suspicions about Steve, his saws and business practices. If he was legit with his saw business he would have had the issues all sorted out before going to market. My understanding of Steve's motivation for selling clones was to offer saws that did not suffer all of the issues that have plagued the clones in the past. That would mean to me getting the issues sorted out before going to market. That does not appear to be what has happened. I find buying parts kit saws and putting them together my self the most reliable way of producing a clone saw that is reliable in the long run. I sprinkle in the parts I know to be problematic with any particular clone variant with very good results. I feel this method is the most cost effective way to go approach clone saws in general.
Steve: if you’re any kind of guy you should send me the updated coil and carb … anything LESS “wood” be …….. uncivilized and not in line with is your stated “customer service” … In this First ( and definitely LAST ) dealing with you I’m NOT satisfied with the product as delivered … PERIOD!
Well, that escalated quickly lmao!
U can by a short block 372 with a big bore for 60 or 70 dollar it comes with the cases and cyinder ive found
76.5 will have a 52mm bore like a 046 or 460 stihl
Exactly
The seller claimed these to be a 'beast' out of the box. Obviously not the case apparently
@@jamiedalluge9472 perhaps it’s a “beast” to him ! To me I wasn’t satisfied with it but it DOES operate as it should so ….
@fabzacres-blackcat perspective is definitely a factor when describing something..
Mr. Acres, the war is over already, Steve has deleted the videos where he hung you out.
That said, no mercy should be shown
Take more work but u cand add all your things too it carb coil pipe etc run it and then run it like it was sent then do ur side x side vids
I honestly rip it apart and check the engine size on camera anyway dude. I bought mine off of Temu for just under $160, with 24" bar, no issues out of the box. Crazy that he's charging $700
What is crazy is someone paying 700
He paid 365
@@nateludy6749 he got a duel port muff with it and a bar & chain, so let's say 125$ atleast for it so take that away from price 365 minus 125= 240ish with muffler too,, can't fix stupid right
@@alltherpm yet still nothing upgraded and it says it is the best clone. But nothin has been upgraded for the price. your right can't fix stupid
Let me be totally frank here : the saw as delivered runs,oils and cuts wood! I’m not saying that it won’t do its intended job at all! The issue is trying to extract more performance out of it … the coil / carb is inadequate imho. IF I buy a 572 for $1200 new it will “take” to the mods like a fish to water , THIS 372xp 76.5cc “clone” saw NEEDS some OEM components to be replaced to achieve the performance gains. The fit/finish - feel in the hands etc of this saw is very good and for most will perform the job! For a gear head like myself who wants more “zip” outta his saws it needs the parts. Saw Absolutely needs the coil , I suppose one could “dick around” with the hilic carburetor and use “JB weld” / micro drill to “make it work” however at a shop rate of 100/hour it is simply not economical to do so especially when a superior walbro oem hd-12 can be had to your door for $70 🤣
What a pain!!! The old adage, you get what you pay for. I say screw the Chinese garb and spend your hard earned money on real equipment! At least you know what you're getting.
Cldnt agree more. You can buy a nice used OEM reasonably and know what you have
**Let me clarify my comment on previous video**I was saying that you can buy a clone from a better known/ established clone saw brand for much less than 700$ and it won’t come with the BB. I wasn’t saying the saw shown does or doesn’t have one.
@@Houseworksaws ok , I thought you were speaking of THIS saw
@ No I probably didn’t write it clear. Sometimes what I’m trying to say and what actually comes out in text doesn’t match up or make sense lol 😆.. I’m just not a super fan of BB cyls simply because all they do is take a standard bore cyl and bore it 2mm larger. So you don’t have any increased transfer flow to aid in the larger bore and actually it tends to make a worse transfer entry angle but that’s a major discussion. The whole BB cyl thing is used as a selling point of “bigger means better” but we all know that’s not always the case. Anyways hopefully you can get this whole fiasco sorted.
I'm pretty sure a few of the Stihl versions were left at ironhorse to try out. Be very curious to see the results on Harveys channel
I hope you have plenty of time to wait, not much action on Harv's channel.
@Andrew_Johnstone ya he's been hit and miss. Always look forward to a new ironhorse video
Hey, I’d call him out too. He thinks he has the best thing that since sliced bread.😂 parsley, I don’t know if I’d buy a saw from them
Sounds about right to me what your saying i agree, i watched a guy take apart a clone and measure it and it was not what was advertised, it was a few short on cc's, i have a couple clones still in the box and right off the bat i am assuming at minimum a 5% decrease in power from the get go and more than likely even more than that, i could be wrong but in my head that's what i am going with at the starting line.
Scrambled or sunny side up?
Tear it down. We know the parts dont lie.
Fabulous u may 2ant to go back & watch ur either last video or the 1 before tht. U stated ur now retired and have plenty of time to dick with saws now. This one u say here soon u retire. By way quit working these Saw builders all up Fabz