Is Pakistan's National Anthem in Persian? - Pakistan's Identity Crisis - Shehzad Ghias -
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Why was Persian used for Pakistan's National Anthem?
Today we explore Pakistan's Identity Crisis and what Pakistan thought of the National Anthem when it was launched in 1954 using Ali Usman Qasmi's book, "Quom, Mulk, Sultanat"
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What could have been Pakistan’s National Anthem
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We should have just adopted Sohni Dharti as the national anthem at some point. It has all the fittings of a good anthem and doesn't follow the boring orchestra model that the current one does.
@@ThePakistanExperience
Pakistan ka qomi tarana sirf tarana nahi bulk un pure jazbat ki alamat hy Jo hr aik pakistani ki pakistan sy belos mohabbat ko zahir krta hy aap ny daikha ho ga jab qomi tarana parha jata hy to rongtay kharay ho jatay hain ye kafiat kisi or national anthem sy nahi ubharti sohni dharti milli naghma hy tarana or naghma main farq hota hy national anthem ko utna hi unique or pure hona chahiay jasa hamara hy.
Guys doesn't matter what base of urdu , it just superior to any subcontinent language because every Bollywood and Bangladesh industry use the title of movie of urdu words
True. Humy books parna chahye. History ki philosophy ki. 🫡
Very strange comment. The National Anthem should be in Urdu and not Farsi. Farsi is the official language of Iran. Please check the map Iran is not in Pakistan
I'm a Saraiki speaker and we used Sanskrit words therefore it is easy for me to understand Hindi than Urdu. Nowadays educated people don't want their children to learn Saraiki. EVEN if they learn Saraiki they learn an Urdu version of Saraiki where many Sanskrit words are replaced with Persian words. I think it's because my grandparents spoke Shudh/KHAKIS Saraiki, and we learned most from them.
Saraiki is actually Sauviraki, your land in Hindu mythology is " Sindhu Sauveera Desha" your forefathers were vedic Sanatani Hindus, which you refuse to accept.
@@Kalyan458 even if they were hindus, why does it matter now? should we start chanting "gay hind" just because our forefathers were delusional? i don't understand this logic of hindus that just because your forefathers were indian/hindus you should be too.
P.S: don't get me started on your wrong description of Saraiki.
@@an_orange8911 yeah your forefathers were delusional and you are clear minded, that's why your country is begging in front of world. 😂😂😂 The thing is you guys got brainwashed cause of chuslam, and your forefathers were atleast brave enough to question god while you can't even point out wrong things in that stupid book.
The sweetest language…
Saraiki
@Kalyan458 so?😂 still don't give a fuck😂
Pakistani identity crises.
National anthem - Iran.
National Language - Uttar Pradesh.
On currency - turkish flag.
Names - Arab.
Religion - Abrahamic.
Heroes - Cental Asian.
Stadium - Libyan.
Mosque - Saudi.
Missiles - Afghan.
Father of Nation - Gujrati/Kutchchi
Nett result - poor attempt at being Not Indian.
Aur p@jeet
@@alokbalsekar but at last due to Pakistan's Identity crisis and their hysterical attempts गाँllllllड फटि है Indians कि
Tru Dat!!
@@Proud_Indian007 must be fun to call richer, more educated and more advanced people than you names, Faujeet - given that your accomplishments in 75 years are exactly zero.
Perfectly described 😂
If pakistan had got freedom today -
National anthem - In Turkish
After rollover of billions of dollars - In Chinese 🇨🇳
In chinese
@@gulleyboy2607 haha, will add that
And how about India?
Would it be in Ram-Raj Hindu state
@@lanoklom9697 what do you mean, India already has national anthem and its in Indian Languages, that the point.
Pakistani itna jahil hai ki jo log iska purboj ko mara tha...unke streeoko apamanit kiya tha... dharma ko Ronda tha us ideology ko aj follow karte hai
Pakistanis-
Ancestry- First Arab,then Irani and now Turkish
Tribe- Jatt,Gujjar,Kashmiri
Official language - Urdu(Language from Lucknow)
National anthem - persian
Thank you so much sir for the information😊
Urdu is a Deccan language.
😂😂😂 while Indians are killing all north indian languages in the name of SO CALLED URDU COPIED SANSKRIT MIXED named hindi
Reporting to UK
Religion from Arabia
I think it's high time to make ertugal gazi title track as Pakistan national anthem 🤣🤣🤣
That tang tang tang tata instrumental music 😂😂
Urdu is not the language of Pakistan; it’s the language of UP-Bihar.
If I were Quaid-e-Azam, I would have named Pakistan "West India."
Exactly said
There is already a West Indies it would have been unfair to those.😂😂...South Indies or central Indies is some what considerable...
Or Islamic Republic of India.
@@thehussansiddiqui The West Indies is not a country, fool. It’s just a group of Caribbean islands that play cricket, which is why the West Indies don’t have a national anthem.
@@DFW_Man without Islam 😂
Many people don’t know but a large part of Persian (Farsi) language is derived from Middle/Old Persian which is a sister language of Sanskrit.
Urdu is the language of Uttar pradesh and bihar of India 😅...God knows what on earth made punjabis and sindhis take up urdu as their language..it's insane !!
majority of urdu poets belonged to punjab. like faiz,iqbal,majaz,nasir kazmi, etc etc.. all of them belonged to prepartitione british india..
@@muhammadali7028It's the standard Urdu writers list in a Pakistani context. In India, Urdu literature and legacy are more ancient and probably more extensive.
I'm not knowledgeable about Urdu literature, but you can also add Mirza Ghalib and Prem Chand in the Great Authors list of Urdu literature (from an Indian perspective). And sure there are plenty of great Urdu writers from the Ganga-Jamuni Belt as well from Deccan. It's just, I suppose, they aren't in the school curriculum of most Pakistanis, and are unfortunately not looked much in India.
@@muhammadali7028 acha?? Mirza galib, amir khusrou, abdur rahim khani khana, inme se knsa punjabi tha??
@@anubhavgangwar1383 1st read original comment then read my pov
@@muhammadali7028you know....In early hindi literature.....All poems were written in Brajabhasha😅 which is a language of Mathura, Aligarh, Bharatpur in UP-Rajasthan. Infact Guru Gobind singh ji, a punjabi speaker had written many poems and as it was a poetic language.... People across the hindi belt use this language for their literary mannerisms. But they don't adopt Brajabhasha as their language😅😅😅. Urdu is a language developed in fauzi chhawni. It's was widely spoken in UP, Bihar, MP, Delhi and hyderabad with some distinct pronunciation😅😅. You Pakistanis speak urdu in such a hilarious way😂😂 I can't tell😂😂, Mashook as Mshook, Masoom as Msum...And list goes on. Actually, tumhen hamesha yahi batya gaya ki tum is mitti ke ho hi nhi... To grassroots languages as pashto, punjabi, sindhi tumhari ho hi nhi sakti thin....😂😂😂
How dare you, sir? Aaj day National language Persian hai! We are Turks now! Urtagul nay jinnah ko special email kia tha for this.
🤣
@@ThePakistanExperiencemake as much fun you want , it's not gonna change india k Ganda khoon se koi relate nahi karna cahe ga
@@notofyourneed5728Rahega vahi Khoon 😂😂ab tu Ganda kahe ya pure ...
In reality Indians have purest blood in term of ancestry other than any community ..no region has history of more 2500 years ..but indian has
👍😂😂😂😂😂
@@notofyourneed5728Bhai khoon kaise gand hota hai?? India main mitti milate hai kiya khoon main and pakistan main saboon se dho kar rakhte hai??
after 77 years you are still figuring out what language is your national anthem is?
Confusion hi confusion hai solution ka kuch pata nhi😂
Says the country who even after 77 years is still trying to figure out its name
India or Bharat ??
🤭🤭🤭🤭
@@striker7625 India and Bharat both are official names of our country. Article 1 of Indian constitution is "India that is Bharat".
@@amscrt nope India was the official name of your country which was changed into bharat a few months ago
@@striker7625 sources- WhatsApp university.😂
I reality nothing has been changed.
dude woke up and chose TRUTH👏
😎
Seriously one of the very few on internet at least who has the guts to call spade a spade. Respect and love to you brother.
Jo bhi but urdu is much more superior to Sanskrit which is dying language, and we should be proud of urdu because half the Indian speaks urdu only they don't know it@@ThePakistanExperience
@@notofyourneed5728lol Urdu is superior to Sanskrit…..
Sanskrit is one of the first languages known to Man and is mother to many other languages including Urdu, Kashmiri, Marathi, Gujarati etc etc etc and regions ie south east Asia, South Asia, Tibet, China , Japan and Korea
It’s related to Greek and Latin with similarity in phonetics, grammar and script.
Have some sense of proportion.. with no disrespect to Urdu which has its own place and is a descendent of Sanskrit … no language in the world can be superior to Sanskrit.
@@notofyourneed5728urdu is literally bastardised hindi. and on top of that its also indian language 😂
I think we in balochistan just thought we didn't know urdu well enough. 😅 phew.
🤣
You're not alone. Most folks in India who have heard the Pakistani anthem felt that way too. 😂
@@TamBramThankyouMamPakistanis cannot understand Indian national anthem either ….. except for Punjab Sindh Gujarat Maratha….. but again why Sindh?
@@mohsinafzaal7159 National anthem was composed before independence.
@@mohsinafzaal7159
Jana gana mana written in 1911 by Gurudev who passed away in 1941
We have a slot for sindhi on our state TV Mumbai... we also hear farsi from our parsi neighbors....
Now contrast how proudly Indians sing "Chak De" at international sporting events, a song written in Punjabi!!
Punjabi is not alian language to India !
@@PM13501 Thats the difference, we embraced all our religional language. You will see lot of Punjabis, Biharis etc dancing to Tamil songs even though they have no clue on the lyrics. India is basically what entire South Asia should have been. ie A nation of nations, one big umbrella under which hunderds of proud cultures express themselves with pride.
@@junaid_2107even nepali is one of the official languages in India. One recent indian song which went viral called "timro pratiksa" is also in nepali. Another viral Indian song in recent times was " pao ki jutti" which was in rajasthani and another viral song from India circulating now is " Asa kooda" which is in Tamil.
@@Judah_889 tamil is classical language equivalent to sanskrit and well develop litt. also developed film industry
Rajasthani- Braj langauge is Taught properly under hindi grammer as Hindi is made from it. Meerbai sung songs in Braj/rajsthani all are classics.
But Nepali wasnt that mainstream but it is part of indian langauges
@@Judah_889😂 Nepali is one of the official language of india and state language of Sikkim and regional language of Gorkhaland, West Bengal
There are one of the biggest nepali tribes living in India even in Army too Gorkha regiment ❤
Even in India, our national song, Vande Mataram, is in Sanskrit.
Most people dont know the meaning of
Sujalaam, Sufalaam, Malayaj Sheetlaam.
But the emotional connection to this song is stronger than the meaning.
Sirf english medium valo ko samaj nahi aati
@@adityabhale4970 achha bhai 🙏
@@tanmayneha8802 so did they convert it into tamil or any other south languages too?
What are you talking? Vande Mataram is in Bengali, of course it has bit of Sanskrit element but it is in BENGALI..
@@muhammadali7028 our national anthem and national song both are in Bengali, not Sanskrit.
It doesn't need to be converted because Bengali is language of our soil, not a foreign language like Persian. If we can learn English why can't we learn translation of few Bengali words.
Sanskrit -> Sauraseni Prakrit -> Hindvi -> Rekhta (Hindavi+Persian)-> Hindi/Urdu/Hindustani
This timeline is the linguistic evolution of Hindi/Urdu, believe it or not..
Total Wrong analysis
@@shanuyok615 its not Analysis …its linguistic studied facts
@@biswanathmahapatra8441 hindi and hindvi itself are arabic words
You just studied what someone written down based on their limited knowledge and biases not Facts
@@biswanathmahapatra8441true
@@shanuyok615
Tumko main "dheet anpadh" Bolna toh nahin chahta tha.. lekin tumne koyee chara nahin rakha..
Gaddafi stadium, Faisal Mosque, Kasim port, Abdali missile, the list goes on and on....
💯
gouri missile, faislabaad, arabic in schools, borrowed language urdu, identity crisis arabian, persian, turkish nd so on...😅😅😅
Naya ghar Mai jayge to abbu ko abbu nhi bolenge😂😂😂
Bolenge nhi nhi hamare abbu ye wale nhi wo to Istanbul mai hain 😂😂😂😂
Bhai un logon nay paisay day kay banwai hain yah jagah. Ghauri and qasim port yeah different hosakta tha but not the other two
Famous train Khushal Khan khattak ✌️
As a nation, from day 1 we are confused. Our rulers were always colonials (they still are). I've never understood the concept of independence as independence due to religion is a big lie, which has worked well for creating an extremist country. Our colonial rulers being colonials have thought of some languages being better than the others (arabic, persion, urdu, now its english). We can observe the same effect in our country, if a person speaks english, his opinion is given more weightage, based on a language, however I can convey the same in several other languages but it doesn't matter. Being the product of the colonial language, we are also the same, speaking english since one has become fluent and it comes naturally is fine, but its seen as a status, english speaking people are educated. The concept of a single uniting language is so absurd, given the fact that the subcontinent was a culture having a very large number of sub cultures, each unique having their own set of tradations, language, events etc (unlike the land of colonials whether we consider US, or european countries). Unfortunately, the languages have diminished over time, as a Sindhi I was taught sindhi in grade 4, but had to learn urdu from day 1 of school (it brought me 0 benefit). A confused state, yet seeking the reason of its existence after 78 years of independence.
Only capitalists got Independence from British remaining public lives like they used to live before.
You wrote wonderfully well. You summarised the Pakistan identity crisis perfectly. Well done. Not sure though that 99% of Pakistanis will confer with your views.
100% Correct!!!
Blame Jinnah. He was the one who said Urdu is a Muslim language and tried to impose it on Bengalis.
Many countries like Australia have modified their National Anthem so it's no big deal if Pakistan includes words from Urdu, Sindhi, Punjabi and Pashto. I think that would make people feel more connected and patriot.
Yes
Bhai yahan Jhey log isko bhi Islam ka naam pe kuch ker dein gey. Rehnay de 🫸🫷 meray nahi tou emoji k jury hath daikh le
@@ThePakistanExperience excellent opportunity to choose a rabindra nath tagore poem for the anthem of Pakistan.
@@AbhayPeshin You want Shehzad to pick an anthem for Pakistan? He will be disappeared by morning.
maybe add 1 stanza for each of the major 4 provinces great poets
Sanskrit me ek word hota hai
Bharta (bhai)
Punjabi me ek word hota hai Bhraa (bhai)
Afghanistan me word hota hai Biradar (bhai)
English me ek word hota hai Brother (bhai)
Iran brader
@@KP97197 भ्राता श्री
ये तो सही होगा फुफा जी???????
अब मैंने ब्रा नहीं लिखा 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Jahil Afghanistan Mai nahi hota Afghanistan koi ethnicity language nahi hai pashto Mai Ror boltey hai pashtun majority pakistani 🇵🇰 hotay hai Afghanistan Mai pashtuns Kai ilawa bhi bohot ethnicities hai
So the people of Central Asia are the keepers of Sanskrit, the people who invaded Bharat and called local population Shudras
@@tnemeganam1 Bakwas!
Sindh me Nai bal nahi kat te hinduo k
Sind me hotel vale hinduo k liye alag bartan
Bahar rakh te hai.aaj bhi.
Lekin bharat ab bahut aage nikal chuka hai
Aise vardaat kahi par dikhai nahi deti.
Saudi Arabia me school education me Ramayan or Geeta Suru kar di gai
Central Asia bhi sudhar raha hai lekin
Najayaj aulad ka khoon garmi hai
Saria me kanoon sakth taki Islamist ki garmi kabu kar sake
No language belongs to Muslims, be it Arabic , persian, or Turkish, because languages existed before Islam came into existence. Urdu is not an independent language but a mixture of sanskrit, hindi, Arabic, persian ,and may be some turkish.
Agreed…..it’s a mixture of so many languages including Persian, the national anthem of Pakistan is heavily Persianized but still Urdu! Before partition we use to speak Hindustani which is a mixture of Hindi and Urdu, after partition we Pakistanis started moving more towards Persian and Arabic and the Indian towards Hindi/Sanskrit but Bollywood still uses Hindustani but call it Hindi. If you listen to Mr Modi’s speeches he uses Hindi. Ghandi Ji used Hindustani….listen to Indian TV news and Pakistani TV news you will see the difference but for common man on the streets is still Hindustani but the way of writing is different……but this debate is going on for a very long time so I am going leave this right here! I live in USA and we Indians and Pakistanis understand each others, Indian will think he is speaking Hindi and Pakistani will think he is speaking Urdu…..very interesting 🤨
@@mohsinafzaal7159 but actually both using hindustani language(Hindi,Urdu) urdu is more influenced by persian while hindi is influenced by Sanskrit thats why we dont get any problem to understand each other.
All languages evolve from other languages and borrow from other languages. It’s natural.
It is true for all languages. Languages belong to regions and are social construct. Just like Sanskrit that belongs to the Aryans of Central Asia and now proclaimed by the invaders from that region to subjugate the native Indian people called Shudras.
@tnemeganam1 thousands of years ago, the whole of earth was one with no political boundaries, no kings, no rulers, no passport, and no visas. People were nomadic, and the economy was dependent on domestic animals, no agriculture. So you can not say they were invaders. It is your expression of anger against our telling of Islamic invaders. But you forget that you are not an invader but convert from Arians.
Faisal Warraich has said when other countries split , they kept their names - East Germany , North Korea , Taiwan is officially Republic of China .
Pakistan split with not just a new name but also from it's Indian origins
West India sounds good tbh
par phir to west Indies ki team bhi na hoti 😂😂
@@rohanrajput_9west Indies is not one country tho
You are comparing Apples with Oranges. East Germany, North Korea and Taiwan claim(d) officially the land they were/are split off from and they acknowledge(d) it to be a temporary situation. Pakistan's and India's split is Permanent and there has been no plan to reunite. So Pakistan can pursue a different narrative for their nationhood.
@@nawoxare5194 but it's an artificial border created by a Britisher. At the time of partition , many people didn't even know whether their cities , towns or villages would be part of India or pakistan .
And what is the identity , the history of pakistan ?
Most pakistani are descendants of Hindus who converted to Islam .
Even the two founders of pakistan , Iqbal and Jinnah , had Hindu ancestors .
You never know,split may not be permanent@@nawoxare5194
Irony
He used the word “Jalandhari” for his name, of course a part of Punjab that wasn’t a part of Pakistan the moment he was mocking the language of Jalandhar and was writing this “National” anthem with no representation of the local ethnicities.
Bajwa
I am from Bangladesh. This video came out of blue to me newsfeed. It looked interesting, i started watching, kept watching and watched to the end. Enjoyed it a lot!
Urdu and Bangladesh 😅
@@zet99darius87 people in Bangladesh watch indian tv shows and understand hindi with ease. Urdu as you know isn’t much different. Though i didn’t understand some words here and there, it wasn’t difficult to guess the meaning from the context.
@@zet99darius87 Forced imposition of Urdu played an important part in creation of Bangladesh
@@vineetdeorari8017 5th august 2024 hmmm
@@muhammadali7028 whatever gives you happiness buddy 🤣🤣 it’s a historical fact
The national language is Urdu which is from India, the national anthem is Persian, the national emblem contains jute which grows in Bangladesh, the national currency is Rupees which is from Rupya (silver)in Sanskrit, the DNA says that 99% of the population are identical to the people of India and South Asia, the national religion is Islam which is from Arab and so on and so forth. Genuine identity crisis!!😂
Pak - istan ....istan is sanskrit word
As an Nepali, let me tell you some shocking news, Pakistanis are very beautiful people. 90% Indians extremely u##y.
You Pa jeet with 27%Aryan Ancestry 😂
@@tnemeganam1Oh, it was a mistake. If Nepal's border was adjacent to Pakistan or Bangladesh, then you would have known what kind of people they are like. The entire demography would have changed by now. 😅😂
As someone knows both Urdu and Persian, the Pakistani national anthem when sing by Pakistanis, sounds like Urdu or Hindi. Though when a Persian speaker read the Pakistani national anthem, he may understand nearly all of it.
The only sentence in National anthem would be “Pāk Sarzamin Kā Nishān”. Even though Pāk, Sarzamin and Nishān are Persian words, the “Kā” makes it Urdu.
Ka is sanskirit
You’re right
100% Persian.
Yes
,😂😂@@pramodsharma8826
It's in Urdu dude
Bhai main translate kar deta Hun . Yeh Urdu hai old version galib wali urdu
@@packagestechtv7887 Old version of galib wali urdu was derived from Persian
All grammar of Urdu is same as Hindi, Punjabi, Gujarati, Marathi...
It Means it's 80% same as Hindi. Because Grammar is the foundation of any language.
All these languages are derived from SANSKRIT.
SANSKRIT IS MOTHER LANGUAGE OF ALL INDIAN LANGUAGES.
It is Arabic Grammar, please correct yourself.
@@tnemeganam1I want to go there. chal isey urdu me,hindi me,aur arabic me translate kar. dekhein kahan hsin arabic 😂
Except Tamil
All Indian languages derived from Sanskrit 😊
@@tnemeganam1lmao 😂bade funny ho tum
It’s inspired by Persians words but its still your national anthem, so be proud of it . There is no harm in knowing the history behind it .
Persian was the language of invaders. Most Pakistanis think they are Arabs, Central Asian, Mongolian or Iranian
😂😂😂 while Upper castes hindu also invaded India
@@RR-nc1uqha ha 🤣😂
@@RR-nc1uqif yes...then your parents were monkeys😂😂😂...
@@RR-nc1uqSindhu sauvira janpada till Suleiman mountain people 😊
fact Hindus in the vicinity of Pakistan is their living past, which they are denying vehemently.
What Pakistanis say about their pre-islamic ancestry:
All those whose title is Sheikh are Arabs: The fact is that all Sheiks are either converted from Kashmiri Pundits or from Khatris like Saigols.
All those with title of Mirza are descendants of Mughals: This is only partly true, as most of the Rajput converts and even non converts were given the title of Mirza like Mirza Raja Jai Singh.
All those with the titles of Saiyyad are true descendants of Mohammad: This is mostly fake. People took this title to extract respect from common folk. Although there are some true Saiyyads , The first Saiyyad in Sindh married local Sindhi Hindu girls(As per Kitab ul Hind by Al Beruni) thus even the true Saiyyads have local Hindu blood from mother side.
All those with the title of Awans are Arabs: While the first census of India was being carried out in 1870, the british officers find it very difficult to distinguish Awans from Hindu Rajputs as their customs were astonishingly similar to Hindu Rajputs. The current effort on the part of Awans to align with Arabs is for the same purpose as elicited at point 3. Dilip Kumar(Yusuf Khan) the film actor is Awan.
All Arains are also Arabs: Till Jia ul Haq usurped the throne of Pakistan, Arains were comfortable with their Hindu ancestry. They were and are vegetable growers and gardeners. With Jia’s elevation, Arains suddenly became Arab for obvious reasons.
All with the title of Janjua are Arabs: In Suleman mountain, coins of Maldev Janjua has been discovered. This is a matter of Shame for Janjuas rather than pride as they have framed themselves up as Arabs.
All with the title of Wattu are Arabs: They are infact Rajputs but prefer to call themselves as descendant of Arabs but shy away at the proposal of DNA test.
Khokhars: Khokhars call themselves descendents of Arabs but actually they are related to Jats, Hindu Khokhars created havoc in the Army of Mahmud Ghajnavi when Jaipal attacked Ghajni to take it back in around 980-990 AD. Hindu Khokhars killed Shahabuddin Ghori on the right bank of Indus near Attock in 1203 AD. There are still some Hindu Khokhars in India.
All with the title of Khan/ Pathan are actually Pakhtun and all Pakhtuns are Afghans and all Afghans are the lost tribes of Bani Afghana of Israel: The theory was promulgated in the medieval era but is refuted by DNA test. Some Pathan as told in the beginning are recent converts from Rajputs. Afghans have some Tadjik elements also. Pashto is an Indo-Iranic language and is not related to semitic language. According to Farishta, Afghans including Pakhtuns were Hindus and Pagans before their conversion to Islam. Muhammad Ghorí’s great grandfather Shansban was Buddhist. Similarly Tigin Shahis were turks and were Buddhists before converting to Islam.
Khan is the title of adopted by any noble Hindu convert to Islam , some times even barbers also used this title after conversion. However every Khan wants to identify with Pakhtuns.
All Ansaris are those Madinites who helped Muhammad in Madina: Ansaris in the Indian subcontinent are converts from weaver community of Hindus. They took this title as a semblance of respectability. They are still in the job of stitching, weaving and tailoring.
All Quraishis are those Quraishi clan to which Muhammad himself belong to: Qureshis in India are converts from Hindu Butchers or Kasabs. They took this title for the same reason of respectability , It was a clan decision to convert and clan decision to take this title.
However there are Jats , Rajputs, Gurjars , Khatris, Kashmiri Pundits and Ahirs in Pakistan who acknowledge their Hindu Past. They proudly keep their titles as Bajwa, Randhawa, Johia, Tomar, Deol, Rathore, Chauhan, Minhas, Salaria, Salathia, Shan, Rana, Raja, Satti, Bhutto, Lohani, Bhatti, Jadoun, Sumra, Samma, Sasan, Ghil, Maan, Gujjar, Katariya, Khatana, Kapur, Kohli, Sethi, Saigol, Bahal, Kakar, Khatri, Bhat, Rao, Rangher.
Some Pakhtuns’ title like Sarwani, Shahbani, Shahukhel, Kakar,Khosa, Bamzai, Karzai, Sadozai, Barakzai, Mahmand, Suri, Khattak, Afridi, Shermankhel, Mahsud, Lodi have in themselves definite Hindu and even Greek connotations. Greek historians Plini, Strabo and Sanskrit Grammarian Panini has thrown some light on the people living in what is now Khaibar Pakhtunkhwah. Also with little linguistic retrospection above tribes might be previously known as Suryavanshi, Shahvanshi, Shahkul, Kakar, Khosa, Vam, Kar, Sat, Varak or Virk, Mahamand(Or great Mand: Mand was a Shaka tribe), Sri, Shatak, Aparitai (Greek tribe), Srimankul, Mahashudra(Shudra was not a non Aryan tribe, rather Alexendar fought with Kshudraks a warrior tribe, Sud is still the title of Khatris of Punjab who are upper caste), Lydoi(A Greek tribe). Thus we can infer that these tribes originated from Hindu or Greek ancestors even the Yusufzais call themselves as Isap in their own gatherings, this Isap is the same as Aspesians who under their queen Kripi gave brilliant resistance to Macedonians under Alexendar the great in Massaga(some where near Peshawar) sometime in 327BC. Kripi in Greek sources is mentioned as Kleophis.
Kalash kafir people of the Chitral and Hunza still worship Mahadev and Yimraj and follow a primitive Vedic religion. Only 2000 left now as rest are converted by abduction of girls and forcibly conversion of men. They were masters of a province of Kafiristan in north east Afghanistan till 1896.
In brief, some 20% of Pakistanis are estimated to be from Turkish/Afghan/Mughal/Arab origins and rest 80% of purely indigenous. Among these 80% , mostly they were Hindus or a mix of Hindus, Buddhists, Animists and Zoroastrians and Jainism at the same time. Even in the remaining 20% there is substantial proportion of Hindu blood from mother side
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lohana
All Sikh gurus were Khatri themselves
Jinnah was vaishnavite lohana with surname thakkar which comes from takkar province of Afghanistan
Alama Iqbal was kashmiri pandit or saraswat Brahmin with surname saproo
Liaquat alis wife was converted Brahmin into Christianity and later into islam
Malik gafur was hindu converted to Islam
Birbal was saraswat Brahmin Mahesh das bhatt
And list goes on and on and on
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whereas sindhi kutchi are sibling languages
Sindhi : tunjo nalo cha aye( what is your name)
توهان جو نالو ڇا آهي
Kutchi : tunjo nalo koro aye( what’s is your name)
Now they got separated from each other after partition
Memoni language is a mixture of mainly Kutchi, Sindhi & a little bit of Gujarati. The Memoni language originated from Kathiawar, which I believe is close to the city of Rajkot, Gujarat now.
Gujurati language came from sauraseni prakrit and apbrahmsa and uses devanagari script for writing which is used for sanskrit
So both Aryan and Dravidian languages have same roots and ancestry
Check out spread of brahmi.
Kharosti sister script of brahmi written from right to left
There is no Aryan invasion and dravadian divide. However human civilization is way ancient and we have continuous history and long list of Chakravarti kings and ramayana and Mahabharata did happened
Only during times of Mahabharata and ramayana, bharatvarsha covered large geographical area and it was not confined to today's india
So proofs of these events are scattered.
Check out kamboj Jatt clan
We are descendants of living civilization but have lost touch of our own ancestry and history
People fighting over languages should remember all these languages are part of the Indo- European Languages. These languages have influenced each other over millennia. Old Persian and Sanskrit sound very similar(Google, UA-cam both). Persian influence came from the Mughal Courts. Since Persian was the English of the Ruling class in those period.Special Credit Aamir Khusro. Hindi is more sanskritised version of hindvi and Urdu is more persianed. Hindvi itself for 1000’s years was influenced by Sanskrit plus local dialects of the region. I know it’s very complicated. Conclusion- No one is Pure here. It always was evolving
rightly put
hindi and hindvi are arabised name of khadi boli or khadi bhasha
Use your own common sense instead of copying foreign invaders court historians 😂😂
In our village, Pashto is the language we all speak. But many struggle when calling helplines, like network call centers, because they only speak Urdu. This language barrier makes it hard for people to get the help they need.
You don't celebrate son of the soils like MAHAAN RAJA PUSHOTTAM SABARWAL ( PORUS ), Rajput DULLA BHATTI ( Abdullah Bhatti ) , BABA GURU NANAK DEV JI , RAI BULLAR BHATTI , BABA GORAKH NATH JI , BABA BALAK NATH Ji , RAI AHMAD KHAN KHARAL , BABA BULLEH SHAH JI , RAJA RANJEET SINGH JI , HARI SINGH NALWA , JAGGA GERAYVAL , BHAGAT SINGH SANDHU , LALA LAJPAT RAI Ji, Dayal Singh Majithia Ji , Master Tara Singh Ji , Sir Ganga Ram Ji , Sir Chotu Ram Ji list to long to explain but you converted Pakistani Punjabi Muslims celebrate looters invaders from Arabia Central Asia Iran .
Porus was chandravanshi rajput from the shoorsaini tribe, rest I agree with you 100 percent.
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उस समय राजपूत नाम का कोई शब्द नहीं था। राजपूत शब्द हर्षवर्धन की मृत्यु के पश्चात व्युत्पन्न हुआ।
@@sudhindrapal1969 I agree brother. Us time rajpoot nahi kehte the. Lekin chandravansh ke maharaja shoorsen ji(sri krishna ji ke dada ji) ke naam se ye tribe chala a raha tha. Jisko shoorsaini kehte the. Us tribe ke raja the raja porus.
Pakistan always has to detach itself indian identity and culture so they can sound different from Hindus with whom they lived and converted,That's the reason there leader Portrayed Hindus and india as devil so they don't drift back to India , Highly confused characters
majhub is something that make them mentally slaves 😂
From a linguistic standpoint, The National Anthem does not have a single piece of syntax or grammer that makes it exclusively Persian. Rather, it follows grammer rules/syntax common to both Persian and Urdu. You won't find "Ast", 'Neest", "hastam", "shud" or "mun" in the anthem but you will find words in it that are exclusively found in Urdu.
It's not a huge problem and neither is it a requirement for a respectable piece of poetry to be understandable by the masses.
all of the words written in national anthem of pakistn can be seen in poetry of modern urdu poets. but mr podcaster is saying that this "persianized urdu'' was not being spoken in india any where ( under mughals/britishers)
As I have said earlier only a true patriot will point out flaws in his country while living there and paying taxes. Thats exactly what you are ❤
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As a Kid I used to say "saya-e-khudai june july" 😂😂
not knowing what the actual words were
Actually that is the time of the year when saya matter most.😂
Also has noone noticed this - 'Qaum Mulk Saltanat ' ? Saltanat ? Really ? In this day and age ? When an appropriate replacement would be so easy - Jamhuriyat for instance instead of Saltanat for example. That NOone has noticed is symptomatic of many things about that benighted land, I suppose. Is there actually a deep, subconscious longing for a despotic Sultan to rule over the Islamic Sultanate of Pakistan ?
Yes, that’s discussed in the book too. Was also criticized
@@user-rp1wl5rj7u good observation 👌
You know why Indian ODI Cricket team is best because its their anthem that says Oneday Mataram
Kuch bhiii😅
And why Pak Teams always have their faces rubbed into the ground is because their national anthem says Paak sar zameen😂😂
good one 😁
Bhai national anthem Jana Gana Mana h.. Vande Mataram national song h.
@@nileshsinha2295 Kis jaahil ko samjha rahe ho bhai, ise na vande pata hai, na mataram, ye toh Pakistani nalli nihari khaane paida hua hai bas
Don't you dare appropriate Baba Bulle Shah. He is Indian. 🇮🇳
Kahan say? 🤣
Kasur is in present day Pakistan
@@ThePakistanExperience bhai ese to Indus Valley civilization bhi kafi Pakistan me hai. I meant culturally he is Indian because his of his pluralism. Also I meant it semi sarcastically..
@@ThePakistanExperiencedon't say present day when he was there it was Bharat /.hindustan / India there was nothing like Pakistan
If Lord Narsimha Took avatar in present day Peshawar ancient Purushpura / Prahlaadpuri capital of Gandhara Kingdom that made Bhagwan Narsingha avatar of Bhagwan Vishnu a Pakistani God? 😂
@@praveenkaurwar3188Indus valley civilization 60% India me hai only 40% pakistaan me hai
Agar IVC ke 2 sabse bade Cities Hadappa aur Mohanjo-daro present day Pakistan me hai to iska mtkb ye nhi ki IVC Pakistan ki hai 😂
Bengali didn't exist in Pakistani thought, same is the situation about the people of Balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and Sindh. Only Punjab is Pakistan and Pakistan is Punjab. Did Punjab fully move to urdu? Whose language is Urdu?
Punjab 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 from financial hub Karachi sindh 🇵🇰
I'm a native Persian living in quetta and yes the national anthem of pakistan is in Persian In fact urdu itself consists verbs the nouns in urdu are majorly from Persian and Arabic
من هندی هستم. منم اینجوری فکر میکنم که ترانه میلی پاکستان به فارسی است. فقط یک جمله در این آهنگ به اردو است، آهنگ باقی کلا به فارسی است.
@@sohambansal4175and Sanskrit
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بله مہم ترین شخصیات در تاریخ زبان اردو استادھائ فارسی زبان ھست مثل غالب میر وغیرہ
دقیقا @@QasimAli-tc2pj
@@QasimAli-tc2pj modern persian itself is 70% arabised not really persian
Actually its 99.9% persian with one word "ka" in Urdu. When we say "Pak sarzameen ka nizaam", the word ka is from Urdu and not Persian. Otherwise its all Persian.
Ka hindi word hai bhai
Ka Hindi h Na ki Urdu wurdu Urdu khud Hindi se Bani h
To all jahil folks Commenting read history it was Called Hindustani which was written in perso arabic script later Devanagari version of hindustani was adopted which was heavily Sanskritised and was named Hindi. The Hindustani which had retained perso arabic script later came to be known as Urdu during the 19th century. Hindi came to existence in the late 19th century. As a script if you want to see I have a pdf of book from 1800s where "Hindustani" Had used perso arabic script same as urdu today.
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In the Delhi region of India the native language was Khariboli, whose earliest form is known as Old Hindi (or Hindavi). It belongs to the Western Hindi group of the Central Indo-Aryan languages.The contact of Hindu and Muslim cultures during the period of Islamic conquests in the Indian subcontinent (12th to 16th centuries) led to the development of Hindustani as a product of a composite Ganga-Jamuni tehzeeb.
In cities such as Delhi, the ancient language Old Hindi began to acquire many Persian loanwords and continued to be called "Hindi" and later, also "Hindustani".
From the 13th century until the end of the 18th century; the language now known as Urdu was called Hindi, Hindavi, Hindustani,Dehlavi, Dihlawi,Lahori, and Lashkari.
Aur hindi mai sanskrit words to aayenge hindi ka origin sanskrit se hai😂 gawaar porki.hindi ki majority vocabulary sanskrit derived hai.
Sanskrit. Hindi
Hast. Haath
Maya. Mai
Tvam. Tum
Aatm. Aap
Vapr. Baap
Asme. Hai
Khadan. Khaana
Nahi. Nahi
@@amaanhussainbarbhuyan9628have u heard of Old Hindi or Khariboli
Most surprising that Jinnah who never spoke Urdu and came from a Gujarati family imposed Urdu on Pakistanis which most Pakistanis never spoke in 1947. Half of Pakistan spoke Bengali other spoke mostly Punjabi,Sindhi, Pashto etc.
English was imposed on India because the land never had a uniting language. Before that at the start, the invading Aryans brought Sanskrit and used a tool to deprive native people from their land and outcast them, as Shudras. The Aryans invaders never recorded event in chronological order and whatever their motives were, but it kept the masses ( the native people) and todays historians and Indian public in dark about how Sanskrit invaders imposed their language. God bless British who brought English to educate the Indian masses.
@@tnemeganam1 nice joke there was nothing called aryan race , it was a racist concept developed in germany and uk and some european countries to justify colonialism to their own population
I'm Indian from Eastern part of the country. And, you look like one of my childhood friend,😂 and had a teacher who looked like hassan nisar 😂
I never felt both you & Nisaar are from middle east😢😅
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Deep!
Hasan Nisar is self certified central Asian DNA 😂😂
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I was born in Delhi & you look like Delhi ka munda from a rich baniya family, who goes for a spin in his BMW at night & eats non-veg food in hiding because his family is strict vegetarian 😁😁😁
Urdu ultimately comes from a spoken form of Sanskrit called Prakrit. There were different Prakrits spoken at the time. that were spoken in different regions throughout Northern-India. As these different forms were spoken they diverged into separate languages. Urdu, specifically comes from the Shauresani Prakrit. The Apphabrahmshas were spoken in the latter stage of the middle Indo-Aryan language period up to around the 9th Century. From there on Arabic and Persian also started entering these Middle Indo-Aryan languages and it began developing into Modern Indo-Aryan languages.
Giving wrong and fake news informations and history is in India's DNA
Where did you learn this? "Prakrit" means natural and "Sanskrit" means cultured (artificial/ synthetic). Sanskrit came AFTER Pakrit. Please drag your teacher out of his house and kick him.
@@1168PJ words meanings doesn't mean anything , what is history is history, so stfu bro
Sanskrit and Hindi is same not urdu urdu is turkish Persian Arabic
Praktis ware dialect of Sanskrit@@1168PJ
Tagore did not intend to write national anthem in particular, but his poems ended up as anthems for India and Bangladesh. Ananda Samarakoon, who penned the lines for Sri Lanka's national anthem and composed music for it, was a Tagore disciple at Viswabarathi University. i personally think the most inspiring of anthems of South Asia is Tagore's " Amar Sonar Bangla..."
And that country broken Tagore statue recently 😂
@@Abhianand420You are an ignoramus....😂😂😂....to confuse Tagore with Sk Mujibur Rahaman....😂😂😂
@@Abhianand420 and people pissed on the statue of Mujib Ur Rehman…
Whatever anger they had on the govt maybe is justified but doing such things to national icons and historically significant things is really pathetic
@@Abhianand420except it didn't, you and your Hindutva pals will continue to peddle fake news
@@vineetdeorari8017Celebration of Revolution is always ugly if you read the history from all over the world. BTW, all sculptures have already been restored at their exact places. Now, the situation is going back to normal.
Should have given to ISI to write it
The issue is that you don't speak proper Urdu. While you are fluent in vernacular Urdu, you lack proficiency in its literary form. In your last podcast you pronounced the Urdu word "pazeerai" incorrectly several times within few minutes. And what is "quwat e uquwat"? You don't even know that it's actually "quwat e ukhuwat e awam." The national anthem is in Urdu, and every word in the national anthem is used in everyday conversation. Instead of making this an issue, focus on learning proper Urdu.
Instead of getting angry and attacking me because facts trigger you. Read your history.
Or atleast watch this video to educate yourself. You’ll see what everyone in 1954 thought about the anthem and how incomprehensible it was to them.
@@ThePakistanExperience Why should I be angry? I'm just sharing my opinion - you are just being too sensitive. Urdu isn't even your native language-you speak Sindhi, so I can understand if literary Urdu is challenging for you. I have noticed that you regularly mispronounce many Urdu words. Instead of getting upset, focus on improving your Urdu. The Urdu language was created by those who spoke and adored Persian, so it's only natural that they tried to make Urdu as similar to Persian as possible. Izafat is widely used in Urdu poetry, far more than in everyday conversation, and the national anthem IS poetry. The anthem is in Urdu, and almost every word of it is used in everyday conversation. This is a fact, and your hour long diatribe won’t change this fact.
@ThePakistanExperience this is getting ridiculous. Do you suggest we make a national anthem in every language that is spoken in Pakistan? Also hindustani language from which both hindi and Urdu are derived from had numerous Persian words and was written in the Persian nastaliq script. Hindi with its devanagari script came much later and it's a version that was promoted by Hindu politicians as a political move. In short Persian language has always been a part of our culture for centuries.
@@sameenshahid7457 urdu was made when Mughal arrived in india ,have u heard about khariboli or maybe prakrit, sanskrit
Urdu is just prakit with Persia,arabic lol😂
I am a Bangladeshi Bengali.I understand Hindi and Urdu but when I first read your national anthem I didn't understand at all.Now,the reason is clear.
Bhai.. Love and support from Charhda Punjab.. We should be proud of our origins...
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There is a thin line between nationalism and racism. Thats why few youngs know their national anthems in west now. Agar hmaray han nahi aata farsi ki wajah se to achi baat hai. Blessing in disguise
😂😂😂 There is no concept of nation in Islam but Ummah
Main to in logon pe hairan hun jo ye keh rhy ye persian nahi urdu hai
Matlb inka alag level ka pak studies chal raha hai
Haan. Unki bhi ghalti nahee hay Unko rakha hee jahil gaya hay
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Pak sarzameen "ka" nizaam.
There's no "ka" in Persian language. It's an exclusively Urdu word. Jaahil aap jese loug hain jinko aadhi maloomaat hoti hai aur baatein karte hain.
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Again, it's not the anthem's fault your Urdu vocab sucks. Your spoken Urdu is half made up of English. Such people look like morons judging whether the anthem is really Urdu or not.
16:20 "Hafiz Jallandhari wrote the anthem dead drunk and dancing girls (randiyan) were singing it"
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Proud moment for Pakistanis 😊
Dear Shehzad Ghias, I wish you read my comment.
I am a Indian of Bengali extraction who speaks Hindi fluently but not educated in Hindi.
I had told my Pakistani Urdu-speaking Mohajir colleague that I listened to your anthem and couldn't understand one word.
He was a little surprised and I had said it has used Persian/Turkish words probably because I can follow Pakistani channels or Imran Khan's speech.
The music of the short anthem is okay-ish, has some military beat of a country which is described as a military with a country attached to it.
Your channel is the best UA-cam channel of Pakistan.
The other "official" channel of the good looking guy is also good.
It is sad that the potential of UA-cam and all media is wasted with junk content filling all web data.
I am surprised to know that you are actually a comedian and not a scholar of history.
Keep up the good work.
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I agree with your argument that common Pakistanis should know what their National Anthem is about. I was curious as a child and I remember looking up the meanings of Persian words to understand what the anthem was about, but I agree with your point
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It is good we don't know much about anthem...We are already over glorified in our history books and curriculum... Knowing more about anthem will take us to skies may be beyond heliosphere.😂
@@thehussansiddiquian anthem is something you would think about once your basic needs are met (Maslow’s pyramid of needs). To your point common man is preoccupied by other more basic but important needs
I am an Indian. My views
1- first urdu is not from Sanskrit ( actually samskrutam) i dont know but not even in Sanskrit of spoken language. 1-2% of Indian know it. Urdu is primarily the mixture of Hindi and Persian Language. So its no you to present factual evidence to prove urdu is Sanskrit drived language. Instead you can say many word are taken from hindi which have lot of Sanskrit word. Aad urdu does not with out Persian word in it. from galab to iqbal every poet of subcontinent uses urdu which has so much of Persian words. Well if you remove the Persian word from urdu it becomes hindi. As for antham i do agree it is persian word.
Quwat e aquwat means strength of brotherhood. Persian word build urdu beautiful. Even indian hindu loves Persian urdu. And claim its orgin back to india.
As far as other language is concern we should respect all languages and cultures.
Bro aalishan is urdu word it does origanates from persian.
2. Sindhi and Persian are all equal language. But Persian is more Islamic oriented cultural language. Language is the door to the civilizational ideas. If you make Sindhi and forget urdu, you will loose your past and cultural. In every nation civilizational language is considered superior to others. In India Sanskrit is considered with other language because it's a language of an ancient civilization. Which has an ancient culture embedded in it. That's why people could have the view that preserve your culture through learning Urdu. But degrading any other language is not acceptable at all. That's my point.
Nobody says bulleh Shah is not from our culture.
And who says the Mughal Empire is not from our history. Mughal previously was afghans but came to to India an in integrated with the society. Even Mughal is our history. Why do you think Mughal is not our history. Bulleh Shah is also are history.
Sorry man as an Indian I feel really hard to understand your argument. I never thought in my life that any language is inferior superior. But I do considered the language which belongs to the native culture should be considered higher. Persian initially was not the language of India. But Urdu is don't say that Urdu is someone else's language it originated and form in subcontinent. Many poetries is in Urdu. And don't disgrace any language. Bangla Sindhi Punjabi balochi language. Every languages are equal. But it is the civilization impact that mix language different. Sanskrit what's the language of the subcontinent 4000 years back in the vedic period.
I don't understand where these things are coming from but I think you are addressing Pakistani I don't know what's going on in Pakistan right now. I saw your video on transformation of Pakistan. And I like and admire your ideas on it.
Parcham o sitar e hialal urdu hi hai koi isse btao. Urdu ki kitaben padi hai. Spoken language changes in every 50 years.. is the standard written language which is considered original language.
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Nice! I really appreciate your work. Stay safe and keep exposing and keep educating 👏
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Pakistan should adopt 3 language formula
1. National Languages - Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtu and Balochi.
2. Official Language for Federal Government - English, Urdu
3. Recognised Foreign Languages (3rd languages) - Arabic, Persian or Turkish
You can add regional languages as co-official in Provincial level - Saraiki, Kashmiri and others.
For the first time I'm so happy that someone from Pakistan suggested Chimamanda Ngozi Adechie's speech 'The Dangers of a Single Story' which is a mind-blowing and thought provoking speech
I almost everyday listen and read Chimamanda
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Shehzad correction :- jan gan man is india national anthem but vande matram is national song. Vande matram me aisi kuch lines thi jisme kuch muslim ko objection tha or fir itna hi vande matram rkha gya jis committee me nehru se leke kai muslim leader the unhone is vande matram ko certify kiya jbki pura vande matram kafi bada hai. Baaki apki history correct hai. Bas vo jan gan man me ye vale corrextion ki bjaye vande matram me correction hue the.
National Anthem should be now -Saare jahan se Acha Pakistan 🇵🇰 hamara ,Hum bulbale hai iske ye gulsitan hamara written by Alama iqbal
Good idea but ab toh late hogaya
@@ThePakistanExperience iska blasphemy ho jayega bhai
Last tume to hindustan tha😂
Hindi and urdu are same language,,,thats why in india it is told that---"" when indian pm give speech then more percent of pakistani understand than own indian""
Because india has many languages
50% indians know Hindi broo
But bhai there are so many Sanskrit word we can't understand.
@@tnemeganam1 there are so many turkish arabiks and persian words which no one understands
@@tnemeganam1that's your problem
@@inspirex1831more than 60% Indians
It’s even harder for most Indians to understand India’s national anthem.
I don't understand why you have to vilify Hafeez Jalandhari? You may disagree with the language used, but that has nothing to do with the quality of the lyrics. Might as well criticize those at the helm at the time rather than a national poet who was just doing his job. Extremely uncouth on your part.
in sahab ko koi ye bataye k tune pr lyrics bithana mazaq nhi wo bh national anthem k lie.. lkn bhai ko modern urdu prhna ati ho ya nhi purani urdu (ghalib,anees era) wali highly persianised thi.. ye sahb kehty han k urdu kbhi asi nhi boli gai
How did I vilify him? Or his lyrics?
Persian is shia languages and Sunni majority Pakistan’s national anthem is in Petsian,congratulations Pakistan.
Languages are not related to the religion but to the region
India chor ke baki sab abbu hain 😂😂
persian afghanisan ki bh language ha k jisay wahan k majority sunni bolty han
@@drhumajunaid8142 hey Huma I'm not trying to find fault
Hey who told you this infact Persian people are the cause islam spread in subcontinent have you ever read history the great scholars were from Persia and speak persia they came to subcontinent (Pakistan and India) and spread islam gradually the Persian language become so popular that it was selected as official language and was only spoken in royal places
Well said, Thank You Shehzad for acknowledging this issue
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Jinnah asked his close friend Jagannath Azad from lahore to pen the national Anthem only on 11th August 1947.
Shri Jagannath Azad submitted the following lyrics[2]:
“Ae sarzameene paak
Zarray teray haen aaj sitaaron se taabnaak
Roshan hai kehkashaan se kaheen aaj teri khaak
Ae sarzameene paak”….
Anthem dhun pe bana gaya hai toh pehle dhun banani chahiye thi.
i was watching this video in which the guy was calling people who prounce urdu words in punjabi accent perhe likhe jahil and my mind immediately said sir that s a colinized approach and urdu was not the language of majority of pakistan so who are you to say this. Two years ago i would have agreed with him. So the work you are doing is definitely making a difference. Sometimes i feel a bit of guilt or shame in speaking punjabi but then i correct myself. ❤
ranjeet singh too imposed persian in his Govt dept
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To be islamic means to destroy local culture and language. Thus Pakistani national anthem is very much in accord with islamic spirit.
I am Marathi ,hindi , marathi also inherited from Sanskrit, urdu and many more.
English achhi hai q ki inherited kiye alag alag bhasha se...thats wy english populr and good
Religion doesn't have languages, you have to believe in that faith regardless of what language you speak, urdu is a turkish word meaning Lushkar , a group of many other languages.
Ironically, Sanskrit is sister language of Persian.
Persian language developed from Avasthan language n Avasthan is a subsequent Branch language of middle time sanaskrit.
Not persian but Avestan
And Persians is so much arabianized and Turkified 😂
So noo Persians isn't sister language to sanskrit but yes Avestan Persians was
Hello, you are right in drawing attention to this linguistic point. However, Urdu is not directly related to Sanskrit so much as to Hindi (or what was called 'khadi boli') because a language is not determined by its vocabulary but by its grammar. All Urdu grammar is directly that of modern urban Hindi spoken between Delhi and Lucknow.
Another fact is the the Indian national anthem is also written in unintelligible Sanskritised Bangla by Rabindranath Tagore.
Hindi is derived from Sanskrit ergo Urdu is also derived from Sanskrit. Root Sanskrit hee hay
Hindko language
"a language is not determined by its vocabulary but by its grammar." deluded arent you? would you be able to understand German if I used German grammar but with Urdu words? Would you still call it German or Urdu?
@an_orange8911 Languages borrow vocabulary from other languages. whereas grammar is particular to specific languages. Urdu has neither a vocabulary, nor grammar nor script of its own.
اردو ایک مسنوئی ایجاد ہے۔
Somewhat like Pakistan.
@@kalidasswaminathan4341 interestingly it’s also a language which does not have original religious literary work.
I am surprised that Pakistanis have kept marriages like Indians and not arabs or turks. They should adopt arab weddings
Shehzad, the original language of Iranians is Pahalavi, a dialect of Prakrit. Persian was forced upon Iranians.
The most important cultural book of Iranians is Shahnama by Ferdousi, which contains some Pahalavi language.
@@Aryan2069 Which BJP IT cell group send you this information? Just curious
I'm a sindhi from Dadu i have memorized Soviet union, Italian, German and Indian anthems because they are mesmerizing and beautiful but I don't remember Pakistani anthem 😄
Fun fact these countries have maintained their history
@@thehussansiddiquibut Indian Muslims are trying to destroy it
7:51 People need to read "Sapiens" to understand how human beings evolved and migrated. There is a single race of Homo sapiens sapiens all over the world, no DNA is bad DNA, we all are same specie.
It is Haram in Islam. Whosoever read Sapiens is fit for Tan Ser Se Juda.
@@Mussadi_Lal then how do u explain the fact that all human bodies are formed and developed the same way? Or the fact that when the DNA gets tampered with, it results in deformations and disabilities? And you can't say it's propaganda, we use this science for forensics. If it were wrong, then paternity tests etc would be inaccurate as well.
Also, it's a truth we people like to deny but we all have pretty mixed ancestry. A pathan has much more indian DNA than they would like to admit, and many indians may have some iranian, central asian, east asian etc ancestry. We tend to hate the same people that we have so, SO much in common with.
@@pale_blue_ruby I think people like Shehzad should start talking about science and evolution as it will help the younger generation. Christianity was also against evolution but they reinterpreted bible and now they accept it. Just have to find some reference in Quran that can relate to evolution and people will accept it.
@@pale_blue_ruby The most amazing thing is that there were 12 species of genus Homo but only one specie survived that is us. Whole Earth has only one specie of Homo that is Homo sapiens sapiens, it blows my mind.
Pakistani
Religion arab se
National anthem persian se
And most funny ancestery - pahle arabi the aur aaj kal ottoman serise ke baad se turkish bane hue hai 😂😂
In short the question is “ Asli Abbu Kon “ 😂😂
Ab india ko dekhte hue apne aapko indian batana chahenge😂lekin bichare puri koshish karenge ki Hinduo ko kese hata kar history apni taraf se bataye like hum Indus valley civilization ke asali log h india wale nahi h or agar tumne bola ki Islam bahar se aaya to tumhara hindu bhi bahar se aaya bla bla 🤣
@@vineetdeorari8017Dada Hindu pota Muslim😂
If there is some possibility of debate either our national anthem is in Urdu or not then it means there is something fishy. I still after 35 years cant understand the anthem.
🚶♀️bro why does the indian national anthem feel more relateable understandable and more representative of who i am to me as a pakistani 😭
Becuz indian one represents indian subcontinent it literally mentions punjab and sindh to it meanwhile Pakistani one is kike in one line we are turk second we are Persian third we are arab 😢😂
Why don't you start with the primary question? "What is Urdu" ........ The answer (though painful for Pakistani's) is Urdu is basically Hindi with sanskrit oriented words replaced with Persian & some Arabic words. Its basically "Hindi" guys, you can pretend all you want. You guys are experts in pretending anyway.
Tabhi to kafiroo ne soteeli maa ka slook kiya hai Urdu k sath
well you can also keep pretending it is hindi since you guys are expert in lying anyway. cmon guys stop your obsession with pakistan and urdu, it is getting cringy at this point.
Change in Dialect transform a new language perhaps don't say Hindi it's a derivative of Sanskrit and other languages
@@an_orange8911 we can start saying it’s a Turkish language 😂😂
@@an_orange8911 go and cope harder. Urfu is not your language 😂😂😂 it is a language of india. And it is derived from proto hindi
As an indian whenever i hear jan gan man, especially before every cricket match, it gives me goosebumps. I agree with your point that national anthem should connect with people. We also have the word SINDH in our national anthem and people say we should remove it because Sindh isnt part of india anymore
@@KP97197 of course its okay to have that word but in our anthem we are talking abt land. All i am saying there is a debate not saying i support that debate.
Do you understand your national anthem entirely?
It was written pre independence and adopted as national anthem
No need for any change.. we have Sindhis as integral part of our culture
@@kenokyu7227 yes, i do
@@ramneekchanna translate ucchala jaladhi taranaga and dayaka in english without using Google translate
india ka national anthem JAN GAN MAN hindi mein nahi bengali mein hai hindi translation ke bawajud bengali language hi mein indian school mei parhaya jata hai
Hindi and Urdu - one language two scripts.
Delhi tried imposing Hindi across India, failed, but still trying and will fail again.
Pakistan did it almost successfully - failed in East Pakistan, eventually led to curve out the land.
Language is our identity. Language is our heritage. It is the emblem of our ethnicity. Language makes us understand who we are historically, what was our story. Taking that out of us is a sin. And it bites back eventually
As an international student, I had the chance to meet both Pakistani and Iranian students. The fact is exactly as you said. The Iranian guy told me that the Pakistani anthem is written in very simple and modern Persian. It doesn’t sound classic to native Persian speakers.
Modern Hindi and Urdu are manufactured languages. over sanskritization and Persianization is making them more difficult ..India me kisi sarkari documents ki language dekh lo adhi bate samajh me nahi aati.
@@shaalvinsharma3971 language evolve over time
Agar tumhe official hindi samajh me nahi aati to vishudfh chitiye ho tum😂😂
Hindi was meant to be derivative of Sanskrit
Hindi is originally known as Khari boli / Bhasa
And other regional languages of North india is known as Theth Boli / Bhasa
And Hindi is 90% Sanskrit with regional avadhi & Braj touch cuz hindi is also Derived from Surseni Prakriti ( Descendent of Sanskrit ) same as Braj and Avadhi
Hindi was meant to be derivative of Sanskrit
Hindi is originally known as Khari boli / Bhasa
And other regional languages of North india are Collectively known as Theth Boli / Bhasa which includes Kannauji, Avadhi, Bhojpuri, Angika, Vajjika, Maithili, Bundeli, Bhageli, Magahi, Braj, Kouravi, Mewati, mewari, Marwari, etc
And Hindi is 90% Sanskrit with regional avadhi & Braj touch cuz hindi is also Derived from Surseni Prakrit ( Descendent of Sanskrit ) same as Braj and Avadhi
My Iranian friend read the Pakistani anthem and didn't think it was really Persian. He said it was just fragments of Persian words and not really good farsi. And I always thought it was Persian.
کیونکہ عربی الفاظ بھی
Haha imagine that. Not proper Urdu, and not really good Farsi either. A fine metaphor for the whole country,
पाक सरज़मीन शाद बाद
किश्वर-ए-हसीन शाद बाद
तू निशान-ए-अज़्म-ए-आलिशान
अर्ज़-ए-पाकिस्तान!
मरकज़-ए-यक़ीन शाद बाद
पाक सरज़मीन का निज़ाम
क़ूवत-ए-अख़ूवत-ए-अवाम
क़ौम, मुल्क, सलतनत
पाइन्दा ताबिन्दा बाद!
शाद बाद मंज़िल-ए-मुराद
परचम-ए-सितारा-ओ-हिलाल
रहबर-ए-तरक़्क़ी-ओ-कमाल
तर्जुमान-ए-माज़ी, शान-ए-हाल,
जान-ए-इस्तक़बाल!
साया-ए-ख़ुदा-ए-ज़ुल जलाल
यही है क्या नेशनल एंथम भाई मुझे समझ नही आ रहा 😂😂 साद बाद क्या है
itni samajh hoti to goubarmutar ka sevan na karta 😂 🐒🐘🐄🐍🐀 ye bhi na pUjta
@@aahmad20046-55 formula ka paidaish lagte ho
@@aahmad2004 Unt (Camel)mutar pike tum pe akal aa gayi 😂😆😆😂😆 Tumhare to Mohammad ne kaha hai unt ka moot piyo 😂😂😂😂😂
@@aahmad2004 kisi aur ko bolne wale bhi yeh yaad kar lena chahiye ki humare wale bhi camel ka urine pite h
@@aahmad2004rapist ko ham nhi poojte ,6sal or 52 sal me farq pta hai ,chapti earth wale😂😂
Off course colloquial and zen z words can't be used in national anthems of any nation to make it contemporary and upto date. For example National anthem of India contains names of regions which are not used nowdays for those regions, these things are bound to happen but solution is to teach younger generations about the contexts and meanings, and not necessarily argue for changing the anthems. After all, In South Asia we value traditions and traditions can't be called obsolete in any context.
Pakistani 😂
Language:- Up , Bihar
Tribe:- Gujjar, panjabi,pasto,baluchi,pathan
Religion:-Arab country
National Hero:- inveder of Turk, Saudi and centre asia
Geography:- Indian subcontinent
National anthem:- Persian language
Full of drama 😂
Pakistan is hardly the only example of a country where the National Anthem is not in the official language. The Indian National Anthem is in Sanskritized Bengali, the national anthem of Singapore (Mahula Singapura) is in Bahasa Melayu. I see the broader point that you are trying to make about mis-indexed national identity, but I don't think having the Qaumi Tarana in Persianized Urdu was that big of a deal in the larger national narrative.
Pakistani nahi manege ke urdu ke jyadatar word Sanskrit se liye he
Bhai kyu nahi, facts ko kon change kar sakta hai. Lekin phir apko ye bhi man'na parega k lingua franca, mostly spoken in famous Bollywood movies & what your actors & elite class speak is Urdu too. We grew up watching Pogo & ZeeTV, in those type of channels Hindi was more commonly used, but in 2000s onwards Bollywood movies & singers like Arijit Singh all use Urdu because it sounds better.
What do Pakistanis believe? There are not so many Urdu speakers in Pakistan
@@HTrntrsbhai, the common language we all speak is Hindustani, a mix of Hindi, Urdu, Punjabi. That is the language of the Hindi film industry too. Rather than speak highly Persianised Urdu or Sanskritised Hindi, Hindustani is an easy neutral language for all. Got this from a well-known film lyricist Gulshan Bawra, who was in the film industry for more than 4 decades and is credited with some 250 songs. Dilbar mere, Pyaar humein kis mod pe le aaya, etc are a couple of his memorable songs that spring to mind at short notice.
Great video Shehzade
🙌
Persian was the court language of India before the English invaded India and occupied it. Muslims were 94% literate due to Persian. Mongols, Afghan, Iranian, as well as Turks all used the Arabic dialect. Muslims ruled India for eight hundred years. Now just listen to yourself and just note the use of English in your speech in only one sentence. This the influence of just two hundred some years of British rule. It would be easier to recite it in school and make it compulsory for students to learn the meaning as well then try to associate ourselves with sunskrit.
Tamils nd kerla never get rules by muslims
makes sense. Previously alot of our elders understood Farsi too. But I think it's a great point to adjust our anthem according to our reality. We've got nothing to do with Persia but rather with ethnicities that build up Pakistan.
Can you provide me the source where you get the number of 94, and please tell what is the criteria to declare an individual literate- is it only that he/she knew persian that is why he/she is literate. Please clarify..
Aam logo ki language thoda farsi thi
Pakistanis: "Muslims ruled India for eight hundred years."
Also Pakistanis: "India was never a country, therefore Pakistan was not carved out of India. Rather both countries were created on the same day."
Nothing is yours. The land belongs to India. Religion belongs to Arab. Ancestors belong to Hindus. Heros belong to Afghanistan. The dramas belong to Turky. The culture belongs to Sanatan.
well we Indians barely understand line by line jan man gan in India in letter and spirit but we love and respect it
But atleast it's our own language
It's still our own language
Atleast I understand the meaning
Wtf every North Indian understands Jan gan man cuz it's not in pure Bangla but just sanskrit words tied in Sentences
میں ایک ڈاکٹر ہوں
پاکستان میں پڑھا ہے
لیکن
آج بھی قومی ترانے کا مطلب نہیں پتہ 😢
😁
اپنی ڈگری کو ٹوکری میں پھینک دو کل کو یہ نہ کہو میں ڈاکٹر ہوں مگر تشخیص کرنا نہیں آتا ۔
Indian National Anthem is in Bengali
@@kenokyu7227 no translations,,,,same hi hai,,,,
Kisne bola... Bewkoof wo sanskrit hai. Pura copy paste kar du kya national anthem, phir tu bata usme bengali line konsi hai. Jahil ho google chalate bhi nhi aata.
Actually it is more like words majority sanskritized so every part of India relate to it . I hardly heard any full sentence in the national anthem.
Official language urdu is a foreign language. National anthem is in persian, another foreign language. Official religion islam to be studied in another foreign language, Arabic.. Aspirationally trying to learn English, another foreign language.. Pakistan is land with people without a root.
The Pakistani national anthem, "Qaumī Tarānah" (قومی ترانہ), is written in a highly Persianised.
- The anthem's lyrics are not entirely in Parsi but rather a mix of Persian,Urdu and Arabic words.
- The language used is more akin to Persian, which was common in literary and poetic circles during the Mughal era.
- The anthem's composer, Ahmad Ghulamali Chagla, was a musician of Indian origin, and the lyrics were written by Hafeez Jullundhri,
I think it’s not unique of us to have a national anthem that is in another language or in a formal form.
Several countries have national anthems that are either in a different language from what is commonly spoken today or use formalized, archaic language that may not be easily understood by the general population. Here are a few examples:
New Zealand
The anthem is bilingual, with verses in both English and Māori. While Māori is one of New Zealand's official languages, English is more widely spoken, and not all New Zealanders are fluent in Māori.
Wales
The anthem is in Welsh, which is a minority language in Wales, although it is widely taught and understood. English is the dominant language in Wales, so many Welsh people might not fully understand the anthem without prior knowledge of Welsh.
India
The anthem is in Bengali-Sanskrit, a form of highly Sanskritized Bengali, which uses formal and literary expressions that may be unfamiliar to speakers of modern Indian languages, including Bengali.
Japan
The anthem uses classical Japanese, which includes archaic words and expressions that are not used in everyday modern Japanese. The formal and poetic nature of the language can make it difficult for some Japanese speakers to fully understand
South Africa
The anthem has verses in five different languages (Xhosa, Zulu, Sesotho, Afrikaans, and English). While these languages are spoken in South Africa, not everyone is fluent in all of them, which can make parts of the anthem difficult for some citizens to understand.
7. Finland
• Anthem: Maamme (Our Land)
• Language: The anthem has both Finnish and Swedish versions. Swedish is a minority language in Finland, so many Finnish speakers might not understand the Swedish version.
8. United Kingdom
• Anthem: God Save the King/Queen
• Language: While the anthem is in English, it uses very formal and archaic language, such as “thy,” “thee,” and “vex,” which are not commonly used in contemporary English.
9. Iceland
• Anthem: Lofsöngur (The Song of Praise)
• Language: The anthem is in Icelandic but uses a highly formal and archaic style of language that might be challenging for modern Icelanders to fully understand.
Persian was considered a posh language among Urdu speakers of the time who wrote the national anthem and being just across the border the Persians did have a lot of influence and connection to the Indian sub continent so it’s nothing strange that we have Persian words in our anthem. Pakistan is a mix of many nationalities and ethnicities and we can’t just brush everyone as being Indian origin because we are not. The opposite is also not true, of course majority of people here I’ve Indian roots and they should embrace that and not get stuck in an identity crisis.