No way!!!! I can't believe you did a video on Salina Stockade!! Yes!!! I met and have a picture with JD when I went to one of the very few Stockade games that was actually in Salina! It was a crazy time! Great job with the video! Also thank you for the shoutout!
@@t-squared6406 Thats awesome! I actually live 3 hours away, so I never made it out to much there. I made the drive for seeing the Salina Stockade as I knew craziness was happening and needed to see it lol
@@DJPez913 hey,I don't even know where to start.2012 I saw the Salina BJays summer league team.Free to get in,cute little stadium,no local coverage,nobody I talked to cared about the team,but it sure was fun.Not sure if you are familiar with Hays.I went to Hays Larks games 2009,10,11.That is incredible,free to get in,the team is starting up in a few days and you can watch them online live,I watch some of their games,they are exciting!!!
@@t-squared6406 I dont know why I never got notified of your comment reply but here I am reading it for the first time 8 months later haha. That is awesome! Yes I am very familiar with both those teams! I am a big summer woodbat fan and I even work with the MINK league which at least used to have teams in Kansas lol. I go to the NBC World series alot! I love woodbat and so I have traveled all over Kansas for it haha
Really enjoyed this, would enjoy seeing more coverage of independent baseball in general. Thanks! If I were to hazard a criticism, t'would solely be this is not long enough.
there isn't general coverage of tgem,you have to dig,you can go to oursportscentral,they focus on minor leagues,independent,some college leagues,good source!
God, I miss the Newark Bears so much. I got to see both Rickey and Jose play in Newark; indeed, I once saw Rickey lead off the bottom of the first with a triple when he was 44 years old. I'm so lucky that I got to watch one of the greatest players in the history of the game still having so much fun on the diamond at that age.
I suppose it was necessary to ask the question of "why are you involved with baseball" was needed to be asked because it helped direct the narrative... But anyone with a pulse and an IQ over 50 would know the answer. When you get older and you've accomplished a lot, you then get to choose to do something that'll make you happy
Love seeing my local St. Paul Saints and their league get some love! They got promoted to AAA in 21' and to this day I haven't decided which way I'd want it. There was definitely a charm to independent baseball, no doubt, but there is also excitement in watching guys like Jose Miranda & Royce Lewis before they got their shot in the majors.
I live just 12 miles away from the Southern Illinois Miners of the Frontier League. Great place to watch some sub-A ball and they have farmed out some major leaguers in their 15 years in existence as they got a lot of the Jr. College players that end up becoming top prospects for major league teams after a year or two with the Miners.
I strongly believe in independant baseball. I did see the Stockade playing in my hometown (Trois-Rivières Québec) which had a team in the Can-Am league. I don't mind the score: i like those players playing a sport they truely love ! The Grays were also a team without a home: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grays They were made of players who weren't selected by the other Can-Am league teams ^^
I had dinner with the managers of Equipe Quebec tonight near Chicago, who normally manage Quebec City and Trois-Rivieres. (Equipe Quebec was mainly formed from the QC and TR rosters, and played the first half of the season entirely on the road in the States, due to issues with the US/Canada border being closed.) Check them out when they return "home" (games played at both Stade Canac and Stade Quillorama) to Quebec next week!
@@jolietpinball7439 i used to be a big fan of Trois-Rivières until the pandemic ^^. I did follow closely this team when his coach was Pierre-Yves Laforest !! They won the title in 2015 in an exciting race to the title. I plan to see them in 2 weeks.
JD Droddy is a good friend of mine. He's one of the most interesting, if not THE most interesting people I've ever met. He's now the Pecos League adjudicator. He was also the manager of the 2013 Trinidad Triggers, the team that Fox Sports did a reality show on. So you can also add "Reality TV Star" to JD's resume. He was also an all-state football player in high school many years ago in Texas. Great guy for sure.
And there's 2-3 barnstorming teams facing Pecos, AA, and FL opposition every summer moving guys up. Its all worth checking out and what makes the minors great.
The 2022 Empire State Greys were a traveling road team in the Frontier League and they went 6-90 for a 0.063 win percentage. The team began the season 0-35.
We have a great independent league in metro Detroit and it's fun and economical to go to and it's great quality. Randy Dobnak of the Minnesota Twins was discovered there. USPBL is the name of the league
Now that I know the history of the Salina Stockade,let's see if the positives can be focused on,more readily. First,this team NEEDS a foundation to establish a fan base.Has anyone on this team addressed this issue? Second,whats going on with the team's talent scouts? I'm pretty sure that this team can provide an opportunity for young men,across the socio-economic spectrum of the United States...who simply want to play baseball. Thirdly, how's the coaching staff abilities of developing team fundamentals? As the team WILL develop, bringing me to the final point, ADVERTISEMENT for the Salina Stockade WILL be needed. Concession Stands to be considered later,HUA?! Hey,growing up in Chicago,watching the White Sox, I remember one of MLB's great owners like Bill Veeck and his promotion gimics of having the Chicago White Sox team to wear collared uniforms with short pant,as jerseys(I wouldn't advise for the Salina Stockade...but it was noticeable).Also,do not rule out fan investments.
just a minor point as a native Arizonian, the "g" in saguaro is silent. Also if you're looking for more recent independent league success story, David Peralta is a good case study.
As someone from the east coast, I admittedly have little experience with saguaros (or cacti of any kind, for that matter), so that's my bad. And I'll have to check out David Peralta's story!
I had a feeling it was this team,the ScWilkes Barre,a AAA team I don't believe had a home game because their stadium was being rebuilt,I believe there have been traveling semi-pro or indy teams in the past!
good video, but I'd like to hear more of the details behind some of the odd things you mentioned, like why they were considered the away team even in their own park
I just realized that while I put the link to the Ringer article containing the source, I forgot to include the direct link! Here you go: claydavenport.com/archives/377 Note that these rankings were made prior to the 2017 season. I tried to find more recent rankings, but wasn't able to come up with anything.
When I went to one of the only Salina Stockade games that was actually in Salina, Ben sat right behind my dad and I. It was a smallish concourse and not many people there so we thought it was very odd as we didnt know it was him yet. We ended up moving seats because he kept talking to people right next us and we were just trying to enjoy the game. He quoted me in his article as well which was sick! Although I think it is funny that in his article he jokes about how no one wants a picture with JD the coach, but that very day I took a photo with him! Not only was I excited because a Pecos League team was playing in the American Association (my two favorite leagues with both having teams in Kansas where I lived at the time), but also I had seen JD on a docuseries of him coaching in the Pecos League. So I had to get a picture with him once I saw the opportunity! I also got a ball signed by the coach of Wichita who they were playing which was Pete Rose Jr! The concession stand was a table with someone just sitting there with chips water and funny enough beer. I didnt get any beer though because I was driving the 3 hours back home after the game lol. They also had hats and I collect hats of teams I go to home games of. But in my collection I only want to get the hat that the home team wore that game and they werent selling that one. So thankfully I had met the commissioner of the Pecos League before and was able to get one of the hats via him! My dad and I thought we were just going to some stupid game that we only cared about, so when that article came out we were blown away! Especially with how much traction it got! I was in college at the time and my friend at lunch was reading that article and he showed me it saying "this sounds like a game you should have gone to" and he lost it when I told him I did and showed him photos lol
@@DJPez913 Wow sounds like a fun experience at the game! And now you have an internet footprint as they say, in that article! I've really got to get myself out to some non MLB games. For the first time in my life after I recently moved I live closer to a minor league team than a major league team, hence why I haven't gone to much non MLB games.
I kept waiting for the part where they were forced to recruit winos to pitch and vagrants for the outfield when I realized homeless just meant not having a home field.
So were they just never at home or were they always visitors (as in bat in top of inning every game)? If that's true, that's bullshit. Already had enough disadvantage....
Support your local independent ball clubs, folks
they get no respect,little coverage,lots of apathy,fun to go see but we are probably in the minority
Mine shut down in 2019, I loved going to there games though
Bring back the Ft Worth Cats!! I miss playing at LaGrave Field. Even Jose Canseco was there!
@@WaltherPPK909 It's cool,they play really hard,are accessible,cheap or free tickets,fun!!!
You mean my very own Walla Walla Sweets?
Personally I'd love to see J.D. Droddy replace Tony La Russa in Chicago
That's a terrific idea
I'd settle for a wet sponge to replace la russa
100%
Larussa led us to the playoffs stop hating
No way!!!! I can't believe you did a video on Salina Stockade!! Yes!!! I met and have a picture with JD when I went to one of the very few Stockade games that was actually in Salina! It was a crazy time! Great job with the video! Also thank you for the shoutout!
Thanks for bringing them to my attention!
I lived in Salina and saw the summer league BJays!
@@t-squared6406 Thats awesome! I actually live 3 hours away, so I never made it out to much there. I made the drive for seeing the Salina Stockade as I knew craziness was happening and needed to see it lol
@@DJPez913 hey,I don't even know where to start.2012 I saw the Salina BJays summer league team.Free to get in,cute little stadium,no local coverage,nobody I talked to cared about the team,but it sure was fun.Not sure if you are familiar with Hays.I went to Hays Larks games 2009,10,11.That is incredible,free to get in,the team is starting up in a few days and you can watch them online live,I watch some of their games,they are exciting!!!
@@t-squared6406 I dont know why I never got notified of your comment reply but here I am reading it for the first time 8 months later haha. That is awesome! Yes I am very familiar with both those teams! I am a big summer woodbat fan and I even work with the MINK league which at least used to have teams in Kansas lol. I go to the NBC World series alot! I love woodbat and so I have traveled all over Kansas for it haha
Really enjoyed this, would enjoy seeing more coverage of independent baseball in general.
Thanks!
If I were to hazard a criticism, t'would solely be this is not long enough.
there isn't general coverage of tgem,you have to dig,you can go to oursportscentral,they focus on minor leagues,independent,some college leagues,good source!
I’ve only watched 2 minutes so far and this is already one of the best videos I’ve ever seen
God, I miss the Newark Bears so much. I got to see both Rickey and Jose play in Newark; indeed, I once saw Rickey lead off the bottom of the first with a triple when he was 44 years old. I'm so lucky that I got to watch one of the greatest players in the history of the game still having so much fun on the diamond at that age.
I live 100 miles away from Salina, and I've somehow never heard of this.
J.D. Sounds like a great guy
Playing the game even though the odds aren't with them. That's the spirit of baseball. ⚾
I suppose it was necessary to ask the question of "why are you involved with baseball" was needed to be asked because it helped direct the narrative... But anyone with a pulse and an IQ over 50 would know the answer.
When you get older and you've accomplished a lot, you then get to choose to do something that'll make you happy
Love these random stories from Indy ball! Such a chaotic world
Salina Stockade video lesss go!!!
This was another really good video. Makes me want more off the beaten path baseball stories like the Savannah Bananas.
This was soooooo cool. I would love to see more independent ball videos.
you can go to oursportscentral for coverage,info,good source
@@t-squared6406 thx
@@t-squared6406 can u send the link to the channel?
@@Flyersfan28 just goto oursportscentral.com
@@t-squared6406 thx
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Has anybody else heard of the colorado silver bullets
Dang that was good
Love seeing my local St. Paul Saints and their league get some love!
They got promoted to AAA in 21' and to this day I haven't decided which way I'd want it. There was definitely a charm to independent baseball, no doubt, but there is also excitement in watching guys like Jose Miranda & Royce Lewis before they got their shot in the majors.
I live just 12 miles away from the Southern Illinois Miners of the Frontier League. Great place to watch some sub-A ball and they have farmed out some major leaguers in their 15 years in existence as they got a lot of the Jr. College players that end up becoming top prospects for major league teams after a year or two with the Miners.
This is a great video. Man that would be a cool autograph to get J.D. Droddy, and he lives in the same state as me.
just think if you got a team signed ball,that would be a novelty
Those guys are living my dream
You and Foolish Baseball need to collab!
I strongly believe in independant baseball. I did see the Stockade playing in my hometown (Trois-Rivières Québec) which had a team in the Can-Am league. I don't mind the score: i like those players playing a sport they truely love !
The Grays were also a team without a home:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grays
They were made of players who weren't selected by the other Can-Am league teams ^^
I had dinner with the managers of Equipe Quebec tonight near Chicago, who normally manage Quebec City and Trois-Rivieres. (Equipe Quebec was mainly formed from the QC and TR rosters, and played the first half of the season entirely on the road in the States, due to issues with the US/Canada border being closed.) Check them out when they return "home" (games played at both Stade Canac and Stade Quillorama) to Quebec next week!
The Frontier League also had a traveling team without a home, with the same name:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Greys
@@jolietpinball7439 i used to be a big fan of Trois-Rivières until the pandemic ^^. I did follow closely this team when his coach was Pierre-Yves Laforest !! They won the title in 2015 in an exciting race to the title. I plan to see them in 2 weeks.
JD Droddy is a good friend of mine. He's one of the most interesting, if not THE most interesting people I've ever met. He's now the Pecos League adjudicator. He was also the manager of the 2013 Trinidad Triggers, the team that Fox Sports did a reality show on. So you can also add "Reality TV Star" to JD's resume. He was also an all-state football player in high school many years ago in Texas. Great guy for sure.
And there's 2-3 barnstorming teams facing Pecos, AA, and FL opposition every summer moving guys up. Its all worth checking out and what makes the minors great.
The 2022 Empire State Greys were a traveling road team in the Frontier League and they went 6-90 for a 0.063 win percentage. The team began the season 0-35.
We have a great independent league in metro Detroit and it's fun and economical to go to and it's great quality. Randy Dobnak of the Minnesota Twins was discovered there. USPBL is the name of the league
Check out the Houston Apollo’s. They are doing the same thing.
The California League is NOT an indy. league - you showed their logo @ 2:13
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_League
Now that I know the history of the Salina Stockade,let's see if the positives can be focused on,more readily. First,this team NEEDS a foundation to establish a fan base.Has anyone on this team addressed this issue? Second,whats going on with the team's talent scouts? I'm pretty sure that this team can provide an opportunity for young men,across the socio-economic spectrum of the United States...who simply want to play baseball. Thirdly, how's the coaching staff abilities of developing team fundamentals? As the team WILL develop, bringing me to the final point, ADVERTISEMENT for the Salina Stockade WILL be needed. Concession Stands to be considered later,HUA?! Hey,growing up in Chicago,watching the White Sox, I remember one of MLB's great owners like Bill Veeck and his promotion gimics of having the Chicago White Sox team to wear collared uniforms with short pant,as jerseys(I wouldn't advise for the Salina Stockade...but it was noticeable).Also,do not rule out fan investments.
I lived there,went to summer league games,the reception was meh out there!
6:53 did Indians pitcher nick Wittgren and former brewer Tyler Saladino have a kid
Clicked this video because I saw Salina in the thumbnail and I was like "Salina, Kansas?"
@5:30 You're missing the 'H' in 'accomplishments.'
Never been prouder to be from Salina 😎😎
Not what I thought you meant by "homeless team".
The California League was never an independent league.
Baseball is not a waist oft time its American culture.
The Blue Jays didn’t have a home field for a year and half.🙄
we have found, the worlds most interesting man
Pronounced sa-LEE-nas. You fool. 😆
I hear Trever Bauer maybe a free agent soon.
I actually have a stockade jersey
I love your channel. I've seen all of your videos.
I'm glad you enjoy them!
just a minor point as a native Arizonian, the "g" in saguaro is silent. Also if you're looking for more recent independent league success story, David Peralta is a good case study.
As someone from the east coast, I admittedly have little experience with saguaros (or cacti of any kind, for that matter), so that's my bad. And I'll have to check out David Peralta's story!
Interesting
7:29 That's the Rocky MOUNT Pines, not Rocky Mountain. They're out of Rocky Mount, NC...in fact, they would make a great video topic as well.
Is that clay buccholz @9:11?
This is a great video!!
pecos league is the best!
Pecos league love 🎉
I had a feeling it was this team,the ScWilkes Barre,a AAA team I don't believe had a home game because their stadium was being rebuilt,I believe there have been traveling semi-pro or indy teams in the past!
As someone who lived in Salina, I think what we're most known for is the Land Institute.
Excellent!!
Totally take a look at the road warriors from the Atlantic league (I believe they used to be the barnstormers, then switched to a road only team)
Are the games broadcasted online? If so, where?
good video, but I'd like to hear more of the details behind some of the odd things you mentioned, like why they were considered the away team even in their own park
That was awesome. But too short. I wanna see more about these guys
babe wake up. new baseball historian video
I like the old Syracuse Chiefs footage lol
wish this video was a lot longer, other than that loved it
Congratulations on 10K man
Love your videos. Great job.
I wish football did this
Million dollar idea
Ayo he just like me
Can anyone find the source for 3:00? I can’t seem to find it
I just realized that while I put the link to the Ringer article containing the source, I forgot to include the direct link! Here you go: claydavenport.com/archives/377
Note that these rankings were made prior to the 2017 season. I tried to find more recent rankings, but wasn't able to come up with anything.
@@BaseballHistorian thanks!
A similar situation has existed for the Atlantic League's Road Warriors but their budget is at least comparable to that of the other clubs.
I remember seeing that,crazy to always be on the road!
Great video
for a moment there I thought that this would be about the Blue Jays
Hopefully the Blue Jays are more temporarily displaced than full-on homeless
@@BaseballHistorian I sure hope so
the team as it is will be incomplete without Rogers Centre
great video! The guy who wrote the original article in the Ringer hosts the baseball podcast Effectively Wild
I'm a big fan of Ben Lindbergh's work, he's an excellent writer
When I went to one of the only Salina Stockade games that was actually in Salina, Ben sat right behind my dad and I. It was a smallish concourse and not many people there so we thought it was very odd as we didnt know it was him yet. We ended up moving seats because he kept talking to people right next us and we were just trying to enjoy the game. He quoted me in his article as well which was sick! Although I think it is funny that in his article he jokes about how no one wants a picture with JD the coach, but that very day I took a photo with him! Not only was I excited because a Pecos League team was playing in the American Association (my two favorite leagues with both having teams in Kansas where I lived at the time), but also I had seen JD on a docuseries of him coaching in the Pecos League. So I had to get a picture with him once I saw the opportunity! I also got a ball signed by the coach of Wichita who they were playing which was Pete Rose Jr! The concession stand was a table with someone just sitting there with chips water and funny enough beer. I didnt get any beer though because I was driving the 3 hours back home after the game lol. They also had hats and I collect hats of teams I go to home games of. But in my collection I only want to get the hat that the home team wore that game and they werent selling that one. So thankfully I had met the commissioner of the Pecos League before and was able to get one of the hats via him! My dad and I thought we were just going to some stupid game that we only cared about, so when that article came out we were blown away! Especially with how much traction it got! I was in college at the time and my friend at lunch was reading that article and he showed me it saying "this sounds like a game you should have gone to" and he lost it when I told him I did and showed him photos lol
@@DJPez913 Wow sounds like a fun experience at the game! And now you have an internet footprint as they say, in that article! I've really got to get myself out to some non MLB games. For the first time in my life after I recently moved I live closer to a minor league team than a major league team, hence why I haven't gone to much non MLB games.
@@WaffleLover-my1hi Yeah you for sure should go to that minor league team! Minor league games are so much fun and also cheap haha
I kept waiting for the part where they were forced to recruit winos to pitch and vagrants for the outfield when I realized homeless just meant not having a home field.
So were they just never at home or were they always visitors (as in bat in top of inning every game)?
If that's true, that's bullshit. Already had enough disadvantage....
I believe they might have had a few and I mean a few home games!
@@t-squared6406 But when they were at the other team's park were they always visitors, ie first bat?
@@pullt as far as I know,they had like 90% road games one season
@@t-squared6406 yes, I realize they played on the road, but were they always visitors, ie batted first?
@@pullt I believe they always did
that scene where the logos revolve around the word independent baseball was making me nauseous