Simmy Speaks-What Happened to Omen of the Stars? (Part 1)

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  • @Qwerxxxs
    @Qwerxxxs 7 років тому +656

    Dovewing was born. Sister drama. Crazy Dawnpelt. Love triangle. Cinder x Lion drama. Flametail dies.
    This has been a poem explaining Omen of the Stars

    • @huffnpuffn8300
      @huffnpuffn8300 7 років тому +6

      AppleByZeSky I hate Dawnpelt and Flamepelt.

    • @huffnpuffn8300
      @huffnpuffn8300 7 років тому +3

      azurestorm Yamashita Thank you I didn't notice that till now.

    • @bectheturtle
      @bectheturtle 7 років тому +37

      Omen of the Stars, a ballad
      Dove:
      Cheery, listening
      Tried to be there, yet I was not
      Given a mentor, one to teach me of what I will know
      Overwhelmed in the fact told to me
      that I am one, one of three
      three powerful cats in a prophecy
      Troubled, outcast, tryed to make the best of it
      Caught all I could, did what I may
      what I may to be perfect
      Heard, heard a sound so distant before, now on a quest, naive of what i'll do
      New friends, not friends
      taught to think before I care
      before I act without consent
      Made higher in status, proud on the surface
      deep down trying to fight the worries residing
      Learned of darkness inside one I cared for
      She faced the other way, locked me out
      Thought I'd turn, turn to others who called
      Only one there, forbidden to love
      Watched from the outside, heard but not talked
      Fighting wars already fought, really worth all it costs?
      Lost, in silence
      Jay:
      Healing, healing, trauma
      Clanmates try to help, I don't want it
      Not living to potential
      ATTACKED
      by evil edgy half-brother
      tried to pain those undeserved
      Fallen tree, killing him, hurting her
      Dragging, dragging, limbs flailing
      how do I help?
      Vision's corner saw him slipping, sliding
      the ice cracking and splitting below
      could not get there in time
      DIVED down the cold flow
      everything blurred, dark
      THEN a vision of forgotten, led to betrayl of the flame cat
      Lion:
      Strong, brave
      Content yet not
      For all know of what we have lost
      and the bad we gained
      Resentment
      Then, out of air, training is bestowed
      Given to the Dove and the Ivy
      So young, naive, unshaped
      Teaching beside the friend of my sister
      my sister, gone
      Journey, given to that of the Courageous and the Caring
      Fought the unknown, having a traveler beside, die
      Learning the young think all are they friends
      Teaching to the confused and hurt, that is not the case
      Loved,now by a Co-Scholar
      Only once had before, with a beautiful secret cat
      Following the seekers of solstice, to tunnels familiar
      An old face found, so dark and grim
      Now found, to be brought back again
      Ivy:
      Normal, happy
      Eager, quaint
      Then my sis got all the attention
      A journey she was took apon at a moments notice
      shook me, shook me to my core
      Alone, lost, sad
      She was better, better and better
      Then he came, he took away the pain
      told me I was special, little did I know I would betray
      FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT is all the shadows knew
      Plan, plan, plan through and through
      Then a secret spilled, to ears of starry power
      Spilled to the one less inferior
      Three found out, then told the leader
      Next thing to go, Spying on the dark
      Waiting, surviving
      Hoping not to be found out
      A warrior forgot, comes home
      She is left all alone, cast out
      Non knowing of why she did the deed she dealt
      Then, BATTLE
      Running to the scene
      Switching sides, revealing deception
      Being saved by the mysterious memory
      Knowing, all has been done, and now I am free

    • @morningdew27
      @morningdew27 7 років тому +2

      Becca Stegman z

    • @dataquamareaniefromskinsee3761
      @dataquamareaniefromskinsee3761 7 років тому +3

      Very accurate

  • @Tanuki-Sama
    @Tanuki-Sama 7 років тому +918

    If Ivypaw's mentor would have been Lionblaze it would have made for a much greater development. They both trained in the dark forest, they both had turbulent teenage -cat years, etc etc. Cinderheart and Lionblaze's relationship would have made so much more sense too since he would have had to go to Dovepaw for the prophecy, and she would have been Cinder's apprentice, so there would be a reason for them to *talk*, it would also lay foot to a more reasonable jealous Ivypaw (aka my mentor doesn't pay attention to me, always my sister, yadda yadda yadda). Both Ivypaw and Lionblaze would have had much better developement this way in my opinion.

  • @mammayamma8881
    @mammayamma8881 7 років тому +788

    "NEW CHARACTER!" said one of the Erin's
    "Lets kill him and blame it on Jayfeather!" Said the other Erin
    "No, girls, ple---" said Sutherland
    "KILL KILL KILL!!" the Erin's chanted
    "FINE! THEN I KILL FIRESTAR!" Snorted Sutherland
    "NOOOOO" screamed the Firebae lovers

    • @bectheturtle
      @bectheturtle 7 років тому +44

      "KILL THE FLAME BECAUSE HIS NAME RESEMBLES THAT OF FIREBAE" said everyone in the room; the intern sits in the corner rocking back and fourth

    • @Lumoskor
      @Lumoskor 7 років тому +12

      Its Erins not Erin's. No apostrophe

    • @Sebastian-fs9zy
      @Sebastian-fs9zy 7 років тому +5

      Forest Hunter
      Grammar is lit, boi.

    • @LostSwiftpaw
      @LostSwiftpaw 7 років тому +3

      Wisp
      Wait Tui made The last hope?

    • @KenkuCry
      @KenkuCry 7 років тому +15

      As long as Tui doesn't kill Peril or any of the 'dragonets of destiny'.

  • @maurnavi6800
    @maurnavi6800 7 років тому +463

    Better call in Moonkitti to animate it

    • @theultimateusukfan
      @theultimateusukfan 7 років тому +55

      moonkitti should do all the series....new prophecy is next

    • @kkingsbury1853
      @kkingsbury1853 7 років тому +11

      Love how Dove paws eyes change colors the entire video

    • @archiemalcolm541
      @archiemalcolm541 5 років тому +3

      Gallus I lovewing dovewing

  • @dogdairy5640
    @dogdairy5640 7 років тому +667

    I was very disappointed when we didn't get one perspective from Firestar in the last hope! Since we haven't had his perspective in 3 series and I think it would've been appropriate for when Firestar is fighting Tigerstar to get his perspective.

    • @toboewhisker
      @toboewhisker 7 років тому +74

      I've been thinking about writing Firestar's perspective of his final battle for a while now, and if I find the time this summer I'll definitely get it out there if that helps.

    • @Arial-id8ey
      @Arial-id8ey 7 років тому +9

      toboe whisker
      yish!

    • @twigshell943
      @twigshell943 7 років тому +35

      Frostyink it would've also been interesting to see his pov when he died like what happened with gray wing, to see how he thought about his imminent death and whether or not he thought it was time, would've made a good end to his character in my opinion

    • @toboewhisker
      @toboewhisker 7 років тому +6

      Imitation Infinity Absolutely. ^-^

    • @toboewhisker
      @toboewhisker 6 років тому +5

      I’ll have it up by the end of this week. I’m sorry for the delay.

  • @Moonkitti
    @Moonkitti 7 років тому +730

    I hateonblaze lionblaze tbh

    • @huffnpuffn8300
      @huffnpuffn8300 7 років тому +23

      Moonkitti I fur-real hate ashfur.

    • @mango2673
      @mango2673 7 років тому +6

      Meanie beanie!!

    • @huffnpuffn8300
      @huffnpuffn8300 7 років тому +1

      ShiniquinCat ?

    • @gayjasontodd2852
      @gayjasontodd2852 7 років тому +38

      +Moonkitti, I do too. I always thought that his strength made him like a cliche Gary Sue. I also hate his design, like Golden tabby, with amber eyes? I can even see his eyes, it blends in with his pelt.

    • @stargxrl1374
      @stargxrl1374 7 років тому +10

      I love Lionblaze and I don't really like Ashfur

  • @amalphia63
    @amalphia63 7 років тому +59

    When Flametail was drowning Jayfeather tries to save him. Jayfeather knows he is blind and will not likely survive, but stills tries, to save him. Jayfeather knows how important he is to the Clans and Flametail was also the first to turn his back on his fellow medicine cats, yet Jayfeather pursues to rescue him. Thai makes for a great character quality in Jayfeather.

    • @user-ep7sg6rq3y
      @user-ep7sg6rq3y 5 років тому +3

      Yes, and I don't understand why people hate him! (I mean I do, but it's stupid...) BLIXEMI!

  • @vexerni3597
    @vexerni3597 7 років тому +158

    dovewing should have travelled back in time with jayfeather to do the whole tribe thing. I always felt like jayfeather hated dovewing and it would have given interesting dialogue and maybe actually built a relationship.

  • @achillesdykeza2063
    @achillesdykeza2063 6 років тому +43

    One thing I love is that in Bramblestar's Storm, there is a small scene where Bramblrstar, Lionblaze, Squirrelflight, and Jayfeather are out on a small mission when Jayfeather and Lionblaze start having a small snow ball fight.
    That scene makes my heart melt every time I read it...

  • @LZRDWZRD
    @LZRDWZRD 7 років тому +990

    The talking to each other point you made is SOO true! This has always been a problem with Warriors, where it seems like it takes a whole book or more for 2 minute conversations to happen that would totally give important information to other characters (*sigh* even Into the Wild is guilty), but I definitely remember this being more annoying in OotS.
    Also one complaint: I HAVE TO WAIT FOR PART 2!?!?! Tennelle what the heck you can't tease us like this!

    • @TennelleFlowers
      @TennelleFlowers  7 років тому +60

      Warriors is so bad about this, and it drives me nuts. These cats need to just have a few more heart-to-hearts and TALK TO EACH OTHER.
      heheh, I can watch part 2 whenever I want. >:3c

    • @fang3090
      @fang3090 7 років тому +9

      LZRD WZRD so.....have you found a beputy and a medicine cat for VidClan?

    • @bectheturtle
      @bectheturtle 7 років тому +2

      Zippy_19
      Where have I see u before? Hmmmm, a Cutie Juliet vid maybe?
      I know I've see u somewhere...

    • @river_riv._
      @river_riv._ 7 років тому +3

      LZRD WZRD the last hope is soo sad

    • @lordfaggatron1687
      @lordfaggatron1687 7 років тому +2

      Magda Tokarski I thought firestar's death was sad

  • @SelinaLee
    @SelinaLee 7 років тому +283

    "maybE THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER!!!" *slams fist on table* omfg lmao Tennelle youre the best
    but here's an idea, how about you try reading the books in the chronology you recommended? sign of the moon, then forgotten warrior, nixing the fourth apprentice entirely, etc etc. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that! I'm actually SUPER curious to try it because Im stuck on night whispers and hating it.
    I really hope this idea picks up steam, I love it when tv shows or books or whatever are meant to be read "out of order" for it to make sense (it's so extra it gives me life). who says warriors can't follow this as well? my dude you should send me a list of your "ideal" OOTS chronology and I'll try it out! :D fantastic video too btw.

    • @zosephdraws9962
      @zosephdraws9962 5 років тому +1

      butterflyidentity
      Honestly you could skip sign of the moon. ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING HAPPENS

    • @user-ep7sg6rq3y
      @user-ep7sg6rq3y 5 років тому +4

      @ Zoseph Cooper Iv'e read that book like, three months ago? I don't remember a thing, and I was like, 'oh wait, nothing DID happen in that book!'
      and I still remember the scene when Brindleface died and Cloudtail said, "Why her?" ;^;
      and the scene when Sandstorm as an apprentice, wanting to give Firestar (as an apprentice) a red fire ant. (It's in the Enter the Code, or whatever that book it called)

    • @bsgenius22
      @bsgenius22 5 років тому +2

      @@zosephdraws9962 I'm halfway through it and omg I want to die

    • @sarahstevens4931
      @sarahstevens4931 4 роки тому

      Cutezilla it was Squilf to LeafKit, and Sand made them switch and Squilf had to deal with it

  • @emmacobb5377
    @emmacobb5377 7 років тому +46

    Something about when the cats travel to the mountains makes me want to burn the book. When I thought that they were done traveling to the tribe, I got the omen of the stars series, and saw the cover of the fourth one, and nearly roasted the book in the oven.

  • @yeniseitube01
    @yeniseitube01 7 років тому +133

    Totally agree with what you've said! Whta bothers me the most about OotS is that everyone calls Dovewing a Mary Sue. If you don't like her, that's perfectly fine! We all like and dislike different characters, I'm not her #1 fan either. BUT that is NOT an excuse to call her a Mary Sue, she has flaws, she is relatable and she isn't perfect. I hope you adress a bit about this in the next video! Great work, as always. ;)

  • @VyrewoIf
    @VyrewoIf 7 років тому +266

    Oh yes the moment has finally arrived!! Can't wait to hear what you gotta say

    • @VyrewoIf
      @VyrewoIf 7 років тому +23

      I believe oots had Great potential, which can be seen by the many good aspects of it like ivy and dove, and longtail' death (my god my bae) but it wasn't delivered properly. I definely don't think it's as bad as many make it out to be, and i haven't read in over 3 years so I can't be certain but I don't remember hating it any more than the new prophecy as a kid and now as a teen I can't decide what arc between 2-4 I like more. There's a reason there's so many maps centered around these arcs. The ideas were really good but not executed the best. Lots of people don't like the whole dark forest plot thing but I quite like that idea,(just me though not saying people who don't like it are wrong). They had 2 very good ideas that worked well on their own, a supernatural struggle of power and a family drama. They are not really good but just don't work together. I know I'm going back to Po3 but I'm very undecided between whether hollyleaf should have kept the same arc or became evil. I think what we got of hollyleaf was fantastic but if she had turned evil it may have given that one more thing OoTS needed from PoW. I'm really undecided about whether the plot should be changed or not, I feel like some ideas are really good (like yours and Spencer's pow alternate idea) as alternate universes, but I'm happy with what we got. I think the main story is fine, apart from the 3s power struggle getting lost completely, but is rather the delivery that's bad

    • @frostthepunk1212
      @frostthepunk1212 6 років тому

      I got 5-6 more pages on power of 3 on the six book witch I forgot the name to... It will take me 5-6 mins

  • @winkydain3168
    @winkydain3168 7 років тому +44

    Hehehe...The Fourth Apprentice was actually the first warriors book I read, even my 10 year old self was like; yeah no. Two years later I began reading them in the right order.

    • @Rebecca-ob3jz
      @Rebecca-ob3jz 7 років тому +13

      Aeva Pearson XD I can relate. I first read Fading Echoes and though I was confused, I was instantly attached. That scene when Jayfeather screamed, "I'M SORRY ROCK I BROKE YOUR STICK", I screamed that around my house until my mom took me to the library so I could get more Warrior Books XD. I fortunately found out what order to read them in quite soon though

    • @marwansobhy7050
      @marwansobhy7050 7 років тому +1

      same.except i liked it!
      but then i reread it.....

    • @ivecaughtthebiggaytasty7131
      @ivecaughtthebiggaytasty7131 7 років тому +1

      Aeva Pearson same

  • @dylanepicgamer_
    @dylanepicgamer_ 7 років тому +51

    If I had a dollar, I'd be able to be in Tennelle's discord. R.I.P.

  • @crystelthewolf
    @crystelthewolf 6 років тому +34

    "Well, ive finished reading them and now...
    I've got a lot to say." *sassy tenelle face*
    Me: HOO BOI HERE WE GO

  • @thedeidre5923
    @thedeidre5923 7 років тому +24

    Ok who else loves Sutherland's wings of fire series, REAL hype for the tenth book

  • @figuresss5736
    @figuresss5736 7 років тому +62

    I really think the Erin's are feeling the pressure when writing Warriors since it's the most popular series in their creations, and over thousands view it. I myself am starting to grow out of warriors, especially since most, or all of the Warriors code isn't followed anymore, to be honest only one cat took it seriously. And yeah, Omen of the Stars pushed my decision to stop reading Warriors.
    One of my best friends suggested reading Survivors, or their bear series(I forgot the name, lol) And both series are great, spectacularly written, and the plot isn't repetitive. Warriors is great too, but the thing that made Warriors great is not really there anymore😶

    • @figuresss5736
      @figuresss5736 7 років тому +13

      StormyStarz Yes! The Erins really only focus on Thunderclan! It's very annoying, I would love to see the Erin's base an entire season on another clan, or most of it at least.
      Thanks for the recommendation! I've actually heard of those books before, but I didn't think much about it. I might try it if I find the time.

    • @shinyfire3929
      @shinyfire3929 7 років тому +2

      StormyStarz Actually, AVoS is pretty okay!

    • @sarahtelkamp4345
      @sarahtelkamp4345 6 років тому +1

      The Erin's bear series is called Seekers.

    • @alexismonge7724
      @alexismonge7724 6 років тому +1

      In the 2nd book and 3rd book in avos, they talk a lot about shadowclan and skyclan

    • @alexismonge7724
      @alexismonge7724 6 років тому

      And onestar finally dies

  • @ShootingStarStudio
    @ShootingStarStudio 4 роки тому +5

    Can we talk about Jayfeather’s relationship with the stick? He had a closer relationship with a piece of wood than his own brother

  • @mango2673
    @mango2673 7 років тому +69

    If Whitestorm isn't there it's already a bad arc!

  • @avalonwatchingvideos2683
    @avalonwatchingvideos2683 7 років тому +76

    Excellent analysis, as always. I certainly have a few more things to think about in regards to this arc!

  • @damson14
    @damson14 7 років тому +57

    Except Skyclan's destiny... 😂

  • @bossbubsy56
    @bossbubsy56 6 років тому +7

    Here's a sentence that half explains the new prophecy's problem.They described a cat eating.

  • @azzy__films
    @azzy__films 4 роки тому +5

    Okay but I loved the entirety of omen of the stars
    Even when I was crying in my bed over Ferncloud

  • @mablestory2927
    @mablestory2927 7 років тому +27

    9:28
    I agree so much.
    I read the last part of Night Whispers.
    "I believe that when the final battle comes, Ivypaw will stand with us." (Or something like that)
    I turned the page, expecting there to be another chapter, and it showed the cover of SOTM.
    I was like, "What? Seriously? That's really the ending? Wow."
    I didn't even know what to say. It ended just, so sudden, and it made no sense to end it just right there. It should have ended like, a chapter or two after, where they have time to make something big happen, like a good, book ending plot twist. I really think they should have done something other than just that. That kind of annoyed me.

    • @koolkidcait
      @koolkidcait 7 років тому +3

      I remember that made me so mad. That's no way to end a book!

  • @Pierr.e
    @Pierr.e 7 років тому +4

    I gotta say, that avatar and background are ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. They're just so beautiful.

  • @saeflin
    @saeflin 7 років тому +6

    the fact that sign of the moon came out wayyy back in 2011 almost gave me a heart attack cause that was 6 years ago and I remember when it was new

  • @briarlightswish5797
    @briarlightswish5797 6 років тому +53

    Lol had no idea that people disliked it. It's my favorite series lol

    • @the3cookies256
      @the3cookies256 6 років тому +4

      Briarlight's Wish you do realize that just because you like something doesn't mean everyone else has to like it as well, right?

    • @user-fy1jg7kz7o
      @user-fy1jg7kz7o 6 років тому +1

      Even though I haven’t read the book I have seen the spoilers and i think I will enjoy the series but I really don’t want to read the last hope because lots of my favourite cats die aka fire star spotted leaf holly leaf fox leap and a bunch of others

    • @style_1023
      @style_1023 5 років тому +4

      KittyCat Sqaud-sian and Scarlett Wright I didn’t want to read it either for the same reason, but honestly I really liked the last hope! One of my favourite books in warriors, actually. So I think you should give it a try!

    • @user-fy1jg7kz7o
      @user-fy1jg7kz7o 5 років тому

      Shell232 you know what I agree I will give it a try thx

    • @hiii6450
      @hiii6450 5 років тому +1

      Somebody now finally feels what I feel when people say they dislike it. ( even though everybody has their own opinion on it )

  • @shatteredcurses7307
    @shatteredcurses7307 7 років тому +7

    Another common thing I've found with the Warriors books in general is that the cats don't seem to keep any one personality, it seems to be whatever fits the scene with the characters given.

  • @hiiamfromaustralia1929
    @hiiamfromaustralia1929 6 років тому +3

    I cried so hard at the end of book 6, Tue Last Hope.

  • @ss-ym2mc
    @ss-ym2mc 6 років тому +6

    "there's this weird sense in this whole arc that our main characters are too busy to talk to each other 99% of the time." this is so true! it bugged me so much while reading it!

  • @cartoneeggworks9271
    @cartoneeggworks9271 7 років тому +65

    Hm
    Tigerstar dies an epic death but it wasnt firestar
    *entire fandom gets pissed*
    Erins: nervous laughing ^^; well guess what dead cats are actually the same as alive ones surprise
    *Epic battle commences *
    Firestar : has survived white cough black cough more plagues, rat bites battle many cats and is defeated by
    A Tree '^'
    *drops book and walks outside*

    • @lazilycloud
      @lazilycloud 6 років тому +2

      Bellbelly he was killed by lighting and a flaming tree

    • @maddieedits
      @maddieedits 6 років тому +10

      Carton EEggworks he was killed by the wounds after fighting tigerstar. The lighting and tree was a sign from starclan.

    • @kellischroeder7030
      @kellischroeder7030 5 років тому +1

      Firestar WAS KILLED BY THE TREE. He got hardly any wounds from Tigerstar. I just read the Last Hope, so I would know.

    • @user-ep7sg6rq3y
      @user-ep7sg6rq3y 5 років тому +3

      I reread the last hope, and it said that Firestar died from his wounds. The tree was representing him: flame of the tree gets distinguished, meaning he had died. THEN the tree fell NEAR him.
      Or so I believe...

    • @eliannadouglas3408
      @eliannadouglas3408 3 роки тому

      @@user-ep7sg6rq3y ^^^

  • @Hadeshy
    @Hadeshy 7 років тому +18

    The only moment where Ivy get to talk about what she saw in the dark forest was the very end. I can't help but to think that talking about that earlier it the books would've make more sense than the "she's spying them for us but she never say anything about them. nothing to worry about"
    Honestly at some point I was waiting Jayfeather to think that she was spying on them for the dark forest as her spying thing was useless
    But the only real thing I disliked in this arc is the drama. Especially with Lionblaze and Cinder..Heart ? (don't know her English name sorry). I honestly ended up hating Lionblaze not because of the character himself but because of how chapters with his point of view were annoying. I preferred the love story of Jayfeather ; not throw at our face every chapter. No complaints of "we can't be together because you have a destiny".
    But, good point with the return of Hollyleaf: her evolution. In power of the three I hated her from the beginning to the end. But in omen of the star, I surprised myself wishing to have at least one chapter with her point of view to get to know the new Hollyleaf better.

  • @catonnafiddle
    @catonnafiddle 4 роки тому +5

    Dovepaw: Flipping out
    Ivypaw: Quit showing off!

  • @arcticsden9510
    @arcticsden9510 7 років тому +111

    wait a minute... Do my eyes deceive me? Is Tennelle... saying Dovewing isnt a Mary Sue? Finally!!! Dovewing is absolutely not a Mary Sue, and I don't see why people think she is one. here's why: SPOILER ALERT, YO!
    she has flaws, like Tennelle sort of pointed out. she was young and naive, and that sort of balanced out the fact that she had cool powers. She also gets a lot of crap about how she reacted when she 'lost' her powers, but seriously. If you had powers, and they were pretty much stripped away from you, you would freak out too! and while people blame her for the whole "Tigerheart and Bumblestripe" love triangle, she truly was in love with Tigerheart, and Bumblestripe wasn't her type. I could go on and on, but I won't. Pls don't hte on this comment, this is MY OWN OPINION!!! So don't flip out.

    • @noonsky1794
      @noonsky1794 6 років тому +2

      Arctic's Den The community is making people who like Dovewing see Bumblestripe as a nice guy TM. (I see him as one but I realized I might be wrong because I haven't read it in awhile)
      Shoot this was commented on a year ago...

    • @peachtea7269
      @peachtea7269 5 років тому +4

      I agree with you! I'm not a huge fan, but I do like her, though, as Tennelle said, she needed more "Me time," or better persona in a way.

    • @thornperished1498
      @thornperished1498 5 років тому +3

      WHy are you hearing through your eyes? Of seeing through your ears!?

    • @superhappygamer1162
      @superhappygamer1162 3 роки тому +1

      I know right? I actually really like Dovewing!

    • @cinnamonpuppi
      @cinnamonpuppi 3 роки тому +1

      People sometimes hate dovewing for leaving TC, she had every right to.
      Her life choices aren't Ivypools, Bumbleatripe, Nor firestars.
      She didn't do this for anyone else, she did it to have a better life.

  • @BlueMaroonAnimations
    @BlueMaroonAnimations 7 років тому +32

    Very very very great points! I'm loving your analysis of the book and movies you've been doing, please keep it up!

  • @twodogsandacat2573
    @twodogsandacat2573 6 років тому +2

    I actually really liked the part when Breezepelt started to beat up Jayfeather (not because I don’t like him of course) it really showed how loyal and stubborn Jayfeather was to Thumderlcan, and was very emotional for me! Poppyfrost was just absolutely terrified, and Jayfeather really stood up for her, even if he took a beating, they pulled through!

  • @lilydoves
    @lilydoves 7 років тому +31

    16:56
    Excuse me, I signed up for a review of OotS not a feels trip
    I never even turned in my permission slip ;;

  • @gazeunafraidd
    @gazeunafraidd 7 років тому +7

    Amazing! While reading this arc, I found it was... off. I couldn't really figure it out, but I knew that it could be better. This really helped me realize the problem! Your points are very strong and I loved it!

  • @bigpapaya9158
    @bigpapaya9158 7 років тому +10

    You make such valid points! I sort of feel the same with The New Prophecy, though. Tigerstar #173 ruins everything is kinda expected and is honestly boring
    PLEASE review Dawn of the Clans! That is the first warriors series I ever read, and is still my favorite hehe

  • @cardamomcoffeebean1530
    @cardamomcoffeebean1530 7 років тому +5

    I loved Flametail and it's nice to find some praise for him.

  • @luce1449
    @luce1449 7 років тому +26

    I loved the character of Dovewing. Everyone calls her a Mary Sue, yet she is not. She is full of flaws. She 'abandoned' her sister, she caused love drama, but she had such an impact on the plot. I always admired the 'flawed characters', they struggle but don't know how to handle the problem... The flawed characters are strong, but no one sees that.

  • @MythimnaImpura
    @MythimnaImpura 7 років тому +15

    I really like Omen of the Stars, despite it having flaws, its one of my favorite series, like you said. Dovewing sucks no matter the way you look at it tho. New Prophecy is my second fave though

    • @munchkinchalateo
      @munchkinchalateo 3 роки тому +1

      She's good a n y w h e r e other than OOTS- anywhere, that's when she gets interesting, and that's why most of the fandom despises her

    • @superhappygamer1162
      @superhappygamer1162 3 роки тому +2

      But... but I like Dovewing...

  • @ottohalbhuber4706
    @ottohalbhuber4706 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for posting another video, I'm a big fan!

  • @Specklx
    @Specklx 7 років тому

    Will never stop staring at the eye changing in your animation Tennelle

  • @moony7274
    @moony7274 6 років тому +1

    I get the urge to re-write this whole series now. WONDERFUL NEW IDEAS :D

  • @SkiggsMoDiggs
    @SkiggsMoDiggs Рік тому

    GOD THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE FLAMETAIL CHAPTERS! I loved those, it was the only part of the arc I loved.

  • @ruethechosenone5197
    @ruethechosenone5197 7 років тому +7

    I think giving the characters more chapters would have been a great idea!(entire book for Ivypool!)

  • @fraya1022
    @fraya1022 7 років тому +1

    I'm reading this arc for the first time, so I am very excited for this review.

  • @emmaolsen6446
    @emmaolsen6446 6 років тому

    Oh man! You are the best animator nice job I subbed cuz why not
    P

  • @spicysataysauce7454
    @spicysataysauce7454 7 років тому

    Wow this video is really interesting! You pointed out lots of things that I hadn't noticed while reading OotS, like how there are way too many cats perspectives in the books. Now that I think about it your right. (PLEASE DO MORE)

  • @wozzwald7869
    @wozzwald7869 7 років тому +27

    I'm not very happy with what happened to the warrior series. The first series was great. i loved it! But then the new prophecy... eh, it was.. actually really good! I loved Power of three, and then omen of the stars. Now, i *HATE* this series. its all about dovewing, and shes always whining about something. im not happy about where the warrior series has gone.
    I feel like Erin Hunter has no idea what to do next so they are just repeating the other books over, just with different characters. *No offence to anyone, this is just my opinion*
    ~Bunbun

    • @chronostc4850
      @chronostc4850 7 років тому +9

      You realize we've moved on to a series 6, right? Omen of the Stars wasn't the best despite my love for it, but the following series, Dawn of the Clans, amazingly made up for it. And now we have an even better 6th series.

    • @crisadence3707
      @crisadence3707 7 років тому +5

      Chronos thank you for mentioning Dawn of the Clans! I feel as if it's not even half as popular as the current arc and it's so good!

    • @toska5171
      @toska5171 7 років тому +2

      Dovewing never whines, she just acts complains because she wants to be like her sister, Ivypool. She doesn't want to make her jealous so she complains that she doesn't want to be part of the prophecy.

    • @GweenOfTea
      @GweenOfTea 4 роки тому

      DoTC is SOOOO good and very emotional, I REALLY suggest reading it.
      Gray Wing and Clear Skys relationship is so fun to watch play out, and to see the beginning of everything
      I cried so many times reading those books!

  • @zosephdraws9962
    @zosephdraws9962 5 років тому +2

    Okay, i agree with most of what you are saying execpt i think in sign of the moon it should be jayfeather and dovewing because dovewing needs to have her perspective, so the reader understands that she is shaken by seeing what she saw. This is just my opinion, and i am open to new ones

  • @skylarlee9691
    @skylarlee9691 3 роки тому +5

    The Three + Ivypool's relationship could be similar to that of The New Prophecy cats in your "Let's Rewrite The New Prophecy" video. Their relationship, especially with Ivypool, could be tested constantly, making them realize why they instead of any other cat were chosen to have powers - while it wouldn't be uniting the Clans, it would unite the Three + Ivypool, and character development and relationships voila have appeared!
    The sibling relationships could also be stressed out a lot as well, maybe incorporating Bright Guardian Akira's 4 Ways To Make Sol Better suggestion of a Sol-Jayfeather personal connection but instead in Omen of the Stars. And for Ivy/Dove, Ivypool could save Dovewing from a badger or a Dark Forest Cat (or Breezepelt . . .) and Dovewing could save Ivypool from something else after that, showing how much they would risk. This could lead to them fighting together during the Final Battle, and make Ivypool's stress of Dovewing leaving plus Dovewing's worry about Ivypool's feelings be a bit more prevalent in Tigerheart's Shadow/AVoS.
    And for Jay/Lion bonding . . . TAKE LIONBLAZE WITH YOU TO BECOME LION'S ROAR, SEE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS! MAYBE EVEN BRING DOVEWING ALONG AND MAKE IVYPOOL FEEL LEFT OUT THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE AN INCARNATION, FUELING HER LONELINESS!! THE CATS IN OMEN OF THE STARS AREN'T LONELY, THEY JUST LACK BASIC COMMUNICATION! Three + Ivypool could all experience their own loneliness, and eventually bond over and become a secure unit because of it.

  • @luvvydo5680
    @luvvydo5680 7 років тому

    you know it's good when she puts a "part 1" on the video.

  • @LadyBrightcynder
    @LadyBrightcynder 6 років тому

    So good to hear someone talking about this. I had so many conflicting feelings towards this arc, ending up disliking it overall except for a few key moments, such as Dovewing struggling with being overwhelmed by her power, since I suffer from a hearing condition that causes me similar difficulties and pain. Maybe I'll give the arc a second chance with your points in mind and end up enjoying it more.

  • @sonniebee9554
    @sonniebee9554 7 років тому +34

    Anyone else who actually liked Omen of the Stars?
    It's my favorite series.

  • @Dani-mc3qb
    @Dani-mc3qb 3 роки тому

    I love your map parts!

  • @spookyblue1112
    @spookyblue1112 7 років тому

    I wish I saw this video sooner, it's great!

  • @HannaGeorgeArt
    @HannaGeorgeArt 7 років тому

    Great points! I think I agreed with everything you had to say. The splitting of chapters among all the different characters is the biggest sore point for me. Throughout the series we know everything that's going on, there's no mystery to keep the pages turning. For example, Ivypool's plot would have been so much more compelling to me if for a while we had no idea why she kept waking up with scratches and came to learn that other cats in other clans were as well before eventually getting a big dark forest reveal. Instead, we know what's going on in whole and only really have room to wonder about what happened a particular night, which is consistently 'dark forest cats acted obviously evil and there was some rigorous training' plus maybe one important plot point. Everything's spelled out for us.

  • @dnairmd
    @dnairmd 6 років тому

    I am a HUGE fan of your vids. This video actaully is what got me into warriors. YOU NEED TO TEACH ME HOW TO DRAW LIKE THAT!

  • @pyrrhus1129
    @pyrrhus1129 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite books in each arc are probably: Into The Wild, Moonrise, Sunrise, Fading Echoes, The Blazing Star, and Shattered Sky, my favorite Super Edition/Novella is Yellowfang's secret, and my favorite manga book is a Shadow In RiverClan. (I haven't been able to read the Broken Code yet).

  • @giannatr06
    @giannatr06 7 років тому

    I love the Simmy design! It's so coool! I wish I could draw like that!

  • @charlietheuncreative6737
    @charlietheuncreative6737 7 років тому +2

    I'd just like to say: I think there should've been MANY "It should've been Hollyleaf" moments between Jayfeather and Lionblaze. It would've solidified their bond and how much they miss their sister, as well as make the tunnel scene where they search for Hollyleaf's body more believable. Speaking of searching for Hollyleaf, I would've accepted that scene being so late if the three made it obvious they were too busy to go search for her. Sad as it may be, they had lives, and they thought Hollyleaf was dead.

  • @JenDay515
    @JenDay515 4 роки тому

    SERIOUSLY!!! I LOVED IT IT WAS GREAT, just I loved it the way it was Erin Hunter was great

  • @tigerfang7588
    @tigerfang7588 7 років тому +5

    Omen of the stars was okay I guess but the last hope was my favorite in the series because it is just so emotional in the end when sooo many of the characters we grew to know die and lose so much. Some of the clan cats are left broken! like dustpelt poor dustpelt when ferncloud dies and like firestar when he sees spottedleaf dies and knows that spottedleaf won't be there for him when he joins starclan and then sandstorm when firestar does AHHHHH but by far I love the Apprentice quest in the 5th arc xD

  • @mousetooth
    @mousetooth 7 років тому

    oh my gosh, I stopped at the exact same point you did! Never read Sign of the Moon!

  • @jinxedlynx456
    @jinxedlynx456 7 років тому

    Omen of the stars is personally my favorite ark, and am glad you provided reasons it's a good ark :3

  • @KrispyKitty66
    @KrispyKitty66 4 роки тому +1

    OMG WAIT WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE BEAVERS I WAS SO SURPRISED THAT IT WASNT JUST SOME WEIRD FEVER DREAM I HAD BACK THEN I-

  • @charleshills1408
    @charleshills1408 4 роки тому

    So coming back to watch this once I’d read the books. I think I would’ve enjoyed omen of the stars ten times more if I hadn’t watched this.
    The fourth apprentice is my favorite book. I had high expectations going on, yet the next several books didn’t live up to them, and I think if I were to go back into reading them without the expectations-like I did with heroes of Olympus-I would enjoy OTS much more

  • @rutad363
    @rutad363 4 роки тому +4

    6:59
    ''Prophercy MumboJumbo''
    My brother-''Is someone talkig about my fave youtuber, Mumbo Jumbo xD

  • @pinedelnet5403
    @pinedelnet5403 7 років тому

    I love the new background

  • @pootr0st69
    @pootr0st69 4 роки тому

    Tbh this was my favorite series :,)

  • @kingstonb8130
    @kingstonb8130 6 років тому +1

    I still love omen of the stars it's definitely my favorite series even though I can definitely find some flaws it just really stands out to me

  • @gingerstorm101
    @gingerstorm101 7 років тому

    One of my favourite parts of this arc is the journey as Jay's Wing

  • @xxalliebearxx3595
    @xxalliebearxx3595 6 років тому

    i fell in love with yhis series the 1st day ii read it

  • @pearlytheegg3838
    @pearlytheegg3838 7 років тому

    This was my favorite arc before reading Vision of Shadows.

  • @allofcatherine
    @allofcatherine 6 років тому

    I personally LOVE Omen Of The Stars! X) I'm here to listen to what you have to say. Great vid

  • @Cheeseballzzzz
    @Cheeseballzzzz 4 роки тому

    I remember reading that part when lionblaze and jayfeather talk about hollyleaf in the tunnels. I loved that part because loonblaze and jayfeather actually talk about something that is emotional for once in forever!

  • @leighocities
    @leighocities 6 років тому

    I’m still on the fourth book of the second arc. Dang, I’m gonna be prepared for this arc, lol.

  • @maxnewcomb7245
    @maxnewcomb7245 7 років тому

    "Tigerheart is there"
    Not sure why that made me crack up. Great video!

  • @kelsieswain7187
    @kelsieswain7187 7 років тому

    Okay, I read all of these books when I was in middle school, that us, up until Omen of the Stars. I read the first 2 books, received the 3rd and 4th as gifts, but never got around to reading them. I got into high school, read other books, graduated, and now I'm working my way through classic literature. I always knew I was missing out on the rest of the story as I saw fan video after fan video, but I recently wandered into the kid's section of Barnes and Noble, saw AAAAAALL of the old books with the new covers, the rest of Omen of the Stars, and the arches that followed. I remember thinking, "Oh. My. Gosh. They're still going!" Part of me really misses these books; they were a huge part of my middle school years, however... At some point, I lost track of character arches (So many characters. So many point of views. So many romances and "who's kit is this? Where they from?"), and I was so behind by now. I would have to reread the first two Omen of the Stars books and the rest of the books. I just couldn't keep track, unfortunately! :/

  • @maxtothe1006
    @maxtothe1006 6 років тому

    I loved the last hope, it was soooooo cool!

  • @kayltynmckinley988
    @kayltynmckinley988 6 років тому

    That little "oh my god" on the pace chart gets me every time

  • @wolfiegirlxox
    @wolfiegirlxox 3 роки тому

    i just finished omen of the stars a few weeks ago and I actually enjoyed it

  • @sasimartinez4083
    @sasimartinez4083 7 років тому +4

    I have to say, That omen of the stars has to be one of my favorites because the relantionship with ivypool and dovewing, and I especially loved Night Whispers. The view we got on Shadowclan was amazing, and I really loved Flametail. I also really enjoyed having some view again in the mountain cats and Jayfeathers relantionship with the ancients. But there is also some things that I would have fixed. However, Omen of the Stars has to be one of my favorite series.

  • @user-fy1jg7kz7o
    @user-fy1jg7kz7o 6 років тому

    I’m up to long shadows I’m reading it nice and slow because I don’t have the forth series so I don’t wanna run out of books to read btw I love your channel

  • @theironiccat6228
    @theironiccat6228 7 років тому

    Wow you know a lot about writing and story lines and all that great stuff. You should write a book, or make an animation series or something!

  • @bvaphyx
    @bvaphyx 7 років тому +10

    *calls Moonkitti*

  • @sleeplessarcher
    @sleeplessarcher 5 років тому

    I am READY

  • @loon7353
    @loon7353 7 років тому +3

    I got the feels at the end ;-;

  • @phatuwu5368
    @phatuwu5368 7 років тому

    Omen Of The Stars was my favorite series... wow. I COULDN'T READ ANY OTHER WARRIORS BOOK FOR A WHILE AFTER READING IT! im so obsessed...

  • @cataclysmic4024
    @cataclysmic4024 7 років тому

    I only ever read the first, fifth, and sixth of the omen of the stars books. I pretty much got all I needed from that.

  • @winterwolf1549
    @winterwolf1549 5 років тому

    I like how you made Dovepaw have different eye colors in your little animation

  • @amimirs
    @amimirs 7 років тому +1

    Omen of The Stars was and still is my favorite series because for me, it feels like Omen of the Stars focuses more on the characters than the story. I love seeing all of the cats emotions and how they would actin certain situations. However because OotS has a lack of telling the actual story, you don't get to see what (like you said) would happen if one of the cats was about to die how would they feel?

  • @christianpaystrup4427
    @christianpaystrup4427 5 років тому

    As many problems as OotS had, it still has one of my favorite character arcs in the series with Jayfeather as he confronts a lot of stuff he hasn’t really been able to let go off, whether it was his faith, or his relationship with Leafpool being rekindled. If there’s one moment I point back to as one of my favorite scenes in the series, it is easily Jayfeather accepting Leafpool back into the Medicine Cat role.

  • @KaeserLooty
    @KaeserLooty 7 років тому

    great video, I really liked omeon of the stars and I know its flaws, but talk about it show how much we care about those books
    can't wait for nex part

  • @mara-ralucadorobantu6849
    @mara-ralucadorobantu6849 6 років тому +5

    Dovewing's power:
    changhing eye colour (duh)

  • @suziebelle4113
    @suziebelle4113 6 років тому

    I can't believe no one made fanart of Jayfeathers vision scene (forgot which book it was from) yet!
    Seriously though. Dark shadows flooding the camp, warriors being consumed no matter where the run, Ivypaws eyes being a liquidy black? That would be some great horror art!