In case 5, you can rotate shit. WHY DIDN'T PHOENIX DO THAT BEFORE? (Before you get mad at me, I know the 1st 4 cases were made only from the GBA, and case 5 was made specifically for the DS).
@@atlas4451 Max hit him with a glass bottle at the cafeteria, they were fighting for Regina’s hand, he got scolded by the Ringmaster, and they kept throwing punches at each other after that, Max hiding Trillo, and Ben purposely lying and skipping details in his testimony to screw Max
But you missed the best thing about Turnabout Big Top though. Ahem. *IN WEST CLOWNADELPHIA, BORN AND RAISED IN THE PLAYGROUND WHERE I SPENT MY CLOWNIN DAYS.* *CLOWNIN'' OUT MAXIN' RELAXIN' ALL COOL AND ALL CLOWNIN SOME B-BALL OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL* *BUT A COUPLE CLOWNS, THEY WERE UP TO NO GOOD, STARTED MAKING TROUBLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.*
*I WHISTLED FOR A CAB AND WHEN IT CAME NEAR--* *THE LICENSE PLATE SAID "CLOWNS" WITH A DOZEN IN THE REAR.* *IF ANYTHING I COULD SAY THIS CLOWN CAR WAS RARE,* *BUT I THOUGHT 'NAH, THAT'S NORMAL' - 'YO, HOME TO CLOWN-AIR!'*
Curious Fact: The joke about the Tigre been like a tiger is because Phoenix's japanese name contains the word "dragon" and it's like the Dragon vs Tiger thing from japanese culture.
Honestly, I dislike Turnabout Sisters just because it feels so... meh. I played Ace Attorney for the first time on my IPad (only The First Turnabout and Turnabout Sisters were free) and I played Turnabout Sisters in one sitting (long ass car ride). I was SWEATING by the time I got White on the stand, and tbh I didn't really like Maya all that much. When I replayed it on my PS4 (I'm doing Recipe for Turnabout right now) it was Just. So. BORING. When I played through the rest of the first game, I realized just how... normal Turnabout Sisters is in perspective to the rest of the series. Redd White COULD'VE played a part in Turnabout Goodbyes,and that would've made this case worth it.
"The case is heavily stacked against the defense" It's very similar to what the Japanese law system is. You're practically guilty already and it's really hard for the defense to win. Everyone basically believes the prosecution from the start. And prosecution win streaks are definitely a thing and they'll usually do whatever it takes to keep their streak going.
I have to raise an objection to your thoughts on Acro. He tried to kill Regina, not only because of a simple accident, but the damage that she did was too much for him. He's in a wheelchair because he anticipated the lion's bite and jumped off the trapeze in hope to save his brother, ultimately it costed him both of his legs permanently and he couldn't even save his brother in the process. Furthermore Russell had to shoot the lion even though it wasn't his fault, and after a full six months, Regina doesn't even seem to care. He gave Bat six months to wake up from his coma but Regina only made him feel worse each time he saw her. Overall, Acro is by far the most remorseful villain in the series and you can't really blame him for doing it. Sure it wasn't a necessary move, but it wouldn't have been any worse than all the damaged she'd done to him prior. In conclusion, I felt bad when I had to convict him in the end.
@@MoronBoshi "The only person I couldn't forgive was me. In that one moment I understood everything" I will never forget this line. Godot is seriously the best
For some reason I really like Recipe for Turnabout because of how insane and hilarious it is... It seemed to me that everyone writing that one wasn't taking it seriously whatsoever.
@@Crush1084 Like Wambu said "He somehow managed to fool an entire courtroom of people, who have worked with Phoenix for YEARS" Honestly, I knew the Judge was missing brain cells but holy shit. Were all his brains in his hair or something?
I feel Tigre could have been a better villain and more believable if he used his money from his loan business to bribe people, he would still threaten people of course but this change woulds make him controlling the court more believable, and with this change it could change from him having a cardboard attorney badge to an actual replica that he bought, just make him rich from his business and all the problems are solved
He couldn't spend the money because of he still needed to recover from the medical bills. That's why he needed the 1 million. I personally thought the times he threatened everyone in court made for some pretty funny humor. The whole "only press on important statements" thing wasn't really an issue for me because, I would've been pretty terrified too.
Nicholas, even though it would be more realistic if Tigre just bribed people in the court, I also think that it would be taking out much of the humor aspect of that case. I mean, I don't believe for a second that it makes any sense that Tigre could just make people believe he was Wright, but it's just hillarious as hell when you think about that and it makes you wonder how he actually succeeded.
The problem is that Tigre can't AFFORD to bribe people. He NEEDS the money to pay for Viola's medical bells, because her daddy Bruno'll have his ass kicked and then some if he somehow manages to fuck it up.
That is one thing I really hate about ace attorney games. When the killer is strangely antagonistic it just takes away from the whole experience. I want an ace attorney game where the assistant did the crime.
+Wafflecone69 I'm fine with the killer being antagonistic XD My point with Daryan was that he's not only obvious right away, but he barely makes an attempt to hide it, and he almost gets away anyway.
+Wafflecone69 for the assistant thing, I think that in Apollo Justice we have a similar case with Kristoph. what's more he is the very mentor of the main character, that then turns out to be a criminal and this may have been an emotionally strong outcome of events if only he wasn't found guilty immediatly in the first case; in that case it would have been totally different if the player had got the chance to grow found of him before and then found the truth out
Personally, I found the reason why you put Turnabout Sisters on the list was one of the biggest reasons I liked it. It shows just how devious and underhanded Edgeworth is, and how even in death Mia's still willing to help Phoenix showing a pretty strong bond.
Are you sure mate? It has probably the worst ending possible, why would he confess his crime just when Mia mentioned those names? Even if he did blackmailed those or even murdered them, it wasn't proven in court and it would certainly be a hard thing to prove. For a person who considered law& order as a "plaything " not trying to prolong the trail seems totally out of character
@@bullymaguire8380 It's really not out of character. Redd's entire motive was to prevent the public from finding out about his blackmaiing and that he drove people to suicide. If the names of those people get released, there'd be investigations about them, which would tie them to the dealings with Redd White. Letting that information be public would go against the entire reason he killed Mia to begin with.
@@bullymaguire8380 also Edgeworth could’ve easily raised an objection that Mia and Phoenix were threatening and manipulating the witness to take the blame for Maya
5) Turnabout Sisters... may not be bad but at least it introduces us to Edgeworth AND gave us a reason to hate Redd White, whether in the anime or otherwise. 4) The Monstrous Turnabout isn't as bad but at least it was tolerable. Oh and why so serious Florent? 3) Recipe for Turnabout. We have to deal with an asshole named Furio Tigre aka Xin eohp. Man that was nuts but what made it satisfying was how it ended. Karma really bit him in the ass. 2) Apollo Justice is just underrated. Turnabout Serenade isn't as bad. It just isn't but at the same time it had me curious about some of the characters like Lamiroir. 1) Turnabout Big Top... I mention it many times whether I talk about the anime adaptation or otherwise since... a lot of people hated this case. Didn't help that we have to contend with annoying characters and Franny's whip. Man.
Honestly, I actually really liked moe. he was a somewhat crazy but believable character while he still made some of the best choices in the case. although, one testimony in the case sucked bc I knew what happened but the case made it so that I had to present evidence in a wierd order
I have to disagree with you on number 2, turnabout serenade IS that bad, its horrible, good idea but horribly executed, dragged on WAYY too long, the characters weren't entertaining, everything about that case is just awful
I see how you don't like Recipe for turnabout, but you got to admit, Godot accidentally throwing his 75th cup of coffee at Phoenix during the blackout is Funny as heck, right?
@@EddieSMiles1 hey do you understand the term “would”? it’s not the same as “could” or any others! (apart from ones that mean the same thing but shut up)
Not to be offensive, but I LOVE "The Monstrous Turnabout"! While yes, there are nitpicks about this case that are confusing and depressing, but I can't help but smile with the beautiful music, funny interactions, and even the main characters get to shine on a few occasions. Plus, I LOVE L'Belle's theme!
my main problem with the monstrous turnabout is that it does this thing that a lot of Ace Attorney cases do which is act like there might be something supernatural but it turns out that there was a perfectly mundane explanation. Like, in any other game, that would be fine, but this is a series where you can ask your dead boss for legal advice. I just want ONE case where they have to say in court, "Yes, Maya's fingerprints are on the knife, but that's only because a ghost took over her body and stabbed Mr. Victor Timms to death".
Maybe I'm stupid for thinking this.. But Ace Attorney is the only series I can say is truly perfect in my eyes. Some cases aren't as great as others, but I can never say a single one is mediocre, well aside from one, which I will point out. I just want to say, this is my opinion, but I just felt the need to say it, because I can't agree with this list. Turnabout Sisters? I acknowledge your issue with it, but I don't quite agree. Yes, I do think you should have been able to present the evidence and figure it out, which would have been nice to add as an option in the ports where 3D evidence could be done, so you could look on the back. I didn't really find Redd White underwhelming as a whole, because the way he starts to crack when brought into court is really satisfying, given he'd spent the second half of the case calling you worthless. Admittedly, there is some lost potential, which I'll mention later. Monstrous Turnabout? Yeah, I can actually agree with some of your issues, though there's a bit more to each of the characters if you bother to take the time and dissect their dialogue, which is one of my favorite things to do with Ace Attorney. Getting to use Apollo's bracelet again was also really great, although the way it feels shoehorned in is really my biggest issue with Dual Destinies. Also, it is the second case in the game, so much like the first AA game, it's not surprising they show you the killer. After all DD was meant to be a bit more streamlines for new players, so I give that a pass. Recipe for Turnabout is one of my favorite cases altogether. I actually really loved the villain, and the pseduo-abusive relationship between him and Viola is really interesting. It finally managed to do what Turnabout Sisters didn't (The lost Potential). Redd White should have been able to bring in witnesses who would have to lie out of fear of being blackmailed, and make it interesting in that you might end up finishing a day in court where you're being completely misled because of it. Having the main witnesses under Furio Tigre's control made it much more interesting. I actually enjoyed the only press one statement thing, and didn't find it too difficult. Much like other Ace Attorney cases, you press on the one that is either most damaging, or conflicts with earlier testimony. Turnabout Serenade? Another one of my favorite cases. Having to point out flaws in music and video was interesting. I loved the characters, even if Daryan was obviously the murderer. The reason Valant was an asshole isn't really explained until later, which I'll give you, though it makes the game as a whole stand stronger for the character developing throughout the story, instead of being a one off character, which kept this case from being filler. Turnabout Big Top? Yeah. Not arguing. I don't think the case is as bad as some people do. No, he didn't want to kill her for not taking the incident seriously. He wanted to kill her, because she was the one who instigated the incident. And there are some times that Moe is actually really remorseful, talking about all the things the victim had done for them all. But everything else I agree with. Moe is annoying most of the time, as are all the other NPCs, especially your defendant.
Turnabout Big Top is actually one of my favorites. *blush* I actually really thought they went into the remorse, personally. I actually liked the dynamics between the characters near the end, and I found the characters funny, really. I suppose it's a matter of preference, but doesn't it kind of make sense that a group of circus performers would be trying to entertain all the time? I actually also really liked Regina's innocence, showing that while innocence makes you happy, it's also harmful if it's all you know. I like that Moe was really just trying to keep up appearances, I like that Max wasn't happy unless they were aiming for the top. I REALLY liked that case, but I can still understand why people might find it annoying. Not as many people have my sense of humor, I guess.
+NightFlowerLuv Well you already heard my reasoning so I won't repeat myself. But I will say that every point you gave it is definitely valid. I wasn't able to enjoy those parts of it but it's good that you were! If it works for you, then enjoy it ^-^
I Actually loved turnabout serenade because of the concert cutscene. Idk why but seeing prosecutor Gavin panic because of the guitar was hilarious to me. Also I love how he was basically more worried about said guitar than the murder
I didn't mind the repeated showing of the cutscene in Turnabout Serenade because of how frequently they showed Klavier freaking out over the burning guitar. Can't help feeling bad for the guy, but it's still funny to watch him flail like that. XD
Acro's personality was fine, but the actions he took were absolutely dumb. Why killing the daughter of a man he respects who was accidentaly responsible for his brother's death, not to mention he could have just talked to her? Killing Regina wouldn't have changed anything. I just can't feel any sympathy for Acro.
Acro was good... But EVERYSINGLE one of the new characters on Fareway,my turnabout is better. 2 Are dead :v Matt Engarde is hateful but when you bring him down is the most satifaing thing in the game... And Adrian... (I fucking cry'd when I finished the case,like a little girl :'v)
I can see how you would despise 3-3. I love it, personally. iirc it was established that at least Godot knew that Phoenix was being impersonated, and considering that he was the only person to not flinch at all when dealing with Tigre while literally everyone else was cowering in terror, it would definitely make sense if at least the Judge and Bailiffs were intimidated into "believing" it was Wright. Same thing goes for everyone deciding Phoenix is full of shit until literally the end of the case. Doesn't really stitch the wound but it at least tries to tourniquet it.
I'm fully with you on how absurd it is that Machi was accused of all of that, however the purpose of the case is to demonstrate the whole "once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth" thing. Of everyone involved, Machi was the only person who could've been done it at the perceived time, because the Gavinners were on stage, Lamiroir couldn't fit through the vent, Trucy was in the crowd, and Apollo and Ema had alibis in that they were talking to each other while it happened in the next room over. However, I will admit that it would honestly make more sense at that point to assume it was done by some deranged fan, or Apollo and Ema had teamed up and were covering for each other than to assume that Machi did.
I know I’m late saying this, but just to rub salt in the wound with the games, the anime’s version of Turnabout Big Top got rid of the love story stuff and actually had more “family” moments especially towards the end when Phoenix enlists the circus’s help to portray Acro’s crime.
"It turns out that the phone guy was purple guy all along" Well to be fair the dude is wearing purple. I'll let this unneeded yet funny FNAF joke slide not just cause I love FNAF though.
In all fairness, the motive for Turnabout Big Top is sound. Acro basically tried to kill a spoiled brat who almost killed his brother and ruined both of their careers all for a prank, AND she didn't even acknowledge that she did anything wrong.
I never read Regina as a "spoiled brat". In fact, I personally read the case as implying that Regina has some form of developmental disorder. I mean, she doesn't act like someone who's a bit out of touch and doesn't understand the outside world very well. She acts more like a literal child. Phoenix even at one point questions if everything is "all right" with her in a situation where she doesn't seem to be emotional.
I feel like the argument for T&T not having much impact on the series afterwards compared to the first game is because it’s a trilogy. The original game stands on its own due to its expectation as a standalone game Justice for All builds off of the original game with the developers having knowledge a third game was going to occur. Therefore they could set up for T&T T&T was only followed up 3 years later by a game set 7 years after it with a new cast, and the second trilogy appears to follow a rule that they can’t follow up on characters or plot points from prior games for newer fans
I honestly think Recipe for Turnabout is the best third case in the series. It’s just so ridiculous that I can’t help but love it, and Tigre is actually a really cunning villain (minus how his plan depended on the judge being an idiot)
Serenade is so unbelievably frustrating because it has some really fun ideas. I like that Lamiroir is supposedly helping a blind kid but it actually being the opposite, I like that you have to pinpoint something suspicious in songs by breaking down each instrument, and I like that the defendant isn’t completely innocent and has to be charged with a different crime. But that’s only a sliver in a case that has to repeat itself constantly. The millisecond you solve everything, they bring up something already debunked and you have to cross examine again just to reiterate something that you finished explaining just before that. How could Lamiroir witness the crime if she can’t see? She heard a gunshot, and this proves it. Okay but what about the guitar on fire? You can see that it was planned, listen to this piano. I understand that but what about Lamiroir? She heard the gunshots? How? And so on
I actually liked the third case of justice for all. I liked all the characters, especially Acro. The story is very good, in my opinion. For the first time you can really feel the motivations of the killer
Also I have one thing to say about Turnabout Sisters…..Why weren’t fingerprints taken? I know that it’s not really required but still they can be important. I could be wrong about this statement and what I’m about to say next, but why do Fingerprints only become important when it works against the played?
I wasn't expecting Turnabout Serenade to be on this list. When you explained your ranking for it, I nearly died laughing because I understood the logic but went with the accusation towards Machi for some reason. 🤣
My biggest issue with Turnabout Sisters is that it feels like it should be...grander. Redd White was this guy with incredible political influence that Mia died trying to uncover his crimes. If it was a later case, it would have had more oomph
Say what you will about Monstrous Turnabout and how underwhelming and predictable it's killer was, Florent L'Belle's theme goes unreasonably fucking hard
Not just that, her cheerful and overly optimistic attitude towards that subject made Acro think Regina was mocking him or taking Bat's "death" as just a joke, and was a daily thing, so he grew to hate her more and more each passing day
The recently dubbed Ace Attorney Anime shows how good Turnabout Sisters could of been if it focused more on the impact Mia's death has and Red White as a villain.
An Ace Attorney countdown, eh? I've made a couple of those.#5- I thought this was a pretty good case. Wouldn't make in it my Top 20, but would be somewhere in the 25 - 21 range. But this was a good case because 1 it introduced Maya, 2 it shows off the powers of the Kurain Channeling Technique, and 3 it shows why Mia became a Defense Attorney. Though Redd White is a pretty lousy villain mainly because he's built up to be this powerful guy, but he's taken down pretty easily for someone of that power. Besides, Turnabout Samurai was worse than this imo.#4- Eh, Cosmic Turnabout was worse imo, also, the 1st case introduced Athena, not this one. But you were probably trying to say it's the 1st case she was in chronologically. But you complaining about the killer being revealed at the beginning is odd since they've done it before, but I don't recall you saying anything about that. Redd White was done the same way, but you never said anything about him being revealed at the beginning is what I'm saying.#3- I personally loved this case BECAUSE of how stupid it was. I mean, I didn't mind doing all that stuff you said was a problem, and I just really enjoyed the characters in it because of the quirkiness they had. It was filler, but it kept me pretty entertained. Though, this case did establish Godot's inability to see red on a white background. Sure, they could have just done something with what they did in Case 5, but it also manages to develop Godot as a character some. Red on white thing, his ability to stay incredibly calm with a raging tiger, things like that. #2- I'll have to agree somewhat. The concept was kinda dumb, quite a few inconsistencies, but Daryan Crescene was a pretty good villain. The thing that saved this case from being the absolute worst case in Apollo Justice and possibly the series. He can't compete with Kristoph Gavin, no, but he's much better than Alita Tiala. But you shouldn't complain about him acting like a villain mid-case when others have done it.#1- I personally really don't hate this case. I guess I can get behind what you're saying, but I still like this case because, again, the quirks. Ben and Trilo where incredibly funny, Moe was there to deliver the bad jokes, and Acro, he deserves all the sympathy he should get. Like you said, what he did was an accident, and he meant to kill someone else. But, you still feel sorry for him because of all the shit he's been through. It's probably my least favorite case in the game, but again, I don't hate it like everyone else.Overall, this countdown was pretty good, a few things I'd work on, like wording yourself better. But still pretty alright. And I'd definitely like to see what your favorite cases are, and see if they measure up to mine. 'cuz my ace attorney opinion is the only ace attorney opinion 'cuz I did ace attorney month.
+randezzel27 #5. Yeah, since I like all the cases in the first game, it just came down to a matter of "Which am I the most indifferent towards?" That's kinda the problem with doing the 1 per game rule. I enjoyed Turnabout Samurai just a little more cause it was the first case that didn't feel super hand holding to me and I appreciated that. Basically Turnabout Sisters is fine, but I like the other ones in the game by just a bit. #4. Yeah I definitely could have worded a lot of this entry better. I DID mean it was the first to introduce her chronologically. Also I wasn't necessarily trying to say revealing the killer at the beginning was bad. I was trying to say that knowing the mystery already is a pain when the investigations already feel more tedious then usual. #3. You're definitely not the only one who feels that way about the case, so by all means have fun with it if it works for you ^-^ Every bone you've given it is valid, but for me personally, the whole thing was just frustrating. #2. I still think this case is WAY worse then all the other ones in AJ. And I know other cases have had villains act evil mid-way, but with others, it seemed like they could at least manipulate the scene or people enough to pass themselves off as innocent. As opposed to Daryan who pretty much has all the evidence point to him, and yet the story needs to phone in a reason to almost let him go anyway. What I'm saying is I don't like how transparently guilty he makes himself. #1. Moe annoyed me and I couldn't stand Ben and Trilo, personally XD But that's just all taste. As for Acro, I'll admit I came across as way too unsympathetic. I do feel genuine sympathy given his circumstance. I just don't sympathize with his motivation for murder (which I guess is inteded). Either way, I admit I was too harsh on the guy. Thanks for watching my video, and thanks for taking the time to give me some feedback!
@@patrickgowen324 Compared to other final cases, I could see Turnabout Ablaze, but honestly I would have thought if any, Case I-4 would have been most likely to be chosen. But, even still, I felt like it was rather ok.
I personally don't think recipe for turnabout being so ridiculous is a bad thing. Ace attorney is already weird as hell, even the most grounded cases have weird shit. Stuff like the spirit channeling
The song number in Turnabout Serenade wouldn't be so tedious if you could actually HEAR the song, as opposed to having to read some cut-rate poetry while your DS makes noises at you. And why'd you make it seem like you weren't going to go with "Turnabout Big Top" only to turn around and say "It's Turnabout Big Top"?
I definitely agree on all of these. Especially 1. We've got the infuriating handicap against Moe, Ben and Trilo being super vague on the stand, Acro going way overboard (any sane person would've screamed at Regina and then called her dad over to talk/yell about treating death and mortality more seriously), and enough ways to get penalized to make Nick's head spin.
At least the Ace Attorney anime actually did a really good job covering Turnabout Big Top. I honestly liked the original case (I'm a sucker for a good circus theme, along with colorful characters metaphorical and literal) but I think they improved it a lot. By trimming down the more tedious moments they made room for more serious character moments, with special mention to the way they handled the final day in court. If you disliked the case in the game, I recommend watching the episodes to see the case done right.
1. Fully disagree... The case was actually cleverly put together... as the characters were very anti-social and awkward, it became very hard to discern who could've killed the victim. But when the accident was revealed about Bat, and Acro basically became appointed murderer by Phoenix immediately (as should be obvious), there was still no logical explanation of how he could've killed the victim, which was clever, because usually the method of killing is clear in just a few observations. I feel the characters were purposely annoying to throw you off, and the murderer was a lot more relate-able then any other murderer thus far in the series, to the point that a lot of murderers just felt really generic in comparison. I might be weird, but I feel that case is actually one of the BEST cases in the series... :-P
I really liked the premise and the twists of Turbabout Big Top, what bugged me was the plot holes. The murder method was so horribly unreliable. And by that I don't mean that I disliked that the wrong person was killed, I agree with the video and thought that was an interesting deviation from the usual themes. Acro couldn't see what he was doing while committing the murder, which is why he didn't notice it was the ringmaster instead of Regina. Cool. But then how did he know exactly when to drop the bust? Even if (by stretching reality to its limits already) we assume he could tell by the "sounds" of trying to lift the box, whatever the hell that means, he couldn't even know if the person's head would be in the exact right spot. They could be in a different position, drag it from the side instead of lifting it. Even by just leaning slightly to one side they could only get scraped instead of hit dead on. It was such an unreliable method, it would have led to failure in 90% of cases, which would then lead to Acro most definitely getting caught right away. Not to mention the cape somehow getting snagged on the bust perfectly. Having played all of the ace attorney games, I am very much willing to accept some level of absurdity, but I feel like this case pushed it a bit too much. Still, I wouldn't call it the worst case personally.
Wambu Heh, yeah, that's the one I mean. xD The moment I saw him for the first time in the game I thought "why the heck do you wear a Pokemon on your head?"
1:00 I'm pretty sure if he included the spin-offs it would be mostly Edgeworth's games. Although I haven't seen much Ace Attorney so this video might prove me wrong
9:04 I've been thinking about Recipie for Turnabout, and I totally think this rule applies to it. Recipie for Turnabout is the only case that dosen't contribute to Bridge to the Turnabout. Memories introduces Dahlia Hawthorne and an important part of Phoenix's past(and also Payne's), Stolen introduces Godot and introduces Larry's desire to change(without this, Bridge would have no Laurice Deaxnuim), and Begginings gives more detail on Dahlia. But Recipie is useless!
Can't watch the Duel Destinies one! I'm only one the second case! But I can't believe one of your least favorite cases is Turnabout Sisters! That was like, one of my all time favorites!
A plot hole with turnabout sisters that seems I’m the only one who noticed is nobody finds it suspicious that two people who saw the murder form the same place said two people that look nothing alike committed the murder
Weird, I played Apollo Justice just the other day and I loved the Turnabout Serenade case. Funny, that. I thought the second case was a lot worse since the vibe of the investigation part just wasn't very exciting - I really liked the investigation of Turnabout Serenade - and the guilty party is a huge idiot and would've gotten away with the crime if they hadn't chosen to testify, which they did of their own volition instead of being dragged into court by Apollo. Plus the big twist of it was so easy to see coming and it took so long for the characters to put the dots together that it was annoying.
It wasn't stupid. They claimed to have asked Apollo to defend because they wanted a guilty verdict, which is reasonable considering Apollo was a rookie who had only won one case (thanks to shady evidence) and his mentor was considered to be a known forger. I mean, what else could you expect from the "Wright talent agency"?
@@santiagorodriguez2940 No no that part is fine. I'm talking about the second day of the trial. If they hadn't come to court, or just pleaded the fifth, they could've gotten away with it I think.
@@DementedDuskull they had to go to testify, remember hey almost got caught infiltrating meraktis room and they left the safe half-open. Had they not come to trial they'd have been under fire anyways because of the medical chart. Also Stickler's testimony had cast doubt on the case already, so it's not like they could simply wait it out
@@santiagorodriguez2940 Point taken, though the fact that they hire Apollo to get the defendant acquitted and then turn back on that on day two and try to get them found guilty was so suspicious and really ruined the tension of the remainder of the case. Before then, I didn't even really suspect the guilty party, but after that sudden turn, it just became obvious - same reason why Wambu doesn't like PSM, since he just halts your investigation out of nowhere because he's totally not the killer.
@@DementedDuskull You're missing the point. They didn't want the defendant acquitted, they wanted the defendant found guilty, and they hired apollo because they thought he would perform poorly and the verdict would indeed be guilty. Kinda like Tigre pretending to be the attorney so Maggey would be found guilty
Spoilers for case 4-3 No comments on the Lamoir cross examination in case 4-3? I spent HOURS trying to figure out what that woman meant when she said she "saw the murder through a window" so of course you look for a window... AIR VENT. SHE MEANT AIR VENT. I WANTED TO CRY.
Wambu I know, just checking to see if I'm the only one. Then again, my favorite case in the series is Rise From the Ashes so I'm used to being in the minority. Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on that case?
Storm base reviews Honestly, it was a contender on both my worst and my best list XD I have a love hate relationship with that case. The investigations are a lot of fun, and the trials are really cool, but it becomes so convoluted after a while. I still like it more than I dislike it though.
wambu you are preaching to the choir, with the first case. I couldn't stop replaying the part at 2:42 I was laughing so hard! you summed it up perfectly
Recipe for Turnabout reminds of both Mario Sunshine and Sonic Adventure 2 in the way that both Mario and Sonic were also mistaken for culprits who look absolutely nothing like them and yet they still receive some form of consequence for their evil counterpart's actions. Mario is arrested and sentenced to clean up the entire island on his own and Sonic is forced to go on the run from the military police until he clears his name. And now we have someone who somehow managed to impersonate Phoenix despite looking absolutely NOTHING like him all because he wore a blue suit and had a paper badge. And what's even more cringy is that characters constantly act as if it was still Phoenix despite them already knowing that the one of the last case was a phony such your own freaking client (Maggey) and even Maya. It made the case pretty painful to play for me. I know it was suppose to be some kind of recurring joke throughout the case, but it just made them look really stupid and incompetent.
What I hated about Turnabout Sisters is that after all your hard work, you were on the verge of winning, and then Mia is like "hey here's a list read this out and you win bye" It just completely nullifies everything that happened before hand! WHY!?
15:04 Because she wasn't... No! No! No! It wasn't just that! **SPOILERS** Acro tried to kill Regina because he KNEW she caused the incident. That's what the note was about!
+SuperParkourio I thought that it was just her carefree attitude. I mean, he clearly knew that she caused the incident (or, at least, he blamed her for it). He probably could've dealt with it knowing she caused it if she respected it, but it was her carefree attitude that tipped him off.
I absolutely hated Recipe for Turnabout. In addition to the reasons already mentioned in the video, the case ends with Phoenix bluffing information about an evidence to Tigre only by PURE LUCK that he would be fooled into talking about how the actual thing containing the poison looked like. It's such a weak and meaning "revelation". Also, the suspense music plays at all the wrong moments, especially in that case. It's gotten me easily desensitized from what could be one of the most intense themes in the series because that thing would keep on playing when things get advantageous for Phoenix. The episode would have been so intriguing due to the Xin Eohp plot, but it's executed so poorly
First time I see your videos...and it's impressive. It has personality, it has well structured criticism and a good mix of analysis and humor. Earned a new sub here.
That case is annoying for me. If anything, that kid made things just worse for it (backtracking and his court testimony) besides the among of moving around and not knowing where the heck the new events unfold.
So, you've done a Countdown of the best and worst Ace Attorney cases from each of the five games. Did a collab with Joshscorcher reviewing Spirit of Justice, AND at the same time, told us what you favorite and least favorite case is in that game. But what about the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles? Ever think of doing a video about that game?
I love how you're standing in the assistant spot, it feels like I'm in the middle of trial and you're just like; STOP, I gotta give you my opinion before we continue trial. By the way, I really liked the way you used the save jingle from the respective game between the cases!
One thing I found strange in Recipe for Turnabout was Phoenix' reaction or lack thereof. I would think he would react a lot more aggressively to someone ruining his name. It's something he takes great pride in after all so I would imagine he would be pretty upset when someone ruins it.
Quite literally finished your number one an hour before this was uploaded. I personally liked a lot of the twists it had, how you know the last character introduced will be the killer, yet he comes off as the only sane and calm one(the *birds*), and I did end up empathizing with the plight of a man in his position: that is, blaming someone who wasn't responsible by their intention, but by nature, and spending months in depression extended by his personal disability. Just the image of him rolling around in his room, oof. I even liked Moe since he didn't waste too much time before it became obvious he'd be stepping up in the group. I guess I'm bias right now, what with no time to process and the fact that the ending has me hyped for the game's final case (EDGEWORTH!!), but yeah. I enjoyed what I saw, how you presented yourself, and one day, I'll come back and see what I skipped over. . . which was most, depressingly enough. Thanks be to "Watch Later". :3
+SnivySomnia Yeah, I get what you're saying actually. I didn't mean to imply that Acro wasn't worth having ANY sympathy towards. I sympathize with his circumstance but maybe not really his motivation. Admittedly he was probably the best part and even though I didn't like the case, I found myself getting more interested when he came in to the picture. Like I said in the beginning of the video, I see some redeeming factors in ALL the cases so if you enjoy it, then by all means enjoy it :3
Big Top was so bad that when I accidentally deleted my JFA save file in the middle of Farewell, My Turnabout, I didn't even have the energy to get back to that case. I just gave up and started Trials and Tribulations instead. I'll get there eventually... just not any time soon.
I still don’t get How phoenix is incapable of remenbering that mia bought the light stand recently,dure you worked in that place for at least a month do you have amnésia or something?
The criticism for Turnabout Serenade is totally valid! But, I think the reason I ended up actually enjoying it more than the case before it was because the nature of the crime was so unique, and a lot of the cast was really likable. We get some humanization on Klavier's part, meet Lamiroir and Machi, see a concert. Heck, there's even some character development for Apollo, fighting tooth and nail against an unjust court system to uphold Mr. LeTouse's dying wish. Watching the video over and over again can be repetitive, but I don't think it's nearly as frustrating in Turnabout Serenade than it is in Rise from the Ashes. My biggest gripes are with Daryan, who was the obvious culprit and just a bad character altogether, and the police arresting a literal child who they believed to be blind for committing the murder based on circumstantial evidence that is pretty quickly proven to be faulty in court. But, I dunno, maybe I'm the crazy one lol
I'd like to believe that Turnabout Serenade was a statement on how in that particular case, common sense and logic had vanished from the courtroom; it not only showed the Judge's incompetence, but also his predispositioned bias to the prosecution. Just like in real life, sometimes...
I find that the Turnabout Sisters one was quite fun but at the same time it was quite tedious, and like you said you don’t get much satisfaction at the end either
N.5: The ending to Turnabout Sisters makes me laugh so hard.
"Wait... you mean the receipt had ANOTHER SIDE?!"
+Sammy Peterson You spelled recipt instead of receipt
Nintendo Lover Thanks
+Sammy Peterson HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA I was loling for hours after that
+Morgan Frost * haha
Sorry my iPad wants to make me seem like an insane person
In case 5, you can rotate shit. WHY DIDN'T PHOENIX DO THAT BEFORE? (Before you get mad at me, I know the 1st 4 cases were made only from the GBA, and case 5 was made specifically for the DS).
The craziest part of Turnabout Big Top for me is the part where all of these grown men were literally fighting over a teenage girl
My personal headcanon is that Max is clearly not really into Regina and has the good taste to pound on Ben.
That sound Sus my guy
Fax
@@breakingboardrooms1778 POUND ?? ON BEN ?
@@atlas4451 Max hit him with a glass bottle at the cafeteria, they were fighting for Regina’s hand, he got scolded by the Ringmaster, and they kept throwing punches at each other after that, Max hiding Trillo, and Ben purposely lying and skipping details in his testimony to screw Max
I love that bit just before the final case. "NOT everyone hates that case. I do though."
I guess you could say that was one hell of a *turnabout.*
*Ba-dum-TSSS*
Hellscrap3r Yeah I love those mindgames haha.
Hellscrap3r I actually like this case...
GET OUT
My expectatians were veeeery low when I started it. But I liked the story. I didn't like trilo and ben tho...
But you missed the best thing about Turnabout Big Top though.
Ahem.
*IN WEST CLOWNADELPHIA, BORN AND RAISED IN THE PLAYGROUND WHERE I SPENT MY CLOWNIN DAYS.*
*CLOWNIN'' OUT MAXIN' RELAXIN' ALL COOL AND ALL CLOWNIN SOME B-BALL OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL*
*BUT A COUPLE CLOWNS, THEY WERE UP TO NO GOOD, STARTED MAKING TROUBLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.*
+Fawful theLEGO I got in one little fight an my mom got scared.
+Wafflecone69 You said an instead of and.
+Wafflecone69 she said" you're living with your aunt and uncle in clown air"
*I WHISTLED FOR A CAB AND WHEN IT CAME NEAR--*
*THE LICENSE PLATE SAID "CLOWNS" WITH A DOZEN IN THE REAR.*
*IF ANYTHING I COULD SAY THIS CLOWN CAR WAS RARE,*
*BUT I THOUGHT 'NAH, THAT'S NORMAL' - 'YO, HOME TO CLOWN-AIR!'*
Imma let you finish but was Bowser Jr. The driver? XD
Curious Fact:
The joke about the Tigre been like a tiger is because Phoenix's japanese name contains the word "dragon" and it's like the Dragon vs Tiger thing from japanese culture.
Cool
*Cough* Divination Seyance *Hack*
Ryuji right?
One of those "lost in translation" things, eh?
A phoenix is also a mythical bird that rises from the ashes after death, which kinda references dual destinies
I disagree about Turnabout Sister, I'm pretty sure that Mia wanted to take that sparkly douche-bag more than anyone else. So let her do the justice.
Honestly, I dislike Turnabout Sisters just because it feels so... meh. I played Ace Attorney for the first time on my IPad (only The First Turnabout and Turnabout Sisters were free) and I played Turnabout Sisters in one sitting (long ass car ride). I was SWEATING by the time I got White on the stand, and tbh I didn't really like Maya all that much. When I replayed it on my PS4 (I'm doing Recipe for Turnabout right now) it was Just. So. BORING. When I played through the rest of the first game, I realized just how... normal Turnabout Sisters is in perspective to the rest of the series. Redd White COULD'VE played a part in Turnabout Goodbyes,and that would've made this case worth it.
And you get to blackmail him in THE FREAKING COURT
and phoenix is literally fresh off his first case in turnabout sisters
Austro-Hungarian Egonomist true
Regardless of who “deserves it more” how it was done was poor
"The Justice System is Shitty"
The underlying message of the games.
That’s the message of Apollo Justice
"The case is heavily stacked against the defense"
It's very similar to what the Japanese law system is. You're practically guilty already and it's really hard for the defense to win. Everyone basically believes the prosecution from the start.
And prosecution win streaks are definitely a thing and they'll usually do whatever it takes to keep their streak going.
I have to raise an objection to your thoughts on Acro. He tried to kill Regina, not only because of a simple accident, but the damage that she did was too much for him. He's in a wheelchair because he anticipated the lion's bite and jumped off the trapeze in hope to save his brother, ultimately it costed him both of his legs permanently and he couldn't even save his brother in the process. Furthermore Russell had to shoot the lion even though it wasn't his fault, and after a full six months, Regina doesn't even seem to care. He gave Bat six months to wake up from his coma but Regina only made him feel worse each time he saw her.
Overall, Acro is by far the most remorseful villain in the series and you can't really blame him for doing it. Sure it wasn't a necessary move, but it wouldn't have been any worse than all the damaged she'd done to him prior. In conclusion, I felt bad when I had to convict him in the end.
yes this case won me over at the end, i genuinely felt bad as for the characters aswell. I dunno but i felt the atmosphere in the courtroom lmao
I feel as though godot is much more remorseful. His story is perfect, his character is perfect, he... Is perfect
@@MoronBoshi "The only person I couldn't forgive was me. In that one moment I understood everything"
I will never forget this line. Godot is seriously the best
I don't think the damage on his legs in permanent. After all he did say he was doing physiotherapy to be able to walk again didn't he?
* glances at Godot * you don't mean...?
For some reason I really like Recipe for Turnabout because of how insane and hilarious it is... It seemed to me that everyone writing that one wasn't taking it seriously whatsoever.
its almost like its a guilty pleasure case in the series
It was written by one person
I thought it was entertaining, but the fact that people somehow mistook Tigre for Phoenix kinda makes everyone look like an idiot.
That case was pretty good except tigre gets on my nerves and SUCKS.
@@Crush1084 Like Wambu said "He somehow managed to fool an entire courtroom of people, who have worked with Phoenix for YEARS" Honestly, I knew the Judge was missing brain cells but holy shit. Were all his brains in his hair or something?
I feel Tigre could have been a better villain and more believable if he used his money from his loan business to bribe people, he would still threaten people of course but this change woulds make him controlling the court more believable, and with this change it could change from him having a cardboard attorney badge to an actual replica that he bought, just make him rich from his business and all the problems are solved
He couldn't spend the money because of he still needed to recover from the medical bills. That's why he needed the 1 million. I personally thought the times he threatened everyone in court made for some pretty funny humor. The whole "only press on important statements" thing wasn't really an issue for me because, I would've been pretty terrified too.
+Mem Man I like that Phoenix calls Godot out after Phoenix hides under the table
Nicholas, even though it would be more realistic if Tigre just bribed people in the court, I also think that it would be taking out much of the humor aspect of that case. I mean, I don't believe for a second that it makes any sense that Tigre could just make people believe he was Wright, but it's just hillarious as hell when you think about that and it makes you wonder how he actually succeeded.
The problem is that Tigre can't AFFORD to bribe people. He NEEDS the money to pay for Viola's medical bells, because her daddy Bruno'll have his ass kicked and then some if he somehow manages to fuck it up.
yeah
2:06 Funny, that. When I first saw Redd White in the pre-case cutscene, I just thought it was Sahwit wearing a pink wig.
Same
PFFT
That is one thing I really hate about ace attorney games. When the killer is strangely antagonistic it just takes away from the whole experience. I want an ace attorney game where the assistant did the crime.
+Wafflecone69
I'm fine with the killer being antagonistic XD My point with Daryan was that he's not only obvious right away, but he barely makes an attempt to hide it, and he almost gets away anyway.
+Wafflecone69 Well there more annoying thing is when they show the murderer at the beginning of a case well except the first AA case 4
Actually whats worst is when the killer is painfully obvious ex being vaquesz, fuiro tigre, florence lebelle, etc.
Dyran is byfor one of my least favorite killers. But he isn't nearly as bad as redd white.
+Wafflecone69 for the assistant thing, I think that in Apollo Justice we have a similar case with Kristoph. what's more he is the very mentor of the main character, that then turns out to be a criminal and this may have been an emotionally strong outcome of events if only he wasn't found guilty immediatly in the first case; in that case it would have been totally different if the player had got the chance to grow found of him before and then found the truth out
Personally, I found the reason why you put Turnabout Sisters on the list was one of the biggest reasons I liked it. It shows just how devious and underhanded Edgeworth is, and how even in death Mia's still willing to help Phoenix showing a pretty strong bond.
Are you sure mate? It has probably the worst ending possible, why would he confess his crime just when Mia mentioned those names? Even if he did blackmailed those or even murdered them, it wasn't proven in court and it would certainly be a hard thing to prove. For a person who considered law& order as a "plaything " not trying to prolong the trail seems totally out of character
@@bullymaguire8380 It's really not out of character. Redd's entire motive was to prevent the public from finding out about his blackmaiing and that he drove people to suicide. If the names of those people get released, there'd be investigations about them, which would tie them to the dealings with Redd White. Letting that information be public would go against the entire reason he killed Mia to begin with.
@@bullymaguire8380 also Edgeworth could’ve easily raised an objection that Mia and Phoenix were threatening and manipulating the witness to take the blame for Maya
No wonder the Fandom ships those two. Edgeworth really out here simping since 2001.
5) Turnabout Sisters... may not be bad but at least it introduces us to Edgeworth AND gave us a reason to hate Redd White, whether in the anime or otherwise.
4) The Monstrous Turnabout isn't as bad but at least it was tolerable. Oh and why so serious Florent?
3) Recipe for Turnabout. We have to deal with an asshole named Furio Tigre aka Xin eohp. Man that was nuts but what made it satisfying was how it ended. Karma really bit him in the ass.
2) Apollo Justice is just underrated. Turnabout Serenade isn't as bad. It just isn't but at the same time it had me curious about some of the characters like Lamiroir.
1) Turnabout Big Top... I mention it many times whether I talk about the anime adaptation or otherwise since... a lot of people hated this case. Didn't help that we have to contend with annoying characters and Franny's whip. Man.
“Karma really bit him in the ass.”
Thanks for planting that image in my brain.
(I know that’s not what you meant.)
@@Versitax which Karma tho? :3
@@ronny_innor von Karma
Don't ask which one
Honestly, I actually really liked moe. he was a somewhat crazy but believable character while he still made some of the best choices in the case. although, one testimony in the case sucked bc I knew what happened but the case made it so that I had to present evidence in a wierd order
I have to disagree with you on number 2, turnabout serenade IS that bad, its horrible, good idea but horribly executed, dragged on WAYY too long, the characters weren't entertaining, everything about that case is just awful
Indeed. I agree with most of what you said. Can't wait to see what you think about the best!
+joshscorcher Ahhh I agree. ANOTHER COUNTDOWN.
+joshscorcher The fun of only owning the first 2 games. I only got to watch 40% of the video. Totally agree on the circus one though.
joshscorcher JOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHHHH! 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Sempai noticed yoooouuuuu!
I come from the future where Josh and Wambu do a colab review of Phoenix Wright: Spirit of Justice
I see how you don't like Recipe for turnabout, but you got to admit, Godot accidentally throwing his 75th cup of coffee at Phoenix during the blackout is Funny as heck, right?
Did you mean 17th?
The anime definitely made Turnabout Big Top a better case.
Yet I still disliked it...
Let's be honest: we ALL would've known it was L'Belle the second we saw him
@@EddieSMiles1 they're saying if that scene wasn't shown
@@EddieSMiles1 he says WOULD
@@EddieSMiles1 hey do you understand the term “would”? it’s not the same as “could” or any others! (apart from ones that mean the same thing but shut up)
Yeah pretty much. Remember, L'belle was created solely to be eccentric and unlikable. Just another glorified Redd White.
He’s a low poly Redd White.
"The killer missed ONE of his shots. He MUST be blind!"
Not to be offensive, but I LOVE "The Monstrous Turnabout"! While yes, there are nitpicks about this case that are confusing and depressing, but I can't help but smile with the beautiful music, funny interactions, and even the main characters get to shine on a few occasions.
Plus, I LOVE L'Belle's theme!
+Aaron F. Davis (UTubeSponge) It's one of my favorites in DD.
I think the "Let's Dub Project" channel made it even more astounding and hilarious. Check it out, it's really good! :D
Oh heck yes.
The tanooki man is funny
my main problem with the monstrous turnabout is that it does this thing that a lot of Ace Attorney cases do which is act like there might be something supernatural but it turns out that there was a perfectly mundane explanation. Like, in any other game, that would be fine, but this is a series where you can ask your dead boss for legal advice. I just want ONE case where they have to say in court, "Yes, Maya's fingerprints are on the knife, but that's only because a ghost took over her body and stabbed Mr. Victor Timms to death".
Maybe I'm stupid for thinking this.. But Ace Attorney is the only series I can say is truly perfect in my eyes. Some cases aren't as great as others, but I can never say a single one is mediocre, well aside from one, which I will point out. I just want to say, this is my opinion, but I just felt the need to say it, because I can't agree with this list.
Turnabout Sisters? I acknowledge your issue with it, but I don't quite agree. Yes, I do think you should have been able to present the evidence and figure it out, which would have been nice to add as an option in the ports where 3D evidence could be done, so you could look on the back. I didn't really find Redd White underwhelming as a whole, because the way he starts to crack when brought into court is really satisfying, given he'd spent the second half of the case calling you worthless. Admittedly, there is some lost potential, which I'll mention later.
Monstrous Turnabout? Yeah, I can actually agree with some of your issues, though there's a bit more to each of the characters if you bother to take the time and dissect their dialogue, which is one of my favorite things to do with Ace Attorney. Getting to use Apollo's bracelet again was also really great, although the way it feels shoehorned in is really my biggest issue with Dual Destinies. Also, it is the second case in the game, so much like the first AA game, it's not surprising they show you the killer. After all DD was meant to be a bit more streamlines for new players, so I give that a pass.
Recipe for Turnabout is one of my favorite cases altogether. I actually really loved the villain, and the pseduo-abusive relationship between him and Viola is really interesting.
It finally managed to do what Turnabout Sisters didn't (The lost Potential). Redd White should have been able to bring in witnesses who would have to lie out of fear of being blackmailed, and make it interesting in that you might end up finishing a day in court where you're being completely misled because of it. Having the main witnesses under Furio Tigre's control made it much more interesting. I actually enjoyed the only press one statement thing, and didn't find it too difficult. Much like other Ace Attorney cases, you press on the one that is either most damaging, or conflicts with earlier testimony.
Turnabout Serenade? Another one of my favorite cases. Having to point out flaws in music and video was interesting. I loved the characters, even if Daryan was obviously the murderer. The reason Valant was an asshole isn't really explained until later, which I'll give you, though it makes the game as a whole stand stronger for the character developing throughout the story, instead of being a one off character, which kept this case from being filler.
Turnabout Big Top? Yeah. Not arguing. I don't think the case is as bad as some people do. No, he didn't want to kill her for not taking the incident seriously. He wanted to kill her, because she was the one who instigated the incident. And there are some times that Moe is actually really remorseful, talking about all the things the victim had done for them all. But everything else I agree with. Moe is annoying most of the time, as are all the other NPCs, especially your defendant.
Turnabout Big Top is actually one of my favorites. *blush*
I actually really thought they went into the remorse, personally. I actually liked the dynamics between the characters near the end, and I found the characters funny, really. I suppose it's a matter of preference, but doesn't it kind of make sense that a group of circus performers would be trying to entertain all the time?
I actually also really liked Regina's innocence, showing that while innocence makes you happy, it's also harmful if it's all you know. I like that Moe was really just trying to keep up appearances, I like that Max wasn't happy unless they were aiming for the top.
I REALLY liked that case, but I can still understand why people might find it annoying. Not as many people have my sense of humor, I guess.
+NightFlowerLuv
Well you already heard my reasoning so I won't repeat myself. But I will say that every point you gave it is definitely valid. I wasn't able to enjoy those parts of it but it's good that you were! If it works for you, then enjoy it ^-^
Yay, understanding~
You're not alone though. it's also my favourite case specificly for the reasons you said. Didn't even knew so many fans hated it
I Actually loved turnabout serenade because of the concert cutscene. Idk why but seeing prosecutor Gavin panic because of the guitar was hilarious to me.
Also I love how he was basically more worried about said guitar than the murder
I didn't mind the repeated showing of the cutscene in Turnabout Serenade because of how frequently they showed Klavier freaking out over the burning guitar. Can't help feeling bad for the guy, but it's still funny to watch him flail like that. XD
Acro saves Big Top. He's the best character on JFA aside Shelly. Though the rest of the characters are really annoying.
acro is ok he's not a good character
Really you include Pearl in that of annoying characters and Engarde or Andrian?
Acro's personality was fine, but the actions he took were absolutely dumb. Why killing the daughter of a man he respects who was accidentaly responsible for his brother's death, not to mention he could have just talked to her? Killing Regina wouldn't have changed anything. I just can't feel any sympathy for Acro.
Acro was good...
But EVERYSINGLE one of the new characters on Fareway,my turnabout is better.
2 Are dead :v
Matt Engarde is hateful but when you bring him down is the most satifaing thing in the game...
And Adrian...
(I fucking cry'd when I finished the case,like a little girl :'v)
Leandro César Yeah I loved Acro. He was the first villain that made me cry.
I can see how you would despise 3-3. I love it, personally. iirc it was established that at least Godot knew that Phoenix was being impersonated, and considering that he was the only person to not flinch at all when dealing with Tigre while literally everyone else was cowering in terror, it would definitely make sense if at least the Judge and Bailiffs were intimidated into "believing" it was Wright. Same thing goes for everyone deciding Phoenix is full of shit until literally the end of the case. Doesn't really stitch the wound but it at least tries to tourniquet it.
I'm fully with you on how absurd it is that Machi was accused of all of that, however the purpose of the case is to demonstrate the whole "once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth" thing. Of everyone involved, Machi was the only person who could've been done it at the perceived time, because the Gavinners were on stage, Lamiroir couldn't fit through the vent, Trucy was in the crowd, and Apollo and Ema had alibis in that they were talking to each other while it happened in the next room over. However, I will admit that it would honestly make more sense at that point to assume it was done by some deranged fan, or Apollo and Ema had teamed up and were covering for each other than to assume that Machi did.
I know I’m late saying this, but just to rub salt in the wound with the games, the anime’s version of Turnabout Big Top got rid of the love story stuff and actually had more “family” moments especially towards the end when Phoenix enlists the circus’s help to portray Acro’s crime.
"It turns out that the phone guy was purple guy all along"
Well to be fair the dude is wearing purple. I'll let this unneeded yet funny FNAF joke slide not just cause I love FNAF though.
@@ick29 w h a t ?
In all fairness, the motive for Turnabout Big Top is sound. Acro basically tried to kill a spoiled brat who almost killed his brother and ruined both of their careers all for a prank, AND she didn't even acknowledge that she did anything wrong.
I never read Regina as a "spoiled brat". In fact, I personally read the case as implying that Regina has some form of developmental disorder. I mean, she doesn't act like someone who's a bit out of touch and doesn't understand the outside world very well. She acts more like a literal child. Phoenix even at one point questions if everything is "all right" with her in a situation where she doesn't seem to be emotional.
*Recipe For Turnabout isn’t bad at all (to me) I found it really enjoyable and entertaining.*
Same
I feel like the argument for T&T not having much impact on the series afterwards compared to the first game is because it’s a trilogy.
The original game stands on its own due to its expectation as a standalone game
Justice for All builds off of the original game with the developers having knowledge a third game was going to occur. Therefore they could set up for T&T
T&T was only followed up 3 years later by a game set 7 years after it with a new cast, and the second trilogy appears to follow a rule that they can’t follow up on characters or plot points from prior games for newer fans
I honestly think Recipe for Turnabout is the best third case in the series. It’s just so ridiculous that I can’t help but love it, and Tigre is actually a really cunning villain (minus how his plan depended on the judge being an idiot)
Serenade is so unbelievably frustrating because it has some really fun ideas. I like that Lamiroir is supposedly helping a blind kid but it actually being the opposite, I like that you have to pinpoint something suspicious in songs by breaking down each instrument, and I like that the defendant isn’t completely innocent and has to be charged with a different crime. But that’s only a sliver in a case that has to repeat itself constantly. The millisecond you solve everything, they bring up something already debunked and you have to cross examine again just to reiterate something that you finished explaining just before that. How could Lamiroir witness the crime if she can’t see? She heard a gunshot, and this proves it. Okay but what about the guitar on fire? You can see that it was planned, listen to this piano. I understand that but what about Lamiroir? She heard the gunshots? How? And so on
I actually liked the third case of justice for all. I liked all the characters, especially Acro. The story is very good, in my opinion. For the first time you can really feel the motivations of the killer
Wambu: And after hours of investigations, it turns out that the Phone Guy was the Purple Guy all along!
Me: The Mechanical Turnabout.
tfw you like 3 of these cases
Also I have one thing to say about Turnabout Sisters…..Why weren’t fingerprints taken? I know that it’s not really required but still they can be important. I could be wrong about this statement and what I’m about to say next, but why do Fingerprints only become important when it works against the played?
I wasn't expecting Turnabout Serenade to be on this list. When you explained your ranking for it, I nearly died laughing because I understood the logic but went with the accusation towards Machi for some reason. 🤣
My biggest issue with Turnabout Sisters is that it feels like it should be...grander. Redd White was this guy with incredible political influence that Mia died trying to uncover his crimes. If it was a later case, it would have had more oomph
I recently heard that the logical failings of case three of AJ are used to put a spotlight on how bad the legal system is
Say what you will about Monstrous Turnabout and how underwhelming and predictable it's killer was, Florent L'Belle's theme goes unreasonably fucking hard
I think it was more that Acro thought Regina wasn't taking what happened to Bat seriously, that he thought she didn't care about what happened to Bat.
Not just that, her cheerful and overly optimistic attitude towards that subject made Acro think Regina was mocking him or taking Bat's "death" as just a joke, and was a daily thing, so he grew to hate her more and more each passing day
The recently dubbed Ace Attorney Anime shows how good Turnabout Sisters could of been if it focused more on the impact Mia's death has and Red White as a villain.
3:24 OBJECTION!
You are correct about simon and the detective being introduced in the montrous turnabout. But Athena was introduced in the first case!
An Ace Attorney countdown, eh? I've made a couple of those.#5- I thought this was a pretty good case. Wouldn't make in it my Top 20, but would be somewhere in the 25 - 21 range. But this was a good case because 1 it introduced Maya, 2 it shows off the powers of the Kurain Channeling Technique, and 3 it shows why Mia became a Defense Attorney. Though Redd White is a pretty lousy villain mainly because he's built up to be this powerful guy, but he's taken down pretty easily for someone of that power. Besides, Turnabout Samurai was worse than this imo.#4- Eh, Cosmic Turnabout was worse imo, also, the 1st case introduced Athena, not this one. But you were probably trying to say it's the 1st case she was in chronologically. But you complaining about the killer being revealed at the beginning is odd since they've done it before, but I don't recall you saying anything about that. Redd White was done the same way, but you never said anything about him being revealed at the beginning is what I'm saying.#3- I personally loved this case BECAUSE of how stupid it was. I mean, I didn't mind doing all that stuff you said was a problem, and I just really enjoyed the characters in it because of the quirkiness they had. It was filler, but it kept me pretty entertained. Though, this case did establish Godot's inability to see red on a white background. Sure, they could have just done something with what they did in Case 5, but it also manages to develop Godot as a character some. Red on white thing, his ability to stay incredibly calm with a raging tiger, things like that. #2- I'll have to agree somewhat. The concept was kinda dumb, quite a few inconsistencies, but Daryan Crescene was a pretty good villain. The thing that saved this case from being the absolute worst case in Apollo Justice and possibly the series. He can't compete with Kristoph Gavin, no, but he's much better than Alita Tiala. But you shouldn't complain about him acting like a villain mid-case when others have done it.#1- I personally really don't hate this case. I guess I can get behind what you're saying, but I still like this case because, again, the quirks. Ben and Trilo where incredibly funny, Moe was there to deliver the bad jokes, and Acro, he deserves all the sympathy he should get. Like you said, what he did was an accident, and he meant to kill someone else. But, you still feel sorry for him because of all the shit he's been through. It's probably my least favorite case in the game, but again, I don't hate it like everyone else.Overall, this countdown was pretty good, a few things I'd work on, like wording yourself better. But still pretty alright. And I'd definitely like to see what your favorite cases are, and see if they measure up to mine. 'cuz my ace attorney opinion is the only ace attorney opinion 'cuz I did ace attorney month.
+randezzel27
#5. Yeah, since I like all the cases in the first game, it just came down to a matter of "Which am I the most indifferent towards?" That's kinda the problem with doing the 1 per game rule. I enjoyed Turnabout Samurai just a little more cause it was the first case that didn't feel super hand holding to me and I appreciated that. Basically Turnabout Sisters is fine, but I like the other ones in the game by just a bit.
#4. Yeah I definitely could have worded a lot of this entry better. I DID mean it was the first to introduce her chronologically. Also I wasn't necessarily trying to say revealing the killer at the beginning was bad. I was trying to say that knowing the mystery already is a pain when the investigations already feel more tedious then usual.
#3. You're definitely not the only one who feels that way about the case, so by all means have fun with it if it works for you ^-^ Every bone you've given it is valid, but for me personally, the whole thing was just frustrating.
#2. I still think this case is WAY worse then all the other ones in AJ. And I know other cases have had villains act evil mid-way, but with others, it seemed like they could at least manipulate the scene or people enough to pass themselves off as innocent. As opposed to Daryan who pretty much has all the evidence point to him, and yet the story needs to phone in a reason to almost let him go anyway. What I'm saying is I don't like how transparently guilty he makes himself.
#1. Moe annoyed me and I couldn't stand Ben and Trilo, personally XD But that's just all taste. As for Acro, I'll admit I came across as way too unsympathetic. I do feel genuine sympathy given his circumstance. I just don't sympathize with his motivation for murder (which I guess is inteded). Either way, I admit I was too harsh on the guy.
Thanks for watching my video, and thanks for taking the time to give me some feedback!
+Wambu do you use Steam?
Yes sir I do ^-^
+Wambu cool can you send me a friend request?
wow, WAMBU AND TURNABOUT RANDON ACTUALLY KBIWS EACH OTHER? PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO WITH EACH OTHER
"No Edgeworth cases..."
I mean, I don't think there was a single case that would have been a contender for this list to begin with.
Maybe The second, third, and or fifth from the first investigations game might be a contender (just one)
@@patrickgowen324 Compared to other final cases, I could see Turnabout Ablaze, but honestly I would have thought if any, Case I-4 would have been most likely to be chosen. But, even still, I felt like it was rather ok.
I personally don't think recipe for turnabout being so ridiculous is a bad thing. Ace attorney is already weird as hell, even the most grounded cases have weird shit. Stuff like the spirit channeling
The song number in Turnabout Serenade wouldn't be so tedious if you could actually HEAR the song, as opposed to having to read some cut-rate poetry while your DS makes noises at you.
And why'd you make it seem like you weren't going to go with "Turnabout Big Top" only to turn around and say "It's Turnabout Big Top"?
Because he wanted to go for a real...TURNABOUT.
*Ba-dum-TSSSS!*
Y'all know when someone has a theme they're the killer
I definitely agree on all of these. Especially 1. We've got the infuriating handicap against Moe, Ben and Trilo being super vague on the stand, Acro going way overboard (any sane person would've screamed at Regina and then called her dad over to talk/yell about treating death and mortality more seriously), and enough ways to get penalized to make Nick's head spin.
At least the Ace Attorney anime actually did a really good job covering Turnabout Big Top. I honestly liked the original case (I'm a sucker for a good circus theme, along with colorful characters metaphorical and literal) but I think they improved it a lot. By trimming down the more tedious moments they made room for more serious character moments, with special mention to the way they handled the final day in court. If you disliked the case in the game, I recommend watching the episodes to see the case done right.
1. Fully disagree... The case was actually cleverly put together... as the characters were very anti-social and awkward, it became very hard to discern who could've killed the victim. But when the accident was revealed about Bat, and Acro basically became appointed murderer by Phoenix immediately (as should be obvious), there was still no logical explanation of how he could've killed the victim, which was clever, because usually the method of killing is clear in just a few observations. I feel the characters were purposely annoying to throw you off, and the murderer was a lot more relate-able then any other murderer thus far in the series, to the point that a lot of murderers just felt really generic in comparison. I might be weird, but I feel that case is actually one of the BEST cases in the series... :-P
You understand me
"You see, it's actually SUPPOSED to be bad!"
...Great argument there.
Unshaved Malevolence It's like Turnabout Serenade
Guus van Voorst tbh, this case is depicted very well in the Phoenix Wright anime
I really liked the premise and the twists of Turbabout Big Top, what bugged me was the plot holes. The murder method was so horribly unreliable. And by that I don't mean that I disliked that the wrong person was killed, I agree with the video and thought that was an interesting deviation from the usual themes. Acro couldn't see what he was doing while committing the murder, which is why he didn't notice it was the ringmaster instead of Regina. Cool. But then how did he know exactly when to drop the bust? Even if (by stretching reality to its limits already) we assume he could tell by the "sounds" of trying to lift the box, whatever the hell that means, he couldn't even know if the person's head would be in the exact right spot. They could be in a different position, drag it from the side instead of lifting it. Even by just leaning slightly to one side they could only get scraped instead of hit dead on. It was such an unreliable method, it would have led to failure in 90% of cases, which would then lead to Acro most definitely getting caught right away. Not to mention the cape somehow getting snagged on the bust perfectly. Having played all of the ace attorney games, I am very much willing to accept some level of absurdity, but I feel like this case pushed it a bit too much. Still, I wouldn't call it the worst case personally.
Daryan honestly looks like he has a Pokemon on his head - that skunk one, I don't know what it's called in English.
+AzuroAqua
Skuntank XD
+Wambu i like both this and your faves Wambu. Nice job.
Wambu
Heh, yeah, that's the one I mean. xD The moment I saw him for the first time in the game I thought "why the heck do you wear a Pokemon on your head?"
+AzuroAqua he looks more like a shark besides the tip of his hair.
3:45 "ONE OF THEM ENDS UP DEAD"
1:00 I'm pretty sure if he included the spin-offs it would be mostly Edgeworth's games.
Although I haven't seen much Ace Attorney so this video might prove me wrong
9:04
I've been thinking about Recipie for Turnabout, and I totally think this rule applies to it. Recipie for Turnabout is the only case that dosen't contribute to Bridge to the Turnabout. Memories introduces Dahlia Hawthorne and an important part of Phoenix's past(and also Payne's), Stolen introduces Godot and introduces Larry's desire to change(without this, Bridge would have no Laurice Deaxnuim), and Begginings gives more detail on Dahlia. But Recipie is useless!
I laughed out loud on your transition to the circus case. That was pure gold.
Can't watch the Duel Destinies one! I'm only one the second case!
But I can't believe one of your least favorite cases is Turnabout Sisters! That was like, one of my all time favorites!
I too am on the second case!
A plot hole with turnabout sisters that seems I’m the only one who noticed is nobody finds it suspicious that two people who saw the murder form the same place said two people that look nothing alike committed the murder
I liked the third case in Apollo Justice...
Why? :3
So the reason why is 3?
I liked the third case just for lamiroir.
And in the fourth case I loved her more....
Weird, I played Apollo Justice just the other day and I loved the Turnabout Serenade case. Funny, that.
I thought the second case was a lot worse since the vibe of the investigation part just wasn't very exciting - I really liked the investigation of Turnabout Serenade - and the guilty party is a huge idiot and would've gotten away with the crime if they hadn't chosen to testify, which they did of their own volition instead of being dragged into court by Apollo. Plus the big twist of it was so easy to see coming and it took so long for the characters to put the dots together that it was annoying.
It wasn't stupid. They claimed to have asked Apollo to defend because they wanted a guilty verdict, which is reasonable considering Apollo was a rookie who had only won one case (thanks to shady evidence) and his mentor was considered to be a known forger. I mean, what else could you expect from the "Wright talent agency"?
@@santiagorodriguez2940
No no that part is fine. I'm talking about the second day of the trial. If they hadn't come to court, or just pleaded the fifth, they could've gotten away with it I think.
@@DementedDuskull they had to go to testify, remember hey almost got caught infiltrating meraktis room and they left the safe half-open. Had they not come to trial they'd have been under fire anyways because of the medical chart. Also Stickler's testimony had cast doubt on the case already, so it's not like they could simply wait it out
@@santiagorodriguez2940
Point taken, though the fact that they hire Apollo to get the defendant acquitted and then turn back on that on day two and try to get them found guilty was so suspicious and really ruined the tension of the remainder of the case. Before then, I didn't even really suspect the guilty party, but after that sudden turn, it just became obvious - same reason why Wambu doesn't like PSM, since he just halts your investigation out of nowhere because he's totally not the killer.
@@DementedDuskull You're missing the point. They didn't want the defendant acquitted, they wanted the defendant found guilty, and they hired apollo because they thought he would perform poorly and the verdict would indeed be guilty. Kinda like Tigre pretending to be the attorney so Maggey would be found guilty
If this was made after Spirit of Justice, Turnabout Storyteller would probably be on the list.
Well at least it breaks the third case is either filler or sucks curse.
..... Is that the fourth case?
+The Elephant yes.
+The Elephant also, just like dual destinies, it doesn't have third case syndrome. That was Rite Of Turnabout.
"Oh fuck, Athena's here too... Quick, give her a filler case!" I feel bad for Athena and how badly she got the shaft in this game. :(
Burst out laughing when you made the Purple Guy/Phone Guy joke! Very clever, I never even noticed L'Belle wore a purple suit!
Spoilers for case 4-3
No comments on the Lamoir cross examination in case 4-3? I spent HOURS trying to figure out what that woman meant when she said she "saw the murder through a window" so of course you look for a window... AIR VENT. SHE MEANT AIR VENT. I WANTED TO CRY.
+Morgan Taylor
Omg, I totally forgot about that XD Yeah that's pretty damn stupid.
+Morgan Taylor Lamiroir not Lamoir
+Nintendo Lover Ah, my bad.
I didnt think Turnabout Serenade was that bad.
Am I only one who preferred Recipe for Turnabout over The Stolen Turnabout?
I like how Turnabout Big Top and Recipe For Turnabout are pretty much shitposts. Just never take them seriously and they get much better
I like turnabout serenade and turnabout big top.
Like whatever ya like, man ^-^ No one (worth your time) here is gonna shame you for having a different opinion.
Wambu I know, just checking to see if I'm the only one. Then again, my favorite case in the series is Rise From the Ashes so I'm used to being in the minority. Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on that case?
Storm base reviews
Honestly, it was a contender on both my worst and my best list XD I have a love hate relationship with that case. The investigations are a lot of fun, and the trials are really cool, but it becomes so convoluted after a while. I still like it more than I dislike it though.
+Storm base reviews I love Rise from the Ashes too...a shame it didn't make it into the anime T_T
me to
wambu you are preaching to the choir, with the first case. I couldn't stop replaying the part at 2:42 I was laughing so hard! you summed it up perfectly
Wambu: I wanted to take this sparkly, smarmy, douchebag, and wreck. his. *SHIT.* but sadly I'm not gonna get the satisfaction of doing so
Doesn't turnabout big top get any points from he fact you can accuse the judge resulting in a hilarious moment (and possibly an instant game over)
wait you can accused the judge?
@@felineghost680 yes you can accuse the judge of hiding the murder weapon
This is why I love ace attorney xD
Recipe for Turnabout reminds of both Mario Sunshine and Sonic Adventure 2 in the way that both Mario and Sonic were also mistaken for culprits who look absolutely nothing like them and yet they still receive some form of consequence for their evil counterpart's actions. Mario is arrested and sentenced to clean up the entire island on his own and Sonic is forced to go on the run from the military police until he clears his name. And now we have someone who somehow managed to impersonate Phoenix despite looking absolutely NOTHING like him all because he wore a blue suit and had a paper badge.
And what's even more cringy is that characters constantly act as if it was still Phoenix despite them already knowing that the one of the last case was a phony such your own freaking client (Maggey) and even Maya. It made the case pretty painful to play for me. I know it was suppose to be some kind of recurring joke throughout the case, but it just made them look really stupid and incompetent.
I love Recipe for Turnabout, it's the second best case in TandT
2:48 Unless you play Ace Attorney Online and do one of those fan cases like Turnabout Bloodlines.
What I hated about Turnabout Sisters is that after all your hard work, you were on the verge of winning, and then Mia is like "hey here's a list read this out and you win bye" It just completely nullifies everything that happened before hand! WHY!?
Requirement for being an AA killer:
Your own theme song
Being a murderer
15:04 Because she wasn't... No! No! No! It wasn't just that!
**SPOILERS**
Acro tried to kill Regina because he KNEW she caused the incident. That's what the note was about!
I know that, but doesn't acro also say that he couldn't stand how carefree she was being about the whole thing?
+Wambu Yeah, that's why I said "It wasn't just that."
+SuperParkourio I thought that it was just her carefree attitude. I mean, he clearly knew that she caused the incident (or, at least, he blamed her for it). He probably could've dealt with it knowing she caused it if she respected it, but it was her carefree attitude that tipped him off.
"NOT everyone hates that case! I do, though." made me wheeze. 🤣
I absolutely hated Recipe for Turnabout. In addition to the reasons already mentioned in the video, the case ends with Phoenix bluffing information about an evidence to Tigre only by PURE LUCK that he would be fooled into talking about how the actual thing containing the poison looked like. It's such a weak and meaning "revelation".
Also, the suspense music plays at all the wrong moments, especially in that case. It's gotten me easily desensitized from what could be one of the most intense themes in the series because that thing would keep on playing when things get advantageous for Phoenix. The episode would have been so intriguing due to the Xin Eohp plot, but it's executed so poorly
First time I see your videos...and it's impressive.
It has personality, it has well structured criticism and a good mix of analysis and humor.
Earned a new sub here.
For the first game, I honestly HATE the 3rd case, TUrnabout Samurai. SOmething about it drives me insane every time I replay it.... I just hate it.
+Obsi The music for Turnabout Samurai was great. The Steel Samurai Theme was killer.
TERII YAKI i hate the characters they're so annoying
That case is annoying for me. If anything, that kid made things just worse for it (backtracking and his court testimony) besides the among of moving around and not knowing where the heck the new events unfold.
I personally liked turnabout samurai was good but that probably has to do with watching the anime, Cody’s speech is just.... amazing
oldbag really made me hate that case
So, you've done a Countdown of the best and worst Ace Attorney cases from each of the five games. Did a collab with Joshscorcher reviewing Spirit of Justice, AND at the same time, told us what you favorite and least favorite case is in that game. But what about the Great Ace Attorney Chronicles? Ever think of doing a video about that game?
I love how you're standing in the assistant spot, it feels like I'm in the middle of trial and you're just like; STOP, I gotta give you my opinion before we continue trial.
By the way, I really liked the way you used the save jingle from the respective game between the cases!
One thing I found strange in Recipe for Turnabout was Phoenix' reaction or lack thereof. I would think he would react a lot more aggressively to someone ruining his name. It's something he takes great pride in after all so I would imagine he would be pretty upset when someone ruins it.
The phone guy is actually the purple guy. Good joke man
Tecnically, Viola Cadaverini appear in other case in Miles Edgeworth Investigations
Quite literally finished your number one an hour before this was uploaded. I personally liked a lot of the twists it had, how you know the last character introduced will be the killer, yet he comes off as the only sane and calm one(the *birds*), and I did end up empathizing with the plight of a man in his position: that is, blaming someone who wasn't responsible by their intention, but by nature, and spending months in depression extended by his personal disability. Just the image of him rolling around in his room, oof. I even liked Moe since he didn't waste too much time before it became obvious he'd be stepping up in the group.
I guess I'm bias right now, what with no time to process and the fact that the ending has me hyped for the game's final case (EDGEWORTH!!), but yeah. I enjoyed what I saw, how you presented yourself, and one day, I'll come back and see what I skipped over. . . which was most, depressingly enough.
Thanks be to "Watch Later". :3
+SnivySomnia
Yeah, I get what you're saying actually. I didn't mean to imply that Acro wasn't worth having ANY sympathy towards. I sympathize with his circumstance but maybe not really his motivation. Admittedly he was probably the best part and even though I didn't like the case, I found myself getting more interested when he came in to the picture. Like I said in the beginning of the video, I see some redeeming factors in ALL the cases so if you enjoy it, then by all means enjoy it :3
Great list man, pretty big accomplishment. I'd say you were on the...top of your game today :p
Big Top was so bad that when I accidentally deleted my JFA save file in the middle of Farewell, My Turnabout, I didn't even have the energy to get back to that case. I just gave up and started Trials and Tribulations instead. I'll get there eventually... just not any time soon.
Basically my thoughts about Turnabout Big Top: 2:22
props for using things popular on youtube right now as jokes (purple guys joke) nice videos
+Slither2312
YES! I was waiting for someone to comment on that joke! X3
I still don’t get How phoenix is incapable of remenbering that mia bought the light stand recently,dure you worked in that place for at least a month do you have amnésia or something?
am i the only one who actually likes turnabout big top?
No
Nohrian Scum I do...
Was it really that bad?
The only problem I had with it was the bullshit towards the end.
s a m e
Gama in blue
I like it...
It turns out the phone guy was the purple guy all along!
My Opinion:
5. 5-2
4. 1-1
3. 3-3
2. 4-3
1. 2-3
3:44 this part always gets me giggling. I don't mean the murder, I mean...the Heavy.
The criticism for Turnabout Serenade is totally valid! But, I think the reason I ended up actually enjoying it more than the case before it was because the nature of the crime was so unique, and a lot of the cast was really likable. We get some humanization on Klavier's part, meet Lamiroir and Machi, see a concert. Heck, there's even some character development for Apollo, fighting tooth and nail against an unjust court system to uphold Mr. LeTouse's dying wish. Watching the video over and over again can be repetitive, but I don't think it's nearly as frustrating in Turnabout Serenade than it is in Rise from the Ashes. My biggest gripes are with Daryan, who was the obvious culprit and just a bad character altogether, and the police arresting a literal child who they believed to be blind for committing the murder based on circumstantial evidence that is pretty quickly proven to be faulty in court. But, I dunno, maybe I'm the crazy one lol
I'd like to believe that Turnabout Serenade was a statement on how in that particular case, common sense and logic had vanished from the courtroom; it not only showed the Judge's incompetence, but also his predispositioned bias to the prosecution. Just like in real life, sometimes...
*HOLD IT!*
(slams desk)
Turnabout Sisters was one of the best cases!
redd white was better in the anime
whats yo name
I find that the Turnabout Sisters one was quite fun but at the same time it was quite tedious, and like you said you don’t get much satisfaction at the end either