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Star Wars Ships | HYENA-class BOMBER | Clone Wars CIS Ships
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2019
- The CIS ships and vehicles come in all kinds of shapes and sizes, but the Hyena-class Bomber was one of the most powerful Clone Wars era ships. See how the Hyena bomber compared to the Vulture droid, and other Star Wars ships like the Y-Wing and TIE Bomber. Also learn the history how this was used against Republic ships during the Clone Wars.
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So they were fast, had a decent payload, were cheap, could communicate effectively between command and each other, could be loaded without standardized equipment, had a variety of 'landed' stages, could articulate their 'head', and possibly had an AI that could determine targets and execute even while damaged. Only things it doesn't have are shields or a rotating turret.
The more you learn about the CIS war machine, the more it feels like they were capable of carving through the republic like butter.
wolfleader17 they probably would have if Palpatine hadn't rigged the whole war.
You beat me to it. If the war had proceeded without the intervention of the Sith, the CIS would have decimated the Republic.
So, what you're saying is that Palpatine is the good guy?
Since battlefront 2 is canon they have some form of shield. In game it’s called an electronic countermeasure. It acts as a shield I believe.
@@JimmyDean59 which one 2017 or 2005
God I love the CIS from their Army to their Fleet. They had a military might that was unparalleled, the sole reason why they did'nt wipe out the Republic was because Sidious purpousley held them back.
That and Jedi are also pretty op at times!
CIS FOREVER!
Honestly if the CIS wasnt led by Sidious and didnt commit atrocities, it would've been more sound than the republic.
Lobstie I think the Separatist Parliament shows that it’s much better than republic, because they are a Citizen Government whole the Separatist Council handles the Military.
@@apolloknight9521 I like the military aspect especially, because instead of using clones or enlisted folks to wage wars, they used droids. Unthinking, unknowing droids. There may be areas in which humans would be superior, such as in command roles, but as ground forces droids are far better ethics wise.
Lobstie agreed, the reason they use Droids is because it doesn’t affect their war fatigue, I think Generation Tech made a video essay on why the Separatist would have won the war without Palpatine’s meddling
CIS Forever!
Having seen the B1 firefighting brigade in action, I wouldn't be too confident in their ability to load bombs...........
CocaCola4blood,
Oh the hurdles the CIS jumps through...
ROFL
Lol
Implying you had confidence in their ability to do ANYTHING?
@@weldonwin I always have confidence in my battle droids from b1s to the bx and every other
The CIS is my favorite faction. I'm loving this week!
Same! To me the CIS are the good guys!
I think the cis is my favorite faction too
I accuse you of high treason to the grand army of the republic
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
@@rocky_25 not now
I think Hyenas and Vultures, much like R series astromechs, both have the capability to develop full on sentience. It really comes down to how often they have their programming reset back to factory defaults (memwipe) by the ones making use of them.
While we don't have evidence of it among droid starfighters, it IS seen in the Submarine droids that were deployed to the battle of Mon Calamari, where a surviving group of subfighters, which were themselves based on the Vulture Droids, went into the deep ocean and formed a colony of their own, actually forming an alliance with the Quarrens, hunting deep sea monsters in return for repairs and ammunition. Given this behavior, it is fully possible that a flock of Vulture or Hyena droids could form a similar colony, assuming they could find a suitable source of fuel
I wonder why the CIS didn’t give the B1 Droids these types of Programming?
@@apolloknight9521 Because the B1's were cheap garbage that had costs and corners cut at every turn. The Vulture and Hyena droids were designed and built by religious fanatics who wanted to do the very best job the could as an act of worship. The B1 was designed and built according to the specification of aliens who would make Roger Corman blush
weldonwin I think the CIS would have won if the people who made them would upgrade their software over time
@@apolloknight9521 That's assuming there isn't a literal evil space wizard pulling strings from high above to make sure the CIS doesn't win
0:40
I think that bombers were needed to collect debts from those who could fight back. Such as multiple crime syndicates, or corporations with private armies.
Besides, I guess the idea of offices and factories being leveled by bombers... encouraged the debtors not only to pay, but to pay on time
Or they could just do what the Empire did with their bombers and drop some propaganda
The early rebel groups should’ve used hyena bombers with 2 light laser cannons and 2 light ion cannons. They could’ve used these to attack the Empire’s larger warships or attacking convoys.
Also they're drones so you could go ship to ship with tie fighters
Rory O'Brien I wouldn’t sent them against TIE fighters because ties are faster and more maneuverable. The modified hyena would be good against ships without a dedicated point defense system like the ISD or against targets that are too dangerous for organic pilots.
Remember most were disabled and then scrapped once Order 66 was executed.
Hussain C True but they could’ve been salvaged or they could’ve been manufactured in secret facilities. They were cheaper and their designs weren’t a secret.
@@reginaldtyroneshort You'd need somewhere to launch them from, and the rebellion aren't big on capital-ships
“The primary use of this droid is violate the Geneva convention”
-Dooku to the CIS supporters
Before it even existed
@@luigimrlgaming9484 so you're saying the SW universe was in the past and in the end most species were wiped out, with a single pod landed on some planet on the far edge of the Galaxy to start the human race again...... wait.
The SW universe could still live
After all it’s “in a galaxy far far away”
OOM starfighter command droid: But sir, where's Genev- *SMASH!!!*
Dooku: Grievous, those specialist droids are expensive! This is your 100th this week, and it's coming out of your paycheck!
Grievous: My what?
This was the good Version of the Tie-Bomber.
The Tri-Fighter is the best Interceptor for a larger Navy. 💜💜💜
Tri Fighter squad
ye
Tri fighters with vultures would be an amazing matchup because vultures are 1/3 the cost of a tie but just as good add in the tri fighters to attack the flanks of a tie and it would be nearly unstoppable
I wonder if the cis ever used mine wipes and restraining bolts on their droids because if you don't they begin to grow a personality like mr bones
All the B1s grow some sort of personality over time. It's a side effect of the "software instability" caused by their AI running on insufficient hardware (originally they were designed to be remotelly controlled by a central AI but, after Naboo, they were all converted to autonomous beings like the OOMs without having the same hardware to support that).
@@qdaniele97 which is silly logic, because with insufficient hardware, there shouldn't be enough processing power or memory to develop and maintain a "personality."
Unless it's about quirks of responding to similar situations in the exact same way time after time, because they don't have the power to keep computing new reactions based on experience and situation specific information.
@@adamofblastworks1517
My guess is that in the star wars universe, it's relatively easy to make a droid that is intelligent and self aware, however, it becomes trickier to moderate this type of freedom in order to keep them following orders. That's why I think it would be a bit hardware intensive to run both their sentient AI, and another program that would dilute any unwanted characteristics that would result in things like talking back, being a smart ass and sarcasm.
To avoid running a moderating program, they may simply have chosen to not have one. Instead. It's entirely possible that protocol was to do a memory wipe often, but it could be that resetting the droids to factory settings was very tine intensive, so commanders never really did it.
Hence, you end up with droids that have a bit too much freedom, but otherwise do the bare minimum of what needs to be done.
@@adamofblastworks1517 B1s do actually learn from experiences and each B1 does respond differently to a scenario depending on experience. You forget that the CIS heavily reused old B1 AIs that were destroyed in battle. B1s basically respawn everytime they die and because of this they're capable of building a rudimentary personality and have slight improvements to combat ability thanks to this experience. This is especially important for OOM droids that were smarter and had a much more complex AI, as experience would've made them deadlier and more effective as field officers.
There is an advantage to allowing AI to develop a personality.
They couldn't. Theirs too many droids to midwipe
I really love this channel. I mean your like an audio book for Star Wars but with personality.
Please continue this channel. Its one of my fav content on UA-cam and a fine addition to my collection. Keep doing what you do.
May the Force be with this one.
thanks man that was a great compliment, we'll keep em coming. Nice grevious joke too lol
A generosity you not often see from the great General Grievous
He's just trying to get you to join the CIS
Wait
@@hondoohnakaproductions well who said I wouldnt
i do need a grenade launcher for self defense
dont ask
(i mean in all seriousness you can get those beanbag/baton rounds for a grenade launcher if you really wanted to)
oh shit it had a heart for a second and now it's gone
@@GenMaj_Knight curse the sudden but inevitable betrayal?
He got count dooku'd
plus to defend your other guns if someone tries to take them.
I consider a tank a feasible personal defense option. And some consider a grenade launcher too much?
1:53 The only time a systems of equation is useful... counting star wars ships
They actually are hyenas in Star Wars. I don’t remember the issue but in a comic, Vader is task with killing some lazy officers on a savanna planet. At some point he attacked by the pack, but kills their leader and he lets them kill and eat lazy officers.
I thought he crash landed there after the destruction of the Death Star, and he let the hyenas kill the officers, because they were lazy and never went out to assist him, no less even notice that he even crash landed, until he walked in the front door.
@@adamofblastworks1517 something like that, I read a while back. :)
But you can’t forget that CIS ships didn’t have to have life support systems and extra port system for an AI droid assistant
I would have to say that their biggest advantage would be their rapid deployment capability. The Bomber and pilot are one in the same. There is no delay time as they don't have to wait for pilots and it increases the operational range of any carriers as they don't need to accommodate said pilots.
I do remember from book somewhere, where they have hung from hanger ceilings they were being re-armed and then went up to the ceiling to make room for pair of tridroid flights, we're were then attached and hung from a hanging conveyor that went outside the hanger to storage. They have feet grips, but they're not the hydrolic power houses like on vultures, designed to open light craft hulls and find vitals.
I love the subtle nod to real life arms restrictions that make no sense. Japan for example is not allowed to build aircraft carriers under the post war constitution. So they literally stuck one extra Phalanx gun on the front of their Hyuga and Izumo-class carriers and called them "multi-purpose destroyers".
I would love to have a character who used a modified Hyena Bomber as a spaceship.
Just remove or shrink the Droid brain, and you could probably fit someone in there.
Why are you asking about droid sentience? Are you considering eating them like Generation Tech eats Ewoks?
one thing the Vulture Droids, Tri-Fighters and Hyenas have in common which is a huge advantage over Republic starfighters:
They dont have to slow themselfes down to avoid G forces knocking out the Pilot, cause there is no pilot
Technically there were pilots, however, the pilots weren’t biological.
I love the sounds these things make, they’re so cool.
At least these are less annoying than the hyena in The Lion King.
Let’s all take a minute to appreciate the clone pilot at 2:02 who instead of continuing to try and get away said hey...let’s do this instead and knocked out some droids...good job dude.
This reminds me of the blits use by the Germans in wwll
Blitz or blitzkrieg
if these had shield's, they'd be nearly perfect
And a hyperdrive would be great
@@peterkitching4454 they dont need hyperdrive , they just yolo on top of the space ship and start attack when needed
@@arnoldshmitt4969 I agree, they could use Ion and heavy laser turret's added to them for more capital ship killing destruction with a redesigned configuration for symmetry to somehow make it less wide making it even more effective
that's what I'd do
@@LoneWolf20213 but that will increase cost and attack on capital ships will be done by hyena bomber anyway
Droid Gunship: By your command.
Cylons: Hey, that's my thing.
Did anyone else notice the CIS Gozanti cruiser at 4:06 ??? That’s pretty awesome
“Evil robotic laughing sounds”
Have you covered the Scarab Bomber yet? In legends it was the previous bomber for the trade federation but im curious if it was replaced by the hyena or just existed in fewer numbers?
6:13 That gunship was a gigachad, sending one last FU to the walking plot armor.
We need a workplace comedy series about all the different vehicles in the CIS and how they look down upon the useless B1s
I don't know why it bugged me so much, but the guy in the article likely wouldn't actually be launching grenades from the launcher he's carrying. It's probably bean bags, pepper spray, or baton rounds, all of which (minus the pepper spray) would actually probably be a great means of non-lethal home defense. Mainly because most people don't want to get up after getting hit with a 37mm piece of rubber, traveling at about 230 fps, and hitting with somewhere in the ballpark of ~300 Joules.
(I know these numbers are rough, if you want to correct me, please do. I'm using British 37mm baton rounds as my example.)
CIS FOREVER
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ROGER ROGER
It's a tie bomber, but 10,000,000,000 times better.
I also love how they talk to each other
Pause at 6:30. it looks like that is actually a second head facing the underside with a large photoreceptor. It probably serves to better target bombing runs, similar to the camera bulbs on the General Atomics MQ-1 Predator used by the American Military.
I couldn't help but chuckle at the Battlestar: Galactica reference at 4:49
Also, this the best channel to play in the background when I'm gaming or just chilling. It's cool how deep into the lore you go. Keep it up. 👍
I think the hyenas and some of the other droid starships had an animal level of intelligence. To me that would be the level I would program them to. Loyal, unquestioning, and smart enough to pick up on things but not so much that it starts to get ideas. To me they seem to have roughly a dog level intelligence. Able to recognize threats and react, not so advanced as to be self aware, but with the determination to get inventive in order to accomplish goals.
The question I would ask is this: in the SW universe it seems as though the toasters can achieve sentience provided enough time and lack of memory wipes. I mean the droid subfighters turned into a school of heavily armed sentient robofish at least once. Given that, does literally every droid/machine tend towards sentience instead of entropy in this universe? Meanwhile gungans have existed for thousands of years and yet have the collective IQ of a single average sized bantha poo doo. At this point a light switch that’s completed a facebook quiz could single handedly destroy the gungans like sky net.
Now imagine if the droid separatists army was commanded by humans alongside them in the field instead of using tactical battledroids which can be ... questionable.
Wicked cool little detail, in one quick shot where you see the Hyena coming in to crash in the Hangar, you can early see a burning Y-Wing.
I've got two questions:
1) What's the name of the music in the background? Please
2) Can you put the link in desription?
Stop ignoring me!!
If you don't tell me, I'm not gonna stop asking this 😠
Shut the fuck up
Yo!! What up fellow Ezra!? Been years since I’ve seen somebody with the same name.
Love these bombers, Lego needs to make an updated version
Also, can't wait for these to come out for X-Wing Miniatures
Imagine if the rebels rebooted some of the hyena and vulture during the battle of scarif
I'd be more scared of a Hyena bomber than a TIE/sa. Those droids are merciless.
The word "overkill" springs to mind
Feel like the hyena bomber would have been good for the rebellion. It’s cheap and simple to manufacture, plus it’s big enough to have a cockpit attached should the rebels want to use this hull as a platform for different ship designs. Being a cheap design it’s probably modular too, so easy modifications.
All those vechicle armaments make me go *Y E S*
Crazy!
Btw, plz cover the yuhzang Vong invasion...
yeah we'll work em in
I just love all of the droids in the droid army 💜
Hyena Bomber is just a badass fucking name, i loved it
Re: Using a grenade launcher for self defense.
Whats the issue?
You'd think later they could of modified the lower ordnance pod to hold a shield generator and extra fuel, would of been awesome to have a wing of these having your back as a smuggler!
Never made the connection about hyena and vultures until you said it in the end of this video.👍🏼
A.I is a powerful tool, also a powerful weapon. If some personality is in their somewhere and it is honourable to the CIS, then I believe that it would enjoy finishing its mission
REDACTED of the S.C.P milita that's why fighting a highly skilled droid with sentience is scary af !
BlackShogun 27 right?
Dude by the way thanks for the comment awesome you're completely the best Star Wars UA-camr ever not many people go so in depth about Cis equipment and I am so happy you are doing this keep it up bro
thanks man I'll keep em coming!
Appreciate the professional visual displays, really makes your videos quality content.
Was just gonna drink this jawa juice myself, but OG Watt needs it more. (Pours whole bottle out for watt the OG)
Now you need to cover the Trade Federation/CIS droid bombers from Legends...
Yes! Please!!
Great vid MetaNerdz! The Hyena looks very interesting.
Thx this video helped my sanity cuz im a huge starwars fan and clone wars era is my favorite part so when I watch clone wars i was like
bruh u tellin me u have a giant carrier and all u can launch is 6-10 fighters when the septetist launch hundreds I knew that the sepretists had manufacturing speed and numbers on their side but now I know that it was easier to build and buy the hyenas and vultures so they had like 10x as many as the republic had
The fact that these things can talk, is terrifying to me.
Just thinking of the tactics. Vith Vultures running top cover and Tri Fighters maintaining air superiority, a squadron of Hyenas runs defense suppression on Republic positions, allowing for HMPs to drop a few squads of BX Commando Droids behind enemy lines while providing close air support. All this after the initial orbital strike.
One of my favorite bombers.
8:00
I'm going to have to call you out on this. Hyenas are not scavengers, they are apex predators alongside lions.
Often, they will kill their own food and lions will steal it from them.
Lions are lazy.
CIS fighters are soooooo underated!
I like to imagine a Vulture droid would ride a flying Hyena droid like that one pair of seaguls
Please make video of Maxima-A Heavy Cruiser
Wow, Vulture droids cost a third of a standard TIE fighter (60,000), and Hyena droids were nearly 7 times cheaper than TIE bombers (150,000). And the Empire wanted quantity over quality?!
A Venator filled with these things would overwhelm an ISD, and the Rebel Fleet would've had a way easier time if they reactivated any old droid star-fighter factories.
Imagine an ISD crew attacking a few Rebel ships thinking they have an easy victory until they get swarmed by over 400 droid fighters & bombers on top of a few squadrons of X-Wings & Y-Wings.
>Implying I don't need a grenade launcher for self defense
First of all, SHALL
I mean, you could, but I would advise you obliterate your enemy *BEFORE* they entered your home.
Also, a grenade launcher would be very useful for the ongoing riots.
Hyena bombers didn't have any dedicated "defensive" armament like most bombers (except Imperial, they believed (rightfully) they'd have air superiority, and not need it, and it would add weight, and cost). Except, like their heads, they were capable of lifting their weapons pod (above tge port ordinance pod) off the main manifold, and turning them to the rear with a 380° arc of rotation (190° to each side). They are also some of the most agile bombers in the starwars universe. Perhaps not beating the Y-wing for interstellar and payload capabilities, but in the battle doctrines and ground combat environments of the clone wars, the much more dog fight and close in requirements made them excellent. For targets simply to big or tough for a droid gunship... Just send a wing of hyenas and carpet bomb it. It doesn't matter if it's in a canyon, they'll maneuver perfectly fine.
jolie travaille très instructif !!!
2:00 - 2:06 Coolest scene in the video in my mind.
I know that some units in Empire at War used Hyena bombers
I just want to point out that while in Legends the cost was only 23,000 credits, in canon it’s 120,000. So its definitely still a beast, but was only 7,000 credits less than the canon cost of a republic y wing
6:34 Actually. The hyena that was ordered to suicide asked the tactical droid if he had wrongfully ordered him to the coarse or not. The tactical droid replied that he had to go die in the hangar.
The quality of these videos has SKYROCKETED since your first uploads, it's always been good but now it's some next level stuff!
All fun and games until the sky starts laughing at your joke
In a game battle for naboo a similar bomber was used by trade federation, like a predecessor to hyena bomber.
I don't know why but I love the hyena bomber it is just the look and sound it is like a stuka for ww2 fast and deadly
To be honest I think a fully atommuse droid battel ship. With no condors for a jedi to use. Structurally independent armored wepon pods with Massive pay loads of 8900 proton torpedoes. Then long range targeting systems to fier 98,000 interplanetary balistic missles. Internal weponry pods protect weponry pods. Then 89 points defense laser/ 78 blaster guns. For close to medium range fier power. All independently powered, and independent targeted by integral control, and run by integral power souces, and integeral droid gunners brain's tied into several droid control computer's, and nava computer, and combat computers put through out the ships hull. In acessable to jedi bombing runs due to thick armor, and heavy-duty sheild. Finnaly two glowing sensor eyes, and radar, sonar, eyes. That have super light emiting diods which glow evilly. This glow shows the ship is alive. Possibly a vioce on the radio in basic, and droid speach, maybe other languages. And interior audio voice. That speaks to those beings in the ten officer sweets which have lifesaport 6 months consumables a gym, pool, comunal garden. Each sweet has integrated droid sevents. That treat the gest like kings.
Put simply death has come be very afraid!
This makes far more sense than a army of B1's.
I have headache from your english.
0:41 Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended.
In 1 episode every time a vulture droid was hit by a capital ship's turbolasers it would fly straight into the capital ship
The republic should have made a light bomber!?
Great video 👍☯️👍
I heard one of these "laugh" as it bombed the clones in front of me, crazy droids...
loser
One of the best CIS ships!
It would be very easy for the bomber's program to include procedures for a kamikaze-type attack if critical systems have been damaged making completion of the original mission unlikely. In the case of the HMP, I think it is likely that the targeting and fire-control subsystems remained intact and at least partially functional despite the clear destruction of propulsion and other subsystems leading to the crash. Programming for failure is actually a real-life challenge for autonomous systems; for instance, self-driving cars need to be programmed with fail-safe procedures to control how the car fails if sensors are compromised. Another case is that if a crash is inevitable, an autonomous vehicle may need to choose between crashing into a barrier and killing its passenger and hitting a pedestrian that runs out in front of the car, which can be programmed in. Programming to choose to steer into a target would not too different. No self-awareness necessary.
I love your channel! Please consider doing a video on the Gallofree GR-75 Medium Transport? for one of the franchise's most famous ships, it's basic stats are easy to find, but anything about it's interior or crew area is really hard to find!
I think that the droid starfighters are all sentient and aware, they just don't get enough screen time to show it. It's probably a similar thing to the Manta droids, even though the Mantas aren't canon anymore. There's probably a swarm of Vultures, Hyenas, and/or Tri-fighters sitting around the galaxy, causing trouble.
Literally the Republic would have lost without a question in a legitimate war that wasn't doomed to fail.
I don't know why, but this sound they make when they engage to mace Windu, it sounds a bit like a German StuKa/ JU87 R-Series Typ.
The Lego set of this from 2009 was pretty cool.
My god these visuals are excellent
just fyi (non american). To my knowledge an m203 launcher can be used for non lethal, less than lethal and very much lethal. It can house pellets, slugs and ultimately explosives.
So impractical as it is, i can see it being used as a shotgun of sorts.
Head Canon- Hyena bombers moan every time ordnance is inserted.
Trained Clone Soldier: Takes a shot from an E-5 *dies. Ahsoka, a teenaged girl: takes a medium cannon bolt ( highly charged plasma round) into unarmoured shoulder *gasp.
She is a sentient superweapon with tutaminis etc.
Life support, shields, hyperdrives, and astromech droids ain't cheap...
Ewoks are a unit of measurement... I like it
Think you can do a vid about Lushros Dofine?
7:32 The idea I have is that it's translated and when they say hyena it's their most similar creature to a hyena