Intellectual Cuckoldry: Why You Love to Watch Other People Argue

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  • Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
  • a lot of people nowadays watch UA-cam chronic debaters such as Hasanabi, Destiny, Sneako, Fresh and Fit, and other similar creators to get angry by proxy. The resulting dopamine hit puts them in a feedback loop of constantly needing to watch intellectual debates. the more explosive and edgy the better. I've decided tp name this phenomenon: Intellectual Cuckoldry. No for real. You heard it here first. - OzymandiasV2.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 139

  • @draco_1876
    @draco_1876 Рік тому +105

    Honestly when you stop watching this type of content it matures you a lot. Imo the best thing to do is follow your own path and not stay online constantly.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +25

      real. a lot of people think what i talk about is “both sides suck and youre a loser” but its really about treating online people as toolboxes for ideologies, habits, and beliefs rather than prophets or circus clowns

    • @arshthescene
      @arshthescene Рік тому +2

      I agree. I feel bad when I hear my guy friends fall into this

    • @draco_1876
      @draco_1876 Рік тому +8

      @@OzymandiasV2 I agree man. I consider my self on the leftist side of things for most topics. But following debate bros just made me mad in the outside world. I learnt nothing except to be angry.

    • @tomatoglider
      @tomatoglider Рік тому +2

      I agree, recent years I was in a very bad state but when I stop taking these kinds of contents I feel like my life improved, not much but it did. Like there is more to life than just these things.

    • @Kentagumo
      @Kentagumo 10 місяців тому

      Thanks,man

  • @kwasiahenkora6583
    @kwasiahenkora6583 Рік тому +30

    Absolutely spot on. Internet debates today, are mostly unproductive. They rarely change anyone’s mind, or at least result in people with different opinions understanding where the other is coming from. At this point, it’s just entertainment for the most part. Keeps your eyes stuck to a screen all damn day, instead of being productive.
    You’re one of the most levelheaded content creators out here on the internet. You’ve gained a new subscriber, keep up the good work, Ozy 👍🏿💯

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +3

      thank you! have a new vid coming out tomorrow and then another commentary. thank you for the support

  • @ModerateDecap
    @ModerateDecap Рік тому +26

    Love ya Ozy. Never stop speaking facts.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +5

      thank you so much🙏. got some more content on the way so dont even sweat it

  • @myfacern7232
    @myfacern7232 Рік тому +10

    I also find that tuning into debates is a great way to gauge where the current political climate and discourse is going.

  • @elifoklan3766
    @elifoklan3766 Рік тому +12

    Glad that people who able to observe the internet content like u still exist. Love ur videos man!

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +2

      thank you so much! ill keep it up. gonna write some video ideas out during this break im taking and hopefully have a vid out by next weekend!

  • @unilajamuha91
    @unilajamuha91 10 місяців тому +3

    I don't watch it to get angry, I watch it to get some arguments I can argue with in my head

  • @MrBaner
    @MrBaner Рік тому +24

    Dude I totally disagree with you on this! I watched your whole video and I can pick apart your argument so easy! We should beef and do a head to head video on this showdown!

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +34

      only if we invite a high school freshman from a debate club and a fitness influencer as our backup 😡

  • @ripN333
    @ripN333 Рік тому +69

    Common Ozy W

  • @Scadrial
    @Scadrial Рік тому +5

    I am slowly becoming less interested in listening to debates online. One of the things I have noticed from watching a lot of these informal debates online is that if person A and person B get into a debate people will assume that everything person B said must be correct because person A couldn't adequately push back against all the points person B made. People in the audience rarely try to critically evaluate person B's arguments in isolation to see if they also make any sense.
    Also, these kinds of political debates have been going on forever, and often times you can find a much better version of an argument you heard in a debate by reading what the person who originally formulated the argument wrote about it. All this makes me think that most people are not actually interested in having their views challenged, but instead, want someone who sounds way more intelligent than them to confirm that all their beliefs are correct. Basing your opinions on a few debates without any kind of outside research and thinking is intellectually lazy.

  • @yumii155
    @yumii155 Рік тому +5

    This era of youtube is fucking weird, man. This video was pretty nice. Keep up the good work!

  • @JustinIsBackHome
    @JustinIsBackHome Рік тому +5

    Used to be like this 😂 I can’t believe that I wasted multiple hours of my life going on the internet arguing about random shit that at the end of the day don’t change

  • @warfieldv8326
    @warfieldv8326 Рік тому +3

    So glad I found your content man. It’s refreshing to hear more grounded takes on things. I got stuck in a whirlpool of watching this kind of stuff and I’ve noticed all it does is just grow any negative feelings I already felt.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +2

      ill keep it up! and yeah you get in such a pit watching it. i used to play it in the background and i eventually had to turn it off in general

    • @warfieldv8326
      @warfieldv8326 Рік тому +2

      @@OzymandiasV2 fr it’s hard to get out of but you gotta turn it off, looking forward to more stuff🙏

  • @andremeffre
    @andremeffre Рік тому +3

    Another Ozymandias Classic ☝️‼️

  • @clevernamerighthere9240
    @clevernamerighthere9240 Рік тому +1

    This is why I save watching that kind of content for when I’m in a mood to actively listen, rather then just hate on the opposite side to “my content creator”, and if I notice that they are debating someone who isn’t knowledgeable or eloquent the convo loses almost all intrigue to me. also I CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH: ARGUMENTATIVE CONTENT IS PROBABLY EXACERBATING YOUR BIAS AGAINST THE OPPOSITE SEX. respect people and think for yourself

  • @huxleyleigh4856
    @huxleyleigh4856 Рік тому +9

    Love the content :) But shaun and philosophy tube aren't part of this whole argument rage thing because even in their videos where they discuss specific people's views they treat their subjects with enough respect. (eg: in abigail's jordan peterson video it's a genuine discussion of his philosophy )

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      whos shaun?

    • @floatyperson1979
      @floatyperson1979 Рік тому

      @@OzymandiasV2 he is a commentary youtuber with a skull pfp
      youtube .com/@Shaun_vids
      (If I dont break the link youtube will hide the comment sorry)

    • @floatyperson1979
      @floatyperson1979 Рік тому

      @@OzymandiasV2 he shows up at 4:02 under video essayist

  • @chunghwa1
    @chunghwa1 Рік тому +3

    found through ig, love the vids bro

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +2

      thank you so much for the support 🙏

  • @rum9138
    @rum9138 Рік тому +6

    Intellectual cuckolddry is a funny and good way to describe it. A good example of one is the guy infrared, whos entire persona is anger and rage against right wing people. I was simply amused and entertained at his rage, mot the content or argument itself at all. After that, i realized how gay it is to just watch that kind of "pwnd liberal/nazi" contet is. Good vid.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      just found out who Infrared Haz was a few days ago… definitely a rabbit hole 😭

    • @rum9138
      @rum9138 Рік тому +1

      @@OzymandiasV2 Really, at that point I dont blame people watching guys like him, cause really it's funny AF to watch them go ape shit. it's a problem when it begins to become something you identify with. they ain't role models or idols, they just talking heads with anger issues.

    • @BlueTyphoon2017
      @BlueTyphoon2017 Рік тому

      He’s actually a troll I think.

  • @saturizedGoats
    @saturizedGoats Рік тому +9

    Love you ozy

  • @omarelfarouk5122
    @omarelfarouk5122 Рік тому +1

    I would love to see this video spread in the algorithms they will debate so hard with ya

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      gonna join the discord call and suddenly the topic will be about the Austrias industrial complex during WW2

  • @CiofaliniUnited-si8qj
    @CiofaliniUnited-si8qj Рік тому +3

    bro your so silly when your speaking facts I love it

  • @islamic_marxism_leninism
    @islamic_marxism_leninism Рік тому +5

    Facts!!! That's why my ass don't debate on my content. I drop content, I bring in people interested or similar in view, expand them intellectually and kick out the others there to cause BS.
    I would be lying if the debate bros don't from time to time drop truth but it's very few

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +5

      exactly. and then afterwards theyll make a big stink and say something like “i dont know what i expected going into that”. Clicks bro 💀

    • @fatkiller1000
      @fatkiller1000 Рік тому

      Bruuuh your iq is sub 70

  • @heckedge
    @heckedge Рік тому +6

    we love you ozy come to brazil 🇧🇷

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +2

      the CIA will shoot the plane down comrade 🫡

  • @nqpkin
    @nqpkin Рік тому +2

    I never watch them to get angry I watch so I can hear both sides and open my mind to new ideas

    • @nqpkin
      @nqpkin Рік тому +3

      Wait nvm bros talking about the lame debaters not the ones I watch

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +4

      @@nqpkinand people who debate people who are completely unprepared to debate

    • @nqpkin
      @nqpkin Рік тому

      @@OzymandiasV2 I mean Vaush never prepared but it’s still funny to see him flub around

  • @nant0
    @nant0 Рік тому

    Went for the title, stayed for the persona OST

  • @RusoAutista
    @RusoAutista Рік тому +1

    everyone in the comments talks about the topic of the video but no one talks about how great and satisfying the background gameplay is?

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      ngl its my first time ever playing it and the only non-satisfying thing about it is the controls. Its free with xbox gamepass and its called powerwash simulatator!

  • @arshthescene
    @arshthescene Рік тому +4

    We need more people to watch this video!!!!!

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      hopefully it catches fire in the algorithm 🙏

    • @arshthescene
      @arshthescene Рік тому

      @@OzymandiasV2 I hope so too man

  • @torkyforky
    @torkyforky Рік тому

    binging all your content you never miss

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      thank you 🙏🙏 more content on the way

  • @antiktestere
    @antiktestere Рік тому

    came her after seeing your posts on instagram and im not disappointed

  • @code8825
    @code8825 Рік тому +4

    Nice one man, algorithm brought me here, nice to see a sub 1k channel just out here doing their thing, on that grind, your videos seem to be getting a fair amount of views, so really nice to see, been considering working on something myself, so seeing stuff like this is encouraging to try and give it a shot. Bless yah and hope you continue to grow, best of luck to you friend. Be interested to check out some more of your content

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      good luck to you too man 💪. thanks for the kind words. got some ideas in the vault

  • @noahbryan9779
    @noahbryan9779 Рік тому

    Ozy keeps cooking. Good shit with this one

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      appreciate your support bro ill keep it up ‼️

  • @Cult_of_MiRA
    @Cult_of_MiRA Рік тому

    HURRY UP AND GO VIRAL

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      i think the vid im dropping friday will 😁

  • @N0wave333
    @N0wave333 Рік тому

    Came across from your ig. You’re giving a good point

  • @pickletheboi191
    @pickletheboi191 Рік тому +4

    most based youtuber

  • @carpet163
    @carpet163 Рік тому

    People like this are why I moved away from being political in my later years of highschool. It's just hate and blame thrown back and forth.

  • @talonkaine7121
    @talonkaine7121 Рік тому

    you smart, too smart.

  • @Temujin.Thinketh.
    @Temujin.Thinketh. Рік тому +1

    3:45 Liked the video. But if everthing did turn out to be fine more or less for most people there would not be a 50%+ divorce rate.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +3

      leading cause of divorces are infidelity and lack of commitment so id argue its more of a choice in partner issue rather than something inherent to a gender or even prevalent amongst most relationships

  • @THEMAN2bcjxnxmd
    @THEMAN2bcjxnxmd Рік тому

    Why was destiny in the vid if you didnt even talk about him?

  • @joeschmoe2256
    @joeschmoe2256 Рік тому +1

    I’m pissed 🎉

  • @Jack-V-Man
    @Jack-V-Man Рік тому

    Wow UA-cam is getting better at recommending videos.

  • @zunairaehsan5560
    @zunairaehsan5560 Рік тому

    Fresh n fit type podcast actually help OF girls as their paying subs increase after getting grilled by myron

  • @Saward420
    @Saward420 Рік тому

    But like why seek mental health resources and lose my internal rage when the dumb people online feel so good to rage at. But FR, it seems like part of the cost of this “discourse” is peoples emotional well-being.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      yeah emotional well being and loss of actual human contact

  • @Badfish1978
    @Badfish1978 Рік тому

    Living for the drama

  • @kevinbimariga3895
    @kevinbimariga3895 Рік тому

    Nah, I still gonna watch Jay Dyer debate

  • @myfacern7232
    @myfacern7232 Рік тому

    I watch debate videos to get exposed to new ideas and to hear the validity of ideas expressed by people I might not agree with to come to new conclusions aswell as to improve myself as a debater, a hobby I engage in for fun btw. If you watch debate videos for the purposes of getting angry by proxy and think of that as "intellectually cuckoldry" to me, it just sounds like you're outing yourself.

  • @noob14lp12
    @noob14lp12 Рік тому

    I’m in the first 40 seconds and I agree I am more on the right side and most of the right side steamers get so angry and loud for no reason at all I don’t understand why people like it

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      yeah its super unproductive and just leads to confirmation bias about the opposite sides of issues

  • @iwatchDVDsonXbox360
    @iwatchDVDsonXbox360 Рік тому

    I almost never watch debates, they are kind of boring and usually both sides are saying nonsense.

  • @beforeyougotosleep
    @beforeyougotosleep Рік тому +1

    the truth was said

  • @LauraMartinez-do9qe
    @LauraMartinez-do9qe Рік тому

    Only instagramer that actually tries to show facts instead of just memes. Common w

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      gotta mix the humor with the seriousness. thank you for the comment and support!

  • @ouaislem
    @ouaislem Рік тому

    I do get off to vowsh debates

  • @Basil_o_brouzos
    @Basil_o_brouzos Рік тому +1

    Why are you painting hasan as an anti trans streamer in the beginning?😂 plus he has the same beliefs for debates as you

  • @karlakleynhans1322
    @karlakleynhans1322 Рік тому +1

    Intellectual cuck. 😂 Nice one! I’ve never felt so personally attacked. 😅

  • @inkslavve6894
    @inkslavve6894 Рік тому

    Keep it up m8👍

  • @cosminv8751
    @cosminv8751 Рік тому +2

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @Wpeoplee
    @Wpeoplee Рік тому

    Sneako ruins my calm.

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      thats exactly why he makes the content he does now

  • @goatsee9502
    @goatsee9502 Рік тому +1

    anybody who watches breadtube always sounds like the guy from good will hunting who memorizes the same old talking points to flex his political enlightenment at dive bars

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      thats actually a really good comparison lmao

    • @BlueTyphoon2017
      @BlueTyphoon2017 Рік тому +2

      Well, no offense but the reason why that is is because it’s the same arguments on the right, so they repeat themselves because the right is saying the same arguments, not exactly the lefts fault.

  • @filipnikolov9955
    @filipnikolov9955 Рік тому

    I totally agree with you, these not debates but just dumb agruing over not jmportant topic. But why did you put azure scapegoat and hakim as an example, especially hakim doesn't belong there because he is not insulting anybody or making extra long podcasts, he just explains many things from a Marxists perspecitve and tries to ecourage everybody to read books about such complicated fopic, which i a really good thing. If not even ideal?

    • @filipnikolov9955
      @filipnikolov9955 Рік тому

      sorry about my wrong spelling, dont have mich time...

  • @BlueTyphoon2017
    @BlueTyphoon2017 Рік тому

    Eh, idk man. I mean no offense but I think this mischaracterizes certain things. Like, Hassan doesn’t really do debates that often. Hell, I don’t think he’s done one in like… a year? 2 years or so? The only reason he’s lumped in is because he does streaming. So, he just looks like someone who does debates. Destiny isn’t even a part of “breadtube” (as loose fitting as the label is, which is why I’m not exactly found of it).
    Vaush himself has also said he’s moving away from debates, and he kind of has. He doesn’t debate as often as he used to because every time he brings up his studies, the right wing person in the debate just doesn’t really care. It’s a complicated topic and I believe he talked about why he doesn’t do debates nearly as often as before in multiple videos. (Here’s one clip as an example: ua-cam.com/users/shortsVGKY4ePVs3U?si=eUnNJ1fXdZ_Uf41Q )
    This is obviously a much longer topic, but as someone who watches this stuff a lot, and to make an analogy, I get the impression that you’re not exactly getting the full picture. This isn’t a bad thing just, misinformed.
    It’s like, you’re looking into a window and you’re seeing people throwing stuff at each other, but since you only see it briefly, you don’t understand the reasons why or, you see them as the same just because they appear similar. Idk if that’s the best analogy, but I hope it makes sense.
    TLDR, I don’t think you’re getting the full picture, or mistakenly mischaracterizes certain aspects, and therefore you’re assuming that this is a “both sides issue” where both sides are “equally as bad as each other” and, that’s not exactly true.

  • @THESLlCK
    @THESLlCK Рік тому

    I don't care for debates anymore. I know I am right.
    Why bother trying to persuade those who couldn't see the light on their own? Don't waste your time. It is valuable to you and your family and your friends

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому +1

      i think that they can be productive occasionally and if the other person is willing to hear you out. making your entire career/brand arguing with randoms online a waste of time though i agree

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK Рік тому +1

      @@OzymandiasV2 I disagree with you on this. I'm starting an LLC so I can commodify this argument and make it into a career.

  • @VPixll
    @VPixll Рік тому +2

    Essays without the intellectual sparring became way more interesting than debate content. Red pill crap is just unwatchable. Literally turns you toxic when you go outside😂

    • @candide1065
      @candide1065 Рік тому +1

      You've always been toxic, Soyjack.

  • @CrimsonBladeWielder1998
    @CrimsonBladeWielder1998 Рік тому

    Based video 🗿

  • @Jack-V-Man
    @Jack-V-Man Рік тому

    Hey y'all, if you're on your phone hit share and then hit copy link the algorithm drools over that s***. Cheers. It'll help him out

    • @Jack-V-Man
      @Jack-V-Man Рік тому

      **after you hit copy link you don't actually have to do anything but I mean it would be cool if you sent it to your homies I guess

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      based and support pilled. love yall

  • @1312foreve
    @1312foreve Рік тому

    I used to watch vaush 💀

    • @OzymandiasV2
      @OzymandiasV2  Рік тому

      was never a huge watcher of him. Mostly stuck with Destiny and Hasan and the occasional video essayer

    • @1312foreve
      @1312foreve Рік тому

      Why do only white people make video essays

    • @1312foreve
      @1312foreve Рік тому

      He’s what I like to call an anarchobidenist

    • @BlueTyphoon2017
      @BlueTyphoon2017 Рік тому

      I mean, nothing to be ashamed about.

  • @TheDirtRacerYT
    @TheDirtRacerYT Рік тому +1

    common ozy W

  • @user-oz6ft4ud7j
    @user-oz6ft4ud7j Рік тому

    Vaush mentioned❤

  • @IIIISai
    @IIIISai 3 місяці тому

    Lol

  • @Cult_of_MiRA
    @Cult_of_MiRA Рік тому

    W OZY

  • @youngdefiant8395
    @youngdefiant8395 Рік тому

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @marlse
    @marlse Рік тому

    eyy vaushh