The Rise and Fall (and Rise Again) of Barry Zito

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  • Опубліковано 26 чер 2023
  • Depending on who you ask, Barry Zito is either one of the best arms of the early 2000s, or one of the bigger letdowns in recent baseball history. He’s been at the top of the game, and as close to the bottom as a player can get. But one thing’s for sure: without him, the Giants dynasty of the early 2010s never would’ve happened.
    This video follows the MLB career of one of the most iconic pitchers in Oakland A's AND San Francisco Giants history. He won Cy Young awards, World Series rings, and the hearts of thousands. And yet, he remains a mystery to most. Let's talk about him.
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    "Howling (Sting)" - Gunnar Olsen
    "35,000 Feet" - The Mini Vandals
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    "How We Like It" - Dan Lebowitz
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  • @DrakeHollowayMusic
    @DrakeHollowayMusic Рік тому +141

    Thanks for making this. Very tasteful and I appreciate seeing my journey all in one very well done video!

    • @BaseballHistorian
      @BaseballHistorian  Рік тому +21

      Oh wow thank you! I hope I did the story justice.

    • @ethanniedorowski116
      @ethanniedorowski116 Рік тому +4

      Almost as good as the curve (almost)
      Barry Zito = Uncle Charlie
      As a soxs fan I never wanted to see Barry pitch... we could never hit lefty pitchers with good breaking balls... an he had the best

  • @RBT
    @RBT Рік тому +447

    Did not expect to hear my 16 year old self’s analysis on the loss of Nick Punto today

    • @noahmcdowell2852
      @noahmcdowell2852 Рік тому +13

      What’s up man. I didn’t expect it either

    • @AndThatsBaseball
      @AndThatsBaseball Рік тому +27

      That clip is such an unreal pull

    • @richardobardo8617
      @richardobardo8617 Рік тому +3

      I don’t think any of us were but we were all happy to see it 😂

    • @grahmthrush4924
      @grahmthrush4924 Рік тому

      Amazing congrats on your success!

    • @CacophonyOfDestruction
      @CacophonyOfDestruction Рік тому +1

      For what it’s worth I hadn’t heard Pedro Ciraco’s name in forever. As a lifelong Yankee fan I remember him coming up with Boston and looking scary as hell to deal with in the future. Like the next Garciaparra or Pedroia on his way up that we would have to now deal with for years. Then he suddenly disappeared from Boston to my great relief. Always wondered what happened there.

  • @EricWBurton
    @EricWBurton Рік тому +39

    Giants fans will never forget Zito. I bet the same is true for A's fans. He's a bay area hall of famer.

  • @drewbaby299
    @drewbaby299 Рік тому +138

    As a Giants fan, all those years of him being bad paid off on the end. The 2012 playoffs erased all those bad memories of him getting shelled.

    • @ericwisniewski2636
      @ericwisniewski2636 Рік тому +3

      100 percent

    • @douglasjacobson676
      @douglasjacobson676 Рік тому +1

      Yeah postseason success can erase 63 wins in 7 years for $ 130 Million. I was always a big fan, partly because it's hard not to root for such a nice guy

    • @TPTGopher
      @TPTGopher Рік тому +5

      Zito has to be historically unique in that, while he was a "bust" who the team had already succeeded "in spite of" overall, in the two games Giants fans had dreamed of him pitching when they signed him, he literally drove in more runs than he allowed.

    • @douglasjacobson676
      @douglasjacobson676 Рік тому

      @@TPTGopher ".. historically unique" is term that perfectly suits Barry Zito. From his up & down career, record setting contract ,& a postseason pitching repitiore that included a more than serviceable 83mph fastball, Barry Zito is "historically Bay Area"

    • @jeffrey.a.hanson
      @jeffrey.a.hanson Рік тому

      That’s sports. Who is Brad Lidge? The Astros guy who gave up the Pujols HR… or the dominant Phillies closer who finished out the WS?

  • @StarkRavingSports
    @StarkRavingSports Рік тому +7

    Kid RBT is the real star of this video

  • @SkilesHasFun
    @SkilesHasFun Рік тому +7

    "The story of Barry Zito begins with Nat King Cole" is one of the most preposterous sentences I've ever heard. Why are baseball people so weird? I love it. Great video.

  • @JWD1992
    @JWD1992 Рік тому +28

    Zito, Hudson, and Mulder had way more to do with the success of the 2002 A's than Scott Hatteberg walking... (Not a knock on Scott, but on the Moneyball book and movie.)

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 Рік тому +6

      Big time, the OBP gets kind of overblown when they neglected the hitting involved as well. Hatteberg was okay but he doesn't hold a candle to Tejada and Chavez who had done more to produce those runs, roided up or not.

  • @_heffe_
    @_heffe_ Рік тому +7

    Giants fan here.. I cursed Zito sooooo many times.. but all was forgiven game 5 of the 2012 NLDS. That made all of it worth it.

  • @yawnymoon3116
    @yawnymoon3116 Рік тому +61

    Being an A's fan pretty much means seeing all the great players you had go on to bigger and better things 😢

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 Рік тому +3

      Man, I'm not even a huge baseball fan...minus the great baseball youtubers....but you guys in Oakland have it rough as fans. Just seems so unfair.

    • @daveweisbrich1769
      @daveweisbrich1769 11 місяців тому +1

      Zito had his best years in Oakland.

    • @yawnymoon3116
      @yawnymoon3116 11 місяців тому

      @daveweisbrich1769 he definitely did but he won a title in San Fran

  • @BaseballAF
    @BaseballAF Рік тому +25

    It's funny, I was just looking at Barry Zito's baseball reference page and thought to myself: "I wonder if someone will put together an almost 24 minute long video about Barry Zito?"
    I'm glad to see it was done.

  • @coreygilliam8533
    @coreygilliam8533 Рік тому +10

    Card fan here. Was like 22/23 watching that game. Loved zito. Who didn't. I wanted him to do well. Low key so happy he pitched out his mind that game

  • @Snuckster2
    @Snuckster2 Рік тому +25

    Zarry Bito
    came in from bizarro world to save the day
    been a Giants fan since 1987 and one of my all time favorite moments is the slight expression he makes when he notices Cardinals 3B not playing in and he legs out a bunt single

  • @ot63
    @ot63 Рік тому +9

    Loved hearing his story in Moneyball... (crickets)

  • @civilwarwasaninsidejob7405
    @civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 Рік тому +3

    Barry Zito married a girl from my home area in Southeast Missouri. He was hanging out at our local bar during their wedding week. He mentioned several times how bad he felt about his play in San Fran under that contract. Super nice guy and paid for beers and bologna burgers for every at the bar!

  • @Dopethrone_Wizard
    @Dopethrone_Wizard Рік тому +18

    Barry Zito was my favorite player as a kid. That 12-6 was insane. Thank you for the great video.

  • @durkadurkastan
    @durkadurkastan Рік тому +4

    127 million dollar contract but it was worth it seeing redemption in Game 5 of the LCS. He glanced down 3rd base and said to himself in Griswold fashion: "This is Crazy...This is Crazy!". As much as Vogelsong and Scutaro were awesome that year Zito was why they won.

  • @RetroBaseball
    @RetroBaseball Рік тому +16

    The goat has returned!

  • @SenorTortas
    @SenorTortas Рік тому +29

    I think what I love most about this beautiful sport is how it constantly humbles you, yet how it constantly seems to give you the opportunity to redeem yourself in the biggest moments

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 Рік тому +6

    Giants fan here. Thanks for posting this.

  • @zappajohns4600
    @zappajohns4600 Рік тому +7

    as a giants fan he's always gonna be an important piece to us of that world series run

  • @kimblandino
    @kimblandino Рік тому +20

    One of the greatest 12-6 curveballs ever.

    • @LaughingBull980
      @LaughingBull980 Рік тому

      Was it 12-6? To me it looked 11-5 angle 📐

    • @GaryBowen00
      @GaryBowen00 Рік тому +2

      What a great comment and thank you for the laugh. That 12 to 6 curve is so rare to see used as very few pitchers are able to create enough speed difference without it looking like a batting practice pitch. You'll see mostly left-handers use it outside of maybe Clayton Kershaw on the right-handed side.
      Now if you move your fingers slightly over you can have 11 to 5 or even 10 to 4 but it won't drop as much and to get the angle on it the pitch has to be thrown harder which makes it flatten out a bit. Past that point it almost becomes a sweeper but it gets hammered by staying in the strike zone too long.
      Watch Clayton Kershaw throw one though and it's a joy.

    • @billcosby668
      @billcosby668 Рік тому +1

      @@GaryBowen00a just as good option to witness a true 12-6 curve is just watching videos of Wainwright’s Curve.

  • @jamesgoss1860
    @jamesgoss1860 Рік тому +1

    I never laughed harder at a baseball moment than Zito hitting an RBI single off Verlander in the World Series. It still makes me smile thinking about it.

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic Рік тому +1

    Barry's curveball ALWAYS left in my awe. That thing was absolutely incredible.

  • @jonhunt2609
    @jonhunt2609 Рік тому +9

    Amazing content, only note was that Cabrera was AL MVP in 2012, Verlander was 2011

    • @jarrettborkowski8658
      @jarrettborkowski8658 Рік тому

      At that point, Verlander was the MVP. Cabrera hadn’t been named MVP yet. That happens after the World Series.

  • @arthurcheater3359
    @arthurcheater3359 Рік тому +3

    Big Three Mulder, Hudson, Zito, was such a bittersweet era. They couldn't make it to the WS because the A's lacked offense built for the playoffs. Their Moneyball approach has proven effective for the regular season only.
    I still have my Barry Zito tie that the A's gave away on a Father's Day at their stadium.

  • @joejones7852
    @joejones7852 Рік тому +5

    His 2017 EP is really fantastic. Better musician then player tbh

  • @Ares14
    @Ares14 Рік тому +10

    I remember it like it was yesterday, opening day 2007... I was in high school and decided to leave early to watch the game at home. Skipped school just to watch Zito get shelled, a precursor to what his career would be like in SF outside of his 2012 performance against the Cardinals.

  • @modernranger1558
    @modernranger1558 Рік тому +1

    My dad said it I think the best way possible. For as much as Barry Zito struggled during his time in SF, you pay players in the hopes to win a championship, and he did exactly that. Dude will always be remembered fondly by my dad and I.

  • @youraverageguy7842
    @youraverageguy7842 Рік тому +5

    I feel like Edgar Martinez would be a great video considering how he was signed

  • @user-cv8qe9ru8c
    @user-cv8qe9ru8c Рік тому +1

    Oh hellz ya. Loved Barry back in the day

  • @AkelaTalamasca
    @AkelaTalamasca Рік тому +2

    This was an excellent script, sir, and I'm a new follower!

  • @JawaPenguin16
    @JawaPenguin16 Рік тому +2

    Barry had a very 'baseball" career. Highs, lows. and incredible moments.

  • @PrimarySweeper13
    @PrimarySweeper13 Рік тому +2

    A’s legend

  • @komickaze85
    @komickaze85 Рік тому +1

    I always liked Barry Zito. He was a lefty, like me, and he had a curveball I could only dream of being able to throw. He had ups and downs, but overall was a great pitcher who deserved all the success he got. Glad he got to redeem himself in 2012. And to beat Verlander (who I've always seen as somewhat arrogant) was a treat. Just like when Lackey beat him in the 2013 ALCS 1-0.

  • @Ouijawii
    @Ouijawii Рік тому +13

    Another awesome video! Would like to suggest a look at Kevin Millar, Edgar Martinez or Ron Mahay at some point, all three had interesting career arcs.

    • @jamesesterline
      @jamesesterline Рік тому +3

      Millar would be interesting, went from being an undrafted free agent and becoming a replacement player during the 1994 strike (and thus not being able to join the MLBPA) to having a solid career and even winning a World Series with the Red Sox.

  • @LeeCahalan-kc8mo
    @LeeCahalan-kc8mo 10 місяців тому

    Thank you.
    Hav always been a fan of Bàrry Zito. I felt reðeemed in 2014 when he kicked off the Giants sweep in the Series

  • @mateoneedham6807
    @mateoneedham6807 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Kyde3
    @Kyde3 Рік тому +2

    still one of my fav pitchers

  • @bobbyverdin7915
    @bobbyverdin7915 Рік тому

    Zito was my favorite pitcher back in 2002 when I fell in love with the game at the age of 13. This was a fun look back.

  • @emancify
    @emancify 11 місяців тому

    Great job on making this video. Barry Zito really was an enigma of some sort and you were able to make sense of this. Well done !!

  • @MaxCubeGaming
    @MaxCubeGaming 11 місяців тому

    Growing up he was one of my favorite pitchers , I am a lefty myself with a natural curveball . So I studied lots of his pitching

  • @DipreG
    @DipreG Рік тому

    This video made me happy. Zito was part of the time when I really fell in love with baseball

  • @colbs237
    @colbs237 6 місяців тому

    This is great :) I like the way you presented your story of him, the way it flows and the questions it asks and answers. Very impressive!
    And, thank you very much. Barry Zito is one of my favorite players, and his story is one of my favorites to tell :) I am now a new subscriber :)

  • @franguidry2017
    @franguidry2017 Рік тому

    Another great video !

  • @sporer_
    @sporer_ Рік тому +3

    *cries in Tigers fan*

  • @Brooklynquietmoney
    @Brooklynquietmoney Рік тому +1

    Great video brother I loved that big 3 even as a yankee fan those A’s teams were fun

  • @redhoode.n.y.6314
    @redhoode.n.y.6314 2 місяці тому

    Great vid man

  • @Ehanke3
    @Ehanke3 Рік тому +1

    amazing video

  • @robertcabrera4760
    @robertcabrera4760 6 місяців тому

    I pitched with Zito at LA Pierce Community College. Dude was pretty cool. If ny memory serves me right, he carried his guitar around more than his glove.

  • @danib712
    @danib712 4 місяці тому

    As a giants fan watching Barry go from zero to hero was amazing 🥹

  • @jaylenbarnes2.079
    @jaylenbarnes2.079 Рік тому +2

    Yay another Historian video

  • @MikeSuth4040
    @MikeSuth4040 Рік тому

    I used to watch Barry Zito when I was a kid at the Oakland Coliseum. He was one of the best pitchers in the early 2000's and no one talked about him. He was so underrated.

  • @spoonsz
    @spoonsz Рік тому

    Great video! Zito is a legend

  • @CMBlue
    @CMBlue 7 місяців тому

    One of the most underrated career arcs in the modern era.

  • @thetempest33ify
    @thetempest33ify 11 місяців тому

    Even as a Dodgers fan, I get a little choked up at his redemption arc. Respect.

  • @tajr7153
    @tajr7153 Рік тому +2

    Contractually Barry was a bust in SF, but any Giants fan would admire him solely off that 2012 redemption run. Winning heals lol

  • @andrews8464
    @andrews8464 Рік тому

    Great content 👍

  • @reidb6327
    @reidb6327 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @themiddlecase
    @themiddlecase Рік тому

    As a Tigers fan, that 2012 series definitely brings back some painful memories. That said, I can appreciate the comeback it was for Zito. He owned that postseason.

  • @scoremat
    @scoremat 9 місяців тому

    Zito - a great redemption story. A bad contract to an aging/declining talent... but came thru in 2012. Not my favorite Giant by any detect, and admittedly in my youth I throw vitriol good was. Everything happens for a reason! Life lessons are everywhere... congrats, Zito

  • @Kingbossdon
    @Kingbossdon 2 місяці тому

    I watched that Oakland A's team, Tim Hudson Barry Zito Mark Molder, they were scary good I remember when it came down was Barry Zito gonna sign with the Mets or Giants when he choose the Giants I was mad because he was one of my favorite pitches in the game and especially if they had him with the Mets rotation

  • @jonasirw1
    @jonasirw1 Рік тому

    Excellent job

  • @jesusduran6480
    @jesusduran6480 11 місяців тому

    Great vid. Loved the guy. Hated the contract. Came thru when it mattered most
    #RallyZito

  • @jctrock
    @jctrock 11 місяців тому

    His 2012 first half of the regular was so good he had 10 wins. He did a lot for the Giants vs the Reds in the playoffs. They were 1 game away from elimination. The 2012 World Series game was epic!

  • @FourFour2theFloor
    @FourFour2theFloor Рік тому

    Being from the bay I got to see both sides of Barry. He was such a unique player and person I'm very glad he got his redemption in 2012

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 Рік тому

    Didn’t know his upbringing really, a well made video and man his curve was definitely nasty.

  • @connorboyle3027
    @connorboyle3027 11 місяців тому

    Seeing that Posey injury is still brutal all these years later. That 2011 team was their best team of that run and had a great chance for a repeat until the Posey injury

  • @silentsnake214
    @silentsnake214 Рік тому

    Great video of Barry zett

  • @SteefPip
    @SteefPip Рік тому

    I like that saying, Zito's career was like his curveball. It hit the plate though and bounced really high at the end.

  • @tpgorman15
    @tpgorman15 Рік тому

    Kids today will never know the glory of seeing a Barry Zito 12 to 6 hook freeze even the greatest hitters. Those A’s teams are one of the biggest what IFs in baseball history after the 94 Expos and 95-97 Cleveland teams.

  • @evolancer211
    @evolancer211 6 днів тому

    Our dynastic stretch was damn amazing, but you know what they say here. We are an even year team!

  • @Quakerman14
    @Quakerman14 11 місяців тому

    I was at the 10 year reunion. It was great.

  • @Crunkboy415
    @Crunkboy415 Рік тому

    As a long time Giants fan, we all are grateful to the Z-Man for saving 2012, and the Panda for making it fun. Oh and Matt Cain's perfect game!🤣

  • @Kyitsui77
    @Kyitsui77 11 місяців тому

    That contract, bad or not, paved the way to that dynasty

  • @bayareasportsfan04
    @bayareasportsfan04 11 місяців тому

    Man that 2012 run was a treat to watch. So many great moments.
    Also fun fact: I was at Zito's last game (as mentioned at 22:26). The final score ended up being 14-10, with a game-winning grand slam being hit by Jarrett Parker of all people. Safe to say both Hudson and Zito didn't really have a great game lol

  • @e93sports80
    @e93sports80 Рік тому

    Just subbed.

  • @Extinguisher10
    @Extinguisher10 Рік тому

    Holy S that's a young @RBT !!

  • @TCUsouthpaw
    @TCUsouthpaw Рік тому +2

    Interesting how he tied verlander for most losses that year. A first ballot hof’er.

    • @wyssmaster
      @wyssmaster Рік тому

      More proof that a pitcher's record is a reflection of his team moreso than his performance

    • @saviorofs0ng
      @saviorofs0ng 9 місяців тому

      @@wyssmaster more proof that solely looking at one stat (team stats too) is also not indicative of performance. im glad we're doing away with giving so many cy young votes to >15-win pitchers with >4 ERAs and whatnot

  • @taylorcarnelison749
    @taylorcarnelison749 Рік тому

    The 2012 ALCS haunts me as a cards fan forever

  • @EatMorePizzaNow
    @EatMorePizzaNow 2 місяці тому

    To quote Gary Radnich "126 million!"
    He was just good enough to not be bad.

  • @6thwilbury2331
    @6thwilbury2331 Рік тому

    I want to know who shot the video footage at 14:45. Clearly, they focused on the wall in the background and not the subject.

  • @user-rc4lc3ds9t
    @user-rc4lc3ds9t 11 місяців тому

    Cool

  • @jamesrichardson381
    @jamesrichardson381 8 місяців тому

    Looking at those 3 pitchers for Oakland I bet the majority of people just looking at them would have guessed that it was the little guy Tim Hudson who was the best , easily having the best career.

  • @jordans9303
    @jordans9303 11 місяців тому

    It’s weird to think that Hudson was probably the most consistent when he left to the braves. When I was a kid I always thought it was zito, mulder, and Hudson in that order

  • @hanzyj7021
    @hanzyj7021 Рік тому

    I always thought he was awesome. His huge curve was the first I ever saw and I was mesmerized by it. I would go out side and try so hard to throw it

  • @OH_MY_DOGGG
    @OH_MY_DOGGG Рік тому

    He played Mitchell in Airbourne.

  • @jeffrey.a.hanson
    @jeffrey.a.hanson Рік тому

    He’s remembered for being a Cali boy with a quirky lefty curve.

  • @jacksongreen2407
    @jacksongreen2407 Рік тому

    @baseballhistorian Do you watch Company Man?

  • @CrackSkellington
    @CrackSkellington Рік тому

    Babe new baseball historian vid just dropped

  • @truthisthetruth.
    @truthisthetruth. 5 місяців тому

    In the signing with SF they stipulated that Barry had to refrain from surfing.. in contrast when his father negotiated the As deal. It was stipulated that Barry could surf in the off season.. I was Barry's neighbor throughout his As run. He lived right above me in Hollywood during the off season.. point is.. surging is great for your arms..shoulders back muscles Pectorals etc.. this is why his arm didnt have the same Cy Young making magic.. it was lame for the Giants to squash is love of sufing and hos off season conditioning.. paddling a surfboard.... But 126 million reasons to quit surfing.. I am absolutely certain that the team Management's lack of understanding this is why his carrer suffered.. he was the coolest neighbor a person could have.. when he won the Cy Young he drive back to LA the next day. I understandably had to congratulate my neighbor as neighbors always do when their neighbor in an old rent controlled building win the Fkng Cy Young.. the odds of this are so freakishly statistically impossible. It still blows my mind.. talk about a great neighbor.. barry and his sister lived together they played music and made everyone feel the amazing pride that Barry earned .

  • @TimothyC.84
    @TimothyC.84 10 місяців тому

    The Molech tattoo though 😬

  • @MachoMessiah
    @MachoMessiah Рік тому

    haven't even watched the vid yet but #RallyZito

  • @rebeccaellsbury73
    @rebeccaellsbury73 Рік тому

    Why didn’t you put “Zito to Hero” in the thumbnail?

  • @MrJC1120
    @MrJC1120 11 місяців тому

    My eyes are sweating

  • @theb3654
    @theb3654 Рік тому

    I remember when the Giants signed Zito, I was so confused right from the beginning why sign a declining starter.

  • @CG2589
    @CG2589 10 місяців тому

    In reference to 16:16 “Having placed my full identity into my baseball career for most of my life, only to have it stripped away during the 2010 World Series run is what led me to discover my true identity. Not in a game, but in Jesus Christ.” -Barry Zito in Curveball: How I Discovered True Fulfillment After Chasing Fortune and Fame

  • @n8doggy733
    @n8doggy733 Рік тому +1

    21:01 if anyone is wondering who that is sitting next to him, don’t worry he is just some car dealership owner

  • @desmondtoltzman4903
    @desmondtoltzman4903 10 місяців тому

    Bro just told an entire career in like 23 minutes and he ends it with, “ okay, bye”

  • @levisawyer1203
    @levisawyer1203 9 місяців тому +1

    You could’ve named it “Zito to Hero” 😂

  • @aaronfindora3397
    @aaronfindora3397 Рік тому

    He added extra pitches and I think that's what hurt him.