The Rape of German Women during WWII | Lisa Slater | Women’s History Month | USC Shoah Foundation
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- Опубліковано 28 бер 2023
- "Stalin gave his troops the right to rape, to steal, to kill, to do whatever they want to do. And believe me, they did.”
Usually, when we discuss the Holocaust, it’s easy to distinguish between the perpetrators and victims. However, some instances of wartime violence blur these lines, and identifying the perpetrator/victim becomes unclear. Lisa Slater, for example, was a Protestant Christian German woman who served as a teletypist for the German army during World War II. She claims to have been unaware of the persecution of Jews (and the Nazi’s other victims). In her USC Shoah Foundation testimony, Lisa recalls the Soviet soldiers’ violent victimization of her and other German women.
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My aunt was in Berlin during the collapse. Like most women, she never spoke about her experiences, but everyone in the family knew what had happened, just not how often. She was what was then called hysterical, today it would be called post-traumatic stress disorder.
my mum was Austrian ,same with her, when the war ended she was in Germany worked as telephonist in the army her and the other young girls had to make their way home any way they could she never spoke about it other than she hated the Russians said they were never given leave they behaved like barbarians.I am 75 and wish I had asked her questions I now realise how her behavior was sometimes a bit strange ,deep down she was a strong woman brought us up with a good work ethic we never had a great deal but didnt complain .
Hysterical is a very accurate description.
@@saraschneider6781 Hysterical is a dirty word today, although of course I know that the ancient Greeks attributed the clinical picture to a wandering uterus.
@@rolandscherer1574 can yer be more FUKKKING RESPECTFUL TO DAMENS??!
@@margaretcox9167 War crimes are war crimes. War criminalistic behavior is both institutional and personal, BUT WHAT HUMANS DO TO EACH OTHER IS NOTHING BUT OUTRAGEOUS AND DISGUSTING TO THE MAX. GOTT BLESS YOUR MUTTER UND SI.
My grandmother was a child in Berlin during the fall. She told me how the Russians made them keep their apartment doors open or unlocked. My great grandmother disguised her a lot younger then she was (she was actually 11) and my great grandmother made herself look a lot older with ash. My grandmothers elderly grandad was there through some and would shoo the soldiers away when they would come in drunk saying “only old ladies and babies here.” Absolutely get what the SS did was evil and they were monsters, but children and innocent always are the ones that suffer from others crimes. My grandmother also said when she was little she had to stay with nuns while she was very sick and had to be quarantined. She said they were incredibly lovely. When the Russian’s came she found out when she was older the nunnery was attacked and the nuns were murdered and raped. War is sad, anyone that messes with children, no matter what side need to be strung up.
Soviets are worse than the SS
The Eastern Front was pure hatred and fight to the death. We in the West tend to think that D-Day and the Allied advance through France were pivotal. but it was the cauldron in the East that defeated Germany. The price the German civilians paid was horrendous and inexcusable, but it was also inevitable after what the Germans did in their ascendency. One cannot underestimate the animosity the Russians felt for the Germans, an animosity well deserved. I can sympathize with the German civilians who suffered at the hands of the Russians, but I also remember how these same civilians elected and supported Hitler. Actions have consequences.
rest in peace so sorry ops
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True war is sick, My Grandma whole life couldn't forget when Germans shot her school friends in front of her and the whole town, she was 12 and couldn't get rid of that till 96
Guy I use to work with, his aunt was a nurse in the Philippines when the Japanese invaded. He said she had been raped so many times by them and had to give herself so many home abortions, she lost the ability to bear children.
That is beyond fucked up...
@@greghauser742Look up 'The Rape of Nanking'. The Japanese were by far the most brutal towards non-combatants and POW's.
@@wildbikerbill6530 They took Filipina women captive and brought them along for sex slaves. To this day the japanese govt wont admit it.
@@wildbikerbill6530 Not quite. They have recently been challenged in that regard by Hamas.
@@coveyssteve i hope thats sarcasm
I met a German lady that was institutionalized most of her life. She told me these stories and about how she had to smother her newborn baby so the group she was with was not found. I cannot imagine the hell her life was.
Oh God, that poor woman, no wonder she was institutionalized. She must have seen you as a good person to reveal her pain to you.💔
💔🙏🏾
I read a similar story in a famous book called The unwomanly face of war.
sadly things like this happen in wars, the unusual times women with children are on the run from dangerous men who want to kill them not just capture and enslave those are "peace times" in George Orwell's 1984 war is just the senseless slaughter. Democracy and Communism offer Good Cop Bad Cop flavors and fashions of Fascism to choose from. Victims and Villain's alike Voting for Vices uniparty of dark souls.
we suppose to feel sorry for germans now?? they started the war
And it’s sickening to know that many of these perpetrators got away with it, probably lived on to have descendants walking around not knowing what their grandparents or great-grandparents did.
Look at the Epstein sex scandal documentary in our days perpetrators got away.
That's why when I see old people, especially old men, I can't help but wonder what h0_rrendous things they may have done in their lives 😢
There descendants are probably in Ukraine doing what Grandpa did
I'm truly sorry for whose women. But o you know what during the WW2 did their husbands, sons, fathers, uncles, nephews in Soviet Union? How many of them got away with their crimes?
@@mikehoncho7252 descendants might be consist of Georgian, Ukranian who leave in Russia, Estonian, Latvian, Linvenian etc
It wasn't just the Russian soldiers raping women. My grandfather's cousin was almost rape by a African American soldier..
Her mother help a American General who had stomach problems, he gave her his name etc. When the African American soldier tried to rape her daughter she gave the soldier the name of the General then he stop what he was doing..
(This is all fact my grandfather witnessed this as a boy along side his mother.)
In what country? Seeing how black soldiers were in segregated units.””
Of course, it had to be a African American.
It was 200,000 rapes by us soldiers
My Korean mother in law was abused by a black GI during the Korean War. My ex husband detested blacks because of it.
Just had to throw african Americans in huh ? We aren't German idc idc we were slaves give us a break
I was told growing up this happened to my grandfather’s cousins, 2 girls, teenagers. Eventually 1 committed suicide, the other survived but was in & out of the hospital her adult life. She suffered from breakdowns as a result of the rapes by Russian soldiers.
Do you know what germans did in Balkan 🤬
shannon- ahh was in church here in new zealand and met a lad from Hamburg.- ahh said ahh wont talk about the war, and he said thats okay- ''My Granddad escaped from battle off Stalingrad and made it back too Hamburg and my Grandmother was raped in the Battle off Berlin.''
@@monikaantonikj7983Appalling atrocities happened on all sides. The German women who were raped by Russians (approx 2 million) are not responsible for what some German soldiers did elsewhere. These women deserve to have their stories told as what they went through was horrific and shouldn’t be silenced, they were victims too.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
I read there were 1,000,000 illegitimate babies born 9 months after the Russian invasion in the Soviet zone. They haven't changed a bit.
@@monikaantonikj7983 Do you know what would happen when a SS/Wehrmacht soldier commited such crime? Penalty battalion or execution by firing squad.
When I hear such stories, I develop an attitude or belief that it’s only the enemy soldiers that do the raping etc, but sadly it’s our allies too, and am reminded of my uncle (a New Zealander) who fought in the Vietnam war alongside our allied US soldiers, and he witnessed atrocities committed by these US soldiers of raping the women and pillaging in each village as they progressed throughout the war. My uncle came away when the war ended with such a disgust of the US and wanted nothing to do with anything of the US, for example, my cousins weren’t allowed to watch US tv programs! I don’t know military ways, but it seems ALL soldiers have a right to commit such horrendous crimes against women during wartime, which to me is just diabolical! War is usually started by pathological men and fought by men, yet it’s the women & children that suffer the most!
Hey a man gotta get his it’s life !!
I’d have to disagree with your statement of woman getting the worst of war. I’d rather be raped than die surely. Also president Johnson was popular amongst woman. A majority of American woman remained unaffected at home while they voted for a president who forcefully drafted American men sending them to their death in Vietnam. Around 60% of women favored Johnson. Yet only 10,000 woman took responsibility for their elected officials in Vietnam.
You need to understand why high command allowed these things in Vietnam.
A short summary is that because the tours were only 1 year long on average, most combat vets were leaving as new recruits were coming in to replenish.
This lead to a lot of “fragging” if you don’t know what that means look it up.
So in order for the platoon leaders to keep order and prevent themselves from being fragged by their own privates a lot of atrocities were “allowed” but not because USA command wanted that, it was to keep the military personnel from defecting or worse mutinying.
Not saying your uncle isn’t justified in his hate or disgust with those soldiers, but it’s not as simple as saying:
US soldiers were raping women and killing babies.
If those soldiers hadn’t been “allowed” to relieve some stress from losing friends, being on the front lines, fighting an enemy that you can’t see, being away from families, and honestly a lot of them were criminals inscripted into the military to avoid civilian justice, I know of a handful of stories myself of people being taken by military out of jail or prison to avert criminal record.
Yes Vietnam was messed up, we shouldn’t have been there in the first place but imagine how much worse things would have been for the military or our country if some of the things had not been allowed.
There’s only so many times you can hang soldiers for this as punishment before they turn on you.
They weren’t professional soldiers.
They were basically mercenaries.
Damn I had a very informative comment that got deleted
@@xman666soad Thanks for explaining!
So horrible and terrible. The evilness that people can do to others especially the women and children is just beyond comprehension..
Why especially women and children?
Are men’s lives and well-being less important?
@@Patrickstarrrrr69 No, all are equally important but women and children are physically weaker than men ie Defence.
Don't invade a country than
@@ZayithyahYisraal true, also more needy and annoying and totally helpless without men
@@davidluu4719the children raped invaded a country? That’s crazy
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing".
Anyone who does nothing against evil is not good at all.
And these kinds of people will also suffer when the judgment comes.That's why people should watch out what their government is doing.Especually, from democratic countries.
@@T15L94 you are very wrong!!! Sold into democracy!!!
How do you define a "good man"?
Humans aren't good this is a continuous cycle that will never end
But are they really good men if they do nothing?
I lived in Germany for much of the 60s, from the ages of 11 to 17. My dad was military and stationed there and when he retired, continued to work there for an agency of the U.S. Govt. I was curious about WWII history and living there piqued that interest. To my mother’s great discomfort, I’d come home from the PX newsstand with paperbacks that were coming out at the time (1961-62) with what I suppose were the early wave of holocaust survivors’ accounts. They freaked me out but I could not stop reading them. It was a light bulb moment for me as a 13 year old that the world could be insanely brutal and I realized if the Nazis could do it, it could happen again in other places. As a result, I could never looked at adult authority in the same away as I had. Another book that I always saw at the PX newsstand was entitled The Big Rape. I was a little embarrassed to browse it at the newsstand, but I finally did. It was nothing but harrowing accounts of survivors of what this woman describes. More brutal insanity from the other side. I don’t know if that book is still in print.
@@kariyobaker9617your comment shows your immature consciousness the brutality of crimes against humans are never about payback they are about being brainwashed exactly like she says in the beginning
the american allies did it as well, nobody dares to talk about this, 800000 german women were raped after capitulation. Just recently in a convention for human rights the americans voted against that rape should be handeled as a war crime, the germans as well.
@@kariyobaker9617 your comment shows what a zombie like sicko you are-
@kariyobaker9617 I didn't realize that unarmed surrendered women and children could be in for payback?? As for the Soviets, rape was really a tool for the Allies, not the Germans.
The Germans like the Soviets used death, forced labor camps, indiscriminate attacks on civilians, and so forth, but the Germans found rape distasteful, and it was generally not tolerated. The Germans were not humane, but this is not a tit for tat where the Germans did it first, because this really was just an Allied action in Europe.
Pay back is a beach
raping is morally wrong, it doesn't matter if it is Germans doing it to French, Polish women or Soviets to German Women, or Japanese Korean, and Chinese women. this is not specific to one nation but to some men
raping in war is deliberate to destroy the soul. If you remember, the husband couldn't tolerate it any more and then was shot. Now, imagine the husband not protesting and living his life with his wife after the Russians left. It happened to him and to thousands others, it's an act of violence to destroy the spirit of the woman who is raped and the men who can't protect her. It's not just an attack against one woman. It's an attack on the nation.
…or Americans doing it to Vietnamese women
Or Americans to Iraqis?
Americans to Holocaust survivors?
@@AlexAndra-jh6hvif that happened it was wrong, why would you even ask that? Most americans are against the rapes and massacres of vietnam. Why would iraq be any different? Do you just ASSume all Americans are unapologetic hypocrites? Sounds like prejudice to me.
Hungarian women as well when the Russians came through. WW2 was horrific to women and children😢
Yes. I grew up with a friend whose mother was a child in Hungary during the war. She suffered from trauma her whole life after witnessing her mother, grandmother, sister's and an aunt all brutally raped in their kitchen by Russian soldiers. She was one of the sweetest women I've ever met💌
@@lalani888blue Were they ethnic Russians or Ukrainian or the Soviet Central Asian troopers?
But let’s be honest. It was way, WAAAY worse for the men in war than the women
This is war! The destroyer of humanity's soul. It should never be promoted or romaticized on any side.
It's not just "war", it's an indiscriminate war. Ideally the battlefield should be limited to outskirts where no civilians are harmed. We used to have planned wars like this 2000 years ago. This rape culture is relatively new
Everyone is quick to thank a vet, but they forget civilians pay the largest price in every war.
It's not a competition both payed a large price... Just because you feel that one side had it much worse doesn't cancel the sacrifice or hardship of the other side.... Tell me you're simpleminded without telling me you're simpleminded.
Civilians die in wars more frequently than soldiers.
@@killermarfidyoh138 May want to do a little research before posting.
@@lfw641Once again my statement rings true again... Tell me you're simpleminded without telling me you're simpleminded....
@@lfw641Might want to not make it look like a oppressed competition before posting... Makes you look woke.
That's beyond horrendous. Today's kids feel their boundaries have been crossed when you discuss their gender.
i think its fair! because the German army did that exact same thing to our people! and eye for an eye! tooth for a tooth!
@@SlavicUnionGaming - you think raping is fair? You think evil overcomes evil? You think having no moral high ground creates a moralistic society? Why do we have police then? Should we just go back to the wild west and create a society of evil? Jesus said "if we took an eye for an eye it would leave the whole world blind." He was right. I don't know who raised you, but whoever your parents are tell them that they failed.
@@SlavicUnionGamingAnd still today Russian soldiers do the same to Ukrainian women. They'll never change. It's a shame!
@@SlavicUnionGaming bolsheviks were scum
True! Let's not forget Putin's War Crimes and his War Criminals.@@Lazendra
This is why you don’t let the evil genie of War out of its bottle…..evil begets evil….
We are already in world War three and it’s going to escalate big
Huh? What did the women do to deserve the biggest mass rape in history
I can't argue with that logic. And I'm a guy who spent 8 years in the military.
There was no war in Ireland in 1847 when the English killed 50 percent of the population
@@GunCareHealthControlWW2 was fought almost purly on secular grounds, in fact most wars since the french revolution war. L take
My dad went into German farmhouses after the war and he wouldnt tell me what the Russians had done to the German occupants…..it must have been bad..
It was very bad but inform yourself about what the Gernans Einsatzgruppen did during Operation Barbarossa! Especially a group called the Dirlewanger Brigade.
@sueperglue8847 Shup up with your what-about ism. That's the same crap the soviets did to excuse their actions. They're no better than the nazis.
Apparently the Russian tomb in Tiergarten is called Tomb of the Unknown rapist by Berliners.
Fitting.
I don't understand. As soon as the Berlin wall came down, why didn't the Germans smash that tomb to smithereens? They should, you know.
Lmao, I would like to see what you would do to the Germans if they killed 16 million civilians in your country.
It’s also an ukrainian tomb since half of the names are ukrainian
As a Jewish woman I am horrified by this story. No civilian deserve this kind of torture. I am so sorry. Rape is not a resistence. It will never be. Even now it still goes on. what happen to my sisters in Israel - I can not describe with words. R.i.p Shani Lok, who was raped and her dead body was paraded half naked as a trophy on gaza streets - this video will never go out of my mind.
Ask hundreds of thousands of Palestinian mothers who lost kids because of Israeli bombs.....
I agree with you.... also my heart breaks for all the women hostages who endure horrific sexual abuse...I keep praying to God to protect them and rescue them...to guard them from that abuse and to rescue all hostages...🙏...may God also protect all Israeli soldiers from harm🙏
It was proven they were treated nicely, they Israeli women) said themselves, you only try to cover your genocide!@@lydiapetra1211
lazu nacisti kako zinu, valjda ste do sada to naucili ili treba jos vise da vas pobiju
don't forget the 8000 palestinian children killed.
My mother and grandmother survived ww2 and a concentration camp and neither one would watch a war movie
Remember their names. 🙏🫂🫶🏻
sorry about what happened to your mom and grandmom. My mom and all the women were captured by the Russians and were in a war camp for 4 years. War is so awful, and you wonder why we are supporting it now with what's going on in the Ukraine and Middle East. We don't want it to spread and should contain it rather than send more money and make the evil coporations richer. What your mom and grandmother went through, no one should have to go through ever. From what I can tell, they made it out alive and so that's good you had some time with them on this earth. God Bless you.
@@DrJones-nh4my thank you,yes they survived,but my mother nearly starved to death while in that camp.my grandmother live to 89 and my mother is still alive and douing well today at the age of 86...my feelings are people protesting this country have no clue how good they have it...bless you
My FIL served with US and he couldnt watch any war movies either. He would get nightmares. He saw a lot he was in Africa, Normandy, Battle.of the Bulge even liberated a camp..he rarely spoke of the war
😢😢😢😢
A recent study indicated that the rapes continued after the war by British, French and American victors. It ways taboo to discuss or prosecute. My deceased mother was German, but I also have great sorrow for the rape victims of the German military and national-socialist.
Any British troops who were caught, accused, or proved to have raped the German women were arrested by the Military Police, and tried by Courts Martialled. If found guilty they were sent to a military prison in the UK. No distinction was made between an officer, NCO or OR's.
As for the French and US military I have no idea what happened in their sectors.
What is also known is that there were many consensual sexual liasons between German women and British military personnel. The women offered sexual favours in return for food, cigarettes etc.
It was not policy as it was with the Red Army…an army of rapists.
Another point - any crimes involving British troops and German people, once a Civil Authority was operating, the military handed the person over to the Polizei for questioning etc. If a decision was made to prosecute, they were held in military custody and appeared in the German Court.
I do know that US military 'vanished' if the got back to any US military establishment.
@@Volcano-Man What does 'vanished' mean could you disclosed, please?
@@Volcano-Manwe were told in school that it was the same story with soviet soldiers.
This is OFTEN unreported of wars and the aftermath ALL OVER THE WORLD! Women and children are the ones who suffer most in the war's men wage!
Men, yeah, hillary clinton, condolezza rise, margareth thatcher, victoria nulan, all were men
Wow, such a historical majority! Also, when one writes men, it is often used to represent mankind. And SOLDIERS, who commit these atrocities are male by and large.
Nah, men always die in wars, women get to live.
If you go to a war cimetery and read the names and numbers on the stones, you will notice most are of men in their Young age. Young men, not women, not the older people ( especially not the very tiny elite of them calling for the war), not even the children.. but Young men are the ones who suffers most in wars, since the die most.
@@edanpaz3458They are not 'elite'. They are the scum of the earth.
WW2 was horrible esp for civilians. Russian women were raped too.
Second hand trsuma is a real thing. I cant listen to protect myself. I have such compassion to what these and other women have suffered. The internet has opened us up to hearing things we might never hear. History is very important, healing from it's ravages is important. Praying God washes these wounds.
And sadly the perpetrators were never held accountable since they won the war. Only the side that lost ever got held accountable for atrocities it committed
Who invaded the other first??? If you break into a beehive, do not expect any bees swarming at you!!!
Then don't show your face in Europe.
When a country kills millions of people, there is little remorse for the people of that country. I am sure the Soviet Union encouraged it with the what the Germans did to their people.
@@davido3026if you strategically plan to eradicate an entire race, it's difficult to justify the appeal to the referee to call time just as the result is going the opposite way to the one you planned for.
@@davido3026 doesn't justify atrocities against civilians. And it damn sure don't justify rape
Thank you for your witness testimony, it is abhorrent and unacceptable the evil in this world x we will never ever forget x GOD Bless you all x much love from the UK xx
@zaptick our Heavenly Father would have us live happily in His grace, and His mercy shines through His and His Son Lord Jesus' plan of salvation x only through Lord Jesus' atoning blood will we have eternal life with Them and Their good unfallen angels x we have a short time of probation left and should look up as our redemption draweth nigh but how perfect will it be to be gathered up to Him with His angels and live on the new heaven and earth where there will be NO more sin or pain or death praise our Heavenly Father x much love and God Bless from the UK xx
uk is evil
I guess that we only have to hear about the rapes that the soviets committed and hid all the rapes committed by Germans in Poland, France, the Netherlands and so on.
My daddy was a US Army infantryman in Berlin after the fall. There is a photo of a German soldier and his wife in his memory box. The story he told was that the man wanted to trade his wife to their squad for food and shelter. They refused and took these folks in for the time they were in Berlin. War as been so romanticized in the US after 9/11 and the Bush "War on Terror". My fear is that this sort of thing will soon happen to all of us here in the US. God protect us.
You are so right. America might have to answer for the atrocities of the people before us. There is bad and good in all nations. Evil people will face the consequences of their actions regardless of where your from.
@@mikehiers3332 American youth are already beaten over the head with the Native American genocide enough as it is. What kind of "answer for the atrocities" are you suggesting?
@@greghauser742 I'm speaking of when we stand before God to answer for our sins. Those before us answer for there's but we living have to face the consequences of their actions here on earth.
US is a big contributor for world violence
The US killed one million innocent people in Iraq on a lie of WMD , they killed millions in Vietnam and Afghanistan, not to mention the dozens of other countries they have invaded , so please don’t lecture anyone on humanity , 400,000 Ukrainians lay dead on the battle field to profit the US military industry complex and the world is a very unsafe place because of this provoked war
I am German and I pray for all my anchestors, may their souls find healing, may the collective field find healing.
*I too am German Ich bin ein Dresdener* ❗
Do you visit the concentration camps and hear any screaming or crying. I've heard you can see the scratches on the walls as they were being gassed even in the cement walls. It's unusual to not see and hear the residual sounds of trauma in places like that. Very extreme trauma like that happened there you know.
Prayers from Canada
Do not forget that during the Anglo-Boer war of 1899 - 1902 in South Africa, the British raped the Boer women and young girls in the British concentration camps. About 34,000 women and children died in these concentration camps due to maltreatment. The British burnt all the farms and houses and exterminated the livestock of the Boer farms.
The Allied forces of WWII were just a bunch of rapists.
@@MsOSheDidIt What is your point?
Thank you. This part of the story was huge and its important that it be told and is known. A friend of mine from Latvia lived in a DP camp after the war. She said that the Nazis were horrible but the Russians who came later were much worse.
Do not make excuses
right is right and wrong is wrong
@@vertiegrief6089raping children isn’t it chief.
@@hart63 The nazis were bad and the soviets were bad.
@@j.ceasar the US is bad as well, only country to ever drop a nuke on innocent civillians.
@@53strat55 That's one case of US evilness. One could also make the argument that Japan never would have surrendered if they didn't use nukes.
Oma, I've never heard of these stories and so glade you made it
So now you hate putin me in more!!! Hahaha
@@davido3026I'm a big fan of Putin and Angela Merkel.
@@lordvonmanor6915 A lot of the stories are based on Antikommitern Goebbels propaganda. They used it to motivate the soldiers by sowing fear. They made fake movies, pictures and showed to population.
You would think that over the millennia that man would learn but sadly it’s not the case. History definitely repeats itself over and over. I hate to say this but I would trust more my dog that my fellow man.
not when it comes to stealing food
Human race is the same through millennia!!!
amen
All these stories of atrocities experienced should be and must be told. I recently told my husband that I wanted to have an ‘out’ in case a civil war ever occurred. My daughter is disabled and I grow older. I would never want to have her or myself experience even a single episode of this. 😢
Just so you know if you don't think you have an equal responsibility as the men in your country to stand by in times of tumult, you have no claim to any human rights or freedoms whatsoever, you can have your "out" but you will always know yourself to be an opportunistic coward who never deserved any equality in your conscience - a third class citizen of your own making.
They,are told, quite often. When I was a teenager in the 70s we were told about this. Very sad, war is horrible. Of thr Nazis didn't invade Russia. Communism would have fallen in the early 50s
@@charliemunk2947 Very interesting opinion. Would you mind to disclose, please?
Yes, the Goebbels propaganda machine is in the working again. Now on UA-cam, This man truly is immortal
I was stationed in Germany in the 70s and I talked with people who lived through it. German women told me the Russians were known for it, with the Americans, it was 50/50. But they said that the English did not do it. An English man who fought through France and Germany told that there was no reason for something like that. All one had to do was make friends. His unit would come to an area where the German Army fell back from and evacuated.
They would meet the civilian population and give out gifts, Cans of food, meet, chocolate, wine, cigarettes, whiskey if you had it. The people they gave it to could either use it or barter with it. Many showed the English soldiers their appreciation.
Ha-ha-ha😂
@@DinaGord hahaha what?
The Brits have colonised so many countries and nobody has ever accused them for rapes.
@@alleygh0st The weeks following D Day at least 16000 french women were raped in Normandy. Men are beasts and war is just another excuse to rape.
English man did it also , Canadians as well
Although horrifying as it is, thank you so much for not letting these and other crimes in WWII to be forgotten, a must share.
It’s important to remember the atrocities not just of our enemies but of our allies and of ourselves.
So terrible, this. It’s so hard to handle, it’s just so much.
It is, but bearing witness is something we can do.
This was the education I actually got when I flunked out of college and spent the year just walking through the library and reading. When you read actual accounts of war stories, you would almost think that war is done just so women could be raped. Its said there wasn't a woman between four and eighty four that wasn't raped as the russian army came through. For those wanting to laud america, in 1994 the Japanese government was begging the US army to get out of Japan because they were raping so many girls.
I know veterans who laughed at Saving Private Ryan and then crying when they realized people actually thought that was realistic. You have to SERIOUSLY hunt down war stories, and when you find them, you wish youd never heard them. But you go around youtube and you'll see tons of these stories mostly aimed at other cultures, as if sexual violence never happens amongst europeans and those of european descent.
Don't even imply that the Allied soldiers came anywhere near this type of behavior.
Western culture...the evil patriarchy...holds rape as among the worst offenses. Not all cultures do.
I remember throughout the 1980s press reports of American soldiers raping girls near the US base in Okinawa.
It seemed to take years and years before it was addressed
In ww2 Japanese ate the POW indian soldiers who fought under the British-India contingent. The soldiers were alive when their limbs were cut and eaten. Then they were sent back to barracks so that the meat can remain fresh for next day.
So war is not just for r@pe. Japanese ww2 atrocities are forgotten .
Well they have returned, actually never left, still there, big US Fleet, source your information
I did a paper on this in College fir a sociology class, in your year of reading did you ever come across the Eisenhower quote regarding copulation without consequence? Very dark stuff
It's only a war crime if you lose
I've never been to war, Thank God! The fact is that this happens all too frequently. This happens in all wars, regardless of your nationality. many time our military leaders ignore this because of the enormous stress put on young soldiers fighting a war that someone else started. I am proud of our armed forces and the Men and Woman who serve. Many times, they are put into a position they may did not ask for or understand. But is important to know that war should not be taken lightly and used only when absolutely necessary such as self-defense. To many time the real reasons of war are not disclosed to the citizens of that country. Leaders' egos are never an excuse to go to war.
Amen.
Men may fight and die in wars, but women pay the highest price when their men fail.
It happens in peace time, daily actually everywhere
Americans do not forgive war crimes, we prosecute them in a just way lead by evidence and law. It has never been in doctrine to accept war crimes. No question they happen. If we have evidence, we prosecute. American leadership has never accepted war crimes from its soldiers . Obviously, there are those areas of debate. Water boarding, use of napalm, defoliants, certain types of chem-bio warfare (which we have ended). We discuss these in the open, come to consensus IAW the laws of warfare and end it if necessary. See water boarding. Who in the entire world does this except western democracies. Who does it more consistently than us?
..'enormous stress' is an excuse for enabling sick behavior. NO male is in any way entitled to rape. These were not 'Men'. They were male's.
How can do this knowingly is what difficult to comprehend ..........May "God give compassion n wisdom to such people....
there are answers out there ( not allowed here)
Truly beastly.
These are the people who wield so much power today.
I am not surprised at all at what this animal army did to the German women. The world rarely know that they did the same to the women of my home country, China, which was even not an enemy, but on the contrary was an ally, of them. Animals.
My daughter visited Berlin last year and said she felt very sad - the spirits of the dead are still haunting Berlin.
We felt it too.
I was there!
Nazism everwhere!!!!
so melodramatic! but its time to wake up now
My gypsy grandmother told me a story when i was a little girl.She said when the Russians took over Hungary the gypsy families had to cut very short the little girls,teenager girls hair off and hide them,because of the Russians raped women☹
That’s disturbing but it doesn’t surprise me. Many monsters use war as a cover to do crimes against people because any other time they probably wouldn’t get away with it as easily.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
We should teach this in our history classes. Ware does not bring out the best of anyone.
Sometimes it does.
War can bring the worst of you
Maybe even teach how those same Germans watched millions of men, women and children hauled away to be exterminated like vermin! Then taking everything those people owned and living in their homes, wearing their clothes and jewelry. Nothing compares to what Germans watched happen and enjoyed.
War stems from evil. Follow the money. Satan doesn't care about casualties.
Truly, hell on earth.
These soldiers were cowards. There would have been so much honour in their lives if they acted humanely to those who were suppose to be in their "care." How wretched the rest of their days must have been to have memories of raping and murdering women and their husbands. 💔🤕
Yes, I imagine the German soldiers also were tormented by the horrors they inflicted on the Polish people. Perhaps the Germans regret the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement, the agreement Germany made with the Soviets to jointly invade Poland, divide Poland between them, genocide 85% of the Polish population while keeping 15% to work as slaves. Although, the 15% probably didn't include the thousands of Polish children who were kidnapped, subjected to "Gemanization" programs, and given to German families.
Not true. They effort in destroying Nazism in Europe was forgotten, their image was villified. Europeans hate Russian, and always will, no matter how we behave.
I don't believe they felt any guilt.
Rape is nothing to a slave. The soviets were all slaves.
Also these civilians were NOT supposed to be within "care of Red Army"..State orders and propaganda were quite simple "Увидишь немца убей"-you see German kill him/her..futher it specifies that NO distinction must be made or mercy shown as to elders women children..cause Nazis didn't do it back in USSR now Hour of Retribution and Revenge has struck.." and so on..East Germans yet are still..ALIVE..cause Red Army was humane enough to disobey order and own sense of rightful revenge..
One of the reasons communism should be handled and viewed just like nazism. Both are monstrosities.
Communists did terrible things to Soviet people too and exterminated millions of people in the USSR.
any radical ideology either right-wing or left-wing is extremely dangerous
Not according to the woke
You think only communists soldiers raped women?
Crazy to use this to condemn Russians. The Germans did far worse as they marched East. The Russian POWs and civilians died in their millions. It was inevitable the Russians would seek revenge.
How can people so evil.
I have heard that even today there is a very sad atmosphere in Berlin after the terrible atrocities all those years ago
War. War never changes.
Men never change!!!
@@davido3026It's always about their lust for money, power and control. The minions of Satan himself cloaked in the guise of "protection" or worse yet fighting "in the name of God". Which god..do they worship??
These barbaric acts have gone on throughout all of history. Despite all progress people never change.
yes, they do. It depends on the country they represent.
@@coveyssteve keep living in such delusions.
You mean males never change don't you?
Progress is an illusion.
@@luiz8755 Incorrect. I guess you missed studying the Enlightenment in high school. Admittedly, Palestinians never heard of it either.
Sad and so sorry to hear this story.❤
Sadly it was not just woman in was young girls and boys mainly and woman my dad told me. He was a holocaust survivor
A lot of this would've been driven with the age-old excuse of "They started it and did worse, so they all deserve it." Horrible.
The war drums are always beating in this horrific universe
Yes but only by those who mock God and their time of destruction is over. Remain in faith 💚🙏💌
My Mom, Christian,child when she it was wwII, often told me they had killed people and crucified living babies on a church door near her village, when people were praying at church...Devil is really on earth...Poor Jew people and others who had to live that suffering and pain 😢😢😢😢
I am so sorry.
Still goes on
These videos are really helping my History dissertation!!
unbelievably sad
Sad and heartbreaking
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Two wrongs do not make right! Yes The Germans did horrible things in Russia but this did not justify what the red army did in Germany. Yes the us French uk had rape incidents. Two wrongs do not make right!
French colonial troops...African and Arab...committed large numbers of rapes in the French occupation zone. The Americans were more sophisticated. The for 'non-essential' German civilians, which included most women, were cut to starvation levels. If women wanted more food for themselves or their children they had 'trade' for that food. After the war there were over half a million children born in Germany whose fathers were occupation troops.
Too right it dosnt...case by case should be help accountable.
I remember the French occupation, not nice. The priests and nuns were fat, we were starving.and much more. I wrote it all down for my family, because it will never be in a history book.
Easy for you to say.Your family was not murdered
What horrible things the german did ?
They did the same in Hungary. This is such a trauma for the entire generation. How is it possible that ordinary citizens transform into monsters if they are encouraged to do so by those in power?
Humans are humans no matter the age or culture!
You would be surprised how quickly "normal, law abiding, people" revert to animalistic behavior. Don't fool yourselves. These things have been a part of every war from the beginning of time. Human life means nothing under these circumstances. Soldiers of every nation have degraded the conquered population by looting, rape, and murder. For multiple reasons, authorities turn a blind eye.
Civilian woman & children always pay the price in war
It is documented in Cornelius Ryan's account of the fall of Berlin. Stalin told his commanders to allow the troops free reign to do whatever they wanted to the women regardless of age, etc.
Cornelius Ryan was given complete unrestricted access to the Soviet Records of World War 2, he was permitted to read, copy but not remove the original documents. At the time the Soviet Union was still a dictatorship.
Danke für ihre Eindrücke, es gibt noch wenige Zeitzeugen…
Gott beschütze sie
Do you ever visit the mass graves and worry about hearing people trying to dig out of the pits? I've heard that in places that have seen such horror the residual sounds like that continue. Just asking for research. 🤔
That's the war at its finest. People easily forget and repeat.
Thank you for your courage bless your heart
Looking around today the whole world seems to be going to hell in a handbasket……..so much hatred violence mistrust and greed. Thank God I’m approaching the end of my life…..
My aunts, who lived in NYC, took in a young German woman after WWII - she was really crazy - could talk about nothing except being kept in “jail.”
It also occured to the women in Vienna Austria and other places where the Russians invaded.
Germans and Austrians turned people into animals.
More than 500 000 German women raped by French, English, US armies according to book "When the Soldiers Came" research by a German lady professor
Invaded?
@@05djoleyes?
Invaded ??
Liberated from fascism, you ingnoramus
Is the full interview available ?
Nein
the american allies did it as well, nobody dares to talk about this, 800000 german women were raped after capitulation. Just recently in a convention for human rights the americans voted against that rape should be handeled as a war crime, the germans as well.
*My heartfelt apologies to the German victims done by our GIs and yes if there wasn't there ought to be investigation to hold those accountable. I am sorry to the German ladies and kinders who suffered the crime.*
But I must say the majority of the criminal acts of sexual assault was perpetrated by the Scumbag Brits, French.
So sorry to hear this. Civilians are always the main victims. German soldiers did the same to other nations let's not forget that and all that millions of people who die because Germany started that war.
It is extremely painful just reading the komments hier.
The people of Berlin wanted to leave the city but Grobbels refused before the Russians invaded.
Goebbels asked through Genral Krebs, who negotiated with the Soviets, for a proper handover of the Reich Chancellery when Hitler was dead. To save the many nurses from rape and kidnapping. But Stalin refused, so hundreds of nurses were raped alongside the wounded and deported to Siberia
War is hell.
Excesses are an inevitable byproduct of the human condition.
This is not 'human' at all. It is demonic.
German people have to remember and realize that nowadays similar events are happening in Ukraine. If they don't help, it may happen again in Germany
German soldiers raped women in NATO bombing of serbia and also raped women in afghanistan , you are no better
There are no limits to the horrors of men during war with weapons in their hands..
This should not only be taught in schools, but to new armed forces recruits here in the West. We need to ensure our troops understand the difference between honour and virtue versus hatred and malice. Otherwise things like this will happen again as we come to the rescue of others. Abu Graib is a shameful example.
women must be respected no matter how much anger and hot blood is created in war...but women must be cared ..it is important even in war to not break this moral code..I am sure there were good soldier in ww2 too.. but the ones who are evil have to face there karma
Okay #WhiteKnight. Women are just as disposable in war as men. I don’t agree that either should be, but let’s not act like women had it harder
The victors get impunity the vanquished get lynched .
How about Nemmersdorf?
Thank you for telling us
If you think fascism is bad and it is it is nothing on communism ,and to think it's taught in our schools as better than capitalism
Name just ONE school where it's taught that communism is better than capitalism. Just ONE...
@@godfreydaniel6278 PS 257, Bayridge NY
I'm assuming you have documentation for your claim - right?@@RaptorFromWeegee
@@godfreydaniel6278Documentation?!? I was 10! The burden of proof isn't on me. You're grasping at straws.
@@godfreydaniel6278 and you're one of them.
The lesson I get is that peope have to prevent their nation from becoming idolaters of a leader.
Some people are monsters that use war as a cover to get away with terrible things.
Kudos to the Shoah Foundation for examining this seldom publicized horror of Stalin;s troops
The allies also did these things to the German women. CBC did a documentary about the atrocities committed by Canadian soldiers during the Second World War .
I'm so sorry for all of the women. No words. 😢😢
I believe this happened to my colleague's grandmother.
The Russians were always the lowest of the low, but bear in mind who started all this 😢.
Just because the nazis and Hitler started the war, didn’t mean those troops had the right to do those things. I sympathize with neither who did those things.
The Russians were not the only guilty ones. In all fairness, Allied atrocities must be shown and punished as well.
Doesn’t just happen in war… 😞
Wars are Hell on Earth... Do not forget ...
The hatred toward mankind by evil.this is the reason we have to pray. Do not let history repeat itself. Stand up for freedom but only God can give us the real freedom.
The same thing russians did for us in Ukraine since the war began in 2022 and I heard they did this in 2014 too when they took part of Donetsk, I live like 200 km from it, so I know people from this city. My grandfather born 1910 fought Germans on Ukrainian front and Georgian front, he told that those stories were a normal for the both sides of doing it with women, it was a rare occasion, but it did happen, and he said that not every Soviet man who did it came home alive, I guess that some of the occasions that my granddad witnessed were met with a kill, also, some of this soldiers who did it went home and did it again to their own people, the same as it happening right now in russia as I read russian news. I bet the same things German soldiers did to their own people when they went home too.
Soviet army was 20% Ukrainian.
Thank you for sharing your story. This was not right.