@@itsall_coming_down They were not shot from my understanding. Paperwork suggests they were murdered in a different manner using a different weapon. However, a gun was used to "kidnap" the girls to them to lead them "down the hill". A gun can be heard clicking (as if the hammer is being pulled back) in the video. I heard it on a True Crime channel as I've followed the case on there pretty much from the beginning.
There are thousands of cold cases buddy, it happens or maybe if you think the detectives are not doing there job, maybe you should go solve it if you think your better than them, which I highly doubt.
The way that community's law enforcement and prosecutors have handled this case makes me more than suspicious. Their incompetance and withholding of so much evidence that could've helped crack the case needs investigating in and of itself. I don't trust those people nor the fact they say they have the real killer at all.
@@kennethcurtis1856 Only problem is, Judge won't allow the defense to mention the other suspects that have way more against them than Mr. Allen. AND Judge is allowing Mr. Allen's "confessions" that he made when he was in the middle of a psychotic break - and gave false info during those "confessions" This whole case has been a disgrace. Abby & Libby deserve justice, not "well, someone's away for it"
I have followed this case for a very long time. It still baffles me to this very day how they were able to find the girls rather quickly but couldn't solve this case quickly especially with the audio, video, sketches and other evidence collected. I hope and pray the real answers and the truth comes out in this upcoming trial.
@@leahvogelsimpson how do you know that? Have you ever followed a case like this before? You'll hear things that you never thought they would have in the opening statements then through out the trial they will show you just how Allen did this. He is the guilty one this isn't the 1800s where they just arrest someone to get the case solved grow uo
I totally agree. The detectives truly blew it by not solving this within a year. They interviewed him almost immediately, he admitted to being there, said he was wearing the outfit he was photographed wearing (before he knew the video existed), fit the profile, etc etc etc… the detectives need to admit they royally screwed up if they took 5 years to confirm it was him:
PSA: he was in the middle of a psychotic break and eating his own shit when he made those confessions. He also "confessed" to killing his family and grandchildren - all very much alive. And just because he was there - which he doesn't deny - doesn't mean he's the killer. Look at the other suspects. There's WAY more against them than Allen... including an actual confession.
@@happycamper1372 If you looked at the legal filings about how the crime scene was, you'd know that this was not the case. Someone in a psychotic break would most likely have left a mess of a scene, not taken the time to dress one girl in the other's clothing, stage their bodies and scene a certain way, etc. These girls deserve actual justice, and the actual person(s) need to be put away.
They put him in a prison within a prison in solitary confinement before he has even been convicted. He was there for almost a year. That kind of isolation could drive anyone crazy. He was probably saying anything to get out of there
there not allowed to use the 3rd party defence one guy confessed alleg one said what would happen if u find my spit on one of the girls these interviews lost apt patty gave le abbeys bfriends dad as a suspect on his fbook he had similiar things that was at the crime scence the f on the tree. he looks similar to allen as well.
@@nevadatan7323that is a absolutely disgusting claim to a person you don't know and you have no proof of that allegation!! From what I understand he does not have any type of criminal background and was seen as a upstanding citizen in his community. The ONLY REASON THIS MAN IS GOING TO BE CONVICTED IS BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPT JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN IN INDIANA!! BUT WAIT.. the supreme Court will find that he was not given a fair trial and his conviction will be overturned!! But really what would that matter because people like you have ruined this INNOCENT MANS LIFE!!!
I think law enforcement has the right guy, despite the crazy theories out there. It was unfortunate there was a filing mistake that kept him unidentified for years. I think items and data collected during the search of his home will be damning.
@@kristinaschilling822Delphi is a small town with nothing to do, except go places like that. Everyone is always saying “kids need to get outside more, but at the same time they shame parents for allowing teens to be outside and enjoy nature. I’m not accusing you of sharing the parents, but I have seen a lot of it.
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously incorrect in many cases. I remember once on...Oprah...when a guy ran out and did a bunch of things everyone saw, like maybe snatching purses, and the eyewitness accounts of his appearance were wildly inaccurate.
So should the 2 very different looking sketches and the fact that LEOs said the younger looking sketch was the more accurate one. And the fact that several other people have damning evidence against them (Ron Logan, Brad holder, Elvis fields, etc.)
It is something you find in America but I have heard of them in Europe. There are other pagan groups that don't go down the same path as Odinism. I won't say more because all I know is hearsay and I am not anything like an expert. If you go digging you will likely find more information. No matter what, if this was some kind of sacrifice then the individual(s) were demented. I do ask if these girls were lured there because it does seem weird that thirteen year old girls would be wandering around this kind of terrain alone. I grew up in the city though so perhaps it is normal in a rural setting.
@@kristinaschilling822 Long time ago and a different time it could be. But things were different for everyone then so painting Norse people as distinct in this is malicious and hypocritical.
Something stinks in Delphi! Someone did this and I truly hope Richard Allen gets a fair and just trial. Seems too much has been screwed up from the get-go and continued down a path of incompetence. Judge Gull seems to not be in favor of a fair trial. Tax payers are footing this bill. Hopefully, those attending the trial continue to report facts and bring to light all that is going on behind the closed doors of a very shady situation. Justice for Abby and Libby!!!!
She was removed by the supreme Court for telling his lawyers the only reason cameras were there was because if they didn't step down she would ruin their reputations.
@@twinkletoes6290 it's called public records. It's not hard to find public records. The manuscript was released by the supreme court. You can literally read what was said. They factually removed her because of what she said. Right after for whatever reason she was in an intensive care unit. She tried forcing her friend as Allen's representation and not allow Allen his choice which is unconstitutional. She does not have the authority to take his rights. She would have to go through an actual process before accusing the lawyers of leaking photos. It was proven they didn't by the supreme Court.
This NEEDS to have live stream (or delayed). If not, it only ADDS to the speculation that this case has been handled wrong. ALL EYES need to be on this. I hope the state can rebuild our faith in our legal system by having cameras & transparency- as our system is meant to be.
@@kelleybunnyThis case would hardly be the circus the OJ Simpson trial or the Menedez brothers trial was…that’s a weak excuse not to have transparency. There’s a lot of fishy crap going on with this case
Completely agree it should be televised. I personally think all trials should be recorded, not only by a court reporter, but with video and audio as well. The public should always have access to view these trials. In this day and age it is ridiculous not to.
Am I the only one that finds it suspicious that the judge only allows things in the case there could be construed as guilt and doesn't allow anything that would provide allen with a defense? The judge and the people behind her should be investigated something isn't right 14:5614:5714:5815:0015:0315:04
If something shows a connection to the case, it’s allowed, but this defense team is simply throwing anything at the court. I wouldn’t be surprised if the try to blame Bigfoot.
I watched and listened to just about every video I can find on UA-cam about this case. From what I’ve heard and seen on them, that monster is guilty. Granted, there’s info I don’t know that will hopefully come out in court. But in my honest opinion, he did it.
I agree with you. What really did it for me was his voice on a FB video on a ski lift. His voice there and the voice on the tape recording taken on that fateful day to me, is the same.
I guess he is trying to pretend insanity. False confessions with wrong details. Wants people to think he was forced into confessing to get " reasonable doubt". Hope the jury doesn't buy it.
@@anotherfishinthesea8660 he admitted it while in the middle of a psychotic break. He admitted shooting them which never happened. He also admitted killing people who are still alive. This is why this trial should be televised. All the information needs to be shown in its entirety - not filtered through the media
I've been following this case as well. That definitely is Allan in, the video. I just hope, for justice. It's sad, that it's humans, that make a bridge look scary. The, scary things humans, do to others. The girls seemed excited, to have independence, and a monster, stole, their excitement. My heart goes out to the family and friends.
@@sherryputti7689 grab your best tinfoil hat and watch the shadow man Delphi series by @eyeofapophis888 and see for yourself. You just might learn something!
@@Jay00780 That TINY little man? I thought he did it, too, but it's becoming more than obvious that there's a LOT of corruption going on in regards to this case.
well.. i guess we will find out. but, so far he is the only person seen on video ..on that bridge. The audio was of a male voice who could be heard saying, “Guys, down the hill.” One of the girls can also be heard in the video, saying, “Gun.” and his wife said he confessed. it's not looking too good. and this town is pretty small..only around 3,000 ppl.
@@5GreenAcres who else, do we know, was at the scene of the crime, at the right time? Please remember, he put himself there, before he found out they had footage from Libby's phone, after that, he remained silent for how many years?
@@annereidy7981 people from that area have stated it's known to be a place where people target practice. So I imagine it's not odd to find multiple bullets in that area.
Im interested in this case, I feel for RA. I don’t know if they have arrested the right guy or if they just want to close the case. This trial will be interesting. Many people will be in the court room updating us so I will be watching.
Sending love, & hugs to the parents, family, and friends that have been libing through this chaos. I pray that they get the justice for Abby and Libby. ❤❤💔
Well these girls took a picture on their phone because he was probably following them and suspected something unusual, he was at the crime area and himself admitting what he wore matching the photo, then they find a gunshot shell matching his own gun found near the bodies, poor girls, I believe he did it have some remorse and admit it coward…!
The girls were not shot. What redrummer will leave a phone behind? Who ever it was redressed them. No way it was an accident the phone was left. Easy to take a bullet from RA's house and say it was near the victims. You do realize one of the police officers had an odinist son right? Following them???? He was in front of them walking towards them. I myself have taken pictures of odd people and laughed about it. That does not mean it was him (the property owner looks just like guy on the bridge too) You do realize he has been at a max security PRISON in solitary confinement right? He is losing his mind. He also confessed to redrumming his grandchildren and mother too. They broke his mind.
yes, there is pretty much evidence against him. now ppl might mention the hair..but, his lawyers only said hair found near the victims' bodies did not match Allen. but, that would not be odd. five years after their deaths, investigators executed a search warrant at Allen's home in Delphi on Oct. 13, 2022, and they recovered a blue Carhartt jacket, a SIG Sauer P226 .40-caliber semiautomatic handgun and a .40-caliber S&W cartridge in a "wooden keepsake box" from a dresser between two closets in Allen's bedroom, according to authorities. shooting does not require you to be close to a victim.
@@serious323 they found the jacket and guns in his house. Video from Libby's phone showed a man wearing a dark jacket and jeans on the trail. In an October 2022 interview, Allen told investigators that he wore jeans and a blue or black Carhartt jacket that day on the trail, and Allen's wife confirmed to police that he owns a blue Carhartt jacket. Allen allegedly confessed to the killings several times in a jail phone call with his wife in April 2023. In the probable cause affidavit used to charge Allen with two counts of murder, it is stated as fact, “(an) upsent . 40 round between the bodies of Victim 1 and Victim 2 was forensically determined to have been cycled through Richard Allen's Sig Sauer Model P226.”
@@kelleybunny oh no not common clothes. The hat would be telling but that was never found. They had to get the warrant in order to match the markings. His wife made that accusation way before April 2023. Plus if that were true they would have it on recording too at the jail. Weird how they don't have that. After killing the girls and moving them and then placing them in specific positions he just became really dumb and placed a bullet right between them ? Or for some reason tried shooting it after he killed them? The video shows a guy walking really slow so he doesn't miss his step on the bridge yet not one of those girls took off? Did they wait for him to get way too close? Two girls didn't ever try to escape one man that is overweight and unhealthy while they watched each other get tortured and killed? Sorry but once ya get stabbed I'm pretty sure you'd realize that the person is going to kill you and standing there isn't a likely choice. He had very little time for all that to happen. He does have an alibi that makes the time frame of all this very small.
@drugreen123 I live here in Indiana and been on top of the case from the beginning. Like I said, they don't have much evidence. Do your research. If you were paying attention, you'd know that 🤣 enjoy your day sister
Hope they got the right man it up in the air at this point justice needs be served in closer for the parent's but if this mans not guilty in sentenced to life in prison that be wrong too pray for justice for these two young ladys in there familys in friends this is a big impact not only the police in the pepole that had too see in put these girls in a bag would be devastating in these guys live with it everyday bless them all
All this about justice needs to be served,...if they convict allen and he is innocent, is justice served. Whenever some dude who has been in prison for like 30 years and they are finally exhonerated, was justice served in the beginning when they were convicted? No such thing as justice served. If someone kills a family member, and they convict someone but you are forever without a family member, that is not justice served, you dont get that family member back. Might get an animal put away, but justice served?
Well, when you chamber a round it leaves particular marks on the casing of the round. So...yes, a gun can and does leave marks on the casing of a round. That's how they matched it to his gun. I've shot, maintenanced, and trained others on handguns and large caliber weapons for years.
The sketches came from witnesses on the trail that day, not the video. Oddly enough, the police have said on multiple occasions that the “younger looking sketch” was the person they were looking for. The “older looking man sketch” is not accurate. Low and behold, the person they arrested looks absolutely NOTHING like the “younger sketch”
Great reporting! Can a voice analysis be done comparing Allen's voice ("down the hill") to the tape ? Could he have positioned their bodies in a specific way to throw culpability onto the Odinists?
Yes on the voice analysis but they are avoiding that for some odd reason. What was done to the girls in the time frame points to many people involved. They were tortured. Only one showed signs of being bound. I highly doubt they just stood there while he went back and forth harming them. No matter what one of them would have tried to run yet didn't. They were perfectly placed in the fools card position and in the as above so below position after death. One was fully clothed while the other was naked. They have not said if one was raped or not which would contain evidence. He is the third person to be charged for this murder and they end up wrong. Cops and security guards are willing to testify for him over the occult claims.
They manipulated, I mean “cleaned up” the video so that you could hear the words being said, so that might make it harder to do voice analysis on. People who heard the actual, unfiltered, audio have said you can not hear anything but “back ground noice”
Don’t forget that 2 of the prison guards had patches on their uniforms that said “In Odin we Trust” they were told to remove them. They’ve been holding them in a prison which is very different than a jail. An inmate was so troubled by his abuse, he wrote a letter to the judge. The judge not allowing the detectives who were on the case prior had the Odonist suspicion and there was a huge coverup. The judge is not allowing that evidence told to the jury. Allen was abused and very drugged when he confessed. I think the judge should recuse because she’s been unconstitutional and biased. I think the judge may be an Odinist.
And don’t forget, when the guards were told to remove the patches from their uniform, one of them got a tattoo on his face of an “odinite symbol). That is dedication.
Yes it's normal you have to expect the cost of housing, feeding and protecting the jury for 5weeks minimum. Then there's all these new witnesses they defense will want to call up last minute like the kline what not. That costs money to travel. Expert witnesses they will draft to try and pull in their theory
Who will pay for the appeal, that no doubt will come? This judge will not allow a fair trial. I guess it is she who should be paying for any subsequent appeals.
"Let the Shitshow Begin" - October 11, 2024 - The term kangaroo court refers to a court so removed from legal norms that it can no longer be considered fair or just. It often involves: Disregarding or distorting the principles of law and justice, Operating in an unauthorized, irresponsible, or irregular manner, Ignoring due process, Reaching predetermined conclusions, Being controlled in a way that makes a fair trial impossible. The term is a severe condemnation, typically used to describe judges involved in egregious miscarriages of justice. It originated in America between 1850 and 1855, likely likening a kangaroo’s jumping ability to a court that "jumps to conclusions" on a flimsy or invalid basis. With that in mind, let the spectacle begin. I honestly didn’t believe this trial would go forward, especially since once it starts, it opens the door for appeals. That means all of Judge Gull's unconstitutional rulings will be scrutinized, and she will be held accountable. I thought the state would push the case as far as possible-perhaps even selecting a jury-before dropping the charges after offering a plea deal, one that Richard Allen and his defense would outright refuse. Why else would the judge make such unjust decisions and biased rulings against a hardworking, law-abiding, taxpaying citizen of Carroll County and feel confident no one would question her? Oversight seems nonexistent. How can Richard Allen get a fair trial when nearly all of his constitutional rights have been violated up to this point? Judges are expected to be impartial, and while many lean toward the state, they don't usually do so publicly-or worse, so blatantly. Neither the prosecutor nor the judge were involved in the case back in 2017, making it seem like they’ve handpicked people to control this Carroll County "kangaroo court." It’s disturbing that, even in 2024, the rights afforded to all of us can be completely stripped away by someone in power who chooses to abuse that power at will. The state should be responsible for proving its case, not forcing the defense to prove their client’s innocence. Yet in this trial, it seems like the defense’s ability to prove innocence has been hamstrung, especially by not allowing third-party suspects-suspects who were also being investigated for the exact same crime that Richard Allen is now accused of. Richard Allen deserves better than this. More importantly, Abby and Libby deserve better. Justice in Indiana seems to have become just a word-a word used to frame an innocent man. Since 2017, it feels like the victims’ families, law enforcement, and even the city of Delphi have been profiting off the tragic deaths of those two girls. True justice-justice that is impartial, fair, and reasonable-means that both the accused and the accuser are given the right to a fair process and that any harm caused is rightfully addressed. If real justice can’t be achieved for Abby and Libby, then people should stop using their names in vain. Those girls didn’t deserve what happened to them, and the way their case has been handled by law enforcement feels like a bad joke. This case should remind everyone, including you and me, that constitutional rights can be violated outright, as has been done here in Indiana. Law enforcement officers take an oath and are held to higher standards than the rest of us. Yet in Carroll County, the abuse of power is out of control. ________________________________ My message expresses a deep frustration with what I perceive to be systemic injustices in the ongoing legal process concerning Richard Allen, as well as a broader condemnation of the justice system in Carroll County, Indiana. I outline various criticisms, ranging from judicial bias and unfair treatment of the defense, to larger concerns about constitutional rights being violated. The emotional weight behind this critique reflects a profound sense of betrayal-not only on behalf of Richard Allen, but also in terms of how the case involving the tragic deaths of Abby and Libby has been handled by both law enforcement and the courts. I argue that the legal system appears to be functioning in a "kangaroo court" manner, where outcomes seem predetermined, the principles of justice are ignored, and due process is disregarded. The idea that third-party suspects are being excluded, in my view, reinforces a sense of unfairness, as it limits the defense’s ability to present a full and robust argument in favor of their client. Additionally, the belief that the legal process is becoming more of a spectacle, with stakeholders exploiting the memory of the victims, adds to my disillusionment. My critique also touches on broader philosophical questions about justice, particularly how it should be impartial and ensure that no one’s rights are trampled, whether they are the accused or the accusers. I fear that the trial may become more about optics and power dynamics than about seeking true justice for the victims or the accused. "Directly to Supt. Carter and Lt. Holeman" - October 10, 2024 - ISP Superintendent Doug Carter and ISP Lieutenant Jerry Holeman, How much longer are you going to pretend that you didn’t completely mishandle this case? Even in the face of the truth, you continue to gaslight the public and act as though we are fools. The 136-page Memorandum is now part of public record, and no amount of denial will change that fact. When will you admit to your mistakes? Law enforcement rarely acknowledges failures, and it often takes decades before the truth comes out-when wrongfully convicted people are finally exonerated due to errors like using the wrong DNA. As two of the highest-ranking officers in Indiana, you should be ashamed. We understand that you won’t willingly discredit your agencies, but this time, the world is watching as you attempt to make Richard Allen the scapegoat for your own countless mistakes. When the full truth is revealed, I wonder which of you will be the first to unalive yourself. You both know, as does much of the public now, that Richard Allen is not the perpetrator. Not only is he completely innocent, but he has no involvement in the murders at all. When indictments start coming in for Carroll County, there will be many who lose their jobs and face charges. Setting up Officer Todd Click was another disgraceful move because he dared to go against the grain of the "good ol’ boys." Witnesses in the courtroom on March 18, 2024, saw how upset both of you were after hearing Click testify. Some even heard one of you mutter, “How did he get that?” Just days later, on March 24, 2024, Doug Carter promoted Jerry Holeman to Lieutenant, and by April 11, 2024, the investigation into Todd Click began. Coincidence? I think not. Doug Carter and Jerry Holeman, you are abusing your power and trying to frame an innocent family man for the murder of two girls based on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. I have faith that the 12 jurors who will oversee the Delphi case will see through your weak arguments. Judge Gull may be manipulating the situation, but these jurors are not puppets. They will not be fooled by the smoke and mirrors you present in your desperate attempt to convict Richard Allen. I have personally spoken to both of you, and everything you told me was full of obvious lies-lies that you may even be starting to believe yourselves. Doug and Jerry, I eagerly await the day Abby and Libby return to claim your souls for the injustice you’ve perpetuated. justiceforjonbenetramsey.blogspot.com/2023/09/delphi-murders-libby-abby.html
What about cell phone pings?? What about voice print analysis? How come no one recognized R.Allen's likeness to Popo's drawing? Even more, R.Allen's Family, especially wife & daughter? Family can recognize each other. Even good friends are able to recognize long time friends.. recognize the voice.
They manipulated, i mean “cleaned up” the video so that you can hear anything, so I am guessing that would make voice print analysis more difficult (but I will admit I don’t know a whole lot about voice print analysis)
My heart breaks for these families. I want them to know not only do they have their community behind them, they have their Country behind them. Justice will be served God, will see them thru.
There needs to be an appeal on this case so that RA gets an actual fair trial with a non-bias judge & in a non-tainted law enforcement jurisdiction. This is my opinion, but LE did not follow proper chain of custody for that ‘unspent bullet’, this man was immediately sent to a prison, which i may add Brian Kolburger (alleged Idaho 4 Killer) has received better treatment than Mr. Allen. In addition to that ALL evidence of Richard Allen’s original police interview and many more was lost, along with tons of other evidence lost. They have no real proof, but the state has kept him under the care of Odenist Correctional Officers. He had a severe mental break while in his cell due to physical and mental abuse while awaiting trial. Please keep in mind Mr. Allen has NOT been charged but has been treated most severely. In addition to all this the Judge is very bias & IMO likely operating under the treat of these Odenist that are infested inside the walls of this town. These girls deserve JUSTICE & their families & friends deserve the TRUTH. I think the original detectives were onto the truth back when this case occurred & I believe there are many very good honorable people who have worked on this case. However, I also believe there are people with changing faces working in places where they can operate in the shadows. IMO Richard Allen has been the selected fall guy because he most closely matches the actual guy the police think they have. I don’t believe RA has anything to do with it & that cult needs stopped! Rituals and blood sacrifices of animals is dangerous, but of young girls is much much darker and demonic. My heart goes out to their souls and their loved ones, because I fear there’s a puppet master in Delphi whose playing with very very dark supernatural sources & if the truth isn’t brought out and it gets buried then it will all get worse. This is all my opinions, but I’ve stated a lot of facts that for some reason wasn’t mentioned quite correctly in this video. Prayers for Delphi. Prayers for the grieving. Prayers for justice.
What's not fair? "We want entertainment I child murder case give ups odin" But they didn't meet the nexus for the 3rd party??? "We just started following give us some content waaaaah"
@@GibboFrank the judge was removed for threatening the lawyers and definitely going against the constitution. He was moved to a different facility and is doing better.
My question is this, idk if it was done but was a voice analysis done on the audio recording / recordings done that the police have on the phone found against Richard Allen's voice ?
I'm not saying he's innocent, but man... The evidence sounds weak. I havent taken a super deep dive into the case, so maybe I'm missing something. I hope the state has a lot more
I have had a play by play theory on this case every since they arrested the suspect, RA. The suspect (RA or another person or persons) approached the girls and presented a weapon and told the girls to go down the hill. It's also highly likely that the perp(s) immediately took the girls phones from them. I also suspect that the perpetrator(s) had trail cameras along that walking trail (they are probably long gone now back with the perp(s)). They would constantly monitor the cameras to see if opportunities to harm arose. After getting 'down the hill' and into the woods - one of the girls decided to call the hard-core assailants bluff and likely said something to the effect, "that's not even a real gun." This is when the assailant pulled back the top slide of the pistol, which caused one of the chambered rounds to come out flying and hit the ground. The hard-core perp then likely restated his threat to unalive the girls if they did not comply. This one act then put hard fear into the girls minds, and they made the decision to cautiously obey the perpetrator(s). After this, the perpetrator(s) then made the victims remove all their clothing and put them in separate areas - (one victim was forced to walkaway with the hard-core perp, while the other victim was forced to stay at the original 'down the hill' scene in the woods with perp #2). The perpetrators motive was absolutely s3xual. Any fool can see this. Though the perpetrator(s) wanted to grape the victims, the perp(s) had the wherewithal to not grape the victims because they would leave DNA evidence - a guaranteed slam dunk unalive penalty case. As such, I highly suspect that one of the perpetrator(s) (the hard-core one) took the victims undergarments, and master-DEbated at the scene while staring at one of the unclothed victims. If LE was super good, and did a methodical search from the outer perimeter of the scene inward - they likely could have collected a semen sample at the crime scene. One victim was unalived by one perpetrator, while the other victim was then unalived by the other perpetrator in separate areas. The hard-core perp then picked up his victim, put her over his shoulder, and carried her back to the original 'down the hill' scene in the woods. He then laid her down near her fellow now, deceased best friend. The perp(s) then shabbily dressed the victims in mismatched clothing and placed the facade of sticks upon their bodies to make it appear that spiritualists conducted the crime and left the scene. The perpetrators kept the victims undergarments as momentos; and this evidence, if found would hold all the DNA necessary to convict the savages of their crimes. I would bet that such a person would hide a trophy of such sadistic value in their attic, workshop, or in their work locker at the job. People wonder why were the victims unalived. Here's my theory - the perp(s) knew that the victims obtained pictures of them with their phones, prior to the incident. The hard-core perp likely showed his identifiable genitals to one of the victims, so that was also a risk. The perp(s) wanted the victims to be willing participants, but they did good and fought back as best as they could but ultimately the perp(s) won for now. That's just my theory, Not Facts - coming from a fmr fed side guy who dealt with a few cases. Prayers to the families of the victims for true healing ⚕, peace 🕊, and justice ⚖
Im a 66 yr old disabled woman and I do believe that I could easily make a podium for well under 70 thousand dollars. The price of this is more than gouging . Someone is making a bundle off of this case and they need to be held accountable for this steep pricing. If folks started bitching about these costs and truly investigating then possibly this type of scam would end. Why should the people of Delpi continue to be ripped off. This goes for most any case . Not just Delphi. They pretty much know they can charge a high price. Whos going to question it ?
I wonder what the pathologist has to say about : 1. The time of death 2. Manner of death 3. Location of death as compared to what ground samples are found on the bodies
You mean to tell me Richard Allens wife didnt recognise him as bridge guy? Didnt recognise his voice? Does she have immunity from testifying? Smh.. she is the answer if he is innocent or not!
She has proclaimed it is not him. She has proclaimed his innocence. The property owner looks just like guy on the bridge. He also looks like the sketch. The judge wont allow any of that to come out. The fix is in.
When a cartridge is loaded and chambered in a firearm unique and distinct patterns are basically etched or scratched into not only the actual bullet as if goes down the barrel after being fired but also the casing when it is first chambered and subsequently ejected, whether or not it was fired. Using allens gun they loaded, chambered and ejected a round then compared the markings his gun made to the markings on the cartridge found at the crime scene. They apparently matched
@@serious323 If the unspent cartridge at the scene was loaded and chambered and then ejected from allens gun then yes, they can forensically prove it to a degree of certainty.
@@HashCracker yeah but they definitely can't say it's part of the murders at all. I own guns and I am aware of forensics. They absolutely will look foolish trying to say he did all this other stuff and then carefully placed that bullet between the two bodies which had been moved and placed in specific positions. He's never said he never went to that area. Many repeatedly go to that area. Gun experts have already said it doesn't mean it's tied to the murders. Multiple reasons for his bullet to be there and other bullets and shells not tied to him or the murders are also in that area.
$2.1 million = $102.16 per person in as Carrol County had a population of 20,555 in 2022. Over 6 years = $17 per year per resident. Really not that expensive. Even if ballooned to $4mill, that’s still just over $35/resident/year.
Unbelievable that this happened in 2017 and the family still have no type of closure whatsoever. Despicable.
And a probable innocent man has gone through hell in prison for years with no trial. That is detestable.
They won't get justice by convicting an innocent man either. That is NOT justice.
Were they shot?? Haven’t kept up with this case. All these comments saying this guy is innocent??
@@itsall_coming_down They were not shot from my understanding. Paperwork suggests they were murdered in a different manner using a different weapon. However, a gun was used to "kidnap" the girls to them to lead them "down the hill". A gun can be heard clicking (as if the hammer is being pulled back) in the video. I heard it on a True Crime channel as I've followed the case on there pretty much from the beginning.
There are thousands of cold cases buddy, it happens or maybe if you think the detectives are not doing there job, maybe you should go solve it if you think your better than them, which I highly doubt.
The way that community's law enforcement and prosecutors have handled this case makes me more than suspicious. Their incompetance and withholding of so much evidence that could've helped crack the case needs investigating in and of itself. I don't trust those people nor the fact they say they have the real killer at all.
Yes. Two young girls are found murdered on Logans property and it takes a month to get a search warrant? I'd think they could get one that day.
It's beyond sickening! This has been a huge cover up from day ONE!!!
@@teresa8793Do you have a opinion on who killed them?
@@Nadine-u8oif I did, I'm not sharing it on social media. This trial will be decided on evidence, not my opinion or what I think.
@@kennethcurtis1856 Only problem is, Judge won't allow the defense to mention the other suspects that have way more against them than Mr. Allen. AND Judge is allowing Mr. Allen's "confessions" that he made when he was in the middle of a psychotic break - and gave false info during those "confessions"
This whole case has been a disgrace. Abby & Libby deserve justice, not "well, someone's away for it"
I have followed this case for a very long time. It still baffles me to this very day how they were able to find the girls rather quickly but couldn't solve this case quickly especially with the audio, video, sketches and other evidence collected. I hope and pray the real answers and the truth comes out in this upcoming trial.
Because A_S threw them off
Sadly it probably won't. They don't have any solid evidence on Allen but keep chugging along with this railroad job.
@@leahvogelsimpson how do you know that? Have you ever followed a case like this before? You'll hear things that you never thought they would have in the opening statements then through out the trial they will show you just how Allen did this.
He is the guilty one this isn't the 1800s where they just arrest someone to get the case solved grow uo
@@leahvogelsimpson THANK YOU!
I totally agree. The detectives truly blew it by not solving this within a year. They interviewed him almost immediately, he admitted to being there, said he was wearing the outfit he was photographed wearing (before he knew the video existed), fit the profile, etc etc etc… the detectives need to admit they royally screwed up if they took 5 years to confirm it was him:
Transparency needed in the court. ✌️
They’re all Freemasons - Satanists
I wish they didn't put in our heads that he said "Down the hill" because that's all I could hear
Excellent video of the Delphi story. Sad and wrong that it won't be televised.
PSA: Richard Allen confessed to multiple people, multiple times. And that coat is one he was seen in sitting in his car.
PSA: he was in the middle of a psychotic break and eating his own shit when he made those confessions. He also "confessed" to killing his family and grandchildren - all very much alive.
And just because he was there - which he doesn't deny - doesn't mean he's the killer. Look at the other suspects. There's WAY more against them than Allen... including an actual confession.
@@kay_el_eff I think it would take someone in a psychotic break to kill 2 innocent young girls walking on a trail.
@@happycamper1372 If you looked at the legal filings about how the crime scene was, you'd know that this was not the case. Someone in a psychotic break would most likely have left a mess of a scene, not taken the time to dress one girl in the other's clothing, stage their bodies and scene a certain way, etc. These girls deserve actual justice, and the actual person(s) need to be put away.
They put him in a prison within a prison in solitary confinement before he has even been convicted. He was there for almost a year. That kind of isolation could drive anyone crazy. He was probably saying anything to get out of there
Those jackets are extremely popular.
The whole case is 100% screwed up ! They desperately need cameras in the court room. Stop hiding everything from the public.
This isn't reality tv. The trial is still open to the general public to attend in person.
You want cameras so you can see the shit show get your ass down to delphi
there not allowed to use the 3rd party defence one guy confessed alleg one said what would happen if u find my spit on one of the girls these interviews lost apt patty gave le abbeys bfriends dad as a suspect on his fbook he had similiar things that was at the crime scence the f on the tree. he looks similar to allen as well.
@@mandy2117 defense required to provide sufficient evidence of their odinist human sacrifice ritual theory and failed to do so.
@@nemonucliosis there's like 10 seats for public attendance, if that.
Poor little baby girls ! My prayers to their friends and family still grieving. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😢😢😢
Cant wait for Ricks browsing history to be made public....
Absolutely wild how people bend over backwards to defend a chomo.
Will you be disappointed if nothing comes up?
@@nevadatan7323that is a absolutely disgusting claim to a person you don't know and you have no proof of that allegation!! From what I understand he does not have any type of criminal background and was seen as a upstanding citizen in his community. The ONLY REASON THIS MAN IS GOING TO BE CONVICTED IS BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPT JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN IN INDIANA!! BUT WAIT.. the supreme Court will find that he was not given a fair trial and his conviction will be overturned!! But really what would that matter because people like you have ruined this INNOCENT MANS LIFE!!!
The troll is even in here...twisted S.o.B
I think law enforcement has the right guy, despite the crazy theories out there. It was unfortunate there was a filing mistake that kept him unidentified for years. I think items and data collected during the search of his home will be damning.
That bridge is so creepy
Exactly..theres no way, i would drop off any kids ..there 😢😢😢
Exactly..Theres no way, that I would drop any, kids off there . 😢😢
Stand by me bridge 😂
They tore it down
@@kristinaschilling822Delphi is a small town with nothing to do, except go places like that. Everyone is always saying “kids need to get outside more, but at the same time they shame parents for allowing teens to be outside and enjoy nature. I’m not accusing you of sharing the parents, but I have seen a lot of it.
So many years have come to pass without justice.
This case really gets to me! I have granddaughters their ages. Prayers 🙏🙏🙏
Whoever was in charge of the sketches needs to be fired.
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously incorrect in many cases. I remember once on...Oprah...when a guy ran out and did a bunch of things everyone saw, like maybe snatching purses, and the eyewitness accounts of his appearance were wildly inaccurate.
"We suspect foul play" really?
How is it RA’s wife and daughter did not recognize Bridge Guy?
Odonites? This may be the dumbest defense theory I've ever heard.
For sure
@@marthawhitehouse9838 actually your government has noticed Odinism in many Aryan groups. It's not odd.
Guess you don’t know much about how disturbingly common it is in prison systems and small towns.
@@veronikalynn5084 it is very common. Too common.
They are actually somewhat prevalent in the area. I’m not saying they are involved, but it isn’t as crazy as it sounds
Judge Gull has shown bias in this case and should not be allowed to preside over this trial in my opinion
Justice for the girls.....whole thing unbelievable
THE ODIN CULT NEEDS TO BE ALLOWED TO BE BROUGHT IN COURT...THIS SHT IS CORRUPT
The fact they are hiding it, make the accusation seem more plausible.
So should the 2 very different looking sketches and the fact that LEOs said the younger looking sketch was the more accurate one. And the fact that several other people have damning evidence against them (Ron Logan, Brad holder, Elvis fields, etc.)
I live in Norway and I've studied Viking age at the University of Oslo - and I've never heard of "Odinism".
Its fantasy.
Exactly !! Im from Denmark, and THAT is NOT what our Mythology is about..😢
It's complete conspiracy nonsense invented by the defense for the tastes of the left.
It is something you find in America but I have heard of them in Europe. There are other pagan groups that don't go down the same path as Odinism. I won't say more because all I know is hearsay and I am not anything like an expert. If you go digging you will likely find more information. No matter what, if this was some kind of sacrifice then the individual(s) were demented. I do ask if these girls were lured there because it does seem weird that thirteen year old girls would be wandering around this kind of terrain alone. I grew up in the city though so perhaps it is normal in a rural setting.
@@kristinaschilling822 Long time ago and a different time it could be. But things were different for everyone then so painting Norse people as distinct in this is malicious and hypocritical.
This case needs a new judge.
You're just an NPC keyboard lawyer who thinks they know how the law and court system works but you and the 10 plebs who thumbed up don't.
You need a new hobby have you thought about meth
I'll drink to that
@@nemonucliosis everything on Allen is circumstantial so we'll just see.
Yes, although I believe any judge assigned to this case would be just as compromised and corrupt. The fix has been in from day one!!
14.48 is the exact image that shows he IS THE PERSON in the video
It looks just like one of the girl's boyfriends dad.
That second sketch caused so much confusion imo
This man will get rail roaded
Something stinks in Delphi! Someone did this and I truly hope Richard Allen gets a fair and just trial. Seems too much has been screwed up from the get-go and continued down a path of incompetence. Judge Gull seems to not be in favor of a fair trial. Tax payers are footing this bill. Hopefully, those attending the trial continue to report facts and bring to light all that is going on behind the closed doors of a very shady situation. Justice for Abby and Libby!!!!
Definitely have the wrong judge
She's bonkers!!! Very suspicious judge!! Surprised she doesn't tell jurors how to vote
She was removed by the supreme Court for telling his lawyers the only reason cameras were there was because if they didn't step down she would ruin their reputations.
@@serious323again, like I said in the replies of another comment, every single thing you’ve said in this comment is absolutely wrong.
@@twinkletoes6290 it's called public records. It's not hard to find public records. The manuscript was released by the supreme court. You can literally read what was said. They factually removed her because of what she said. Right after for whatever reason she was in an intensive care unit. She tried forcing her friend as Allen's representation and not allow Allen his choice which is unconstitutional. She does not have the authority to take his rights. She would have to go through an actual process before accusing the lawyers of leaking photos. It was proven they didn't by the supreme Court.
Cameras in the courtroom!
There WILL BE???
@@Sealust50 no, they dont even allow audio, no cells, no laptops, only notebooks. Its all a bit retro.
😂😂 yeah stuck in the past😂😂@@rosierosie62
Thank you.
This NEEDS to have live stream (or delayed). If not, it only ADDS to the speculation that this case has been handled wrong. ALL EYES need to be on this. I hope the state can rebuild our faith in our legal system by having cameras & transparency- as our system is meant to be.
no, it does not.. b/c he will have a jury and it can turn into a circus perhaps causing a mistrial.
@@kelleybunnyThis case would hardly be the circus the OJ Simpson trial or the Menedez brothers trial was…that’s a weak excuse not to have transparency. There’s a lot of fishy crap going on with this case
Completely agree it should be televised. I personally think all trials should be recorded, not only by a court reporter, but with video and audio as well. The public should always have access to view these trials. In this day and age it is ridiculous not to.
Am I the only one that finds it suspicious that the judge only allows things in the case there could be construed as guilt and doesn't allow anything that would provide allen with a defense? The judge and the people behind her should be investigated something isn't right 14:56 14:57 14:58 15:00 15:03 15:04
If something shows a connection to the case, it’s allowed, but this defense team is simply throwing anything at the court. I wouldn’t be surprised if the try to blame Bigfoot.
No, because they're railroading him.
EXTREMELY suspicious.
@@leahvogelsimpson He railroaded himself go make a fan club and cry together.
@@Jay00780that’s not how it works 😂
I watched and listened to just about every video I can find on UA-cam about this case. From what I’ve heard and seen on them, that monster is guilty. Granted, there’s info I don’t know that will hopefully come out in court. But in my honest opinion, he did it.
He did, and admitted it 61 times. He won't even look people in the eye. Little monster.
I agree with you. What really did it for me was his voice on a FB video on a ski lift. His voice there and the voice on the tape recording taken on that fateful day to me, is the same.
Yuck 😂 you have no idea what you’re talking about
I guess he is trying to pretend insanity. False confessions with wrong details. Wants people to think he was forced into confessing to get " reasonable doubt".
Hope the jury doesn't buy it.
@@anotherfishinthesea8660 he admitted it while in the middle of a psychotic break. He admitted shooting them which never happened. He also admitted killing people who are still alive.
This is why this trial should be televised. All the information needs to be shown in its entirety - not filtered through the media
Observation- all these men in this video being interviewed look like bridge guy
As do most men in rural Indiana, and they all own blue jeans and carheart coats.
Jury will be fixed too, everything else has been. Or they'll be intimidated and/or threatened.
Agree
Agree judge is corrupt
right lmao
for what? who do you think did it..or based on what you know..who else seems suspicious too you?
You guys are ridiculous and showing what nutcases you are.
I've been following this case as well. That definitely is Allan in, the video. I just hope, for justice. It's sad, that it's humans, that make a bridge look scary. The, scary things humans, do to others. The girls seemed excited, to have independence, and a monster, stole, their excitement. My heart goes out to the family and friends.
Shows how much you do NOT know about the bridge guy video. ITS FAKE
@@katherines9304your bleach blonde hair is fake (:
@@HockeyDudeJames2 what a burn! Ouch!
@@sherryputti7689 grab your best tinfoil hat and watch the shadow man Delphi series by @eyeofapophis888 and see for yourself. You just might learn something!
Something about this whole setup stinks to high heaven. I hope Allen and the girls get justice when the truth is uncovered
@@torchwoodbbc2023 🙏!
Idiot
They will get justice when he is found guilty and he will be found guilty. He did it.
@Jay00780 oh he did it? Does that mean you were there and witnessed him doing it?
@@Jay00780 That TINY little man? I thought he did it, too, but it's becoming more than obvious that there's a LOT of corruption going on in regards to this case.
My heart breaks for these families. I am so sad for their loss. May those two precious girls rest in peace. I hope justice will be served.
Something is not right with this case ? I hope they didn’t just grab someone just to get rid of the case!!
That is exactly what they did. The judge should step down from this case. The fix is in.
well.. i guess we will find out. but, so far he is the only person seen on video ..on that bridge. The audio was of a male voice who could be heard saying, “Guys, down the hill.” One of the girls can also be heard in the video, saying, “Gun.” and his wife said he confessed. it's not looking too good. and this town is pretty small..only around 3,000 ppl.
@@5GreenAcresgrow up.
That is exactly what happened.
@@5GreenAcres Why do you say that? Jews?
Horrible crime against 2 innocent kids
I hope justice comes to those girls and Allen gets what's coming to him.
yes RA is innocent and will get his freedom.
@@davidgray1515Hahahaha 😂🤣
@@davidgray1515hilarious bahahahaha 😂
I'm inclined to think that trying to get the bullet excluded just makes him look more guilty.
Just like omitting other key suspects makes him look more innocent right? Well, the judge won't allow that either. The fix is in.
@@5GreenAcres who else, do we know, was at the scene of the crime, at the right time? Please remember, he put himself there, before he found out they had footage from Libby's phone, after that, he remained silent for how many years?
Because people hunt there.
@@serious323 so, they found more than one bullet?
@@annereidy7981 people from that area have stated it's known to be a place where people target practice. So I imagine it's not odd to find multiple bullets in that area.
Don't you think it's unusual that the unspent bulletl was found at the site of the body's after the police unlawfully searched Alan's home
Yes! This is a dirty town with secrets they don’t want out!
That is incorrect. Thry didnt search allens home till he was near or already arrested.
That is 100% incorrect.
I believe that bullet was planted
The bullet was found the day of the finding of the bodies the defense admitted that
Im interested in this case, I feel for RA. I don’t know if they have arrested the right guy or if they just want to close the case. This trial will be interesting. Many people will be in the court room updating us so I will be watching.
I think more likely than not it was him. Need a bit before I’m beyond a reasonable doubt
They are knowingly railroading an innocent man!
@@teresa8793You are obsessed with the little monster. Get over it
I don't feel for that child killer. Justice for Abby and Libby and their families
@theresa8793
Ok Kathy, that's enough.
Sending love, & hugs to the parents, family, and friends that have been libing through this chaos. I pray that they get the justice for Abby and Libby. ❤❤💔
Well these girls took a picture on their phone because he was probably following them and suspected something unusual, he was at the crime area and himself admitting what he wore matching the photo, then they find a gunshot shell matching his own gun found near the bodies, poor girls, I believe he did it have some remorse and admit it coward…!
The girls were not shot. What redrummer will leave a phone behind? Who ever it was redressed them. No way it was an accident the phone was left. Easy to take a bullet from RA's house and say it was near the victims. You do realize one of the police officers had an odinist son right? Following them???? He was in front of them walking towards them. I myself have taken pictures of odd people and laughed about it. That does not mean it was him (the property owner looks just like guy on the bridge too) You do realize he has been at a max security PRISON in solitary confinement right? He is losing his mind. He also confessed to redrumming his grandchildren and mother too. They broke his mind.
yes, there is pretty much evidence against him. now ppl might mention the hair..but, his lawyers only said hair found near the victims' bodies did not match Allen. but, that would not be odd. five years after their deaths, investigators executed a search warrant at Allen's home in Delphi on Oct. 13, 2022, and they recovered a blue Carhartt jacket, a SIG Sauer P226 .40-caliber semiautomatic handgun and a .40-caliber S&W cartridge in a "wooden keepsake box" from a dresser between two closets in Allen's bedroom, according to authorities. shooting does not require you to be close to a victim.
He never admitted it was his same outfit at all.
@@serious323 they found the jacket and guns in his house. Video from Libby's phone showed a man wearing a dark jacket and jeans on the trail. In an October 2022 interview, Allen told investigators that he wore jeans and a blue or black Carhartt jacket that day on the trail, and Allen's wife confirmed to police that he owns a blue Carhartt jacket. Allen allegedly confessed to the killings several times in a jail phone call with his wife in April 2023. In the probable cause affidavit used to charge Allen with two counts of murder, it is stated as fact, “(an) upsent . 40 round between the bodies of Victim 1 and Victim 2 was forensically determined to have been cycled through Richard Allen's Sig Sauer Model P226.”
@@kelleybunny oh no not common clothes. The hat would be telling but that was never found. They had to get the warrant in order to match the markings. His wife made that accusation way before April 2023. Plus if that were true they would have it on recording too at the jail. Weird how they don't have that. After killing the girls and moving them and then placing them in specific positions he just became really dumb and placed a bullet right between them ? Or for some reason tried shooting it after he killed them? The video shows a guy walking really slow so he doesn't miss his step on the bridge yet not one of those girls took off? Did they wait for him to get way too close? Two girls didn't ever try to escape one man that is overweight and unhealthy while they watched each other get tortured and killed? Sorry but once ya get stabbed I'm pretty sure you'd realize that the person is going to kill you and standing there isn't a likely choice. He had very little time for all that to happen. He does have an alibi that makes the time frame of all this very small.
I don’t think that sketch looks like Richard Allen at all, nor the man on the bridge xx
Because it's not him.
@@teresa8793 exactly my thought x
Sounds NOTHING like him either.
Sketches are useless but that's Rick in the video and that's definitely his voice! Boom!
@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx Sounded just like him on facebook clip.
Idk, I feel like they don't have enough evidence on that guy
You don't know what evidence they have lmao
@Irob0t2113 based off the info in this video they don't have much or any. Keep up slow one
@@Chrishauniscummingthis video isn't discovery. Keep up slower one.
@drugreen123 I live here in Indiana and been on top of the case from the beginning. Like I said, they don't have much evidence. Do your research. If you were paying attention, you'd know that 🤣 enjoy your day sister
@@Chrishauniscumming aww. so adorable. shh now.
Hope they got the right man it up in the air at this point justice needs be served in closer for the parent's but if this mans not guilty in sentenced to life in prison that be wrong too pray for justice for these two young ladys in there familys in friends this is a big impact not only the police in the pepole that had too see in put these girls in a bag would be devastating in these guys live with it everyday bless them all
Punctuation dude. What you wrote was interesting but I got so tripped up
All this about justice needs to be served,...if they convict allen and he is innocent, is justice served.
Whenever some dude who has been in prison for like 30 years and they are finally exhonerated, was justice served in the beginning when they were convicted?
No such thing as justice served.
If someone kills a family member, and they convict someone but you are forever without a family member, that is not justice served, you dont get that family member back.
Might get an animal put away, but justice served?
@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx Oh go start a fan club so you can keep crying about your delusions.
Thanks buddy have a bless day@@DaniE_Legal
How can an unfired round be linked to a gun sounds like bs to me
A lot of experts say it can’t.
Well, when you chamber a round it leaves particular marks on the casing of the round. So...yes, a gun can and does leave marks on the casing of a round. That's how they matched it to his gun. I've shot, maintenanced, and trained others on handguns and large caliber weapons for years.
19k for a podium!!! 🤯🙄 ridiculous
The. Killer. Is. Free. Richerd. Incent
Them sketches are completely different 🤦🏻♀️ and how did they get such a detailed sketch from that blurred photo 🤦🏻♀️
The sketches came from witnesses on the trail that day, not the video. Oddly enough, the police have said on multiple occasions that the “younger looking sketch” was the person they were looking for. The “older looking man sketch” is not accurate. Low and behold, the person they arrested looks absolutely NOTHING like the “younger sketch”
Great reporting! Can a voice analysis be done comparing Allen's voice ("down the hill") to the tape ? Could he have positioned their bodies in a specific way to throw culpability onto the Odinists?
Yes on the voice analysis but they are avoiding that for some odd reason. What was done to the girls in the time frame points to many people involved. They were tortured. Only one showed signs of being bound. I highly doubt they just stood there while he went back and forth harming them. No matter what one of them would have tried to run yet didn't. They were perfectly placed in the fools card position and in the as above so below position after death. One was fully clothed while the other was naked. They have not said if one was raped or not which would contain evidence. He is the third person to be charged for this murder and they end up wrong. Cops and security guards are willing to testify for him over the occult claims.
They manipulated, I mean “cleaned up” the video so that you could hear the words being said, so that might make it harder to do voice analysis on. People who heard the actual, unfiltered, audio have said you can not hear anything but “back ground noice”
Huge cover up from day ONE
Something tells me you think every case is a "cover up"
@@Hell0Apollo33they are losers
@@Hell0Apollo33the cop was charged for mis conduct. I belive it
@scoobydoo8498 oh yeah what else do ya belive?
@@scoobydoo8498OK, what doss that prove? Was every single person involved in Investigating this case charged with misconduct.
Don’t forget that 2 of the prison guards had patches on their uniforms that said “In Odin we Trust” they were told to remove them. They’ve been holding them in a prison which is very different than a jail. An inmate was so troubled by his abuse, he wrote a letter to the judge. The judge not allowing the detectives who were on the case prior had the Odonist suspicion and there was a huge coverup. The judge is not allowing that evidence told to the jury. Allen was abused and very drugged when he confessed. I think the judge should recuse because she’s been unconstitutional and biased. I think the judge may be an Odinist.
And don’t forget, when the guards were told to remove the patches from their uniform, one of them got a tattoo on his face of an “odinite symbol). That is dedication.
I found your music on the end an episode of “The Rain” on Netflix Season 1 Episode 7. Very cool.
I’ve followed this case from the early days. I just pray that the truth is revealed during this trial. I just don’t know 😔
How did the cost of the trial skyrocket from 1 million to 4 million in just a couple weeks?? Is that normal for a high profile case?
Yes it's normal you have to expect the cost of housing, feeding and protecting the jury for 5weeks minimum.
Then there's all these new witnesses they defense will want to call up last minute like the kline what not. That costs money to travel. Expert witnesses they will draft to try and pull in their theory
@@GibboFrank yep. He's got a bunch of people including cops and security guards that will testify for him.
Who will pay for the appeal, that no doubt will come? This judge will not allow a fair trial. I guess it is she who should be paying for any subsequent appeals.
They got the wrong guy I think
Justice for Abby and Libby ! Fair trial for the defendant. Transparency for the people of the USA for the sake of truth and justice.
There is a hair in Abbys clenched hand and it IS NOT RAs.
"Let the Shitshow Begin"
- October 11, 2024 -
The term kangaroo court refers to a court so removed from legal norms that it can no longer be considered fair or just. It often involves:
Disregarding or distorting the principles of law and justice,
Operating in an unauthorized, irresponsible, or irregular manner,
Ignoring due process,
Reaching predetermined conclusions,
Being controlled in a way that makes a fair trial impossible.
The term is a severe condemnation, typically used to describe judges involved in egregious miscarriages of justice. It originated in America between 1850 and 1855, likely likening a kangaroo’s jumping ability to a court that "jumps to conclusions" on a flimsy or invalid basis.
With that in mind, let the spectacle begin. I honestly didn’t believe this trial would go forward, especially since once it starts, it opens the door for appeals. That means all of Judge Gull's unconstitutional rulings will be scrutinized, and she will be held accountable. I thought the state would push the case as far as possible-perhaps even selecting a jury-before dropping the charges after offering a plea deal, one that Richard Allen and his defense would outright refuse. Why else would the judge make such unjust decisions and biased rulings against a hardworking, law-abiding, taxpaying citizen of Carroll County and feel confident no one would question her? Oversight seems nonexistent.
How can Richard Allen get a fair trial when nearly all of his constitutional rights have been violated up to this point? Judges are expected to be impartial, and while many lean toward the state, they don't usually do so publicly-or worse, so blatantly.
Neither the prosecutor nor the judge were involved in the case back in 2017, making it seem like they’ve handpicked people to control this Carroll County "kangaroo court." It’s disturbing that, even in 2024, the rights afforded to all of us can be completely stripped away by someone in power who chooses to abuse that power at will. The state should be responsible for proving its case, not forcing the defense to prove their client’s innocence. Yet in this trial, it seems like the defense’s ability to prove innocence has been hamstrung, especially by not allowing third-party suspects-suspects who were also being investigated for the exact same crime that Richard Allen is now accused of.
Richard Allen deserves better than this. More importantly, Abby and Libby deserve better. Justice in Indiana seems to have become just a word-a word used to frame an innocent man. Since 2017, it feels like the victims’ families, law enforcement, and even the city of Delphi have been profiting off the tragic deaths of those two girls.
True justice-justice that is impartial, fair, and reasonable-means that both the accused and the accuser are given the right to a fair process and that any harm caused is rightfully addressed. If real justice can’t be achieved for Abby and Libby, then people should stop using their names in vain. Those girls didn’t deserve what happened to them, and the way their case has been handled by law enforcement feels like a bad joke.
This case should remind everyone, including you and me, that constitutional rights can be violated outright, as has been done here in Indiana. Law enforcement officers take an oath and are held to higher standards than the rest of us. Yet in Carroll County, the abuse of power is out of control.
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My message expresses a deep frustration with what I perceive to be systemic injustices in the ongoing legal process concerning Richard Allen, as well as a broader condemnation of the justice system in Carroll County, Indiana. I outline various criticisms, ranging from judicial bias and unfair treatment of the defense, to larger concerns about constitutional rights being violated. The emotional weight behind this critique reflects a profound sense of betrayal-not only on behalf of Richard Allen, but also in terms of how the case involving the tragic deaths of Abby and Libby has been handled by both law enforcement and the courts.
I argue that the legal system appears to be functioning in a "kangaroo court" manner, where outcomes seem predetermined, the principles of justice are ignored, and due process is disregarded. The idea that third-party suspects are being excluded, in my view, reinforces a sense of unfairness, as it limits the defense’s ability to present a full and robust argument in favor of their client. Additionally, the belief that the legal process is becoming more of a spectacle, with stakeholders exploiting the memory of the victims, adds to my disillusionment.
My critique also touches on broader philosophical questions about justice, particularly how it should be impartial and ensure that no one’s rights are trampled, whether they are the accused or the accusers. I fear that the trial may become more about optics and power dynamics than about seeking true justice for the victims or the accused.
"Directly to Supt. Carter and Lt. Holeman"
- October 10, 2024 -
ISP Superintendent Doug Carter and ISP Lieutenant Jerry Holeman,
How much longer are you going to pretend that you didn’t completely mishandle this case? Even in the face of the truth, you continue to gaslight the public and act as though we are fools. The 136-page Memorandum is now part of public record, and no amount of denial will change that fact.
When will you admit to your mistakes? Law enforcement rarely acknowledges failures, and it often takes decades before the truth comes out-when wrongfully convicted people are finally exonerated due to errors like using the wrong DNA. As two of the highest-ranking officers in Indiana, you should be ashamed. We understand that you won’t willingly discredit your agencies, but this time, the world is watching as you attempt to make Richard Allen the scapegoat for your own countless mistakes.
When the full truth is revealed, I wonder which of you will be the first to unalive yourself. You both know, as does much of the public now, that Richard Allen is not the perpetrator. Not only is he completely innocent, but he has no involvement in the murders at all. When indictments start coming in for Carroll County, there will be many who lose their jobs and face charges.
Setting up Officer Todd Click was another disgraceful move because he dared to go against the grain of the "good ol’ boys." Witnesses in the courtroom on March 18, 2024, saw how upset both of you were after hearing Click testify. Some even heard one of you mutter, “How did he get that?” Just days later, on March 24, 2024, Doug Carter promoted Jerry Holeman to Lieutenant, and by April 11, 2024, the investigation into Todd Click began. Coincidence? I think not.
Doug Carter and Jerry Holeman, you are abusing your power and trying to frame an innocent family man for the murder of two girls based on flimsy, circumstantial evidence. I have faith that the 12 jurors who will oversee the Delphi case will see through your weak arguments. Judge Gull may be manipulating the situation, but these jurors are not puppets. They will not be fooled by the smoke and mirrors you present in your desperate attempt to convict Richard Allen.
I have personally spoken to both of you, and everything you told me was full of obvious lies-lies that you may even be starting to believe yourselves. Doug and Jerry, I eagerly await the day Abby and Libby return to claim your souls for the injustice you’ve perpetuated. justiceforjonbenetramsey.blogspot.com/2023/09/delphi-murders-libby-abby.html
Look it's #CrimShady haha you loser look at you next month you become irrelevant
This. ALL of this.
Excellently written and totally agree
@@Kelly-wf5ie thanks Kelly
Ricky confessed 100 times.
We are all Richard Allen.
I feel very torn about this case. I’m not convinced of his guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt.
What about cell phone pings??
What about voice print analysis?
How come no one recognized R.Allen's likeness to Popo's drawing?
Even more, R.Allen's Family, especially wife & daughter? Family can recognize each other. Even good friends are able to recognize long time friends.. recognize the voice.
They manipulated, i mean “cleaned up” the video so that you can hear anything, so I am guessing that would make voice print analysis more difficult (but I will admit I don’t know a whole lot about voice print analysis)
My heart breaks for these families. I want them to know not only do they have their community behind them, they have their Country behind them. Justice will be served God, will see them thru.
There needs to be an appeal on this case so that RA gets an actual fair trial with a non-bias judge & in a non-tainted law enforcement jurisdiction. This is my opinion, but LE did not follow proper chain of custody for that ‘unspent bullet’, this man was immediately sent to a prison, which i may add Brian Kolburger (alleged Idaho 4 Killer) has received better treatment than Mr. Allen. In addition to that ALL evidence of Richard Allen’s original police interview and many more was lost, along with tons of other evidence lost. They have no real proof, but the state has kept him under the care of Odenist Correctional Officers. He had a severe mental break while in his cell due to physical and mental abuse while awaiting trial. Please keep in mind Mr. Allen has NOT been charged but has been treated most severely. In addition to all this the Judge is very bias & IMO likely operating under the treat of these Odenist that are infested inside the walls of this town. These girls deserve JUSTICE & their families & friends deserve the TRUTH. I think the original detectives were onto the truth back when this case occurred & I believe there are many very good honorable people who have worked on this case. However, I also believe there are people with changing faces working in places where they can operate in the shadows. IMO Richard Allen has been the selected fall guy because he most closely matches the actual guy the police think they have. I don’t believe RA has anything to do with it & that cult needs stopped! Rituals and blood sacrifices of animals is dangerous, but of young girls is much much darker and demonic. My heart goes out to their souls and their loved ones, because I fear there’s a puppet master in Delphi whose playing with very very dark supernatural sources & if the truth isn’t brought out and it gets buried then it will all get worse. This is all my opinions, but I’ve stated a lot of facts that for some reason wasn’t mentioned quite correctly in this video. Prayers for Delphi. Prayers for the grieving. Prayers for justice.
What's not fair?
"We want entertainment I child murder case give ups odin"
But they didn't meet the nexus for the 3rd party???
"We just started following give us some content waaaaah"
@@GibboFrank the judge was removed for threatening the lawyers and definitely going against the constitution. He was moved to a different facility and is doing better.
They can’t appeal until he is found guilty (if he is found guilty) but I’m sure they will!
That bridge is dangerous + that is crazy
to much reasonable doubt if all the evidence were permitted in the trial. Richard Allen has not been treated fairly. I’ve been following it
The poor families 😢😢😢😢
4K to help the prosecutor to prep for trial….🙄😤ridiculous
My dad has a jacket like that
My question is this, idk if it was done but was a voice analysis done on the audio recording / recordings done that the police have on the phone found against Richard Allen's voice ?
I'm not saying he's innocent, but man... The evidence sounds weak. I havent taken a super deep dive into the case, so maybe I'm missing something. I hope the state has a lot more
Down the hill voice sounds like an older man
Its terrible that after 7years we can't watch the trial. I wish they would have court tape it and realease after court each day
It just seems that this is a matter of railroading a suspect in order to sweep away a horrific crime.
LE bungled this investigation AND continues TO FK this case….
I never have believed that Allen is guilty.
I have had a play by play theory on this case every since they arrested the suspect, RA.
The suspect (RA or another person or persons) approached the girls and presented a weapon and told the girls to go down the hill. It's also highly likely that the perp(s) immediately took the girls phones from them. I also suspect that the perpetrator(s) had trail cameras along that walking trail (they are probably long gone now back with the perp(s)). They would constantly monitor the cameras to see if opportunities to harm arose.
After getting 'down the hill' and into the woods - one of the girls decided to call the hard-core assailants bluff and likely said something to the effect, "that's not even a real gun." This is when the assailant pulled back the top slide of the pistol, which caused one of the chambered rounds to come out flying and hit the ground. The hard-core perp then likely restated his threat to unalive the girls if they did not comply. This one act then put hard fear into the girls minds, and they made the decision to cautiously obey the perpetrator(s).
After this, the perpetrator(s) then made the victims remove all their clothing and put them in separate areas - (one victim was forced to walkaway with the hard-core perp, while the other victim was forced to stay at the original 'down the hill' scene in the woods with perp #2). The perpetrators motive was absolutely s3xual. Any fool can see this. Though the perpetrator(s) wanted to grape the victims, the perp(s) had the wherewithal to not grape the victims because they would leave DNA evidence - a guaranteed slam dunk unalive penalty case. As such, I highly suspect that one of the perpetrator(s) (the hard-core one) took the victims undergarments, and master-DEbated at the scene while staring at one of the unclothed victims. If LE was super good, and did a methodical search from the outer perimeter of the scene inward - they likely could have collected a semen sample at the crime scene.
One victim was unalived by one perpetrator, while the other victim was then unalived by the other perpetrator in separate areas. The hard-core perp then picked up his victim, put her over his shoulder, and carried her back to the original 'down the hill' scene in the woods. He then laid her down near her fellow now, deceased best friend. The perp(s) then shabbily dressed the victims in mismatched clothing and placed the facade of sticks upon their bodies to make it appear that spiritualists conducted the crime and left the scene.
The perpetrators kept the victims undergarments as momentos; and this evidence, if found would hold all the DNA necessary to convict the savages of their crimes. I would bet that such a person would hide a trophy of such sadistic value in their attic, workshop, or in their work locker at the job.
People wonder why were the victims unalived. Here's my theory - the perp(s) knew that the victims obtained pictures of them with their phones, prior to the incident. The hard-core perp likely showed his identifiable genitals to one of the victims, so that was also a risk. The perp(s) wanted the victims to be willing participants, but they did good and fought back as best as they could but ultimately the perp(s) won for now.
That's just my theory, Not Facts - coming from a fmr fed side guy who dealt with a few cases. Prayers to the families of the victims for true healing ⚕, peace 🕊, and justice ⚖
At the time that this happened they predicted that it was someone that was close 😌😢hope they get it right 😢❤!!!
Allen is a patsy .
What evidence are you basing that proclamation on?
Yeah he was probably part of that fruity club that sacrificed them and now hes taking one for the team
Lol
Im a 66 yr old disabled woman and I do believe that I could easily make a podium for well under 70 thousand dollars.
The price of this is more than gouging . Someone is making a bundle off of this case and they need to be held accountable for this steep pricing.
If folks started bitching about these costs and truly investigating then possibly this type of scam would end. Why should the people of Delpi continue to be ripped off. This goes for most any case . Not just Delphi. They pretty much know they can charge a high price. Whos going to question it ?
Dont know how the hell they came up with that 2nd sketch.
He didnt even look young !.
so sad prayers to the familys
I want Justice for those beautiful girls, it’s been too long but this case is very sketchy.
Nothing sketchy at all the defense are just playing up to tamper with the jury opinion
I wonder what the pathologist has to say about :
1. The time of death
2. Manner of death
3. Location of death as compared to what ground samples are found on the bodies
Is bridge guy wearing a hat? Or is that just his hair?
Any photos of Richard Allen within 6 months of the murder?
Hope these girls get justice
nearly bald.. always nearly bald!
Tweed cap
You mean to tell me Richard Allens wife didnt recognise him as bridge guy? Didnt recognise his voice? Does she have immunity from testifying? Smh.. she is the answer if he is innocent or not!
Thats not his voice.
Kathy knows, she immediately sold the house for cash and moved! Daughter hasn't spoken to him since the arrest. Daddy boy was on meds his whole life.
No wife can be forced to testify against her husband
@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx That is his voice.
She has proclaimed it is not him. She has proclaimed his innocence. The property owner looks just like guy on the bridge. He also looks like the sketch. The judge wont allow any of that to come out. The fix is in.
Be patient. They claim he confessed on the phone. Everything is recorded.
There’s a reason things are being withheld……. Let’s just be respectful for the families and let the jury decide.
That is Kathy's cry remember you tried your best.
Not the right guy mike patty has more stuff against him than Richard Allen
Listen to yourself man that's a disgusting thing to say.
such as?
Poor baby girls. 🕯️✨🕯️
I met this judge over 10 years ago
I'm so sorry for you!!!
Why did he kill them.
Good question! (If he did)
My question is how can the connect a unspent bullet (one that has not been shot) to a gun? Unless he had a box of the exact bullets at his house.
When a cartridge is loaded and chambered in a firearm unique and distinct patterns are basically etched or scratched into not only the actual bullet as if goes down the barrel after being fired but also the casing when it is first chambered and subsequently ejected, whether or not it was fired. Using allens gun they loaded, chambered and ejected a round then compared the markings his gun made to the markings on the cartridge found at the crime scene. They apparently matched
They can't.
@@serious323 If the unspent cartridge at the scene was loaded and chambered and then ejected from allens gun then yes, they can forensically prove it to a degree of certainty.
@@HashCracker yeah but they definitely can't say it's part of the murders at all. I own guns and I am aware of forensics. They absolutely will look foolish trying to say he did all this other stuff and then carefully placed that bullet between the two bodies which had been moved and placed in specific positions. He's never said he never went to that area. Many repeatedly go to that area. Gun experts have already said it doesn't mean it's tied to the murders. Multiple reasons for his bullet to be there and other bullets and shells not tied to him or the murders are also in that area.
Can’t they just borrow some of the equipment like the special podium and barricades? They’ll never be used in that courthouse again.
$2.1 million = $102.16 per person in as Carrol County had a population of 20,555 in 2022. Over 6 years = $17 per year per resident. Really not that expensive. Even if ballooned to $4mill, that’s still just over $35/resident/year.