CARTEL IN AJIJIC : OUR Personal Experience

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  • @drew8935
    @drew8935 5 років тому +142

    I just spent the last year traveling throughout all of Mexico. I never felt uncomfortable for a moment. But its a matter of good common sense. Just like in the states. I love Mexico and will be back again soon. Wonderful people and beautiful country.

    • @antirashists
      @antirashists 5 років тому +7

      Agree. I felt more safe in CDMX, SMA, Santiago de Queretaro and Guanajuato City than in Manchester, Barcelona, Rome or Paris ...

    • @raquelhernandez1209
      @raquelhernandez1209 5 років тому

      In February I will be going back to Mexico to see family and I will be traveling on a bus from seattle to Mexico city with 2 children is there anything I should watch out for or avoid? I have only traveled by plane so I'm a bit scared for this bus ride.

    • @debcook8610
      @debcook8610 5 років тому

      @Brett Stanton Dumb Ass? How much luck did you have in Mexico, you are still here to condemn others for not sharing your fear.

    • @elartedelasvelas3304
      @elartedelasvelas3304 4 роки тому

      browneyes rico I’m not sure about the bus cause it’s a very long trip recommend to take care don’t separate I’d keep an eye opened while sleeping if I were traveling with children just to be sure

    • @nationalnotes
      @nationalnotes 4 роки тому

      browneyes rico trust your instincts?

  • @DoughRaeMe
    @DoughRaeMe 5 років тому +55

    I for one appreciate your honesty. Most vloggers, bloggers and you tube creators will not even approach the topic.

  • @jeffburnham1606
    @jeffburnham1606 5 років тому +56

    We've lived in the mountains of Michoacan for the last 5 years, in a little town of approx 10K people. There was a killing before we arrived here about 6 years ago.
    We are from San Antonio, TX which is the drive-by capital of the world, and home of the Mexican Mafia. Just about every week, there are innocent people violently murdered from these drive-by shootings (along with cartel members). My wife and I had permits and training to carry handguns, and would not leave home without them.
    If you check out the stats for MX cartel killings, I'm sure you will find the overwhelming majority of victims are cartel members or customers of the cartels with most of these crimes committed after dark. So let that sink in! We feel safer here in Mexico, where we aren't allowed to carry or possess guns, then we did in SA, TX.
    BUT, as Jerry said in his video....Mexico isn't for everyone.

  • @carlcraig3974
    @carlcraig3974 5 років тому +20

    Great video Jerry! My wife is from Mexico and has said many times if you don't mess with their business to they will not mess with you. We plan to move to Mexico in the next couple years because we can stretch our money a little further there. I have no apprehension of moving to Mexico.

  • @Dr.CorneliaKratzer
    @Dr.CorneliaKratzer 5 років тому +77

    The week before I left to drive my car from Los Angeles to Tulum all across Mexico (a woman by myself with 3 dogs ) a gunman held everyone hostage at my local Trader Joe's here in LA and shot and killed an innocent woman This is where I shopped regularly! During my drives across all areas of Mexico -nothing happened not even a suspicious moment - this included 6 days hard driving down to Tulum and later a different route 6 days 8-10 hour driving back to the US!

    • @deeznutzz9864
      @deeznutzz9864 5 років тому +2

      Be careful, Canadian tourist was just raped, beaten and robbed in her hotel room in Tulum.

    • @thedrummersclub3667
      @thedrummersclub3667 5 років тому

      Good information

    • @maziedelsordo2114
      @maziedelsordo2114 4 роки тому

      @@deeznutzz9864 Yeah that never happens in the USA or Canada... LOL idiot.

    • @deeznutzz9864
      @deeznutzz9864 4 роки тому +1

      @@maziedelsordo2114 its everyday in Mexico

    • @deeznutzz9864
      @deeznutzz9864 4 роки тому +1

      @@maziedelsordo2114 if you follow news, everyday in Mexico a body with heads and arms, legs cut off appears or people hung from bridges. To even compare that to USA would be fucking stupid of you. Whats worse is almost always nobody will be caught or arrested. You can easily rape and kill in mexico without worrying about getting caught.

  • @TangerineTravels
    @TangerineTravels 5 років тому +26

    Thanks for sharing your experience, Jerry! It's valuable for us to hear all sides of the story, both good and bad, so we can make better-informed decisions. I don't know if you could make a whole video on this, but I'd be interested to hear what you know about car accidents in Mexico, what the process is like, why you go to jail, whether it's just the driver or everyone in the car, how mexican car insurance will protect you, etc...

    • @mtradz
      @mtradz 5 років тому +8

      You *should* be addressing cartels as well on your channel. But you are just another vlogger who doesn't and you make it sound all sooooo good and wonderful to be living in MX. You need to be talking about BOTH sides of the coin as well on your channel.

    • @TangerineTravels
      @TangerineTravels 5 років тому +26

      @@mtradz Bullshit. We've been talking about the good and the bad the ENTIRE time that we've had a channel.

    • @drew8935
      @drew8935 5 років тому +13

      @@TangerineTravels lol...yes you have and its been very much appreciated!

    • @josefino106
      @josefino106 5 років тому +12

      I also think they talk about the bad stuff as well, in my view tangerine travels are pretty honest

    • @waynevandermeer3139
      @waynevandermeer3139 5 років тому +1

      I would thk you guys are always using common sense in your travels. The crime exist and won’t go away.

  • @johnpagoto1054
    @johnpagoto1054 5 років тому +58

    I'm based in Puerto Vallarta never felt safer. Lived 65 years in the Detroit area so by comparison, it's the safest place I've ever been. The recent issue by the border has some backstory, the weapons clearly are being smuggled in from, guess where? The USA, yep overwhelming US weapons come from the United States. The Mormons living there for years had bad blood between them and the local cartel. There are many cartels from reports I've heard. My thoughts? The government should legalize some of what now is illegal but readily available. Even turn members legit in some cases. It may seem controversial but then the focus could be a crackdown on human trafficking, fentanyl and methamphetamines. Thank you for your candor and sharing. This was out of character, given your light and happy Vlogging. I appreciate the honesty. No one wants to be caught in the middle of a conflict like that

    • @mikecrook8434
      @mikecrook8434 5 років тому +5

      Your thoughts about legalizing some of what now is illegal but available are spot on. I doubt that will happen though. Dirty money is likely in control.

    • @natemcdaniel2139
      @natemcdaniel2139 5 років тому +7

      That weapons in Mexico are primarily from the USA is a fiction. This originates in a statistic- that 80% of weapons traced in Mexico are from the USA. This is true. The only problem is, only about 15% of weapons found in Mexico can be traced at all, and why can they be traced? They can be traced due to records kept in the USA. The vast majority of weapons in Mexico cannot be traced at all. The cartel weapons men are not fools. The best and cheapest weapons can be found in such places as Eastern Europe, where truly military grade weapons can be purchased by the container load and they are not traceable. Cartels are arming themselves with full Automatic weapons, RPGs, and grenades. These are not things that can be bought in some gun shop in the USA.

    • @huertalapaz8359
      @huertalapaz8359 5 років тому +2

      The big question after years of fighting over water rights , and other things , kidnapped family members held for ransom , some killings , on both sides , very dangerous area , all who live here know that , why were 3 Vans full of women and children out on a dirt road at 3am with not 1 man or lead protective car they should have been guarded front and back , there is more to this , lots of rumors but what I mentioned is fact . The Mormons are very well armed also , and do not let their women travel solo, they were supposedly going to the States for a wedding , with many of them living their entire life here something is definitely missing in the story, we all know better , been here for 30 years as a single mother and still feel very safe I am also close to Puerto Vallarta ,feel very sorry for the victims but still do not know why their men were not there in any capacity of protection, and its been proven it was not rival cartels .

    • @tdgdbs1
      @tdgdbs1 5 років тому

      @Bond James Bond We have never ventured outside the wire with less than 3 vehicles. OIF/OEF

    • @Chris-px1qk
      @Chris-px1qk 4 роки тому

      @@natemcdaniel2139 I've done some research into how the firearm tracing is being done in Mexico and it's often not done, or done incorrectly. It's becoming obvious that a good chunk of firearms seen in cartel hands are not coming from the US though it's hard to determine the number. With Cartel's having so many international connections it's becoming easier than ever to acquire illicit arms.

  • @wjinro
    @wjinro 5 років тому +49

    If tragedy near you makes you flee, you may never find a place to call home.

  • @mtradz
    @mtradz 5 років тому +30

    It's about time (and loooong overdue) that you *finally* come clean about cartels in MX and talking about how it's not all rainbows and unicorns where you live. You do continue to gloss over the fact that they are ALL OVER Jalisco State (which Ajijic is in) and they are IN and AROUND Lake Chapala. Granted, I agree with you that they mostly leave the gringos who live there alone, but don't be fooled and don't lead your subscribers to believe that they are not in Ajijic. They are, they are just not seen. Remember how for years Acapulco was a jewel to visit and live in? It's nothing but a killing field these days...Jerry, I have to say this is one of your best honest and open videos you have ever done. It would be nice to see more of them.

  • @jamesharkness1058
    @jamesharkness1058 5 років тому +31

    Thank you for addressing this, and sharing your experience. Appreciate you talking about the risks, and how you manage it.

    • @jobethk588
      @jobethk588 5 років тому +1

      James Harkness My thoughts exactly. My comment was going to start "thank you for addressing this."

  • @charlesbrown7066
    @charlesbrown7066 5 років тому +30

    I've traveled and worked in other countries, I dont think I could have said it any better than you did. Stay out of the areas where crime is and take the same precautions you would at home. Educate yourself about the local laws and act accordingly. Great video as usual and entertaining even with such a serious topic. Thanks for all your and Lori's hard work.

    • @YogawithDeLora
      @YogawithDeLora 5 років тому

      get real! it is not being in the 'bad places' late at night. My partner walked down our street in San Miguel de Allende at 2:30 in the afternoon past a kindergarten and a man was murdered right there. That is such a lie - be careful and you will be ok.

    • @geraldarnoult
      @geraldarnoult 2 роки тому

      just stay out of crime period

  • @tommollica2481
    @tommollica2481 5 років тому +9

    Thank you for the difficult video. I’m in Chiapas now and from New Jersey. I love it here but it’s not for everybody. Military check points are a fact of life here. I drive as little a possible in rural areas at night. It’s a hard thing to explain that comparing Mexico to the US is not a question of being better or worse, it’s about being different. If you were fearful of unfamiliar places in the US you will feel that way here. If you welcome new experiences and cultures then you’ll love it here as we do. I’m part of your generation and the reality is we have to be more cautious then when we were younger. Being active and open to different is a choice. The rocking chairs and hammocks here are very comfortable. Keep up the good work!

  • @debholdren
    @debholdren 5 років тому +10

    Thanks for sharing your experiences, Jerry, and for helping folks view these latest events in the proper perspective. We live in Ajijic and feel safer than we did in Atlanta!

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  5 років тому

      How to Retire in Mexico Featuring ua-cam.com/video/cvmJaL-h_9E/v-deo.html

  • @DwightWilson1999
    @DwightWilson1999 5 років тому +17

    Thanks for your honesty Jerry. Each person needs to make their own decision. Colombia had a massive drug cartel problem, but they worked hard and eventually solved it. I hope Mexico will do the same.

    • @mimi1o8
      @mimi1o8 5 років тому

      Dwight Wilson , the Mexican cartels are extremely powerful, the government hasn’t the same resources as them I was told. Acapulco used to be very nice 50 years ago, now it isn’t a safe tourist area anymore. I saw a BBC report from Cancun few months ago and is becoming dangerous too.

  • @jamesskaggsexpatjournal7104
    @jamesskaggsexpatjournal7104 5 років тому +3

    Jerry and Lori’s videos are very informative and consistently clarify that their point of view is solely based on their experiences. As a recent arrival my wife and I have found that most of what they present is true. Ajijic is a great place to live as an expat.

  • @dougp212
    @dougp212 5 років тому +3

    Thank you Jerry for the good information you always provide. I retired 6 months ago and lived in Guadalajara for 2 months then moved to Mexico City in July. I enjoy it here very much and feel safe. I agree with Andrew. It's very important to use common sense. I don't let fear dictate my choices. I find the Mexican people very friendly and helpful and I look forward to exploring more of Mexico. Thank you again for all of yours and Loris' hard work.

  • @mariahahn-silva2892
    @mariahahn-silva2892 5 років тому

    Jerry, your calm demeanor, simple explanation of your experience and point of view is so real. What is happening today in Mexico is what was happening in Colombia years ago. You are presenting the reader with facts and as the expression goes: "take what you want and leave the rest". Each individual opts for what best works for that person. And you and Lori made the choice that best works for you both. I taught in the Lower East Side of NYC and would enter or exit the subway station where an elder was stabbed, police patrolled the station for weeks and many commuters were still using that busy strain station. I worked at the World Trade Center a few years before 9/11. All one can do is to continue with life.

  • @mariavalladolid5419
    @mariavalladolid5419 5 років тому +4

    Hi Jerry, I’m so glad you made this video to assure people it is save to visit and live in Mexico. Is like any place you go, be aware of the places you go and what time of the day. Thank you again for promoting this pretty country, my second country. Gracias!! 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

  • @dianasalazar1808
    @dianasalazar1808 5 років тому +12

    Thank you for your candid comments. Information is power! We choose.

  • @Lmon2
    @Lmon2 5 років тому +1

    We spent 8 days in Ajijic in November 2018. We loved it, the people were totally warm-hearted & welcoming. And we felt completely safe. We walked everywhere - or took a bus - we thought renting a car would be too much the first time there. And it was wonderful. We never once saw signs of the Cartel, although we were told some of the leaders may have owned some of the palatial homes in the hills about Ajijic. (Rumor line.) We are considering retiring there. This was a great, honest & informative video, Jerry. Thanks for your candid report.

  • @jaelene777
    @jaelene777 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for taking the time to post this. This is our 3rd year of visiting mx. We feel comfortable, but our friends and family are a little concerned. Well said, I hope sharing this will ease their minds. ~ enjoy life....

    • @tomgocubs
      @tomgocubs 5 років тому

      The people back home that have great fears about Mexico--people who basically don't know what they're talking about from personal experience but by what they get from the media and friends who share their prejudice about Mexico--will never come around. Like many expats I have friends and family members that were so attached to their fears about Mexico that they couldn't continue to be in relationship with someone who wasn't guided by those fears.

  • @alexialanda27
    @alexialanda27 5 років тому +3

    I live in San Diego and go back and forth between Michoacan and Mexico City every year to visit family. I get frequent comments about how dangerous Michoacan is and that I need to be careful. I have never felt unsafe in Mexico. I feel more unsafe in the USA and have been robbed twice! There's danger in EVERY country. There was another school shooting in California yesterday and at a football game in Jersey today. Thank you for sharing this Jerry. Also I support the Ernest Hemingway look!

  • @grr8scot
    @grr8scot 5 років тому +18

    After reading some of the many comments below I don't know why one event would make you decide to move or not move. People are killed daily in the US, slaughtered in movie theaters, schools, churches, synagogues, shopping malls, shops, caught in crossfire walking down the street etc. There was another school shooting today, yet you don't seem to feel the need to leave the US so why would one situation in Mexico make you decide to either leave or not move there? I have visited the Lake Chapala area twice and have never felt unsafe, the people are friendly and welcoming, polite and I have enjoyed my time there and always want to go back.

    • @MrTachyon
      @MrTachyon 3 роки тому

      A lot worse now. Multiple mass shootings in several states this weekend, and another mass shooting in San Jose CA rail yard today.

  • @michaelbarrios3625
    @michaelbarrios3625 5 років тому +18

    Thank you. My wife and I are still moving to Mexico soon. We haven't selected the city yet but Guanajuato is looking good. The recent cartel activity was horrific but it doesn't appear to be a pattern. Take care Jerry. You're doing a great job.

    • @michaelbarrios3625
      @michaelbarrios3625 5 років тому +2

      @Brett Stanton So sorry my comment made you angry. Please except my apology. I should be more considerate. Thank you.

    • @jundiaz1
      @jundiaz1 5 років тому

      Try Jalisco that’s my state cartels are everywhere but near Guadalajara people are friendly and the city it’s very modern.

    • @MHow-qc3ns
      @MHow-qc3ns 4 роки тому

      @@michaelbarrios3625: Sarc off? And are you "excepting" your apology? Love your backhanded apology.

  • @toneseeker2
    @toneseeker2 5 років тому +5

    Thank you Jerry for this frank and realistic video. I have travelled to Jalisco every year for the last 15 years and have never experienced violence. I am aware that crimes to happen there as they do in every country. Some of my colleagues talk about Mexico as if there are bodies everywhere that you might trip over, yet they have never been to Mexico.

  • @douglasshamboii956
    @douglasshamboii956 5 років тому +3

    Jerry, you've always been honest and open about everything in Ajijic. We're living right now in St Paul MN, where 27 people have been murdered this year so far. There's danger everywhere. Ducking and hiding only gives in to the criminals. We're of the same mind as you.

  • @naylabyxbe3411
    @naylabyxbe3411 5 років тому +3

    Jerry, thank you for sharing your experiences and your honesty. Thank you for the voice of reason. Stay safe and enjoy your life!

  • @Booboonancy
    @Booboonancy 5 років тому +2

    Love this video. Your approach to such a fear-inducing topic is very level-headed and calming. Mexico is definitely not for everyone but then again neither is traveling for everyone. To each his own and it’s ok if you are not a risk-taker. I’m of the calculated risk school. I also listen to my gut and I refuse to not do things that bring me joy because of unfounded fears. Due diligence is your best tool.

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  5 років тому

      How to Retire in Mexico Featuring ua-cam.com/video/cvmJaL-h_9E/v-deo.html

  • @rrosales1641
    @rrosales1641 5 років тому +3

    Thank you Jerry for your insight truly appreciate them n keep videos coming. Love u guys!

  • @russlogan181
    @russlogan181 5 років тому +13

    I'd rather move to Mexico at 60 and get mowed down in gang war cross fire than work til I'm 70 in canada where winter is literally 5 months long

    • @HamiltonRb
      @HamiltonRb 5 років тому

      Silliest comparison I ever read. I'm from Canada too and retired at 55 to spend winters in Mexico. Because you didn't save enough during your life to have to keep working at 70, how is it the climate's fault? And you would rather die than have a few months of winter, which is what millions of Canadian & American's do every year.

    • @russlogan181
      @russlogan181 5 років тому +11

      @@HamiltonRb don't take things so seriously. Its sarcastic fun. I've met older workers working past 65 who couldn't afford to retire but could have moved to Mexico at let's say 60 but wouldn't dare to because of corporate media's constant drumming of cartel violence. The point was I'd rather risk getting killed in Mexico than work past 65. Relax

    • @HamiltonRb
      @HamiltonRb 5 років тому

      Russ Logan Not sure how working at 70 and the Canadian winter fits into your equation but ok. Possibly you were just venting and thats ok

  • @sandyingram
    @sandyingram 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for this information. I am now in Acapulco and the Gov, Military and Local Police are extremely visible. I feel safe here in Acapulco. Having lived in Oakland, California and Chicago, I don't find Acapulco to be a serious concern. Thank you for speaking on this subject

  • @gregvence7356
    @gregvence7356 5 років тому +2

    Jerry, thank-you for your candor. Your videos have always been so up-beat, I was suspicious that you might never express a word of deep concern. I'd guess this videos was still difficult for you to make. Thanks again.

  • @stevefiorito5379
    @stevefiorito5379 5 років тому +8

    I've been down to Mexico multiple times since 1970 and have never had a problem ... but that doesn't mean that Mexico is "safe". I've been other countries with the same experience. Like you Jerry, I grew up in Southern California ... not known for its "safety". Yet I never had a problem in all the time I lived there. The thing that would bother me about Mexico, is the Government's apparent inability to shut down the cartels. They have to recognize how much those cartels are hurting Mexico. Other countries in Latin America had to essentially declare war on the cartels. I am still considering retiring permanently south of the border, but this is one factor that will not count in favor for a move to Mexico. Just my thoughts.

    • @johnnywalker3798
      @johnnywalker3798 5 років тому

      Steve Fiorito That is precisely the reason,for the violent situation in Mexico. Before the government declared war on the cartels,the cartels did not mess with the people. Since Felipe Calderón declared war on the cartels.,the violence has gotten out of control. Due your research., and stop talking nonsense.

    • @TheChangospace
      @TheChangospace 4 роки тому

      I too, am thinking of retiring down there.

  • @markm5174
    @markm5174 5 років тому +8

    Thanks for the well balanced view of life in Mexico around Lake Chapala.

  • @vestaabel6069
    @vestaabel6069 5 років тому +25

    When I first heard about this on the news they said some of the mother's were tied to the Nxivm cult and had been hired as Nannies to the rainbow group. I don't know if this is true or not as I have heard nothing more. There is a major Mene
    nite drug cartel group in Mexico. And a Mormon group has been clashing with the cartels as well. May not be as random as it looks. Sad. It will not keep me from moving to Mexico soon. I'm with you Jerry!

    • @PoliticalWakeUpCall
      @PoliticalWakeUpCall 5 років тому +2

      These folks were killed by the Catholics, who are losing control of the people. Cartel war crossfire is a lie perpetuated by the fake news.

    • @RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS
      @RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS 5 років тому +2

      Vesta Abel mormones y andaban en conflicto con los carteles por algun razón supuestamente

    • @azul4021
      @azul4021 5 років тому +2

      Riviera Nayarit 🙄 fuera de lugar 🙄

  • @livingitup9647
    @livingitup9647 5 років тому

    Jerry: This is a very important contribution to the concerns about safety in various communities in Mexico. I really appreciate you doing this, and the candor you provided. It's so true that much of our risk factors are situational, and can also be affected by geography. And, it's important to put all of these fears into perspective, as you tried to do in comparing violent and/or random crimes occurring in the U.S. In other words: it's all relative. I also appreciate you bringing up certain measures like: carrying the name of an attorney to assist in case you are in an accident; and being certain to have Mexican vehicle insurance, and carrying all the proper documents at all times. There are many details to attend to, which can smooth the way if one does encounter difficulties. Lessons: Be prepared, and have contingency plans! Thanks again, Jerry and Lori, for all the useful information.

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  5 років тому

      How to Retire in Mexico Featuring ua-cam.com/video/cvmJaL-h_9E/v-deo.html

  • @angeleduardoleovigildomarq7543
    @angeleduardoleovigildomarq7543 5 років тому +21

    That family wasn’t mistaken they were actually targeted by the cartels For years

    • @nananay8267
      @nananay8267 5 років тому

      Do you know why ? It is so heartbreaking.

    • @diogenes9295
      @diogenes9295 5 років тому +5

      They are related to a family in Chihuahua that were challenging the Narcos.

    • @lvialviaquez9146
      @lvialviaquez9146 5 років тому +8

      Los lebaron son narcos también y se roban el agua y terrenos de la gente mexicana

    • @PhilipAnderson
      @PhilipAnderson 3 роки тому +1

      @@nananay8267 do some research on the Mormons in northern Mexico who have been there for years, own property and run farms there who have armed themselves against these cartels. The family members traveling to the family property for the special event were simply targeted and wiped out.

  • @FranciscoRodriguez-ku1nl
    @FranciscoRodriguez-ku1nl 5 років тому +3

    For this honest and trustworthy video, you get a new subscriber.

  • @calebdillard9003
    @calebdillard9003 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much for your videos. I'm in the process of making the decision on whether or not I want to move to Mexico or not. Your videos have been most helpful. Thank you for addressing the cartels!! This is a consideration of course, but thank for addressing it!!

  • @vbyrntliving
    @vbyrntliving 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for your honesty Jerry. I hope to see you and Lori when I come down this spring!

  • @henryswanson5939
    @henryswanson5939 5 років тому +16

    This is the best video I've ever seen on this topic. I agree that it is about risk tolerances, and that one should listen to their intuition. I hope to come to Ajijic with my girlfriend in 2020 and meet with you and Lori!!!

  • @bettymiller1929
    @bettymiller1929 5 років тому +2

    Very interesting to understand your first hand information,
    and very honest and factual.
    Thank you Jerry.
    (PS my friend, a single lady, just got back from Ajijic and had a great time)

  • @skr2824
    @skr2824 5 років тому +3

    We all have an expiration date. Live with it or die like you never lived! Just came back from Cabo from my annual visit and Mom warn me not to go I said that organized crime is everywhere. Here in L.A. things have improved but I still recall three different drive by shootings and will never forget running out my door with other neighbors when we heard shots and the male victim haunting screams of terror and pain lying there bleeding. Thank you, Jerry, for keeping it real. Mexico is a tapestry of beautiful people and colors and I've been blessed with encountering guiding angels even when I've travelled on my own.

    • @suefrench8721
      @suefrench8721 Рік тому

      Very well said. Canada has a federal drug program. The budget was 60% interdiction and 40% demand reduction. Had the percentages been flipped we would have fewer addicts today. And after billions of interdiction dollars were spent on law enforcement for smoker's with one joint of Marijuana, the drug was finally legalized for personal use, with certain exceptions. Had Canada and the US got into drug rehab to get rid of the addict forty years ago, there would be a much smaller market for drugs.
      The crimes in Mexico relate to drugs. If no one wanted drugs the violence would go to other producing countries. Columbia is a good example in taking back their country. In the US, unfortunately, everyone has a gun and depending on the state you live in, some places allow justifiable murders when a black person jogs through a town; oh, sorry, they did convict the 3 southern redneck racist pigs, but the poor jogger is still dead.
      I have not been to the US in 20 some years. Instead, we travel to SE France, the Caribbean and Mexico. Viva 🇲🇽

  • @buddycollier5056
    @buddycollier5056 5 років тому +5

    Thank you Jerry for your comments. Violence is a fact of life everywhere, it could happen to anyone at any time.

  • @WendDesaulniers
    @WendDesaulniers 6 місяців тому +1

    So having a car puts you at more risk, understood. I cant afford to drive nor to keep a lawyer on speed dial. Does just walking around in Ajijic or Chapala during the daytime pose any risk for being arrested etc?

  • @anitahamlin2411
    @anitahamlin2411 5 років тому +3

    This is an honest assessment of things and I appreciate it. I look forward to my trip there in February!

  • @thedrummersclub3667
    @thedrummersclub3667 5 років тому +1

    You make a good point when you compared the level of Killings 8n Mexico by the Cartel vs the random psycho murders in the US. Many people fail to realize this point. Personally, I have always felt completely safe when in Mexico

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  5 років тому

      Retiring at 43 The Secrets To Retiring: ua-cam.com/video/jnAe1lslIWk/v-deo.html

  • @mjerse50
    @mjerse50 5 років тому

    Thank you Jerry I heard you you’re honesty and knowledge about Mexico namely Aijijic and beautiful Lake Chapela .My wife and I visited there last winter. You’re readers comments down below were most interesting indeed.you did a great job!

  • @dennishassler605
    @dennishassler605 5 років тому +4

    Thanks Jerry and Lori - the cartels are said to be everywhere, but I didn't see much of that. You just don't want to be near cartel strongholds. Word is this family was complaining about the cartel activities, so they were indeed targeted. Sad story. Still, I feel safe in Mexico, but I avoid areas that are insecure, but we traveled through questionable areas often. Some risks exist almost everywhere. The police and the cartels are said to sometimes work hand in hand, but there's more freedom in Mexico and the society is very fair - fair for natives and fair for expats, too. There's no perfect place. Certainly, the tourist and expat places are better protected, since they cannot afford to have crime become too widespread. They really do protect expats and I get much better assistance in Mex. than I do here in the USA - there's plenty of harassment from law enforcement in the USA where everyone is losing their freedom - there's a serious loss of freedom and victimization of the people in the USA, but in Mexico you are respected - I much prefer Mexico!!!

    • @josefino106
      @josefino106 5 років тому

      Very interesting point, clearly a lot of people tend to generalized when there's crime in the news, but you don't and i think you make a lot a sense and i agree with you

    • @dennishassler605
      @dennishassler605 5 років тому +1

      @@josefino106 Thank you Antonio - strange how everyone comments and even the Pres. on crimes in Mex., but often ignores the everyday drive by shootings in Chicago pretending they don't even exist. Well, yes, the Mex. gov. doesn't want full out war and an exponential increase in violence country-wide, so they do a bit of a dance.

    • @dennishassler605
      @dennishassler605 5 років тому

      @@josefino106 - Thanks Antonio - wish you the best. Love Mex. If you are in the USA seems they want to chase and regulate everything - there's more freedom in Mex., but Mex. isn't perfect - the poverty can be very sad.

  • @sharonshapiro4118
    @sharonshapiro4118 4 роки тому +2

    THANK YOU FOR THIS HONEST VIDEO ABOUT CRIME. IT IS EVERY WHERE NOW .

  • @33piolin
    @33piolin 5 років тому +23

    The story of the two cartels fighting when the 3 cars of morman women got in the cross-fire were killed is total crock! They knew exactly who they were shooting at . . . los cobardes!

    • @lvialviaquez9146
      @lvialviaquez9146 5 років тому +2

      Patricia Butts los lebaron son narcos y abusivos, se roban el agua y terrenos de la gente mexicana, y hasta entre ellos se han matado

    • @mmtwins2162
      @mmtwins2162 5 років тому

      Yeah I read that the family was related to a killer

    • @BillGreenAZ
      @BillGreenAZ 5 років тому +1

      I agree Patricia. This family was targeted. The cartels don't want the attention of the US government so they are not going to shoot down a Gringo vehicle between rival gangs.

    • @33piolin
      @33piolin 5 років тому

      Por eso se mataron a niños chiquitos? Porque se robaron agua?

    • @momovaryacting8798
      @momovaryacting8798 4 роки тому +2

      Patricia Butts
      Cartel rivalry is ruthless, they will come after your whole family to set an example. It’s very sad 😔

  • @mikemiller9515
    @mikemiller9515 5 років тому +4

    We are staying in Ajijic this week. What a wonderful place! We enjoyed watching kids dance competition in Chapala tonight.

  • @lindahart1167
    @lindahart1167 4 роки тому

    Well said Jerry! You made some very very strong points. Especially the comparison about the shootings happening in the United States versus the Cardel situations and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Thank you for sharing your insights... your experiences are valuable and very informative. Love and appreciate your honesty and insights! Keep up the good work. I have a loyal follower... I recommended your site to my husband. Thank you thank you to you and your wife! P. S. I LOVE YOUR HEMMINGWAY LOOK!

  • @MILGEO
    @MILGEO 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing your 1st hand experience! I've learned that the news here in the US can not be believed and I've already heard different versions of that story from them.

  • @hanslueschen5190
    @hanslueschen5190 5 років тому +1

    Great advice Jerry. We really appreciate your videos!

  • @herwoofnessbostonterrier3420
    @herwoofnessbostonterrier3420 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for presenting that info from the standpoint of COMMON SENSE!
    It was a horrible and heartbreaking event. As an independent mature woman it scared the crap out of me quite frankly. BUT I still want to come and live in Mexico. I am dragging my feet and have a lot to dispose of/sell/give away/throw away and the paper work is mind boggling.
    Lots of fences to jump.......ooooooh, and my beloved dog that must come with me.
    Enuf said, a lot to think about!
    Stay happy, stay healthy!
    Jane and her wacky sidekick Lola, the Boston Terrier

  • @maryrock9136
    @maryrock9136 5 років тому

    I love your way of expressing yourself, Jerry. I live near Washington DC and during the sniper attacks, all soccer practices were cancelled throughout the area. One day during the ordeal we were out in the woods and there wasn't a soul out. I think the whole area over reacted as there were likely more deaths on the highways surround our area, then the deaths from the sniper attacks. The volunteers at the nature center near our home were not even allowed to put bird food in the feeder before they caught the attackers. I think it is Germany that has a yellow warning out for German citizens visiting the US. Do you know that Orlando, the home of Disney, has a huge murder count each year. You don't hear much about that in the news. I had a girl scout troop and there was one mother that would never let her daughter go out camping. I guess you could live in fear or you can live.

  • @hereiknowmyself-jeaniealks377
    @hereiknowmyself-jeaniealks377 5 років тому +1

    Really appreciate your honest personal experiences and thoughts! Thank you for this timely video!

  • @Mexicobeanpole
    @Mexicobeanpole 3 роки тому

    You are super honest. Always. I really appreciate that.

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  3 роки тому

      Thank you have you seen this one we made?
      Sayulita WE WERE SHOCKED
      ua-cam.com/video/cUhlI1_vYGw/v-deo.html

  • @dorahernandez7685
    @dorahernandez7685 3 роки тому

    Thank you Jerry! This subject is like the elephant in the room, people don't want to talk about it. However, I am grateful you did. It's something we all are concerned about. I have family in Aguililla Michoacan and I've heard horrible stories, and the situation hasn't changed.
    Anyway, I will not be going there so I won't worry too much. Like you said, even here in the US we have horrific things happen to innocent people.
    Thanks again for letting us know. I still plan on retiring soon in Chapala!

  • @snookie69md
    @snookie69md 4 роки тому

    Jerry, thank you so very much for your valuable video about the recent murders of American family in Mexico. As someone who is giving serious thought about moving to the Chapala Lake area, I've received way too many warnings and unfounded"advice" from friends NOT TO GO. However, your arguments about comparing crime (murders) in Mexico to those in the US is right on the money! Maybe it's because mass murders are happening every single day now, people in the U.S. seem to have grown numb. However, it's a very real and sad fact that in our country, you can be mowed down (randomly) in a school, a shopping center, your workplace, or a church of God. Add to that the 1,200 on average who are shot and killed by road rage each and every year on our highways. No. I'll take my chances ANY day in Mexico!
    Thanks again Jerry. I love your videos!!

  • @dinawhite5175
    @dinawhite5175 2 роки тому

    I just saw this video great job Jerry I often wondered about the cartels and I’m happy you reported this to us the United States is not safe these days very scary times so I believe you have to do what’s best for you without the fear of the worst case scenario as that can happen anywhere in this world!!

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  2 роки тому

      I want to share this video with you.How Safe Is Guadalajara for Travel? ua-cam.com/video/3HUoYPuLq4s/v-deo.html

  • @rebeccathompson5287
    @rebeccathompson5287 5 років тому +7

    Extremely well done video. Thank you Jerry and Lori.

  • @earthgirl7861
    @earthgirl7861 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for being straight forward. Honesty is best policy.

  • @marialuisadavid4880
    @marialuisadavid4880 5 років тому +2

    The problems with the group of people, originally started by a polygamous man excommunicated by the LDS in Utah,
    of whom several people were recently killed, have been intense and ongoing with the local community, not just with the drug cartels. In the 70s a member of the group became known as “the Charles Manson of México” after engaging in more than 25 murders on both sides of the border. More recently,
    Mexican officials found many illegal water wells drilled on their lands. A local ejido had recently sued the group for theft of water from the ejido’s lands. The group, which founded Colonia Le Barón, has been bad news around there.
    It is very unlikely that they were caught in crossfire. I’m NOT saying that those people deserved to be killed. But their group has a problematic history with their neighbors. It is also extremely possible that they were not killed by cartels at all.
    I’ve lived and traveled in México, including in Tijuana where my family was from, for a long time. I grew up in East Los Angeles. I don’t know many US expats in México. I feel perfectly safe here. I’ve never had any interactions with any cartel violence at all.
    But México, as you point out, is not for everyone. But then, neither is the USA.

  • @onehappykamper
    @onehappykamper 5 років тому +2

    Danger is everywhere. I left Mexico in 2015 because of the continued increase in crime. I have been living in Thailand for 4 years. There is little chance of me being killed by a bad guy with a gun, but a VERY HIGH chance of me being killed on the roads here in Thailand. In fact, in Chiang Mai, as a pedestrian, I was the victim of a hit and run. Riding my motorbike here (normal method of transport here) is a DAILY stressful situation. In Mexico, I may find myself in a dark street that didn't feel so good and after 10 minutes that feeling would pass and I would learn not to go there again. In Thailand, deadly roads can not be avoided. Every day is a dance with death. I am returning to Mexico next month :)

    • @hg-uj2cs
      @hg-uj2cs 4 роки тому +1

      I was in Phuket in 2001 for 2 weeks of scuba diving on a dive boat. We spent 5 days on land and traveled in a van for 40 miles from the hotel to the dive boat. Traveling 60 MPH, 5' off the bumper of the van in front of you was not comforting. A Canadian expat told me that if he was ever in an accident, he would grab his license plate and abandon his vehicle, since he would pay a lot of money, no matter if the accident was his fault or not. Personally, I feel very safe in Flagstaff Arizona and plan on living the rest of my life here, assuming we get a less stable genius in the White House in the next election.

  • @josephtorres3774
    @josephtorres3774 5 років тому +7

    Thanks Jerry for your honesty and perspective. But you did bring up Mexico's different laws from the U.S., particularly the 'auto accident' laws that will put you in jail if there is a bodily injury ('blood"). And the fact that you need to have a lawyer ready to bail you out AND represent you in COURT. That's a big deal and it might be a good idea for you to have another video with a Mexican lawyer that can explain some of the more 'common' problems that ex-pats can run into when they live in Mexico as well as the 'necessity' to retain legal counsel.The fact that you have to 'prove' your innocence when charged with an offense under Mexican law is frightening when one has always lived under a (American) system where the opposite is true.

    • @Cynthias_library
      @Cynthias_library 5 років тому +2

      Joseph Torres the US is more - if you’re white, you’re innocent until proven guilty, if you’re black or brown you are guilty

    • @suefrench8721
      @suefrench8721 Рік тому

      Most of the European countries operate the same as Mexico. British law, our laws in the US and Canada, in criminal law area, the charged person is innocent until proven by the government that they are guilty. If people want to stay out of jail in Mexico use the excellent bus service or taxis. And no road rage. Not worth it to even rent a car if you're in PV, for instance. We used to take the bus shopping for food and then take a cab back. And the local bus goes south to Mismaloya and all the way north past Bucerias, La Cruz Guanacaste, and Destiladeras Beach, Sayulita and San Paulo. The government websites for travelers should provide information on how to deal with Mexican law enforcement and Avocats as the lawyers are called.

  • @cheryls832
    @cheryls832 Рік тому +1

    Do you still feel safe after the recent cartel activity in Sinaloa?

  • @keneslinger5096
    @keneslinger5096 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your experiences with the people that are interested living in Mexico.

  • @robertmendoza656
    @robertmendoza656 5 років тому +1

    Jerry i couldn't of said any other way .great job of explaining ,I visit Michoacan once a year and never have any problems .I road there in June on my Harley Davidson.
    I had the best time of my life

  • @goku0728995
    @goku0728995 5 років тому +1

    Great video, thanks for sharing your experience.

  • @jmo2104
    @jmo2104 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for addressing this Jerry! I had totally given up on my search for a place to live in Mexico after hearing multiple stories of violence. There so much violence here in the States now that I'm sure it's not much difference. Sad but true Mexico is probably safer. anyway, thank you for your honesty and I can now again look at the possibility of moving there when I retire.

  • @azmisunshine
    @azmisunshine 5 років тому +3

    That’s what I tell people, Jerry. Between school shootings, grocery store and mall shootings, church shootings and workplace violence I think the two countries break even. I also Live in a small town outside of Detroit Michigan. If you watch the 11 o’clock news from Detroit it will show you just how violent our country can be as well. Like another poster said, you must always be aware of your surroundings. When you travel that applies even more. Common sense. Besides, if we all went around being scared all the time we would never enjoy so much of the beautiful world that there is to explore. Thank you for this video.

  • @paulramos2383
    @paulramos2383 5 років тому

    Thank you so much for the very up-to-date information Jerry. We recently bought a motorhome and are planning on driving it to the Lago Chapala area. It is comforting to know that we can proceed with our plans. BTW the beard looks good on you, it makes you look even smarter!

  • @djc7447
    @djc7447 5 років тому +1

    Jerry you did a great job with this calm and straight forward

  • @CachumaCarWash
    @CachumaCarWash 5 років тому +3

    . Thank you Jerry I didn’t feel you were being totally honest! After watching your video, I am coming for a vacation and explore relocating to Mexico. I hope to treat Laurie and you to lunch. I have tons of questions. I had been afraid to come to Mexico. Your video helped me put things into perspective. I am now planning my vacation at a resort and spa _ Chapala.😁💕

  • @jimmcsweeney9398
    @jimmcsweeney9398 5 років тому +1

    Best video ever Jerry. Well done. Thanks.

  • @Gimme_Cornbread
    @Gimme_Cornbread 3 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your experience. Wow! I just returned from visiting the Lake Chapala area. I went alone and I am a woman. Let me tell you that I felt 100 percent safer walking around the area than I do NOB. No creepy vibes from men, no bad gut feelings, nothing like that and I walked all the way from the Chapala malecon back to my hotel in Ajijic, alone (in the bike lane-only smooth surface haha). I think it is a wonderful beautiful place and I would consider living there. Your story and advice are very helpful though. So, thanks again for sharing!

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Donna and we are happy that you had a good time here. You are the greatest Donna

  • @ponchodavalos_re
    @ponchodavalos_re 4 роки тому

    Hi Jerry, I loved your video, very well explained !! Thank you for sharing this with the world and people who are afraid of my country.

  • @gigiguss8107
    @gigiguss8107 5 років тому +6

    Jerry I agree with you 100% I think unfortunately a lot of people that move here to Mexico do not have StreetSmarts and you definitely do need StreetSmarts. I am from Philadelphia and New Jersey area in the United States and if you don’t have StreetSmarts there you’re in trouble. I totally understand the situation the people who do business here in whatever business it is they are not interested in the ex-pats that live here they are interested in maintaining their turf and anyone that comes in and tries to remove the turf or do damage it’s going to be a war. I have four children and all four of them were raised in the suburbs of New Jersey and I am here to say that they do not have StreetSmarts for them it would be a difficult move and I discuss this with them and they have told me this. My personal experience I grew up in a rough neighborhood in Philadelphia learn how to take care of myself in many different ways so for me this is absolutely my backyard I love it here would never move back to the US unless something seriously happened that my children needed me other Then that I am here for life. Lovely Chapala love the Mexican people love everything about it. I live in Chapala because I choose to live a monks the majority of Mexicans

  • @dawnsmoke2586
    @dawnsmoke2586 5 років тому +1

    thanks for the honesty...see you in april or may in 2020 ... be looking for a sweet, little affordable place .. still very excited ...

  • @deborahquinette4569
    @deborahquinette4569 3 роки тому

    Hey Jerry ! Great video! Thank you 🙏

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  3 роки тому

      You are very welcome
      Why ex-pats are leaving Mexico
      Time For Ex-Pats To LEAVE Mexico And Go Home?
      ua-cam.com/video/wkf_x-TLR50/v-deo.html

  • @mjc42701
    @mjc42701 5 років тому

    Thank you for your honesty, I believe this is the best way to talk about the subject, like most that left a post, bad things happen everywhere, I live in and area where the D.C.snipers shot a man with in a quarter mile from me. You just have to use common sense and ask locals about travel.

  • @GrowingUpWithoutBorders
    @GrowingUpWithoutBorders 3 роки тому

    I guess this answers my question about whether or not we would consider moving to Mexico.

  • @bellanegrin3915
    @bellanegrin3915 3 роки тому

    SirdragomX is a former fed from the US. He has worked on the border for many years. Born in the US and is now a resident, married to a dual citizenship Mexican - American lady. He has a lot of information re: cartel activity and security and safety issues. He is worth a listen. Thank you Jerry. God bless to you and you wife for your "sticktoitiveness."

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  3 роки тому

      Thank you for taking the time to post this comment Lori and I appreciate that very much.

  • @El_Muchacho_Alegre
    @El_Muchacho_Alegre 5 років тому +3

    You're absolutely right theres is a unwritten code they won't touch you and they'll even look after you, but if you misbehave and cause problems that a different story.

  • @helenebarragan482
    @helenebarragan482 5 років тому +1

    A very nice and honest video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Gatolocofilms
    @Gatolocofilms 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for all your videos. We plan on honeymooning in Ajijic in March 2020 and hope to meet you and Lori.

  • @jerrybunger1311
    @jerrybunger1311 5 років тому +2

    Jerry, Thank you for this calming video. Your casual friend, Jerry

  • @davidbenson2224
    @davidbenson2224 5 років тому +5

    Thanks for some real, boots-on-the-ground truth, Jerry!

  • @bonitawauls6274
    @bonitawauls6274 4 роки тому

    Thank you for talking about your personal experience. I appreciate it.

  • @freddiet6807
    @freddiet6807 4 роки тому

    Thk you so much for talk, it really helps.
    My only question is, if you’re traveling from city to city, do recommend not driving at night ???
    Have a great Christmas and keep up the great videos.
    Peace brother

  • @dennisblank1451
    @dennisblank1451 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for talking about what happened in Mexico and your own personal experiences. People are too quick to judge and condemn all the Mexicans for what the Cartels do between each other. Sadly, if this would have happened in the State's it would not have made it on the news more than likely.

  • @jameslee7549
    @jameslee7549 5 років тому +1

    Love you and your videos! Love, Jim

  • @seeitwithme1412
    @seeitwithme1412 5 років тому +2

    Thank you Jerry for making this video. I have read that the family that got killed had previous run ins with the cartel. There is a UA-cam video about it.

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  5 років тому

      How to Retire in Mexico Featuring ua-cam.com/video/cvmJaL-h_9E/v-deo.html

  • @MrZeev76
    @MrZeev76 5 років тому +2

    Jerry, thanks again for another wonderful and informative video, but I lived in Chapala during that period. I recall that it began and occurred in late August of 2011 when the bad guys arrived. Sure it was bad, sure it was unsettling, but the majority of us 20,000 expats, here at Lake Chapala stayed put and did not leave. We, my family, had little kids in the Chapala schools at that time, and the schools did not close at all. The city of Chapala nor that of Ajijic was never shut down by the Cartel at all. Business went on as usual. The suggestion that Ajijic was shut down by the cartel is just an inaccurate exaggeration. Sure it was a nervous period but very short lived, the military came in and ran the creeps out of town. For about maybe a period of two weeks people were nervous about going out late at night. You mention the young men that were kidnapped and murdered, it was utterly horrible, YES. It was reported that there were 18 that were killed. Yes, that was a terrible incident, with a high death toll, but nothing worse than the many shootouts that occur yearly in the USA. In all honesty, yes there were a few expats that freaked out and fled the area, but they were just a small handful. Most of us stayed steadfast and it was a horrible but short lived period in the history of Chapala. That happened 8 years ago, things are different now. Yes, violence here could peak at any time, but you could be killed by any crazed gunman in the States at anytime, too. Life is too short to worry about such things. Just pick a place where you feel happy and comfortable. And enjoy the rest of your life.

    • @JerryBrownTravels
      @JerryBrownTravels  5 років тому

      Thank You

    • @MrZeev76
      @MrZeev76 5 років тому

      @mikebalko It was reported that they had been dismembered, probably shot in the head prior to that. When you drive to Gdl, there is a hotel called Eddy's Hotel, pink colored, on your right hand side, on its left side is a wall, an abandoned pick-up truck was found outside the wall, one morning in late August of 2011 with the 18 dismembered bodies in the back stuffed in trash bags. Yes, that is some heavy stuff, but it happens everywhere from time to time, remember John Cayce and Jeffrey Dahmer among the many other sickos.

    • @MrZeev76
      @MrZeev76 5 років тому

      @mikebalko Dude, I have heard that in most cases they are already dead before they chop them up, only the real bad guys are chopped up alive.

  • @rauldiaz2126
    @rauldiaz2126 5 років тому

    Thank you Browns you are so kind to inform the reality in our country. I love Axixic town you guys have made a great place to visit. I hope to meet you sometime. Saludos y abrazo.

  • @joy8star
    @joy8star 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this informative and objective video. The beard looks good!

  • @karlapatterson4474
    @karlapatterson4474 5 років тому

    Thank you Jerry! I've been researching a possible move to Mexico for awhile now and I am so tired of people who try to convince others that everything is roses and sunshine or dangerous and evil. I'll be in the lakeside area in February for a short visit to the area. Looking forward to talking with people who actually live there!

  • @creatorsist
    @creatorsist 5 років тому +1

    thanks Jerry u r so informative