@@314299 Well that’s not much different then now. 1500 in Canada are $400, or $295 USD. So it’s really only gone up inflation rate during the last 8 years. Now 20 years ago it was crazy cheap
It says that is 7.62mm Normal type (steel). That is for type 56 (Chinese type AK47). On the right it says 2/1 boxes, made about 1985 product by No. 16 factory. I was served in Chinese army for 3 years, I think those are reserve ammo cause back in my days there only one big metal case inside the wood box. We used to keep the ammo that says "2/1" and used "1/1" which is only has one case inside.
Used to be $99.00 per crate like that. That was my America. Id get 2 crates at a time. It was nothing unusual to each shoot 300 rounds off on a weekend. We all had AK's that were preban semi autos , and like 30 30 round mags for them. Now all thats gone, and most of my old pals have passed . Everything about today makes me sick when i think of how things used to be .
We never had 7.62x39 quite that cheap up here, but I have bought it for $180 a crate (Czech surplus). I agree the present does not compare very well with the past and the future looks even worse....
@@314299down here in the mid 80's if you bought a 69$ sks you could get a crate or 2 with the purchase if there was a lot of sks up for sale at that show. The cheapest I remember being able to buy a case of ammo was 39$ or 49$ not sure which its been a long time ago
Here is the BETTER translation! (hope your system can indicate Chinese characters!) 7.62普(钢): 7.62 Ball Ammunition(steel). Usually, the "steel" means "bimetal". If the character is “钢涂”， it means "lacquer-coated". It's rare to find "铜" (copper). 56式: Type 56. There are three Type 56 weapons: Type 56 semiautomatic rifle (SKS), Type 56 "submachine gun" (AK), and Type 56 LMG (RPD). They all use 7.62×39mm ammo. 750发: 750rds 2/1樟16/67-85: This line is the info of the powder. "2/1樟" is the name of powder, meaning the powder has one through-hole and been treated with 樟脑 (camphor). The "burning layer" is about 0.2mm thick. "16/67-85" means LOT 16, year 67, factory 85. 15-82-61: the production date, LOT 15, year 82 factory 61.
War Dogs, Apparently: Change the packaging and VOILA, nobody thinks it’s Chinese Ammunition and with that, it can somehow circumvent the ban or some shit like that. Only problem, he didn’t pay the box guy because the idiot apparently got TOO GREEDY for his own good and because of that, they got busted by the Feds. End of Story
This video makes me so emotional. I remember going to gun shows and buying these for $99.00. Actually the ones I use to buy were 1750 rounds. Great Blamo!!
The 56 stands for the bullet tip to bolt-face length of the ammunition. They're actually 7.62x56. The longer 7.62x54r machine gun ammo is 7.62x77(/78) and so-on. the western method of listing the cartridge chamber size made more sense so the rest of the world started using it but some of the old labeling dies very very hard. There are some packages still made in Europe that still list the 56mm as well. Also you'll see Czech 7.62x45 labeled "59"
Bush Sr. signed the late 80’s Chinese arms ban. His son extended the ban. Also why would you want to support a totalitarian communist government that routinely jails and murders dissidents and whose arms industry (Norinco) was caught selling and even giving arms away to American street gangs, Marxist extremist organizations, and far left revolutionaries to destabilize America and the West?
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but there is a Chinese rifle with a 30-round magazine with a spring that gives out eventually if you put all 30 rounds in it. The way I hear it, if you only put in 25 rounds, the mag spring lasts and lasts.
In fact the word"56式" on the wood box means the ammo type but not the rifle. There are at least 3 kinds of rifle and ammunition named in "56式". For ammunition "56式" means the chinese type 7.62x39mm, it has copper jacket, soft steel core(it is cheaper, can save lead and more easy to manufacture) and steel shell casing(to save copper, and the shell casing are covered with a little copper to prevent rust). For rifles we call sks "56半"（full name ist 56式半自动步枪，type56 semi-auto rifle）. And the ak47(not AKM. At the age akm was designed, the relationship between China and USSR became really bad so it is impossible for China to get AKM design) are called 56冲 (full name is 56式冲锋枪，type56 SMG). There are two reasons why ak47 was called SMG in China. Firstly, ak47 took the place of PPS-43 SMG in china army so the new weapon(ak47) in solders' hands is called SMG. Secondly , the concept of assault rifle is really really late imported into China(about 1970s oder 1980s i think) thats all and i like your videos ;)
Chinese mil-surp ammunition was cheaper to buy than .22LR back in the 1980's. They used corrosive mercuric Berdan primers, which have an incredible shelf life when the ammunition is stored under proper conditions. Most surplus firearms chambered for the 7.62 X 39MM round, like the SKS (except the Yugo variants), have chrome plated chambers & bores, so the use of corrosive ammunition is mitigated.
I find it easy to roll the opener down one side to get a good tight roll on the key then just pull around in a circle the rest of the way. It's probably a little dangerous as it's sharp! But faster if you're impatient like me.
agreed. bought my first SKS in 96 and shot a bunch of the copperwashed stuff....dirty as all get out. But then again so is the bear brand ammo. Just a side effect of bargain shooting :)
I used to shoot plenty from AK47 in my army time. It was 1975-77. But my ammo was always lacquered in dark green. Never have seen metal shells like those you got.
As I understand it most European and Soviet made ammo was in lacquer coated steel cases, the lacquer made the cartridge cases grey, green or brown color. Most of the Chinese 7.62x39 ammo I have seen has the copper coated steel cases like those in the video.
Good stuff. Seems like the 1980's production is not as corrosive. Very snappy ammo. I was given a half a tin last year and was pretty impressed by the accuracy considering its steel core. I still can't get over the cat pee like smell. I'm curious to see what the powder charge is.
+nrainfidelforlife Sounds like you had a reasonably positive experience with it, I hope the accuracy is at least OK, but I have low expectations for any surplus ammo.
Look forward to the review after range testing. I'm down to under 2 crates of Romanian and a half crate of Czech, so will have to stock up again before too long...
got me all excited for nothing I knew this had to be an old post. I got ahold of some Vietnam issue cans sold them when they banned the so-called armor-piercing rounds. It was the best day of my life. I bought 3 cans for 30 dollars at a flea market, sold them for 750.00 at a gun show. great day
I couldn't stop thinking about repackaging it and smuggling it across the US border, claiming it was legal ammo. Claiming it's my own ammo grandfathered in by having been imported to US prior to the import ban. Or even denying that it's Chinese. That's if caught, of course. People cross the border to buy cheap booze in Canada all the time, also to bypass the embargo on Cuban cigars, so why not cross over to buy cheap ammo? Yeah, yeah, it's probably illegal to bring it in. Even though it's entirely legal to own once it's across.
Hi, I know about that Chinese ammo box says. The military reference a lot of Soviet Union arms system to build Chinese system, so in alot of things ,they didn't have much different. In wood box, line1,"7.62普（钢）" means 7.62毫米普通步枪弹（钢芯）, on English is 7.62mm normal ammunition with steel core (this sounds like armor-piercer bullet, but is not ,they just like FMJ ammo, normal, and lot being use day by day....) line2, "56式“ means type 56 line3, yes, "发" means contain how much round inside. and in wood box right line1,can't see it ,but they should by same like spam can ,"2/1 樟 16/67-85" ,2/1樟 means two can in this camphor wood box , and I'm sure with next, they probably means ammo cartridge material batch number. line2, "15-82-61"means this wood box in 1982 by factory code name 61 manufactured, batch number is 15 line3, "全重30公斤“，means this ammo with wood box, Wight 30 kg. ps.all this ammo look like made by copper, but is not, ther just have copper coating, inside they made by steel, China didn't like US have a lot copper resources , so .....ues steel ceas , steel bullet, will make ammo be chiper, outside copper coating give that ammo work like copper ammo, but it ues in non-China type weapon, sometime cause Jams. In new type ,like type87(DPB87) ,we still use steel cease, didn't coated with copper,but coated with paint...... and they do this with type 56 too...
(=_=;)sorry ,in right line1, "I'm sure with" .....should be "I'm not sure....".......look like you already figure out all this things...... when I typing, vid time just 2:38.......(・・;)
I'm guessing that you mean an SKS? Perhaps the SKS "D" rifle that took AK mags? There were 25 round AK style mags sold back then, they were Chinese and were originally intended for the Chinese Type 63/68 rifle.
That is the great thing about military ammo using Berdan primers. They have an incredibly long life, especially if the ammunition is stored under good conditions.
You ladies/gents in Canada are really fortunate with some ammo prices, and the fairly recent good retail prices for very nice examples of the Russian SKS. However....the need to clean any of my four imported AKs the same day after using corrosive ammo makes such nice ammo prices unappealing. I'm glad that you are allowed to buy a VZ-58 in 7.62x39, despite AKs being banned.
Till those stupid asses over at olypic arms made that stupid pistol , and clinton banned importation of that ammo ,heck it was as low as $75.00 for 1550{ the lowest i ever saw } , oly arms was told dont do it and yep ,dumbasses ,glad they went under ,overpriced trash.
Well I heard you talking about an "AK " But we can not use them or be in possession of an AK- Kalashnikov...(In Canada)... So Yes , We can use the "SKS" Riffle making this a cheap and aford able round because it "SKS" & Most of the ammo is coming from China now... So it is cheaper .. That looks like a good box!!! Right On !!! Happy Shooting in 2016 Thanks.
I think this is for the Chinese version of the RPD. If I remember correctly, the Chinese RPD belt consists of four pieces, each containing 25 rounds, unlike the Soviet one, which consists of two belts, each containing 50 rounds.
Nice informative video.... But damn I'm jealous !!!! If almost everything else here in the US is made in China, why can't we get firearms and ammunition??? Oh well... At least we still have Tula and Wolf. Love your channel. Take off eh
+Joey P I would say it boils down to your government and your domestic arms and ammo industries not wanting the cheap imports of Chinese guns and ammo to continue, there was a time that Chinese guns and ammo were cheap and widely available in the USA.
One reason we don’t get Chinese guns is: the Chinese can make the Ak47 and it’s variants for about $150.00 verses our money grubbing arms dealers have to charge the govt about $900.00 to over $1000.00 per copy for the AR16 variation No.4. I hate it, you hate it, everyone hates it!
@@HenauderTitzauf the Chinese ak was only that cheap cause they were demobilizing reserves militia and large amount of regular infantry in the 80s to 90s.
25 rounds per package makes perfect sense. 25 divides into 750 perfectly. If there were 20 rounds per package you would be left with 10 rounds in one package. Aside from that how did they shoot in terms of accuracy and reliability?
Package size for military ammo generally has some relationship to the assigned load-out for soldiers and the mag size. I am not aware of any 25 round magazines for 7.62x39 Chinese issue rifles. As for shooting this ammo there is a video linked in the video description.
+Gungeek Yes, they must have got clear of all that old crap. Ironically the ammo meant to be used against the "Imperialist dogs" is being sold to them instead.
It was cheaper to buy a brand new SKS carbine & military surplus ammo than to buy a .22 rimfire rifle & .22 LR ammunition. Hell had frozen over. Then Bill Clinton walked among us, & hell returned with a fury.
I prefer the Czech stuff. Stripper clips for resale, no cans as they come in bags. The bonus the box is better for other uses, due to having hinges etc!
Older Czech 7.62x39 came in metal spam cans, unlike the later stuff in plastic. I've shot a lot of the Czech stuff, and I must say I prefer the Chinese military 7.62x39 as it's been more accurate and the 1980's Chinese stuff is far less corrosive than the Czech ammo is. True the empty crates are less useful and no chargers, but I have lots of chargers already.
I know someone who has a Ruger M77 in 7.62x39 and he tested dozens of different ammo. In the end he told me the Chinese surplus ammo was the most accurate. I don't know if he was shooting that same stuff you have though.
+Prepare2Survive Chinese lead core 7.62x39 is pretty good stuff accuracy wise, however this is steel core so i doubt it will be anything special for accuracy.
For the Chinese corrosive ammo? Tenda Canada just had the non corrosive 1000 round bulk on for 339 Canadian. Usually see the corrosive going on sale for 300 for 1500 every now and then.
When I bought this years ago it was on clips and the clips loaded into an SKS. Rifle with bayonet, new with bandoleer, cleaning kit, oilier and sling was 79$. With 1 crate of ammo less than $125. Unfortunately our right to bear arms un-infringed here in the US has become up for interpretation. Everything from zipcode to origin of arms has been used to restrict, tax and infringe our rights.
+314299 Shooting Channel I bought a lot of 7.62 x 39 (several cases) on stripper clips in the early 90's here in the US. They came packed with 30 rounds (3 clips of course) packed in that brown paper wrapper then packed in spam cans.
Mine was corrosive also. Still it worked and other than an immediate clean up having to happen it was decent enough stripped with bandoleers. I believe they were dated in the 1950s/60s Ammo they neglected to use in Korea and Vietnam?
I bought it in all sorts of case/package configurations back in the 1980s. I even scored a good bit of this type of ammo in 7.62 x 51 NATO in 300 round tins on 5 rd M14 strippers
If you are ever without snips use two crescent wrenches closed right down on the strap side by side then pull them the opposite direction it's crazy easy
Thank you for showing how to open this candy box. I'm getting the 1100 case with stripe clips and after that I'm getting this one which will be cheaper
A hammer claw can also very easily tear the banding too. Just insert the strap as you would a nailhead... twist the handle around to tension the banding... and thence pry it as you would a nail... VIOLA ... !
I love your videos! you're like the Canadian version of Hickok45. I wish I had a collection like you! I've only had my PAL since Oct 2015 just starting my collection slowly.
Odd that it's not in stripper clips. That suggests to me that this was meant for the AK variant rifle with detachable mags instead of the SKS with the top load 10 rounds mag.
That can may be a hassle if you are trying to open it while taking fire, but there is no better way to preserve ammo. That stuff is as good as the day they put it in that can.
7.62 is the Caliber, 普 means standard issue, 鋼 means steel , 56 is model no. like : 1911 pistol, other 2 sets of numbers could means production Lot No.....
So, we can’t get this in the states, but we can get AR’s AKs and regular magazines, unless you live in a small handful of ban-states, so I’m envious in a strange way; wish we could get this, but you guys can’t get many cool guns and with standard feeding devices. Oh well. Enjoy!
These are very much sought after ammo too, light armor piercing. I got some from the Vietnam war time, The advantage in that war the communist has this light armor piercing that zip through very wide trees and a lot of brush, While the Americans 5.56 would go into3 inch's of brush. I tested the stuff I had and it went through a tree trunk as wide as my chest with no problems.
@@dragdragon23 I remember back in the 80’s at a gun show, new SKS rifles were selling for $69 each… and if you bought a case of this ammo for $150, they gave you a rifle… no joke! Bill Clinton came along and in 1994 stopped all importation of Chinese AK’s, SKS and Chinese ammo. As to the Korean firearm sell-back… that is coming to an end soon.
@@nigel900 very true! the price of the ammo was cheaper at 80 bucks a case. We always say it'll be here next time and it's not. Could of stocked up on the ammo big time! Remember the on side business that sprong up selling extra's for the SKS rifle. I bought SKS with a fiberglass stock, folding front legs, scope with rifle a hundred bucks. I seen so many trucks with SKS rifles in their back window was amazing, but not now!
That ammo is corrosive so clean your firearm well. It is considered match grade ammo. If I am correct there is a steel penetrator in the core of the bullet slug. A magnet to the slug will verify this. Very good ammo.
Yes, it is corrosive, however it is not as aggressively corrosive as some surplus ammo is. This ammo does have an iron core, however do not mistake it as armor piercing as the core is not hardened. The jacket is also steel, with a copper wash. It is decent accuracy wise but it is certainly not match grade, cheap Norinco lead core ammo will shoot more accurately than this stuff will.
+314299 Shooting Channel I have some that looks the same,yes jacket is steel however mine has mild steel core. I got it b-4 it was banned in U.S. Dated 60 and 67 My cans had wire on the top used to open can (really tough pull wire) not spam type can. It has red sealant around projectile and primer seat. Really not armor piercing but considered so by law in U.S.
I think this is the long term storage ammo there is a case that is one big can with a wire pull to open it also the 25 round boxes point at this being reserve ammo
the box also says樟， which is short for 樟脑钝化发射药， translated to " camphor passivated type propallent" ，the chinese word after 1/2 (樟)， I got couple of cans also in my garage. I used these ammo for my izhmash. not very accurate but cheap enough
Still cant believe what this round cost now...used to be so fucking cheap...I was plinking with knockoff ak74 ( which I paid $150 for 22yrs ago)..wish I could buy them at that price now...and could shoot all day without breaking $30-40 for ammo, although that round was much harder to find...i attribute the $ hike in 7.62×39 rounds when they started chambering in the AR platform. Which I bought one of those a couple of years ago. And no...not one single misfeed. I highly recommend Bear Creek Arsenal for 7.62 x 39 AR.
We get those alot in mexico pro tip when opening the can just wind the handle 3 times then just pull the ribbon around the can the rest of the way it's way faster, also its pretty handy for loading 75 round drums for rpk
In the US there is a ban on Chinese ammo that has been in effect Since the early 90s. furthermore type 56 ammo is steel cored if I recall correctly. Now with that being said it would be a mild steel core that was done as a cost-saving measure not a way to make the ammunition armor piercing. However some genius or group of geniuses at ATF Once Upon a Time decided that because Olympic Arms made a prototype AR pistol and 7.62 x 39 that steel core ammunition in that caliber was now armor piercing handgun ammo. That reason alone is the number one reason why we do not get too much "cheap" imported Surplus 7.62 x 39 ammo in the United States. believe me nobody in Congress put in a law to save the American gun industry from foreign competition.
The PLA Red Chinese ammunition can looks like it was designed for a left-handed person to open. The host has to awkwardly use his left hand to twist the key.
One million views! WOW. Thanks to everyone who watched, commented and rated the video.
Your awesome
Just wondering the price of this 8 years ago?
@@gcanada3005 $250.00.
@@314299 Well that’s not much different then now. 1500 in Canada are $400, or $295 USD. So it’s really only gone up inflation rate during the last 8 years. Now 20 years ago it was crazy cheap
It says that is 7.62mm Normal type (steel). That is for type 56 (Chinese type AK47). On the right it says 2/1 boxes, made about 1985 product by No. 16 factory. I was served in Chinese army for 3 years, I think those are reserve ammo cause back in my days there only one big metal case inside the wood box. We used to keep the ammo that says "2/1" and used "1/1" which is only has one case inside.
+Niko M Thanks for the info.
Is this ammo steel core??? I thought there was an import ban on Chinese ammo??? Hummm
+jason127x99 ohhhh! Canada that explains it.
jason127x99 I suppose it means steel shell case. Chinese on wooden box doesn't say it's armor piercing
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Used to be $99.00 per crate like that. That was my America. Id get 2 crates at a time. It was nothing unusual to each shoot 300 rounds off on a weekend. We all had AK's that were preban semi autos , and like 30 30 round mags for them. Now all thats gone, and most of my old pals have passed . Everything about today makes me sick when i think of how things used to be .
We never had 7.62x39 quite that cheap up here, but I have bought it for $180 a crate (Czech surplus). I agree the present does not compare very well with the past and the future looks even worse....
you're kidding me man i wish i had that
@@314299down here in the mid 80's if you bought a 69$ sks you could get a crate or 2 with the purchase if there was a lot of sks up for sale at that show.
The cheapest I remember being able to buy a case of ammo was 39$ or 49$ not sure which its been a long time ago
Soldier 1: LAST MAG, LAST MAG!
Soldier 2: Standby, looking for my can opener.
@AKUJIRULE No shit.
Still better than jammed m16.
You need to say all that in Chinese.
@@314299 士兵一：没子弹了，没子弹了。
士兵二：等等, 目前正在寻找我的开罐器。
Here is the BETTER translation! (hope your system can indicate Chinese characters!)
7.62普(钢): 7.62 Ball Ammunition(steel). Usually, the "steel" means "bimetal". If the character is “钢涂”， it means "lacquer-coated". It's rare to find "铜" (copper).
56式: Type 56. There are three Type 56 weapons: Type 56 semiautomatic rifle (SKS), Type 56 "submachine gun" (AK), and Type 56 LMG (RPD). They all use 7.62×39mm ammo.
750发: 750rds
2/1樟16/67-85: This line is the info of the powder. "2/1樟" is the name of powder, meaning the powder has one through-hole and been treated with 樟脑 (camphor). The "burning layer" is about 0.2mm thick. "16/67-85" means LOT 16, year 67, factory 85.
15-82-61: the production date, LOT 15, year 82 factory 61.
Thanks very much for the detailed information.
wangl601 the ak is not a sub machine gun, sub machine guns shoot pistol rounds . I am ok to be corrected if I am wrong.....
Damn son...
How long can you store this ammo before it expires?
Yaroslav Sokruta learn Chinese
*_Nice Hiss! Let's get this out onto a Tray. Nice! :D_*
Lmao , rations?
Steve1989mreinfo
Hm’kay
Steve!!!!
How did we all end up here.
What if we repack? 🤔
War dogs! I thought of that too!
War Dogs, Apparently:
Change the packaging and VOILA, nobody thinks it’s Chinese Ammunition and with that, it can somehow circumvent the ban or some shit like that.
Only problem, he didn’t pay the box guy because the idiot apparently got TOO GREEDY for his own good and because of that, they got busted by the Feds.
End of Story
Yeah, great movie.
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30 packs x 25 per pack is 750, or 375 rounds per can. i thought there was 1500 rounds
Spam can hack: cut off "handle" end of opener, chuck up stub end in adjustable chuck drill, attach to opening wire, proceed to speed open ammo can.
what
@@uuuultra put the opener in a drill.
uuuultra ✔️ ok
Running torque would likely twist the key in half if not careful 😉
普=normal
钢=steel
式=type
发=round
樟=tree type ？
Thanks for the info.
樟 is the wood of the case
No that character is also used for wood. Chinese uses the same word for multiple meanings even if they are simple.
@@christianewing1113 樟 is the pictogram for "Camphor". Early smokeless powder used camphor oil, so "Camphor" is used to represent smokeless powder.
Tree type u mean vietnam tree talker ammo
I can't even remember how many times I have watched this, I wish I could find one of these crates now in 2021
These guys still have it in stock: leverarms.com/shop/featured-products/1500-rounds-of-chinese-military-surplus-brown-laquer-case-7-62x39-fmj-2/
@@314299 sadly I'm in the u.s.
I saw big pile at Cabelas Edmonton, South
One hell of an unboxing video
Thanks.
This video makes me so emotional. I remember going to gun shows and buying these for $99.00. Actually the ones I use to buy were 1750 rounds. Great Blamo!!
I did not think they could get that many rounds in a case. Same size or bigger box?
@@314299 think he means a pallet of your cases
The 56 stands for the bullet tip to bolt-face length of the ammunition. They're actually 7.62x56. The longer 7.62x54r machine gun ammo is 7.62x77(/78) and so-on. the western method of listing the cartridge chamber size made more sense so the rest of the world started using it but some of the old labeling dies very very hard. There are some packages still made in Europe that still list the 56mm as well. Also you'll see Czech 7.62x45 labeled "59"
That is interesting. Do you have any sources/references from where you got that information? I have never heard that before.
I used to buy crated Chinese 7.62 x 39 for 8 cents a round before Clinton killed it--skumbag
...which one?
GeckoProductions Both.
Bush Sr. signed the late 80’s Chinese arms ban. His son extended the ban. Also why would you want to support a totalitarian communist government that routinely jails and murders dissidents and whose arms industry (Norinco) was caught selling and even giving arms away to American street gangs, Marxist extremist organizations, and far left revolutionaries to destabilize America and the West?
adjusted for inflation that 8 cents is .18 today
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Norinco sold arms to American street gangs? That's not good.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but there is a Chinese rifle with a 30-round magazine with a spring that gives out eventually if you put all 30 rounds in it. The way I hear it, if you only put in 25 rounds, the mag spring lasts and lasts.
This is what Trump calls Fake News
2:40
On each cans :
7.62 Normal (Steel) | 2/1 Box 16/87-85
Type 56
750 rounds | 15-62-61
Normally the PLA only load 25 round into the magazines to extend the spring life
I’ve had magazines fully loaded for 30 years that work flawlessly.
In fact the word"56式" on the wood box means the ammo type but not the rifle. There are at least 3 kinds of rifle and ammunition named in "56式". For ammunition "56式" means the chinese type 7.62x39mm, it has copper jacket, soft steel core(it is cheaper, can save lead and more easy to manufacture) and steel shell casing(to save copper, and the shell casing are covered with a little copper to prevent rust).
For rifles we call sks "56半"（full name ist 56式半自动步枪，type56 semi-auto rifle）.
And the ak47(not AKM. At the age akm was designed, the relationship between China and USSR became really bad so it is impossible for China to get AKM design) are called 56冲 (full name is 56式冲锋枪，type56 SMG). There are two reasons why ak47 was called SMG in China. Firstly, ak47 took the place of PPS-43 SMG in china army so the new weapon(ak47) in solders' hands is called SMG. Secondly , the concept of assault rifle is really really late imported into China(about 1970s oder 1980s i think)
thats all and i like your videos ;)
Thanks for the comprehensive comment.
762(common) steel ammo
Type 56
750 rds
That is what it says
I am officially envious. We need some of that stuff here in the U.S.
+ditto1958 no you don't :)
+ditto1958 I bought one of these crates in Cabelas Canada in boxing week $171.29 USA Dollars.
Vaping Ruben for 1500 rounds that VERY cheap man
Chinese mil-surp ammunition was cheaper to buy than .22LR back in the 1980's. They used corrosive mercuric Berdan primers, which have an incredible shelf life when the ammunition is stored under proper conditions. Most surplus firearms chambered for the 7.62 X 39MM round, like the SKS (except the Yugo variants), have chrome plated chambers & bores, so the use of corrosive ammunition is mitigated.
@@Gungeek yes we do
I find it easy to roll the opener down one side to get a good tight roll on the key then just pull around in a circle the rest of the way. It's probably a little dangerous as it's sharp! But faster if you're impatient like me.
Wish my local cabelas would get some of this. Good stuff there
+imperialfragments Are you in the USA?
+314299 Shooting Channel
Yeah, you damn Canadians and your chinese stuff.
+Charles T Ha!
+314299 Shooting Channel Yes I am, In Idaho
agreed. bought my first SKS in 96 and shot a bunch of the copperwashed stuff....dirty as all get out. But then again so is the bear brand ammo. Just a side effect of bargain shooting :)
I used to shoot plenty from AK47 in my army time. It was 1975-77. But my ammo was always lacquered in dark green. Never have seen metal shells like those you got.
As I understand it most European and Soviet made ammo was in lacquer coated steel cases, the lacquer made the cartridge cases grey, green or brown color. Most of the Chinese 7.62x39 ammo I have seen has the copper coated steel cases like those in the video.
Good stuff. Seems like the 1980's production is not as corrosive. Very snappy ammo. I was given a half a tin last year and was pretty impressed by the accuracy considering its steel core. I still can't get over the cat pee like smell. I'm curious to see what the powder charge is.
+nrainfidelforlife Sounds like you had a reasonably positive experience with it, I hope the accuracy is at least OK, but I have low expectations for any surplus ammo.
Nice unboxing! When i received this package my mom freaked out. Thanks for showing me a civilized unboxing lol
Mom's can be like that.
What did she think hey were… grenades\
5:18 No hiss... 👎
You've been watching Steve's MRE channel... haven't you.😂
Lol love that channel.
Look forward to the review after range testing.
I'm down to under 2 crates of Romanian and a half crate of Czech, so will have to stock up again before too long...
+ManitobaWolf Best get it while you can.
just think the air trapped in there, was from all those years ago.
random thought for the day
;)
I hope I didn't catch communism from breathing it.
cs512tr I thought spam cans were vacuum sealed?
I remember forty years ago, opening the surplus ammo cans, and wondering if that stench was what Vietnam smells like....
Imagine if one of those cans have the black death in there😅😅
got me all excited for nothing I knew this had to be an old post. I got ahold of some Vietnam issue cans sold them when they banned the so-called armor-piercing rounds. It was the best day of my life. I bought 3 cans for 30 dollars at a flea market, sold them for 750.00 at a gun show. great day
War Dogs brought me here
Mohamed Abdi first thing i had in mind during the whole video haha
I couldn't stop thinking about repackaging it and smuggling it across the US border, claiming it was legal ammo. Claiming it's my own ammo grandfathered in by having been imported to US prior to the import ban. Or even denying that it's Chinese. That's if caught, of course. People cross the border to buy cheap booze in Canada all the time, also to bypass the embargo on Cuban cigars, so why not cross over to buy cheap ammo? Yeah, yeah, it's probably illegal to bring it in. Even though it's entirely legal to own once it's across.
WELL,NOW THEY CAN BRING YOU RIGHT BACK...AHEM..~..~
The factory: State Factory 61 (Long Jiang Special Equipment Company, Ltd.) - Harbin, Heilongjiang province, People's Republic of China.
Thanks for the info.
As far as rounds being packed the US packs 5.56 for the M16 A1-A4 and the M4 platform in 10 round stripper clips for our 30 round mags. Go figure.
I'm not so sure how a 30 round stripper clip would work.
In the 80's , some of these spam cans had the original steel core ammo.
This ammo is steel core.
academy had these on clearance, got them for .12 cents per round, what a deal :)
They're on sale at PSA 😅😅 price they are now is ridiculous
Why does Canada get the good Chinese ammo and the USA does not? Need to lift the ban on Chinese ammo.
Because Bill Clinton.
Because you get all the good guns! Our gun laws are bullshit, our ammo restrictions not as bad.
Hi, I know about that Chinese ammo box says. The military reference a lot of Soviet Union arms system to build Chinese system, so in alot of things ,they didn't have much different.
In wood box,
line1,"7.62普（钢）" means 7.62毫米普通步枪弹（钢芯）, on English is 7.62mm normal ammunition with steel core (this sounds like armor-piercer bullet, but is not ,they just like FMJ ammo, normal, and lot being use day by day....)
line2, "56式“ means type 56
line3, yes, "发" means contain how much round inside.
and in wood box right
line1,can't see it ,but they should by same like spam can ,"2/1 樟 16/67-85" ,2/1樟 means two can in this camphor wood box , and I'm sure with next, they probably means ammo cartridge material batch number.
line2, "15-82-61"means this wood box in 1982 by factory code name 61 manufactured, batch number is 15
line3, "全重30公斤“，means this ammo with wood box, Wight 30 kg.
ps.all this ammo look like made by copper, but is not, ther just have copper coating, inside they made by steel, China didn't like US have a lot copper resources , so .....ues steel ceas , steel bullet, will make ammo be chiper, outside copper coating give that ammo work like copper ammo, but it ues in non-China type weapon, sometime cause Jams.
In new type ,like type87(DPB87) ,we still use steel cease, didn't coated with copper,but coated with paint...... and they do this with type 56 too...
(=_=;)sorry ,in right line1, "I'm sure with" .....should be "I'm not sure....".......look like you already figure out all this things...... when I typing, vid time just 2:38.......(・・;)
+Kevin Kevin Thanks a bunch for all the info!
Is it steel core like the older Chinese stuff????
Amazing. The packaging on this is made better than so many things these days.
I recall seeing the current Chinese service ammo is packaged in much more modern plastic crates.
The brown rappers in squares look like Fudge my mom makes on the holidays 😂
For skk I had a 25 shot round magazine back in the mid 80s I had rounds the shells were green in CLOUR fmj rounds
I'm guessing that you mean an SKS? Perhaps the SKS "D" rifle that took AK mags? There were 25 round AK style mags sold back then, they were Chinese and were originally intended for the Chinese Type 63/68 rifle.
Am i the only one who loved the Type 56 than the original counter part?
The type 56 is alright
Girls unboxing: New phone
Boys unboxing:
Haha
It has been 2 years since you posted this so my question is did you have many failures?
I have had zero failures/duds.
That is the great thing about military ammo using Berdan primers. They have an incredibly long life, especially if the ammunition is stored under good conditions.
@@314299 was it just me, or im blind but it didn't look like the rounds were crimped
@@foredoom25 They are crimped but it's quite hard to see as it's a modest crimp.
You ladies/gents in Canada are really fortunate with some ammo prices, and the fairly recent good retail prices for very nice examples of the Russian SKS.
However....the need to clean any of my four imported AKs the same day after using corrosive ammo makes such nice ammo prices unappealing.
I'm glad that you are allowed to buy a VZ-58 in 7.62x39, despite AKs being banned.
My "solution" for that problem is to never shoot more than one gun at a time with corrosive ammo.
Can't get Chinese anything in USA. I remember the copper washed rounds and the Chi-Com Steel core NORINCO
Till those stupid asses over at olypic arms made that stupid pistol , and clinton banned importation of that ammo ,heck it was as low as $75.00 for 1550{ the lowest i ever saw } , oly arms was told dont do it and yep ,dumbasses ,glad they went under ,overpriced trash.
That steel core was the absolute best! Punch a 8 inch hole in a concrete block wall in seconds.....
In Canada A similar round but for the SKS is around,
$500 a box there a bit ago..
I should see if there is a sale on it also!!
Thanks 4 sharing!!
+violeman This is the SKS round. Are you thinking perhaps of the 7.62x54R?
Well I heard you talking about an "AK " But we can not use them or be in possession of an AK- Kalashnikov...(In Canada)...
So Yes ,
We can use the "SKS" Riffle making this a cheap and aford able round because it "SKS" & Most of the ammo is coming from China now...
So it is cheaper ..
That looks like a good box!!!
Right On !!!
Happy Shooting in 2016
Thanks.
+violeman Actually some of us are "privileged" and can legally own an AK in Canada, however taking them to the range is a different story.
I wish we can get some in the states😢
I guess you'll just have to settle for our non corrosive ammo
These kinds of videos are amazing for those who can see but not touch it.
Yinan Liu; If all the products from China matched the quality they put in their military products we wouldn't complain so much....Hal
Man this is cool... we used to have the same system in Albania but the bullets would be submerged in Oil.
Submerged in oil? Never heard of that before. Generally one tries to keep ammo out of oil for fear of killing the primers.
State factory 61 manufactured in 82
I think this is for the Chinese version of the RPD. If I remember correctly, the Chinese RPD belt consists of four pieces, each containing 25 rounds, unlike the Soviet one, which consists of two belts, each containing 50 rounds.
If you are correct that would certainly explain the 25 round packages. Thanks for the comment.
When opening once you get the key started on the strip you can just grab the strip with a pliers and pull it off it is a lot faster and safer
The resulting strip of sharp steel is not as "safe" as the coiled up piece you get from opening it with the tool provided.
Now this is the only acceptable kind of unboxing video
Glad you approve.
Nice informative video.... But damn I'm jealous !!!! If almost everything else here in the US is made in China, why can't we get firearms and ammunition??? Oh well... At least we still have Tula and Wolf. Love your channel. Take off eh
+Joey P I would say it boils down to your government and your domestic arms and ammo industries not wanting the cheap imports of Chinese guns and ammo to continue, there was a time that Chinese guns and ammo were cheap and widely available in the USA.
One reason we don’t get Chinese guns is: the Chinese can make the Ak47 and it’s variants for about $150.00 verses our money grubbing arms dealers have to charge the govt about $900.00 to over $1000.00 per copy for the AR16 variation No.4. I hate it, you hate it, everyone hates it!
Well...now they did away with all Russian imports. So, no more Tula and Wolf. Back door gun control. Can't shoot the guns without ammo!
@@HenauderTitzauf the Chinese ak was only that cheap cause they were demobilizing reserves militia and large amount of regular infantry in the 80s to 90s.
The first marking is 7.62 basic (Steel)
56 style
750qt
The last one is the type of wood the box is made of.
Thanks.
7.62 Common (Steel)
Type 56 (rifle) SKS
750 Round..
All I know are these :D~~
25 rounds per package makes perfect sense. 25 divides into 750 perfectly. If there were 20 rounds per package you would be left with 10 rounds in one package. Aside from that how did they shoot in terms of accuracy and reliability?
Package size for military ammo generally has some relationship to the assigned load-out for soldiers and the mag size. I am not aware of any 25 round magazines for 7.62x39 Chinese issue rifles. As for shooting this ammo there is a video linked in the video description.
Chinese must be getting into the "newer" old stock :)
+Gungeek Well, if you think about it, it's been sold for quite some time now. It's bound to get used/sold up by now.
+Gungeek Yes, they must have got clear of all that old crap. Ironically the ammo meant to be used against the "Imperialist dogs" is being sold to them instead.
314299 Shooting Channel I'm sure any government wouldn't mind making a mint on old Ammo for a decommissioned weapon platform lol
314299 Shooting Channel imperialistic dogs :)
I bought a case of Chinese 7.62 x 39 in the early 80s. 2 Spam was in a crate, 3 stripper clips of 10 rounds in each paper wrapping.
How many rounds total? I would expect less in a crate if they were on stripper clips.
I paid $39.00 back in the 1980’s for the same thing!
Good times.....
It was cheaper to buy a brand new SKS carbine & military surplus ammo than to buy a .22 rimfire rifle & .22 LR ammunition. Hell had frozen over. Then Bill Clinton walked among us, & hell returned with a fury.
I prefer the Czech stuff. Stripper clips for resale, no cans as they come in bags. The bonus the box is better for other uses, due to having hinges etc!
Older Czech 7.62x39 came in metal spam cans, unlike the later stuff in plastic. I've shot a lot of the Czech stuff, and I must say I prefer the Chinese military 7.62x39 as it's been more accurate and the 1980's Chinese stuff is far less corrosive than the Czech ammo is. True the empty crates are less useful and no chargers, but I have lots of chargers already.
6:49 am i the only one? but the sound of that paper is like nails on a chalk board for me
I know someone who has a Ruger M77 in 7.62x39 and he tested dozens of different ammo. In the end he told me the Chinese surplus ammo was the most accurate. I don't know if he was shooting that same stuff you have though.
+Prepare2Survive Chinese lead core 7.62x39 is pretty good stuff accuracy wise, however this is steel core so i doubt it will be anything special for accuracy.
It's $349.99 now =(
+KThachPSN Ouch.
poopy prices on poopy ammo
This is actually quite good ammo, much better than some of the new steel case stuff, like MFS for example.
KThachPSN I remember like 3 years ago you could get them for $240
For the Chinese corrosive ammo?
Tenda Canada just had the non corrosive 1000 round bulk on for 339 Canadian. Usually see the corrosive going on sale for 300 for 1500 every now and then.
The only "unbox therapy" I need. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment.
When I bought this years ago it was on clips and the clips loaded into an SKS. Rifle with bayonet, new with bandoleer, cleaning kit, oilier and sling was 79$. With 1 crate of ammo less than $125. Unfortunately our right to bear arms un-infringed here in the US has become up for interpretation. Everything from zipcode to origin of arms has been used to restrict, tax and infringe our rights.
+worddunlap I've never seen the Chinese ammo sold here on chargers/clips, just paper packets of loose ammo or the commercial stuff in boxes.
+314299 Shooting Channel I bought a lot of 7.62 x 39 (several cases) on stripper clips in the early 90's here in the US. They came packed with 30 rounds (3 clips of course) packed in that brown paper wrapper then packed in spam cans.
Mine was corrosive also. Still it worked and other than an immediate clean up having to happen it was decent enough stripped with bandoleers. I believe they were dated in the 1950s/60s Ammo they neglected to use in Korea and Vietnam?
I bought it in all sorts of case/package configurations back in the 1980s. I even scored a good bit of this type of ammo in 7.62 x 51 NATO in 300 round tins on 5 rd M14 strippers
@@psychobilly4162 como puedo comprar y que oportunidades tengo para ir donde vendan las cajas de 1500 municiones por $79 dolares
If you are ever without snips use two crescent wrenches closed right down on the strap side by side then pull them the opposite direction it's crazy easy
Interesting tip.
How the us sold the ammo from the war dogs scam lol
Hunting Extraordinaire what was the war dogs scam)
Thank you for showing how to open this candy box. I'm getting the 1100 case with stripe clips and after that I'm getting this one which will be cheaper
Yes the stuff on chargers/stripper clips is a whole lot more expensive and once you have some chargers you wont really need any more.
3 packs per drum... The South Africans packed them the same way.
A hammer claw can also very easily tear the banding too.
Just insert the strap as you would a nailhead... twist the handle around to tension the banding... and thence pry it as you would a nail...
VIOLA ... !
Yeah, I'm sure that would do the trick.
I love your videos! you're like the Canadian version of Hickok45. I wish I had a collection like you! I've only had my PAL since Oct 2015 just starting my collection slowly.
I wish I had a range behind my house like Hickok45 does. Good luck with your collection.
Couldn't help but keep thinking about the munitions boxes from 7 Days to Die as I was watching this
The casing color is the same as the bullet... T~T
Yes, that is because both the bullet and the case are steel with copper plating.
Odd that it's not in stripper clips. That suggests to me that this was meant for the AK variant rifle with detachable mags instead of the SKS with the top load 10 rounds mag.
The Chinese were not issuing the SKS to front line troops when this ammo was made so that's a possibility.
Strangly satisfying to watch you open the can. I don't want to open mine. Thanks
“...these are 25 rounds. And for some reason, that strikes me as an odd number.”
I see what you did there.
I even like your comment.
That can may be a hassle if you are trying to open it while taking fire, but there is no better way to preserve ammo. That stuff is as good as the day they put it in that can.
That is true.
Got recomended this watching wardogs
Opening ammo crates, need to add Christmas music. Give it that 'oh, boy, presents!', feeling. Santa Clause remembered me!
Be a bugger for old Santa to tote around a sack of these, heavy stuff!
ammo for type 56 LMG? Belt fed gun with 100 round belt.
7.62 is the Caliber, 普 means standard issue, 鋼 means steel , 56 is model no. like : 1911 pistol, other 2 sets of numbers could means production Lot No.....
"Yea I work at the galvanized strap and finger cuffs factory"
5:00 omg i love these sounds ^^
Lina Wasiljew Finding the ASMR in an ammunition unboxing, gotta love the creativity
SumRandomGamer creeper
DukeOfTennessee117 Alright Jarhead
Lina Wasilijew be my valentine
So, we can’t get this in the states, but we can get AR’s AKs and regular magazines, unless you live in a small handful of ban-states, so I’m envious in a strange way; wish we could get this, but you guys can’t get many cool guns and with standard feeding devices. Oh well. Enjoy!
These are very much sought after ammo too, light armor piercing. I got some from the Vietnam war time, The advantage in that war the communist has this light armor piercing that zip through very wide trees and a lot of brush, While the Americans 5.56 would go into3 inch's of brush. I tested the stuff I had and it went through a tree trunk as wide as my chest with no problems.
Thanks to Bill Clinton, this ammo was considered “armor piercing” when it was not… and was banned from importation.
@@nigel900 they still banned korean sells of American firearms back to this country for us collectors!
@@dragdragon23 I remember back in the 80’s at a gun show, new SKS rifles were selling for $69 each… and if you bought a case of this ammo for $150, they gave you a rifle… no joke! Bill Clinton came along and in 1994 stopped all importation of Chinese AK’s, SKS and Chinese ammo. As to the Korean firearm sell-back… that is coming to an end soon.
@@nigel900 very true! the price of the ammo was cheaper at 80 bucks a case. We always say it'll be here next time and it's not. Could of stocked up on the ammo big time! Remember the on side business that sprong up selling extra's for the SKS rifle. I bought SKS with a fiberglass stock, folding front legs, scope with rifle a hundred bucks.
I seen so many trucks with SKS rifles in their back window was amazing, but not now!
@@dragdragon23 Amen Brother 🫡🇺🇸👍🏻
That ammo is corrosive so clean your firearm well. It is considered match grade ammo. If I am correct there is a steel penetrator in the core of the bullet slug. A magnet to the slug will verify this. Very good ammo.
Yes, it is corrosive, however it is not as aggressively corrosive as some surplus ammo is. This ammo does have an iron core, however do not mistake it as armor piercing as the core is not hardened. The jacket is also steel, with a copper wash. It is decent accuracy wise but it is certainly not match grade, cheap Norinco lead core ammo will shoot more accurately than this stuff will.
+314299 Shooting Channel I have some that looks the same,yes jacket is steel however mine has mild steel core. I got it b-4 it was banned in U.S. Dated 60 and 67
My cans had wire on the top used to open can (really tough pull wire) not spam type can.
It has red sealant around projectile and primer seat. Really not armor piercing but considered so by law in U.S.
5:18 - nice hiss :D
I know off hand that the RPK uses a 75rd drum magazine, not sure if the chinese had them but this could be intended for LMGs
The Chinese Type 81 light machine gun could use a 75 round drum magazine, and is quite similar overall to the RPK.
Pelosi, said you cant have it.
I think this is the long term storage ammo there is a case that is one big can with a wire pull to open it also the 25 round boxes point at this being reserve ammo
The Chinese apparently had many billions of rounds of ammo as a war reserve.
@@314299 yea or it could have been that was how a different country did it
the box also says樟， which is short for 樟脑钝化发射药， translated to " camphor passivated type propallent" ，the chinese word after 1/2 (樟)， I got couple of cans also in my garage. I used these ammo for my izhmash. not very accurate but cheap enough
Still cant believe what this round cost now...used to be so fucking cheap...I was plinking with knockoff ak74 ( which I paid $150 for 22yrs ago)..wish I could buy them at that price now...and could shoot all day without breaking $30-40 for ammo, although that round was much harder to find...i attribute the $ hike in 7.62×39 rounds when they started chambering in the AR platform. Which I bought one of those a couple of years ago. And no...not one single misfeed. I highly recommend Bear Creek Arsenal for 7.62 x 39 AR.
A sticker on the side of a crate that I bought lists the production date as 1970, in English.
That is earlier than I've seen on any I've examined.
So, 30 bundles of 25 rounds?
That tin of 750 rounds divided by 30 rounds in a magazine is 25 magazines exactly.
You learn fast grass hopper.
We get those alot in mexico pro tip when opening the can just wind the handle 3 times then just pull the ribbon around the can the rest of the way it's way faster, also its pretty handy for loading 75 round drums for rpk
No doubt that would work, but I'm not in huge hurry most of the time.
In the US there is a ban on Chinese ammo that has been in effect Since the early 90s. furthermore type 56 ammo is steel cored if I recall correctly. Now with that being said it would be a mild steel core that was done as a cost-saving measure not a way to make the ammunition armor piercing. However some genius or group of geniuses at ATF Once Upon a Time decided that because Olympic Arms made a prototype AR pistol and 7.62 x 39 that steel core ammunition in that caliber was now armor piercing handgun ammo. That reason alone is the number one reason why we do not get too much "cheap" imported Surplus 7.62 x 39 ammo in the United States. believe me nobody in Congress put in a law to save the American gun industry from foreign competition.
it so wrong I got way to excited seeing the ammo getting unwrapped...but I don't want to be right.
The PLA Red Chinese ammunition can looks like it was designed for a left-handed person to open. The host has to awkwardly use his left hand to twist the key.
It's mostly awkward trying to open as I'm working around a camera tripod.
I hunt for 7.62X39 in tuna cans and it's become hard to find. I prefer tuna cans for saving ammo for long term storage.