E-flite - Viper V3 - 70mm - 4X Maiden Flights
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Just picked one up, watched this video to get an idea of what to expect out of the box. You covered it perfectly.
Hey Brian you and Megan are the best out there!! You guys rock!
Thanks so much!!!
Keep doing what your doing……..your videos are the best out there……….UA-cam doesn’t know what they are talking about……..you are teaching people how to get into a great hobby…….DON’T CHANGE ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!
Thank you, and we will try. It's crazy when UA-cam tries to control EVERYTHING, like they know best, and it's very annoying since our audience is very vocal about wanting long format, but UA-cam runs the show...so we'll have to make some level of accommodation...maybe some time-lapse RC car builds and minor stuff like that, but we do long format, and that's what our audience wants...so we don't plan to cut it for UA-cam's sake.
Dude, if there is one thing I can say it's that I LOVE the articulation and thoroughness. I preach that there is no such thing as over communication and your channel just proves that. I often find myself in situations where "less technical" folks say "hey, insert some grand idea" and then i RAIN on their parade with the technical challenges and dude, dont tell me you are not that same guy! This channel effing rules!!!! haha
Cheers
Thanks! Very glad you GET me...some people find it annoying, but I find it NECESSARY ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC haha, Agreed! About to maiden my first park flying since flying edf’s 10 years ago. Tolly wish I could find a phase 3 Ef-16. It’s not fair that jet has disappeared!!
I just watched the HH ad video for this beauty. But, you don't really know enough about an rc plane until BPRC shows her what she looks like without makeup 👍
Awesome demonstration Bryan. I’m quite impressed with your superior orientation ability with the trees, that’s an invaluable skill to have!!!
Easily the best rc channel on youtube!
Thanks!!!!
i wonder if the neighbors ever hear you yell pilot fatigue lol love it
Is pilot fatigue just his name for thrust reverse? I’m always confused by this
I'm pretty sure the permanent residents at the graveyard next door can hear him 😊👍
Love watching you guys your real to the hobby, good & bad, sorry buddy for the loss" we have all been there. its part of the hobby
Very good Demonstration
Thanks!!!
Been watching for years Brian , and will continue to do so . Great content and fun . Also awesome camera crew, i can't get my wife to even watch me fly.
Thanks so much! Glad you're still here with us!!! Sorry to hear your wife isn't into RC. It's such an important part of my life, I have a hard time imagining life without my wife in the middle of this whole RC mess with me. That being said, there's some advantages to being separate for this time, if you have some other friends you can enjoy it with, and maybe she has her "thing"...but who knows. Just glad we've got you here with us!
One of my favorites! It will tip stall if your too slow in the corners.
As a full scale pilot, I laugh out loud every time I heard an r c pilot say the phrase "tip stall."
@@nattybumpo7156how do you know a “full scale” pilot is in the comments? He will tell you
@@esnyder77😂
I love my FMS 15th Anniversary Viper 70 but I'll tell you a few full throttle dives down across the runway into a half cuban 8 will let you know how fast it is in a real hurry! Your 100% correct on the Grey/Blue color scheme being a bit harder to see in the sky... I may end up picking up the E-flite Viper 70 just because the white/orange I'm sure is much easier to see and track in the sky!
Oh yeah I’m definitely going to get one of those soon as I graduate up from my beginner planes 😝
I like this livery much better than the FMS variant
Man that thing is SWEEEET Nice flying Brian 👍🏻✌🏻
Thanks!
Same with Habu . Added an afterburner kit . Little extra weight in rear
That would be a good way to do it too!
great flying brother best videos on the tube
Whoa! Squishies!! Nice 😊
Keenly looking forward to F7F beauty review.
;) Coming soon!
amazing work 😊
I feel like at this point we should rally for a standing TFR over BP’s house 2000AGL and below.
LOL - That would be nice, but not when I go to fly myself ;)
I like the FMS 15th Anniversary one better. I don’t use a SAFE/AS3X rx in it and it flys great. Doesn’t need stabilization at all. I cut out that foam all the way back to the wires and stuffed a 5000 50c 6s Spektrum in there and it rips. I do like that livery though.
❤️ love the videos and the channel… 👍🏻🇺🇸
You should bump it up to 8s Brian. You know just do two 4s batteries 🚀🚀🚀
Great plane
Sweet bird. Definitely not a beginner plane. Listen to Brian. Sound advice my friend. Hope to see you folks at Bigfoot. 👋😉
Another Viper, hum. Looks much improved over some. Almost forgot GO HAWKS
Another One? The Timber of Jets Continuous versions or incarnations of it
Thank goodness they made the Habu as a good entry point for EDFs. Hope they upgrade the STS with thrust reverse.
You need Habu SS it has reverse.
Oooh I kinda want this now haha 😅
It is very good!!!
Good price, BNF .
It's a keeper😊
Viper New is so from beatutiful spring softer tires ,
Looking good! Do you think the retracts for this would fit on the previous model?
Probably, but I haven't done it to be clear.
the best
Are the typical hairline fractures evident in the rear wheel wells that occurred in V1 70?
Yeh the new fms has them too. Poor design. I reinforced the area with wooden skewers and carbon rods.
It does mention in specs that they fixed cracking issue
Bummer I just got my Viper 70mm Prior to the V3. Oh well I guess I will have 2. Great upgrades all but missing Lights...
i am 12 and my first edf was a squall delta wing kit. flies smooth and expected after couple trims.
Nice but the camera can't keep up it seems, it just disappears in the background. Luckily you kept track :)
Yes! Please soft light tires on all planes! Why is this not standard?
I have 2 of the blue and white version 2 vipers.Have u ever thought of adding 2 to 3mm,s of foam to the elevators for more surface area for better flares? (landings). I'm not sure if it would work or not, Brian. I love my vipers, but no matter what, they are hard to land clean.
Excellent review, I've had my eye on a Viper for my next plane, I'm torn between the 90mm which will share my big 6S batteries with my other plane, or the new 70mm that I'll have to by another series of batteries for. The new upgrades are tipping the scales towards the 70mm. I've considered the 90mm version since I have several 6000mah 6S batteries for my Carbon Z Cessna that I'd like to share with a 6S jet. I know I can buy a lot of batteries for the price difference, I'm just trying to minimize the number of batteries i have to maintain. From your unboxing video, it seems like the battery compartment on this new 70mm Viper is tight even for a 3200 or 4000mah. 1. Watcha think about the 5000mah batteries? 2. Also, as far as the 3200 or 4000mah batteries, I'd prefer 100c batteries for jets, 50cc bare minimum. Will 100c 3200s or 4000s fit comfortably in the new 70mm Viper? 3. Any chance y'all are coming to the Nall in the Fall?
Brian, you always mention pilot fatigue with thrust reverse. What do you mean by this?
"Pilot Fatigue" is how we describe a setting where the Thrust Reverse is not only turned on, but also 100% Throttle is also mixed in, regardless of the Throttle Stick position. This is to avoid the sometimes overwhelming amount of items to remember during a landing, hence "pilot fatigue". This helps people mostly since it's somewhat unnatural to throw the throttle stick FORWARD while landing. We've explained this a few different times over the years. To be clear, we didn't make up the terminology "pilot fatigue", but rather just adapted it to our specific use for a quicker and easier way to communicate an otherwise elaborate, potentially wordy idea.
Hope this helps!
FMS YAK-130 is still a better all around 70mm
However, when it comes to The Vipers on my walls... Arrows 50mm Viper best overall value.. Viper 70mm great fun and of course Viper 90mm is an amazing beast, especially with the True Blue Afterburner ..
Great video buddy
Did you not get the 50mm Avanti?
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Still thinking the freewing Avanti V2 might be a better choice.
If MotionRC would work with us, we could weigh in, confirming your claims, or arguing against them. But since they won't, I have to assume they fear we'll be a bit too honest for their taste...but who knows?!? My personal experience with MotionRC was pretty good, right up to the point they started bad-mouthing us to their customers. Makes you wonder why they would do such a thing? It's not enough that they're too ignorant to realize we have the worlds best audience here on UA-cam, but they also need to undercut our character. Seems a bit defensive from an organization with an otherwise good reputation.
P.S. I've personally read the communications where this has happens, as I was copied in from one of their loyal, regular customers. It's pretty disgusting, and totally unprofessional. That being said, I think Wes does a nice job of stirring up interest in their offerings, and if HE wanted to work with us, we could surely work past any of this idiocy from the past, and from others at Motion.
Anyway, enough BS politics...This and to be fair, ANY Viper we've had has been great. The ONE Avanti we've had was also super, but it has more bad habits than the Viper, and it was not as well rounded. If you were to get an Avanti, I'd probably get the Futura first, anyway. All of these jets, in this class are really nice...
@@BrianPhillipsRCthat’s not the first time I’ve heard they had bad customer service. I’ve not personally flown the V2 but man I’ve seen it in person and that freewing V2 is very nice! I would still swap the esc for an avion and Spektrum RX
@@BrianPhillipsRCcouldn’t take it. Had to order it with your links and a 6s 3200 50c. Just an FYI. For some reason the link took me to HH but took me about 4 or 5 times of trying to get it to ho through HH kept saying there was technical difficulties on their end.
Did you get this one for the review or could you already order this one? In austria, its not available at the moment :(
Do u like this or the A-10 better?
I like flying the Viper better, but I LOVE having the A-10. The Viper is a more "everyday flier"
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Greetings Brian. I watched your reviews on the both the FMS and this version of the 70mm Viper. I asked Adam from AV8 this same thing. I am really curious which one you would purchase right now? I am ready to purchase, but a little torn on which one to get. The price is no issue - just want the best one. Thanks! Dale.
The EFlite version is better. More features, same or better price, if you're planning to use AS3X / SAFE, if you go with BNF.
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Thank you, Brian. I really appreciate your input!@@BrianPhillipsRC
What is better Is this Viper better than the first one is it handled like the 90? I'm looking to get one I start out with the Hubu 70mm RTF
Still a beast to land. Strangely the 90 is easier
90 has less wing load
Would the F-16 70mm be easier to fly than the viper in this video ?
@@FalconWing1813I had the 70 f16, flew amazing, but a viper looks easier.
I HAD the original viper and I still HAVE the f16 - the f16 is much easier to land high alpha and doesn't like to stall without warning like the 70mm viper@@FalconWing1813
Did you say this takes a 4s battery?
I will stick with 90mm, my 70 was the stallomatic. 😂Salute🤣
When is the 50mm top gun f18 being released ?
is this the same one as the FMS viper? just with eflite electronics ?
FMS makes the Viper for Eflite, but the Eflite Viper has soft tires, and comes in BNF, rather than PNP...so just think of it as different finish levels.
Good luck, great plane!
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Thanks!
How does it fly compared to the 80mm futura ?
Another great video!! Brian, have you been affected by Horizon Hobbies website and not crediting you for sales through your links? I've been hearing through a grapevine that a lot of RC channels are being affected and seeing their incomes cut in half in some cases.
Thanks!
As for "not getting credit" - we can't speak to that exactly, as it would be tough to do in a public setting - there are way too many sensitive details to share, in order to help paint a clear picture of what's happened. That being said, we love Horizon Hobby, and the products and technology that they bring to the RC community, but as you mentioned, we're getting hurt badly by the issues with their website and/or ERP update, which is the only way to explain our well-over-half drop in performance. This has been very difficult for us and our family, but not near as difficult as it will be for HH.
The good news, and we have it on good authority, many of these issues are worked out, or are in the process of being worked out right now. We trust, based on our past experience with HH, that this too will be quickly forgotten, and they will make it right to us, somehow...we hope.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks, Brian. No need for details. I understand. Contracts and such.
I have been visiting and re-visiting everyone's channels, commenting and liking to help bring the numbers up on the channels. It's the least I can do to help!!!! My prayers go out to you and your family! I hope this gets better sooner than later. I love your content!!
SQUISHY!WITH SPRINGS!
would this work with the nx6
Will there be boat's for the pond
70mm viper V3 you say ? What was the V2 then ?
There was a V1 with AR636, the V2 with AR631, then V3 with upgraded motor, gear, and tires, if I'm not mistaken.
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Seems to me to br refreshingly rugged. Got forward thrust in spades but anyone else feel a little underwhelmed by Viper's reverse thrust/
Love the way this looks.. I had been looking at the FMS 15th but prefer this livery scheme. Question now is 70mm or 90mm...
90mm way better than 70mm
@leejones8804 to be honest I'm leaning that way despite the higher cost
After 2 years, my biggest challenge remains orientation , especially since having to get new glasses with progressive lenses. Getting old sucks (54).
I've had bad vision for a large majority of my life, so I get it. If you can fly from the same spots, use every detail to help reinforce your depth perception, shadows are a great way to do it, if you can figure out what direction the sun would cast the shadow, then orient your plane in such a way as to see the shadow. This can be done with fast, or slow planes, but good idea to try this with something slow, and very easy for you to handle. When you're confident with this skill, you can start using it to help with other planes. I also try to keep an eye out ahead of where the plane is, especially with direction changes. This can be super tough, but it's necessary so you can predict challenges coming around the next turn. This might be all very obvious, and something you mastered many years ago, but I find these things to help somewhat. If you aren't doing these things, give them a shot. Good luck, and keep at it. Depth perception is a huge part of RC, and to be honest, there are people with ONE eye who can do it. This is a brain learned skill, just like muscle memory, so I trust with lots of practice, you can at least improve your circumstances as your eyes get a bit worse with age.
One other tip, make sure you're having your eyes checked for cataracts. They will make you go blind, and you may not notice the change, since it's so subtle, over time.
@BrianPhillipsRC thanks, I appreciate the time you took on your reply. I will apply your tips. One thing I use from my other hobbies, pews, is I use my laser rangefinder to mark distances at the field. I lost my 70mm Thunderbird on landing approach because I plowed it into the treeline over 300 yards from the field. 🤣
Ok a question that has nothing to do with the Viper. How does your videographer do what she does so well? I've tried video-ing with my telephone; I can't see the screen so I try and imagine where the screen is pointing. So far that has not worked. I have a video camera, with a little tilt screen. Same thing in bright outdoor light I can't see anything on the screen.
In the old days video and film cameras had viewfinders you put to your eye and that cut out the bright light. Those view finders are no more. I am thinking maybe a go pro on a head band?
Or what might work is a video camera that puts out an image to a vr headset!!! Have not heard of one of those yet, but I think tha would work
She is just THAT GOOD!!! Seriously, she doesn't even look at the screen, she looks THROUGH (past) it. We use Cell Phones to film all our content. So when you're watching, aim at the plane, locked arms, then watch, and keep arms where you're supposed to be looking...like you're running a turret gun.
Video and film cameras are still made with viewfinders.
Brian how do you reckon this compares to the FMS Viper?
It's better for 6 reasons...
1) Better ESC (more current handling @ 85 Amps)
2) SOFT TIRES!!!
3) SMART
4) Thrust Reverse
5) BNF vs PNP
6) Colors are easier to see
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Thank you sir! @@BrianPhillipsRC
The squishies have nothing to do with bad reverse performance, I’d say. Maybe a tiny bit. The Habu 50 is also a good example how inefficient reverse thrust can be. Hardly has any effect at all. The point is that the blades are optimized for max thrust forward. Some planes seem to have a way better performance, even when run backwards. Probably the larger ones that can afford the trade offs as they still have tons of thrust. The V 90 seems pretty efficient on thrust reverse.
I love the looks of the V70 and agree with you on pretty much all you said, but the reverse thrust is rather disappointing. Screams like hell but very little effect.
Oh and by the way: never add a LED without resistor. They will blow instantly as they can only take 20mA max and low current LEDs even less, like 3mA or so. No servo would work, with this little bit of current.
Remember, Brian, that the Wingnuttech LED controller takes the current for all the LEDs on the Night Radian from one channel of the receiver. So, yes there is a current limit, but it was some 2 or 3 Amps. If you have used a LED without resistor and it didn’t blew, it was probably one with integrated dropping resistor.
Thanks for all the info you provide in your videos, I hope that I can also give you some in return this way 😊. Love your channel - very entertaining.
Thrust reverse is almost a gimmick that is also not very good for motor. It's inefficient since when reversed its just blowing into much wider area than normal (which pushes air into a pipe) so its creating way less presure.
@@ernestostrman5147 I've seen a V90 re-review lately from TwoBros and there, the thrust reverse was very efficient. And also FGFRC did have a couple of jets that were also accelerating pretty impressively from stillstand on going backwards. The "truth" is probably somewhere in between. A mix of air flow and blade design and also motor power.
For the smaller birds like the Habu 50 and also the V70, I agree that this is indeed more of a gimmick. Li'l Habu won't move backwards as soon as it "hits" a grain of sand. 😆 Ridiculous.
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Viper 70 is so good. The new one with oleos are so obvious. Thx Eflite. Still super ugly plane which is why mine gets painted bright colors. Brian, please push this thing. You are also flying for experienced pilots here on yt and I would love to see you push this thing to its limits. Practice some inverted stuff or just get close to the eagle killing zone trees. I need to feel that carnage is about to happen please!!!!
LOL - okay, so ALMOST kill it ;) - I already have a VIPER KILLING ZONE!!!!!!! I don't need to have a size distinction added - LOL
What happened to the electricity lines that once crossed your flying area?
All our likes He was able to bury them a few Videos back. 😁.
@@jimnardone32 Perfect! By the way: Great videos! I'm not an active rc pilot anymore, but enjoy your videos. You and your family are awesome 😃👍
Bought the ViperThe new one. , With generasjon 2 Spektrum battery 6 cell 3200 and 4000 mAh , This plain Schall fly moer than 120 mils+ faster than ever,, i se you do Fms.. this has les amp 85 than rhe new one tell me ? it has 80 amp and not the a\same motor..?
Hello Brain
Do you think the viper90 get a update tho?? I order the viper90 3months ago and still waithing
Update to what exactly? It has everything already.
@memcrew1 new colors sheme? New economical motor? New bigger tires? New esc? New wing plug?
I don't now either, just asking 😃
@@feelgooddany 🤔 it doesn’t need any of those because it has them already outside of a new paint scheme.
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In the Chichén you showed that you should use 2 pcs 3s 3200 30c in parallell . Menas you got more flying time, but same Voltage 11,1v but in serial you got 3s+ 3s =22,2v.
What i liked by This video Clip you expl. serial 3s battery befor take of and you said Jucei Frute " Thats is a Hewing gum in Norway. Then you Said i love this plain with 2 pcs. BATTERY IN Paralell... " You mencioned Mignon" If they are Inside Your Wiper 70mm. and swich i over parallell. I do under stand you got srapes on the ving tips an the tail like your wife said to you .
is it just me or do other people mute his intros?
Not just you😂😂
Yea just you.
His intros are loud and annoying, just like me! So I understand why they are not for everyone 😂
Crybaby....lol jk
i love his intros lol everyone in this hobby in monotone af
Good but for 40€ more you can get Freewing L-39 80mm which is way better plane, more comparable to 90mm Viper.
its Klas a gain i would love to say to you .. its an F-f16 I i bye all you by ean i would love to have the new reverese have truste revers that you need to stop th aiaroplain or els i go in to the ens of the feels
Horizon re-hashing old stuff w/different paint schemes! They need a airplane encyclopedia so they can start making planes that are relevant, other than a timber! And where are my parts! Not your fault Brian ! Horizon is terrible in the service department, really SUCKS!
too much viper.... i dont know what's the best ??
old eflite viper 70 ? FMS Viper 70 ? new eflite Viper 70 ?
me i want that eflite continues the viper 90 and stops to the "out of stock" everywhere.....
FMS makes plane, difference is FMS has their electornics and HH puts their.
Great videos n build I'm a newbie n interested in my potential 1st purchase what's ur best advice. N F UA-cam's minions n violations of our freedoms of speech 🤞
Welcome. Here's what I suggest people consider...we have a list of "beginner planes" and this might get you in the right direction, but as with anything else in hobby realm, it's gonna largely depend on your personal preferences, so once you've had a chance to check out the list of our beginner planes, maybe pick one or two and dive in and watch a few of the videos about those, then I can try to help you sort through your questions. Hopefully we can get you in the right place for where you are right now.
www.brianphillipsrc.com/beginnerplanes
Good luck, and welcome!
Omfg… only if I would’ve known of this earlier… got myself the v2 like 2 weeks ago🥲