Captured Soviet Female Soldiers - How Did the Germans Treat Them?
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i like how you keep reiterating that it was the regular german army, many people think it was just the SS which did horrible things but that wasn't the case. good job!
Crazy that people still believe. The "Clean German Army" myth.
War is hell and makes all men do things they wouldn't other wise. 'Lucifer effect' and all that.
I read that the violent rape scene in "A Clockwork Orange" was actually inspired by an event that happened to the author and his wife during the war, in Great Britain.
Their home was invaded, he was beaten senseless and his wife raped.
The perpetrators: awol American GIs.
People are always surprised to learn that many of the army officers involved in the bomb plot against Hitler had blood on their hands from atrocities they had overseen, particularly on the Eastern Front.
Crazy how people glance over what Stalin did to his people. Damn Commie's
My Grandma fought for the Russian army as an 19 year old in 1942 , and was wounded and luckily survived the war before coming to the USA in 1956 . As a curious high school student , I did an interview with her about her childhood and the war years , and she stated they were advised to shoot themselves rather than taken prisoner of the German army . She had witnessed so much cruelty , that she had no fear of death . She always thanked God for being able to come to America . A remarkable woman .
Thank you for sharing. How was she able to emigrate? Did she come to the states for schooling? Always curious how people living in USSR were able to leave. Was it easier after Stalin died?
My Grandma was able to come to America through marriage to my Grandpa , who incidentally was a partisan fighter in Poland . How that all came about , I do not know , but they settled in Wisconsin after being sponsored by a relative . My oldest brother is in possession of two medals my Grandma earned , but unfortunately she passed in 1985 so her story will never be known completely .
@@chrisosieczanek8281 thank you for sharing. Such crazy times for Europe, and I suppose unfortunately once again. Glad that she could make the U.S. her home.
My Mom was born 1928, in Chernovitz Romania, her plight was horrible, as a displaced person along with her Dad, Mom 2 brothers were constantly on the move, they were forced to leave because they didn't have Slavic names.
Mo said the Russian soldiers were much more "swine" in their treatment of their victims, as compared to the German soldiers, she suffered, she wasn't blessed with being ugly, is how she put it.
She was very forgiving all her life, but used her story to try raise us kids.
@@chrisosieczanek8281 many people were able to come to USA after the war
I recently read the memoirs of the great Soviet sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko. The fate of female snipers who fell into German hands was well known. In addition to her sniper rifle, she carried a pistol and always made sure she had one round left, for herself if she captured.
Yes, the Ukrainian sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko. Who died in 1974.
@@MrZombayuRussians and Ukrainians are pretty much the same ,
@@ludmilawheeler2001 Yes. So are the French and English. :/
@@MrZombayu to their vict1ms of lmperialism and c0lonialism, like in africa for centuries and to this day -- they are the same
@@vyhozshu who, what?
My great-grandmother fought in the second world war but honestly I don't know where and what she really did, the only thing I have are some photos of her in uniform and her old rifle, the most incredible thing of all is that I got to know her when I was a child, when I was only 6, the only thing I remember is that it scared me because she was very tall 1.94 (6.2) and very skinny, she looked like a ghost with her long white hair and green eyes that seemed to glow in the dark, I didn't know this but it turns out that she also had a tattoo on her left shoulder of a red star, honestly the more I know the more it hurts me that I couldn't talk to her about her experiences
...у каждого человека - 4 прабабушки, и 4 прадедушки....
Both my parents were in WW11 and Grandparents WW1. They didn't want to recite out-loud what they'd seen. If you can imagine witnessing the most horrific barbaric crimes against unarmed people over and over again it was impossible for them to say these out loud. By not repeating what they saw, they hoped the nightmares would eventually fade. If they talked about it all, the nightmares would never fade. They didn't realise that it didn't make any difference because right up until they died the nightmares never went away. That's why a few as they reached their 90's started talking about what went on.
That's also why many returned service personnel today, turn to drugs and alcoholic and the military is the last one wanting to help, because then they'll have to admit the atrocities they force our service personnel to commit in the line of 'keeping the world safe'.
@@Aussie_Truth I didn't know there was a world war 11.
dang i bet your grandma was a great lay. back in the day of course
Your parents should have shared information about her.
As a historian myself this channel I cannot stress enough how he teaches history that never gets mention. I've learned more from this channel than any book or classroom. Keep up the amazing work.
Comment on the video, not just the uploader.
@@DrJones20 Make an original comment. Not just copying and pasting the same comment.
@@mrobermind I already have. Why make a unique one for every reply.
Ryan Franklin Brown: Then you are not a historian!
@@roberttelarket4934 You took the words out of my mouth lol...Yes, forget books, forget the classroom; Watch Mark Felton Productions and you're an Historian!
I'm a history major and spent many years introducing students to myriad topics. Would have been great if your videos had existed back then as they'd make excellent intro's to a topic.
I've always thought that if I were a history teacher, or somehow ended up in front of a history classroom (such as when I was working as a substitute teacher a year and a half ago) I'd put on either a Mark Felton or History Guy video about something relevant to what the class is studying, we'd then discuss the content of the video. Never had such a chance though.
@@quillmaurer6563 Lots of luck remaining a regular or substitute teacher after showing some of the videos. Public school administrators and some parents would see to that!
Do you have records of gulag victims of USSR? How many people might be dead from 1929 to 1991? Any guess?
Intros.
@@theplanetofgames I have a guess this is a lead-in to somehow defending or diminishing Nazi actions since the USSR was also led by psychopaths. Close?
I’ve read many books about the Eastern front over the years. I don’t recall this subject being discussed or mentioned? You hit another home run! Thanks again!
Have you ever thought why it had miraculously been brought up now? And without any solid proofs
@@anatoliypankevych4853put the trolling stick away
I knew a german guy that was a Hitler youth in Berlin during the war. He told me he was apprenticed as a welder in like a train depot where he did repairs on train cars and engines that got bombed but could be repaired. He told me he sometimes worked with some soviet woman that were p.o.w's., that were quite skilled in welding and said he even learned a few things from them, but he didn't go into detail how they were treated or how he treated them. He did say some were very good looking so can speculate how they were treated.
For the series: they are are subhuman degenerates but an hole is an hole after all...
But today we have some one who praised those who still carry on the symbols of those times...
My mother-in-law joined the Red army in 1941 and was made commander of an anti-aircraft battery in Leningrad. She survived the siege for 2-1/2 years because they fed the soldiers slightly more than the civilian population. My wife was born in 1964.
Eternal memory ! My great grandmother survived Leningrad siege because her mother gave her rations to her when she was a baby. Her mother didn't make it.
it was not slightly more it was way more.
Kill a Commie for Mommy.
I think I'm most impressed by the 23-year hiatus.
@@aidankirby8412 Go to sleep kid, your parents will be pissed off if they caught you surfing youtube without their permission.
As a formal Czechoslovak my great grandfather was taken to Germany and executed he was Austrian born and fluent German speaker it was his native language and Czech was second ...Gestapo did him a favor because otherwise he would ended up in the camp....You are welcomed to light up candle if you visit Prague main train station on 1st platform is a memorial ...his name was Josef Fiedler ...railroads worker and underground resistance fighter .......most of his mates survived WWII and visited my great grand mother .....they were helping her because they know he did not give up their names ....
dang that sucks bro. hopefully you and germany can be allies in the next war
@@joepetto9488 How about let's not have a "next war". Sound good?
@@jakeg3733 Ok, if your side wants to surrender and accept exile/execution without a fight, that is fine with me.
@@joepetto9488 Sorry, what? Surrender to whom and exile where? My "side" has at this time the strongest military power in the world. Now if you'd like to surrender go right ahead. Or maybe we should all chill out instead of trying our hardest to destroy everything and kill everyone
@@joepetto9488 Agaist Evil Empire across the sea ?
My father, RIP, was 19 yrs.old when he was wounded and captured by the Germans in France in 1943. He and 1,900 other men were starved and tortured until Liberation. He had the heart not to tell his 8 children of his ordeal but he confided everything in his sister, my aunt. She told me what happened to him. It gave me a a much needed understanding of his PTSD, { they didn't have a name for it back then} The Germans were ruthless on an unimaginable scale. God bless those poor women.
The German soldiers did not torture or rape like the worst people on this planet, the Russians, the Red Army, do you know what they did to German women after the war? read more and learn a little more and don't tell untruths because we don't need them
Hats off to your father, sir. They did have a name for PTSD then. In WW1, it was called shell shock. In WW2, as the need for euphemism took hold in the country, the term was softened to battle fatigue. By the time the Vietnam Conflict came, the military brass decided to further sterilize the condition with the coinage of the phrase, post-traumatic stress disorder. George Carlin discusses the phenomenon in one of his books. Can't remember which one at the moment.
@@racher4593 Yes, 'shell shock' was used when describing soldiers before Viet Nam. Then PTSD came in but no matter what it's called, it's hell. {PS , I'm a female "Glowgirl" not a "sir"😘}
Don'tworry, the reds were also beyond ruthless, even if they are depicted as saints, by the usual people.
And the Russians, French and Brits were saints?
So much for the myth of the "Clean Wehrmacht." For decades following the end of the Second World War, Wehrmacht veterans and other Germans maintained that atrocities and other war crimes were only committed by the SS, Gestapo and "Police Units." But as time passed and historians began more deeply studying the role of the Wehrmacht it became very obvious that many regular army soldiers had neither clean hands or clean consciences when it come to war crimes.
Clean hands in a war? Not going to happen.
The bigger crime is the amount that they just let loose and scattered all over North and South America 🤦🏻♂️
Is not true. There were death units for sure. The partisan war was a war without any mercy on both sides. Most German soldiers were clean and just normal people without heinous tendencies. My grandfather was one of them.
Only total idiots ever believed the Wehrmacht wasn’t complicit in SS crimes. Idiots and people who love the taste of fascist boot polish.
@@enawikenalmao your grandpa was a toilet cleaner for the army, that’s why. He would’ve done evil if they ever gave him a gun or trusted him with orders
Dr. Mark Felton, always coming up with answers to the questions no amateur historian asked him/herself but needs an answer to.
i also enjoy Mr Feltons style and topics chosen
I often have asked these questions, but they usually went unanswered until this channel came around haha.
@@oilersridersbluejays 110% with you
I find myself saying, "I've never thought about that before but I really want an answer."
You don’t have to say “him/herself”.
It's almost impossible for post WWII generations to understand the immense suffering of millions of people during that war. My own grandfather was sent to the Buchenwalde concentration camp in Germany and barely survived several years of captivity.
If only your father was German and was sent to a us pow camp
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Each of my four grandparents has lost half his sibblings to the war. One of those was shot dead in the last day of the war
Not really. Just look how Russians are treating Ukrainians.
@@brucekliewer2623 And vice versa. I watched a video where Ukrainian soldiers had cruficied a Russian POW after which they set him on fire. War always brings out the worst in people.
my Grandmother was a nurse for Tahitian army during the war. She was stationed first in Tahiti and then in Bora Bora. She spoke of her experience sometimes. She was trained on how to use a nurse kit and a doctor thermostat. She is my hero.
Supr❤
the island of tahiti?
Arthur we need to go to Tahiti
Вечная память нашим воинам, бабушкам и дедушкам, погибшим за нашу Родину. 27 миллионов наших граждан, мы их помним. Граждан СССР.
Только советский народ, вооружённый самой сильной идеологией в мире, мог победить самую сильную армию в мире.
@@evabraun1354what's that powerful ideology?? The failed communism and socialism?
'Nightwitches' sounds far more badass than derogatory, if that's the nickname your enemies come up with for you that's high praise indeed
Derogatory term is "rifle broad".
Night witches is said more out of fear.
There's a recent Soviet TV Miniseries featuring them on YT, if you do a little searching.
France had a particularly close relationship with Russia in WWII, that I think even holds over to today.
The Night Witches were a division of French women in the Russian air force. The old bombers they used were too outdated for anything other than night use. For pin point accuracy they would cut the noisy aircraft engine and glide in low and slow over the target whisper quiet and drop their bomb load. Hopefully then restarting the engine...to return home. Obviously, an extremely dangerous maneuver.
The history, uniforms, artifacts and the equipment of the Night Witches can be seen today at The National Air and Space Museum of France just outside Paris.
@@georgemckenna462 The Night Witches were not French. They were Soviet.
The 588 Bomber group or the Night Witches literally caused so much havoc in the German rear areas that it wasn't funny. They flew the Pe2 biplane that flew slower than the fighters sent up could fly without stalling and falling out of the ground. Then when they would go to bomb their targets they would either fly with engines off or at idle and flew about 30 missions nightly.
Svetlana Alexievich in her book "The unwomanly face of war" writes the memoirs of soviet women from the war. Many were decorated as heroines of the Soviet people but when the war was over they were treated like potential sluts because of the contact they had with men away from their home. It is so sad, and war is for sure the worst thing that happens to humanity.
It seems to have happened in America as well, albeit not with women serving directly. Women in America went from Rosie the Riveter, an essential part of the war economy in 1944, to then being expected to be docile, dainty housewives by 1946. They'd played a major part in sustaining the war effort, doing "men's jobs" in a war time economy of extreme pressure, and then their demonstrated ability was dismissed with the wave of a hand once the war was done, and everyone just pretended like it never happened. Did many women want to be housewives after the war ended? Certainly. Did some women want to keep honing the skills they'd developed during the war, and were shut out of those industries? Certainly.
There is another one from the author: "Last Witnesses. Unchildlike Stories" . Recommend, but be careful.
War is always great thing to push the history forward,
Βρύσης Παντελής, ты нас с французами перепутал.
@@user-or2oy9hh7s английский
Excellent content, well delivered……LEST WE FORGET.
Thank you for the specific historical information. This is helpful to understand the larger perspective.
**reads title**
"UA-cam, please have mercy on Mr. Felton's channel..."
@@kma3647 There's two adverts at the beginning of this video - So it seems YT hasn't demonetised it yet. Nearly all history videos (except those from Mainstream media) on YT have been demonetised, no matter what the topic is - It's why Mark Felton and others have to plug mobile games like Raid Shadow Legends or beg for patreon subscribers.
@@kma3647 no mate, UA-cam would demonitize you even if you make non-controversial content if it's related to anything political or from a mordern or even a colonial war.
@@kma3647 female snipers were effective in combat during the war in the USSR, you make it sound like that hasn't been proven apparent by now.
You all are not getting his messaged. The Female Soviet POWs probably got creamed.
@@KoalaG888 .. demonetised videos still can have advertisements on it .. but the uploader won't get payed for them.
Almost 1 million views in 2 days. Nothing short of what Mr. Felton deserves for his dedication
Good pick up !.. and agreed 100%.
The allegations of plagiarism against him are a bit unsettling, but I still like his videos.
@@rickoshay5525 is that true? Never heard any of them
Yet he still has a need to sell himself for some stupid effing ads.
@@LebaneseBaron Though they are a couple of years old, I have only recently heard of these accusations myself.
Man's inhumanity to man is mindboggling.
Great video Mark!
The movie "The Dawns Here Are Quiet" is about a Soviet female anti-aircraft artillery unit. There was a version made in 1972 and another in 2015. I've been told that the original Soviet film is the better of the two. The 2015 Russian version is available on UA-cam with subtitles. It has nudity in it, so it is NSFW.
Can you share the link?
The 1972 version is available with English subtitles:
part 1 ua-cam.com/video/dfftHKf164E/v-deo.html
part 2 ua-cam.com/video/-5mf6tTBNq8/v-deo.html
@@abhindas ua-cam.com/video/9v8v1GUjwLc/v-deo.html
@@abhindas
Here is Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/9v8v1GUjwLc/v-deo.html
And Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/go2BRNbyIp8/v-deo.html
Original is better because of better actors and great music score imho. Newer one has far better camera shots.
This channel addresses some of the most interesting, and often obscure, aspects of WWIi. Highly appreciated.
Does this channel have videos on how the Red Army soldiers behaved with German women after they occupied Berlin and East Germany? How they raped and murdered German females between the ages of 8 and 80 indiscriminately? Stalin murdered ten (10x) times more human beings than Hitler. Like Gen. Patton said: "We defeated the wrong enemy."
@@borisbadenov651 although it’s important for people to acknowledge facts like this, it’s absurd to be mad at the video itself. It is an analysis of a specific question, not a broad detailing of women in ww2. If he had to cover what you said, it would either force the video to be longer and oddly directed, or be much less descriptive on the actual topic at hand.
@@ericsilver9401 I am not "mad at the video." I am pointing out a simple fact: the emphasis is always on what Germany did while Russian and Chinese atrocities are nearly always ignored. The Solutions are very simple (and they do not have to be "final"): make an 8-10 minute video on what the Red Army did to and with German females; or make an 8-10 minute video on what Eisenhower did with the German POWs. The Truth is not always pleasant but it has the virtue of being True.
@@borisbadenov651 A lot of us that study WW2 history already know this AFAIK. There a lot of documentaries, or at least parts of other documentaries that cover it well. And although not directly related but similar, the atrocities committed by the Japanese upon the Chinese people; aka the "Nanjing Massacre", etc., (so YT doesn't censor this) too.
@@borisbadenov651 Also right I/we (many anyhow) know this. I've often brought this up of how somehow Hitler is the worst enemy ever. A popular subject as the ultimate "bad guy", etc., in movies. But then statistically there are much worst mass murders, evil people, in world history. Like you say Stalin is responsible for many more deaths than Hitler. Mostly his own people (Ukrainians anyhow) even. Stalin would have entire families killed, etc. Absolute terror and suffering for his own people. Mao Zedong tops the list at a reported *70 million* of his own people murdered. The moral of the story here is to not let a dictator, do not let communism/socialism take over your country.
People kept letting themselves be fooled, and history of the last century or two has repeated itself many times over. We are under this assault here now in the USA. There is a good number of our population that actually believes socialism is a good thing and is a viable option to switch to.
Books like the "The Gulag Archipelago" (at least one of the volumes) should be a required reading, yet apparently most college and high school students haven't even heard of the book.
Not apologizing for Hitler of course. But people often reference him as the most evil person on the planet, not realizing there has been worsetoo. All of these murderous dictators were evil on their own level.
I’m so glad this video came into my feed. I love history. Thank you
It’s crazy to think we’re are once again sliding towards this madness with the recent events in the world.
It's just how capitalism works: expanding, capturing new markets until it meets markets of other nation. If military powers behind competing nations are comparable, then it comes to war. When many people died, nations economic powers shrink and then can expand once again till next time. The best outcome for an intersted nation is to enter the war almost at it's end and not to lose too much, but to get most of the victory. That is just what USA did in WWI and WWII.
@@ilivdia yeah its totally capitalism sure same people who started this all in ww2 and ww1 still around massacring people today but its capitalism gotcha
@@ilivdia horseshit, WW2 happened because Hitler was a power hungry egomaniac who was willing to use scapegoats and hateful people to form his own empire. He wanted to be another Genghis Khan to feed his own ego. If this happens again it won't be because of competing markets, it will be because of ruthless autocrats with too much power and influence.
You have become my go-to for teaching my son about ww2. I used to teach him all from literature i have acquired growing up, but sadly have developed a neurological disorder which inhibits my ability to speak fluidly, im happy to let you speak for me on this subject. Thank you Mr. Felton
I think you found a great teacher in Mark Felton!
You're doing great work! A involved father every kid deserves.
♥️👍
well i hope you are teaching him about the mid 1800s where all the wars fought and still to be fought were planed .
May God bless you.
I wonder how many people you've inspired to study history with this channel. It's wonderful work and I appreciate it.
Filling in the giant hole left behind by the History channel. Filled the hole and overflowed with awesome content
[ISAC]Warning! An agent nearby has become rogue!
I sure am one of them.
Never considered I’d be looking at buying a subscription to a “history Netflix” but damn am I excited that I found this channel!
History is not ww2
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his rifle is an early-type pattern Mauser 98. Can't tell if it's a Gewehr 98, K98a, or K98az because the more important parts of the rifle for identification are hidden.
But the solid wood stock with flat-type buttplate allows me to say that it's quite an early production. doesn't say much about the photo itself because German troops were commonly seen with Imperial-produced Mausers well into WW2.
So much of history is lost to time, thank you for reviving the memories of the past!
agreed! now hundreds of thousands know of them!
Unfortunately today the only history worth remembering is if it serves a political purpose, or it must be erased
@@johnkelly6236 You are absolutely right. History and historiography are two different issues. If politically wanted everything is remembered and preserved in a highly emotional sort of way. If not it is simply erased.
History is a lying mixture of exaggerating and omitting.
HISTORY is a lie agreed upon. Napoleon Bonaparte.
As ABBA sang, "The history book on the shelf is always repeating itself."
Mark I so much appreciate you and your work. I congratulate you for consistently producing high quality, serious videos. Thank you for always keeping it real.
I wish they showed Mark Felton's series about WW2 in high school. Short, accurate, engaging, and not sensationalized, but conveying the true horror and utter depravity of it all.
Good work sir
My Grandmother was a nurse for the Japanese Red Cross during the war. She was stationed first in Tokyo and then in Singapore. She spoke of her experience openly. Both she and the other nurses were trained on how to use a rifle and grenades. I'm trying to imagine this 5'0" woman trying to use a Type 99 rifle that was as big as she was. My Grandmother said that, while they were trained on how to use it, they had hospital guards to maintain order and security. The only time the nurses were ever expected to use their rifles is if the enemy was kicking in the front door of their hospital.
obviously a harder woman than the soft,plastic week as piss young people coming of age right as we speak charles
Personal question. Did you ask what her reaction was when she would have encountered american soldiers post ww2 ?
American soldiers never got to singapore.. it was a british colony lol
I read a book written by a POW who was captured by the Japanese.
I wish I hadn’t because I will never get those visuals out of my mind.
The things that the majority of Japanese guards and captors did would make the Nazis puke.
And that’s not even touching on what the Japanese did to the Chinese and Koreans and Okinawa.
You know it’s bad when the Nazis are less cruel than you.
I wish our histories didn’t share these stains..our ancestors showed us how low humanity can take ourselves if we choose to and we must NEVER let ourselves forget!
Maybe by remembering and preventing these atrocities from happening again, we can all atone for our ancestors’ shame.
@@spiralrose ok, this isn’t realky what this is about
A late friend of mine was a Canadian tanker in Italy. He was captured and imprisoned. Next door was a prison for Russian women. He said they really had it bad. One morning he awoke and saw something hanging on the barb wire. As the day got brighter they were able to make out the hide of a German Shepherd dog. The starving women had lured it inside, killed it and eaten it.
Damn
Dog is nothin, peoples ate each other in leningrad. I don't know, i dont feel much remorse whenever i feel obout rapings by soviets.
Wow...so Russians eat Shepherd Pie too! 😋
I met a lady that was on the run, and one nite in their travels, they were in a farmers yard, It looked abandoned, they were thinking of hiding in the barn over the next daylight hours, they traveled on foot at nite, one of the ladies went to use the outhouse, opened the door, there were snowed over tracks to it, when she opened the door, a human body was in there, hanging, had flesh cut off it, needless to say she said they kept on going.
The brutality was insane, yet that's people at their worst.
Y prayers are for Jesus to come, as I'm tired of the insanity, yet it's been our sad human history mostly, not many Desmond Doss kind of guys.
@@davidthompson1529 I'm going to Hell for laughing at this and moreso for the fact the pun is there for a *GERMAN* shepherd's pie.🥴
That was very well put together Mark your awesome
You’re
@@ScoliosisKing22
You are
may the world never see such horrible wars again...
P.S I am adding this to my post to clear up any confusion or any ambiguity:
As others have kindly pointed out, Neuengamme itself is near Hamburg not Hannover. However, I meant that KZ-Limmer was near Hannover. Limmer is most definitely a suburb of Hannover. Also, KZ-Limmer was most definitely an Außenlager of Neuengamme. Also, the image referred to below was most definitely taken at KZ-Limmer.
Finally, in making my post below it was in no way intended to be a criticism of Mark Felton’s excellent video (as they always are!) rather it was a small point that I noticed, having recognised that very photograph and knowing where it was taken. I therefore posted this information on the history of that photograph as I thought it might be of interest to other people genuinely interested in this type of history. I certainly did not do it to criticise Mark, nor did I expect it to draw some of the negative comments that it has done. I am sorry if me pointing out the specific location (Hannover-Limmer) and some of the history of that particular photograph has offended some people, as it appears to have done.
A small point for Dr Mark Felton (in case he sees this).
The photo of the group of women @ 8.03 is in fact not women at the KZ- Ravensbruck. It is an image taken at KZ - Limmer which was one of the Außenlager (satellite camps) to the bigger KZ-Neuengamme Concentration Camp near Hannover in northern Germany.
Most of the women held there, working for the Continental rubber firm (who are even today one of Hannover’s biggest employers), were in fact former French and Polish Resistance fighters although there were some Soviet, Belgium, Italian and even Spanish women held there.
There is a memorial stone to the women of this camp at that spot there today. A memorial meeting was held to remember this just this Sunday gone on the 19th September.
Thank you .
Thank you, Derin.
Another fact lost to history
And a small point for Mr .Prof. Derin, Neuengamme wasnt near Hannover but rather Hamburg.
Neuengamme KZ, yeap where thousands of prisoners were forced to produce bricks for the Reich. Neuengamme where SS troops were imprisoned at the end of the war and were guarded by British troops. My Opa was one of the many SS-Men imprisoned.
Derin
Indeed, lots of prisoners were forced to work in Germans industry. First was ‘mr’ Porsche, he started with using pow in his factories. And let them starf there. Pregnant women where put in an old, stinky appartment building, right after having given birth, they were send back to work. The babies were left unintended and died never getting any food. That was ‘mr’ Porsche…
Love this channel! I’ve learned so much about history that’s never spoken of in schools or college history classes
Mark , Thanx for this video,
The guy wearing glasses on the left at 4:40 looks like Willy Peter Reese to me. But I might be mistaken. Thank you for the video. Very informative
This truth is so sad... We humans never learn from our past.
We willingly forget everything for our "gains"
*Rest in peace brave women, salute*
I know. You would think that the obvious takeaway from “female soldiers who are captured get raped, duh” would be “do not put women in a place where they will be captured” but apparently some genius instead took away that actually *more* women on the battlefield is the way to go.
I've had this intro song stuck in my head for a week, people are starting to star while I'm humming it in line at the convenience store which just makes me pick up the volume and intensity. It's my mistake for falling asleep with this channel on auto play 😂
Treat yourself to the full package
It's on UA-cam
Elijah Robert " Redemption's Last Chance "
Read the comments, full of MF fanboys
The World At War series intro. music is another haunting orchestral tune.
Nice when they get the reference
"Let's get this out on a tray."
@@gthaughton5647 "The Nazis: A lesson from history" BBC series fron 1997, has the haunting beginning of Brahms' A German Requiem at the start of each episode.
@@clavichord Thank you for referring Brahm. I can't read, write or compose music, but I can recognize and appreciate musical beauty when I hear it. The older that I become.. The more I find this orchestral music soothing and thought provoking allowing internal reflection.
UNDETECTED, UNEXPECTED, WINGS OF GLORY, TELL THEIR STORY
AVIATION, DEVIATION, UNDETECTED, STEALTH PERFECTED
@@electricvan3283 FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL IN SILENCE
@@markusklyver6277 cast their spells explosive violence👊😡👊
The intro soundtrack is just so unforgettably Mark Felton Productions
Dr Felton shines the torch of knowledge at the war's darkest moments. And his concise style is very welcome.
AGREED!:-) 🖖
Exactly, I hate to have to watch 1 hour of video with 10mins of real content. This is short and crisp, no bla bla
Well said . . .
The channel is a pure revenge on Germans. That is the only purpose.
@@frunsebischkek1050 Oh, well.
History springs to life when conveyed through the words of Dr Felton. It's always enlightening when unknown aspects of history are brought to light.
"unknown aspects" - these are bloody nazi war crimes, either they are recognized by UA-cam or not
@@CanadianaEast well, if he shows up his sources in the description, its ok to cite some writings, isn't it?
@@CanadianaEast well, you are right, the sources are not even shown in the description. Ironically, it says something like "credit to U.S. archives"
Using the info what the U.S. has, about the Soviet-nazi war. Neither Soviet, nor german sources
Comment on the video, not just the uploader.
@@CanadianaEast Where’s your PHD and how many books have you published? Get the fk out of here.
Those poor girls and women, truly horrifying. In the photo you can see the sheer terror on their faces, God bless them.
They delivered terror, they received terror.
@@Vorname_Nachnahme Ohh look, I spotted an edgy wehrboo. Even got a german sounding username lol. Cry me ariver cause the germans lost both world wars L 😂😂😂
@@warbeatler618
The Russian men that got captured were executed, starved, and treated like collateral.
As for the Russian women, all they had to do was bend frontwards and touch their toes to get taken for a ride of pain, but mostly pleasure. Mmmmm yes, they can't help but crave their womanly instincts of being placed into compromising positions, having foreign objects inserted into their bodies, and suffering in order to please the domineering man that's taken control of their hips 😘
they were horse
Sister of my mother Valeria Khomiakova was a pilot based in Engels. They guarded the brige acros the Volga river. She downed a German bomber.
your aunt
Was she in night bomber regiment.
Salut your sister of Mother brother.Always happy
10 bombers. All russians are famous for always telling the truth
I truly appreciate the objective explanation of the context. High quality stuff!
At 3:30, her name was Natalya Meklin, and was a commander in the 46th Guards Night Bomber Regiment, the “Night Witches.” She completed 980 combat missions. Successfully survived the war... And yes, she's VERY beatiful. Google and find her amazing pic in color... Thanks for the video, Mr. Felton. Good work!
Thanks 4 info.
I found her more pics on google.
Her full name is
Guards Lieutenant Natalya Fedorovna Meklin,No doubt She's is the Hero of the Soviet Union.
Lots of Respect for her
From India 🇮🇳🌹❤🙏
@@domingodesantaclara1130 Boy is that true. Stalin tried so hard to destroy anything of beauty in Ukraine, but he missed some of the genes that created some very beautiful people.
Part of propaganda. Same as US snipers bullshit
@@darugdawg2453 maybe she was and maybe she wasn't, but she is still beautiful
I find it complete bollocks since no one could complete 980 combat missions from 1939 to 1945 especially in that length of time
There is a fantastic book on the topic of Soviet women in WWII - The Unwomanly Face of War: An Oral History of Women in World War II-by Svetlana Alexievich. Its a heart wrenching read at times, but worth it.
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I wouldn't rely on such authors
@FilleSoleil-lt1lg why? It is a well researched book by a Nobel Prize winner that is full of personal narratives from everyday women who served in various roles during WWII.. it does go against the grain of American feminists though...
Allowing women on conscripting women in war should be a war crime akin to child soldiers
@rcuhylicstdcothereviewdude870 Soviet Union did not conscript women. They volunteered. Many demanded for days to be accepted.
Always totally shocked from watching this, or other war films...
Great saddnes😥
@Relyks Kylro I mean all films and documentaries of that WW2, really so horrific, shuddering.
How Jews and other people, were captured and treated, humiliated,
starved to death, and so tortured...
Unlike the past two videos about dogs doing cool stuff, this was rather depressing. But history often is, and we shalt not hide that away.
War is depressing
War is hell.
@@ottomeyer6928 yep the only people who enjoy it, have never been in it.
But we are hiding history. Tearing down statues, rewriting history that has been taught in schools for a hundred years, “leaders” who believe the Holocaust didn’t happen, etc. If we can’t have our children learning true history, how can future generations learn from previous generations mistakes? History repeats…
Indeed, women had it rough. Whether it's as comfort women In Japan, or the german women that were raped in the masses by americans where then it was inappropriate to talk about after because of what Wehrmacht did, to even so much as not being allowed to fight if they wanted to.
Amazing. I never knew any of this, and for anyone out there that thinks this is too horrifying and it should be taken down then history will be doomed to repeat itself if we erase everything that makes us feel uncomfortable.
The US Senate passed a bill thru Committee just this month that would expand the draft to women. Same people who pushed the abomination of female soldiers in Russia are responsible. Far too late to save USA. In today's Christian Russia by contrast, women are strictly prohibited from combat.
@@scottwillie6389 ..." pushed the abomination of female soldiers in Russia ...".---LOL. The Soviet girls were very eager to fight back your Nazi pals. Especially when the German LEBENSRAUM and GENERALPLAN OST "policies" left 14-17 MILLION ordinary Civilians massacred, only in the Soviet Union. That included a lot of their sisters, moms, kids, granpas, etc., etc...
@@scottwillie6389 ..."in today's Christian Russia by contrast, women are strictly prohibited...".---There are some 100.000 women in the Russian Army today. Hardly a "small" number anywhere.
@@scottwillie6389 Women in Canada and America receive the same rights and privileges as men, so why should they not be expected to bear arms like men in time of war.
@Jake Johansson ..."not in combat ranks...".---They all go through the standard training and would be in close combat only for national defense (like the Soviets did). Russia is not facing a massive invasion to put the 100,000 in "combat ranks" today.
My grandparents met in Dachau. I have been told that my grandmother was known for handling and repairing tanks. I don't know if she was Russian or Ukrainian. My grandfather was displaced from the area of former Yugoslavia. "For work" he was told. He was probably of Slavic/Russian background but his last name sounds very Polish. If I want to find their records, where should I start? Thank you for your input.
What is his last name
I'm very grateful to you for uploading all this footage of the women and pow pits. It's simply heartbreaking. It speaks volumes as to what has driven the Russian people to be completely prepared militarily. It's a complex situation and I pray people see this
Clearly they didn't prepare enough and are still losing...I'm sorry they don't get a pass from inflicting atrocities, just because they suffered them in the past. Complex situation my a**.
Because throughout all their history they were pregnant with war? Because for hundreds of years they have been waging wars on every neighbor, people, territory and country possible? Because they brought Hitler to power and were allies with him and signed a treaty about dividing Europe in half? That’s why they were preparing intensively for war. Because they have started ww2 together with Hitler, capturing half the Poland, Baltic states, attacking Romania, Finland. That is a good reason to be prepared, when you are always in the state of war
Excellent reporting, as usual. Thank you, Mark Felton.
Thank you.
My uncle's brother was captured at the Casserine Pass in Tunisia, spending the rest of the war in POW camps. He told me of the Nazi atrocities against the Soviets. Sickening !
@God Bless you He was like an uncle to me.
I’m glad I watched this before going to bed, it was a real positive note to end the day on
Спасибо Вам за Ваш труд, дорогой Марк Фелтон!
My great grandfather was captured by German solders and transported in Berlin, he was prisoner for almost 2 years he survived. He was in wwi solder and 5 his brothers died in wwi, when he return to home at the 1918 Bulgarian army burned his house and kill all animals. He think to suicide because he lost everything. But thanks God he build new house and start new life and survive ww2. Big thank you Red Army for stop Nazi. I am from Serbia.
At times the fighting on the German/Soviet front was of unimaginable brutality at times in a spiral of hate, revenge and counterrevenge. I had the pleasure of having long casual conversations with eyewitnesses from those days, who did participate in the fighting between German units and Soviet all female units. Those stories would not make it into movies or history books as they were pure horror for both sides and not easy to digest. @Mark Felton Productions
"Brutality at times in a spiral of hate, revenge and counterrevenge" - you are traing to put a victims on the same level with agressors. Bosch! Skanley your nasty month! First, replete for millions of Russians killed by germans, and after reasoning about "suffering" of the germans people. Mudak!
@@AlASokolov , no, I am actually not trying to weight anything against anything here. Also I am not talking about the large scale or who is responsible for what on a political level. I am only referring to the hand to hand combat on the ground platoon agains platoon. And that was more cruel than any of us late born can imagine. That is why I talked to people who were actually there and suffered and committed atrocities.
You had the PLEASURE??? Very poor wording.
@@AlexanderBlumenau Now imagine that the majority of Russians from childhood had the opportunity to talk with witnesses of that war. That is why it is easier for Russians to discover outright lies about that war. At the same time, people in the West and in the United States are absolutely washed out by the Cold War propaganda.
The war between Nazi Germany and Soviet union was truly a battle of evil against evil. Massive numbers of people were caught in the midst of all the horror. God bless us for not having to live through anything like those people had to.
I was asking myself the same thing, some days ago, while reading about Lyudmila Pavlichenko. Thanks for exploring such interesting themes, with such depth, and also shedding a light into the Wermacht war crimes.
Let's not forget, all were guilty of horrific war crimes except the British
@@jacobseed6537 Irony check.
Germans were well aware of her apparently, and would threaten that if they ever captured her they'd cut her into 300 pieces, over all the men she killed during her service.
@@maiidegeese5052 she killed nazis not men
@@jacobseed6537 lol good joke
In the Soviet union weamon we're usually used for bomber planes and things like that but they did fight alongside the men
Another outstanding nugget of ww2 Mr. Felton, greetings from Mexico
A topic that isn't talked about enough, thank you Mark for bringing this
@George Washington no need to be political here
@@shouryajitbhattacharya2900 dada apni daal bath kheye shuki thakun. Peace
@@dante666jtwhat, you wanna be political in a history vid? Anpnar ke political thakar ache to apni political video te jete paren, peace
@@shouryajitbhattacharya2900 only when leaving current politics out of the picture will you understand history.
@@michaelkovacic2608 yep, correct
I thought I knew quite a lot about the war, but you always seem to find new and interesting things.
Half of his story isn't the truth. So you can't hear this before this untruth history. Stalin was a comminist, Felton say this. Stalin was a mussmurder like Hitler and he killed millions long before Hitler it do. And look for 'Wlassow Army ' , which fight on german side against Stalin. This show that it isn't the truth, that the half of russian war prisoner died after they give up fighting. Over a million want fight against Stalin when they are war prisoners,but mussmurder Hitler only let nearly 100 000 fight as soldiers on german side, he was to stupid and so he do this by his ill way of thinking.
@@marcosegna2951 Why would the germans want to use labor camp prisoners, aka untrained civilians from a forgien country, in a war?
This is foolish.
Stalin ordered mass executions of polish army officers numbers. Of 22.000 if believed. by the NKVD the ( Katyn massacre) 1940 .... (captured during German /Soviet invasion of Poland 1939 the Russians completely denied any involvement right up to the 1990s the Russians claimed the German army commited theses atrocities) ....... It is sometimes overlooked that both countries signed a agreement. Molctov- Ribbentrop pack basically a deal not to go to war against each other. The treaty also included a secret protocol which allowed both country's to redefine it's boarders (spheres of influence) across Poland Finland Lithuania Latvia Estonia so Stalin ordered the killings of polish officers to eliminate any possible uprisings against the Soviet take over of Poland after the battle of Britain Winston Churchill struck a deal with Stalin to releases all polish officers to help reform the polish army in the UK to help fight the Nazis Churchill at the time probably wasn't aware of the executions of polish prisoners. There you go think doc felton has covered this too
@@marcosegna2951 You are talking absolute nonsense.
Germans were so kind letting those women stay behind lines lol. 10/10
Your starting music is my ringtone
Mr Felton you are the best
This is a brilliant and extremely important video. Thank you.
Considering the brutality and abuse most faced in the camps, getting shot might’ve been actually more “humane”… such are the horrors of war
Not to mention the captured soldier and civilians of the japanese that even the germans tell them to calmdown.
Gettjn rped everyday. U act like the soviets didnt do the same
@@theresurrection33 no they didnt kill tens of millions of germans
everytime a war crime gets brought up, it becomes a war crime contest «butttt da soviets didit so itss ssjustifiex!!!!!»
@@theresurrection33 The Soviets didn't start the war the Germans did. Never forget that.
I knew a German soldier that served on the eastern front. He told me men, women and children of all ages would march on his machine gun. He said most of them had nothing. Some he said picked up sticks or stones. Others eating utensils, about 1
In 100 had a gun. He was shot 3 times. Part of his face was shot off. He said it was 22 hours sometimes before his relief would show up. From firing so much the machine gun barrel would turn red hot. He stated that if he tried to leave his machine gun post that there was an ss waiting to put a bullet in this head. I could tell from his expressions how much this bothered him.
My dad was with the RCAF in England. He could speak fluent German. 2 months before he died he told me if they had too many German prisoners they would turn them over to the Poles. My dad suffered from ptsd. He was not easy to live with. He was probably told never to mention what happened to those prisoners.
Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately man of the documentaries fail to emphasis how communism and nazism differentiate when it comes to gender. In Russia there was no differentiation between men and women, and even children at times. It was merely another fodder to die... In actual fact, Stalin killed far more of his people than the Germany ever did...that is rarely taught or spoken.
@@Bahamuttiamat whoever created the virus might have killed more at this point.
@@Bahamuttiamat what a BS, geez.
@@BahamuttiamatStalin was a Georgian Lutheran. Russians are Orthodox...they are not Stalin's people. Never were.
Ни кто детей и женщин в атаку не посылал, твой родственник участвовал в массовых расстрелах и казнях
Another one of many chapters of madness in that period.
I saw you on a Stalin documentary doctor. It was pretty cool that I actually knew who one of the guys they were interviewing was. You did a very good job.
What's the name of the documentary?
This video told everything I expected from the title. The eastern front was brutal !
It was massive and brutal front.
War is always brutal. Every war. The human race at its worst. I know no exception to this.
@@stefanomanferlotti1517 Yes but never in the history of humanity has there been something so terrible and brutal than the eastern front in WW2. Untold amounts of suffering and hardship, by far the single most brutal and destructive front of any war in human history
@@stefanomanferlotti1517 And not quite true, there has been plenty of wars have with relatively little brutality.
One german soldier was interviewed after the war by Max Hastings a war novelist, he said when he was moved from the Eastern front to fight on the Western front to fight Americans and British and commonwealth soldiers. He fought he was on holiday because that was the comparison between East and west .
Felton would be a great tour guide on a battle field tour.
Thanks!!
Mark Felton should have a regular tv channel like History Channel. His work is excellent. The narrative is an example many that make videos in You Tube could learn from.
My wife's grandaunt was in the 1077th anti-aircraft unit in her early-20s. They used the artillery to shoot tanks attacking Stalingrad and was captured and never heard from again. Pretty incredible.
That was a brave last stand by them, it bought time for the defenders to rush in and prevented a quick capture of the city or losing most of it in the first day.
@@Wolfen443 Very brave to attack and destroy a foreign country, very brave ... yes ...
@@velesrise2172 , the comment was about the Russian Women that manned the the aa guns that slowed down the German advance, by the way Stalin had plans to attack Germany too in a few years. So Hitler just jumped the gun really anyway.
@@Wolfen443 And what was this German attack plan called, during what period was it created? What was the point for Stalin to attack Germany if the USSR had all the necessary resources and Germany supplied the USSR with all the necessary technological equipment for the development of the country?
@@velesrise2172 , the German plan was called Barbarossa, Stalin needed a few years to rebuilt his forces at least so there was no plan ready by Russia yet.
the broad ≈ die Braut
the wench ≈ das Weib
so Flintenweiber means more closely rifle wenches (indeed, it's plural)
Women in the USSR were not mobilized as men, most of them were volunteers who wanted to defend their motherland. A good example is described in the movie "Battle for Sevastopol ".
In some places, but in other places they were conscripted for sure, especially as they lost massive amounts of territory to the west. They may have started behind the lines, but as the losses mounted, they mixed into the front lines. Most of it was out of desperation, like all other acts towards the end of war.
This was an astonishing video Mark. Thank you for the history lesson.
Just telling history like it was. Mark, your contribution is valuable!
Comment on the video, not just the uploader.
@@DrJones20 should I comment on the original comment or your comment?
@@DrJones20 or should you also comment on the video, not other people’s comments 🧐
@@DrJones20 comment on the video, not just the poster...
More great content thank you
My fathers uncle told me of a story at Dunkirk, he was a tank driver
Cruelty is the only best way to deter the enemy to avoid fighting and give up.
A stark reminder of how brutal that war was
All wars are brutal.
@@dancancade7101 yea but in most wars, people aren't trying to exterminate another group of people, or in the case of ww2, dozens of groups.
@@dancancade7101 some wars were won by defeating the enemy armies, occupying territories. In ww2 the nazis tried to exterminate whole nations, killing men, women, and children alike. It was another level of dirt, the possible lowest point where people can sink
Cactus. What the hell. Only the Axis declared racial war and a war of annihilation. They got it for sure. 👍 Dresden and Hiroshima are testaments to their punishment.
@@jozseftoth9368 then there's Pol pot
I feel like the Soviet female soldiers of WW2 are a missed opportunity of the movie industry to make realistic films with strong female characters, instead of just rebooting films with a female cast like ghost busters. Probably hasn't been touched on heavily due to the negative connotations of the Soviet Union though, which is unfortunate.
There are films awesome Russia films.
Russophobia (a kind of hate/fear against millions of people), is far stronger in Hollywood than its 'woke' fervor. It's something similar to 'classic' Racism and Anti Semitism. And equaly irrational and compulsive.
Thankfully you can watch here on YT a good movie about this matter, like "The Dawns Here Are Quiet" in ts two versions (1972, 2015). for free... Or look for "Battalion" (2015), about the real Russian female soldiers of WW1. Another good film, but it's not in YT.
Please do not do it now because Russian women would be played by black actors today.
@@magiorazkomarom9551 I know Hollywood can be stupid, but hell they probably would respect history.
Edit: I was wrong.
Congratulations Profesor Felton well Done very good shortmetrage from Venezuela
This is the side of the whole female Soviet soldier story that no one talks about
Its the side of the whole Germany attrocities promulgated not only by Nazis as later propaganda encouraged the World to believe that no one talks about is more to the point.
Stalin's Soviet Union was every bit as viscous and nasty, albeit manifest in slightly different ways, than Hitler's Third Reich.
Even so.
When you realise this was what happened, suddenly, Stalin's paranoia and visceral hatred of the West in general and the Germans in particular makes some sort of sense.
@@Farweasel yeah that doesn't excuse killing peasants and burning villages bro
If you hate communism then go for the head of the snake, the government
@@Farweasel not innocent civilians
@@comradekenobi6908 copy that
@@lurk7967 And yet the population of the Soviet Union and China increased in the 20th Century. It was only when Russia reverted to capitalism that the life expectancy fell. By contrast, there were 8 million people in Ireland in 1800. In 1900, there were 3 million. But we don't like to talk about how much better capitalism is at genocide than communism.
For those interested in learning more about the experiences of female frontline Soviet soldiers, I recommend "The Unwomanly Face of War" by Svetlana Alexievich.
Yes, this book is a very good, if rather grim, description of the life of women in the red army.
The unbelievable suffering of the Soviet people during WW2 is mind-boggling.
Came here to say this myself - truly exceptional book, and Alexievich has produced many other brilliant books on the Soviet experience from WWII to Chernobyl and Afghanistan to life after the collapse - she truly earned her Nobel Prize.
They were raped, tortured, mutilated and then shot or murdered. This is how the Germans treated captured Soviet female soldiers. Soviet female soldiers often blew themselves up with grenades before they were captured because being caputrd by the Germans warranted a horrible death and misery
My fathers, father, brothers, uncles mother fought in the great war with the switzerland army forces near the franco-lorraine regions of France, they were captured and enslaved for 50 years in a germanic salt mine, later released by Sir Todd Howard.
Thank you for your willingness to share the difficult parts of history as well as the heroic and uplifting. We have no way to prevent such happening again without the knowledge of what has happened in the past. Unfortunately, little of this history is taught in our schools or acknowledged by our governments.
My grandfather was a German soldier and he said as a soldier he wasn't afraid of the regular male opponents but he was afraid of the Soviet women. They were tough.
yer they cut your balls off my father fought them as well
Mark, as a military historian on youtube you are the best. Every American Family with roots before 1941 has experienced WW2 personally. There are plenty of stories to tell. As well as in Korea and Vietnam.
Why only american?
@@PanikGrafik why not?
@@dng6121 you wrote that as if other people have not experienced WW2 personally
@@PanikGrafik we lost our teenagers to other countries when their own men could not defend themselves. no one saved the usa except to bring the potato salad.what has the world done for the usa ? but take our tax paying citizens money.
A disturbing story, but a necessary one. Thanks for bringing truth and clarity out of the dark.
This channel is simply the best channel in all of UA-cam. Thank you sir for all your hard work in educating us. May people learn the lessons of war so we don't have to repeat them over and over again. God Bless!
If you want to learn the real history of WWII, read David Irvings books.