Me still seeing CAS defenders in the subreddit insist that CAS is "earned" and therefore fair and balanced. Some of those same people also saying SPAA is OP because it is "too easy to kill people that "earned" CAS."
One of the most hated thing imo when you finally take down a plane and it happens to be a few BRS lower than what ur playing and you get fuckall reward.
A few days ago, me and my friend accidentaly invented a new tactic. I was the T95 and he was L3. He stood near a wall and I wanted to prank him by squashing him so I backed up to the wall. The L3 got stuck in my tank but he was still alive. So I thought that he is a teammate and he can help with my repairs. We tried this 2 more times and it is so good. It significantly reduces the repair time on the T95 and it is fun to use. You should try this.
@@Led_WTSPAA is way harder to play than CAS. The Gepard is one of the best gun SPAAs but it struggles still. I easily defeated one that blasted me in my Strikemaster Jet, so an aircraft 2.0 BR lower in BR that should be easily shredded by radar SPAA. Nope, he failed and got bombed by me. SPAA is outclassed big time
The amount of cavemen that start screeching about how CAS is fine whenever a post gets made about there needing to be a ground only mode really tells you all you need to know about how many people do this brainrot play style of rushing one kill/cap/assist, so that they can immediately spawn a plane. If there was a ground only option they wouldn't have anyone to speedbomb, as the only ones left playing 'combined battles' would be people just like themselves and the ones that need to kill planes with spaa for some task. Sidenote: God I wish I had the pak Puma.
@@costi4902 Whirbelwind is probably one of the best anti-CAS vehicles in the game tier-for-tier. It's my go-to SPAA when I need to get SPAA kills or shoot down planes for a battle pass challenge because it has the perfect balance of fire rate and damage. Granted, I haven't really used many other SPAA's, but I do know that anti-air vehicles with low fire rate and high damage like the M19A1 aren't as good at hitting planes, and anti-air vehicles with high fire rate and low damage like the M16 aren't as good at actually damaging the planes.
So the "Leaks" are saying that in the next update, we're getting the Benelux (Belgium & the Netherlands) as a sub tree for France. I hope this is true, we can finally have the T13 tank destroyer, the T15 light tank, the SIBMAS (Belgian copy of the Ratel), the M39 Pantserwagen, the Boxer armored car, and so many aircraft too.
@@jackeyboy6538 I mean, I did talk about the Kungstiger (When it was still part of the leak list for the previous update) on a video with the Strv m/41.
M18 Hellcat, yolo rushes, spots like 3 people, spawns in plane, suicide bomb those three people, then again jumps back into that plane and continues to spawn camp the entire game. Thats been my experience. usually like 5-8 of them every game.
Game has ho balance in general. Lets remove cas, then stones and trees, then lets make a map flat as my gf and then, maybe, we can talk about balancing something. Only thing that need to be done about planes its increasing spawn cost by 25%.
@bubsy3861 Dude that's only 600 for fighters and barely over 1000 for like a fully loaded vehicle, that's not hard to regularly get. Using extremist arguments for your point of view doesn't dimish the reasoning of my point
The BS with planes now is why I made some clear overlays for my monitor, with each one being for a specific AA vehicle. It lets me erase air from ~7-8km reliably with a single burst, long before they get into bomb range. 9-10km takes a few shots, but it works. Being the sky chemo is rewarding morally, if not fiscally. Thanks gaijiggles.
Brother, with great power comes great responsibility! You have a moral obligation of helping fellow tankmen eradicate the CAS menace. Please post details of these magical "overlays" somewhere to be easily found!
Can probably do it in like 1 minute - 1:30 on that first map if he just rushed the A or C cap instead of driving for a whole minute around the map because that map spawns you so damn close to the battlefield when you're in an aircraft.
Gaijin should bring back the old spawn point costs from like 6 years ago where if you died without getting any score you were out of the game. You actually had to try and be good to remain in the match
i think we should have grace for players.. surely you've been on the receiving end of a bad start to the match where you die instantly or even one where you die instantly, respawn and end up doing very good in another vehicle besides, this only punishes people like the avenger at the beginning of the game that died with little to no score. they're out of the match, but spookston already got his score, his SP and can spawn in a plane.
@@shronkler1994 you also haven't experienced the old system have you? You weren't able to get into a plane off of 1 kill. It took at least 2 tank kills to be able to repsawn in another tank, to get into a plane it took like 3 kills and a cap because bombers were like 1000sp and fighters were 600sp
@@jaspergerz01 Everyone should. Its just stupid to not take spaa, unless you are so bad, that you cant even get enough points for normal vehicles by killing light tanks.
Fastest CAS kill for me was from using the Jumbo 76 on a really small map and instantly got in a F8F with 1000lbs bombs. Took about 1m18s. Did them real dirty.
Going to be honest, watching your videos has made me better at the game. I know you like making funny videos, but you're the reason I started learning weak points and how to use over pressure. For example, I didn't know that the cheeks of a panther just past the gun mantle, were slapable. Hope you know that your content is helping some of us while we laugh which makes the learning process so much easier.
Spook, there's an option to turn off the "killed by" kill cam in the options. Options -> Main parameters -> Ground vehicle battle settings -> Player ground vehicle destruction replay. This makes it so you don't have to stare at the guy who killed you for like 5 seconds.
CAS needs either higher cost of SP or a limiter of how many planes can be up, I once had a match were most of my teammates where on planes with only like 3 or 4 tanks.
I personally think there should be limitations on the kind of munitions available as well. As in, no bombs larger than 500 lbs (and even that's pushing it).
Attempt 19 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.
Good day, Spookton. Might I beseech thee to consider crafting a video of exquisite charm and erudition, showcasing the magnificence of the Leopard A1A1
The simple solution to fixing CAS in Ground RB is to make all aircraft (except heavy bombers which have a high SP cost) spawn at the airfield. Then, all it would take would be one person playing a fighter to have control of the battlefield airspace. Enemy fighters would then have to dogfight for CAS to have a chance of making it to drop their ordinance. Of course they would need to make the tickets last longer for this dynamic to take place lol.
another is to have CAS ordinance for anything but the proper dedicated bombers like the stukas or heavy bombers be extremely expensive spawn point wise, easily over 100 spawn points, allows fighters to spawn in cheaper than bombers as they do now but also not so much so that a fighter bomber can spawn in with a similar bombload to some of the weaker strategic/tactical bombers while also being cheaper and capable of defending themselves.
combine that with making it so that each ground explosive ordinance has a much higher spawn cost in ground rb so that it's cheaper to get into a fighter to dogfight bombers.
If you do that, the first fighter in the air basically makes his team win the skies automatically. Unless he seriously fucks up, you basically wouldnt be able to get off the airfield and gain the altitude or airspeed to challenge him, it'd be a free turkey shoot until he runs out of ammo.
just want to say i just got an account and i have loved your channel for like 5 years and i just want to say keep up the good work and ill always love what you make.
@@Crosseyedcat167 I thought you recently made a *Gaijin* (WarThunder) account. I now think you meant you've made a UA-cam account? My apologies if that's the case.
I feel like if CAS became balanced it would make tanks more fun due to not being cas'd every 6 seconds but also make CAS kills feel more rewarding due to the bigger challenge
I mean no disrespect to you man, but your voice is so soothing and it puts me to sleep. I put your videos on autoplay every night and I have the best sleep because of it.
Thanks for this man. I log in to do some matches and in 3 matches i get taken out by CAS, spawn spaa, move out of spawn, plane starts firing everything, my turret crew dies, I scramble for safety, bomb, I die. Spawn again in spaa, move an inch, plane starts spraying me, I get a package, i die. This happened twice in a row, the 3rd match was in a urban map so the skies weren't filled with planes.
I have watched your content for about 2 years now and after playing the game for a bit, and listening to you and others talk, I fully agree planes ect are too easy to get into. I decided to try and limit myself because of how easy it is. Basically I wont get into a plane or heli untill I have at least 3+ of a combination of kills, assist, or caps. Ive also found the games are a lot more enjoyable. I typically am part of the second wave of CAS.
You know there are other ways they could balance CAS without limiting the players' access to them. Chiefly by making planes take off from the airfield when spawned, letting players switch vehicles in the spawn zone without wasting the one they're in, being able to scout planes, etc. Honestly I think ground vehicles shouldn't have spawn costs at all, just let players take out their entire lineup at least once.
You can also do it using reserve tanks and a longer bomb timer, and reloading at airfield, but yeah, anything fast and cheap to spawn works, they should just triple the cost of AtG munitions and halve the cost of AtA, plane in tank battle users cant complain about that.
I’m glad you’re highlighting the whole cas bs with this experiment. I’d like to see a Pe8/Lancaster version of this to see how quickly and how easily you can get quadruple plus kills for pressing space bar over a cap after you cap rush in a BT.
19th time challenging Spookston to bring the Char 25t into an 8.3 lineup, and then incrementally increase the BR to find when the tank becomes unironically unplayable.
I'm a CAS player, and get your frustration, but I like spawning in planes for Ground RB. I think that there should be a separate mode, where you can from the get go jump into planes or ground vehicles, and play on a huge Sim style map , and have dynamic objectives to create team work and combined arms attacks.
Or even simpler, like a ground only gamemode. Buuut, you really don't want that because you're worried that pretty much all tank players will migrate to that and you;d be out of food. You know CAS is abusive, you like abusing it and you know the people's matches you end really don't like it because you're interrupting fun... but you don't want it to end. Get your father back by stopping the dopamine farm, you don't need this for fulfillment or enjoyment.
@@doktork3406 lol ok... I love zooming over the battefield providing support for teammates in distress, scouting the map and clearing objectives from hostiles. Nothing better than having a teammate mark a gridpoint asking for support and eliminating the threat. I don't find it overly abusive especially now with really powerful SPAA vehicles and bomb and rocket nerfs Ground pounding in Air RB doesn't offer this feel, as the battles are rarely dictated by ground forces anymore, and it's hard to actually get a good game in.
@@doktork3406have you ever thought that maybe people just like flying planes? Theres hundreds of them in the game, and yet more than half of them are completely pointless to fly in the stale fighter TDM mode that is air RB. I fly planes, and fly them almost exclusively in GRB because I have fun finding, identifying, and dogfighting with enemy planes in a way that air RB doesnt provide. I literally couldnt give less of a fuck if you think im just playing to "abuse" it because im not. Im flying planes because I like flying planes, end of. I dont owe you or anyone else who refuses to learn to fly a plane well enough to come shoot me down anything. And yet im still perfectly capable of winning games in a tank as well. Dumbasses claim tanks take skill and planes dont while Ive been sitting in a 3.7 chaffee the last few days top 3 on the team in most of my games with a 5.7 lineup farming tiger 2s and shit because all these morons are so oblivious.
I think a way of fixing the CAS problem would be to add objectives outside the main play area, where you could complete objectives that help the team, give you points, and hurt the enemy, like destroying arty positions that would deny the enemy teams arty for awhile
Imo, the best way to balance this is to increase SP costs for ordinance (bombs, rockets, AP belts, etc), so players can still spawn anti-CAS fighters with no air-to-ground weapons
We need another May Revolution like last year but this time about how insanely easy it is to spawn in CAS. I also wish there was just more historical accuracy in mid to high tier matches. I don’t want to see America and the USSR on the same team beyond the mid tier. I also want East and West Germany and Italy and Hungary on separate teams.
Had a match where the game was almost entirely enemy cas. Out of 4 death, 3 were to cas, the enemy just spammed more cas than us and won due to that. There were like 7 planes up, bombing, shooting everything
You should try a "battlefield is lava" challenge, basically you spawn in a helicopter with rockets and guns then switch to planes after getting some kills. You never get in a tank.
Again as a CAS main, the easiest way to fix it would be point costs. Dedicated fighters should be no less than 750, with payload goes to 850. Attackers and Bombers fully loaded are just 1000, no more 1 assist getting you a fully loaded P47.............
Funny you said people legit play like this because I didn’t believe it until yesterday-the same day you posted this-when I saw a guy get a bt-5, capture c, j out, get an il-2, then strafe the tank in front of me. Maybe he got inspiration from this video, who knows.
I cannot emphasize this enough; do not try to replicate this. I was making a point about CAS SP costs.
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You are too late, people are gonna do it anyway... they already are for the most part.
Attempt #57: Avenge from CAS and play the Shturm-S as a SAM
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Spookston, hate to break it to you but people already do this on a regular basis
( yeah you already know that better than me )
Suicide CAS on a ZIS-30 after dropping a bomb instead of the MG is probably the most CAS player thing to do
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It's hilarious, you can spawn in a light tank, 1 scout assist, 1 actual assist, dies, spawn in a a2d with 8000lb bombload
This load out is actually wrong , this would never lift off the ground.
The real big brain move is spewing in an spaa and rushing a point since they only cost 70 points
@@5co756 🤓
yes I play usa 7.0 like this all the time.
@@5co756you can take two 2000lb bombs and eight 500lb bombs which in total is 8000 pounds of ordinance
He's become the very thing he swore to destroy!
"You die a tank main or live long enought to see yourself become a CAS main."
Ya beat me to it. 😂
Gaijin's takeaway from this video is that CAS needs to spawn closer to the battle area
or use milage points to get CAS planes, like the airlines do 😀
And to make it possible to spawn a plane as your first spawn
bro i was that zis-30, you’ve betrayed me
After 50 days of asking for the zis-30 thats what i get 😔
Punishment for bushes lmao
@@LimeInDisguisehe already did the zis 30
@@AhAh-yh6es yeah that was me, im the one who requested it before
@@LimeInDisguisedo you have tips? I'm 62 days in and he won't play su-122.
Me still seeing CAS defenders in the subreddit insist that CAS is "earned" and therefore fair and balanced. Some of those same people also saying SPAA is OP because it is "too easy to kill people that "earned" CAS."
that sounds like people without skill having a problem with people that stop them from beeing assholes xD
best part is SPAA players arent rewarded for killing planes
CAS defenders have less IQ points than a decrepit snapping turtle…
@@LokiV_WTair kills are rewarded more than ground kills
@@BaATep nope they're not, they earn less sl and rp
i played a match, saw a m18 at 8.7, he rushed one singular cap, spawned a jet.
Respect the hustle 🤷
That’s how we like to play the game
Yeah it was a real struggle to spawn in a fighter back then too
Absolute Chad.
@@donk5058Must be pretty uneventful then, all you have to do is look for a target and call it a day…
One of the most hated thing imo when you finally take down a plane and it happens to be a few BRS lower than what ur playing and you get fuckall reward.
‘ You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain ‘
Batman
@@HilochieTudorNot the Spookton we need, but the Spookton we deserve.
A few days ago, me and my friend accidentaly invented a new tactic. I was the T95 and he was L3. He stood near a wall and I wanted to prank him by squashing him so I backed up to the wall. The L3 got stuck in my tank but he was still alive. So I thought that he is a teammate and he can help with my repairs. We tried this 2 more times and it is so good. It significantly reduces the repair time on the T95 and it is fun to use. You should try this.
VoreThunder moment
@@bickboose9364 "om nom nom"
my night routine:
-going to kitchen
-making a hot chocolate
-drinking it while watching spookston
-finishing the hot chocolate
-going to bed
One time at top tier I had been killed by cas twice within the first 5 minutes, and then I third time not long after. It's just so exhausting
spaa: i simply dont exist
@@Led_WT Spaa getting killed by the 32 airplanes in the air: yep I don't exist anymore
@@breezyxkillerx when i play with it, no aircraft stood a chance lmao
@@Led_WTSPAA is way harder to play than CAS.
The Gepard is one of the best gun SPAAs but it struggles still.
I easily defeated one that blasted me in my Strikemaster Jet, so an aircraft 2.0 BR lower in BR that should be easily shredded by radar SPAA. Nope, he failed and got bombed by me.
SPAA is outclassed big time
usually J out after when i see a asshole with a plane coming at me and then go to the next match
The amount of cavemen that start screeching about how CAS is fine whenever a post gets made about there needing to be a ground only mode really tells you all you need to know about how many people do this brainrot play style of rushing one kill/cap/assist, so that they can immediately spawn a plane.
If there was a ground only option they wouldn't have anyone to speedbomb, as the only ones left playing 'combined battles' would be people just like themselves and the ones that need to kill planes with spaa for some task.
Sidenote: God I wish I had the pak Puma.
spookston you should play the pantsir to satisfy your hatred of cas
For sure
Or for lower tiers you can try the zerstorer 45, ostwind 1 and 2 and wirbelwind anti cas lineup (or even anti tank role with this lineup)
@@costi4902 Whirbelwind is probably one of the best anti-CAS vehicles in the game tier-for-tier. It's my go-to SPAA when I need to get SPAA kills or shoot down planes for a battle pass challenge because it has the perfect balance of fire rate and damage. Granted, I haven't really used many other SPAA's, but I do know that anti-air vehicles with low fire rate and high damage like the M19A1 aren't as good at hitting planes, and anti-air vehicles with high fire rate and low damage like the M16 aren't as good at actually damaging the planes.
TY-90
The worst cas players are the ones that bring 1 tank and a full line-up of planes
Day 11 of asking Spookston to play the T-10M
T10-A!!!!!
That would be nice
Oh no a heavy tank this is gonna be fun too watch
@@TheGrace020T10A is just as miserable as IS3 and IS6
@@TheGrace020T-10M is the tech tree version of the T-10A. Nearly the same vehicle.
The fact that you constantly kamikazeed into the enemy tanks was great, that's the best way to play CAS
So the "Leaks" are saying that in the next update, we're getting the Benelux (Belgium & the Netherlands) as a sub tree for France. I hope this is true, we can finally have the T13 tank destroyer, the T15 light tank, the SIBMAS (Belgian copy of the Ratel), the M39 Pantserwagen, the Boxer armored car, and so many aircraft too.
the ACEC Cobra series of vehicles are pretty neet
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Also navy! They can get K2 before it was captured by germans, and that is already enough, its my favorite silly boat.
I love this comment on this video specifically, like you saw this and said “…. Sooo anyway we’re getting some cool new vehicles”
@@jackeyboy6538 I mean, I did talk about the Kungstiger (When it was still part of the leak list for the previous update) on a video with the Strv m/41.
France gets something? No way, they likely to copypaste premium Leclerc for chinese P2W players and then forget about whole tree for a year or so
M18 Hellcat, yolo rushes, spots like 3 people, spawns in plane, suicide bomb those three people, then again jumps back into that plane and continues to spawn camp the entire game. Thats been my experience. usually like 5-8 of them every game.
CAS mains spamming how CAS isn't overpowered and to just play SPAA
Game has ho balance in general. Lets remove cas, then stones and trees, then lets make a map flat as my gf and then, maybe, we can talk about balancing something.
Only thing that need to be done about planes its increasing spawn cost by 25%.
@@bubsy3861 Bro's making a slippery-slope argument about fucking nerfing cas lmao
@@bubsy3861 or maybe dont let cas spawn until like 8 minutes have passed??? 😭😭😭😭 25% is so small of an increase
@@dhmhtrhs. Majority of games don't last 8 minutes goofy ass lmao
@bubsy3861 Dude that's only 600 for fighters and barely over 1000 for like a fully loaded vehicle, that's not hard to regularly get. Using extremist arguments for your point of view doesn't dimish the reasoning of my point
The BS with planes now is why I made some clear overlays for my monitor, with each one being for a specific AA vehicle. It lets me erase air from ~7-8km reliably with a single burst, long before they get into bomb range. 9-10km takes a few shots, but it works. Being the sky chemo is rewarding morally, if not fiscally. Thanks gaijiggles.
Brother, with great power comes great responsibility! You have a moral obligation of helping fellow tankmen eradicate the CAS menace.
Please post details of these magical "overlays" somewhere to be easily found!
Tell us more
who cares
@@ConfusedRiflemanMe
@@ConfusedRifleman i do
3:10 You OBLITERATED him! That Seismic Charge sound is fitting for the level of damage you did to that poor man.
player base: its too easy to spawn in a plane
gaijin: best i can do is a scout and a kill assist.
We can fucking speedrun warthunder now is crazy
Ty for the tutorial! Gonna go do this now.
I look forward to seeing the speedrun community try to optimize this. Could be more competitive than SMB1 any %.
In terms of research points/hour this is probably the most effect strategy.
Can probably do it in like 1 minute - 1:30 on that first map if he just rushed the A or C cap instead of driving for a whole minute around the map because that map spawns you so damn close to the battlefield when you're in an aircraft.
Gaijin should bring back the old spawn point costs from like 6 years ago where if you died without getting any score you were out of the game. You actually had to try and be good to remain in the match
Sure, a guy spawns in and does this, nukes a T95 that barely left their spawn, and completely eliminates them from the match.
Fun.
@@adam19hun you do realize what I said right? How new are you?
i think we should have grace for players.. surely you've been on the receiving end of a bad start to the match where you die instantly
or even one where you die instantly, respawn and end up doing very good in another vehicle
besides, this only punishes people like the avenger at the beginning of the game that died with little to no score. they're out of the match, but spookston already got his score, his SP and can spawn in a plane.
@@shronkler1994 you also haven't experienced the old system have you? You weren't able to get into a plane off of 1 kill. It took at least 2 tank kills to be able to repsawn in another tank, to get into a plane it took like 3 kills and a cap because bombers were like 1000sp and fighters were 600sp
@@yordobelps Why not keep those costs for planes but the new ones for ground?
My hatred of Planes made me go to the SPAA SIDE
Getting repeatedly bullied by american cas broke me, now I try to have a dedicated SPAA slot in all of my lineups.
@@jaspergerz01 you didn't before?
@@jaspergerz01 Everyone should. Its just stupid to not take spaa, unless you are so bad, that you cant even get enough points for normal vehicles by killing light tanks.
not like any CAS used by the worst CAS enjoyer can outrange any SPAA, but okay
my hatred of SPAA made me go to the PLANE SIDE
I wanna see a Malzi Spookston collab on the point of how much both of them get absolutely CAS'ed
Fastest CAS kill for me was from using the Jumbo 76 on a really small map and instantly got in a F8F with 1000lbs bombs. Took about 1m18s. Did them real dirty.
Kinda doubt it but ok
@@reinni2968 Probably that one map with lots of hills and almost direct view from one spawn to another.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 likely ardennes. That shit has me getting shot on a new match before the immunity drops.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Nah probably Advance To the Rhine, i always die because i dont expect seeing enemies after driving for 10 seconds
Going to be honest, watching your videos has made me better at the game. I know you like making funny videos, but you're the reason I started learning weak points and how to use over pressure.
For example, I didn't know that the cheeks of a panther just past the gun mantle, were slapable.
Hope you know that your content is helping some of us while we laugh which makes the learning process so much easier.
The Tables have finally turned, Spookston became the very thing he tried to destroy.
Spook, there's an option to turn off the "killed by" kill cam in the options.
Options -> Main parameters -> Ground vehicle battle settings -> Player ground vehicle destruction replay.
This makes it so you don't have to stare at the guy who killed you for like 5 seconds.
CAS needs either higher cost of SP or a limiter of how many planes can be up, I once had a match were most of my teammates where on planes with only like 3 or 4 tanks.
I personally think there should be limitations on the kind of munitions available as well. As in, no bombs larger than 500 lbs (and even that's pushing it).
Air superiority means its easier for ground units to get where they want with air support, intercepting enemy ground and air.
Once I faced like 8 enemy plane in the air at same time while my team had 3 or 4, like at this point why even call it groud
@@theasiangod5860agreed but air should be limited, especially at higher tiers with guided munitions
@combinetheelite honestly is there even a need for Cas in top tier? I mean the spaa at top tier already out plays cad
“Do not try to replicate this.”
Oh buddy..
_who’s gonna stop me?_
Attempt 19 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.
4:47 the Object 211, world record for the most armored leafblower
And it sucks too
I’ve been able to spawn the French Corsair with 114 SNEBs and three 1000lb bombs with as little as two assists iirc
Spook playing CAS!?
*" It was said that you would destroy the CAS, not join them! "*
It would be sick if you played the M103 but brought an AA or a plane to counter Cas
I have never laughed or smiled so much in a UA-cam video in my life. This was brilliant and needed😂😂
Good day, Spookton. Might I beseech thee to consider crafting a video of exquisite charm and erudition, showcasing the magnificence of the Leopard A1A1
The simple solution to fixing CAS in Ground RB is to make all aircraft (except heavy bombers which have a high SP cost) spawn at the airfield.
Then, all it would take would be one person playing a fighter to have control of the battlefield airspace. Enemy fighters would then have to dogfight for CAS to have a chance of making it to drop their ordinance. Of course they would need to make the tickets last longer for this dynamic to take place lol.
also move the airfield to like 15k km away and give every plane 30sec max of fuel
I hate to say but you’ve just described jets and it doesn’t fix it much
another is to have CAS ordinance for anything but the proper dedicated bombers like the stukas or heavy bombers be extremely expensive spawn point wise, easily over 100 spawn points, allows fighters to spawn in cheaper than bombers as they do now but also not so much so that a fighter bomber can spawn in with a similar bombload to some of the weaker strategic/tactical bombers while also being cheaper and capable of defending themselves.
combine that with making it so that each ground explosive ordinance has a much higher spawn cost in ground rb so that it's cheaper to get into a fighter to dogfight bombers.
If you do that, the first fighter in the air basically makes his team win the skies automatically.
Unless he seriously fucks up, you basically wouldnt be able to get off the airfield and gain the altitude or airspeed to challenge him, it'd be a free turkey shoot until he runs out of ammo.
just want to say i just got an account and i have loved your channel for like 5 years and i just want to say keep up the good work and ill always love what you make.
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@@bickboose9364 so why did you reply to me?
@@Crosseyedcat167 I thought you recently made a *Gaijin* (WarThunder) account. I now think you meant you've made a UA-cam account? My apologies if that's the case.
When I think of going back to War Thunder, Spookston is always there to stop me.
4:12
The reason CAS at mid BRs is OP, colorized
Thank you for using the Romanian plane camo, feels good to see your country anywhere when you are from a forgotten place xD
I feel like if CAS became balanced it would make tanks more fun due to not being cas'd every 6 seconds but also make CAS kills feel more rewarding due to the bigger challenge
Just play sim, it’s everything cas should be
This is why we should get Spookston the play Naval. You don’t have to worry about CAS, the ship’s aa will deal with it for you
Love the unloved M47 Patton day 143!
The M47 is pretty fun with its turret speed.
I mean no disrespect to you man, but your voice is so soothing and it puts me to sleep. I put your videos on autoplay every night and I have the best sleep because of it.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
Thanks for this man. I log in to do some matches and in 3 matches i get taken out by CAS, spawn spaa, move out of spawn, plane starts firing everything, my turret crew dies, I scramble for safety, bomb, I die. Spawn again in spaa, move an inch, plane starts spraying me, I get a package, i die.
This happened twice in a row, the 3rd match was in a urban map so the skies weren't filled with planes.
Spookston, I’m afraid your casner is terminal, I’m gonna have to prescribe you permanent useless sabot
I have watched your content for about 2 years now and after playing the game for a bit, and listening to you and others talk, I fully agree planes ect are too easy to get into. I decided to try and limit myself because of how easy it is. Basically I wont get into a plane or heli untill I have at least 3+ of a combination of kills, assist, or caps. Ive also found the games are a lot more enjoyable. I typically am part of the second wave of CAS.
Spookston you should play the f-82 it’s one of the best anti CAS
Nice vid and play the T-10M next someone has been asking for 11 days. Keep the vids up! and i would love to see a noob to pro vid!
This humble fastest clicker from the north asks spookston to try war thunder mobile
Never have I been more glad for the Type 99's existence, it's my go to vehicle for 7.3 since it melts everything.
You know there are other ways they could balance CAS without limiting the players' access to them. Chiefly by making planes take off from the airfield when spawned, letting players switch vehicles in the spawn zone without wasting the one they're in, being able to scout planes, etc. Honestly I think ground vehicles shouldn't have spawn costs at all, just let players take out their entire lineup at least once.
Isnt arcade mode plays like that?
Being able to scout planes would be huge
Trust me you don't want top tier russia to bring out the WHOLE line up
@@riccardomariani9648 You easily can to tier has lower spawn cost Ive died 10 times and sitll been fighting
@@ReginAld15429arcade has a limit of 3 spawns unless that changed
Spookston found the new grind meta strategy
No. 1 reason I quit this game.
You can also do it using reserve tanks and a longer bomb timer, and reloading at airfield, but yeah, anything fast and cheap to spawn works, they should just triple the cost of AtG munitions and halve the cost of AtA, plane in tank battle users cant complain about that.
Standard day of a US main
I’m glad you’re highlighting the whole cas bs with this experiment.
I’d like to see a Pe8/Lancaster version of this to see how quickly and how easily you can get quadruple plus kills for pressing space bar over a cap after you cap rush in a BT.
Dawg I got a scout and could get a plane
19th time challenging Spookston to bring the Char 25t into an 8.3 lineup, and then incrementally increase the BR to find when the tank becomes unironically unplayable.
I'm a CAS player, and get your frustration, but I like spawning in planes for Ground RB.
I think that there should be a separate mode, where you can from the get go jump into planes or ground vehicles, and play on a huge Sim style map , and have dynamic objectives to create team work and combined arms attacks.
Or even simpler, like a ground only gamemode. Buuut, you really don't want that because you're worried that pretty much all tank players will migrate to that and you;d be out of food.
You know CAS is abusive, you like abusing it and you know the people's matches you end really don't like it because you're interrupting fun... but you don't want it to end.
Get your father back by stopping the dopamine farm, you don't need this for fulfillment or enjoyment.
@@doktork3406 lol ok... I love zooming over the battefield providing support for teammates in distress, scouting the map and clearing objectives from hostiles. Nothing better than having a teammate mark a gridpoint asking for support and eliminating the threat. I don't find it overly abusive especially now with really powerful SPAA vehicles and bomb and rocket nerfs
Ground pounding in Air RB doesn't offer this feel, as the battles are rarely dictated by ground forces anymore, and it's hard to actually get a good game in.
@@doktork3406have you ever thought that maybe people just like flying planes?
Theres hundreds of them in the game, and yet more than half of them are completely pointless to fly in the stale fighter TDM mode that is air RB.
I fly planes, and fly them almost exclusively in GRB because I have fun finding, identifying, and dogfighting with enemy planes in a way that air RB doesnt provide.
I literally couldnt give less of a fuck if you think im just playing to "abuse" it because im not. Im flying planes because I like flying planes, end of.
I dont owe you or anyone else who refuses to learn to fly a plane well enough to come shoot me down anything. And yet im still perfectly capable of winning games in a tank as well. Dumbasses claim tanks take skill and planes dont while Ive been sitting in a 3.7 chaffee the last few days top 3 on the team in most of my games with a 5.7 lineup farming tiger 2s and shit because all these morons are so oblivious.
The guy you killed has a very fitting name at 11:22 in the video. lol
This is so hilariously scummy
It hurts my soul 😢
1:15
-takes out Hungarian plane
-puts Romanian camo on it
*Galaxy mind*
I can see the romanian air forces decal on the BF 109 G-2, thank you for using it! Respect!
I think a way of fixing the CAS problem would be to add objectives outside the main play area, where you could complete objectives that help the team, give you points, and hurt the enemy, like destroying arty positions that would deny the enemy teams arty for awhile
Spook, I love how much you use the halo sound effects. I used to play the hell out of 3, ODST and Reach.
Spookton, you've become the thing you've sworn to destroy.
"you're supposed to destroy them, not to join them!"
Imo, the best way to balance this is to increase SP costs for ordinance (bombs, rockets, AP belts, etc), so players can still spawn anti-CAS fighters with no air-to-ground weapons
Just locking CAS to first person view would fix 50% of the issues with it.
You were the chosen one! You've become the very thing you swore to destroy!
spookston being petty form getting bombed all the time lmao great video
We need another May Revolution like last year but this time about how insanely easy it is to spawn in CAS.
I also wish there was just more historical accuracy in mid to high tier matches. I don’t want to see America and the USSR on the same team beyond the mid tier. I also want East and West Germany and Italy and Hungary on separate teams.
Had a match where the game was almost entirely enemy cas. Out of 4 death, 3 were to cas, the enemy just spammed more cas than us and won due to that. There were like 7 planes up, bombing, shooting everything
"Forgot stopwatch so no time"
My brother in christ you have the footage to time it
idk why but your laught is so therapeutic
Best tutorial video in a while!
You should try a "battlefield is lava" challenge, basically you spawn in a helicopter with rockets and guns then switch to planes after getting some kills. You never get in a tank.
Really enjoyed this.
Pro-tip: You should have used the russian BI with 45s of fuel for max. acceleration. But kill not guaranted, as no bombs
another spookston vid to make my day
Lav ad capping the point and getting a harrier moment
Again as a CAS main, the easiest way to fix it would be point costs.
Dedicated fighters should be no less than 750, with payload goes to 850.
Attackers and Bombers fully loaded are just 1000, no more 1 assist getting you a fully loaded P47.............
Aiming the bofors just feels impossible in most circumstances. The M42 suffers.
the fact that this behavior isnt even out of place says a lot
One thing that would really help would be to just prevent air vehicles from spawning for the first like 3 minutes, at least, of a match.
Funny you said people legit play like this because I didn’t believe it until yesterday-the same day you posted this-when I saw a guy get a bt-5, capture c, j out, get an il-2, then strafe the tank in front of me. Maybe he got inspiration from this video, who knows.
Bro I channeled my spookston yesterday. I had been getting stomped in uptiers yesterday but as soon as I started doing well BOOM cas-ed constantly
You can get into a plane for one kill assist due to spotting. It is insane
Karelia spawns CAS really close to the map center like non other maps, so thats the reason why its hard to replicate the first game.
spookston accidentally making a new meta after telling people what not to do
This strategy becomes damn near overpowered if you use the A4E