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@@BrianPhillipsRC Mother nature brought back two of my planes too. But prayer does help. One of my planes stayed in a tree for at least a week and went through at least two rain storms but came back with a few rough spots but still flying today. One is a Hobbyzone Champ the first ones the little 1s three ch. plane and the second is the UMX Radian.
Best Maiden flight series ever! I've got about 10 rc planes, warbirds, GA, etc. I've been put off of EDFs because it seems like the good ones require big 6s packs to fly right. This 64mm Viper might just be my intro to the EDF world. I'll be using your links, per usual. But, thanks for sharing this amazing, exciting, humbling, engineering- heavy and sometimes flacid experience with us. Special thanks to the Camera Crew and Mini BP for recovering the plane and finding tires in the creek 😊 Awesome video, guys! 👍
Hi Brian and Megan, there is a saying here in Spain that says: The pitcher went so far as to throw the fountain that it finally broke. If you fly near trees, it is normal to have mishaps. The rescue video was very entertaining, you are the best.✈
LOL - exactly! I definitely earned that unscheduled landing ;) So glad our video wasn't of me recovering this beauty in a snow storm this winter - LOL LOL LOL Cry - All's well that ends well!
e-flite needs to take the new freewing f22 70mm and make one with all the smart tec. Now that would be a cool bnf. leave a like on this comment if you agree 🛩
Yeh agreed. It's not hard to bring out an esc that reads battery voltage reading out as a percentage. Avian lites do it and it works with any branded lipos. Voltage, Amps, rpm etc. Just wish there was an Avian lite for 8s capable 120A esc then all my planes would have it instead of the Hobbywing 120A I'm using.
I can totally relate! I couldn't get to my plane. After a few days I couldn't see it in the tree, but I couldn't find in the ravine either. 12 days later, I saw it in the ravine. My friend had rope and I was able to repel down to the plane. Used my rope as a zipline to send down wing bags. I put the wings in the bag and he pulled them up using another rope. Same with the fuselage. Then I got to pull myself back up. I'm still rebuilding the plane and I also had to revive the battery! Interesting video. Thanks for the upload!
Awesome! Glad you got it back! I was more concerned about the "ornament" my neighbor would be looking at in a few short weeks of "fall" - boy-o-boy, we got lucky!!!
If you want, but still think the Habu is a SAFER bet, just FYI. This EDF is amazing, and would be okay for a newer EDF pilot, but she is FAST...so keep that in mind. Don't want to discourage you, but DO want you to find success. Success at the right time is always good for the psyche, but failure at the wrong time can lead to an early, unnecessary exit from this hobby we all enjoy so much! bprc.me/Habu bprc.me/Viper
It flies CRAZY fast and good - I just hope people love it as much as we did. I've honestly LOVED every viper we've ever done, from 50mm Arrows, to FMS's offerings, to now this the smallest of the HH offerings, 64mm, 70mm, 90mm - ALL best in class, and well worth any small premium in cost, compared to the PNP's the competitors are offering...but even they are really good!
I just want to warn again bringing up the voltage in a Lipo. When the voltage gets low, the internal resistance of the cell goes up exponentially compared to how far each cell goes below 3V. It’s a 4s Lipo so the minimum safe voltage is 4x3 or 12 volts. To get a reading of 4 volts means that each cell is a little above 1 volt. You can do what you did it and it might work but there is a hidden danger. Because the internal resistance of the cells will be permanently higher, you have a greater chance of microscopic stalagmites forming in the battery. These will grow and can eventually pierce a hole between the anode and cathode cause a route for electrons to flow freely through. Basically the battery shorts internally. This can cause a thermal runaway which will cause massive amount of heat and pressure until it blows. Like a nuclear reactor meltdown. The battery will also never perform as well as it did new and since this jet is already getting telemetry voltage warnings from just taking off, meaning this battery is being pushed to the limits out of the box, there could be a bad ending. I am not telling anyone how to use a product they paid for. I just want everyone to realize what the risks are with this and choose for themselves. In no way am I trying to bash Brian. I just want to inform everyone.
Thanks for the explanation, but I never got my battery to 4 VDC (nominal), so not sure where you got that from. I was into LVC, but that's at like 3.4 VDC by default on any given cell, remember, these are SMART packs, so we DO see each cell, as well as the nominal voltage (the total of the cells), and even if one was surging, or sagging, they will be actively corrected by the BMS in the SMART chip. FWIW, I would argue that 3VDC is not the "minimum safe voltage" although you can certainly hold you packs to that level of draw down. To be honest, I'd say, 3.3 VDC would be a healthy spot to stop, but again, even with ONE cell running low (sagging), the SMART chip is going to balance that cell asap. Either way, didn't take your comments as an sort of slight, but not sure where you came up with 4VDC.
I think it would have been awesome to see retracts. They would OWN the 64mm market, but they were trying to stay somewhat competitive. This plane already beats most other 64mm planes, based purely on specs, but it's still pretty pricey. I think the 70mm would be a perfect plane for most who want Retracts, and it's still AMAZING even today. I want to see a special retract system, like in earlier RC days where there's one or more big servos that drive the gear action...maybe a servoless retract that drives a pushrod, or some such thing...just something creative that makes them easier/cheaper/lighter, and would work in these smaller birds.
The Arrows 50mm Viper is also pretty nice. This one is WAY more feature packed, if it weren't immediately obvious, and the be fair, 50mm < 64mm < 70mm < 90mm ;) BUT, I like all the Vipers we've ever done. I want a UMX now ;) And What about a Carbon Z Viper 120mm ??!?!?! ;)
Brian I just knew when you was flying at the bottom of the that's when I thought he was going to land in a tree that wouldn't have surprised me I always say a RC airplane is always looking for a tree to Land in. That's just like you said that's part of owning a RC airplane. I thought it was a good video and keep on doing what you're doing you and camera crew. PS I thought your son done an excellent job building a nose for that jet
You are unique in flying, but with all the planes you have at home, I understand your skills with RC planes and flying. I expect you are a big seller of RC planes.
Thanks, I only wish I had more time to dedicate to flying these RC planes. We might only get to fly them 2-6 times on a GOOD experience, and sometimes what you see here, filmed, is 100% of the flights we've been able to enjoy. It's the double edged sward of trying to earn enough (with my day job + UA-cam) to keep afloat, while build this crazy aerodrome that we're working our tails off for, and to have it complete while I'm still young enough to enjoy it. I work with so many guys that just work and work and work (think maintenance guys at the plants where I serve for my day job) then they just up and die, have a life altering injury, heath slips, or they just age out of the possibility of flying FULL SCALE - I'm doing everything in my power to not end up in that situation. As a result, we're working VERY hard to expedite this process, not only to show it CAN be done by a "normal" person, not ultra rich, just a working class guy, but that it can be enjoyed in the prime of life. I know this is a big vision, and some won't "get it" but that's okay, this isn't for everyone, and most would have given up by now...I'm just very VERY hard headed ;) As for the RC planes - they are a branch of my love and appreciation for aviation...but not the whole tree. It is also something I love deeply, and I'm willing to make incredible sacrifices for, and allow family to help me make said investments and effort - lucky them, right - LOL ;) Hope this makes sense. It's the tip of the iceberg, but might help you understand my situation, if it weren't already clear.
Wow! That's the longest fishing pole I've ever seen!! That was stuck FAR higher than any airplane I've put in trees. Treed plenty of them over the years, but I've only lost one. I went back every day for 2 weeks waiting for the wind to knock it down, but I guess someone else found it before I did. I did manage to find that camera that was attached with velcro to the wing since it fell off on impact, so I have good video of the flight (and crash). I thought for sure that it would clear the tree tops on final approach..... 🤔 Now I just make sure there are no trees within a 1/4 mile of where I'm flying, or guaranteed, a tree WILL jump up and catch it! I've just got that kind of luck. Poor depth perception certainly doesn't help. 😂
LOL - yeah, and we made it longer, but never needed it, since mother nature kicked in and brought her down to the surface for us!!! We spent like 3 nights getting this one back, and then about 1 hour just spackeling it up, and my son made the nose cone, which worked pretty nice
Except the Viper was down farther than it looked...maybe 15-20 feet down from the top. I thought about that too, if the super-duper-stick-o-shame failed me, and while it did ultimately fail, we never tried the LONGEST rendition...mother nature beat us to the chase ;)
64mm edf aircraft can and do have retracts ..but I guess if they put them in it might effect the handlaunch option which is great - I cannot work out why e-flite decided to do another VIPER and at 64mm ? Man you need to train your trees better - here in the UK if a tree did that it would get a good old fashioned wooden spoon across its trunk ..LOL... Enjoyed the Video cheers
Are you getting the goofy 4-5 names randomly? That's happening on ours too, and it's a spam attack - report and block them ASAP! We see maybe 5-25 per week right now...
Hey Brian do you remember back in the day when you were Andrew s age, you would have been up that tree and shaking the branches like a chimpanzee to retrieve that plane 😂😂
Nice looking plane. Just like the small 50mm Habu this plane sucks the juice out of the battery which is to bad because an EDF should be able to take you pushing it to have fun.
I think it would be unnecessary, but if you want CROW, you could do that too, and get it down FASSSSSSSSST........but to avoid dragging the flaps on the ground you could also shut off the delay on the Flap setup, so it's easier to pull them back in....then you can change the speed of that channel in SERVO SETUP, but only on the way DOWN.
Wow, this is a must have for me. Thx to your advice Brian I stick, for the moment, to 4s batteries so this is the thing! >Thx again for you're great work, greetings to the camera crew. One q, at wich rate do you charge your batteriesAlso, what reciever is in this bird?
Hey @brianphillipsrc. So I am rejoining the hobby after about 15 years. I am considering the NX8+ 20 channel TX. My question to you is what would be the best receiver with a minimum of AS3x. I would like room to grow with a reciever selection as well as far as channel capacity. Thanks for your input and love y’all’s channel! Tell camera crew thank you as well!
I wouldn't even get an Rx until you pick a plane. If you want a plane as a RETURNING RC enthusiast, I'd highly suggest getting a BNF (Bind and Fly) like many of the Eflite offerings, from Horizon Hobby, which are some of the best ones you can get back into the hobby with. They will help you get your feet under you, then when you're flying again, like you used too, you can start sizing the receivers to the plane you pick. As a matter of fact, we share what Rx to use in each and every plane we do (aside from some of our really old content). This can be found my opening the Video Description, then right at the top, we share what Plane, Battery (or Batteries), Receiver (if necessary - if it's a PNP Plug and Fly, then we too would have needed a Receiver, but lots of these planes are BNF bind and fly or RTF ready to fly, so keep an eye out for that nomenclature.), and Transmitter (sounds like you already decided on the NX8+ - this is a good choice, and will do most all of what you need, unless you decide you can't live without SLIDERS, which are analog sliders behind the sticks on the back of the transmitter - I don't use them hardly EVER, fyi). I want you to know that most planes are going to be good on AR630 or AR631 which will get you AS3X+ and SAFE, if you want either of them, but if you have RETRACTS AND you want to setup a complex wing type, like FLAPPERONS/SPOILERONS, to accomplish CROW - something you rarely NEED, but might want to play with, then you might consider going with the AR8360T...this adds two more pluggable channels, but to be clear, there are more "virtual" channels up above the pluggable ones, so you can still impact mode changes, and this is why the newer Trasmitters with "+" or getting an older one and updating the Firmware to get the same 20 Channels has been such a game changer! Here's our generic list, but you want to ask for a particular PNF plane you're considering, and we can help, but we already have it listed in the Video Description for that plane, fwiw. We'd be happy to help you as you get your feet wet! Tx & Rx bprc.me/Tx bprc.me/iX20 bprc.me/iX14 bprc.me/DX8 bprc.me/DX6 bprc.me/DXS bprc.me/NX6 bprc.me/NX7e bprc.me/NX8 bprc.me/NX10 bprc.me/NX20 bprc.me/Rx With AS3X/SAFE...
Come on Brian.... you know what im going to say. You already have a 6s Avian in there. Get some 5s lipos in this thing and let he rip. Speak to CNHL and do some demos for their lipos. Amp pull is about 75A so your within the stock ESCs capabilities.
Yeah, this was 100% my fault, and re-watching the footage, I still laugh at myself. I THINK this was the tree that took a few others...and the recovery efforts were kinda fun too...YES, I did fix my Stick-O-Shame, if you were curious - the yellow part that snapped off.
I agree Brian. Viper is an amazing platform. I fly the HH70 and the HSD90. I love them both and would love a 64mm. But I also agree that landing gear on a Viper is almost oxymoronic except for landing. Come on HH. This was your chance. HK has retracts on a 64mm. Thx Brian and Megan.
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Beautiful jet man. Hey you guys think sweat bees were bothering, we got those lantern flies at our house in Pa and theres at least a dozen or more every tone we go out the front door all pver the front of our brick house. Its freaking ing disgusting.
@@xJae14x shame, that the flyfans l-39 is no 70mm. to me it seems the l-39 lacks seriously on speed . otherwise its such a cool plane. looks and sounds so good. and seems very stable.
@@martindelrio1891 I own the L-39 it’s great. Not the fastest option but a 64 on 6s it’s also no slouch. It’s tons of fun. Plenty of 70mm options, best for me is the new 70 F22. I’ve been waiting for one that size
@@xJae14x no question. its no slouch. but it would be awesome if it was a 70 and as fast as the freewing vulcan. but even if the l-39 was a 70, i doubt it would be as fast as the vulcan. the l-39 i think is the draggier airframe.
I think the Retracts would be nice too, but I guess there's just not enough capacity for that. The Flywing 64mm L-39 looks like it's closer to an 80mm airframe, so not sure why they made it a 64mm edf anyway. When they're big, they can squish more goodies in. The wings are pretty thin on the Viper, keep in mind, they're Outboard, whereas the L-39 are more inboard, like an F-16...so just kind not real-estate for the servoless retracts. I still think it'd be cool to have a proper NOSE gear, with servoless retract, then a pushrod, dual drive 30gram servo for the mains, or some such setup
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Holy cow! Way to go Camera Crew! You retrieved the Viper 64 without using any thousands of dollars of equipment! 😊 👍
She used Mother Nature - and kid - LOL ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Mother nature brought back two of my planes too. But prayer does help. One of my planes stayed in a tree for at least a week and went through at least two rain storms but came back with a few rough spots but still flying today. One is a Hobbyzone Champ the first ones the little 1s three ch. plane and the second is the UMX Radian.
Love the videos Brian! Appreciate the all the insight and hard work. Keep piloting and making great videos!
Best Maiden flight series ever! I've got about 10 rc planes, warbirds, GA, etc. I've been put off of EDFs because it seems like the good ones require big 6s packs to fly right.
This 64mm Viper might just be my intro to the EDF world.
I'll be using your links, per usual. But, thanks for sharing this amazing, exciting, humbling, engineering- heavy and sometimes flacid experience with us. Special thanks to the Camera Crew and Mini BP for recovering the plane and finding tires in the creek 😊
Awesome video, guys! 👍
Thanks Al!
Hi Brian and Megan, there is a saying here in Spain that says:
The pitcher went so far as to throw the fountain that it finally broke.
If you fly near trees, it is normal to have mishaps. The rescue video was very entertaining, you are the best.✈
LOL - exactly! I definitely earned that unscheduled landing ;) So glad our video wasn't of me recovering this beauty in a snow storm this winter - LOL LOL LOL Cry - All's well that ends well!
Nice flying MY MAN, freaking nice.
Great work Camera Crew! Finders - keepers. That makes the Viper your plane now Megan! lol ... great video again guys!
Beautiful plane an awesome flying Brian. Thanks for the review and great filming camera crew !
Thanks, and sorry to end it with a crash, well, I guess we did fly it after too ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Dang those long armed trees. :}
Definitely the best recovery video ...nice toys
We got lucky, and it was pretty fun trying too!
e-flite needs to take the new freewing f22 70mm and make one with all the smart tec. Now that would be a cool bnf. leave a like on this comment if you agree 🛩
Yeh agreed. It's not hard to bring out an esc that reads battery voltage reading out as a percentage. Avian lites do it and it works with any branded lipos. Voltage, Amps, rpm etc. Just wish there was an Avian lite for 8s capable 120A esc then all my planes would have it instead of the Hobbywing 120A I'm using.
I can totally relate! I couldn't get to my plane. After a few days I couldn't see it in the tree, but I couldn't find in the ravine either. 12 days later, I saw it in the ravine. My friend had rope and I was able to repel down to the plane. Used my rope as a zipline to send down wing bags. I put the wings in the bag and he pulled them up using another rope. Same with the fuselage. Then I got to pull myself back up. I'm still rebuilding the plane and I also had to revive the battery! Interesting video. Thanks for the upload!
Awesome! Glad you got it back! I was more concerned about the "ornament" my neighbor would be looking at in a few short weeks of "fall" - boy-o-boy, we got lucky!!!
Brian that’s gonna be my first jet. I love it.💛✈️
If you want, but still think the Habu is a SAFER bet, just FYI. This EDF is amazing, and would be okay for a newer EDF pilot, but she is FAST...so keep that in mind. Don't want to discourage you, but DO want you to find success. Success at the right time is always good for the psyche, but failure at the wrong time can lead to an early, unnecessary exit from this hobby we all enjoy so much!
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This is a very interesting plane recovery intend
It flies CRAZY fast and good - I just hope people love it as much as we did. I've honestly LOVED every viper we've ever done, from 50mm Arrows, to FMS's offerings, to now this the smallest of the HH offerings, 64mm, 70mm, 90mm - ALL best in class, and well worth any small premium in cost, compared to the PNP's the competitors are offering...but even they are really good!
I hate it when a tree jumps up and grabs my planes ! Brian that happens to me all the time ! Those dang trees ! ; }
You better believe it. How did I make that mistake - LOL - I WAS trying to get close...and I succeeded - LOL LOL LOL
Last time I needed my stick of shame I taped broom handles to the pool poles to keep it more rigid 😂
I just want to warn again bringing up the voltage in a Lipo. When the voltage gets low, the internal resistance of the cell goes up exponentially compared to how far each cell goes below 3V. It’s a 4s Lipo so the minimum safe voltage is 4x3 or 12 volts. To get a reading of 4 volts means that each cell is a little above 1 volt. You can do what you did it and it might work but there is a hidden danger.
Because the internal resistance of the cells will be permanently higher, you have a greater chance of microscopic stalagmites forming in the battery. These will grow and can eventually pierce a hole between the anode and cathode cause a route for electrons to flow freely through. Basically the battery shorts internally. This can cause a thermal runaway which will cause massive amount of heat and pressure until it blows. Like a nuclear reactor meltdown. The battery will also never perform as well as it did new and since this jet is already getting telemetry voltage warnings from just taking off, meaning this battery is being pushed to the limits out of the box, there could be a bad ending.
I am not telling anyone how to use a product they paid for. I just want everyone to realize what the risks are with this and choose for themselves. In no way am I trying to bash Brian. I just want to inform everyone.
Thanks for the explanation, but I never got my battery to 4 VDC (nominal), so not sure where you got that from. I was into LVC, but that's at like 3.4 VDC by default on any given cell, remember, these are SMART packs, so we DO see each cell, as well as the nominal voltage (the total of the cells), and even if one was surging, or sagging, they will be actively corrected by the BMS in the SMART chip.
FWIW, I would argue that 3VDC is not the "minimum safe voltage" although you can certainly hold you packs to that level of draw down. To be honest, I'd say, 3.3 VDC would be a healthy spot to stop, but again, even with ONE cell running low (sagging), the SMART chip is going to balance that cell asap.
Either way, didn't take your comments as an sort of slight, but not sure where you came up with 4VDC.
Great little plane, I have the 90 mm Viper, I wish I they would’ve put retracts on this one as well!
I think it would have been awesome to see retracts. They would OWN the 64mm market, but they were trying to stay somewhat competitive.
This plane already beats most other 64mm planes, based purely on specs, but it's still pretty pricey. I think the 70mm would be a perfect plane for most who want Retracts, and it's still AMAZING even today.
I want to see a special retract system, like in earlier RC days where there's one or more big servos that drive the gear action...maybe a servoless retract that drives a pushrod, or some such thing...just something creative that makes them easier/cheaper/lighter, and would work in these smaller birds.
Love this guy !! He’s the Jack Black of model flying!! Ha ha! School of flying! LOL
Thanks! Glad we can entertain, and still hopefully bring a helpful detail or two here and there ;)
That’s funny stuff watching you get that out of the tree!
Nice job Megan
thanks ;)
Very well done as always Brian and Megan! But my Arrows 50mm Viper is giving you dirty looks as being your first EDF.😁
The Arrows 50mm Viper is also pretty nice. This one is WAY more feature packed, if it weren't immediately obvious, and the be fair, 50mm < 64mm < 70mm < 90mm ;) BUT, I like all the Vipers we've ever done. I want a UMX now ;) And What about a Carbon Z Viper 120mm ??!?!?! ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Carbon Z Viper 120mm? I just felt a twinge in me floppy.
Brian I just knew when you was flying at the bottom of the that's when I thought he was going to land in a tree that wouldn't have surprised me I always say a RC airplane is always looking for a tree to Land in. That's just like you said that's part of owning a RC airplane. I thought it was a good video and keep on doing what you're doing you and camera crew. PS I thought your son done an excellent job building a nose for that jet
You are unique in flying, but with all the planes you have at home, I understand your skills with RC planes and flying. I expect you are a big seller of RC planes.
Thanks, I only wish I had more time to dedicate to flying these RC planes. We might only get to fly them 2-6 times on a GOOD experience, and sometimes what you see here, filmed, is 100% of the flights we've been able to enjoy. It's the double edged sward of trying to earn enough (with my day job + UA-cam) to keep afloat, while build this crazy aerodrome that we're working our tails off for, and to have it complete while I'm still young enough to enjoy it. I work with so many guys that just work and work and work (think maintenance guys at the plants where I serve for my day job) then they just up and die, have a life altering injury, heath slips, or they just age out of the possibility of flying FULL SCALE - I'm doing everything in my power to not end up in that situation. As a result, we're working VERY hard to expedite this process, not only to show it CAN be done by a "normal" person, not ultra rich, just a working class guy, but that it can be enjoyed in the prime of life. I know this is a big vision, and some won't "get it" but that's okay, this isn't for everyone, and most would have given up by now...I'm just very VERY hard headed ;)
As for the RC planes - they are a branch of my love and appreciation for aviation...but not the whole tree. It is also something I love deeply, and I'm willing to make incredible sacrifices for, and allow family to help me make said investments and effort - lucky them, right - LOL ;)
Hope this makes sense. It's the tip of the iceberg, but might help you understand my situation, if it weren't already clear.
FMS is so upset those nav lights aren't blinking 👍
LOL - Great one! I'll make sure to point that one out to FMS!!!
Wow! That's the longest fishing pole I've ever seen!!
That was stuck FAR higher than any airplane I've put in trees. Treed plenty of them over the years, but I've only lost one. I went back every day for 2 weeks waiting for the wind to knock it down, but I guess someone else found it before I did. I did manage to find that camera that was attached with velcro to the wing since it fell off on impact, so I have good video of the flight (and crash). I thought for sure that it would clear the tree tops on final approach..... 🤔
Now I just make sure there are no trees within a 1/4 mile of where I'm flying, or guaranteed, a tree WILL jump up and catch it! I've just got that kind of luck. Poor depth perception certainly doesn't help. 😂
LOL - yeah, and we made it longer, but never needed it, since mother nature kicked in and brought her down to the surface for us!!! We spent like 3 nights getting this one back, and then about 1 hour just spackeling it up, and my son made the nose cone, which worked pretty nice
DJI drone with a hook, easy peasy recovery!
Except the Viper was down farther than it looked...maybe 15-20 feet down from the top. I thought about that too, if the super-duper-stick-o-shame failed me, and while it did ultimately fail, we never tried the LONGEST rendition...mother nature beat us to the chase ;)
The HH youtube ad I watched this morning did suggest 50c on the 2200mAh a d 30c on the 3200mAh.
Yeah but they had the manual - LOL - we didn't get that in our white box ;) So glad we got this beauty, but the manual was hiding back in Illinois ;)
C'mon Brian! No one flys an EDF with a 30C pack!
Needs a 6S power system and retractable gear and it would absolutely DOMINATE the 64mm class!
I did - LOL - but it was kinda upset with me about doing it - LOL
64mm edf aircraft can and do have retracts ..but I guess if they put them in it might effect the handlaunch option which is great - I cannot work out why e-flite decided to do another VIPER and at 64mm ? Man you need to train your trees better - here in the UK if a tree did that it would get a good old fashioned wooden spoon across its trunk ..LOL... Enjoyed the Video cheers
Sweet! Love the lights, great size too, wonder if next viper 70 will be equipped with lights
Hey Brian. Our comments are being weird over on our channel. Just testing. Let me know if you see this. Thanks man!
What? That's crazy. I DO see this comment, fwiw...
Are you getting the goofy 4-5 names randomly? That's happening on ours too, and it's a spam attack - report and block them ASAP! We see maybe 5-25 per week right now...
Hey Brian do you remember back in the day when you were Andrew s age, you would have been up that tree and shaking the branches like a chimpanzee to retrieve that plane 😂😂
Yeah right! I would have never had the guts, but my buddy Esteban - he's been known to climb a tree or two in recovery efforts ;) LOL
I noticed that the BNF model is only $20 more than the PNP. Usually it's $30 more. Wouldn't mind if that became a common thing. 👍
yeah, that was kinda different, wasn't it!?!?!
Nice looking plane. Just like the small 50mm Habu this plane sucks the juice out of the battery which is to bad because an EDF should be able to take you pushing it to have fun.
BUT, if you use the 3200mAh 4S - you'll be WAY better off - unless you hit a tree smh ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I really enjoyed your crazy rescue rig :)
Preordered using your link.
Awesome! We hope you love it. Thanks for supporting our family!
I'm betting the new 120c 2900mAh packs would be perfect in this Viper.
That's what I'm telling my wife when she sees the credit card bill, anyway 😊
120C?!?!?!? Awesome ;)
Interesting, may get it for my birthday.
Hope you do!
bprc.me/Viper
Do you think spoilarons
I think it would be unnecessary, but if you want CROW, you could do that too, and get it down FASSSSSSSSST........but to avoid dragging the flaps on the ground you could also shut off the delay on the Flap setup, so it's easier to pull them back in....then you can change the speed of that channel in SERVO SETUP, but only on the way DOWN.
Wow, this is a must have for me. Thx to your advice Brian I stick, for the moment, to 4s batteries so this is the thing!
>Thx again for you're great work, greetings to the camera crew.
One q, at wich rate do you charge your batteriesAlso, what reciever is in this bird?
Hey @brianphillipsrc. So I am rejoining the hobby after about 15 years. I am considering the NX8+ 20 channel TX. My question to you is what would be the best receiver with a minimum of AS3x. I would like room to grow with a reciever selection as well as far as channel capacity. Thanks for your input and love y’all’s channel! Tell camera crew thank you as well!
I wouldn't even get an Rx until you pick a plane. If you want a plane as a RETURNING RC enthusiast, I'd highly suggest getting a BNF (Bind and Fly) like many of the Eflite offerings, from Horizon Hobby, which are some of the best ones you can get back into the hobby with. They will help you get your feet under you, then when you're flying again, like you used too, you can start sizing the receivers to the plane you pick.
As a matter of fact, we share what Rx to use in each and every plane we do (aside from some of our really old content). This can be found my opening the Video Description, then right at the top, we share what Plane, Battery (or Batteries), Receiver (if necessary - if it's a PNP Plug and Fly, then we too would have needed a Receiver, but lots of these planes are BNF bind and fly or RTF ready to fly, so keep an eye out for that nomenclature.), and Transmitter (sounds like you already decided on the NX8+ - this is a good choice, and will do most all of what you need, unless you decide you can't live without SLIDERS, which are analog sliders behind the sticks on the back of the transmitter - I don't use them hardly EVER, fyi).
I want you to know that most planes are going to be good on AR630 or AR631 which will get you AS3X+ and SAFE, if you want either of them, but if you have RETRACTS AND you want to setup a complex wing type, like FLAPPERONS/SPOILERONS, to accomplish CROW - something you rarely NEED, but might want to play with, then you might consider going with the AR8360T...this adds two more pluggable channels, but to be clear, there are more "virtual" channels up above the pluggable ones, so you can still impact mode changes, and this is why the newer Trasmitters with "+" or getting an older one and updating the Firmware to get the same 20 Channels has been such a game changer!
Here's our generic list, but you want to ask for a particular PNF plane you're considering, and we can help, but we already have it listed in the Video Description for that plane, fwiw.
We'd be happy to help you as you get your feet wet!
Tx & Rx
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With AS3X/SAFE...
@@BrianPhillipsRC advice taken, still ordered my nx8+ and a couple receivers via your link. Gotta support baby!!!! 🤙
Come on Brian.... you know what im going to say. You already have a 6s Avian in there. Get some 5s lipos in this thing and let he rip. Speak to CNHL and do some demos for their lipos. Amp pull is about 75A so your within the stock ESCs capabilities.
So you think 5S would work??? I think she already rips on 4S!!! I'm still just trying to avoid trees - LOL LOL LOL ;)
@BrianPhillipsRC without a doubt mate. 2200 5s would be perfect.
I have been flying for 71 years and still crash .If your not crashing your not flying
Yeah, this was 100% my fault, and re-watching the footage, I still laugh at myself. I THINK this was the tree that took a few others...and the recovery efforts were kinda fun too...YES, I did fix my Stick-O-Shame, if you were curious - the yellow part that snapped off.
I agree Brian. Viper is an amazing platform. I fly the HH70 and the HSD90. I love them both and would love a 64mm. But I also agree that landing gear on a Viper is almost oxymoronic except for landing. Come on HH. This was your chance. HK has retracts on a 64mm. Thx Brian and Megan.
What HK 64mm has retracts?
I want to get one and put a freewing 2500kv in it lol. My 64mm f15 is a blast on 6s
That's Crazy! 6S?!?! on a 64mm F-15! What size 6S?
Can you review some absolute beginner planes please
www.brianphillipsrc.com/beginnerplanes - We do, and will keep doing it more too ;)
of all the places in your hanger which plane
would you most likely to have a second one
What? I don't get what you're saying
Can my radio work this jet? I have the carbon cub spektrum DXs radio?
Technically you CAN bind to it, but you wouldn't want to fly this plane on the DXs, you won't have enough channels to make everything work.
Get an NX7e if you want to hold down the cost. It will work fine, or if you're trying to get in for the long run, get an NX8 or NX10 at minimum. You'll NEVER regret getting a good Tx.
Tx & Rx
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Beautiful jet man. Hey you guys think sweat bees were bothering, we got those lantern flies at our house in Pa and theres at least a dozen or more every tone we go out the front door all pver the front of our brick
house. Its freaking
ing disgusting.
viper with no retracts? That’s like buying a Ferrari with cloth seats.
It should be 6s with retracts like the FlyFans L39. Such a wasted opportunity
@@xJae14x shame, that the flyfans l-39 is no 70mm. to me it seems the l-39 lacks seriously on speed . otherwise its such a cool plane. looks and sounds so good. and seems very stable.
@@martindelrio1891 I own the L-39 it’s great. Not the fastest option but a 64 on 6s it’s also no slouch. It’s tons of fun. Plenty of 70mm options, best for me is the new 70 F22. I’ve been waiting for one that size
@@xJae14x no question. its no slouch. but it would be awesome if it was a 70 and as fast as the freewing vulcan. but even if the l-39 was a 70, i doubt it would be as fast as the vulcan. the l-39 i think is the draggier airframe.
I think the Retracts would be nice too, but I guess there's just not enough capacity for that. The Flywing 64mm L-39 looks like it's closer to an 80mm airframe, so not sure why they made it a 64mm edf anyway. When they're big, they can squish more goodies in. The wings are pretty thin on the Viper, keep in mind, they're Outboard, whereas the L-39 are more inboard, like an F-16...so just kind not real-estate for the servoless retracts. I still think it'd be cool to have a proper NOSE gear, with servoless retract, then a pushrod, dual drive 30gram servo for the mains, or some such setup
would you ever try a 3d printed plane? like the Eclipson Cobra
Flyfans 64mm l39 has retracts
I've heard this, but too bad it's Banana Hobby selling it here ;(
Sometimes you have to pay for them😂
👍👍👍
thanks!
Whats does AS3X+ actually mean in terms of benefits over AS3X?
Just the ability to edit gyro gains per axis?
Also adds hand launch assist, and nose wheel gyro. I’m not sure on all the technical upgrades tho. 😊
Active Stabilization Three Axis
I think it might be time to purchase a cherry picker.
Don't give him any ideas, Saul! Just kidding... he already suggested that. :)
I want one - GREAT IDEA Saul!!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Then you have the Plane Fun RC blessing to get one. Make sure you drive it to Joe Nall 2025. Can you imagine the number of views?
That's what she said. 🤣
You 2 are too much..." I heard that before. "..." That's what she said."....lmao
1:33:28 😂 Close!!