If we're being serious here, it's because the guns and shells developed post war hits so much harder that at the time, there were almost no way to desgin a tank that can effectively block the shots while having reasonable weight and cost. So the designers and engineers just put all their effort to "not get hit" instead of the WW2 German zoo bullshit that keeps getting bigger and heavier
@@lyllechoi5621I mean, it was definitely *possible* to design a tank with effective armor at the time, the Americans, Soviets, and British all had some success with it, but it was difficult and costly enough that the Germans and French decided it wasn't worth it.
@@zoro115-s6b there was also that both armies were defeated by swarms of (relative) light armoured, mobile tanks while fielding well armoured, comparatively slow tanks so there was a think of "lets not do that again"
Fun Fact: The Ru 251 is built upon the hull of the Kanonenjagdpanzer, making it to my knowledge the only actual tank built on a Tank Destroyer chassis, and not the other way around.
There is actually one (and I think it's only just one) other example of this - the Lorraine 40t is built on the chassis / hull of the CA Lorraine, rather than the other way round, since the Lorraine company wanted to submit a prototype to the French armed forces when they started looking at a tank lighter than the AMX-50 was panning out to be, and they had already built the CA Lorraine as an assault gun / self-propelled gun and so just yoinked the finished chassis for the project No other cases I can immediately think of where this happened beyond that though, so you're right about the rarity
This tank was designed as a replacement for the light tank role, as Germany used the M41 before. However, Germany developed the Leopard 1 at the same time and realized that the Ru-251 is redundant since the Leopard 1 could pack way more protection and firepower while being nearly as capable when it comes to mobility. Fun fact: Suprisingly the Ru-251 was built on the chassis of the KanJpz 4-5, unlike in WW2 where it was usually the other way around.
I love it that spookston releases his videos right on my lunch break that way I can be reminded that I will be going home after the day to give more of my soul to the snail
Attempt 34 at getting Spookston to play the 90/53 M41M - an Italian glass cannon that penetrates anything at its BR....but it only has 8 bullets! No, that was not a spelling error, I *really* mean 8.
@@Smokey348 The late variant do be like that, significantly better angling on the armour plates and the turret is smaller. I do wonder where Gaijin got the idea for the late variant of the tank. I wish the reverse speed was a tad bit greater than the 8 km/h or so it is currently. They're not as good as some other tanks tier-for-tier, but they're not terrible.
Attempt number 32 at getting Spookston to play out any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
Do you know what vechicle would be good to test HEAT and HESH rounds at the same time? The Lancia 3Ro 100/17. I assure, that would be very fun video. Fun for viewers, that is.
Remember to NEVER even THINK the words "bomb", "CAS" or the phrase, "things seem to be going well" until AFTER the match least you summon the gods of nope.
Now if only we could get either the Spähpanzer Luchs or the Spähpanzer SP I.C. into the game as more fun for the light tanks of the 1950s and 1960s Bundeswehr toy box.
5:23 britain names its tank models something starting with c as a holdover from back when they had cruiser tanks and infantry tanks, the centurion was technically a cruiser before they decided to use it as a ‘universal tank’ and eventually a main battle tank. from then on they just stuck with it
it kinda makes me appreciate GHPC even more seeing how HEAT acts in that game compared to WT. In here it's just 3-4 spall fragments and the big projectile, meanwhile in ghpc the tanks (if you can penetrate them) get absolutely COVERED in shrapnel.
I've been playing War Thunder since about a month after the public beta was release (you can imagine the play time lol) and I've never bought a premium vehicle. All I ever bought was premium time except when the Ru 251 released. I absolutely adore this tank. The mobility is incredible, it's super flat and can hide in many places other tanks can't and I have yet to encounter a tank that I struggle to kill. To me, the Ru 251 is perfection.
I don't know why people think HESH should overpressure like HE. That is not what the round is intended to do. The "HE" in HESH is there mainly to create high kinetic energy at impact inside the round. That is then used to "squash the head", or better to deal an enormous punch to the target's armor, literally breaking off huge metal chunks inside the tank that fly and bounce in the interior at ridiculous speed. That's why it works better on flat heavy armor plates. So, in contrary to HE, the HESH shockwave is mostly used for spalling, not directly for ripping a crew apart. Also, it is used more for demolition purposes, concrete etc, than killing tanks. In my younger days I was trained as a tank commander in a Leopard I. I've seen some examples of the spalling caused by HESH inside a tank. It's terrifying.
but if HESH doesn't overpressure, doesn't that mean that HEAT shouldn't overpressure either? since it technically isn't meant to do that either... HESH, to the best of my knowledge, just uses a specific type of deformable explosive with a base fuze, but it's still essentially just a HE shell. Same way a shaped charge is essentially just HE.
That's how it functions against enclosed tanks with armor, a very light vehicle isn't going to care if it's HESH or HE or HE-FRAG, it's going to crumple. HESH's energy is not nearly as directional as HEAT.
I used to have a very different perception of the Ru 251. One of my friends got it back when the IS-6 premium came out. We could never deal with them head on even with the HEATFS because the IS-6 at the time had one of its turret armor plates broken and given higher effective thickness vs its actual RHA thickness so total effective turret armor was like 300mm+ so 90mm HEAT couldn't pen.
RU 251 used to be the most hated tank back in the day. Everyone and their dog got one - it was (used to be; dunno about now) fast, it hit hard, it had a good gun/ammo. Twas a hellcat of... whatever BR it was at. 7? 7.3? Or something? Yeah.
Had a moment with a fox just like that. 90 mil kanonen jagdpanzer heat passed right through the flat side of the fox. No spall nor did it even slow down.
You should play the pbil m/40. Its a Swedish premium tank that has a 20mm autocannon with good pen at 2.0. The tank is very similar to the low tier sdkfz with the added bonus of a much bigger mag. It also 6 crew for some reason making it extremely survivable unlike the kfz.
Since HEAT has been buffed, I challenge you to play any of the German tanks armed with the 88KwK or 88PaK and use only the Hl Gr 39 HEAT Shell. Personally I recommend the Jagdpanther, but if you really want to suffer you can play the Nashorn.
Honestly, I'm an enormous player of RU251 since it came out, and even since, I always find that its heat-fs was quite powerful compared to other tanks (especially Leopard's one), for me it was always a pleasure to play this tank, you can like, anihilate everything that moves in your sight range
They Buffed the F4D skyrays flight performance and now its an insane fighter at 9.0 with 4 aim9bs or 98 mighty mouse rockets , it also rocks 4x20mms with anti aircraft rounds ,
7:09 you know you saying about him pretty kindly for what he did. i like it. or just after few years of playing war thunder you just unable to being angry
I look forward to seeing you play the PLZ130! I usually just shorten it to that, as it makes it easier to type and say, as well as being a quick distinguishing name from the regular PLZ83.
I will play the T-10 soon, and I'll be making a poll later today (if I remember to do so)
Please play war thunder on console it would be funny
@@Womenfearmetroutlovemeand use controller
Do not worry Spookston i will remind you to play the T-10M everyday at anytime
Please Play the STUG III since you hate it so much
HESH "does" do overpressure but its very bad, barely works on even light tanks
Its funny how german engineers designed polar opposites of their ww2 tanks during the cold war, they were really like "well that didnt work too well"
If we're being serious here, it's because the guns and shells developed post war hits so much harder that at the time, there were almost no way to desgin a tank that can effectively block the shots while having reasonable weight and cost. So the designers and engineers just put all their effort to "not get hit" instead of the WW2 German zoo bullshit that keeps getting bigger and heavier
@@lyllechoi5621Ya the German engineers told the tankers it's a skill issue if you get hit, just buff your agility
@@lyllechoi5621I mean, it was definitely *possible* to design a tank with effective armor at the time, the Americans, Soviets, and British all had some success with it, but it was difficult and costly enough that the Germans and French decided it wasn't worth it.
Who would think making tanks complex was smart ?
They finally stopped being perfectionist
@@zoro115-s6b there was also that both armies were defeated by swarms of (relative) light armoured, mobile tanks while fielding well armoured, comparatively slow tanks
so there was a think of "lets not do that again"
Fun Fact: The Ru 251 is built upon the hull of the Kanonenjagdpanzer, making it to my knowledge the only actual tank built on a Tank Destroyer chassis, and not the other way around.
Thanks for the fact!
that's actually funny
Kanonenjagdpanzer got de-tuteled.
There is actually one (and I think it's only just one) other example of this - the Lorraine 40t is built on the chassis / hull of the CA Lorraine, rather than the other way round, since the Lorraine company wanted to submit a prototype to the French armed forces when they started looking at a tank lighter than the AMX-50 was panning out to be, and they had already built the CA Lorraine as an assault gun / self-propelled gun and so just yoinked the finished chassis for the project
No other cases I can immediately think of where this happened beyond that though, so you're right about the rarity
@@Britisher11 Thanks for the addendum! Honestly pretty neat the French and Germans had the same idea.
7:03 Typical Pe-8 evaporates nothing except teammates.
Gaijin:
Hippity hoppity your sl is now my property
@@silviarossi510 always have been
Dr.K????@@Catoonz
yesterday a pe 8 got 7 teammates and 1 enemy
And then somehow the Brit’s with a 12k somehow never kill teammates
1:55 My mans literally remade the opponents tank just for a 1 second skit, I appreciate the dedication.
T34: I can't wait for a nice game today!
Spookston: 0:52
6:36 That super pershing's turret making evel knievel proud clearing the river like that.
6:39 this whimsical fellow brought ammo for the whole us army 😭
Bro is basically a driving bomb
Dude’s turret cleared the creek
bro IS the logistics
12:53
>Jet of superheated metal pierces directly into crew's chest
>Pretends it didn't happen
6:37 the fact that his turret crossed the river XD
UwU
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Spookston, I've watched so many of your videos that you're genuinely starting to influence my speech pattern.
then stop
@@dogamongstmenwomp womp
@@dogamongstmen
*Imagine getting womp womp-ed twice.*
*Wouldn't be me personally.*
@@dogamongstmenwomp womp
Womp womp
Other people: comment on 50+ videos for spooks to play a tank.
Me: comments once and Spookston plays it
The chosen one
Oh f you mate, he will never play tank that I suggest
@@bennosvab6294what is ur tank?
@@Titan117-gq9jo Breda 501
@@bennosvab6294 i support breda
Day 12 of asking Spookston to play the T-10M
Brother you have achieved your goal...
U got what u asked for
Well done 😊😊😊
Brotha you can stop now
@@ImZeoXy he liked that comment like 5 times
This tank was designed as a replacement for the light tank role, as Germany used the M41 before. However, Germany developed the Leopard 1 at the same time and realized that the Ru-251 is redundant since the Leopard 1 could pack way more protection and firepower while being nearly as capable when it comes to mobility.
Fun fact: Suprisingly the Ru-251 was built on the chassis of the KanJpz 4-5, unlike in WW2 where it was usually the other way around.
I love it that spookston releases his videos right on my lunch break that way I can be reminded that I will be going home after the day to give more of my soul to the snail
Really appreciate the extra effort with the editing recently! It's definitely gotten some hearty laughs out of me and gets me smiling ear to ear.
Attempt 34 at getting Spookston to play the 90/53 M41M - an Italian glass cannon that penetrates anything at its BR....but it only has 8 bullets!
No, that was not a spelling error, I *really* mean 8.
Is it that italian thing that has the turret in the back of the tank, kinda like the object 120? And that has the back of the turret completly open?
@@alexmaximus9134Unfortunately, yes
3:16 “Prius is an electric vehicle” - Spookston 2024
It's a hybrid, he's half right.
@@StarkRaven59 yes but the term “electric vehicle” in basically all context means fully electric cars.
You should play the Chi-To's, they recently got a pretty significant mobility buff
Chi-To and the late variant are both honestly some of my favourite Japanese tanks
...Not that there's too many to choose from
@@tomppeli. They are one of the best at their br. The holy trio Chi-Nu II and Chi-To (both)
@@tomppeli. the late is far superior than the normal one
@@Smokey348 The late variant do be like that, significantly better angling on the armour plates and the turret is smaller.
I do wonder where Gaijin got the idea for the late variant of the tank.
I wish the reverse speed was a tad bit greater than the 8 km/h or so it is currently. They're not as good as some other tanks tier-for-tier, but they're not terrible.
@@tomppeli. Most of the Japanese tech tree can be equated to "not great, not terrible" with a bit of "haha big gun go boom" thrown in between.
YES! Thank you Spookston I've been wanting you to make a video on this tank for so long. Love the videos
I love your content Spookston! Best wishes!
YOOOOO SPOOKSTON MY DUDE! Been waiting to see you play this thing. So glad the day has finally come. Thank you and keep on with it 🤘🏻
Attempt number 32 at getting Spookston to play out any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
even spookstron isn't that much of a masochist holy shit that sounds so unpleasant to play that way lol
Retarded idea
I love playing the TD version of this as well (Kanonen Jpz 4/5). Same gun and same mobility, just without the turret.
Good day, Spookton. Might I humbly suggest delving into the Leopard A1A1 for your next video?
bro this is not the 1700's
@@Dachi12 Oh, I think I have mistaken the time period, then. I'm very sorry, my good sir, I shall not talk like this, nomore.
@@Dachi12 riight, because being polite is so outdated nowadays...
Yes@@Romczy
That Super Pershing shot was PURE NEURON Activation
earliest i've been to a spookston vid
Man the quality of your editing just improves with each new video
I had the opportunity to sit in and operate the turret of a fox here in the US for one whole $1
You know what vehicle is a little goblin with funny HEAT rounds? The Type 60 SPRG
Do you know what vechicle would be good to test HEAT and HESH rounds at the same time? The Lancia 3Ro 100/17. I assure, that would be very fun video.
Fun for viewers, that is.
I wonder. Usually I just use the HE which takes out 90% of tanks easily. Then a couple of AP and HEAT for German and French tanks with armor.
Remember to NEVER even THINK the words "bomb", "CAS" or the phrase, "things seem to be going well" until AFTER the match least you summon the gods of nope.
Video 4 of asking spookston to play the TO-55
Spookston: "What happened to my shell?"
Gaijin: "Gone Reduced to Atoms...."
probably
Now if only we could get either the Spähpanzer Luchs or the Spähpanzer SP I.C. into the game as more fun for the light tanks of the 1950s and 1960s Bundeswehr toy box.
Agreed, I so want the 8x8 armored car.
they’ll be battle pass or eveNt
i want the other Luchs more tbh, the Pz. II L would be very fun
5:23 britain names its tank models something starting with c as a holdover from back when they had cruiser tanks and infantry tanks, the centurion was technically a cruiser before they decided to use it as a ‘universal tank’ and eventually a main battle tank. from then on they just stuck with it
Day three of asking Spookston to play War Thunder with TheRussianBadger.
"He got, absolutely KRUMPED"-Spookston 2024
my sleeper ork agent noggin:
ey iz dat our warboss? WAAAAGH!
by the time spookston finaly plays the ro-go exp... the whole universe would be gone
Now I need a video on the T-92. Even pre buff I loved that vehicle and now it feels so good to play
00:11 "Broken"? No, it was quite at home at 6.7, it's just that all the other tanks at that BR didn't like having it in their home 😂
"Finally getting a good light tank" My brother have you ever played the German Bulldog?
4th spookston upload of asking him to play the south african TTD/Olifant MK2
Hell yeah, those two are goated. Olifant especially. I mean, gen 2 thermals and LRF at 9.3 is insane
@@riatorex8722yep
This video is worth Staying in a basement to survive a tornado. Your videos are the best spookston
Spooky boy, PLEASE start scouting your targets before you shoot them PLEASE it hurts me so much
Always love the Halo sound effects in your videos
One year and 74 days of asking for the Foch
This tank was my favorite for a LONG time... Helped me Grind from around 6.3 to 8.0... And it should still be my most used tank..
it kinda makes me appreciate GHPC even more seeing how HEAT acts in that game compared to WT. In here it's just 3-4 spall fragments and the big projectile, meanwhile in ghpc the tanks (if you can penetrate them) get absolutely COVERED in shrapnel.
4:50 i thought he was going to say that he got absolutely clowned on but he didn't making me sad. (I miss it)
Day 6 of asking Spookston to play the IS-3
7:56 Ah, I' not the only one who experiences friendlies with missing tracks
Day 3 of asking Spookybear to play War Thunder Mobile
Oh man, well..... I think at least getting CAS'd isn't much be a problem for him.
Is WT mobile managed by a different team?
6:37 after that I was like "Now spookston is getting bombed for sure" but the least thing I was expecting was him getting bombed by his teammate
Day 14 of asking for 8.7 gepard as antitank
6:16 That clap sound jumpscared me so much I spilled my coffee.
DAY 13 ASKING SPOOSKTON TO PLEASE PLAY ANY CHALLENGER 2
I've been playing War Thunder since about a month after the public beta was release (you can imagine the play time lol) and I've never bought a premium vehicle. All I ever bought was premium time except when the Ru 251 released. I absolutely adore this tank. The mobility is incredible, it's super flat and can hide in many places other tanks can't and I have yet to encounter a tank that I struggle to kill. To me, the Ru 251 is perfection.
Day 105 of requesting CV9030fin
Unless you can get the enemies side, it’s very meh. Worse protection and gun controls than the puma, no atgm. It does have nice thermals though.
Spookston is getting close to play the leo 1a5
I don't know why people think HESH should overpressure like HE. That is not what the round is intended to do. The "HE" in HESH is there mainly to create high kinetic energy at impact inside the round. That is then used to "squash the head", or better to deal an enormous punch to the target's armor, literally breaking off huge metal chunks inside the tank that fly and bounce in the interior at ridiculous speed. That's why it works better on flat heavy armor plates. So, in contrary to HE, the HESH shockwave is mostly used for spalling, not directly for ripping a crew apart. Also, it is used more for demolition purposes, concrete etc, than killing tanks.
In my younger days I was trained as a tank commander in a Leopard I. I've seen some examples of the spalling caused by HESH inside a tank. It's terrifying.
You'd survive, your built sturdier than the average tanker.
but if HESH doesn't overpressure, doesn't that mean that HEAT shouldn't overpressure either? since it technically isn't meant to do that either... HESH, to the best of my knowledge, just uses a specific type of deformable explosive with a base fuze, but it's still essentially just a HE shell. Same way a shaped charge is essentially just HE.
@@doctordoggo8604 tf is that supposed to mean xd
That's how it functions against enclosed tanks with armor, a very light vehicle isn't going to care if it's HESH or HE or HE-FRAG, it's going to crumple. HESH's energy is not nearly as directional as HEAT.
@@Spookston me when i use anti-HESH paper body armor (its too soft to spall):
I used to have a very different perception of the Ru 251. One of my friends got it back when the IS-6 premium came out. We could never deal with them head on even with the HEATFS because the IS-6 at the time had one of its turret armor plates broken and given higher effective thickness vs its actual RHA thickness so total effective turret armor was like 300mm+ so 90mm HEAT couldn't pen.
I absolutely love this tank, one of my favorites for sure, its just a shame it doesnt really have a lineup around it
3:17 "Wheeled vehicles are like Teslas..."
Meanwhile Fox at 4900 RPM...
Back then, this and the Leopard 1 were the banes of my existence when my grind was at 6.3 SU.
That turret pop off was by far and yonder the best one I've ever seen. That was good enough for the War Thunder clips channel.
RU 251 used to be the most hated tank back in the day. Everyone and their dog got one - it was (used to be; dunno about now) fast, it hit hard, it had a good gun/ammo. Twas a hellcat of... whatever BR it was at. 7? 7.3? Or something? Yeah.
I think it was 6.7 when it was added💀
I remember when back in the years it was so popular at least 1 player used it every match, and how formidable it was
I like to imagine that across the map someone saw that Super pershings Turret just absolutely get blasted to the moon and being amazed at it.
Your videos are relaxing after a long day at work. By the way I wish Gaijin made solid shot, APDS and HESH as effective as they should be.
He did the 😯 when he pulled that Judgment Dragon. Congrats man.
My favorite game while watching spookston's war thunder videos is guessing what word will come after "He got absolutely..."
I’m surprised there was only one CAS incident in this video
spook is so cas magnet that even when he don't get cas'ed, he got friendly cas'ed
13:08 Y'know, I like the SAV a lot, and often play it above its BR, but I'm not crazy enough to bring it up to whatever BR this is.
When I first got the Ru251 it was still back at 6.7. Those were insane times.
Had a moment with a fox just like that. 90 mil kanonen jagdpanzer heat passed right through the flat side of the fox. No spall nor did it even slow down.
Took this long for gaijin to realize that a jet of molten copper traveling at 7000 m/s hurts people.
the vidar smacking the aml 90 was just so comical
U should play the JP 4-5. It is basically a casemate RU 251 but a little bit stealthier. I grinded a lot of the German tree with it.
You should play the pbil m/40. Its a Swedish premium tank that has a 20mm autocannon with good pen at 2.0. The tank is very similar to the low tier sdkfz with the added bonus of a much bigger mag. It also 6 crew for some reason making it extremely survivable unlike the kfz.
Spookston enjoying 90mm HEAT? Absolutely preposterous!
The one video spookston didn't get cas by enemy team, got cas by a friendly pe8
Since HEAT has been buffed, I challenge you to play any of the German tanks armed with the 88KwK or 88PaK and use only the Hl Gr 39 HEAT Shell. Personally I recommend the Jagdpanther, but if you really want to suffer you can play the Nashorn.
Rare video where Spookston only got CAS'd once. And by a teammate no less.
Practicing english with Spookston, what a pleasure
Honestly, I'm an enormous player of RU251 since it came out, and even since, I always find that its heat-fs was quite powerful compared to other tanks (especially Leopard's one), for me it was always a pleasure to play this tank, you can like, anihilate everything that moves in your sight range
They Buffed the F4D skyrays flight performance and now its an insane fighter at 9.0 with 4 aim9bs or 98 mighty mouse rockets , it also rocks 4x20mms with anti aircraft rounds ,
7:09 you know you saying about him pretty kindly for what he did. i like it. or just after few years of playing war thunder you just unable to being angry
Spookston finally just having a good time. 👍
My favorite youtuber gas finally made a video on my favorite tank
God remember when this thing was at 6.7
Wow, this has to be a record, an entire video without dying to an (enemy) aircraft.
Bro that Super Pershings turret crossed the river styx 🎉
I remember the glory days of having a literal leopard basically in my 6.7 lineup with my kingtigers Panther 2 and Coelian
My night routine, watching spookston while drinking hot chocolate
I look forward to seeing you play the PLZ130! I usually just shorten it to that, as it makes it easier to type and say, as well as being a quick distinguishing name from the regular PLZ83.
7:55 I think that AMX-50 was wondering where its tracks had gone.
Something about the Fox. It took 3 direct hits from the JPZ-4-5 to kill and I got hit once by another Fox to die.
Its always a good day when Spookston Uploads